Today’s(Jun. 25 ’19) minutes of general meeting of shareholders in TV Tokyo

Abstract(especialy, Q&A session)
-Q1:Tatsuki, a scriptwriter of the animation “Kemono Friends”, said “I have not been deposited script fee and royalty, yet”. When “Kemono Friend” started, the scriptwriter is Shigenori Tanabe in name, but now, Tatsuki, officially. Despite this fact, isn’s it a violation of the Subcontract Act that you have not pay those costs to Tatsuki?
A1:In the cases “script royality” and “secondary use of works”, We’re paying the fee for them, according to the contract.(Where? Whom? If they paid to the company “Age Global Networks” which Tanabe belongs, that’s a problem.)
-Q2:Originally, ”Kemono Friends Ⅱ” the animation was requested to be produced by Tatsuki. But according to Yoshitada Fukuhara, an anime producer, suddenly, Kemono Friends Project(=KFP), the committee making the anime “Kemono Friend”, told Tatsuki to leave the role of producing “Kemono Friends Ⅱ”,during producing it. Is that case also a violation of the Subcontract Act or Antitrust Law?(Note: In Sep. 25, 2017, TV Tokyo annouced Yaoyosozu, a company of CG anime creation, offered to decline the anime production, in Aug.)
A2:It’s the consensus of KFP to change the producer and that’s very common in anime industry.

I wrote what I wanted to convey to you anime fans in haste
Honestly, I disappointed to hear this report
I’m Japanese, I’ve never visited here, and I’m not good at typing in English. So,probably it’s hard to read, and then I cannot talk to you smoothly in this site.
If you want to know details of general meeting, please visit this blog.
michsuzuki.hatenablog.com/entry/2019/06/25/063229 (This site is written in Jananese)

I'm sorry to create the same thread in Cosplay/EGL territory... X(

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and a stockholder's question

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Tl;dr version?

Pls translate.

Tatsuki's suffering will never end

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in short, TV tokyo did not pay Kemono Friends' sciript fee and royalties, and recognize that subcontract law violation is common thing in animation industry.

Tatsukifag please, I'll spell it out for you.

1.TV Tokyo payed the fees to the respecting party(s), if Tatsuki didn't get it that means whoever got payed did not give Tatsuki any, his and their problem not TV Tokyo's.

2. TV Tokyo has the right to hire whoever they want since they also have some I.P. rights I assume and they payed their royalty and secondary use fees.
Kadokawa is also the reason TV Tokyo can do this since Kadokawa has the most I.P. % in KF
Tatsuki and Yao productions were payed to make the series, that does not give them any rights over the series except some character designs.

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tatsuki already won, his own anime was hit and kemono s2 bombed

You mean TV Tokyo is not necessary to pay fee to a scriptwriter, right?

They said they are paying them, tatsuki needs to look at his contracts if he isn't getting money.

But, TV Tokyo didn't express they paid fee to Yao in this meeting. You have any evidence?

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No but they paid someone and no legal trouble has been confirmed.
Maybe yao should take a closer look at their contract.

Iwata's whereabouts are unknown until today, aren't it?

