Wouldn't isekai summoning make more sense if the summoners pulled someone who was already powerful from another...

There's also that feudal-era samurai that got summoned by the princess and then he killed the king.

>old low fantasy
Stranger in a strange land. The main character's own marvel or disorientation is mirrored by the reader.
>isekai
Magically transported to the land of no real magic. Same shit different day. No adventure. No discovery. Frequently outright power fantasy.

Asking the reader to empathize or even self insert as the lead character isn't necessarily evil but god damn does the average isekai blow it.

magic doesn't work on earth so they don't know they are op

Isekai Maou, the girls were actually trying to summon a demon lord. Though it didn't go 100% as planned.

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Did Zero no Tsukaima have a way for Louise to enforce obedience from the MC? It's been so long that I've actually forgotten.

Them gods sure are generous handing out cheat skills for no reason other than "isekaied people get cheat skills, that's how it's always been".

I was looking forward to the shift to urban fantasy.

Basically the magic brand influenced him to always be Louise's familiar and suppressed his desire to go home.

title?

Please wait "a little while longer".
twitter.com/hitsuji6155/status/1141698736051015680

On a tangent, I like how manga Lefille
looks exactly like Chastille.

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Often it's presented as some kind of deal sweetener to get the MC to agree to travel to an isekai instead of re-entering the cycle of reincarnation or going to heaven, because the gods need isekaied people for some reason, and because the gods can't just force dump souls into the isekai without their consent for some reason.

Sometimes it's intended for them to pull a powerful 'warrior' from another world and get the high school kid by accident.

Look at the bright side user, at very least we got a taste of vol9's prologue since march via fan tl.

Brave Fence Musashi. That's all I got.

>Wouldn't gacha summoning make more sense if the goyim pulled someone who was already powerful from another gacha to do their bidding, instead of gambling and getting some random joker summon who then gets granted a "cheat item" afterwards? I think that's what goyims are supposed to do in most phone games, summoning powerful gacha spirits/gods/demons.

Why don't they just summen a sucubuss?

I thought the summoning usually doesn't have this precision.

The one exception I know is Eien no Aselia, where the titular weapons are gene-encoded to prevent natives from using them. The protagonist is specifically a guy who made a contract with the weapon before he gets pulled over.

isekai mahou actually makes a more legitimate point in that most of these high schoolers seem to agree way too easily to go out and risk life and limb to fight for a bunch of medieval strangers while barely taking the time to think about it.
I mean if I was a Jap kid who was kidnapped to Uganda, put into an experimental power armor by the US army and told to go find Kony and his army of child soldiers with AK-47s, and my only reward is to fuck Ugandan bitches and live in Uganda, I'd tell them all to fuck off.

That is an incredibly apt example of the situation there user. Thanks for the hearty chuckle.

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BRING HIM BACK

PLEASE

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It ain't happening joe

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>Spending 9 volumes trying to find a way home
>back where a group of needy and bitchy amazons that are pretty much nuclear bombs ready to go off are looking for you
Was returning back to earth a good thing for suimei? i mean before that immortal lich he thought he killed appeared in the other world and made going back a thing that HAD to be done. Then again, what was EVER a good thing for suimei involving earth? his friends and cousin aside that is

Summoned slaughterer?

Worthenia senki

Good or bad, Suimei's ambition can only be accomplished if he returns to Earth and finishes the work he started. Not returning was never an option.

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Oh right, that thing he was working on.

>the WN translator wants to alternate between the volume 9 chapters and the volume 3 chapters
WHY WHAT'S THE BLOODY POINT

What was he working on anyway? IIRC he wants to access the Akashic records, but we have no idea what he wants to use it for, except maybe that it has something to do with the fact that the word is hurtling towards death by magic entropy and the Sacrament that Reiji found is related to it.

>when a reviewer complains that Isekai Mahou has too many magic history and system infodumps

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Something humanitarian or whatever, inspired by his late father's death. But apparently what his father wanted for him is to settle down and be for the one he loves or something. It's been longe insce i read this so i don't remember correctly i might be really wrong about stuff.

The tl;dr is that he was motivated by his father's ideal of saving people that would otherwise be doomed to misfortune and deemed unsalvageable while also wishing to prove that his father hadn't wasted his time chasing after a seemingly impossible goal, even if Suimei knows that such a thing is likely out of his grasp as well. The Akashic records are the end-goal because, if they exist, they should contain the knowledge to make goal a reality.

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>we have no idea what he wants to use it for, except maybe that it has something to do with the fact that the word is hurtling towards death by magic entropy
IMO, he more or less like classic mages in Fate series, instinctively seeking the Root, just because.

Drifters
No game no life

>mfw every time Suimei starts talking about magic and going into detail of how it works

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>Wouldn't isekai summoning make more sense if the summoners pulled someone to do their bidding, instead of summoning joker
But user, the best isakes to ever be made is the one where they summoned the Joker.
youtube.com/watch?v=9dM7tHP9VZI

Magi in Fate seek the root because it's the path to true magic which is a mystery that can't be explained unlike magecraft. The original magi were basically scholars.
At least, that's what the lore was before FGO. Now it's got something to do with Solomon and getting rid of reliance on the gods.

>Now it's got something to do with Solomon and getting rid of reliance on the gods.
That's part of what it always was, and always has been since Gilgamesh envisioned a future where human knowledge would grow to such a point that they would leave behind the planet and the gods themselves, rendering them obsolete and unnecessary.

fucking oda nobujoker

It is something that is destined to happen, and defeating the beasts is a step toward that. And (You) are 3 beasts away from fulfilling that prophecy.

The problem is his father died before telling Suimei the most important part, to protect the ONE woman you love above all else unlike he did. Too bad that means Suimei keeps saving and wooing women without a care for their feelings for him(aside from Hydemary, but that's just because she'll literally go apeshit and fight every other girl first).

Oh good, i wasnt completely off the mark there. Now i wonder how will he react to finally realizing all his father wanted was for him to live and enjoy a family of his own, which is pretty much impossible now with a dozen or so girls wanting his D.

I can only hope his father left something hidden behind to clarify the things he never got to say to Suimei. Because living a life sacrificing himself to same the next damsel in distress isn't what his father wanted for him at all.

Probably worse than what his father lived because he'll lose more important people that way.

I'm sure that even if there is, he'll reject it anyway because he still wants to save everyone.

that's what it'll end up happening, probably.

Yeah and he'll suffer for it just like fucking Archer did. Hopefully he gets played by the Demon Queen pretending to be a damsel in distress to disarm him in order to defeat him he'll learn his lesson and change.

Isn't that how Archer alter went down too?

He fell hunting her down due to all of the believers he killed along the way.

Geminar
Marchen Heaven
Escaflowe
Mondaiji
Dog Days

Is this "I self sacrifice because I want to protect everybody's smiles" attitude some sort of Japanese trope. I don't think even American superheroes are this level of idealism.

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>my only reward is to fuck Ugandan bitches and live in Uganda
Well no shit, Uganda bitches aren't that nice to look at(maybe the lolis). Maybe if you gained all mineral rights to Uganda, and were not restricted to how many and the ethnicity of your wives, you might reconsider.

>yfw it just escalates until Suimei decides to save the goddess

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>rest of harem decides to research god-slaying magic

Oh that would be fucking priceless. Even better if he has to save her from Ryuji and the sacrament

Or, instead of yanking some poor shmuck from his loved ones to do your dirty work, why not just grant your blessing to an already powerful warrior so they can deal with the problem?

For reals, I've basically never come across any isekai where crossing worlds or the fact of being from a different world is what is of value (like certain laws of the World not applying to a foreign object or something). Somehow instead being summoned gives you a totally unrelated "cheat" because reasons?

