Now and Then, Here and There

How many other isekai are there we the protagonist gets transported into an apocalyptic hellhole in the future while half of his harem gets raped?

>110% immune to discouragement
Oh you're in for a treat.

>series literally ends with a speech where the protag says it doesn't matter how bad things are if you're alive you'll find something that makes it worthwhile
ok

lol

Why is there constantly a thread for this where its just the same guy saying "Yknow guys this show KINDA SUCKS"

I love it, but only because I love watching people suffer. Also Lalaru is really cute and sad looking

It really clicked with me, but the ending is pretty shit so if you don't like it now you should probably drop it.

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>MC is insanely lucky
Funny I remember him getting beaten the fuck up

In a world whose logic would normally have him killed, yeah, he gets beat up. Then magically dodges some bullets, gets beat up some more, and repeat until you get to the climax.

Do not SHOOT the LOLI

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There's a difference in the protagonist being immune to discouragement and them, despite all the shit they go through, believing in something he believed before but was now tested. There's not too many modern works that put the protagonist through a trial by fire that actually conflicts with their beliefs like this does.

I’ve only seen the first episode but it devoted ten whole non-interrupted minutes to the MC sitting on top of the smokestack and awkwardly sputtering out a one-sided conversation. It’s the kind of chatacterization providing scene you’d expect to see in arthouse. I just can’t imagine anyone calling that generic unless they’re trying to be contrarian.

There's absolutely nothing remarkable about an oblivious MC forcing himself into a conversation with disinterested people. That's basically half of all shounen MCs. Does taking a giant cliche and stretching it out for 10 minutes in a way that is totally nonsensical equal art? I would say no.

Why is it nonsensical?

>having a conversation with someone who can't hear you except for when you shout for 10 minutes
>spend most of that time not shouting and basically talking to yourself
What you've mistaken here for art is just a writer's convenience for easy narrative devices. Sort of how Hamdo explains the entire setting, it's history, and plot motives while he beats up Shu.

Sure looked pretty though

What’s the narrative device besides informing us about how the character functions? What makes it a convenience and not real characterization, if said characterization is how the character normally acts?

the fact the way the character normally acts is highly unrealistic

How so?

>highly unrealistic
Not really, I talk to myself and explain my situation/background all the time. Doing that for 10 minutes is not a stretch at all.

I'd say anyone who talks to themselves for 10 minutes is something like mentally ill.

Shut up, I'm not mentally ill I just have no one else to talk to.

I really hope you’re trying to appear dense on purpose, though I don’t know what your goal is. By the time we get to the scene of him talking to Lalaru it’s been established that he’s carefree, clumsy, lacks a good degree of self-awareness, a little arrogant, and, importantly, desperate to impress others. Add this to the fact that he’s a teenage boy and Lalaru has caught his attention for various reasons, one of which it’s not impossible to assume being attraction, and you get the scene in which he tries to do exactly that: impress her. His lack of self-awareness (being unable to “read the air” as the phrase goes in Japanese) combined with his attraction to her and strong desire to leave an impression prevents him from realizing she is barely listening. Now, can you explain why it’s nonsensical and a convenience please?

It's unreasonable to ask the audience to consider someone so offensively stupid to be normal, as I said.

Are you talking to me, or...

Right. I shouldn’t have bothered I guess.

it also has rape.

Stop responding to me.
Leave me alone.

Don't expect a good level of discourse or analysis on modern Yea Forums, it's really unfortunate we are here but it's the truth.

I'm sorry user, I didn't mean to be mean. I just couldn't not take that low hanging fruit. But anyway, point was that I personally think it strains credulity for someone to be that lacking self-awareness, you at least know you talk to yourself.
I don't see what's so unreasonable about suggesting it's unreasonable to think anyone would really unknowingly talk to themselves for 10 minutes like that. I know it's setup, that it's suggested by his characterization up to that point, it's still not convincing. People do not act like that, so I say the character is unrealistic, he's a giant trope of the naive manliness Japs love to characterize their young adult characters with.

Great. Just great. Another thread where you ingrates pick on the mentally handicapped.
Bravo, Yea Forums.

Based retard

Based on what?

It was a solid show until they completely abandoned the development of secondary characters for the sake of MC and Lala Ru, some stuff has been introduced too late and the finale is a bit underwhelming. This needed at least 24 episodes.

I liked the psycho guy with the cat and the blonde girl, though i didn't like that she got raped. alot

Well there’s no convincing you. I still think, speaking for the direction, that even if you couldn’t acknowledge the character the inclusion of the scene itself is still an idiosyncratic choice that defies what you might expect from this kind of premise.

so how far into the future was this story meant to be?

Didn't it say that at the beginning of every episode?

Something i hate is that the show didn't answer to this and other questions so, who knows.

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I think this is referred to Lala Ru though.

shut up

I mean, ten billion is about 5 billion AFTER the sun goes red giant, did they fuck that up or something?

also sara had the darkest arc

The scene where Sara gets almost raped and then kills the dude was so well directed it's probably my favorite scene of the entire anime.

