The Title Is Literally a Description of the Manga's Premise In a Long-ass Sentence Instead of an Actual Title?!

So you can pick things by their cover and title

the market in narou is tough, so you pretty much have to do that shit.

Eh, I don't know if it's "inferior", but I get the feel the author is compromising to get some sales instead of taking a risk and having a memorable title.

I mean, even with that practice , eventually there will be so many similar titles that they will start to overlap (already kinda happening, I guess) and even that kind of titling process won't save your series, unless it's great.

But the title gets shortened to a catchy term anyway.
That's kind of how that stuff works.

Long title, so you know what you get, And a shortened nick if you want to talk about it with other people.

>manga
You're thinking of LN and manga adaptations of LN for the most part.

Nao is my wife.

LN are cancer and need to die.
Is it so hard to write real books?

They are real books. You just don't see that trash being popular in the west because in the west brainlets don't read so most of them are failures.

I once worked part time in a book store and was in charge of the youth literature department.

That's some high level trash.

>They are real books.
Hardly. They're held to significantly lower standard because of their label as "light novels", as opposed to normal novels that aren't expected to be trite. I'm not quite sure how come people reading them aren't considered to be the plebeians they are, though; one would imagine that being unable to comprehend normal writing above grammar school level would be looked down upon.

Bases

No she's mine

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That's because it tells you that you don't need to know thousands of obscure kanji to read them. That doesn't mean the plot is trash, but most writers write shitty uninspired plots in order to get money.

At the current age, Verne's books could easily pass as light novels but no one says he is writing trash just because he didn't have dozens of copycats trying to get on the trend.

That's the thing, though. Being easy to read is fine, but being a completely unoriginal derivation of the n-th order regurgitating the same plot and characters but with a slightly different hair color is not, yet people still eat it all up. In the west, unoriginal books tend to be dismissed as the trash they are.

>In the west, unoriginal books tend to be dismissed as the trash they are.

What are young novels then? And please don't you try and tell me they are any more original than light novel.

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>And please don't you try and tell me they are any more original than light novel.
Compared to the 60th generic annual isekai, yes, they are, and significantly so.
Of course, the top light novels are better than the worst western novels, young adult or otherwise. However, even the utter trash of bestsellers we have (consider e.g. Twilight, which was about as bad as it gets) is not so utterly devoid of innovation as so many light novels I've read or heard of.

>Twilight, which was about as bad as it gets
Twilight was far from the worst rubbish published.

What were worse bestsellers?
Genuine question, I want to look into them. Haven't really been following modern book scene for a few years now.

Twilight is a masterpiece compared to a lot of the trash called YA

Wait, Japan does not know what a synopsis is?

Imagine having to pick the book up and read tiny letters instead of just glancing at the cover and instantly knowing the entirety of its story

Blame Oreimo

Narou is not a market, it's a dumping ground. Occasionally you'll find a gem or two among the rotting trash.

the comet?
based and redpiled my man

what if the title is so long the letters have to be tiny so that they can all fit?

Just replace half of the story with filler and the title will accordingly get shorter

I wanna fuck Charlotte

They would use short names if they made money

Have you ever published a fiction book? how did it do?

You actually need a marketing book, because you seem to think that bad stories can't sell

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The average LN consumer is just that braindead and couldn't understand the title otherwise

English literature used to be that way. For instance: Travels into Several Remote Nations of the World. In Four Parts. By Lemuel Gulliver, First a Surgeon, and then a Captain of Several Ships

It's literally fine. What EOPs don't understand is that nobody reads the whole fucking title when they're browsing.

Here, what you see is 歴史最強, 神, and 生まれ変わり. This tells you literally everything you need to know about the story, and then you can look at the boring text if you want to know more.

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>Have you ever published a fiction book
No, I wasn't satisfied with the quality of the story and discarded it halfway through. Unlike some writers, I have at least some standards.

To be honest, Lexwall of Another Sky is a shit title and sell a story that's much more interesting than "muh tensei wish fulfillment story". The editor was right to give it the title it deserves.

>Lexwall of Another Sky
Damn, that sounds cool. would read/10. Japs and that poster have shit taste.

You just described 100% of the writers.

>Here, what you see is 歴史最強, 神, and 生まれ変わり. This tells you literally everything you need to know about the story, and then you can look at the boring text if you want to know more.
If the author can't even come with an interesting title, it tells me everything I need to know about his writing abilities. It's a great first level filter when looking for something decent to read.

If you're looking for an interesting story in the fucking isekai section, you're doing it wrong anyway.

I unironically read "Vingt mille lieues sous les mers" in a light novel format. It was rad and make me read the full version.