>who was already powerful from another universe to do their bidding
Why would someone who is already powerful do someone's bidding, especially after being ripped out of his own world without his consent?
>Summons demigod
>He gets mad
>Wipes out your entire nation
Great fucking job

As opposed to summon random peasants to become meatshields?

disposable fighters, also called mercenaries

There are much better ways to waste a shitload of magical energy, god's favor or whatever catalyst they are using than to summon someone who could be easily replaced by any random peasant from the nearest village.

Its also retarded, a high schooler wouldnt have a top tier assassination moves.

To be fair, in this case Suimei's sense of idealism was something instilled in him rather than a feeling that was always there to begin with. It doesn't help that his father really fucked his head up by trying to curb his ego while teaching him about magic, inadvertently giving his son a serious complex about his level of strength despite being a pretty high-tier magician.

>Try to summon powerful hero to kill the demon lord and his kin.
>Accidentally summon a powerful being that doesn't just want to kill the demon lord but all native life
>humans and demons have to overcome their differences and work together to kill the new threat.

>summon random Joe who gets cheat power
>He gets mad
>Wipes out your entire nation
Wew

unless there's a reason to call one, like in worthenia senki where summoned people get more power from killing shit than the natives.

Knowing how to metagame is an important skill for someone being summoned to rules-based world. Not that most isekai protagonists can even do that.

In many works of fantasy, a summoned greater being is either broken to your will by magical means, or is granted appropriate tribute in exchange for their power. For example, the Servants in Fate answer the call because they are promised the Grail, but also are bound to obey the orders of the Masters through the Command Seals.

Imagine if instead of summoning warriors from another world, they were summoning sex slaves instead. Would at least make more sense.

>summon human hookers because the elven ones have been used by everybody over centuries

There is an isekai just like this... Isekai Taneuma.

I think there was one novel like that.
A crazy scientist/magician who would summon japanese otakus, turn them into kemonomimi female slaves, forcefully tune them with magic and then sell them to nobility.

That's only because those are the only stories we're shown. Who knows, maybe there are many worlds in the multiverse where they end up summoning Cuban fishermen, Thai strippers or Ancient Greek philosophers.

God I wish that was me

>summon thai stripper
>defeats maou army by seduction

Imagine being summoned as an elf princess’ panties. Haha. What would that be like?

Haha. Imagine the smell.

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Stop criticizing zero no tsukaima

it also has no anime or manga adaptation

What interesting activity?

>like certain laws of the World not applying to a foreign object or something
Like being a male who can pilot mecha that are exclusively piloted only by females in that world?

>Ancient Greek philosophers.
Would unironically be a pretty good choice. Some of those guys were /fit/ as fuck.

Maybe, but how would being from a different universe circumvent that restriction and what "cheat" benefit would a mecha being operated by a male pilot bring?

Of course it doesn't, kids being beheaded and essentially used as livestock probably wouldn't be something incredibly marketable, no.

Bending the world's physics because it operates in 2.5D is a good start(see: "isometric" games that allow for height differences)

then why is re:monster marketable?

Poor little white girl vs barbarian cock

becoming the first studhorse for countries that want your DNA to make more males to operate said machines

>summon sex slave
>turns out the rules make them steal both mana and spell knowledge via sex
>they destroy it nation
OC donut steel.

Yeah but can you imagine Socrates "just asking some questions" in a fantasy kingdom? He'd be drinking hemlock again in a week!

]Re:Monster is tame as fuck, I don't know why it gets brought up all the fucking time. Which is probably why its marketable.

Been a while since I watched Dual!, but probably . Also, maybe there is a hidden mode that a female pilot might not know how/be able to accesslike a fleshlight control for the hisatsuwaza.

i want an isekai like I Was Naked When I Reached the Other World but with Diogenes as the protagonist

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I dunno i seem to recall an awful lot of Isekai's with a perfectly normal highschool student being summons. Perfectly ordinary and normal teenagers who just happens to be a hyper capable martial aritsts who eat vetern warriors for breakfast.

If someone's already powerful, they could just stop themselves from being summoned. The best bet would be grabbing someone who has potential, but is currently weak.

>they find the best match for your genes
>gotta fuck ugly girls
>that or getting your semen extracted by a machine and used on said girls

its got elves being drugged with aphrodisiacs till they "consent" to being sex slaves for a group of goblins.

slave dog girl Diogenes?

IIRC pic related used isekaied people('s souls) as part of their interstellar navigation program because crossing from a higher dimension gives them the Oversight/Overlooking Viewpoint that lets them search the galaxy for a habitable planet. It's perhaps the only example I can think of where the property of crossing dimensions is what the summoner needs.

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So basically jacking off, but the government is paying you to stay alive and you don't have to provide child support. Perfect NEET lifestyle.

And that is tame as fuck compared to being summoned, watching 80% of your class + your teacher get beheaded, then getting told your going to be a fuckdoll for the highest bidder so you can spit out kids/produce kids with cheat skills. And in regards to Re:monster, after they were pumped full of aphrodisiacs they then get the choice on when or who they want to sleep with so who the fuck cares?

normies cant really tell the difference

It's more like 99% of them have never even read re:monster and only saw that one manga page and think that's a common occurrence which its not.

I want to see an Isekai manga that goes something like this :

>some empire tries to summon a hero
>they summon some powerful vampire/demon/whatever instead
>she askes where the sacrifice is
>gets told "uh there isn't any, we thought we would just summon a hero who would just help us, by the way we have no way of sending you back"
>she kills the emperor and takes over the empire for fun
>the empire's rival tries to summon a hero to deal with her, ends up summoning some lovecraftian horror that creates bigger problems
>all the other countries ban hero summoning after this
>MC is the crown prince who serves as her toy and is scheming to get the throne back

there's no hook and it sounds boring as shit

>I was the crown prince whose kingdom summoned a hero from another world who became the demon lord which prompted my enemy kingdom to summon a hero who became an outer world lord and took over the kingdom whose princess I am in love with?!

whats your definition of a hook? high schooler summoned to another world with cheats?

It would be like an even crazier version of Arslan Senki.

Oh man imagine that long ass title of a LN cover.

The irony is that maybe we can just shorten it in nip to something like Maou no Omocha, or Maomocha, for short.

>implying the nips would pick a sensible short name like that instead of grabbing only the particles and stringing them together for something that makes no sense

Yeah, they just grab the hiragana particles, leaving the kanji behind, 99 times out of 10.

Having the demon lord be isekai'd in adds nothing to the story. It's unnecessary complication.
>start with the demon lord already in power, the mc already her subordinate. it doesn't matter where she came from
>mc has been working to subvert her rule for a while now
>good guy kingdom decides the demon lord's threat is too great, decides to summon a hero
>summoning misfires and they end up with an eldritch nightmare
>mc suddenly has to swallow his pride and support his most hated enemy because he realizes that she's the only one strong enough to take on the abomination
You can play it as a super edgy story about someone supporting a tyrant to stop and even greater evil, or as an echi comedy where the mc has to avoid misunderstandings and learn to get along with his attractive superior.

the demon lord being isekaied in would be like the first chapter or a short flashback.

>Poor little white girl(male) vs barbarian cock
fixed

>she was the MC of
Could make for 20 years of stringing along the readers, aka steady income, if done right.

There's is a naked man isekai. He even got a wife while being naked for weeks and working as hunter. Everyone stares at his dick, but noone bothers to get him clothes because they think that will offend his religious feelings

that series is just retarded, why doesnt he just go buy some clothes or something, theres obviously at least one tailor in a village who can make clothes.

>working as hunter.
Literally just tauntaun yourself, Richard Hatch.

It's retarded in clothing department. Otherwise natives actually have smarts to them, like, they attack demon gargoyle (or what was that thing) by luring it into a trap, tying it with ropes/nets and stabbing with long spears collectively. Doesn't work in the end, but natives sure are not dumb enough to 1v1 it like in most isekais

>the NEET mc ends up being stronger than god

The isekai gods are morons.

