Do you think there's any chance of a season 2?
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
Do you think there's any chance of a season 2?
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
Uruka a shit
Uruka a best
Mafuyu and Rizu a second best
Fumino a shit
Goddess.
No, they need the budget for the next romcom adaptation.
Love Hina is a better tutor manga and a classic in its own right.
Keitarou > Fuuts/Moeboy
Bump
twitter.com
According to moetron, maybe?
higher chance of Nisekoi getting a season 3
Fumino, Rizu, and Asumi are the top 3 girls.
Checked and fpbp
Kusoben need to go longer to keep its reign as king of romcom kusomanga
Well, considering Bokuben is nowhere as popular as LH during its era, you're right.
I love Rizu
Sensei > Fumino
Naru>1=3=4=5>sensei> incapables>sensei>shit>2
asumi-ing asumi's asumis
Please do not erase the tomboy
That goes without saying
The MC? Sure. The Heroines though? They were complete shit.
/chem/?
Wew, THK was beaten by less than half a min.
Love Hina also had a sensei end with Naru becoming a teacher.
Itsuki/Mafuyu end confirmed then
Imagine these threads if Uruka never existed.
how comes theres like 0 good fanart of sensei and her pump ass?
I'm guessing people don't like her.
>Rizu
>top girl
>meanwhile below even Asumi on polls
I feel bad for Rizubros.
I actually just binge reread Love Hina this month. Mafuyu is the closest thing to a Naru style character.
>knew the MC's family when MC-kun was a little kid
>changed her whole career path as a result
>MC is completely at home studying with her at his place or hers
>starts looking down at MC, ends up looking up to him
>dramatic confessions
>MC always seeing her naked becomes normal and expected as the series progresses
>MC seemingly abandoning his career path has her physically chasing after him
>she stands up to MC's family on his behalf
Now granted, Bokuben is no Love Hina, but the parallels are there.
The canon art is already so good.
That's Tsutsui's fault for making Nariyuki downplay her and reducing her role. Early on it looked like she was going to win while Fumino was in the background.
>Sensei listed twice
>I actually just binge reread Love Hina this month.
Are you a masochist, senpai?
>I-it's the mangakas fault!
Not even Tsutsui likes Rizu, Rizubros truly are in hell.
I think it's implied where senpai is placed between the two.
I'm not really sure if he has an idea on what to do with Rizu.
I mean, what course is she actually pursuing, literature or psychology?
And only to read people better?
>I feel bad for Rizubros.
I don't, it's their fault for having shit taste
I mean even fucking Asumi is better than her
When you are an old man like me, you will come to understand that Asumi is best girl.
A moeblob just doesnt work with the manga's presime.
But Nariyuki is a moeblob
no wonder mafuyu is worst girl
Worse then, the same archetype as a couple is doomed to fail. Also, he is the MC so it hardly matters.
>Udonblob
ftfy
>Actually drawing parallels between Mafuyu and fucking Naru
What the hell are you doing user
Fumino is worst girl tho
she's invisible just like her tits
I actually enjoyed it better read all at once. It lets you see the character development happening fast enough to not constantly hate Naru after the first couple of volumes.
Autism for my favorite bokuben girl. Foompaloompas aren't the only ones that can point to meta archetypes now.
Which polls?
if sensei wins then all of this will make perfect sense and tsutsui planned it all along
Can someone post all the others posters?
But Naru? Really?
She's not even a good shortstack.
Uruka*
this
Sensei seems like an autist that never grew out of her late teens, she can barely take care of herself and speaks in a constantly condescending tone. While she'd make a good wife starting out, she'd eventually fall into submission once she accepted her feelings and you'd quickly end up living a boring lifestyle filled with lame conversations. Dat ass though.
Fumino is your bread and butter long-haired princess with a bit of tsun, a bit of dere and a bit of yan. While she certainly thinks of others, it's in an almost calculatingly cold and analytical fashion. Plus daddy issues is never good, she'll never be lax with you in any way and probably lay there like a frigid rock in bed while you do all the work. With Fumino, you're definitely going to be whipped and on a leash, she couldn't have it any other way.
Rizu is legitimately on the autism spectrum. While I relate to her because I was definitely a bit autistic in my past, that's also exactly why I would never want to be in a relationship with her. I couldn't see myself having interesting or meaningful conversations with Rizu, she'd be too submissive and probably make a great mother, but not a great wife overall.
Asumi is unironically the most mature person in the manga. She's empathetic and good with words, selfless and emotionally mature but also playfully coy and has amazing fashion sense. She never takes her teasing too far, keeping it playful but never pushing it into something that hurts. She's the kind of girl that would make an excellent wife and still manage to challenge you emotionally and intellectually even after many years of being together. With Asumi, you could help each other grow as people on a regular basis, always bringing your relationship to new highs even after you have children.
Sawako is similar to Asumi, with the added bonus of having to teach her about the power of Dick first.
Why did you have to ruin this image? Someone post the original.
Rizu**
(con't)
As for Uruka, she's just too dumb. It's sad really, if her brain weren't possibly the size of a peanut, she'd easily make best girl.
Cute
Why not? The slender Yamato Nadeshiko who hits the MC a lot is pretty clearly a Motoko (or Shinobu from UY) riff, the tanned genki tomboy archetype comes from Kaolla, and the MC suffering in poverty gags are pure Keitaro.
There is literally no appeal to Fumino to people who are NEETs or pedophiles.
I thought pedos liked DFC
Anyone have the clean version of this? I only ever saw the LQ one.
Who will win?
>There is literally no appeal to Riyu to people who are NEETs or pedophiles.
Fixed
This just convinces me more that Mafuyu is by far the best character in the manga.
At least make an effort if you're baiting user
That was my goal.
Please point to anything that shows a sign of Uruka being more intelligent than a flightless bird.
Please tell me this is a shitpost
based!
Honestly I agree with you on Asumi she's probably the best girl she's top two though just behind Mafuyu with the rest of the main girls far behind them.
With a couple of the side characters up near the top slots.
I think Mafuyu has hidden reserves which she would explore during marriage and raising her children. the sheer force of concentrated willpower it takes to succeed at the highest levels is not to be taken lightly.
Naru also hits at keitaro all the time though.
In a real world explain to me how Senpai wouldn't be best girl for mc? She's not his fucking teacher and she's a functioning human unlike the two dumbasses. It's between her and the black girl, but the black one is going away and she's also an idiot, so...
The mail girl.
t. normalfag
She's the only one having a different talent among the 5 (music)
The actual average student who failed instead.
Not an autist genius, but also not a bumbling retard.
Just a normal student with anxiety issues.
Based on your logic, the only girl they like would be Asumi who's a kawaii cosplay meido loli.
Sawako
Confession to Rizu soon.
This is Bokuben's Shuu x Riri, but better.
I just think Mafuyu would fall too easily into the pattern of housewife. While it would be cute watching her maternal instincts take over and picking up cooking, cleaning, child rearing and clumsily failing at them, I just can't see her as good relationship material after a few years.
Flip a coin. That's how 22i will decide. Search your feelings, you know this to be true.
His baby daughter will choose for him.
>tanned genki tomboy archetype
She's more of a Yotsuba than an Uruka though.
Status symbol.
one of the downsides against Asumi is from my personal perspective at least, short offspring. as much as people like to IMAGINE I'm attracted to physically strong women, an Asumi 30cm taller would be a different story
Regardless on how any of you feel, Uruka is clearly set up to win
>While it would be cute watching her maternal instincts take over and picking up cooking, cleaning, child rearing and clumsily failing at them, I just can't see her as good relationship material after a few years.
Teacher plus housewife duties plus skating coach plus raising kids would make her a superb wife that keeps her shape for decades.
I think for Fumino, you will eventually becomes tired and jealous of her talent. You will constantly be reminded that she is a genius, everyone loves her, and could have archieve great frame and fortune if she decides to utilize her talent- something most of us are not and can not. In a way, her 'prefection' will wear out her significant other.
Nanako is best girl. Stop blurring out the truth
The 2024 Paris Olympics.
Shame she won't even qualify yet for next year.
Will this ever be resolved?
Go home already, Rizu.
Wrong pic?
That wouldn't really bother me personally, I was also labeled a "genius" when I was in high-school; but that was relative to my own peers. Once you get out into the real world, you realize that real geniuses are miles ahead of everyone else, but also only really good at a few specific areas. As long as you weren't in the same profession as Fumino, it wouldn't be so bad. The problem comes with her inherent personality and self-consciousness, she is definitely the kind of girl that would keep her boyfriend on a tight leash, and as someone who dated a girl like that, I can tell you it gets old very, very fast. Fumino needs a heavily submissive guy that would be happy being in that position in order to have a healthy relationship.
manga started in 2017 so she's probably already qualified
Well since Yuiga has a doormat of a personality he is perfect.
