Sarazanmai final episode

He killed two guys.

I always thought Kanba should go to jail instead of erasing himself and Shouma should basically go fuck destiny by becoming a decent person despite his parents were terrorists. Sarazanmai fixed Penguindrum's mistakes

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Don't investigations and trials take a while? He might have been 14 by the time his sentence started.

Then he fucking sucks at that. Enta doesn't care for Toi - he wanted him gone. He's probably still jelly of all that sweet alone time Kazuki gives him. Why would he be buddies with Toi for reasons other than pity? Kazuki is buds with Toi because? Because Toi is his new plaything he can cast away once he gets bored, like he did with Enta?

In self defense. In my country, he would probably be in the clear, given his tender age an all.

>expecting bonds of like a month to compare to familial

Yeah, apparently two years or so, since 少年刑務所 is for boys over 16. Or maybe it's fantasy prison or something.

Actually, most of his depicted familial bonds really are mad strong. And half of them are so strong they dribe the people involved crazy.

Madoka

He did a really shit job of it then considering that if you look at this critically, there is no reason Toi is better off in the ending than he was when Chikai was alive.

why whole ed was given to this and with the usual structure of the after credits scenes this just looked jarring. This just seemed like out of place in an Ikuhara show. Criminal getting what he deserves and going to the regular jail? Wow that just what I wanted to see in the FINAL EP. Really makes you think.

I for one am not disagreeing with your opinion that the boys’ relationships and connection with one another weren’t built up properly enough for us to be able to process and empathize with just how much they mean to each other, but Chikai’s whole role in the story was clearly a criticism of the mindset that you should stick with and be influenced by someone just because they’re “supposed” to and you’re bonded by blood with them, even if that person is horrible at executing this role and shows his love for and his bond with you in some of the worst ways he possibly could. Chikai had to leave Toi’s life in order for Toi to finally realize that this mentality is an unhealthy one.

The other user talked about under 14 rather than under 16. Who's right?

Can we agree that the opening is fucking great? That lead guitar pleases me

>doing time is no better than a life of killing and crime
Yeah, ok.

I can't believe my incestbros are going this hard even after the ending. Based.

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>but Chikai’s whole role in the story was clearly a criticism of the mindset that you should stick with and be influenced by someone just because they’re “supposed” to and you’re bonded by blood with them,
While it is true that this was the intention, the execution was fucking terrible. You would probably need an entire show to explore just how deep that sort of bond runs because it's not just familial in the East Asian sense, there's also an element of organized crime. It's ride or fucking die when you put those two together. Some shitty superficial friendship is not going to begin to undo that.

And then there's the third irreconcilable element of there being no logical reason for Toi to be happier in the present day. This was just a blunder from start to finish.

by deserve I meant what they usually get in this situations

I doubt he was judged by murder because everybody think Chikai committed those crimes and even if Toi confessed, the court could put the blame on Chikai because he had a reputation as a violent criminal and Toi was a confused kid. Nevertheless Toi was a drug dealer and that's a big deal in Asia. Fortunately, he's underage

I'm not even against the idea of Chikai leaving/dying - it's just his 'replacement' is some discounted good that breaks after the first use. A really shitty way of using the theme of 'moving on with life'.
>your bro's dead, but worry not! haha you've exchanged one (1) crappy relationship for two (2) equally crap ones! equivalent exchange haha!

All the music is excelent

Not discussing the writing quality but the theme clearly wasn't an exploration of the social dynamics of organized crime families.
So your complaint is that Toi should have been sadder at the end?

The SNS leaks, especially the last three or four ones, showed they could have ok chemistry, but it was mostly based on the interactions between Toi and Enta, whose relationship fizzled out and never reached its potential after that phone call. Kazuki has the charisma of a wet blanket, but unfortunately he's the protagonist, so all connections have to go through him.

>you get fucked by fat, smelly guards vs you fuck the hottest bitches in town.
I can't choose, truly.

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I will never give up. Ikuhara fucking did them dirty.

While theoretically Toi's record should be wiped because he's a minor, it's entirely possible that employers will find out about his past via background checks. Having spent time in a facility, he likely will not have a normal high school degree, only an equivalent assuming he even finished his education in juvie (most likely he would have). College and gainful employment are both out. He would likely be disowned by his remaining family. He doesn't have any marketable skills outside of organized crime, and he's lost his one foot in the door where that's concerned.