>there's more than one isekai with "slow life" or something similar in the title

Why have an adventure setting if you're not gonna have an adventure in the first place?

Lots of them are isekai'd without consent, the fuck are you talking about?

the logic is that the joker is the most compatible with the OP cheat

Maybe he's only seen isekai smartphone.

then they'd be normal fantasy summoners and not isekai

>isekai someone young & spineless who you can give hax to + groom to be loyal & thankful to you
>vs
>isekai an expert who's ambitions would probably outdrown the resident demon lord, would probably have a fee impossible to pay, etc etc

>Isekai Smartphone
>Nidome no Jinsei
>Konosuba
>some other garbage

So why is she still working for the evil empire even after being freed from the control thingy?

Wait let met guess. Stockholm syndrome caused by being broken so thoroughly that she became a willing dog of the empire without the need for any obedience collar?

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Is this girl a giantess or is the perspective just shit?

Lol. I thought the same.

What is it with you people and destroying the whole nation?

>'people' don't want to be the strongest and rule like a god
Seriously what is wrong with you? are that beta that you will still be some loser when isekai'd with a cheat?

Because she's fully mindbroken and she is powerfull as fuck.

I thought the priest guy said she was the only one who became truly free.

She is the girl Kuro was in love with on earth, but completely mindbroken and brainwashed by the training program. Kuro discovers this and can't come to kill her when he has the chance, but can't bring himself to get close to her either, Lily sticks the proverbial dagger in her heart by telling her no matter how much you love Kuro he'll never love you back because you stole his most important person from him and nothing is ever going to change that.

>you stole his most important person from him
Who? what?

This girl.

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she's the one who became the mindbroken soldier right? So the fairy told her she stole herself from him? what?

Sariel is the girl Kuro was in love with on earth, but completely mindbroken and brainwashed by the training program Unlike Kuro she completely broke down and her personality was subsumed to create Sariel. She's hopelessly in love with Kuro but due to what I said in the spoiler he will NEVER(as far as I've read anyway) get over who she is originally and that is when Lily hits her with WHY Kuro will never love her like she loves him and it almost breaks her again.

Half Fairy is now my new favorite race.
Look at how cute she is.

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Make the only males that can pilot such mecha be those transported from another world.

Is the system good?

Yeah, except when the slave contract doesn't work, then all you did was piss off a dude that has more than enough power to murder you ten times over.

But because of it, I can't just find the wn version and mtl it. I need more Isekai Mahou...

Good luck trying to summon literal gods/demons. Are you prepared to offer your soul in exchange for your wish?

Wherever I go I must destroy.

But that's wrong. The summoned NEET/high school kid often end up trying to reform the society, picking fights with nobles and royalty or straight up allying with the enemy. They are just as hard to manipulate, except they are more immature. It's like handing a nuke to 5 years old and expect that he'll be more reasonable than the 20 yo soldier.
But that also would happen with the OP highschooler/NEET trope. The big difference is that it would make more sense for people to summon an actual hero and bind him, rather than summon a NEET, turn him into a god and let him loose, expecting him to do your bidding.

>700+ WN chapters
At least I know what to read for the next few months.

It get crazier as it goes along, its fucking glorious.

>be demon lord
>smart enough to wage a war against entire human race and still be winning
>not smart enough to identify when enemy is clearly stronger or attempt to initiate peace talks ever...

So Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru is a crossover fanfic between two series that don't actually exist?

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what do you mean?

Didn't Kurono at least fuck her? And also the Witch?

>Actually a powerful swordsman from his real world, that explains his power without cheating
>Still need to do fetching quests in isekai
>Is actually not all powerful and need to collect artifacts to help him in his quest
>bosses are monstrous and took him all he's got
>the world is not revolved around him and has a brilliant supporting cast that provides him with support

Why can't modern isekai have learning curves and development like this?
It's like they all want a quick masturbatory release instead of a full blown concerto of passionate love making with superb climax

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Yeah he tore that ass up.

The target audience are salarymen and NEETs, the last thing they want is having to deal with hard work nonsense in their fiction.

In that series that sword also likes to mind rape MC. The local also has magic rule on him along with his sister as a hostage.They prepared enough that he was basically a slave soldier with no way out.

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because nowaday series come and go in a flash, you have to hook people with spectacular or super-wish fulfillment to last
Even Danmachi, a series supposedly about a guy who have to train hard to reach his idol get his god-like cheat in literally surpassed everyone but the alr godlike people in no time

Some of the bad ends in those games, especially the 1st one, wew.

I mean that it feels as though the author came up with the premise while reading some medieval fantasy and thinking "man, my favorite Nasuverse/Raildex/Negima/whatever from the mid 2000s cast could totally beat these people in a fight".

and then wrote a crossover fic of exactly that.

Because he actually goes out and fights hard unlike 99% of people.
Everyone rushes to lv up too instead too like addicts instead of raising their stats to limit first.

It makes sense in-universe when you find out the heroes are brainwashed by the goddess into being her slaves.

I just wish a famous top class writer would make an isekai. At least to show all these hacks how it's done.

people are probably going to point out some literature that predates the 20th century that doesn't really fall into the modern isekai genre

you are ignoring the fact that he has a skill that boost his stat gain greatly. I like the fact that he's a competent and hardworking protag for a chance, but hell concealing those stat hacking was quite the job in the LN

Some get fucked over more than others too. Ryuji just has a compulsion to fight the demons, Hatsumi had her memories stolen, the Dual wielder girl had her entire consciousness sealed making her akin to a fucking magic doll, and I don't think Elliot lost anything at all, actually.

What feature does a novel need to fall into the modern isekai genre anyway?
>Medieval high fantasy setting. Occasional space opera/renaissance
>RPG stats
>cheat abilities/weapons/blessing
isekai really just follow the basic premise of "the hero journey", except the hero's introduction to a new world is taken literally

Hey bell got plenty of hardships and sufferings, even the elf got a few

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Who are you going to sell your minerals to in isekai?

Absolutely pointless drama the author created just to make way for the elf to fall for Bell.

i'd say coming out in the last 10 years at the very least, even when you don't have litrpg features, there's a major differences in themes and tropes even among anime and manga about a protagonist who goes to another world in a current series compared to something that came out in the early 00s or 90s

As a salaryman myself, I would be pissed as fuck if a filthy NEET developed cheat powers to surpass everyone else without putting in any effort.
All of us got to our respective places by putting in hardwork and paying our dues, especially the top brass.

Sure you would have the seemingly perfect genius 30 something year old director once in a while that can generate the most revenue, but they've been through a lot in their early 20s and put in crazier hours than most of us could even dream of

I don't like that type of direct mind fuck. I prefer the subtler ones. These evil gods recently sure are lacking in class.

You're not a Jap salaryman and don't have their mentality, you're not the target audience.

Or humans from our world are unaffected by magic in isekai.

You mean like Kazuma Kamachi did with Boo Boo?

>Hatsumi had her memories stolen, the Dual wielder girl had her entire consciousness sealed making her akin to a fucking magic doll
Did the goddess do that?
>and I don't think Elliot lost anything at all, actually
I think he, Ryuji and Hatsumi all just had the compulsion to fight demons and save people added. At least, the prologue of volume 9 IIRC doesn't seem to imply that she did anything more nefarious than that to them.

well, on top of my head
>Zero no tsukaima: summoned, high fantasy world, had a lil bit of cheat skill, used his modern world knowledge to solve problem. Had a "harem". No actual RPG mehanic. Closest to modern isekai, thus far
>Inu yasha: not really? the FeMC do had the cheat skill, but still weak as fuck. the main attraction is the characters who are alr there.