 2年前に放送された「けものフレンズ」で監督を務めた尾本達紀さんが昨年9月「脚本料や脚本印税を一円ももらっていない」と発言しています。「けものフレンズ」の脚本担当者は放送開始時には「田辺茂範」名義でしたが,2017年5月26日に「たつき」名義へ変更されています。脚本担当者と認めたにもかかわらす,脚本料や,2017年8月の再放送やあにてれ配信などのニ次使用に係る脚本印税等について,報酬を支払わないのは,下請法禁止事項の「買い叩き行為」等に該当していませんか。
 また.本年1月から3か月間放送された続編「けものフレンズ2」の制作は本来前作から引き続いて尾本達紀さんに依頼されていたのですが,尾本達紀さんが所属するアニメスタジオの福原慶匡(よしただ)プロデューサーによれば,制作途上の2017年8月.テレビ東京も参加している製作委員会から,具体的理由の告知なしに突然降板を宣告されたそうです。このように一方的な「けものフレンズ2」制作からの解任は独占禁止法禁止事項の「優越的地位の濫用」や,下請法禁止事項の「不当な給付内容の変更」等に該当していませんか。
尾本達紀さんに対するテレビ東京の処遇は妥当なのか,違法性の有無も含めて見解を御教示願います。
 このような質問をさせて頂いた理由を補足させて下さい。今,アニメ番組の制作現場は著しく劣悪な環境におかれています。先ほどの尾本達紀さんのように,ろくな報酬も与えられず,突然仕事を取り上げられたりする。後任のアニメ製作所も納期を繰り上げられ連日連夜の激務の末に病気で入院した社員もいたと聞き及んでおります。【アニメのテレ東】と呼ばれるほどアニメ番組を大事に守ってきたはすのテレビ東京が,クリエイターを搾取し,使い捨てている事実は遺憾というほかありません。
 尾本達紀さんは「けものフレンズ2」の仕事を打ち切られた後,失意のあまり筆を折ろうかとすら思ったそうですが,外資系企業のアマゾンと協力して「ケムリクサ」というアニメを「けものフレンズ2」と同時期に放送配信しました。アニメ番組の人気の尺度のひとつにプルーレイディスクの売り上げがありますが,「ケムリクサ」の1枚目はヒット作と言。ていい水準の15000枚以上売れています。対して尾本達紀さんが抜けた「けものフレンズ2」はオリコンチャートによれば1枚目第1週が僅か458枚,ここに計上されない枚数もあるそうですが明らかに大差が0いた。実力のある尾本達紀さんを「けものフレンズ2」から追放したテレビ東京の経営判断には到底共感できかねますが,それより私が懸念するのは,才能ある日本のクリエイターが今後外資系企業に流出するのではないかということです。正当な地位や対価を与えられなかった研究者や技術者が海外引き抜かれ,日本の工業界が技術開発力を失い、始めているのと構図が似てはいないでしょうか。このままでは日本のアニメ産業空洞化しないでしょうか。そうなればテレビ東京の経営に関わります。けものフレンズ2事案でテレビ東京の信頼感が揺らいでいる視聴者も少ならす存在します。【アニメのテレ東】だからこそクリエイターをもっと大事にして下さい。 
by OCR Software
Please translate and read that

Even if yao make sure that contract, what they understand? tell me about plz.
I think it's problem that TV Tokyo didn't explain "whom" they paid fee to, isn't it?
I grasped TV Tokyo had paid somewhere.

in haste, translation by Google(inb4 tl;dr)

Tatsunori Omoto, who directed the "Kemono Friends" broadcasted two years ago, said in September last year that "I have not received a script fee or a screenplay tax as much as one yen." At the beginning of the broadcast, the screenplay person in charge of "Kemono Friends" was named "Masanori Tanabe", but on May 26, 2017, it has been changed to "Tatuki". Despite the recognition as a person in charge of screenplays, it is not subject to the subcontract law prohibition matters that no fee is paid for screenplay charges and script royalties pertaining to secondary use such as rebroadcasting in August 2017 or delivery in August 2017. Do you not correspond to "buying act" etc?
Also, the production of the sequel "Kemono Friends 2", which was broadcasted for three months from January this year, was originally requested by Tatsunori Omoto to continue from the previous work, but an animation studio to which Taki Omoto belongs According to the producer of Yoshihara Fukuhara (Yitada), the production committee in August 2017 on the way of production was suddenly sentenced to be dismounted without notification of a specific reason from the production committee in which TV Tokyo is also participating. In this way, dismissal from one-sided "Kemono Friends 2" production falls under "abuse of superior status" of antitrust matters, "unfair change of benefit contents" of subcontract law prohibited matters, etc. Is it not?
Please tell us your opinion on whether TV Tokyo's treatment of Tatsunori Omoto is appropriate, including whether it is illegal or not.
Please let me supplement the reasons for asking such questions.