Which is vastly different from being the god of everything from the get go.

yeah, but her arc is so underplayed...

Don't worry, it's going to get much better when blondie is introduced.

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>thoroughly generic and mediocre
To think I share a board with retards and tastelets.

It gets sad as fuck. Rape, child soldiers, mothers dying, kids shooting each other. I cried a little when Sis died.

Straight out of any hentai, they just had to take the ugliest, fattest guy they could find

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I hated this dude almost more than Hamdo

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The ten billion is a reference to the Earth's age at that point, and considering the Earth is currently 5 billion years old, you could deduce what that means and its relation to Lala Ru.

Hamdo was just crazy, but this guy lost everything to Hambos warmongering and his fall from grace came swift as fuck when he thought he was finally going to get his revenge.
Its been awhile since ive watched though, but Hambo was an easy guy to hate when he would beat and rape Lala Ru and beat up his first mate Abegail even though she tried so hard.

>even though she tried so hard
How far did she get?

It doesn't even matter

I agree, the ending was shit. After everything stickboi just teleports home and picks up where he left off like nothing happen. Pretty gay considering the horrors he was just apart of, the people who came to depend in him, all those kids he saved, being tortured, everything, just walks it off and goes home.

Unless I'm misremembering Shu not even once expressed his desire to go home nor thought fondly about his family/friends/the girl he liked.

NaTHaT is the PMMM of Isekai, only moderately more graphic and with spectacularly less cultural impact or staying-power.

I remember reading one fantheory somewhere that claimed that La-La Ru was actually the Aztec god of rain in disguise and the whole series was an elaborate plot so she could destroy Hambo’s base and all the kids inside to restore her powers and make humans bring back human sacrifice.
A bit contrived, but if they had actually done that, the series would have been about ten times better.

>ancient evil water loli opposes nu charlemagne
So crazy it might just work

All hail King Hamdo!

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he cute

Why was Abelia so devoted to this autist cat murderer?

what part of it is generic?

>he gets his ass kicked when he should get killed I say that's lucky

great now I feel bad

She didn't want to get purged, there was nowhere to run to, and she didn't have the personal authority to usurp his position.

I felt she was desperate to cling to his authority to justify what shes done, she couldnt go back from who she was and what she was doing.

>caring about personal authority when you are the only commander in a flying battleship of improvised child soldiers and your boss is a retarded manchild
>implying she couldn't kill Hamdo and pretend a soldier or a fugitive did it and then take over

But I guess this and this make more sense than all the theories I've seen about how she using to be in love with him when he was sane.

If she played her cards wrong she'd end up a breeding sow. There are no women besides her in any major role because the rest end up like Sara. So instead she clung onto the one thing that held absolute power and used her wits to come out as the second in command.

And what do you suggest? Showing the PTSD?

No, but he could have stayed and played adam and eve with his used goods gf after lala ru bible flooded the world likely genociding most of the remaining people.
Instead he left her to single mom the villages mulatto rape babies who will inherit the earth.

>Instead he left her to single mom
It was her choice. She should've gone back to earth.

I wonder how a sequel would turn out. Maybe he returned to the silos to reminisce and the broken down hellywood machine had a collapsed arch that reactivates the time warp and he returns to find some maniac trying to revive Hamdos legacy.

It was retarded. She took Sis' final speech a little too seriously, I mean keeping the baby is one thing, but deciding to not return to her timeline was against logic. Was she afraid her parents would have kicked her out if they found out she was pregnant?

Going forward where everyone is similarly broken is better than going back to a place where she'd be alone, disowned and considered insane.

>mommy, daddy, I was used as wartime breeding sow in the distant future to build an army for a mad king
>thats okay honey well keep the baby
Yeah I can see it

That's not necessarily true, and we have no idea how Sara would be treated by her family and friends if she went back. A girl born and raised in the 20th century now has to start from zero and adapt to a new wild environment, being reminded of the terrible things she had experienced. She's a child herself with the responsibility of raising her own baby and the orphans. You have to have an exceptional mental strength to do this. I could have even accepted this if she had gotten a better development arc but it was so rushed in the last couple episodes.

I watched like four or five episodes, wasn't for me. Wouldn't call it a generic isekai in the sense of the recent trend, but it felt like they were trying to handle serious dark content using the writing style of a kids' series [in terms of like how characterization and relations and storyflow were handled and so on], and for me that just just wasn't forming a strong enough base for me to get emotionally invested.

I wanted Big Sis to fucking die so bad, what a cunt

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Sara had gotten the resolve at the end to make her decision to stay and to care for the children. And she is not alone, there are others that will help her with it. She has a community of people to collectively grieve and move forward with and that's why she makes her decision. Her old life is dead, she abandoned it the moment she escaped into the desert. Her new life began with Sis taking her in. Her resolve was from everything she went through up to Sis' death. She could have mourned Sis and stayed in that cell to die, but she instead took action to save the kids and herself, which is a pretty big deal after attempting suicide not too long ago. She's strong.

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