A big chad Australian swimmer, yes.
Yuiga still has his own ambitions and drive in life, he's just beginning to come into his own. While I don't doubt that he would be able to manage being in a relationship with Fumino, I also think it would heavily stunt his own growth as a person.
The same morons who are discounting Uruka are the ones who think Ichika won't win. kek
>Sensei seems like an autist that never grew out of her late teens
That's not true, her whole problem is that she never even got to be a teen
>speaks in a constantly condescending tone
To her students, she talks completely normal to others
>While she'd make a good wife starting out, she'd eventually fall into submission once she accepted her feelings and you'd quickly end up living a boring lifestyle filled with lame conversations
She's make a horrible housewife really. Nothing ever goes her way and she's super clumsy, you'd never have a boring day with her around
>Fumino is your bread and butter long-haired princess with a bit of tsun, a bit of dere and a bit of yan
She's much more dere than tsun or especially yan
>While she certainly thinks of others, it's in an almost calculatingly cold and analytical fashion
Literally not true at all
>she'll never be lax with you in any way and probably lay there like a frigid rock in bed while you do all the work
This is actual headcanon
>With Fumino, you're definitely going to be whipped and on a leash, she couldn't have it any other way.
Be honest, have you read the manga?
>Asumi is unironically the most mature person in the manga
Even if she has an immature and incapable side, Sensei is still the most mature and can give genuinely good advice from experience
>With Asumi, you could help each other grow as people on a regular basis, always bringing your relationship to new highs even after you have children
That applies to more than just her. Feel free to have your waifu but don't try to put her on a pedestal over the other girls
I don't blame them, she constantly shoots herself in the foot and also
>childhood friend
>winning
Most boring series ever
Dropped it after ep 3 so I hope not
>Be honest, have you read the manga?
Yes, and have you seen her reactions any time Yuiga mentions something even remotely questionable or inappropriate? Or during misunderstandings? That's her yan side, the side that would keep you on a tight leash.
Why can't you guys shut up about quints and 5touban?
older =/= mature
Maturity has a lot to do with being able to recognize and accept your own feelings, as well as being able to express them to others, she clearly has a hard time with that.
But that's a boy.
Senpai is literally the worst character out of the main 5.
>t. underageb&
...
I'll watch the swimming part of the olympics then.
Anyone who can possibly steamroll her in the competition?
She's only a bit stupid but not literal retard tier, if she'd easily be best girl without her stupidity it should hardly make a difference at that level
She's perfectly fine relationship wise, you're acting like you can't have a conversation with her. She's a bit reserved, sure, but she's not actually autistic like Rizu
>she is definitely the kind of girl that would keep her boyfriend on a tight leash, and as someone who dated a girl like that, I can tell you it gets old very, very fast. Fumino needs a heavily submissive guy that would be happy being in that position in order to have a healthy relationship.
This is literally based on nothing, have you seen how she acts?
>wasting time arguing with Asumifags
>Mafuyu is the reindeer
>Nariyuki was dressed as a reindeer
Mmm
She usually just gets flustered, she doesn't even really hit. The only times she does get angry is when it looks like he's getting involved with other girls despite how Rizu and Uruka feel. Never has she tried to put him on a tight leash or make him submit
It's not the only aspect though. She can give genuinely good advice from experience to her students despite seeming hopeless sometimes. That's the point
I dunno senpissfag, you sound like you got a bit mad.
>This is actual headcanon
It's literally a discussion of what each girl would be like in marriage implied by their personalities. Inherently it will include headcanon because it's a discussion of non-canon possibilities, you're completely missing the point.
>To her students, she talks completely normal to others
You mean her sister?
>it should hardly make a difference at that level
Whether or not someone is more intelligent than a penguin is a pretty big factor in their status as best girl for me.
>This is literally based on nothing, have you seen how she acts?
Yes, have you seen her reactions literally every time something questionable happens? Or during misunderstandings? The amount of glares she gives Yuiga throughout the series is almost sensei-level. Very yan, very tight-leash kind of girl.
>you're acting like you can't have a conversation with her
Literally not what I said or implied at all in the initial post, I said the conversations would get boring after a while. Don't strawman faggot.
Yet another thread that lacks coziness.
The anime was a mistake.
You mean Uruka.
Based Urukabro
we thirst for Kirisumasu
If you want cozy go watch CGDCT and stick to those threads, any rom/com is going to be 90% shipping wars.
Nah he meant Ashitmi and he was right
No, I mean Asumi.
Peanut-brain bros at it again.
One more Rizu chapter and then I think we're getting Kirisumas.
t. Pea brain
Sensei > mafuyu > senpai > the rest
>You mean her sister?
And other teachers, aquintances etc. The fuck is your point? At first I thought you serious but you're turning out to be a blatant shitposter.
>Sensei > mafuyu
uh
>Anime
It's been like this for ages. At least since the first poll came out.
>I said the conversations would get boring after a while. Don't strawman faggot.
That goea both ways user. If conversations get boring in your headcanon, then it's partially your fault since it seems like you are even making an effort.
Maybe he means Reiji.
>you are even making
not*
>It's literally a discussion of what each girl would be like in marriage implied by their personalities. Inherently it will include headcanon because it's a discussion of non-canon possibilities, you're completely missing the point.
No, you're missing the point. You were literally talking about her with baseless information. That's headcanon buddy
>You mean her sister?
You know she has talked with more people than her sister, right?
>Whether or not someone is more intelligent than a penguin is a pretty big factor in their status as best girl for me.
Well, good thing she is
>Yes, have you seen her reactions literally every time something questionable happens? Or during misunderstandings? The amount of glares she gives Yuiga throughout the series is almost sensei-level. Very yan, very tight-leash kind of girl.
Getting angry cause he fell on a girl and he's touching her tits and then instantly dropping is not a tight leash. He was literally in a costume and saw her buy underwear and after getting her some ice cream and explaining the situation she forgave him. This is only one example of the many questionable things that he has done and that she forgave as soon as he told her what happened
>Literally not what I said or implied at all in the initial post, I said the conversations would get boring after a while. Don't strawman faggot.
And I'm saying they wouldn't. The comparison came cause you're acting like Asumi would never get boring but she would. Asumi has mostly normal conversations too. The literally only different factor between her and a normal person is her teasing really
>The only times she does get angry
Objectively false
>Never has she tried to put him on a tight leash or make him submit
>she doesn't even really hit
She doesn't have the right to do that, it would be completely overstepping her bounds. Fumino is a bit yan but she's not Rizu levels of autistic.
>She usually just gets flustered
But apparently you ARE Rizu levels of autistic if you think yan glares = flustered
Rich coming from someone who thinks a girl dumber than a flightless bird is best.
When have we ever seen these occurrences in a meaningful way where it isn't absolutely surface level bullshit that even Rizu can manage?
>The literally only different factor between her and a normal person is her teasing really
That's the point, she jabs at your flaws which exposes them to you and allows you get over them, that's what you're supposed to do in a healthy relationship so you can both grow as people. If you just sit there and never fucking say anything or try to point out the problems you notice in your partner your relationship will both get stale and frustrating to deal with.
Obviously the Principal.
>No, you're missing the point. You were literally talking about her with baseless information. That's headcanon buddy
>baseless information
>implications made by her personality
>literally talking about non-canon possibilities with 3D people
You are honestly the dumbest person I have had a conversation with in a long time.
>Rich coming from someone who thinks a girl dumber than a flightless bird is best
Uruka is best and that's the high IQ choice
Principal will win
>high iq is choosing the low iq
what did user mean by this
Obviously user will be a deadbeat husband so he needs a dumb wife.
>speaks in a constantly condescending tone
Point is that this is straight up false faggot. And then you have to gall to tell as if her sister is the only one she doesn't speak like that too. It's completely nonsensical to think she'd speak like that anyone else, much less all the time to her peers or the people around her. I am already throughout convinced you're nothing but an inbred posting under a false guise of "having a discussion". All you're downing is downplaying literally every girl in favor for Asumi, which is completely centered around your baseless headcanon.
Even though he's more of memorizing than actually studying, the moeboy's not that dumb
Please describe Sawako and Mizuki as wives, anons-san.