Well they try to blame Hatsumi losing her memories on the summoning itself but that seemed pretty iffy to me. Elliot was directly summoned by the church so outside of the compulsion(does he actually have this? I don't remember him actively trying to fight demons at all) he was fine, we know very little about the 3rd hero so your guess is as good as mine, but the group rebelling against the goddess all but stated it was the goddess that did it and they may have misled, but not actively lied to Suimei thus far, and Ryuji is a natural born hero with an inborn desire to help so his compulsion was moreso just towards fighting the demons.

>The summoned NEET/high school kid often end up trying to reform the society, picking fights with nobles and royalty or straight up allying with the enemy.
In most cases those things don't happen. Stupid highschool Japs are trained to obey orders from a perceived authority.

Where the translations at? Fuck slowed down to a crawl a few years ago and never recovered.

if it fell into the modern genre it will be called hack anyway. anything falling into "top work to show how isekai is done" will also obviously be shrugged off as not actual isekai then

A year ago I couldn't read jap. Now I can.
Why haven't you taking the /DJT/ pill yet?

Looks like Cat scans and Imanity Scans pick up 'It Seems My Body Is Completely Invincible' manga

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>No gwen today
kill me lads

Yeah, Elliot is compelled to save the people of the world by fighting the demons, just like all the other heroes. The Volume 9 prologue also confirms that the goddess impressed a mission on Reiji, among other things (such as that Reiji is maturing in power faster than expected because of the Sacrament, or that even if she combined the power she gave to four Heroes in one person then Suimei would still surpass them. actually she's pretty wary of Suimei's effect on Reiji's decision-making)

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*plus that, at the very least, whatever the goddess's goal is it does at least genuinely seem to involve protecting the world from threats.

So why didn't she add things to MC mind?

Because Suimei was an unfortunate tagalong along with Mizuki.

Because Suimei isn't a hero and didn't receive the goddess's hero power blessing. It was just bad luck that a Type Moon protagonist got dragged into the goddess's JRPG fantasy alongside the actual hero.

And that changed things somehow?

He's slowly turning the angel that possessed Mizuki away from the goddess too.
If he didn't receiver her power or blessing how can she manipulate his mind? It's done via the power and the blessing she grants to the Heroes.

>a Type Moon protagonist
wrong, most of the Type Moon protagonists are just weakshitters with a gimmick
>Shiki is a normal human with MEoDP
>Shiki is a dying human with anaemia and MEoDP
>Shirou is a terrible magus with UBW
>Hakuno is an NPC
>Guda(k)o is completely normal
the only Type Moon protagonist who's anything close to Suimei is Aozaki Aoko.

The MC feels more like he came out of raildex.

Just call him a urban fantasy protag and move on.

So the main reason was like summoning and blessing was automatic? She wasn't looking and not aware that there was an extra?

Something like that.

Video related, it's Aozaki Aoko doing Suimei things
youtube.com/watch?v=7epjywaka_c

sure, as a raildex side character maybe.

There's many flavors of urban fantasy from Nurarihyon no Mago to Kaze no Stigma to Fate/stay night. The magi of Suimei's world seem closer to Type-Moon's in motivation and Raildex's in power scale.

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All top class writers were once beginners too, Overlord is written like real literature.
>inb4 ancient literature never had goofy stuff and wish fulfillment

I haven't reached the bad end. What happened?

What happened to last boss manga translations?

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fucking Starlight

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God I loved that fight.
>Mentioning Kaze no Stigma in a thread talking about Isekai Mahou
pls don't curse isekai mahou with FOREVER UNFINISHED

>this nigga is actually trying to shoot down the moon
okay, the finale of isekai mahou will be that the goddess lives in the moon and suimei is shooting it?

The japs make a lot of stuff where nothing really happens for giant chunks at a time but holy fuck, chinks are masterful at dragging everything out, especially the fight sequences
I'd rather take 10 web chapters of nothing happening over 10 web chapters of one thing happening

I see some Aseliafriends are lurking. Here is Temuorin's backstory given out as a gift: pixiv.net/fanbox/creator/7298/post/435312

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>This all happened in a quarter of a second though

Searching for Akashic Records because he was cursed by his dying dad's last words and wish to save people is 150% Fate.

based

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>The japs make a lot of stuff where nothing really happens for giant chunks at a time
And Japanese publishing model actively encourages this. A manga or novel would drag on indefinitely as long as they remain popular, then get axed with a shitty rushed ending in 3 chapters immediately after they drop below the red line.

Sure but his explanations for magic sound like he based them on the idol theory.

Gotta pad that word count for money.
For all its faults, i'm glad the furry chops those parts from TAS, it reads way way better

Why didn't anyone tell me that FUNA's lolis are finally free from Estellion's ESL MTL?

To the extent that they rely on symbolism, but if I'm not mistaken Raildex magic isn't limited by the caster's mana generation and doesn't easily lend itself to beamspam, instead working in trickier and more symbolic ways.

Kamachi actually did RESEARCH. Of course other writers are capable of writing the same chunni system of magic if hey read the same chunni books explaining how magic "really" works.

So what you guys reading today?

The one where she broke? I heard there was a drama cd version too.

So Temuorin The Order wasn't always Temuorin. If I am getting it right her first act as an eternal was fucking erasing a world effortlessly.

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>in reality it all happened within 5 seconds

Finishing off Crest of the Stars 1 and now trying to get a move on with Grimgar after having put it on hold for months. It's just so dull

Yes and yes. The unofficial title is Destiny of The Eternals 1: Princess to fall into darkness. That's the first episode out of three planned episodes: when she was a human and how she became an Eternal, as a Law Eternal, and how she got involved with Euphie and Myugii in the recent drama stories).

Drifters.

Rereading Isekai Mahou Side Stories. Considering how Suimei is being toyed by Hydemary alone, I wonder what will the others will do to him when he came back. The 3 otherworlders with him will see him in a new light, as how pathetic he was being toyed with.
The future looks grim for Suimei.

Theres also Hyakuren, and it finally passed the anime adaption.

The Worst Princes’ Battle Over Giving Up the Imperial Throne, so far seems pretty funny.

>none of us wants to be emperor, what do we do?
>oh I know, let's kidnap a random thief girl off of the streets and claim that she's our father's illegitimate child and make her empress instead of us!
These people are peak shameless.

I'd read a long socratic dialogue on the value of isekai heroes and kingdoms

Nasu's male protagonist are weakshitters, sometimes with a gimmick.

I have no idea why the translation for potion loli is worse than the one for jew loli even though they're from the same guy.

I wish he was more of a boogiepop type

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Nobody's uploaded it yet so I'm considering buying the eBook version of the Isekai Mahou manga adaptation and uploading it somewhere. I'll give it another week and, if nobody's done bothered, I'll see what I can do. Only the unofficial scanlations are still up but they didn't make it to the end of Volume 2 before it got licensed.

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Even Sonic did this properly

Why is she in this?

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>Talk mad shit about the isekai magic
>Still gets wrecked by a low level demon
HM hello?

he was using the wrong magic, he didn't think they were literal DAEMONS and thought they were more like magical beasts or something.

>Read an isekai where the MC is reincarnated as a baby
>Instead of taking a few chapters to reorient himself to his new infant body and gain a better understanding of where he is, he just talks about how he gets breastfed before going to a timeskip

Ahh, that's good to know cause damn, him getting almost done in that soon was really outta the left field.

Authors getting their priorities straight I see.

It's more annoying when they go "oh no I can't be breastfed, i'm xx years old mentally" For all the misc shit JP MCs seem to know, they completely underestimate the usefulness of being breastfed, especially if they are reincarnated as a native of their new world and not transmigrated.

