He was capable of beating Itachi and Kisame at the same time

Okita

did he get it from shisui?

They did not want to fuck with him on
top of Guy would have shown up soon. We all know Guy is a walking nuke.

Itachi waxes Jirayia. Kisame would be an interesting battle.

Itachi didnt want Kisame to draw attention to their mission as fighting Jirayia has multiple problems Itachi wanted to avoid, each can fight a different situation

>Situation 1
Fighting Jirayia would cause a scene, and would likely bring about other high ranking Ninja to the area and Itachi/Kisame would liking wanna avoid fighting a combination of Kakashi, Might Guy, Danzo, Shikaku, etc
>Situation 2
Itachi doesnt wish to attack the leaf, as it would go against his actual mission of protecting the village as a double agent. Sure, he genjutsu'd Kakashi, but they spared him and didnt fuck up Kurenai and Asuma when given the chance.

itachi could have murdered jiraiya, kakashi, kurenai, asuma, etc.

but he didn't want to fuck konoha forces, jiraiya is an easy target for amaterasu

Bad writing curse.

why did kishi even give him in illness in the first place?

Born Uchiha

Fuck off with your spamming, Narutard

>Itachi waxes Jirayia
Nah. SM Jiraiya literally rapes everything Itachi has.

>anyone beating solo king itachi
Be realistic.

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Kishimoto would never draw his husbando getting beaten in a 1v1 fight. But realistically, SM Jiraiya counters Susano's shield, regular Genjutsu (frogs inject him with chakra), has enough speed and summons to avoid Amaterasu and one random hit (not even a Rasengan) would be enough to break Itachi's bones.

aids

>Itachi fucking solo's Edo full power Nagato
>somehow will lose to Jiraiya who got his shit kicked in by Six Paths
>in addition to Kisame on Itachi's side

lol

I dropped Naburo after the Pain arc, is the remaining shit worth finishing? Everyone was saying it jumped the shark, and the zombie war thing does indeed sound retarded.

Six Paths wouldn't get totsuka'd.

>thinks this is DBZ a>b>c powerlevels

You realize that entire fight was an act, right? Itachi was working with Jiraya at the time.

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3rd hokage was the only one aware

>Actingly uses Tsukuyomi on Kakashi

He was only using it on him to make him seem like the bitch he is

Danzo and the 3rds councilors were as well. Jiraya was the primary source of info on Akatsuki, so it's almost a sure thing he was in the know as well.

He was probably showing Kakashi how to use it. Didn't Kakashi say he picked up the trick from his experience with Itachi?

He used it because Itachi is gay and has a torture fetish

using susanoo too much without EMS, it melts you. Look at the sasuke chapters when he uses it before he gets EMS and he describes the effects pretty vividly and it lines up with what happens to Itachi, he just doesent call it an illness.

nobody calls it an illness except you retarded redditfags.
Sasuke found out using the Susanoo strains the body a fucking lot, people with mangekyo sharingan are supposed to die.
Obito had magic evangelion cells so he could spam it, but it wasn't the case for Itachi who used tsukuyomi, amaterasu and susanoo

based, non believers btfo

>. Didn't Kakashi say he picked up the trick from his experience with Itachi?
yes, when they go to save Gaara from the akatsuki

No, retard. Mangekyou Sharingan users go blind, they don't die. Separately from his blindness he was also suffering some kind of unexplained illness.

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Wasn't his "illness" just the gay anime trope of his inner torment wracking his body?

I honestly bet Itachi could take Jiraiya but because he was a double agent he pretended he couldn't

it's a prank to make Itachi more of a trope, Kishimoto envisioned this shitposts and threads
then it was probably TB, but I still think is just the Susanoo usage after wasting so much chakra, Sasuke said he felt pain when using it.I think it's more of a bad translation like says
naruto website

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Normal MS shit makes you go blind, Susanoo doesent use the eyes, it melts every cell in your body. Sasuke even mentions 'is this what Itachi was going through?'

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His son or himself literally gave Konohamaru third degree burns.

I don't like that image

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Does naruto have the most retarded case of powerscaling spiralling out of control of any shonen manga?

He also used it on Sasuke, who very well could have ended up in a permanent coma if the world's best healer didn't have a change of heart and go back to the village. Literally the only reason Sasuke is still around walking is that Naruto mastered the Rasengan just in time to save Tsunade.