Yeah, he actually was better off in organized crime.

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Not only his brother, but also his sworn brother.
A BOND STRONGER THAN MARRIAGE

I've had it in my head since yesterday. This one too. youtube.com/watch?v=Yie8xAnSt1c

Yep, and a willing participant and accomplice in violent crimes.

>Toi was a drug dealer
Do they even had evidence? Chikai was running it. The worst they could accuse him of is not informing the authorities about it.

Toi got out at 16 so he can still attend normal high school and further his studies.

The theme wasn't that, but that's why it all falls so horribly flat. You kind of need to pick a dynamic that fits your theme if you want this to come together in a believable way. This wasn't it.

You can't have two born-and-raised brothers with connections to organized crime, kill one off, then have the other be inexplicably okay with life because he has two "friends" that have nothing in common with him. There are ways to explore or critique familial loyalty and this is not it.

Well, it is an anime so it’s kind of a given that the consequences of the situations at hand the boys and, in this case Toi were subjected to wouldn’t really feel as heavy and drastic as they would if you picture this in a more hyper-realistic sense. But this was probably the most straightforward show Ikuhara has directed so far and nothing throughout the show indicated that it would ever stray off of that, so I think the resulting message at the end of the day was clear and simple enough for us to understand where Ikuhara was coming from, and so with that I’m not really all that dissatisfied. I do wish that everyone had been characterized a bit more though and I’m not going to disagree that this was pretty weak compared to his other projects

Not that user, but, yes.
Either be realistic and show Toi's life as being shit or miraculously make Toi happy by deus ex machina, example, his brother comes back to life, but has amensia; Toi's long-lost sister shows up and she's a rich ojousama who likes spoiling her little brother etc.

>importance of financial prospects > importance of not shooting dudes
Well, I see why you have a problem with prisons. Glad you don't know where I live.

stand by me aMEAGARI

Most Japanese high schools are probably going to be extremely reluctant to take a kid with a record. Remember, you have to apply to get into high schools there, and they can reject you for any reason they see fit.

Toi would most likely have to finish his education in a non-traditional setting, like centers for troubled children. That is not going to look good on a record or resume. Again, college and gainful employment are still out. Japan completely ruins kids that fuck up early in life.

Courts around the world are softer with minors, especially if they're guided by a bad influence in the family. Except maybe in the land of the free and only with the negro kids

Universities are not free in Japan. Further education is out of question, unless he pulls an Otonashi.

Bow down to the King and the Queen.

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Go back to hell, Angelo.

But minors are protected in Japan. In fact they probably arranged a high school for him to go to.

I'm not exactly sure what I wanted to see but the ending was too sweet for me. Everyone was happy. Even the murderer just goes to juvy for a few years in a quick time skip and everyone is waiting for him. A tiny bit of bitterness wouldn't have hurt.

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All hail

Assuming you're right, the average Japanese viewer knows that already and the show doesn't need to waste time showing it.

The worst part about this is Sara's half naked human proportioned body in contrast to that head.

What influence did Shuji Terayama have on Kunihiko Ikuhara as a director. I know he used the same composer as him in Utena but what besides that?

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>implying he even died

>financial prospects
Buddy, that's his fucking life. "Financial prospects" are getting fed, being housed, having your basic needs met, everything.

Also you keep bringing up killing people without even acknowledging that most organized crime isn't that. The first time he shot someone he wasn't even part of the yakuza, he was a child and it was self-defense. If Toi were to grow up within the yakuza he probably wouldn't be killing people on any sort of regular basis.

Minors are protected from the media. You can't release a minor's name in connection with a crime in a media publication. Where everything else is concerned, they're on their own.

this is the worst WEG I’ve ever seen

This. After watching the finale I realized how much I wanted a dramatic conclusion. Ikuhara didn't deliver.

He's right though

>A tiny bit of bitterness wouldn't have hurt.
Chikai dying and staying dead isn't enough? Look at all the mad over his death.

Pretty much. He would probably peddle 'drugs', which are not even illegal in several countries like he used to. Whoa! Truly wicked.