I just assume that since I have a 4 digit IQ. And when you have a 4 digit IQ assumptions become facts.
what's the best chapter of sensei?
>Objectively false
You care to explain?
>She doesn't have the right to do that, it would be completely overstepping her bounds
She doesn't have the right to do that when they're married either dumbass
>But apparently you ARE Rizu levels of autistic if you think yan glares = flustered
And apparently you don't understand what the word "usually" means. When something intimate happens she gets embarrassed more than she glares at him, especially if she knows it isn't his fault. It pretty much just takes an explanation of the sometimes ridiculous events for her to understand and forget it
That's not teasing though and it's not exclusive to her either
>implications made by her personality
Unreasonable implication built on weak "evidence"
>literally talking about non-canon possibilities with 3D people
Yes, with baseless information. Should I say Asumi is worst girl cause she would cheat on you with your dad? No, cause that's fucking retarded
>You are honestly the dumbest person I have had a conversation with in a long time
You took the words right out of my mouth
But which of his plans will eventually be successful?
It's not ch. 100
it's 102.
>greentext quote
Reply
Is this the thinking man post?
Mizuki was a mistake.
102 is best.
100 is great too.
Why you little genius.
> It's completely nonsensical to think
Admittance that you're basing it solely on headcanon when we have literally seen her talk like that 9/10 times to other people.
A mistake to make so cute, it's too much.
Natsumi chapter
>when we have literally seen her talk like that 9/10 times to other people.
(You)
>She doesn't have the right to do that when they're married either dumbass
There are entire comedies written around this concept dating back a few millenia, if you think Fumino isn't the kind of girl that would exercise that power with her understanding of psychology and her princess mentality I don't know what to tell you.
He'll get rid of mafuyu by marrying her to nariyuki, half of the students hate her and she doesn't produce results when needed (3 genius)
>y-you can't make baseless assumptions but i-i can!
Senseifags in a nutshell.
I'm a big fan of the Miharu chapters and all of her arc but if you're looking for my favorite singular chapter it would have to be the one where she dresses up a student (41). After that chapter is when she became best girl, her living out her highschool life even for a day with Nariyuki was way to cute
Too real, user, too real.
100-102
105-6
80
93
45
Wait a minute
>if you think Fumino isn't the kind of girl that would exercise that power with her understanding of psychology and her princess mentality I don't know what to tell you.
She isn't, she literally has a group of people who treat her as a princess and try to fulfil her wishes in the actual fucking manga and she tells them to stop
Guess again
>Yes, with baseless information. Should I say Asumi is worst girl cause she would cheat on you with your dad? No, cause that's fucking retarded
It's not baseless, I literally said I was relating it to my own personal experiences dating people with personalities similar to Washboard-chan in a later post. Like I said, you're completely missing the point, it's an assumption of what /I/ think she would be like in a scenario that is already heavily non-canon.
>She isn't, she literally has a group of people who treat her as a princess and try to fulfil her wishes in the actual fucking manga and she tells them to stop
Which is a completely different scenario from Washboard-chan handling her OWN relationship. At least make your points somewhat tangentially related to the scenario.
>autism and walls of text
In this necessary?
It's a romcom thread, when is it not?
>fixed Fumino will never be your wife
>Lolifuyu will never be your daughteru
So this is what they call despair.
>a princess not wanting to be a princess
a trope as old as time, jus cus she doesn't want to be treated like a princess doesn't mean she doesn't act like a princess
Off topic but can someone tell me why speed reading has a negative connotation on here?
best girl
That's the best looking washboard I've ever seen, how much are you selling it for? Do you take trade-ins?
>It's not baseless, I literally said I was relating it to my own personal experiences dating people with personalities similar to Washboard-chan in a later post
Then those girls and Fumino are clearly not similar cause what you're describing is not like her at all
>Which is a completely different scenario from Washboard-chan handling her OWN relationship
But it isn't fucking different from what you're talking about. You said that she would do it cause she has some princess mentality but she clearly doesn't because she has people who act like her subjects and tells them to stop. So it's quite literally coming from your ass. It's literally the same thing as saying Asumi would fuck your dad behind your back
Good thing she also doesn't act like it
Because user, it's vitally important to deeply understand all the depth, subtext, and context of this mediocre shonen harem manga.
This but unironically. There's enough subtlety that speed readers genuinely miss things and then get buttblasted later.
Only because speed readers talk like they know their shit.
Would be fine if they just kept quiet.
I never did, it's quite apperent your just a shitposter now. No use continueing this.
God I sure am grateful for not engaging this shittery.
What a shit taste
Thanks for conceding. Not him by the way.
>This but unironically
Kek
>she also doesn't act like it
>self-conscious about breast-size and weight
>yan stares
>daddy issues
>muh stars
>muh go against the grain
>muh put friends first then realize i dun goof'd
user, I have bad news for you.
Asumifag is going rampant on all the girls with his "real life experience" and then he decided to blatantly deny canon content to suit that narrative.
You're a faggot. Not him by the way
>ty but she clearly doesn't because she has people who act like her subjects and tells them to stop
Literally every princess ever. At this point I don't even think you understand the trope.
I wish KanoKari had this level of intelligent discourse.
>KanoKari
Which manga is this?
>literally seen her talk like that 9/10 times to other people.
Who?
Damnit user, now it just looks like I'm trying to samefag.
What do those have to do with a princess? I can only really see daddy issues and maybe stars (like a princess looking at stars from the tower?) buy that last one is kind of a stretch
Same, but with Kaguya.
>【#ぼく勉 季節版権 公開】 6月の季節版権イラストを公開します! 今月は真冬とうるかの花嫁姿 公式サイトでも御覧になれます
Kaguya is too explicit with its relationships to warrant good discourse. Although it seems like that might get flipped on its head.
Sensei and Uruka a cute!
Ching Chong to you too.
Kanojo, Okarishimasu. It's a series about rental girlfriends where all the teenage characters are complete jerkasses to each other but put on good faces for their families. Also it's a romcom that takes place in Nerima so I keep waiting for someone to transform after getting splashed with cold water.
>Literally every princess ever. At this point I don't even think you understand the trope.
So then please tell me how she acts like a princess and how you could reasonably get to your point about her exercising her power as a princess like you said
Think of the pretty girl in a romance who gets lots of confession letters but rejects them all, as well as her interest for the MC, but then later comes to realize she actually does like him. Pretty common.
>second season confirmed in text
>sensei bride in image
YES
What were they thinking while drawing this disaster?
See
How does /bokuben/ do it?
Bonus points if she comes from an upper-class family. Washboard-chan ticks most of the boxes.
Sensei looking shy marrying Nariyuki
>Think of the pretty girl in a romance who gets lots of confession letters but rejects them all, as well as her interest for the MC, but then later comes to realize she actually does like him.
So Asuka without the redeeming characteristics?
How is that related to a princess though? And I also don't see what it has to do with you previous post either
Do 5toubun threads even reach this level of enlightened discussions?
I think not, but I haven't really visited the threads lately to form a conclusion.
>upper-class family
>talented
>school idol
>doesn't want to be school idol/princess
>has daddy issues
>loves stars
Have you read many stories with princesses in them?
I just want a Rizu bride
I hope season 2 doesn't look as ugly as this shit. For some reason they always mess up when drawing Sensei's tits
So what if Reiji the King of? Maths? Autism?
> caption
? Now you're just listing different points. But to address those she's likened to a princess a lot (especially by her fan club) but she doesn't really act like it, that's the point
...
the tan in a dress like this looks even more stupid in color
Lucky for you, Sawako exists
Reminder that Fumino and Nariyuki have transcended the boyfriend/girlfriend barrier, bonded together by a deep trust, and no amount of shitposting can change that.
>I keep waiting for someone to transform after getting splashed with cold water.
You don't need to wait anymore, nothing happened.
>overly self-conscious about her weight and appearance
>yan stares
>muh loving and caring attitude
>muh love MC but can't accept feelings
She is a princess.
Moe! Poor boys can't compete.
Yeah, they're like siblings now.
And you think those traits are princess exclusive?
What I don't understand is this Rizu arc is giving her winning flags left and right and I still see people in denial
You are misinterpreting what a princess is; she's not supposed to be a bitch that wants attention from everyone; she's not supposed to go for the handsome, also upper-class jock.
Stop posting pics of that goblin.
Where? She is literally getting the cucked one role
That's because it's a bridesmaid's dress. Those are traditionally ugly as shit to not overshadow the bride.
The degree of uncertainty around who the winning girl actually is requires a higher degree of analysis.