From the very first page you have a demon fox that flattens mountains with a swing of its tail, the powerscaling really was not that bad.

m8 it's litterally so bad that half the stated information early on in the series is straight up retconned and invalidated due to needing to scale up said chareacters abilities

look at the very subject this thread is on

>Itachi 10s after meeting Jiraiya: can't keep up sharingan anymore, running away from giant frog belly
>Jiraiya 10s after meeting Itachi and Kisame: damn they ran

Foolish Madara.

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He couldn't beat ninja aids, how can he beat Madara "cutest sage" Uchiha?

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So Sasuke could have a chance to beat him

How do you beat up disease?

Smack it to the ground and choke it until it stops moving

But there's nothing to grab on

You need to use the rinnegan to see it!

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By standing behind him.

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When has that ever worked?

Both times Madara was killed.

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That's right, Madara. You think you've cast the infinite tsukuyomi? You are already within my genjutsu.

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But you're in MY genjutsu! The Infinite Tsukuyomi is an Uchiha jutsu!

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Story rectifying aside, Itachi used Tsukuyomi twice before fighting him, and he and Kisame got the drop on with that summon, being inside of it and needing Amaterasu to break out. Assuming he improved with the mangekyo to pad out his part 2 absurdity, and the whole not being able to summon a spirit mech back home for practice thing, knowing that help was going to be on the way, and it's fair to say Itachi and Kisame may have not been kidding.

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Lmao Kabuto got fucked by that izanami.

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lol no, thanks to that izami, he got away with everything plus now he controls an army of sharingan users and edo tensei summons, right now kabuto is the strongest force in the world

From what we've seen his weak ass couldn't handle either of them solo.
Itachi basically saved his ass by fleeing.
Jiraiya was a dissapointment.

Kabuto is the worst war criminal in history.
He's back at the orphanage now, right? Did he reunite with his foster brother?

I haven’t finished Shippuden yet. I’m at the part where Madara ripped Kurama from Naruto in the war arc.

naruto ended 10 years ago guys

You're looking too much into it. I'm a god. How can you kill a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence.
I wish my life also ended 10 years ago.

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Then you will see this beautiful man soon. Remember me when you do.

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Do not mock the Uchiha. I spent an hour on that.

...Then I accidentally posted the wrong one by mistake and had to correct it.

Nah shark aids

yes, he got away with everything, but to be fair he's another victim from danzo, pretty much everything bad in the series can be traced back to that fucker.
all the bad things in the series are tobirama and hiruzen fault, because tobirama made him kage and then hiruzen was a weak fuck

I appreciate your efforts! Though the only Uchihas I like are Madara and Obito, Itachi's izanami is very intriguing.

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>shark aids
It's much worse than that.

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Nothing beats Dragon Ball when it comes to power scaling.

>kisame can solo a bijuu
you mean, he can suck dry a bijuu with samehada boost. without energy sucking, he's not that almighty

I guess on paper DB does have worse scaling, but I feel like in the context of the manga itself DB's scaling feels less out of place?

He was about to beat Killer B even though Samehada betrayed him and gave his chakra to B. He just couldn't beat the A/B tagteam (and that was a Kisame clone, no less).
Against 7 gates Guy he was again without Samehada and only lost because he thought Afternoon Tiger was ninjutsu he could absorb. If he knew it was taijutsu he would've dodged. But despite getting hit full force by it, he still had enough strength to resist genjutsu interrogation, escape, and complete his mission.
To say he can "solo a bijuu" is a disservice, he's actually much stronger than that, Samehada or no Samehada.

this, also auto-mode Nagato is a magnitude weaker than a fully conscious, determined Nagato

Kabuto sucked hard at controling edo Nagato, he didn't even know Nagato was the one who sensed his chakra hundreds miles away behind the barrier.

I don't remember the fight all that well, but I think Killer B had never a chance to show his full power - first the sucking, than the water prison stuff. Basically, if there was no energy sucking to begin with, Killer B might have won. Again, I don't remember the fight that vividly.

He was playing with fire the whole time, he didn't know shit about edo tensei.
>madara releases it from his end

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>if kisame didnt have won killer b could have won
kisame is way stronger than him

Not without draining a good portion of B's chakra he isn't.

Schizophrenia

Jiraiya would one shot his ass. The only reason he got killed by Pain was because of a cheap shot when he thought they were dead

just a prank bro

izanami and izanagi are such retarded eye hax

but he is, even without samheda, he still has god tier chakra levelsp, he probably has the biggest reserves of any character besides hax people like the senju

I think I already did in my dream. I’m the Konan poster if you’re the same guy who is in the usual threads.

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Oh, hello. Of course it is me. How was your Konan dream? Did you hug her?