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More MC should use situations like those for maximum enjoyment. Nudity with others can be more easily enjoyed too.

I know one series where the MC ends up with a frail undeveloped body for it.

>becomes super smol loli

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isn't that the one where he gets reincarnated as the daughter of a former party member?

I mean, they are already pissing and shitting themselves. why try to claim any sort of dignity now? Just take the breast milk and be done with it.

Maou sama Retry had demon warshippers try to summon a demonlord but got themselves a god(game dev) LARPing as his own created character named "Maou".

youtube.com/watch?v=GdEsJzzhCjk

Maou is literally a god in the isekai world since his admin rights and powers still work in the isekai.

yeah

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Would be better if they adapted the more rapey prequel ,Yuuri of the DROWN ME IN CUM Eyes.

He's fucking pathetic.
>Gets second chance at life
>Isn't an orphan
>Is the child of his former party members
>Good upbringing
>Won't sell her out to be married to the royal family
>Protects her best friend from being used militarily due to her talent
>Still acts like a petulant shit because "fuk normies"
(S)he isn't likeable as an MC at all. At least Yuuri kept me entertained throughout.

Imagine being born the daughter of your rival, do you think you have the nerve to put on a good daughter act and say "I love you papa"?

What's the name?
I thought you guys were talking about Scholar's Reincarnation but I was wrong.

mangadex.org/title/23467/eiyuu-no-musume-toshite-umarekawatta-eiyuu-wa-futatabi-eiyuu-o-mezasu

Lefiya is censored in the main novel. Also, the one who will bring Lefiya out of despair is Ais, not Bell.

Considering that life is done and dusted, and I'm lucky enough to actually have a family this time around I certainly would. They showered her in nothing but love and adoration from the day she was born and he holds onto "grudges" from his past life. All this shit could have been solved if she just asked them about their iod party, then transition to talking about Reid. They actually liked and enjoyed his fucking company, they tried to facilitate his romance with the beastkin girl in their group, they supported him when he had NO ONE ELSE.

Hermit Sage or Scholarly Hermit or something like that. Hidden Sage is a more reasonable translation in a vacuum, but for some reason 隱者 is the standardized translation *into* Chinese for the Hermit tarot card.

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user some people simple can't let it go, it's in their blood.

I don't think the blood argument holds any water here. I think it would be more accurate to say that it is engraved in their soul.

In pic related it happens somehow since Seiya is actually a hero who failed to save a world.
The only problem is that the novel continues after the first volume. Honestly, I would have preferred if it ended on chapter 50.

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True, should've worded that better.

Does he end up with the goddess that summoned him

I want to fuck Suimei.

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>sell
Doesn't have to be monetary value. If you become king of Uganda, maybe you get the world's biggest lode of !vibranium.

Do you want to voodoo him and force him to fuck you

The machine translation of it was better.

Delete this; Suimei is pure and not for sexual.

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>tfw Hydemary can possibly rape him by using dolls
Jesus how horrifying.

I didn't read that particular manga, but in most isekai, the issue would be all humans are 'weak'. Even a 6'3'' powerlifter is weak in a world of magic and demons.

So it doesn't really matter what their physical attributes are. What's more important is their attitude. You don't want to pick some Yakuza member that will rape and pillage everything and may even JOIN the demon lord, rather than defeating the demon lord.

How about say, human males in that world have a disease that makes them infertile, DNA is just different enough/lacks certain receptors for the pathogen to bind to/attack, and the unlock mechanism requires a fertile male below 30?

I want to fuck Lefille's Hat. God such a sexy hat.

himesuz art was nice, shame they changed it.

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No. He does have a special relationship with her due to some past events, but in chapter 50 he dies and when he is resurrected again he loses his memory.

himseuz and COMTA both had/have the best art for Isekai Mahou by far, in my opinion.

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Drifters.

But isekai self-inserts tend to end up super strong, and can be trump cards. It's the John Carter Effect.

i cry myself to sleep because im already 30

>what matters is not physical attributes, but attitude
True, but that would make it even less sensible to summon NEETs and the like who are probably among the mentally weakest of society. Unless that's what you want? A weak loser who will be easy to manipulate and convince to submit to your ploys.

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Is that a fucking dab?

Rate my idea for an isekai.

>succubi accidentally summon a chronic masturbator to use as battery for their magic
>his lust is so off the charts that he turns a small village of succubi into a world power overnight by granting them magic equivalent to a nuke
>the succubi themselves although they feed on sexual energy are pretty vanilla when it comes to their exceptions of sex
>succubi are horrified when they tap into the chronic masturbator's sexual fantasies

Add a reverse harem of new chronic masturbator's each succubi unit could have one to start their conquest of the world.

Sounds like a self-insert fantasy.
Hint: your libido isn't as "off the charts" as you think. It's probably very average.

I want to sexualize Felmina.

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How much do you have to masturbate every day to count as having a libido off the charts?

I masturbate 12 times a day every day

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Depends on your age, but probably

I wonder if Suimei could modify her vessel to have dog ears and a tail. That'd be hot.

Even if it's a solid illusion it would still be worthwhile to bully her.

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It's only easy when it's not you there

Well if you modify the vessel the physical body changes to match it, so it technically should work. Put a collar on her too, hmm thats hot.

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Don't need magic to just put a collar on her. But modifying the body seems like it's more work that it's worth. Just have some sort of sensation for Felmina so she can feel you petting her ears and tail.

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Again, ignoring the meta fantasy, isekai NEETs are powergamers or have disruptive ideas, but are fucked in the head enough to take the standard JPRG quest without question.

A NEET who plays too much DQ/reads too much Xianxia/plays too many gook MMOs and hates themselves is going to jump at the chance to go on a Hero's Journey, even without manipulation.

delet

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In what kind of world that's is an "average looking face"?

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In a world where everyone is drawn by a weeb.

In a world where everyone has jade skin and phoenix eyes.

So am I.
Well, if you want them young enough, yet physically mature, they're more likely to be NEET than working. Also

Maybe it's that leg-raising/stretching thing sumos do.

Or they could be students.

Which makes me wonder why the characters in isekai always have to be NEETs anyway.
It doesn't really affect anything in the story, it's just pandering to the audience that expects it to be a NEET.
Sometimes it even makes more sense if it's a student. Like would a useless no-life hikki NEET really know what crop rotation is?

what kind of bikini is that

I learned about that when I was I dunno, 11 to 13. Something about America's dust bowl. So yes, it's plausible. Even more so with Wikipedia these days.

The "I wanna win the Suimeibowl" Bikini, Type A.

The "god please make the MC fuck me silly i can't take this cockblocking anymore" one

Yeah it's pretty weird, most of those MC written as "average looking" in novels actually looks pretty good actually. Pic related, there's no way these are your average salaryman

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Fuck off essayfags, your meta talk is nothing but old shit here.

Because vast majority LN authors can't write any other type of characters. They have no fucking clue what and how people with, let's say, combat experience think and view the world around. After all, all what typical LN author have seen in his life is anime, school years and, maybe, few years in the institute.

Where are the isekai about summoners, anyway?

Why is Ainz a shota? I thought he was in his late 20s.

>and, maybe, few years in the institute.
mental institute? kek

You know, it's actually a lot more difficult to draw someone who is average, or ugly than someone who is flawless, because you actually have to draw the flaws. So they're attractive due to artistic negligence.

They're actually a random citizen of one of those isekai/reincarnation stories where everyone is a handsome prince.

Season 1 8man from yahari is a ur exemple of a bad looking MC, a shame he got hit by the pretty beam in season 2,

Jap men age well

They didnt wanna draw what his face actually looks like. Pollution where Ainz came from is so bad that Nazis came back as the good guys to do eco terrorism and you can't go outside without a full environmental suit. He probably looks like Abe despite his age.