No
Fumino is Nariyuki's BEST FRIEND
Exclusive to solely that trope? No, of course not, but they are definitely common characteristics of it. Washboard-chan is a super common and generic romcom main girl princess.
Bless you, user.
>The degree of uncertainty around who the winning girl actually is requires a higher degree of analysis.
So 5toubun actually has a higher level of discourse?
They're still struggling on how to digest Negi's texts.
Reminder that Rizu would go insane if she saw Nariyuki and Mafuyu's closeness
Nariyuki has shown zero affection to Fumino. Absolutely none romantically. Unlike the other four girls where he has
Toubun discourse is based around "look at these hints, the bride made the same expression as this one girl once before, look at the pose!!!"
Objectively false. Moeyuki has blushed many times at incidental affection to her, like when he put his arm around her during the hotel arc and got super flustered about it.
>So 5toubun actually has a higher level of discourse?
No, quintshitters are just terrible people. Maybe Bokuben attracts a different audience?
He never showed shit for anyone except for maybe Uruka that one time.
I thought it was generally agreed that Fumino is going to win because they're not brave enough for a Sensei end, Uruka is leaving and Rizu has been downplayed for a while.
I'd be happy if Fumino lost though.
>Clothed outdoor sex
>Trying to keep herself quiet while being rammed from behind
>Tiptoeing
I-I need a JAVvcode and actress for this
>walk into store
>see Rizu stand
>just above the stand, in a large and bold typeface
>WANT SOME UDON?!
Don't forget this page.
itt people confuse friendship with romance. I bet you flatfags fell in love with the first girl who ever listened to you.
How Is that romantic? He got flustrered with all the girls too.
Most guys in high-school do that.
I know that much but saying she has a princess mentality when she really acts nothing like what you'd expect from a princess is a bit jarring. She's compared to one all of the time because of those traits, sure, but she's really just a normal girl despite what her fan club or Rizu thinks about her. And I can only assume that Rizu learning that is going to be an essential component to her arc
Yeah but all of the traits in also apply to Mafuyu as well so it's hardly a unique thing. Her normal behavior from chapter to chapter seems pretty contrary to the princess theme
that would by Kobayashi
>Reminder that Fumino and Nariyuki have transcended the boyfriend/girlfriend barrier
I agree, the bond between a man and his pet is truly beautiful
He didn't say anything about Rizu.
user, not that I agree with him. But are you retarded?
user, please I beg you to stop posting shit pictures.
Asumi has the best parents, total bros that are fun and supportive. Hands down best family to marry into plus she'd make a great wife all around. Your kids would be midgets though.
No.
>I thought it was generally agreed that Fumino is going to win
And then you realize there is nothing which supports this narrative in the story.
What's the point, her dad has clearly one feet on the coffin already.
>I thought it was generally agreed that Fumino is going to win because they're not brave enough for a Sensei end
That was before we realized that the anime studio has been suppressing everyone's screentime except sensei's relative to what they got in the manga, and shuffled the first episode around to make sensei the first girl, and she's also getting the season-end beach OVA. Given how involved Tsutui is with the anime, he's giving them spoilers about how the manga is going to unfold so they can adapt accordingly. Authors have done the same thing with Hollywood adaptations of ongoing book series. Most famously, JK Rowling told Alan Rickman the truth about Snape's character for the Harry Potter movies to help him get his motivation right.
People don't seem to learn that just because one side has feelings for someone, it doesn't mean the other will reciprocate.
Don't we all?
Go back to your domekano containment thread you ruifag nutjob.
I know user, I know
Yeah, but he has it the most. He will probably die when you announce your marriage with her daughter.
What? I don't read that shit.
That seems like a lot of reaching. More likely Sensei is more popular by a decent margin so it makes sense to focus on her.
>I thought it was generally agreed that Fumino is going to win
and then I thought this line of reasoning died out with her recent solo chapters, I guess not.
>More likely Sensei is more popular by a decent margin so it makes sense to focus on her.
That drives the factors I was discussing as well. Tsutui left the winning girl deliberately ambiguous so I'm certain at least part of his decision is reading the mood of the audience.
>they're not brave enough for a Sensei end
It most definitely isn't an issue of bravery considering how characters keep hammering that it's fine as long as they wait for graduation.
>I feel like somthing's awakening inside of me...
user that's the birth of a fetish, not a budding romance...
It doesn't matter in this case because Nariyuki is a blank slate who'll magically fall in love with whoever the author decides to be the winner.
user, you're reaching a bit. The doubt around the end-girl has little to do with the anime.
>Her normal behavior from chapter to chapter seems pretty contrary to the princess theme
It really isn't, you're looking at princesses like they're supposed to be Asuka, when in reality Asuka differs greatly from the trope in her attitude.
Let me break it down, because even after many people have pointed it out you still somehow fail to grasp the concept.
>Rich, talented, and beautiful girl who also happens to be a school idol and gets many confession letters.
>Girl rejects her love interest in MC at first but then slowly realizes her affection for him as the story progresses, this is in contrast to a girl like Uruka, who is your classic childhood friend that is immediately head over heels for MC.
>Doesn't actually want to have the attention she's given and recluses from her princess life by rejecting confessions and popularity
>Notably, even while being from an upper-class family, she has familial problems that cause her to be distant from them
>Deep down a person who genuinely cares for others
>Usually a tsundere
>Hyouka, Nisekoi, Toradora, Oreigaru, etc...
Granted, Flatmino differs slightly in the way that she is not a full-blown tsundere trope, but for each of the aforementioned stories, each of those girls can be said to differ in some slight away as well, however, they all share common characteristics with each other. Fumino is still very much the classic princess trope; in-fact all of the girls in Bokuben aside from perhaps sensei are all commonly seen and generic characters without much to really set them apart from their predecessors.
>(music)
>implying music is her talent
Lol
Tsutsui has no idea what to do with her and is just patching things together to make her look like a character in this manga
She's shit bro
Do you realize that's mostly because she is the most popular? I mean, I'm not saying it couldn't be that, who knows. But your theory is pretty complex when the most logical one is pretty simple.
>It most definitely isn't an issue of bravery considering how characters keep hammering that it's fine as long as they wait for graduation.
Hanae, Miharu, Hino-san, who else?
>Tsutui left the winning girl deliberately ambiguous
He did say he'd leave it to the gods. What if the gods are supposed to be the readers?
The ghost loli, and Mafuyu herself.
>just friendship
user, I...
>Hanae, Miharu, Hino-san, who else?
Just those and Mafuyu mentioned it herself but those characters have mentioned this in the short spam of less then 10 chapters
Oh right I forgot chapter 111.
Then sensei wins.
>Oreigaru
think you may need a refresher on that one
Miharu and the ghostloli don't even care about the graduation.
Again, just because she's into him that doesn't mean he is/will become into her
Please explain how Yukino does not fit the princess trope.
Yes
Yes, friendship. It isn't friends with benefits, so it can only be friendship. Are you deluding yourself by thinking they are a couple?
That's true, Miharu wants to have three person sleepovers at Mafuyu's place with one bed and doesn't care about Nariyuki still being a high schooler.
>It really isn't, you're looking at princesses like they're supposed to be Asuka, when in reality Asuka differs greatly from the trope in her attitude.
I've never even watched Eva, my perception isn't coming from her or some oujo-sama archetype. It's just that some of these things are stretches. As I've said she's likened to a princess but she looking at her normally chapters shows that she's hardly written with that in mind and acts like a normal girl. A lot of those traits are pretty superficial and generic too
>Rich, talented, and beautiful girl who also happens to be a school idol and gets many confession letters.
>Girl rejects her love interest in MC at first but then slowly realizes her affection for him as the story progresses, this is in contrast to a girl like Uruka, who is your classic childhood friend that is immediately head over heels for MC.
>Doesn't actually want to have the attention she's given and recluses from her princess life by rejecting confessions and popularity
>Notably, even while being from an upper-class family, she has familial problems that cause her to be distant from them
>Deep down a person who genuinely cares for others
>Usually a tsundere
Once again all of these also apply to Mafuyu and a lot of them even apply to Rizu
It's either sensei or foom. The rest of the cast is just a red herring. If you don't agree you're a brainlet.
? Weren't you talking about Fumino?
It's only friendship now for Nariyuki, but not for Fumino who clearly has some budding form of romantic feelings, ones she is unaware of. Given that Fumino is among the most probable to win the bowl, if she wins, then they obviously will become a couple.