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Unironically had a dream about stealing food with Nagato, Konan, and Yakiko and I haven’t watched that part in like a month. Life is weird lmao

Friendly reminder for the retards in this thread:
Pain admitted of having no chance against Jiraiya, if the latter knew his secret from the beggining. Continue.

Sure is! You're welcome

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Lucky. My dreams are always shit or nonexistent.

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The show went to shit with the sasuke retrieval arc, so if you found it tolerable up to the pain arc you may as well keep going.
But yeah, the remaining part is arguably even worse. If you got a boner for uchiha you may keep pushing and find something to enjoy, but I would not really recommend it.

I normally don’t have lucid dreams as well. Just finished my 12 hour shift at my job and it’s 7:30am so I’m going to be going to bed soon hopefully I have a dream similar but I very rarely do.

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why did kishi gave the uchihas so much more hax than other clans?

Uzumaki and Senju were op aswell. The uchiha just had a few that were really distinguished. A lot of the uchiha were jobbers who got rekt as it showed in the flashbacks.

Good night, Konanfriend. Leave the window open so that the moon can peek in and bring you a good dream

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How can you not get a boner when both Obito and Madara are shirtless at the height of the war?

Yes. Only Uchiha dick slurpers will say different. Jiraya was retardedly powerful and needed an absolute cheapshot from a literally divinely powerful villain to be put down.

The cheapshot was cutting his arm and even then Jiraiya killed another path, could run away but went for a suicide plan to fulfill a prophecy, while being not in Sage mode anymore

The fuck are you smoking?

the sky over here is usually cloudy because of snow, so i never get to see the moon

I saw a madara plushie at the store today and it made me think of you, moonposter.

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Hahahahahaha

I hope you’re baiting

Nah it’s just causes strain. It never kills you

Yes. Zabuza was suppose to be one of the most dangerous criminals in the world yet quickly became to look like a massively underpowerd shitter.

Kakashi is a great example of a character they constantly had to give powerups so he stayed one of the top dogs. When you consider that most of the Akatsuki could level a city, you begin to wonder what made Kakashi one of the best in the world at the beginning of the manga. His copying ability quickly became irrelevant.

b8

Sasuke was just edgy AF.

Definitely hxh. Even if it looks well planned. Togashi is inferior to kubo' kishimoto and Goda

Jigen would solo Jiraya, Kakashi, Kisame, and Madara.

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I want to eye rape the Uchiha's

Why wasn't Kisame detected by the village barrier

AAAAAAAAH. OH YEAAAAH OH YEAAAAAH OH YEAAHAAHHH. ITS COMMING OUT . OHWWOOO. AHWOOOO. YEAH .YEAAHHHH.YEAAHHHHH. YEAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

He looks like a total faggot though

Because that isn't his real form.

>Itachi fucking solo's Edo full power Nagato
Am I being baited? Nagato couldn't move. Needed the combined strongest attacks of Naruto, Bee and Itachi to break Chibaku Tensei. And only then needed a surprise attack from the dust cloud to hit Nagato who couldn't move.

how the fuck do eyeballs work in Naruto
people just pop them out and replace them no problem. Is medical ninjutsu that advanced? In that case, there should be literally no blind people or people with glasses in the Naruto universe since you can change your eyeballs like changing a flat tire

Aw, I'd love to have a Madara plushie to hug. Never saw one in the wild. The last time I've seen Naruto shit in stores was maybe about 10 years ago, during the craze

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cope, it's the only source of info on Itachi's "illness" aside from Obito's jerking of Itachi

No.
>genjutsu? Permanent chakra disruption/enhanced perception so you don't need to look in the eyes of your opponent.
>Tsukuyomi? Frog song is a sound genjutsu, aka stronger than regular ones since it also paralyzes the body
>Susano? Yomi Numa, like how Gaara hit Madara, or frog song
>Amaterasu? SM is super fast, maybe not Raikage fast but among the fastest characters (as shown by both Jiraiya and Naruto). Plus summons to block it. And Jiraiya knows how to seal it, and his summons could probably seal it for him if he needed to.

>literally everything else Itachi has gets trampled by regular SM attacks (taijutsu or ninjutsu)

Basically, Itachi's only shot at this is Jiraiya being careless and getting caught by an MS jutsu. Meanwhile, Jiraiya wins if he lands a single regular attack on Itachi, and he has crazy AOE attacks.

can someone link me this epic battle between Itachi and Foddara

Itachi absorbs the Juubi

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Sakura?