>slave soldier with no way out
Rereading Aselia after modern isekais make me realized that it made MC go through a lot of bullshits first. It was kind of hardcore compare to new series. Iirc MC was involved with things like nuking a city, killing his own earth friends and a lot of spirit girls.
Current series don't really have the ball for that type of things anymore. Most MCs with not so good situation like that tend to get out of such situations fast.

And so my watch begins.

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wait the nazi shit is legit? wasn't momonga just being a nerd about the HUGO BOSS designs?
Blimey

>suffering in a wish fulfillment, escape from reality genre
user....................................

Both. The Nazi shit is legit and he was being chunni about cyberpunk Hugo Boss designs.

They weren't nazis, they were eco-terrorists who dressed like nazis.

>tfw you'll never get to participate in pagoda-to-pagoda combat
Life sucks.

Is there a better place to have a showdown?
I love pagodas

Swimming through the river of time.

...while engaging in a 4v1 flying pagoda battle

You are courting death.

we must reach the isekai apex user

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Nothing wrong with suffering some good hardships first before slowly getting better

Tell that to overworked Salarymen who read isekai.

The people who read isekai now are too thin-skinned for that.

>broken people that live paycheck to paycheck
>thin skinned

Get off the internet and come back to bed.

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This thread made me remember those crossover Devil Survivor fanfics.

Crossover with what?

>Jin Sahyuk asked for a fight, and Kim Hajin got up without a moment of hesitation. Jin Sahyuk immediately flinched, albeit slightly. She didn’t expect Kim Hajin to fall for such an obvious provocation. Did he have a lot of pent-up stress?
>“W-W-What? You’re down? F-Fine, come at me.”
>Unlike Jin Sahyuk, who was brandishing her arms and legs clamorously, Kim Hajin simply raised his hand and…
>Tak—.
>…gently placed it on Jin Sahyuk’s shoulder.
>“Why would we? We’re friends now, aren’t we?”

It's official: the bullying is over.

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how much of him is chundong again?

Still 15%

The awkward "Pin me down and fuck me but is too shy to straight out as for it" bikini.

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VOLUME 9 FUCKING WHEN

Original LN version of Lefi's hat was amazing.

Soon™.

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Did Lefille masterbate in front of suimei?

>Qidian DMCAs NU mobile app
This is courting death

Yes.

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I found it strange how Lefi was the closest to winning the Suimeibowl but the author just made her irrelevant in later volumes

Little hat will win the bowl.

(male)

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It's interesting and fun reading the references to occult shit.

>Qidian DMCAs NU mobile app
This makes no sense.

Liliana seems quite satisfied with just being his little sister so far.

Based hydemary.

It doesn't need to make sense.

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thehackernews.com/2019/06/vlc-media-player-hacking.html
Came back to spread the news.

Xanadu comfy SOL isekai when?

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have qidian dmcas ever made sense?

You deserve it for using VLC.

>old versions of vlc have a known security vulnerability
Neat. So does everything under the sun. Keep software up to date.

You know what to read.

i use MPC-HC like any respectable user

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穿越未來之男人不好當

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>Not using MPV

>Lefi was the closest to winning the Suimeibowl
By what metric?

Based kim user fighting the good fight

Worth the Candle?

>manga is at first presented as your run-of-the-mill bishoujo fantasy
>plot twist reveals it's an isekai after all
y dey do dis

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Remember if you don't like isekai

Are harems inherently bad? If you don’t like harems, what would make them at least tolerable to you? MC being a hardworking person who earns the love of his harem? Good writing?

>Temuorin's original seiyuu since 3rd story development began -> Godly, perfect, exactly how one would imagine she sounds like.
>new seiyuu because the original one retired from the industry -> only sounds 60% like the original, too light and soft, traces of squeaky pitch ruins the character's majestic aura
Feels bad.

They aren't, but 90% of the time the girls are a cardboard cuttout for sadpanda tags, and the genre has been done to death and beyond.
I myself have build enough of a tolerance to it, so i don't get worked up as much, but to the average newfag it must be grating, especially coming out from the "creme de la creme" of toonami and stuff like jojo or AoT

> It's like handing a nuke to 5 years old and expect that he'll be more reasonable than the 20 yo soldier.
This is a fairly reasonable expectation though. The soldier is more likely than not a huge weeb who is very, very bored and will probably put pillowcase with his waifu on it over the nuke and try to fuck it or some shit.

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It's inherently a genre for wish fulfillment, so I can always feel that as soon as too many characters fall in love with the MC. I don't know if some harems don't do this, but one of the problems is how the people that fall in love can basically be reduced to checklists, in the sense that once they're in love with the MC, they won't fall out of love. It doesn't make them feel like real people if too many people love a single person for too long, and kinda goes back to the wish fulfillment aspect.

I guess to avoid the second issue you could just write a short harem, but the first part always remains in the back of my mind.

I just find them generally replaced actual characters with quantity, especially in anime nowadays where it'll be almost a miracle if they'll even breakthrough 12 episodes.

I like harems most of the time, but they are best when it's not the kind where there is only the obvious one winner declared at the end. True harem that occurs in the middle of the story is better. Ideally a harem will be small enough that there can still be plenty of character interactions between harem members with things that aren't just about how they want the MC's children, even if that is an important topic.

3 girls is the perfect number for a harem

>3 girls is a harem
you are like a little baby

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Harem girls have way more character than some imperfectly designed 2D whore with 3dpd similarities. They are actually naturally beautiful and pure which is a way better personality than 99% of the girls in normalfag shit.

Harem series with too many girls are a bad idea. Try something with more of a focus on chuuni urban fantasy side with some harem elements like campione light novels. Or you can try comfy ones like Rokujouma

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No matter what I do, I can't force files with dual audio tracks to start with Japanese audio and subtitles on, nor can I force the audio to start at 50% rather than 100%. It's a real pain in the ass.

Please, most of it is on the same level as normalfag garbage and you know it, do not delude yourself.

Read metaworld chronicles

You are like a little baby, read this
novelupdates.com/series/starchild-escapes-arranged-marriage/

>became an emperor of a island and owned a harem of tens of thousands of virgins

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>these girls will fall in love with you and consider you to be her soulmate and never be with another man her entire life even if the faggot author decides to go for a single girl ending
>this is supposedly normalfag garbage
Kill yourself, just because you eat and are human garbage doesn’t mean the rest of us are.

Three is the perfect spot for a harem, since you can still give all of them actual attention and personality, and they can balance each other out. Two is breeding grounds for jealousy, and any above 3 just means splitting the attention too thin. Monogamy is still superior.

You dare to pull a purityfag fast one on me, insult me and call me names when i'm trying to maintain a CIVIL DEBATE on the WHY and HOW of the harem genre
Shameful display.

DBZ WISHES it pad as much as the chinks

>Being a haremshitter
isekaifags truly out there outdoing each other for shite nigger tier tastes.

You started off defending entry level normalfags who like garbage like jojo and AoT so of course I must shit on you for that.

Can they add a "reset" section

you know series like New Saga, TDG, revolution of thew 8th class mage, that one manga Yea Forums only reads for the dragon girl, etc. where the MC travels back in time to the point they were still a boy?

>Time Travel & MDs

I did not defended them for christ sake, i gave you a reason why you get threads that complain about harem
It's newfags who came out from their holes, don't know shit about board or anime culture and start shitting on well established genres and tropes
Isekai suffers from that. you are in a thread which one such OP, now i apologize if i didn't word my post better, but its the truth, the lurk for 2 years rule doesn't work on these people.

I'm reading this currently and I am really annoyed that the last couple of volumes are horribly translated.

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>"I am tired of these pathetic NEET MCs why can't there be more Chad MCs getting reincarnated"

>hates Re:monster
>hates Choujin Koukousei-tachi
>hates Shikkaku Mon no Saikyou Kenja

why does Yea Forums keep lying about their tastes?