Now, the production site of animation programs is in a remarkably poor environment. Like Mr. Tatsunori Omoto, I was taken away from work suddenly without being given some kind of reward. I have heard that the successor anime factory has also advanced the delivery date, and some employees have been hospitalized for illness after hard work on consecutive nights. Has been carefully protected the animation program so that it is called [Anime TV East], but there is no other than the fact that TV Tokyo has exploited the creators and is throwing it away.
Mr. Taki Omoto, after having quit the work of Kemono Friends 2, even thought that he would break the brush with a lot of frustration, but he cooperated with the foreign-owned company Amazon to make an animation called "Cemricusa" The broadcast was distributed at the same time as Kemono Friends 2. One of the popular measures of anime shows is the sale of plou ray discs, but the first piece of "Cemrica" is said to be a hit. It sells more than 15,000 pieces of good standard. On the other hand, "Kemono Friends 2", which Omoto Tatsuki dropped out, had only 458 pieces in the first week of the 1st sheet according to the Oricon chart, and there was a number that was not included here, but the difference was clear zero. Although I can not agree with the management judgment of TV TOKYO which banished the talented Mr. Omoto from "Kemono Friends 2", I am concerned that the talented Japanese creators will be a foreign-funded company in the future It is said that it may be spilled into the Researchers and engineers who did not receive a fair position or compensation were withdrawn overseas, and the Japanese industrial industry lost its ability to develop technology, and would it be similar in composition to the beginning.

If this continues, will Japan's animation industry be hollowed out? If so, I will be involved in the management of TV Tokyo. There will be fewer viewers whose TV Tokyo's credibility is shaken by kemono friends 2 incidents. [Animation tele east] That's why please make the creators more important.

Who do I blame?

to Japan Consumer Agency and Fair Trade Commission.
But, It's not sure if a contract exists or not, so I encourage you to ask Consumer Agency that fee and royalty might have been paid to AGN instead of Yao, that misleading representation.
When you ask Fair Trade Commission, explain TV Tokyo may not have paid fee & royalty to Yao, and then It is doubtful whether there is a contract.
When you post them, explain the fact as mild as possibly.

I apologize to you for my Insufficient explanation and ugly Engrish...

Normally in Japan, a general meeting lasts from 1hour to 3hours or longer.
But, this meeting was closed in less than 50 minutes forcibly...

Your english is fine.
Tatsuki will probably have an eternal cult following regardless of what he does now, They fucked him over so bad that most of the KF fan base sided with him so he's probably chill now.

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Considering that Tatsuki got basically cult status for now, isn't it going to hurt them in the long run?

Karma is real.

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Now, please tell us. Was it worth it?

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The more Tatsuki makes good anime like Kemurikusa, the more suffer anime industry officials who hate. I have heard they are the members of present KF project team.

That is the problem, both Tatsuki and Yaoyorozu got royally fucked thanks to dishonest technicalities abused to their heart's contents by KFP.
In one hand Yaoyorozu was contracted to work only on making an anime so they were given creative liberty, but zero IP rights over the franchise, so that means zero royalties and the possibility to be kicked out on whatever moment and for whatever reason without compensation.
Then on the other hand Tatsuki was hired originally as the director and Tanabe as the writer, but Tatsuki instead took by himself the work of the writer, so Tanabe did not get to work, so basically KFP is brushing off Tatsuki like saying: "Well, we contracted him to work as a director, not as a writer, then that is his problem, not our problem".
Also, I wonder if that "unanimity" they talk about is a real "unanimity" or more like Kadokawa, TV Tokyo and AGN throw their weight on the committee so they rest of companies could only comply with the wishes of the three big names. At then that would be an unanimity, but a forced unanimity to be more honest to the true

When is the Cemrica morning broadcast happening?

Blames for TV Tokyo? or, KF2?
The former is Yes, Continual inquiring has revealing TV Tokyo's poor self-cleaning?(they didn't have system to eliminate staff with problems)
The latter is No, You might as well watch a cartoon making you laugh as watch KF2

No, I was talking about TV Tokyo.
I'm wondering if they think that the massive backlash that followed was well worth it. All of it could have been avoided easily

It seems they are not too interested on changing the air time of Kemurikusa, for example, a TV channel on Hokkaido Prefecture will rebroadcast the series starting on July, but it will do it on the late night time like they did on the first broadcast.

I do not understand what merits TV Tokyo obtained at that backlash...