The future vision show Toi doing fine, minus his breaking up with his friends. Japanese soccer is so poor that they can get whatever they can. In fact, sports in general usually take kids from very poor backgrounds and even with some criminal record because they're the ones who are willing to break their bodies for a contract. They have no other choice

Husbandofags are subhumans, they don't count.

It had no consequences on Toi (or at least they weren't shown), so it's hardly 'bitter'.

His parents ran a soba restaurant he wouldn't necessarily get higher education regardless. He's not the only kid in Japan not to go to uni.

Not that user but you act like being surrounded by a bunch of drug trading money laundering criminals who’ve probably all killed one person at the least isn’t stifling and won’t fuck you up in the head.

Looks like goalpost moving. Are you nos claiming you just want him to have the "basic needs met" like food and shelter? Then he obviously has those things.
>If Toi were to grow up within the yakuza he probably wouldn't be killing people on any sort of regular basis.
Very reassuring. Would you volunteer to be one of his irregular kills?

*Are you now

He would have if he used his brother's money.
>bro pays for Toi's law degree
>now Toi's the official yakuza lawyer
>gets even more cash than Chikai
>Chikai buys a villa in Thailand and moves there with Toi
>set for life

Most of them probably haven't killed a person. Killing people isn't the yakuza's job, it's usually a last resort when somebody fucks up colossally hard. Also, how would that fuck somebody up any worse than having no prospects in life and being a homeless bum?

Do you know anything whatsoever about the yakuza? If Toi were to kill anybody, the circumstances for this would either probably be him volunteering for that or a job gone wrong. He most likely would either be trafficking drugs or smuggling weapons.

Still better than having them gone and having no family left.

>You can't release a minor's name in connection with a crime in a media publication
Remember how Chikai and Toi found out Enta had been shot?

Even Chikai's final moments were him telling Toi he wasn't good for him.

Or hustling panpan women.

High school is optional too over there.

user, you can release their name if they're the victim, not if they're the fucking perpetrator.

That too.

Jesus you’re like a fucking broken record.
>Also, how would that fuck somebody up any worse than having no prospects in life and being a homeless bum?
But he’s not you autistic degenerate incestfag
You try living in that kind of environment with a shitty borderline abusive brother and see what that does to your psyche.

>a shitty borderline abusive brother
Oh, you're a retarded tumblrfag. This finale apologism makes sense now.

Toi would have no fucking realistic prospects in life, his "friends" aren't friends, and you're a retarded purityfaggot. Off yourself.

Wow. So mad. Take your pills. Maybe it's not the right website for you.

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We don't know much about Chikai's "job" but sure, feel free to answer on your terms. You wanna have him volunteer to kill you in connection with a job gone wrong?
>how would getting shot dead by a kid criminal fuck somebody up worse than being a homeless bum
Wow you got me there.

Holy shit, I just noticed their tails.

Works out until Garfield comes back for more kush and they're found out. Not very foolproof.

>We don't know much about Chikai's "job" but sure,
The show said he was part of a fraud ring, and we know Toi grows weed. Neither of these things suggest either of them would be icing people on a regular basis. The yakuza in general does not ice people on a regular basis.

I knew that you would pick that out and ignore the rest of what I wrote because you’re focused on this one single aspect of the show for no reason. It seems like you’re only mad because your headcanon got obliterated and the brothers didn’t fuck onscreen.
Why is this the hill you want to die on? There are so many other aspects of the show that you could pick on

Purityfaggots make an exception for violent crime as long as it's a cute young lad, much like you're doing.

>series chooses a dynamic that doesn't fit the theme it's trying to convey
>series attempts to push a shitty shallow happy ending when there's no reason any of this would be happy
>somehow this amounts to me just being mad because the brothers didn't fuck
This is what I'm choosing to discuss because this is what stands out to me most out of all the fuckups in the show.

Show me where I made any sort of exception for violent crime.

>It's a pain in the ass, trying to connect
I don't think so user, more like Chikai was expressing his regret at not being there for Toi

I'm surprised they were playing against the Peruvian soccer team during their future flash, that's pretty obscure material to use.

Bro, their crime scenes were focused around shooting people and forcing their heads underwater. Go make a post about yakuza studies to say it's unrealistic if you like, but in this fictional story it's clear what kind of life it's about.