It was mentioned in 102, 106, 111
That's what makes them so based
SENSEI WILL WIN. FUCK NON-BELIEVERS. TSUTSUI WON'T DISAPPOINT ME.
Not if the hi-IQ Urukafags have a say in it
>It's only friendship now for Nariyuki, but not for Fumino who clearly has some budding form of romantic feelings, ones she is unaware of. Given that Fumino is among the most probable to win the bowl, if she wins, then they obviously will become a couple.
Okay, so it's friendship. What even was your point?
I just explained it.
This is Negi.
Tsutsui and I talked about this in one of our drinking sessions.
We will definitely disappoint you.
>Rizu's family
>Rich, upper-class
>School idol, lots of confession letters
Were you dropped on your head as a child? Owning an Udon shop and being in financial trouble is the opposite lifestyle. Rizu also doesn't reject her feelings for Nariyuki, she just doesn't understand them.
Mafuyu also falls into the princess trope somewhat, but her problems are inherently with herself, not her family, whereas Fumino's entire raison d'etre is her family.
Narrator: in the end, he did dissapointed him.
Yui? What does Yukino have to do with the post?
>Mafuyu
>having a higher chance than the two MAIN heroines of the story
Poor user.
Are they even red hearings? I see pretty much everybody agree that the only ones with a chance are those 2 save for delusional waifufags. Only other one is Rizu
End game confirmed then
Why are you saying I need a refresher? Yukino is clearly a princess.
No you did not explain shit. You refuted that it wasn't "just" friendship because one is harboring feelings for the other. That still makes it just friendship even if the other would secretly want more. Nothing has changed because of your point. It's still just friendship.
>ESL
>uruka
>high iq
>Were you dropped on your head as a child? Owning an Udon shop and being in financial trouble is the opposite lifestyle
Uhhh, were you? Go back and read my post, I said "a lot". That's why I went out of my way to separate them and make that clear
>Rizu also doesn't reject her feelings for Nariyuki, she just doesn't understand them.
She did at first though
>but her problems are inherently with herself, not her family
? Sorry dude but she has some pretty apparent family issues as well
You interjected in a discussion that was talking about end game wins. Think for a second what you were implying with only just friendship and read the post again.
Yeah but it's the laziest easiest end to do. Fumino will realise her feelings, the other girls will drop out and support her and she wins without effort.
Nobody fucking cares about Rizu
I bet Tsutsui will use her arc for Fuminos development instead
I care.
In theory I don't mind a Fumino victory but the author could have done something to make her remotely interesting. There's not a single redeemable quality about her other than her fuck me eyes
Shut up Sawako.
You're a nobody
Rizu is the only one developing in the arc right now though.
>I said "a lot"
She doesn't even share "a lot" of the traits
How is Rizu a school idol?
How is she from an upper class family?
How is she distant from her family? She doesn't understand her grandmother, but she's pretty close to everyone else.
How is she a Tsundere?
>She did at first though
She didn't, it's very clearly implied that she doesn't understand her affection, there are even scenes where she is questioning why she feels the way she does around Nariyuki. That's NOT rejection. The only point you have is that she is a caring person deep down, that's not "a lot" you fucking imbecile.
Screencapped. Sink or swim, I'll remember you when the time comes.
Negi is a lie. I bet he just used the excuse of editor-san to hide behind his real decision to make Itsuki the main girl.
What did Tsutsui mean by this?
>The editor is just making tsutsui focus on Sensei for a bit so people will buy the volumes
If so then a sensei end would make people buy millions of this series. What's forcing them to make a fumino end then if it will make less money?
I can't wait to see the mental gymnastics in response to this. This thread has been popcorn worthy.
I am ready for the two main heroines to win
the two main heroines of course being Nariyuki and Mafuyu
This will be Masamune all over again
Don't do this to yourself user
>What's forcing them to make a fumino end then if it will make less money?
A few butthurt foompaloompas from Reddit, South America, or both think they can sway 22i.
Itsuki is the main girl and she will win. Quints born on the 5th day of the 5th month and she's the 5th sister. It's just a matter of waiting.
PTA and the Editor in Chief.
Jump.
I know.
I'm rooting for Moeyuki x Truck-kun! I know Truck-kun is gonna win the day!
WSJ like their safe boring ends.
They also like money and milking the fuck out of series.
If we really get season 2 it will probably end at the festival. I'm not really looking forward to it. There are only two Fumino solo chapters before the school festival.
I don't want a 5 end before and now I'm finding myself rooting for her, so good.
>we want less money
That's contradicting the former point
It's still a business who needs to make money by the end of the day, after all.
Right, and I think if they see enough yen signs in a sensei win they'll probably greenlight it.
Abe rules above them and also they have been pushing the after graduation thing in every chapter for the three times now in less then 10 chapters. I don't think anyone would be against it, seeing how he's playing with "dangerous" waters.
Transfer to where Kaguya is being published then.
That's the only way.
Itsuki is literally be the best choice. Just saying.
>Abe
>Having power over conservative moms
She wasn't even that distant from her grandma, they clearly had a decent relationship together, unlike Fumino, who's dad straight up pushed her away.
>how he's playing with "dangerous" waters.
I'm sure he could memorize a 28 day cycle to make sure he's only in there on safe days until the wedding.
>>Having power over conservative moms
Look at Hanae's reaction in chapter 106.
How the fuck did this series get invaded by generalfags
102 is the highest point of the series period, 100 is amazing obviously, then a tie between the Kareego chapter, 106 and Natsumi, and I personally like the mock interview a lot
sensei chapters just keep getting better over time
>I bet Tsutsui will use her arc for Fuminos development instead
He's already doing that starting with last chapter.
Hanae's not a conservative though.
She's prowling for fresh meat herself.
What's going to happen when Ikeda tells Uruka about Sensei calling Kareego realistic?
I was supporting all quints from beginning. But now I have to admit Itsuki winning would be nice.
We're way past scandals triggering.
Fixed
So what, they'd laugh it off and say "well yeah everyone knows they're engaged"?
I don't remember such a beautiful girl going to our school
All those anons with their waifu shit.
They never learn.
>How is Rizu a school idol?
Read the first chapter maybe?
>How is she from an upper class family?
She isn't, I said "a lot"
>How is she distant from her family? She doesn't understand her grandmother, but she's pretty close to everyone else.
I wouldn't say she's too distant from her family either, as I've said; "a lot"
>How is she a Tsundere?
It may be hard to remember due to her being a moeblob character right now but at the beginning she was a textbook tsundere
>She didn't
Pic related
>The only point you have is that she is a caring person deep down, that's not "a lot" you fucking imbecile.
To go back to your post >talented, and beautiful girl who also happens to be a school idol
>>Girl rejects her love interest in MC at first but then slowly realizes her affection for him as the story progresses
>>Doesn't actually want to have the attention she's given and recluses
>Deep down a person who genuinely cares for others
>Usually a tsundere (at the beginning)
There, you read that you retarded ape person? Or are you just gonna reject that she genuinely cares for others? Can't wait to see the mental gymnastics you pull for this one to quote your obvious attempt at samefagging in . I also love you how you just abandoned the main focus of the argument and moved onto just talking about Rizu too so you could get the last word in (seriously I never got why people did this just don't respond back, it's easier). Tell me was that enough to get you angry? Cause I can tell from this post there was already a crazy amount of seetheing so if you're red in the face right now then I have accomplished my goal in this entire last paragraph
Close but no cigar, this is actually fixed.
How much for the whole day?
Does Chizuru wear high school uniforms on her dates?
This is Bokuben, not KanoKari.
There's like three chapters about that.
Why did you post the same picture?
Was she drugged here?
What's with the wide eyes?
Is she trippin'
Cute foom
Pic related isn't rejection, she doesn't even have feelings for him at this point, she's worried that others are going to get the wrong idea. Again, that's NOT rejection.
>Read the first chapter maybe?
Being known as a genius in the school doesn't === being an idol and getting confession letters you retard; did Rizu have her own fan club? No.
>textbook tsundere
Absolute bullshit, she has ALWAYS been way more kuu than she was tsun
>samefag
Delusional
Isn't prostitution illegal in Japan?
I can't wait to see the mental gymnastics in response to this. This thread has been popcorn worthy.
[spoilers] I can do it too btw [/spoilers]
Dorobo neko
And you're the one that switched the argument over to Rizu you moron, making comparisons of the trope to her and Mafuyu instead of sticking to Fumino, which is who I was specifically describing, who is what it was initially about, absolute brainlet tier argument.