To think of themselves as some sort of indomitable company that will not surrender to even the greatest backlash.

>we're going according to the contract!
>but other people violate contracts all the time so it's fine that we did it

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If I were a member of TV Tokyo, immediately apologize to stockholders for the fact that back pay. Now, even if they do this, I think it's too late.

_ ____ __ ____ ________.

It can't be helped.

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Curiously enough the stock of TV Tokyo went down after the meeting and the people on Twitter did not take kindly the shortness and unilateral feel of the meeting.

Why would you want to do that to a pure girl like her?

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Very good.

Can't any of these guys afford lawyers? I guess not, since they're not getting paid.

>Japan's animation industry will be hollowed out
can you epxlain this a bit more?

the last guy who tried to lawyer up re KFP had to hospitalize himself due to a sudden onset of Spontaneous Exploding Kneecap Syndrome

He's just a doomposter, muh animator wages and the company making money.

>DOOMposting
But where's the RIP N TEAR? where's the DOOT?

Fukuhara did participante on talks to solve the problem, but then at the end of December he announced that they did not find a solution to the problem.
Some days after they announced Kemurikusa, so it seems that they tried first to solve the problem with talks, but then those talks came to nothing, so instead they changed the focus from "get back to KF" to "work on Kemurikusa".

They probably can now thanks to Kemurikusa, but it's too late at this point to do much aside from getting money, and with the Yakuza shit going on it's too risky. I'd rather they just stay safe and spend money on their next show

The problem is that we are talking about big companies like TV Tokyo and Kadokawa, so you would need to get the best Japanese lawyers to win the case, because those companies will throw to you their legal teams. And even if Tatsuki and Fukuhara win the case, then you have the idiots like the Mafures and the Reddit/Discird crow spitting nonsense like that Tatsuki and Fukuhara are only a bunch of resentful gold diggers that are only after the money and do not care about the franchise. So it is better to left the past stay as the past.

>nonsense like that Tatsuki and Fukuhara are only a bunch of resentful gold diggers that are only after the money and do not care about the franchise
This is correct though, they think they own the franchise when they were just hired to make the anime.

based

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Yup. It would cause attacks by those idiots defending KF2, take too much effort, and given the people fucking disappearing it's best they just continue doing their own thing

Tatsuki is my waifu

Care to share anything else from your mind reading experience?

>A2:It’s the consensus of KFP to change the producer and that’s very common in anime industry.
But is it common to make a sequel whose sole purpose is just to shit on the original?

Tatsuki is cute and a hero

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Then, you are talking bullshit. If they were really gold diggers or thought of themselves as the owners of the franchise, then they would have started a lawsuit on the same day the news went viral and then they would have cried for money to their fans to help to finance the lawsuit on the Japanese equivalent of a GoFundMe.
Instead what you got was Fukuhara sitting on talks until the end of December, so that was like nearly three months and since September 25th they have been mostly silent, only talking when there was no more option than to talk and when they talk they do it with politeness and diplomacy, not like KFP that they were even willing to throw partners like Nissin and JRA under the bus, to the point those two went out and said that they were not involved on that problem.
The only thing they were seeking was to be treated fairly because they were treated like the trash you throw to a bin, besides the point that they were the ones saving the franchise.

>actually care about the franchise
>barely get paid but continue to be dedicated and work very hard on KF
>only mistake was trying to stop it from going in a stupid direction
I still don't get how people view Tatsuki as the one who did wrong

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He seemed so happy when S2 was first announced, I'm pretty sure he doesn't really care about money and just wants to create things.

He really seemed to love KF, it's sad that his work led to him being separated from it. I'm glad he at least gets to continue doing the thing he loves, though it would have been nice if he didn't get fired. His actions show how much he enjoys making anime and how hard he's willing to work.
If everything were perfect, he could have taken a break from KF to make Kemurikusa too, allowing both KF2 and KK to exist in the same world.

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bump

For fuck sake's.

No user, Tatsuki's mistake was having success. They only gave the series to him because they expected it to bomb, but it didn't and you know everything that happened afterwards.
I guess that's why S2 is such a mess too.