At least it's not mtl. Also don't forget to read volume X.

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Essayfags don't actually want chad or muderhobos, they simply dislike isekai for the same reason crossborders dislike CGDCTs.

What do japanese writers have against actually describing things. Like when talking about a character they just say something vague like he's a middle aged man and don't describe at all.

When I was a newfag with a life fucked up by normalfags I never watched shit like jojo or AoT I went straight for the series with good character designs like SAO and Sakurasou because that was what I was looking for and surprise to find that series with good looking art and females actually have pure morals to boot. The people you are referring to I would not even want on my board in any way or form and I hope they all die painful deaths.

Mark of a bad author.

>Re:Monster
>chad
If Rou was an actual chad he would just rape the women without caring instead of pumping them full of aphrodisiacs and then reasoning to himself later that it's okay to fuck them.

Why would you write an in-depth description of some middle-aged man that's going to appear once and then never again? Throw in some small character features (fat, facial hair, etc) and let the reader fill in the rest instead of wasting space. You're basically asking why Japs don't pad out their word count even more.

It's a fundamentally lazy language.

Light novels are a partially visual medium. The illustrator will take care of that for them.

>so chad your past life was chad but his former girlfriends are galactic horror yanderes and are coming to get you

>first volume of youjo senki has one hundred fucking thousand words
What the heck, this is not even light novel, it's longer than a normal book.

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I feel it's best to leave it to the imagination, but then again that's coming from a reader of chink novels that uses the same over-elaborate descriptions for everything

>when japs describes a harem girl
>cute girl with red hair she's a rogue

>when chinks describe a harem girl
>heaven toppling beauty with jade-like skin, perfect figure with perfect monds, may not be as beautiful as the other heaven toppling beauty with jade-like skin but still enamors the other murderhobos

what you doing here duckfag, you already payed the tax

Don't leave home in a seifuku?

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Could be worse.
youtu.be/uCmrrQnLDbg?&t=26

Ultimately the Japanese one is more descriptive, since we at least learn her hair color. Chink one is just a line of nothing.

Japs gives you all you need to know about their harem girls
MT described adult Eris as red haired cool beauty with big breast so I'm all like "ok so like Erza, Rias, or a Fire Emblem character" and when the illustrations came out I wasn't off the mark

but chink harem girls always heaven-toppling jade beauties with the exceptions of the lolis which are just described as lolis. They say they have noticeable tits, ass, and hips even in typical chinese clothes but when you get some illustrations they just look like typical chinese girls (aka not having any of them), and there's no distinguishing features at all with their descriptions, you get traps, reverse traps, lolis, slut, glasses girls with big tits, tomboys, cool beauties, yamato nedeskos, western ojou, but with chinese it's just "heaven-toppling beauty with jade skin" or "loli" every time

>It's actually a chad but pretends to be a beta
>It's as much of a battle junkie as the rest of the Campiones but insists that he is a pacifist
I know people hate Godou's hypocrisy, but I found it an amazing character trait.

What about lolis with jade skin?

You're supposed to finish a LN in just a few hours. Fill the novel with descriptions and it will take twice the time and half of the enjoyment.

it's usually "she's still a 10 year old loli but if she grew up she'll be a great beauty"

>MT described adult Eris as red haired cool beauty with big breast so I'm all like "ok so like Erza, Rias, or a Fire Emblem character"
The fact that you have to fill in the character's appearance with somebody else from a different series for lack of sufficient description is a failing of the author, not a success.

Because they all look alike. Yes, even to each other.

Fucking cowards.

Japanese harem girls don't look Japanese.
Chinese harem girls look Chinese, and Chinese look the same.

I wouldn't say that Godou is a true chad. Before the start of the series none of the girls that liked him even tried to get with him. If he was a true chad then they would have done anything up to killing themselves for him.

Not that guy, but are there actual lolis in wuxia novels and shit? Because, my interest would be piqued. I thought chinks only do teen+ jade beauties and never loli heroines.

You probably have to divide that number by 3, since they can take up to 8 katakana where 2 kanji or 1 English word might suffice.

Japanese - tell you practically nothing but the illustrations still match up with the basic features described

Chinese - a lot of words that tell you actual nothing because the illustrations don't even match up with the description given

There's nothing inherently bad with harems, it's just that they are poorly executed most of the time; not that monogamy is necessarily any better.
Unless the genre is explicitly romance/romcom like 5-toubun or bokuben, the big problem with harems is that there is only so much room for romantic focus and development. When you divide this limited space among 3+ characters, suddenly all of the harem members feel like bland doormats with no development whatsoever.

Generally because it's bad writing to unnecessarily overdescribe things unless there's no basis reference point for imagination (e.g. some unique magical entity).

>tfw no peerless jade beauty dual cultivation partner

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How many MCs had over 15 girls confess to them before the novel even started?

Yes.
For example, Against The Gods (which is as xianxia as it gets) has the MC marry a ten-year-old.
Not sure I've ever seen one as the main girl, though; only as haremmates.

Shalom goyenstein

Of course. Chinks love their lolis as much as nips and gooks.

Side harem member, but not a main girl. That's dissatisfying. Does she get a decent amount of focus at least?

But then how would your average zoomer self-insert as the MC?
Part of me hopes that someday there actually is an isekai where some macho seinen protagonist-tier character gets isekai'd, blows off the the harem right away, and wrecks everybody's shit in as little time as possible.

Yeah but they gave up. I'm not saying that Godou is a loser or anything. But if he was a real chad then he wouldn't be a virgin at the start of the story.

If that's true, well, uh, what are some nice reads to start with?

Thanks, motherfucker. I can hear the party van rolling through my rice fields.

Then go write one.

I don't care at least I know what they fucking look like from the description
I begun to realize how cleaver nips are with their moe archetypes. Easy template that ensues no two harem members are alike and they don't even have to say they are beautiful.

RIDE ON KING

All of asia are into lolis, no exceptions
they are a redpilled race

Isekai the MC of Kaze no Stigma, please. He is my ideal chad.

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that's what you get for your thought crimes

brainwashed as emotionless doll just like other anons said
wonder how this would do as a anime adaptation
yeah its the perspective would have been hot if she was giant
i stopped around ch.600 but guess shes content with just being allowed to stay even as a servant
need to catch up rest of backlog and continue reading this such great moments but also all that suffering

Truely courted death.

does she get princess carried by her taller female friends?

they're kinda where realism dies
powerfantasies in the past where usually monogamous, just one love interest trophy and that's it, but now every isekai has a bunch of female tagalongs into the MC. not to mention they replace all other side characters, no best-bros for the MC, no foil for the MC to bounce off of, no reoccuring antagonist to show how far the MC has come, no band of brothers to fuck around with doing guy things, no characters to do what the MC could not/will not do, just more harem girls for the harem MC.

[mount tai didn't like that]

also the harems means the author rarely have time to develop a good romance (unless it's femMC isekai which usually are monogamous)

remember
essayfags are bad
anti isekaifags are even worse
but nativeniggers deserve the rope

After volume 7, Godou wasn't that much of hypocrite with the girls
He was great in vol 10.
Late and post series Godou is really great and a true Chad though.

Mondaiji
Magic in the other world is too far behind
Too bad the translations for the first is slow as all fuck and the author gave up on the second.

>not to mention they replace all other side characters
That's the thing I miss the most. It was so fun seeing the characters traveling around and gathering party members. Nowadays you just have the MC adding more girls to his harem and the typical romcom moments.

>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH HAREM BAD, ME HATE ICKY GIRLS
Kill yourselves back to Yea Forums

Gamei didn't give up, his publisher (Overlap) just won't let him put out Volume 9 for some reason. He still semi-regularly tweets out stuff about Isekai Mahou and how he wants to publish v09, asking people to please wait a little longer.

