Yesterday I finished reading Jojo part 1 for the first time. It was good, I loved every character, especially side characters like Zeppeli and Speedwagon. But I hated how the power system works. I like the restrictions Hamon has, but Jonathan just pulled moves out of his ass over and over. How the hell did he learn Overdrives? And why the fuck didn't he use Scarlet Overdrive against Dio? It is literally fire hamon and one of Dio's weakness is fire. It was the best way to fight his freezing ability. I mean wtf dude
Yesterday I finished reading Jojo part 1 for the first time. It was good, I loved every character...
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The power system gets better with Stands
>but Jonathan just pulled moves out of his ass over and over
>I mean wtf dude
Buddy you have no idea what's to come
I went wtf when Jojo didn't use fire hamon against Dio. The bad writting putted me off.
Are you trying to say it gets worse?
In part 3 hamon is gone and is replaced by stands. Stands are phisical manifestations of their user's fighting spirit that only stand users can see, each with their own unique abilities. At first, these abilities are fairly simple like punching things really fast or pyrokinesis, but they slowly get more and more complex and bizarre (part 6 is peak bizarre, although parts 4 and 8 have some very weird stands as well) and sometimes the author may slightly change how these stands work and what abilities they have to fit the story better (Giorno's Gold Experience suffers from this the most). Of course, it has been stated that stands develop and change over time, but that still doesn't excuse the fact that certain abilities are simply forgotten after a few chapters.
So yeah, you have no idea how much bullshit is to come. Still, asspulls aside, part 1 is the weakest part and if you loved that you're gonna love the rest of the series as well.
>O MY FLAMING FIST
>O MY HAMON ERUPTION
>O MY SAME TYPE OF STAND
>O MY PARKING BRAKES
>O MY REQUIEM ARROW
>O MY STAND DISC
>O MY INFINITE ROTATION
>O MY ROKAKAKA FRUIT
lol
What is the best ability system?
Stands or devil fruits?
Can someone please post the edit where Diavolo has cum on this hands?
>Anime/Mango
>No ass pulls
Choose one. You especially don't read/watch Jojo for the logic. The bizarre ass pulls like growing grass to make a frozen grass surfboard is what makes Jojo special.
Yeah now explain the scarlet overdrive bullshit
He pulls moves out of his ass since Part 1 and 2 are basically HnK fanfiction. I prefer him just creating moves on the spot opposed to obnoxious training arcs. Ripple is only around for a little bit and stands are infinitely superior anyway
I just fucking explained that jojo isn't supposed to be explainable or always make sense. Do not read/watch it for logic. It's a BIZZARE adventure. It's supposed to be fun.
We got an anime and mango for part 5 and we still don't know exactly how King Crimson works. If theses things bother you, don't read/watch it.
>implying King Crimson is hard to understand now that we have good translations for part 5 and an anime adaptation
Jonathan uses yellow overdrive since sunlight is more powerful against vampires than the scarlet overdrive. When he gets rid of the hair using scarlet overdrive it only burns the hair and is contained, so we can assume it's a pretty weak ability as far as capturing flames is concerned. Jonathan uses fire anyway through lighting his gloves. You can chalk it up to Araki forgot, or him wanting to do something different with the narrative. Or just two different ways to show than Jonathan is resourceful .
Part 6 makes sense if you consider pseudo science is reality in the Jojo universe.
The problem with king crimson is in the details smartass. Everyone gets the gist of it, it's the little details that are unclear and up for debate.
Ok then. How does king crimson work?
Putting his fist on fire was cooler
Yeah he could use it against Dio. Even if it is a "weak" ability, he ended up fighting Dio with a sword that he warmed in a candle. I bet the autor just forgot Jojo had that ability.
He skips time 10 seconds idiot. Wtf is so fucking hard? Fucking brainlets.
With Epitaph he also sees the future.
>"Why yes, Jonathan Joestar is my favorite JoJo of them all, how did you guess?"
Ok so he uses epitaph to see the future, then skips foward 10 seconds.
How does he do shit in that 10 seconds if he skips it? How can he change shit thats going to happen if he's already predicted it????
That's his power. He is free to move in that "skipped time". For others characters it's as if time was skipped.
And because he sees what's going to happen he can change it. Or rather he sees it changed already. Most of the time he just kills people so that's what he sees.
I still don't get it
Well uuh you are a brainlet
Diavolo uses Epitaph to see what happens in the future (for example what Bruno does and what he would do if he wasn't looking into the future during the fight) for 10 seconds, then as those 10 seconds are happening in real time he can move around freely and change what he did but his opponent can't. As a plus only he remembers what happens in that time frame while no one else can.
I'm just posting to say that anyone who calls it 'jojo's' instead of just 'jojo' is a faggot and should cease to exist.
jojo bizarre adventure
If you hated the asspulls you're gonna love part 2
Can't believe anyone could complain about asspulls in later parts when Part 2 starts off with 'OH BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY A MIRROR YOU SHOT AT'.
Yes it was a mirror.
>OH BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY A MIRROR YOU SHOT AT
And?
Stands help introduce a puzzle like feeling to the fights but the best part are how the fights are solved. That is where araki's creativity shines. There are moments where it ends suddenly or the fights are bland with stands but it is a lot better than Hamon fights
yeah if your thing is consistency and adherence to an internal rule-set, you probably won't like jojo. the whole point of this series is giving you big emotional/"cool" moments. it all lives in the gravity of individual fights and character traits, and araki is notably a guy who will throw worldbuilding and rules out if he has an idea for a cool moment. i wouldn't have it any other way either, this is fiction. autistic adherence to rules can exist in some other show
Nothing about it makes sense retarded BTFaggot
See
Not an argument. Mirror scene makes no sense and is shit writing
Straizo is unironically stupid so him shooting a mirror instead like an idiot makes sense
>look at me mom! I posted the funny feels man making a funny face!