I wish they would have just accepted it and allowed it to succeed with Tatsuki instead

That would have been nice, they probably could have earned a lot from it too

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I would understand this better as a 90 minute long niconico video with Tohou faces reading the transcripts in Monotone vocaloid voices

good attempt

I just want these three to be happy

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He had been trying to get a new contract since KF2 was announced in June (or was it July?) By the time 9/25 happened talks had already broken down. There was no further negotiation.

From what I heard they had the greenlight to work on KF2 before even the first season ended (March 2017) but something happened around August where the production committee said they didn't want to work with YYZ any more.

Thank you very much for taking the time to tell us about this.

What about these three?
>everything was already in place for KF2 before the people in charge suddenly changed their mind
No matter how minor, every new detail about the incident I learn makes me angrier.

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I liked KF season 1, but the original Kemurikusa short didn't interest me at all. Should I give the Kemurikusa series a shot?

Maybe KF really was a money laundering scheme, but the success of the first season made it too hard to get away with.

The old short isn't for everyone, but the new version is comfy and really fun, especially if you liked KF. The few that complain are typically people who can't handle males in anime
I wonder if it is, that's the only reason that I can think of that would explain their stupid decisions aside from jealousy and huge amounts of greed. They could have had so much money by allowing KF to stay alive, I can't think of many reasons why they would try to kill it for good.

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I don't understand anything but what are the chances of Tatsuki coming back to handle S3?

Why are hard-bodied, small tittied oni so sexual?

Look at this chara "Gomakuso", and save ur mind and brain from something evil.

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>ugly engrish
I've seen worse from literal Americans
I hope the fear of "gaijin companies taking over our anime" finally makes the industry shape up and reform

Probably 0, the KFP staff and Mine don't want to admit they did the wrong thing or give closure by saying what actually happened and the lewd oni probably wouldn't want to go back to the people that hurt him anyways. Maybe if they gave him KF as a whole but otherwise I doubt it.
Tatsuki wants to please all his fans, and a body like that which he gives to so many girls helps.
What a lewd, dumb bird

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I want to do really lewd things to Tatsuki and Isa

Some sort of The Producers scheme, they create expenses to end up in different taxation brackets. Except it becomes a phenomenon and they have to pay more taxes. Money rolls in, just in the wrong end and untaxed.

What has the poor man do to get this shit?

You shouldn't lewd the irodori crew!
He made a throwaway show successful and loved, and apparently that's bad

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He put additional effort past what the shitty contract mandated into a stillborn franchise and after it made a crazy amount of money he wanted a bit better of a deal. And after officially recieving acknowledgement for the writing work he did he was not paid for it. What a greedy man right?

Nah, the bigger a franchise it the easier it is to pull a money laundering scheme. Money laundering is about putting illegally obtained money into a big production where you loop it around and pay it back to yourself in some way after convoluting its paper trail. The bigger and more complicated the project the easier it is to do this.

Apparently, the illustrator for KF novel haven't been paid either for his works.
otakomu.jp/archives/18528006.html

Is this like kadokawa getting #metoo-ed?

Jesus what the fuck is wrong with them

Their greed is infinite

Thank you friend.

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Thi's TVTokyo General meeting of shareholders Hidden recording

ttps://youtu.be/QDUln_S4jUg
ttp://nico.ms/sm35315202?cp_webto=share_others_androidapp

Do we have sales figures for the KF2 OST and character song album yet?

TVTokyo no 

1期........... 2期
27197.......1363 けもフレCS
24948....... 675 けもフレOST

Holy fuck, not even the music of KF2 is close to the music sales of KF1, although those two new albums have still higher sales than the KF2 Blu-rays.
I was talking some days ago about Kemofure staying alive thanks to the voice actresses and the fan community, but if both the BDs and the music are not selling so well, then from where the fuck they are getting the money to avoid getting on red numbers.

One more bullet point to the long list of times when KFP and related companies violated the law.
Funny enough, they have already emailed the artist saying they are sorry, so it seems they are currently really scared of getting on legal troubles so they are reacting more swiftly than normal.