>not disillusioned by what a life of crime does to a person makes them a purityfag

user either you’re from a comically crime free country or you don’t go outside much

>all this chikai discussion
So you guys finally realize he's more interesting than a majority of the cast.

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It's more like one anikifag that can't handle that his younger brother is able to move on after his death.

Help me here, what's the "desire" and "love" thing really means?

No, his fags are cancer and had to make a new thread right away to continue bitching about the narrative making sense.

Threatening =/= killing. Threatening is plenty common among the yakuza, but killing is always a last resort because it's a fucking pain in the ass to deal with.

>thinking that smuggling drugs is somehow more psychologically damaging than having no family, no prospects, and no fucking anything whatsoever
I cannot believe you're actually buying into this shitty narrative the show fed you.

Not a majority. The entire cast, which is why he and Toi really shouldn't have been in Sarazanmai.

Exception, as in they're not okay with nonviolent sexual harassment, for ex.
And the dynamic is fine and made sense.

>series attempts to push a shitty shallow happy ending when there's no reason any of this would be happy
But that’s only what you think. You might think it’s crazy but I think that any sensible person would rather choose the of someone who has overcome his past hardships and will continue to move on with his life regardless of whatever will be thrown at him because of his past over the life of someone stuck within those hardships just to stay binded by the person he thinks he’s supposed to love.

>it's a fucking ESLtard

so how many cocks did toi suck in prison?

Why fucking Peru. Why not Argentina, England, Spain, or Italy.

I guess you just can’t read huh

I don't think it's crazy, I think it's shitty writing that shies away from what this dynamic should have honestly been. There are ways to show a person breaking away and moving on from a dynamic that was hurting them, looking toward a brighter future, and this was not it.

It's also worth pointing out that this whole idea of Toi moving on and being okay is completely undermined by the fact that he didn't even choose to leave Chikai. Chikai had to be shot dead in order for their relationship to end. I can't think of any stupider way to demonstrate Toi's need to break away. It wasn't even a need at that point, it was something he was forced to do by extenuating circumstances.

>Exception, as in they're not okay with nonviolent sexual harassment, for ex.
This is not a coherent sentence, ESLfaggot.

Poor guy they left with a bullet in his head got threatened and smuggled to death, huh.
Can you pick one argument instead of toggling between "it was nbd" and "who gives a fuck how many people you hurt, it's your happiness that matters"?

>"who gives a fuck how many people you hurt, it's your happiness that matters"
But we are discussing Toi's happiness

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>look up japanese juvies
>“Many of these juveniles are pretty much just like any other minor … except they do tend to be a little more immature than average and have a hard time connecting with society and other people,” Hayashi says. “They basically need help to grow up.”
>have a hard time connecting with society and other people
Hue

>Minors are given an opportunity to get a high school certificate or become qualified in a variety of fields, from word and data processing to welding and driving a forklift. Officials believe such education enables a juvenile offender to start a new life outside the walls of the correctional facility once they are released.

The opening, the ending and this ost youtube.com/watch?v=huj3toEupCo are 10/10

While I do think the Kuji brother's relationship is far more interesting than Toi's friendship with the other two boys. It looks like they want Toi to sodoku or have the brothers get an ending like Kanba and Shoma.

>Minors are given an opportunity to get a high school certificate
Before anyone mistakes this for an actual diploma, it's basically the equivalent to a GED.

Not for you.

We hear that desire is life and that you shouldn't let go of it. I think it's like that idea where you need to continuously reach for something, otherwise your life becomes meaningless once you've attained what you wanted. Love seems to be selfless, while desire is selfish.

Yes, because I actually speak English as a first language. Fuck off, spic.

The sentences makes perfect sense, but I could see an idiot like you not being able to understand it

Either of those would've been better than what we ultimately got, but what I really think is that they shouldn't haves been in this show period. 11 episodes with split focus was never going to be enough to do their relationship justice.

High school is optional in Japan so it’s a pretty nice deal

High school is technically optional in the US too, but it still hurts your prospects massively to not have completed it in a traditional setting. You can drop out if you want to but you still need to have a rock solid contingency plan if you want to have some semblance of a decent life.

>forcing their heads underwater
This is how debt collection works. Japan has a low homicide rate.

Yes.
Him and Toi do not fit in this show. I don't know what went wrong, but they should have thought twice before jumbling together different genres in a single cour anime.