Wow lewd
FOO FIGHTERS DESERVED BETTER SHIKISHOOOOOOOOOOO
>I can't understand how a stand power works after it's been explained to me, DURRRRRR
I wasn't the guy you were replying to, but believe whatever you want.
thanks
The writing gets better and Stands >>> Hamon
Araki forgot, also if you hate how the "power system" works in part 1 don't continue past part 2 because you'll really get a tism there.
>He is free to move in that "skipped time".
So it's just a more nonsensical and retarded The World.
And I fucking loved it and it's why I read this
I stopped reading before the 3rd generation ended and I've never watched a single episode of the anime.
>part 1 is the weakest part
brainlet zoomer
based
casual spotted
I don't blame you, part 3 drags on longer than any other part
This
Once you finish part 2 drop the manga for good.
You aren't going to like the changes.
Why
Different powers system.
"Monster of the week" structure.
>"Monster of the week" structure
Oh shit.
That's what everyone failed to tell you. From this moment onwards there is little plot, just one fight against the Stand user of the week after the next.
95% of the people that went blind into Jojo and liked parts 1 and 2 drop it in disgust after. That's why my advise is just read until the end of part 2 and move away; it's long enough to count as a single finished series.
Is that why the series didnt become popular untill part 3?
Jojo has never been popular; that's why you only hear about it now when it started publishing in 1987, and only got a TV series in 2012.
Jojo is like one of those newspapers comics that no one gives a shit about but stay published due to habit and being harmless.
>JoJo has never been popular
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It’s disgusting to see manimesubhumans manipulate new Jojo fans into thinking that the series gets worse as it goes along when it actually gets better.
WRYYYYYYYYYYYY internet memes =/= popularity.
Being one of the best selling manga with over 100 million units sold, being referenced and homaged in other series for years, and impressive enough to be featured in the Louvre. Jojo is a huge series that only recently became big in the west, for a long time duwang translations were the only way to read p4. You perception of something doesnt change reality.
Stands aren't a power system retard
>Jojo has never been popular
And thats why it got a movie in 2007.
quick give me your top 3 jojo youtubers
How does it get better?
in every way
but how? It has established rules and there are like 3 types of stands used mostly consistently unless you're Made in Heaven or Golden Experience.
It doesn't. Don't let them trick you. That's why they resorted to personal attacks (except for and still he isn't refuting my argument).
They try killing DIO with fire in Part 3 but DIO's charisma is so good it fucks up Avdol's intent.
Better art, better designs, more creative, better power system, better writing, better characters, better story, and better action.
Xforts is the best.
Nen obviously if you're not a retard and are a HunterChad instead
What's the best fight in jojo and why is it giorno and mista vs ghiaccio?
The argument that it is not popular? Why, its sold in the top 15 manga ever, it got and OVA of part 3 in 1993, it got games, merch, spinoffs and novels. You said it was a "safe" manga when it broke most conventions (foreign protag, killing main characters, ending the parts, stands, and not to mention the unique artstyle. It was rarely translated into animation because it was considered impossible to faithfully translate the weird movements, sound cues, super complex character designs and panel detail
that is a term that doesn't exist, infact I don't think I can name any good anime youtubers except Demo
Part 6 Fastening, Gyro vs Ringo, Gyro and Johnny vs Tattoo You!, El Presidente vs Gyro and Johnny, or Kira and Jousefumi vs Illegal Plant Dealers; take your pick
Yes, JoJo starts running on bullshit more and more as the series progresses. Part 1 doesn't have shit on the kind of ridiculous shit that happens on later parts.
tfw even giga chad is balding :(
jojo is singular
jojo's is plural
how many jojo's are there user?
Caesar vs Whammu
stop
oho
looks like shit
>pretending this hard to feel unique
what does an attractive woman look like to you then? Loli need not apply because that's a fucking child, you nigger
this is the good shit im talking about
Please for the love of god give me one with Trish
I'd you don't like asspulls you shouldn't read jojo. The asspulls are what make the fights entertaining
not that I know of, I just discovered the artist not too long ago
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WANT TO FILL TRISH WITH LIGHT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FUCK YOU
Nah, fuck you Hamonman
Hot as shit but the proportions on that right boob are really bothering me.
I'm at part 4, but so far:
>Jonathan is best man
>Joseph is best Jojo
>Jotaro is best hack
>Josuke is best boi
I'll be one to admit there's a lot of asspulls in jojo that are hard to believe (especially in part 5) but the mirror trick is actually one of the more believable ones.
Every "continuity error" in Jojo isn't actually an error at all and can be easily explained. Change my mind.
keep goin lad, I would wait until at least part 6 to make your judgement
The mirror trick, like most of Joseph's shenanigans, is both clever and stupid at the same time. On one hand, it's a really fucking cool way of using the fact that vampires can't see their own reflections in a combat situation. On the other, there's no way Straizo would be spatially unaware enough to ever fall for that bullshit.
whammu (2)
Vidya darby (3)
ratt , cheap trick(4)
crimson vs metallica, bruno vs king crimson (5)
Made in heaven (6)
sugar mountain, d4c(7)
>What's the best fight in jojo and why is it giorno and mista vs ghiaccio?
That's not Jolyne vs Westwood
that fight was nice
Man that was one of the most testosterone-filled fights in the series, my dick grew 5 inches after that fight
All of them from what i have seen are dumv speed readers that should AT FUCKING LEAST re read the part before talking. I THINK one of them ist to bad and is nice for background sound I guess.
My dick grows 5 inches everytime I see Joylene
I forgot haha
I'm a skipfag
Anasui