Nope
Dragon Ball is worse
I'd even say YuYu is worse

Hate these new designs. Looks like edgy Bleach shit.

>Permanent chakra disruption/enhanced perception
you have to stand to use sage mode, implying you even get to it then Itachi would have had enough time to form a Susanoo
>>Tsukuyomi? Frog sound genjutsu djduurh
not an argument schizo, tsukuyomi is faster
>>Susano? Yomi Numa, like how Gaara hit Madara, or frog song
Gaara attack only worked because sand was already in Madara's feet
>>Amaterasu
again, you're implying jiraiya can easily go into sage mode before he gets hit by any of Itachi attacks, he would get hurt before sealing the amaterasu away even if the paper doesn't get burned.
If Jiraiya goes into sage mode it would be fair, it would be a question of weather the frogs help him with genjutsu but still Itachi has the hax shield of the susanoo so the genjutsu would only be a distraction.
Jiraiya could beat Itachi, arguably, but that's just a possibility. Saying it just rekts anything Itachi has is retarded, Susanoo or amaterasu fucks the frog summons and Jiraiya has nothing against the tsukuyomi.
If anything I think Itachi would be very tired after fighting Jiraiya but I doubt Jiraiya alone could beat him.
Itachi is the solo king

Yes

>you have to stand to use sage mode
The frogs are always standing and injecting nature energy inside of the user. Aka permanent chakra disruption. When the frogs move, the user can stand still and gather nature energy for them.

>implying you even get to it then Itachi would have had enough time to form a Susanoo
That's really Itachi's best bet, stopping Jiraiya from going SM, because if he does, then Itachi's only chance if a happy accident.

>not an argument schizo, tsukuyomi is faster
Tsukuyomi needs eyecontact. Frog song can't be blocked even if it's longer.

>Gaara attack only worked because sand was already in Madara's feet
Jiraiya can transform huge lands into swamps. Yomi Numa is even more suited to stopping Susano than what Gaara did.

>Itachi has the hax shield of the susanoo so the genjutsu would only be a distraction
Doesn't stop sound or attacks from the ground.

>Saying it just rekts anything Itachi has is retarded
I mean it in the sense that Jiraiya is a hard counter to most Itachi attacks. Can seal/block/avoid Amaterasu, bypass the shield, blocks literally all regular Genjutsu (I'll give the benefit of the doubt for Tsukuyomi) and so on.

>Susanoo or amaterasu fucks the frog summons
The big ones. The small ones are on Jiraiya so they won't get touched.

Jigens is the only one I dislike desu, maybe kawaki too, the rest are pretty good

He was just weak to sharingan since it negates most of his strengths. (stealth/surprise)

Mangekyo AIDS

CUTE!

>His copying ability quickly became irrelevant.
not really, he got the hint to using mangekyo sharingan which put him in a very good level

My culture is not your fancy dress

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Probably the only 2 good character designs of Boruto.

Nuns4 music starts playing in my head whenever I see that.
>feels nostalgic of a game I played 2 years ago

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Be Osmosis Jones

I just remembered I never did the Boruto content in storm 4

I never actually played it, is it good when I don't like fighting games but love Naruto and the fact that I can play as Rikudo Madara?

This chicken eating baboon stole Tsunade from him.

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i think it's more along the lines of itachi not wanting to go all out and basically killing himself too early. but yes jiraiya was incredibly powerful and people never really give him proper credit. in his first big fight, he's barely able to move due to being poisoned the night before. pain fight? he was fighting 3 at once and ambushed by the other 3. he had no idea how any of the pains worked and spent the entire battle figuring it out so that naruto wouldn't have to. and even then he could've made it out alive multiple times but he chose to stay and fight as long as possible.

itachi had a terminal illness AND was powering through using this shit during it. he was that much of a badass.

The anime Kishifies the designs and makes fit well in the series. But the manga is offputting. Tats, high heels. Looks like some weird blend of cyberpunk. Does Kishi even supervise this shit anymore?

Yes. They're not really strict fighting games, they're easy to play. They're fantastic "naruto simulators" though so if you just want to kick ass as Madara it's perfect for that.

>Looks like edgy Bleach shit.
>Implying this is a bad thing

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Yes,you can.

Nice. It's discounted on Steam too right now so I think I'll get it.
I recently wasted my money on Elder Scrolls online, absolutely disappointed with that game. I regret buying it.

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Samurai 8 isn't looking to great.