Pick-up
Doing the deed
have a Rizu
What, you're actually afraid you might get caught?
A student literally shouted your indecent activities in the middle of the faculty room and no one batted an eye. Another even caught you doing the deed and she didn't rat you out.
You'll be fine with your side job.
Shame that ultimately being a teacher doesn't give a livable wage, huh.
another Rizu
Poutmino is so cute.
A more acceptable fix, damn.
delicious udon
Why are fuminofags so delusional? They are the worst part of the fanbase bar none. Even Urukafags aren't as bad.
watch the shuriken
>samefagging even ironically
Yikes.
short stack hongry
>if you're red in the face right now then I have accomplished my goal in this entire last paragraph
>pretending to be retarded
reverse golf
Best color spread.
All of them are cute here.
Can we try this pose with the other heroines?
See who does it better
>ywn have a hooker for a teacher
Why even live?
Wow!
Why are rizufags so delusional? They are the worst part of the fanbase bar none. Even Mafuyufags aren't as bad.
>Pic related isn't rejection, she doesn't even have feelings for him at this point, she's worried that others are going to get the wrong idea. Again, that's NOT rejection.
Literally in that same chapter she runs yells at him and runs away. Read the chapter as soon as Fumino points it out she rejects it, that's the point
>Being known as a genius in the school doesn't === being an idol and getting confession letters you retard; did Rizu have her own fan club? No.
And you don't need to have a fan club or get confession letters to be the school idol. Everybody knows who she is and she's a genius who is called cute multiple times by her peers
>Absolute bullshit, she has ALWAYS been way more kuu than she was tsun
Nope, if anything Sensei is the kuudere
>Delusional
Yep and isn't me either
Also is that it? You're doing the thing where you ignore most of my points and only respond to a few of them again. Kind of sad, it would've been funny to see the attempt at least. Come on, out on a show
>And you're the one that switched the argument over to Rizu you moron
Nope, try again. I literally argued his (your) point about Fumino and only mentioned Rizu in 1 sentence. He then only made his post about the Rizu part. Don't take my word for it, go back and read the reply chain if you want to see the truth (we know you won't though)
>making comparisons of the trope to her and Mafuyu instead of sticking to Fumino, which is who I was specifically describing, who is what it was initially about, absolute brainlet tier argument.
Sorry bud, maybe the next time you'll get it. She was just a part of my argument, not my whole point. If you read my posts you'll see that my point was about it not just applying to Fumino
No, it's not me I swear!
If you think the point of that was to say that I was pretending to be retarded then I think you should reread
I didn't even know Rizufags existed. She has absolutely no appeal aside from her tits.
!
Why are Ikedafags so delusional? They are the worst part of the fanbase bar none. Even Mizukifags aren't as bad.
jealous imouto disapproves
cute set
t. Urukafag
Why are Kashimafags so delusional? They are the worst part of the fanbase bar none. Even Sawakofags aren't as bad.
This is the ideal female body. You may not like it, but this is what peak Fumino is like.
fetish triggered
Jokes on you, I already like it.
Why are Nariyukifags so delusional? They are the worst part of the fanbase bar none. Even Reijifags aren't as bad.
That's a pretty cute boy
Fumino needs more self-confidence
He does though. Any doki doki sfx from him is a sign he at least had a momentary bout of affection to a particilar girl. Otherwise he keeps romance out of his head.
Do we have an update of the support squad collage?
Wait is someone actually making that? That sounds cool as fuck
>once again all these apply to...
>literally even admitting you've said it multiple times
>She was just a part of my argument, not my whole point.
And what was the point in your comparison? How does your comparison deny that Fumino fits the princess trope? It doesn't, you were clearly trying to steer the argument in a different direction so you could avoid being wrong, because by the definition I gave Fumino fits right in having the same traits as many other romcom main girl princesses.
>And you don't need to have a fan club or get confession letters to be the school idol
Just being well known in a school doesn't make you a school idol, being called cute isn't the same as being idolized. Fumino IS idolized. But you do need to get them to be a princess trope by the definition I gave. You're trying to strawman, you have tried to do that multiple times, brainlet tier argumentation.
>she runs yells at him and runs away
And the story literally explains that she just doesn't understand her feelings later on, that's why she later questions why she acts that way. Not rejection, it's more like being overwhelmed and confused by her own feelings, whereas Fumino clearly has feelings for Nariyuki, understands them and rejects them. Congratulations on being able to cherry pick and completely ignore most of the story.
>ignore most of my points
I touched on the points of your post relevant to the current topic of argument. The ones like her recluding from a princess lifestyle I didn't touch on because it is blatantly false. She is not the school idol and you have said nothing to prove that but
>s-she's been called cute
>s-she's known by her peers
Neither of those are even close to idol level, where the entire school looks up to you, you have your own fanclub, etc. And before you even try, Sawako is a single person, not a club.
what even is that
It's supposed to be the follow up to bokuben where nari is at college with his, then, girlfriend fumino. shenanigans pursue, including A LOT more sensei now that he's no longer a student. constant run ins, etc.
Mafuyu when she sees walking garbage
and believe me she knows a lot about garbage
I want to marry all of them.
why are sensei characters so great these days
One of the very few osananajimi that ended being really likeable.
>hates all other women
>hates most other men
Desperately needs a dick stuffed in her ASAP.
I've already addressed your first 2 questions in my previous posts
>you were clearly trying to steer the argument in a different direction so you could avoid being wrong
No, it was just 1 fucking point. It was literally you who only focused on the Rizu part dumbass
>Just being well known in a school doesn't make you a school idol, being called cute isn't the same as being idolized
She is idolized though. She's refereed to as a genius and an exceptionally cute girl. Even if you want to split hairs about the definition of an idol that's just one of the many points
>brainlet tier argumentation
Irony
>And the story literally explains that she just doesn't understand her feelings later on, that's why she later questions why she acts that way. Not rejection, it's more like being overwhelmed and confused by her own feelings, whereas Fumino clearly has feelings for Nariyuki, understands them and rejects them. Congratulations on being able to cherry pick and completely ignore most of the story.
Sorry if you're little autistic brain can't comprehend that you're rejecting something if you literally lash out and run away from it. She doesn't need to fully understand it for it to be rejecting it, some would argue Fumino didn't understand it either
>I touched on the points of your post relevant to the current topic of argument. The ones like her recluding from a princess lifestyle I didn't touch on because it is blatantly false. She is not the school idol and you have said nothing to prove that but
But you fucking haven't. If you've unironically deluded yourself to the point where you think those huge walls of text are nothing then you're either retarded. If you're just going to quote 2 or 3 parts and call it a day then don't bother replying at all
>Neither of those are even close to idol level, where the entire school looks up to you, you have your own fanclub, etc. And before you even try, Sawako is a single person, not a club.
See above and in my other posts
Mafuyu is for degenerates, student x teacher relationship is a no no.
Aika rocks the flat chest loud and proud
I volunteer
It's like they released all of the cougars from the zoo this season.
Get back to work Mafuyu
Abe-san is solving the cake problem.
Doesn't she always get jealous of Tuaru's chest?
I don't know but it's glorious
b-blunder
That's why his mom said wait until after graduation, Fumino.
stop pushing this crap everywhere
>She is idolized though. She's refereed to as a genius and an exceptionally cute girl.
Lets use the definition here.
>a person or thing that is greatly admired, loved, or revered.
Rizu, while she is well known, has never actually needed to reject advances and popularity. Fumino on the other hand is /worshiped/ by her school, so much so that she even has her own fanclub. Rizu in this case is simply well-known, not an idol, people don't worship her. The only person who truly reveres her is Sawako, and the reverence of one person doesn't make you a school-wide idol.
>Sorry if you're little autistic brain can't comprehend that you're rejecting something if you literally lash out and run away from it
And I'm sorry your little monkey brain can't understand that being confused and overwhelmed by your feelings isn't the same as outright rejecting them. The idea that Fumino, a genius of psychology (someone with a clearly high level of emotional intelligence) wouldn't understand her feelings is complete bullshit. You can try to cherry pick specific scenes, but that's a fallacious argument, it fails to take into context the rest of the story and canon explanations for Rizu's behaviour. Having some tsun tendencies when meeting a boy for the first time doesn't make a character a Tsundere, that's still cherry picking.
Both Mafuyu and Rizu aren't distant from their family; while they have misunderstandings, it's not like they're in a situation where their family is outright rejecting them. Mafuyu's sister makes a conscious effort to see her, Rizu's family in no way rejects her.
Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt and accept the rejection of her feelings, that's still only two points out of the entire definition, that's not "a lot". Fumino on the other hand has pretty much everything, the rejection of feelings for the MC, being idolized by her school and rejecting the popularity, being from an upper-class family, distance from her father, everything.
Stop taking the bait.
>pretending to be retarded
Then literally everyone here wants to fuck a boy
And I would have responded to the other bullshit, but there's such thing as a character limit. My reply touches on pretty much everything in the argument, the point you're trying to make about Rizu/Sensei as well as whether or not Fumino is a princess, so trying to pull the "hurr you didn't respond to everything" card is just going to make you look like a dumbass.
Death to flatties.
Even better. Women comes with unneeded baggages.
Not really. Only flatminofags
>you're rejecting something if you literally lash out and run away from it
What are you smoking? People run away from their feelings all the time because they don't know how to deal with them, not because they're rejecting them.
I mean, have you seen Nariyuki, Kobayashi and Reiji? I would.
imagine the smell
>a person or thing that is greatly admired, loved, or revered
And Rizu is both admired and revered. There are different levels to these things just cause she's not on the level of Fumino doesn't mean it doesn't apply
>overwhelmed by your feelings isn't the same as outright rejecting them
I agreed, it isn't. An overhwlmed person would simply be awkward and try to take a second to think things through before acting irrational, while yelling at the subject of your affections and running away is rejecting
>The idea that Fumino, a genius of psychology (someone with a clearly high level of emotional intelligence) wouldn't understand her feelings is complete bullshit
You do know that psychology is complicated right? Like there are family counselors that have family issues, knowing the science behind it doesn't mean you can control your emotions. It's not like she's entirely unbiased to the issue, it's about her for Christ's sake. How about you provide some evidence that she knew?
>You can try to cherry pick specific scenes, but that's a fallacious argument
Like how you were saying that Fumino would put you on a tight leash because if cherrypicking scenes without actual context in mind?
>Having some tsun tendencies when meeting a boy for the first time doesn't make a character a Tsundere, that's still cherry picking.
Yeah but in her case she was
>Both Mafuyu and Rizu aren't distant from their family
Rizu, sure, but Mafuyu is where I draw the line on retardation. Just cause her sister likes her doesn't mean she doesn't have family issues you fucking retard. Literally go back and reread the manga if you think she doesn't
>Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt and accept the rejection of her feelings, that's still only two points out of the entire definition, that's not "a lot"
Sorry bud but it's more than 2 as much as I know you wanna run away from the argument but it isn't gonna happen if you keep replying to me
>Mafuyu isn't distant from her family
Not him but this is just plain stupid
>And Rizu is both admired and revered.
the definition says /greatly/ admired, loved and revered. The only person who truly reveres her is Sawako, if she were /greatly/ revered she'd have her own fan club like Fumino.
>An overhwlmed person would simply be awkward and try to take a second to think things through before acting irrational, while yelling at the subject of your affections and running away is rejecting
No it isn't, she's clearly just overwhelmed by them, she's not outright rejecting them and saying "I don't have these emotions." Instead she's questioning "Why do I feel this way around Nariyuki". That is NOT rejection.
>You do know that psychology is complicated right? Like there are family counselors that have family issues, knowing the science behind it doesn't mean you can control your emotions. It's not like she's entirely unbiased to the issue, it's about her for Christ's sake. How about you provide some evidence that she knew?
The evidence is circumstantial, but it's still better than outright providing literally fucking nothing like you have.
>Like how you were saying that Fumino would put you on a tight leash because if cherrypicking scenes without actual context in mind?
Like I said earlier, it's based on empirical observation, and Fumino has many different scenes where she shows yan tendencies, not one or two scenes at the beginning of the story you tried to point out.
>Yeah but in her case she was
>was
So she's not a tsundere? Okay, good, we're in agreement.
> Just cause her sister likes her doesn't mean she doesn't have family issues you fucking retard.
Like I already pointed out, just having family issues doesn't mean you're distant from them.. Explain how she is distant from her family, explain how her family REJECTS HER like Fumino's dad does.
>Sorry bud but it's more than 2 as much as I know you wanna run away from the argument but it isn't gonna happen if you keep replying to me
>i-it is because I say it is!
Also you didn't touch on the fact that Rizu doesn't have to reject popularity like Fumino does. For someone who just bitched about not touching on every point you sure are being a hypocritical shit.
Why do you all hate Fumino so much?
>the definition says /greatly/ admired, loved and revered
Sorry bud wrong again. It's greatly admired, loved, OR, revered. Small change but it makes all of the difference. You don't need to be all of those things to qualify, there are levels to this
>she's not outright rejecting them and saying "I don't have these emotions."
Yes she was, read the fucking chapters
>The evidence is circumstantial
So you can't? Good to know
>Like I said earlier, it's based on empirical observation, and Fumino has many different scenes where she shows yan tendencies, not one or two scenes at the beginning of the story you tried to point out.
Except she doesn't and I've disproved these claims in my previous posts, don't just use them again and act like that didn't happen
>So she's not a tsundere? Okay, good, we're in agreement.
I don't think you know what a tsundere is
>Explain how she is distant from her family
I don't know maybe cause she doesn't visit them, call them, and shuts down her sister as soon as she brings them up because of disputes they've had in the past? Sounds pretty fucking distant to me but no, you'll deny it anyway
>>i-it is because I say it is!
No, it's because I've argued it. Try again
Well first lets establish a baseline, how exactly does Fumino reject her popularity?
>For someone who just bitched about not touching on every point you sure are being a hypocritical shit.
I didn't fucking touch on it cause you were never fucking arguing it retard. Notice how I didn't talk about the things you weren't arguing meaningless so that I don't hit post count. I though everybody knew that's how arguments work so some person just doesn't start talking about if the sky is purple but I guess not
Soon
But I love Fumino.
She's the boring girl archetype who wins regardless of her inaction
I dont hate her but...
The fear the pomf.
Fuminofags ruined another thread with their stupid headcanon I see
>wins regardless of her inaction
That would describe every girl though.
>Sorry bud wrong again. It's greatly admired, loved, OR, revered. Small change but it makes all of the difference. You don't need to be all of those things to qualify, there are levels to this
It's still has to be /greatly/, Rizu isn't admired, loved or revered by her entire school, there is no /great/ anywhere in there. Just being known as a genius and that some people think your cute is not evidence of being /greatly/ admired, loved or revered. If we look at any other character in any other series who is considered an idol, they have a fanclub, many people who worship them and /greatly/ revere, love and admire them. Rizu, seems to be the only case of a girl who is considered an idol and does /not/ have a fanclub, who does /not/ have people worship here.
>Yes she was, read the fucking chapters
In which chapter does she state "I don't have these emotions."? The only thing I remember is her contemplating her feelings and why she has them, not outright rejecting them.
>Except she doesn't and I've disproved these claims in my previous posts, don't just use them again and act like that didn't happen
No you didn't, you gave some flaky correlation trying to state that because she quickly comes to understanding that means she doesn't have yan tendencies, and then didn't give any reasoning behind it. That's not refutation in any way, shape or form.
>I don't think you know what a tsundere is
I don't think you do, I don't think anyone in this thread would try to say Rizu is a tsundere and not a tittyblob besides you.
>I didn't fucking touch on it cause you were never fucking arguing it retard.
And yet I gave it as a definition for what constitutes a princess trope
and I mentioned it here
So try again, it was a part of the argument.
Continued
>Well first lets establish a baseline, how exactly does Fumino reject her popularity?
You yourself said she had to tell her fan club to fuck off, and it's noted that she is regularly confessed to and rejects those advances. Does Rizu have to tell anyone but perhaps Sawako to stop revering her? Is there anyone but Sawako that canonically reveres and admires her displayed in-story?
I don't think she deserves to win but I don't hate her.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter how hard you try to argue this, Fumino fits the trope perfectly; she is your classic romcom main girl, the princess from an upper-class family with daddy issues who constantly gets confessed to and rejects those confessions, the girl with her own fan club who denies her popularity. She's the girl who slowly comes to realize that she likes MC after a long build-up instead of being immediately head over heels like her common rival the childhood friend who she can commonly be found helping hookup with MC until she realizes her mistake and maximum drama ensues before she finally wins. There are so many girls like this in romances, so many stories that include this that it is undeniably a classic trope, and Fumino is one of those girls. While the other girls might share similar traits, they certainly don't fill it almost perfectly like Fumino does. You can't disprove this, no matter how hard you try, because it is a literal depiction of Fumino in every single way. Fumino is as generic as they come. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's a trope for a reason, because people enjoy it.