The third volume, the last one, will be released on July 26th with episodes 9-12 and with a price of 7560 yen (70,21 USD, 61,80 EUR).

This volume is loaded with a long list of extras, both on disc and on package, so behold it:

On package extras:

-A special box to store all the three Blu-ray volumes

-A Rin promotion card of the anime trading card game Precious Memories.

-An irodori-like booklet with 20 B5 size pages featuring interviews to Director Tatsuki, Animation Director Isa Yoshihisa and Art Director Shirouzu Yuuko, plus art and setting material.

On disc extras:

Video extras:

-No credits opening version 2

-No credits opening version 3

-No credits ending version 2

-No credits ending version 3

Audio extras:

-Audio commentary track from the staf: Director Tatsuki, Animation Director Isa Yoshihisa and Art Director Shirouzu Yuuko. Same for all the episodes.

-Audio commentary tracks from the cast:

-Episode 09: Nojima Kenji (Wakaba), Mimura Yuuna (Ryou), Sekine Akira (Ryouku)

-Episode 10: Komatsu Mikako (Rin/Riri), Kiyoto Arisa (Ritsu), Sumi Tomomi Jiena (Rina)

-Episode 11: Komatsu Mikako (Rin/Riri), Kenji Nojima (Wakaba)

-Episode 12:

-Audio commentary track from the cast No. 1: Komatsu Mikako (Rin/Riri), Kiyoto Arisa (Ritsu), Sumi Tomomi Jiena (Rina), Kenji Nojima (Wakaba)

-Audio commentary track from the cast No. 2: Mimura Yuuna (Ryou), Amasawa Kanna (Riku), Sekine Akira (Ryouku)

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The special box to store all the three Blu-ray volumes.

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Ouch. Totally expected but still ouch.

I would be funny if the Kemurikusa Music Collection Album sells much higher than those two albums together, even though we need to have in mind that with Kemurikusa they are not pushing hard with the music, meanwhile you have Kemofure pushing very hard with the music and the voice actresses and they still sell that low.

Truly the shitstorm that keeps on giving.

Three years of this shit being dragged out.

Nice.

They are happy, S2+ is non canon. The original creators didn't make it.

Someone give me the too long didn't read version of all this kf drama.

I can make an updated version of this one but I am too tired today

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Jealous IP creator irritated that guy uses his IP infinitely better than he did. After the IP is literally revived from death by this work into a literal world-wide phenomenon tier massive success, the people responsible are, basically, "fired".

There that really is it. Note this is technically speculation, but there's a lot of very unsubtle insinuations that the biggest instigator, if not sole instigator of the whole mess was this fuck

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This is how Kaban will slowly lose her identity.

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isn't it less "slowly lose herself to becoming a clone of Mirai" and more "slowly begin to resemble Mirai more"

She's still losing an aspect of her identity either way.

getting older and looking different is not "losing an aspect of your identity", fuck off Peter Pan

besides, she looks cute

kemono-friendsch.com/archives/85737
A second artist has come out saying he was mistreated when working on a Kemofure anthology.

Why did her hair turn from green to black to green?

Mine is convinced she should have green hair
Tatsuki gave her black hair in the first anime

Cool fanfiction, user. You should post it on fanfiction.net

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poor fucks

The first comment on the publication I linked:
"Are there no decent members of society at KADOKAWA?"
Yes, it seems that to work with KFP or at Kadokawa or TV Tokyo or AGN you need to be the worst motherfucker possible

He's got his weed anime, he doesn't need fucking Kadokawa.

>KF was literally anime The Producers

Well, you have Yoshizaki Mine fucking Kaban, Tatsuki's daughter, as if she were the main girl on a soul crushing hentai manga

Did anyone make a pastebin translation for the vol 2 booklet? Haven't checked the threads in months.

As far I know the second volume booklet does not have interviews, it does only have art and setting material. Besides, the user that did the photos of the booklet and the rip of the audio and video of the first volume was having problems with its order on Amazon, so I do not know if he has already solved that problem or if he is still battling with the customer service of Amazon Japan.

In a follow-up post the guy seems to reveal that people in the business just seem to be sick of Kemono Friends as an IP and all the baggage and drama surrounding it.