Do I have to unlock him or get him in some other way or is he available to play right off the bat?

i didn't even finish reading the first chapter

i could be misremembering but i think you have to beat story mode, or at least get to a certain point in it

You unlock him at some point during story mode, but even that is pretty quick to blaze through.

why didn't the leaf just brand sasuke a traitor and put a bounty on him? it seems like they were playing favorites.

You have to play through the story until almost the end. You can skip the cutscenes, they're just anime stills

why are naruto threads so comfy lately?

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They absolutely were playing favorites. Tsunade was willing to make concessions for Naruto (for a while)

remember that eventually everybody wises up though and most of the Konoha 12 agree that it's their job to "put down" Sasuke for good

even after the war is over, Kakashi says that Sasuke should consider himself lucky that Naruto has so much influence - because if it was up to 99.999% of the ninja world Sasuke would be executed as a war criminal or spend the rest of his life behind bars
of course, nobody is actually strong enough to apprehend Sasuke except for Naruto so here we are

Thanks! Nice dreams to you tonight.

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Thank you madara user
I found a video for you
youtu.be/Ead0WD_2WUU

They aren't lol.

maybe i just don't come to them enough anymore. i remember there being one on Yea Forums recently weirdly enough that was nice, i feel like they're fun when they don't devolve into sakura vs hinata shit

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they are until the fujos and faggots arrive and start circlejerking

Yes,as a Hinatastan Sakura vs Hinata is pretty boring,but we get forced to defend our waifu, wish that we could exist in peace.

i have not seen naruto fujos in awhile

Nice! That looks super good, I'm excited!

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they are in this thread

where

>Tfw the superior eyes never got any good spotlight

>power creeped out the ass by sharingan

its not fair bros

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Hinata should have gotten more spotlight tho.

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When he needed him to die over revenge but be forgiven at the same time

>fucks a cat
At least his Mom and Sister take Naurto's fox knot which is still k9

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W-will we ever see more of onee-san?

how is that b8, he acuatually one shoot kakashi, the other ninjas are fodder next to him, also madara never used genjutsu against gai because it would be broken,

Genjutsu seems like the greatest oversight of Naruto. The villains never used it against Gai, or Naruto who were both extremely weak to it and had no defense against it

This is Jigen's real form.

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even yamcha could solo the entire narutoverse

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Good thing I stopped reading after pain

Orchimaru stronger than Jiriya.
Itachi fuck orchimaru in 7 sec. Now you decide who is stronger

>japanese theme through out the entire story
>Edgy bad guys in sequel all have Western-Styled clothes
It truly was a, Boruto: Thousand year Shippuden Bleach War

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I get the feeling that eight gates gai would be invulnerable to genjitsu because of his own chakra flow through his body being too powerful and unable to be manipulated, but only during gates

nah, the same rules apply, it's like gods being able to be captured by shikamaru, but yeah, probably only tsukoyomi genjutsu would work, since he could break madara one due being in permanent pain

Writer's pet

The japanese cold

He also was a potential rapist

why

He was interested in women. That makes him a rapist now.

Jiraiya's sage mode sucks though

damn

>Could escape from alive
>"He was capable of beating Itachi and Kisame at the same time."

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Despite being imperfect, Jiraiya's Sage Mode was arguably stronger than Naruto's overall. He had a much bigger arsenal and combos with the frogs on his shoulders, not to mention almost infinite stamina.
Naruto's Sage Mode had more raw power and frog kata.

Yes, because Uchihas are a clan of homosexuals. If an Uchiha likes a woman, he is exiled (Obito)

Also a voyeur, potentially pedophilic and not even bothering to hide it.

Let's be honest, if this wasn't a shonen peeking and cabarets wouldn't cut it.

Even after getting an arm cut, he managed to kill one Pain and escape. He just went back against the 5 remaining paths without SM because muh prophecy.

It's just a whole bunch of power creep and the entire concept of limited chakra is thrown out the window. If you enjoy Naruto's fights it's pretty enjoyable but don't try to take it seriously

The flu

>potentially pedophilic
Mind explaining?

Naruto and Sasuke are apparently reincarnations of the sons of goddess of Chakra or whatever her deal was.

Nevermind, I remembered some details very wrongly.

Why did Naruto decline so much after Part 1?
Sure it was flawed, but it was still an enjoyable show for the most part.
But then Shippuden happened

more like why did it improve, watching toddlers get all edgy was cringe as fuck.
First part is good at the Zabusa arc but that's it, part 2 is superior by manifolds

You are adorable

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It's what happens when your work gets popular, you don't feel like doing it anymore but you're forced to keep doing it if you wish to eat.