50 shades of grey
don't ask why I know this

Hm, good point. Wasn't that one originally a Twilight fanfic or something like that anyway?

Fair enough. This rule also comes in handy when looking for some anime to watch. Almost every series with 5+ word title could be safely ignored without wasting my time on reading the summary.

this I do not know

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This is literally the equivalent of clickbait titles, right?

>would read/10
Did you fucking read the synopsis title?
It's garbage.

I was going to comment that I'd be more willing to give adaptations of these a shot if the names weren't retardely long, then I realized the publisher was doing us a favor

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>nobody asks the important question
What is a lexwall?

>They're held to significantly lower standard
No, they aren't. For every semicoherent novel you read, there are thousands of novels that are so bad that calling them readable would be an overstatement. Novels are a medium with a very low barrier of entry, and therefore the average novel is complete garbage. What you see in a book store are the 0.1% of novels, and don't represent the average quality.
LNs require an artist, this means that the barrier of entry is higher and therefore it's very likely that the average LN is better written than the average novel. And if we're talking about modern fiction, then even praised authors aren't that much better than LN authors.

It's not always up to the author. You have an example in this very thread of a publisher overruling an author's preferred stylish title for a trashy descriptive one.

I'm assuming Lexwall is the protag's name.

Can't find shit on google, probably something in the other-world of the story

And the book in question is still shit. The longer title simply made it more obvious

>people talk about anime and manga titles
>not about when chapter titles where the editor did what the fuck he wanted. and established great taste

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Not all LNs are isekai trash. Stuff like Kino's Journey, Slayers, and Welcome to the NHK for instance are things I've read that are pretty good and have gotten manga and anime adaptations. They're not examples of great writing but they're mostly the equivalent of young adult novels in the west, which are also held to lower standards. Isekai is the equivalent of say paranormal romance in the west. It's cliche and not very well written but it sells and so everyone jumps on the bandwagon to try and get some return from it.

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The reason why the Jew fears the Samurai is because the Samurai can outjew even the smartest Jews.

These also have normal titles. Coincidence?

That was the title of next chapter

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I'm just going against that user's posting that all LNs are shit. People on Yea Forums watch at least some anime and so they know that isekai doesn't make up every anime series but I imagine not a lot of people read LNs on Yea Forums and LNs have become synonymous with isekai because those are the ones that get adapted the most or are on the top sellers list.

If the samurai have to use jew tactics, then the jews already won.

I like LN isekais

The Japanese did not invent this particular marketing scheme, as one user already pointed out. Many older books that we know today by a more succinct title actually had ridiculously long and descriptive ones. As a bit of background, the fiction market of the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries was bizarrely similar to the light novel market today. A lot of it was serialized, and most of it was considered lowest-common-denominator escapist trash rather than art. Books that are widely considered classics or even masterpieces today were considered pleb garbage at the time they were published, despite (or perhaps because of) being extremely popular. Even if we go back to the 16th and 17th centuries guys like Shakespeare and Cervantes were looked down on for writing mass-pleasing junk. As an aside Cervantes' character of Don Quixote is basically a lampoon of an otaku who only reads the late 16th century equivalent of light novels, which at the time were chivalric romances. Alexandre Dumas was basically the 19th century French equivalent of a modern light novel author, churning out serialized adventure power-fantasy thrills like The Count of Monte Cristo and The Three Musketeers at a ridiculous pace that were reviled by those who considered themselves to have refined taste, but are now considered classics. Of course, Dumas tended to stick to succinct and catchy titles, but Charles Dickens, his English contemporary and fellow pulp-novel serializer, named his masterpiece "The Personal History, Adventures, Experience and Observation of David Copperfield the Younger of Blunderstone Rookery (Which He Never Meant to Publish on Any Account)"

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They're older, from before the flood.

What do we learn from it. Do be remembered you need to be known first.

I especially like how the title mentions "PYRATES" even if it's not directly related to the rest of the description. It is a guaranteed way to attract the readers no matter the century.

what even

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God I remember reading Robinson Crusoe and fucking hating it. I don't even remember if I finished it or not. I do find it interesting that older novels were serialized as well. It's hard to know if they were given more thought when being written than LNs today are.

Long titles eventually get shortend by the watchers/readers like Anohana, Konosuba and Erased so it't not that big of an issue.

That's the rumour anyway.

Homestuck predicted this.

What is it like being married to a comet user?

Marketers.

Japs are also very prone to using contractions and abbreviations in those situations, i.e., Ore no Imouto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai becoming OreImo, so the ridiculous title lengths don't actually bother them and kanji means a title can be an entire sentence without running out of space for characters in situations where title space would be limited.