They fear the Foom.
What the fuck is this argument about
tl;dr
I don't hate Fumino, but her character is just incredibly overdone, we've seen it so many times before that it's just easy to want some other girl to win. Also washboard jokes will never get old.
This but don't say it.
One user is trying to refute the idea that Fumino is a classic trope and got buttmad after another user called her frigid and that she would probably be a bad wife. Maximum butthurt ensued and this is what we ended up with.
Can you post an example of other characters like Fumino?
>Rizu isn't admired, loved or revered by her entire school
If you actually don't think the genius who can go to universities and instantly solve complicated problems isn't greatly admired then you're retarded. There are fucking examples in the first chapter of it happening, do you thin those scenes were drawn for nothing
>If we look at any other character in any other series who is considered an idol, they have a fanclub, many people who worship them and /greatly/ revere, love and admire them
But it's not necessary. You're the one who bought up the definition idiot and it applies. Get the fuck over it
>In which chapter does she state "I don't have these emotions."?
Look at the page I posted earlier, she's literally going full denial mode
>No you didn't, you gave some flaky correlation trying to state that because she quickly comes to understanding that means she doesn't have yan tendencies
Because that's not how Yandere's are. Her getting mad at him for looking perverted and then instantly forgiving him is not Yandere behavior. I don't think you know what a Yandere is either
>I don't think you do, I don't think anyone in this thread would try to say Rizu is a tsundere and not a tittyblob besides you
She's a moeblob now but at the start of the series she wasn't
>And yet I gave it as a definition for what constitutes a princess trope
Do you really not fucking understand? I said she fit that category and you never said otherwise so I thought you didn't have a qualm with that point. That's how arguments work
>You yourself said she had to tell her fan club to fuck off, and it's noted that she is regularly confessed to and rejects those advances
And how is that rejecting her popularity? She literally lets them take pictures of her, just telling them not to do do anything crazy isn't rejecting her popularity
>Is there anyone but Sawako that canonically reveres and admires her displayed in-story?
Reiji is the first thing that comes to mind
And it all started with a post claiming Asumi would be the best wife. Hilarious
Cool now explain how that means she has mentality of being a princess and how that means she'd use it to abuse Nariyuki and make him submit to her like you claim
No baseless assumptions please
>she'd use it to abuse Nariyuki and make him submit to her
God, I wish that were me.
I LOVE Fumino.
Based Rizu.
What the fuck caused all the essays?
Like I already stated, it's based on my own empirical observation from dating girls with traits similar to Fumino, as well as her yan side. While she isn't a full yan (and I never said she was), I just can't see Fumino being anything else, she's the kind of girl that would take you shopping and immediately give you that yan look any time you even so much as glanced at another girl, and would have a hard time being challenged in conversation.
Autism.
summer fags
All this shit just to say that everything came from your ass?
user, I said the exact same thing shortly into the conversation. You're the one that got buttmad over my opinion.
All I wanted was for other people to express why they think their best girl or the girls in the series would also make a great housewife. I really wasn't expecting it to devolve this far.
Or maybe I was
>Like I already stated, it's based on my own empirical observation from dating girls with traits similar to Fumino
They're clearly not similar to Fumino because there's no reason to assume she would act like that
>yan side
She doesn't have one. Getting angry doesn't = yandere
>she's the kind of girl that would take you shopping and immediately give you that yan look any time you even so much as glanced at another girl, and would have a hard time being challenged in conversation.
That's what I'm talking about though. There is absolutely no basis for that assumption. I'll repeat the example of talking about how Asumi would fuck your dad out of nowhere
There's a difference between educated guesses and just full blown out of nowhere assumptions that make literally zero sense
You all need to get laid. Me included.
Why not? Isn't this like the 2nd most popular romcom after Kaguya? Why say no to more moolah?
One word: Gotoubun
>see walls of essay text
>instinctively ignore it and don't read what they are discussing
>proceed to take it easy
Be like me.
Giving someone a cold stare like "I'm going to kill you" when something questionable or a misunderstanding happens constitutes yan tendencies. Like I just stated, I don't think she's a full blown yandere, just that she has yan tendencies. You're blowing the remark out of proportion, and I won't argue this with you.
>There's a difference between educated guesses and just full blown out of nowhere assumptions that make literally zero sense
They don't make sense to you, because you haven't made the same empirical observations I have.
I'm not the user you were talking to, It's kind of hard to follow walls of text and not skipping them because you think you have already read them. It's still sad that all this authism was caused by your headcanon and let's be frank here, you haven't dated a girl like Fumino, hell I don't think you have dated a girl at all, you're on Yea Forums.
>you're on 4channel dot org
>I have to project my own loneliness onto you because you also visit this site
Believe it or not, there's a crossover between /fit/ and Yea Forums, and it's not that hard to hook up with other people in the community if you go to conventions. Not everyone on this board is a lonely, hopeless wizard; the site has been around for nearly two decades now, it's not unthinkable with such a large user base that maybe, just maybe, some of those people have led relatively normal lives.
Why do you all hate Uruka so much?
Dumber than a flightless bird.
She's a waste of time. She should've not existed at all and her screen time should've been given to develop other girls.
We love Uruka actually, her fanbase is just kind of annoying.
She's a shoujo heroine stuck in a shonen romcom
Nah.
I don't like niggers.
I hate her cowardice.
You do you man.
>Giving someone a cold stare like "I'm going to kill you" when something questionable or a misunderstanding happens constitutes yan tendencies. Like I just stated, I don't think she's a full blown yandere, just that she has yan tendencies.
But it's not the cold "I' gonna kill you" stare, it's just her being mad, y'know, like any normal person
>They don't make sense to you, because you haven't made the same empirical observations I have.
Are you saying I've never dated crazy girls? Of course I have but you probably won't believe me no matter what I say. So I'm gonna point to the character's monologue and thought process to see whether it matches any description of crazy. Which it doesn't. There's no connection at all, it's retarded to project your ex-girlfreinds on characters for such dumb reasons
>you haven't dated a girl like Fumino
Literal
Cool, but his statement about you not dating a girl like Fumino still stands. I recommend you reread this manga cause you clearly don't understand her character
Only Fuminofags hate Uruka
>like any normal person
user, no normal person stares at another human being like that, even when angry. Generally in manga, they furrow their brow and look disappointed. Not go wide eyed with a blank stare and have dialogue bubbles with sHaKy tExt tHaT LooKs LikE tHiS. That's a clear indicator of yan.
We're talking about Uruka not asumi
...
Not that user, but it's a romcom, so most expressions are exaggerated heavily. Please stop taking them as MuH InDiCaToR.
It's a cartoon, it's fucking exaggerated. Do you think that Chitoge can launch people across the city in one punch too? That's dumb. Also even if it wasn't exaggerated that's not what fucking Yandere means and literal no indication that she would abuse or make you submit to her
she's the girl nobody but fuminofags wants to win
The ABF's have gotten so testy lately
Show me one panel where Asumi or Uruka have a reaction like that out of anger.
She also has yan tendencies.
It is an indicator, read more romcoms and roms in general.
>crazy girl
The girl I dated wasn't crazy, she was generally kind, from an upper class family and fairly popular, an attitude similar to Flatmino's, and also had daddy issues. She was also a washboard. Obviously, her personality isn't exactly on par with Washboard-san, because she's a manga character, but it's similar enough that I can project the same traits onto her. Like I stated earlier, it's empirical, you can disagree with me all you want, it's not going to change the way I look at her because of the flags she raises for me.
fuck off with that shitty meme
Itsuki will win.
You actually hate flat girls because that girl you "dated" rejected you, right?
>she would abuse or make you submit to her
I never mentioned anything about abuse, being on a tight leash also doesn't mean you're completely submissive to her. Again, you're blowing the remark out of proportion, I'm not stating she's a yandere, just that she has yan tendencies, which literally just means shes overly aggressive in her reactions sometimes. It doesn't mean she's a homicidal maniac that's going to beat the shit out of you for looking at other girls, just that she likely wouldn't be able to deal with it very well. Like I also stated, you could still have a relationship with her even if you weren't a submissive person, but that I think she would be best in a relationship with that type of person.
No, I actually love DFC because I dated that girl, it gave me an appreciation for the figure I never had before. Asumi isn't exactly a titty monster, you know.
>anons knowing about realationships.
Don't know, sounds kinda fake.
Stop projecting.
I thought we were all incels here.
she's Uruka 2.0
she's Uruka