I ain't denying Jiraiya is a badass. But he's more a brute force kinda guy. He's got some cool stealth tricks and such but his main fighting style consists of bigger better rasengans, fireballs, and kicks to the head. Itachi just fights well against those types.

jiraya lost miserably agaisnt pain because he didnt even used the deva path

I really hope most of the ninja-gods from naruto get killed off in boruto

>he'd be doing these

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That's the thing with Jiraiya, most people remember him for big Rasengans, fireballs, AOE attacks, which he does, but he also has a bunch of tricky sneaky shit.

First thing he did when he met Itachi and Kisame was summon a belly that'd kill them unless they used something like Amaterasu to break it. That's vicious af.
Against Pain, he used more tricky oneshot stuff. Frog song is one, but it takes setup. A more impressive one would be the barrier he used to kill one of the 6 paths while he was wounded and on the defensive. But he also had the frogs using water pressure strong enough to cut metal or track and grab people. He could also hide clones in plain sight and make use of a lot of jutsus at the same time (see how he got the 3 Pains before the frog song landed)

So yeah, if Jiraiya was only brute force, I'd say Itachi would have the edge, but JIraiya is pretty much a jack of all trades. He showed a lot more jutsus than Kakashi or the 3rd.

Pain himself said he'd lose if Jiraiya knew his secret. The only hit Jiraiya took was the cheapshot after he thought the fight was over. From this point, there's basically no fight since Jiraiya focused on the prophecy.

Remember when Itachi was going to be the only human Akatsuki member and the rest were monsters?

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>I ain't denying Jiraiya is a badass. But he's more a brute force kinda guy. He's got some cool stealth tricks and such but his main fighting style consists of bigger better rasengans, fireballs, and kicks to the head. Itachi just fights well against those types.
>Implying Itachi has won even one fight in the series through anything else than brute force usage of Mangekyo

The leader looked human.

Maybe he was actually supposed to be Minato - who was some kind of nefarious demon/monster wrangler and wanted the Nine-Tails a part of his ranks.

>Pain himself said he'd lose if Jiraiya knew his secret.

that was just plot because jiraiya was a very loved character, Pain would have murdered jiraiya if they fought in another location

You are too! Lovely pigtails.

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>that was just plot
That's just your headcanon.
The fight would have gone very differently with all 6 Pains from the beginning against SM Jiraiya. Jiraiya could lose to Deva's overpowered telekinesis, but on the other hand his AOE attacks and frog song would touch all the paths, so they'd be a lot more effective.

Overall I think Jiraiya might lose, but he'd have chances of winning if he pulls the right combo. Either way, defeating the 6 Paths of Pain is something very few characters can do. Itachi probably would lose to them, especially because of his lack of stamina and because the Totsuka GG is less useful when you have 6 bodies who can revive.

did we watch the same series, deva path pull is instant gg, kishimoto removed the deva path vs jiraiya because he would have been massacred

He employs multiple different genjutsu's throughout the series, which almost by definition aren't brute force. They're cheap one-shots for sure though.

Deva path pull only worked on normal Naruto. It wasn't even insta gg against shitters like Kakashi. Sage mode Naruto or Jiraiya would have ways to defend.

pain murdered kakashi in 10 seconds with 2 pulls

reminder that paper ninjutsu is a kekkek genkai, literally wood release but kishimoto noticed so he decided to put it as ninjutsu

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>Itachi fucking solo's Edo full power Nagato
What? Nagato was telling B/naruto/itachi what to do to defeat him and even then they barely won.

Literally the only named character he defeated without using Mangekyo was Kurenai, and that was through a completely different Sharingan bullshit.
Tsukuyomi is literally a brute force genjutsu, Amaterasu is brute force Katon, Susano'o, especially Itachi's, is one of the most bullshit jutsu in the series.

Pretty sure that it was classified as Yang release, so closer to a Hijutsu.

jiraiya wasn't interested in fighting them, he was interested in making naruto prance around naked and stretching out his bussy

Itachitards are the new furries

Naruto x jiraya is a based ship

yeah, because everyone can learn to turn their bodies into a new element (paper)

naruto x gaara is superior ship, imagine gaara using transformation justsu to have naruto baby, i'd bet he would love the idea

Zabuza arc is better than any other arc in all 15 years of the serie.

reminder that sarada will get the old eyes of sasuke and gain EMS

db still feels like it makes sense. they go from like city destroyers to country destroyers to planet destroyers to galaxy destroyers.

the last 1/2 of shippuden theres like a power up every other episode.