Well Godou was actively rebelling against his family type in his teenage years though. It's kind of funny that his teenage rebellion was attempting to be normal and ordinary.

there's no one sperging about harems user

What if, all party members are fairly androgynous(maybe they're all 10 year olds or something), and only when the demon lord is defeated, does the MC realise the bros he was with were women all along?

She basically exists as an extension for another character, the actual main girl. So, her character does a little (though is only introduced fairly late into the novel), but every time she's there we're supposed to be thinking about the main girl. So basically, not really.
Also ATG's pretty bad in general so there's also that.

The only other novel that comes to mind with loli romantic interests is Shura's Wrath, which I did enjoy more than ATG. But even though her character was definitely more fleshed out, the romantic aspect was as forced as it gets -- in the epilogue where MC bangs literally every female character in the novel, she's included, even though she was strictly daughteru until that point.

Why not, artist issues?

I'm not sure it's about not being allowed or not, since Overlap already scheduled it twice and then had it slip each time. Who knows what's really happening behind the scenes.

Nobody will say, presumably because they'd get in trouble if they did. I've gone as far as asking JNC staff, including hikoki (the translator), but everyone's dead-silent on it. Illustrator issues seem the most likely because of past troubles with them but nobody will actually give a reason for it.

Going by his tweets, v09 is already finished and ready to go out, so I doubt it's a delay on his end but, again, who knows? I just want it to be released.

can we have a decent thread OP next time?
No essays please

Yeah, if you make one. Templates aren't allowed either.

I can't believe godslayers evolved to planewalkers at the end.
A true sequel with Monika or Leo as the MC when?

So what would you say is a realistic scenario? Keep in mind that the MC is most likely a teenage boy with a healthy sexual appetite. What if MC has already has his serious endgame girl established. But along the way he meets a bunch of over the top gorgeous female adventurers, because ugly/average girls don’t exist. How should he respond to them? Show no interest and be devoted to his main girl, have casual flirting with all of them equally, have varying degrees of interest based on a girl by girl basis?

TIL three lines make an essay

i know i got a vacay thanks to a bakarina thread i mate a few weeks back, templatefag was using the same pic i got

Slime Tensei states that isekai'd human's bodies are broken down into mana when changing world and this process can result in acquisition of skills. There is also basically an industry based around summoning people hoping that one of them will get a good skill.

Because like half of isekai run on video game logic, with RPG stats and shit. It's best to grab someone who's played hundreds of the things so they know how to min-max, instead of some stupid normalfag who would spread his stats evenly.

don't add them at all
or at just make the endgame girl the only one romantically interested in him (the rest either stay single, already in a relationship with MC's bros, or going to be)

>tweet my support to Gamei
>don't expect him to read my message because I'm a dumb gaijin talking to a Japanese man in English
>he read it and he responded, thanking me for supporting Isekai Mahou

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We have drama CDs and that's all we will ever get.

Only if it's Yuuji rubbing the fact that he was 100% right in everyone's faces and telling them they were fucking retarded for opposing him.

you saved the series

Daily reminder that Chinese isekai is made in sweatshops by a child slave labor force. Also they are tools of the Chinese government to undermine democracy and capitalism and brainwash innocent weebs into becoming radicalized communists. Do NOT read Chinese isekai.

Why would stat spread even matter? MCs in those shitty kinds of isekai always get a shit ton of stats anyway. They can afford to be retarded.

I would love an actual isekai romcom
but it's just MC doing his shit while the harem cheerleads and occasionally having sexual tension with his harem

it's even lazier than regular harems which usually focus on how the MC and harem girls react to each other

This. The only time stats matter in this series is when the MC has retarded levels of luck or agility and even then in most cases their other stats are so fucking high that it changes very little.
I can barely remember any MCs who actually had stats builds.

one of those sweatshop laborers will get a mystical item cultivate to the apex and slaughter the owners and all nine generations of their clan

I like the chinese and gook isekai which at least shows the development of those stats from zero to god

jap ones just give all the stats at the first chapter making the numbers and skills not even mean anything

If you got isekai’d into a fairy x dragon relationship, would you rather be the fairy of the dragon?

if genderbent? fairy
if normal? dragon

new chapter just got released

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I knew it, the girl bully had a crush on the fuccboi all along.

That's a damn shame, i hope the author doesn't lose any goodwill from his fans.

>tfw tweeted to FP nigga asking if he's out of the stump
>didn't reply back

You don't get it dog, the chink isekai is their way of protesting
the gods=commie party
young master who dared=the chink guy

Really let down by the situation with that desu, the very short fragment he wrote of the next volume on narou suggests the plot about to go interesting places Stagnate calls in the favor he owes her for her help against the dragon and now he has to travel to the city of the undead or something

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Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear anime when?

Shit man that sounds neato, stagnate is the best girl and more of her teasing will is always good on my book.
Still want him to go on a holy crusade to spread the good word of his goddess tho, Build her a big dumb cathedral and consummate his love for her.

This guy's disappointment in high fantasy magic is amazing.

"YOUR MAGIC IS NOT CHUUNI ENOUGH, GET ON MY LEVEL"

She went about it in an absolutely retarded way though, hurp durp let me completely ruin his self confidence so I can have him all to myself. He'd probably have just disappeared if Usato hadn't come along.

I summon all dead homebrews
give me chapters you cunts i got nothing to read.

They’ve all been isekai’d into a better place.

user please i just want to read a new tiny couples chapter

AYM = entitled sons of party leaders
antagonist sect = commie party
immortality = libertarian ideal of the self-made man
non-human races = non-Chinese races (elves are Americans, demon race are Koreans, invading race that wants to slaughter humanity are the Japanese, etc.)
cultivation = money
mentors = connections

I read a (western) fantasy novel from decades ago that was like that. Mages used mirrors to summon things into their world. They thought they were creating the things they summoned from nothing, but were actually viewing other worlds in the mirrors and taking people from them.
They were facing some ancient evil dark lord or something and summoned some Warhammer 40k marine like guy to save them, only for him to have a mental breakdown at finding himself in a different world and run off somewhere.
iirc he showed up again well adjusted and settled down to live a simple life with some woman, but he didn't get involved in any of the world saving at all.

>missed a thread I actually like

want to respond to Shoujo ML = stalkerish abusive asshole who becomes loyal knight when tamed
Otome ML = misunderstood prince that just wants an interesting waifu and hates complete bitches
Korean ML = insane asshole that MC wants to run away from
Chink ML = stalkerish/rapey asshole who is a complete psychotic murderhobo to everyone except the MC who is also a complete psychotic murderhobo who would probably kill the ML for the constant raping if she didn't enjoy it (if you try to do what the ML does to her without being the ML she'll just kick your ass).

I need to let my high school English teacher knows. She owes me a passing grade. If she's still alive.

>what "cheat" benefit would a mecha being operated by a male pilot bring

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>child slave labor force
Hot.

I just remembered my middle school teacher. She was really nice and encouraged, in the same way you would encourage a retard I guess, when she saw the poem I had to write for her class. I wonder how she would feel knowing I ended up an unemployable neet writing isekai stories for fun.

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If genderbent, the dragon. At least I won't fucking die during childbirth.

I miss Mondaiji, I should just read the LN

This was a nice thread. It's been such a long while since I discussed Okureteru with anybody, so this was refreshing. Enjoy the rest of your night, anons. And work on your own isekais.

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At least you're still writing. I had a crush on my middle school lit teacher, though her christianity turned me away. She'd probably be really sad that I don't even write or draw any more.

If you haven’t already, then why are you still here? Honestly though, go do it. It’s at least better than the constant copy/paste checklist shit coming out these days.