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First page tells you that the Kyuubi can flatten mountains
Less than halfway into the story you get the know that Madara and Hashirama rerouted rivers and created a valley

No, the powerscalling never spiralled out of controll. You should always have been aware of hte state the protags are gonna reach.

It's not an element. She uses Yang chakra to change properties of her body to turn into paper that she utilises in combat.

>Mythical chakra beast can cause calamities
>So it's obvious that mortal men should be able to do so as well
No, that's dumb. Madara's Final Susano'o was literally more destructive than Kyuubi.

If Itachi couldn't kill Sasuke, why didn't he tell Obito to do it?

Do you think they will kill off Naruto in Boruto?

>beginning of naruto
>oh and btw I'm stronger than kakashi lol
>can use jutsu, just chooses not to
>itachi and kisame are slapping around kakashi, kurenai and asuma
>guy shows up and they leave because they know they'll lose against him alone
>fights kisame 3 times
>doesn't even remember his name because hes like an ant to him
>goes super sayan at the end of shippudden and nearly kills sage of six paths madara single-handed
>would have killed madara if he didn't miss
>was crowned by madara as "the strongest shinobi"
its not even funny anymore, if naruto didn't have plot armor jutsu he would probably be able to kill him too

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Imagine the shitstorm

He was crowned the 'strongest in taijutsu' not 'strongest'.

youtube.com/watch?v=sFigpcJWhCY
8:45
"I, Madara, declare you the strongest"

konan actually won

I hope so desu

why konan just didn't requested konoha help to keep the rinnegan safe

He meant in taijutsu

Why is Rikudo Madara so cute?

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based on what

fuck off

I don't think they have the balls to. It doesn't even look like Kawaki killed the more the manga progresses.

I miss him

>Open the eight Gate
>Solo whomever your heart desires but you die anyway

Whats the point

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Remember back in the day everyone thought Gai was a joke and the concept if him giving someone on the level of Madara Uchiha a hard time was laughable?

>beginning of the show preaches hard work beats talent
>Naruto ended up being son of hokage with nine tails powers and reincarnation of Asura
Ok

you protected the ones you luved

yeah and let me add this too
>pein destroying leaf village
>guy is conveniently on a mission far away
he probably could have killed pein too

Pyrrhic victory

>Naruto says he'll change the Ninja world
>Sequel starts with konoha destroyed
naruto ruined everything

The Japanese sickness

Imagine being a complete an utter badass, capable of taking on hundreds of people at once, feared throughout the world, only to be taken out by a common cold.

All of the other shinobi that he has fought in the past. Madara literally says that.

bruh.wav

i don't care about boruto but part of me still wants to see naruto have my "that's not my getsuga" moment where a bunch of people try to fight him and he actually goes all out and destroys them. naruto and sasuke should both be literal gods just destroying all the problems of the boruto world in an instant.

>Jiraiya loses to pain
>Itachi defeats Nagato
Lol no. Itachi one shots.

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.t retard who didn't get the power system

t. Seething virgin frog sage fan

Not really, but if you thini Itachi Itachi could take on Pain you're delusional

He one shots. Nagato is far stronger than his paths, as seen when he absolutely destroyed Bee and Naruto.
Jiraiya wouldn’t have lasted a second against Nagato.

Itachi couldn't have done shit against Nagato without Bee and Naruto bailing him out. And that was a Nagato who couldn't move.

>He one shots. Nagato is far stronger than his paths
And this is why I called you a retard. Nagato wields stronger powers. Pain has 6 bodies. Each of these powersets can be useful in different context. Going totsuka oneshot lol would work on Nagato because he has one slow body (especially in Edo). It wouldn't work on Pain who can revive fallen bodies and rape Itachi on the long run.

If Itachi had any common sense he would of just taken Sasuke and his aifu and fucked off to some random no name country on the other side of the world,and just let anbu kill off the rest of his family.

Read the manga. itachi saved both of them, he could have defeated Nagato before he even used CT if he didn’t.

That's what a retard would do aside of mass murder his family. Do you think anbu or Danzo will let him fuck off to a no name country after knowing their master plan on the Uchiha and that he stole Shisui's eyes?

he can't activate SM immediately, unlike the 4th and naruto. He'd die before he'd get it off.

4th and Naruto can't activate it faster than him, it's the same "gather nature energy" process. But yeah if Itachi manages to Totsuka him while he's charging up he could win. I don't think this would necessarily happen though, Jiraiya managed to go SM against a summon spamming enemy, he'd probably find a way against Itachi. Maybe summon the 3 big frogs to be on the safe side.

>>db still feels like it makes sense.
>Frieza is hyped up as the strongest faggot in the universe, and Goku's hyped as the only one able to kill him and end his tyranny
>FF to cell and 2 random teens are able to surpass his power thanks to an old man.
you're wrong and you should feel bad.

Yep. Literally no reason to stay somewhere that wants to kill your family, even if you would prefer peace.
>Danzo
Can’t stop Orochimaru, can’t stop Itachi.

Still loses to Kakazu,deidara, and sasori in the power scaling list.

If Minato survived, could he stop the Uchiha coup like he said when he was revived?

Yes.

>Jiraiya managed to go SM against a summon spamming enemy
Think of the environment, he had more places to run and hide in the area he encountered pain, in comparison to the area he encountered Itachi and kisame. His summons get countered by amaterasu, considering how the toad that had high resistance to fire, still got an ulcer from that technique.

Why is my wife crying?

>he had more places to run and hide in the area he encountered pain
That was anime only. Cool filler though, but in the manga he just let that one shield frog fight his way through the waves.
His summons would get destroyed by Amaterasu, but Itachi can only use about 3 MS jutsu before he can't use Sharingan (shown by his fight with Sasuke and in part 1), so I'd say it'd be a fair trade off for J-man.

No, Minato was a fucking failure who couldn't even protect his own team or his son. How is he going to protect the entire Uchiha clan?
>knows teamwork is the most important thing
>knows kakashi lacks teamwork
>puts 12 year old kakashi in charge anyway
>5 minutes before kakashi's first mission as captain
>kakashi tries to solo 20 enemies with the chidori and minato has to save him
>this doesn't raise ANY red flags in minato's mind, proceeds with the mission as planned
>kakashi loses his eye
>obito presumed dead
>later, kakashi and rin are once again abandoned by minato
>rin gets kidnapped by kiri and kakashi isn't skilled enough to save her on his own
>rin dies
>later, kushina offers to be the only one to die so minato can stay and raise naruto
>lol nah, let me seal this demon inside him at the cost of my own life
>naruto grows up an ostracized orphan
Minato is responsible for Naruto's loneliness, Kakashi's PTSD, Obito's abduction by Madara, and Rin's death. If the original Pain == Minato rumors had been true, it would've been cliche, but it would make sense. Minato was a terrible leader.

Do you seriously think that genjutsu from a sharingan would work on Gai when he spent literal years training himself on how to counter Kakashi's eye? The only person more immune to that would have been deidara.

No you didn't. Naruto had to pay him in sexy no jutsu so much that it evolved into harem no jutsu.

literally seconds before that he said 'out of all those I've fought in taijutsu, I Madara declare you the strongest!'

He invented harem against Ebisu in ch 2

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He got gg ez'd by Itachi solo king.

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So he is kashin koji.

>He was capable of beating Itachi and Kisame at the same time.

Only one character was better than him : Maito Gai (and that's why him et his team was out of the city when Pain attacked it)

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>be deidara
>14 years old
>just want to look at art
>itachi blocks your path
>insults your artwork
>puts you in a genjutsu
>forces you to join a cult
>spend 5 years training yourself to resist genjutsu for your rematch
>itachi's brother comes along
>counter all his genjutsu thanks to your training
>he asspulls a manda summon, puts manda in a genjutsu, and escapes despite having no chakra left
Woe is he who goes against the author's pets. I'm sure if Guy had actually fought Itachi Kishi would've invented something stronger than the eighth gate to give Itachi the edge.

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There's no way Jiraya is faster than Itachi was swapping hands with Kyubi mode Naruto

>The 7th gate alone allowed him to 1-shot Kisame while explicitly not trying to kill him
>Later he bodies Madara's Susano
>He did not use this ability to kill every Sand nigger during the Konoha crush

They can Minato literally open and closed his eyes to activate it, and Naruto just has to flex to activate it even since Kyubi started helping him.

He'd rather have a fair competition to see how many he and Kakashi could defeat without using Sharingan or Inner Gate hax.

Still can't believe gai could have shit on every threat in naruto bar kagura

But he couldn't. He could have suicide bombed a single target and that'd been it. Obito could have just teleported out. You need to consider that he was only able to even fight Madara because Madara was willing to engage and test him. If the target/targets aren't willing to engage and actually battle it out, he will die in vain.

Madara had nothing close to Kamui, I don't think he had a choice but to engage Guy (even if he also wanted to).