No one said it was equivalent to homicide, but it's a violent crime.

>goalpost moving
What happened to the psychological strain of being surrounded by murderers? Now it's just violent crime?

>shies away
More like pussies out. What happened to Enta's unrequited love? He gets cured of homosexuality! What happened to Toi's life? He's fine, guys! Not cutting himself and drowning his mental issue in booze, totally not!

>two different posts by different anons replying to different comments
>goalpost moving

>driving a forklift
Fanart of Toi the Forklift Driver where.

No kidding. Toi and Chikai's colossal mishandling bothered me more, but Enta's storyline was just as bullshit. No fucking acknowledgement or resolution of his feelings whatsoever.

>I can't follow a thread so that makes you the dumbass

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Thirty seven.

>*you can't follow the thread so that makes you the dumbass

>No fucking acknowledgement or resolution of his feelings whatsoever.
And this in a show about connections. The fuck, Ikuhara. COMMIT TO SOMETHING AND STICK TO IT.

>missing the point this badly
No wonder you like Sarazanmai.

>thread is about murder and how murder actually relates to the yakuza and how it might influence Toi's mindset
>BUT VIOLENT CRIME IN GENERAL YOU GUYS
Fuck off

aniki did NOTHING wrong, did EVERYTHING for toi and I will ALWAYS miss him

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>ywn purify aniki and make him be your househusband

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You literally either did not follow the thread or are stupidly misunderstanding at least one of replies you got. Capslock don't change that.

I kept waiting for Kazuki to say something, anything about Enta kissing him and it never happened. Why do people defend this? Connections somehow ended up being the weakest, most poorly written aspect of this entire fucking show.

Based

That was obviously meant to be explored in the sequel movie, The Adolescence of Enta. sounds like a porno

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Damm Enta's glasses got no temples.

B-but at least it looks beautiful!

>same VA
Funny but you already knew anyway.

No amount of insisting you did not fuck up is going to change the fact that this was initially about correcting the misconception that the yakuza goes around killing everybody and that Toi would be constantly surrounded by murderers. Violent crime in general was not the topic. Nobody at any point denied that threats and violence are often a part of the yakuza lifestyle, the discussion was about murder.

>Connections somehow ended up being the weakest, most poorly written aspect of this entire fucking show.

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Endgame where, brothers?

Masa did nothing wrong

Enta as the MC would make more sense.
>Adolescence of Enta
>Enta gets over his animosity towards Tooi
>Enta accepts that his love for Kazuki is futile
>Enta moves on

Knew what? Did TsudaKen voice him in a drama cd? I didn't see anything about an anime announcement.

user, no amount of "no u" and general statements changes the fact that two people responding to different comments is not goalpost moving.

It’s both retard

In a way it's not all that surprising that connections were the most poorly handled aspect of Sarazanmai since Ikuhara has a hard time being straightforward and human relationships are best unclouded by surrealism and portrayed as raw.

He shot himself in the foot by not wanting to compromise on his style too much even if this was comparatively his most straightforward work.

Drama CD or some AD. You can google it up if you want to listen.

Sure, we can change it from "goalpost moving" to "irrelevant fucking bullshit that had nothing to do with anything" if that makes you feel better.

Right here, brother

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His daydreaming would also come in handy to make the series more surreal.

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Glad we're clear it's not goalpost moving.
>taking ten words to say "irrelevant"
I mean, they were both responses to your comment threads, so if that's what you want to call it.

>completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand
>w-well it was a reply to what you said so there
That's a weird way to try and save face but okay.

Ok this actually looks hot, doujins when?

shut up

He will become an unemployed bum but his boyfriends will get good jobs and feed and fuck him so happy ending.

>inb4 it was all in Enta's head, Keppi and zombies never existed

Not soon enough ;_; Here's the artist's twitter if you're interested. I like her adult KazuToi stuff.

twitter.com/piro_spica

>save face
Kek, do you really care about face here? No wonder you think it's weird.
I'm just pointing out your wording can be read as implying your own discussion is irrelevant.

It really can't unless you're dyslexic, and if you didn't care about saving face you wouldn't be making this retarded attempt at justifying your completely moronic attempt at contributing to the discussion.

>feed and fuck him so happy ending
You know what. You are onto something. Just turn the story on its head and make a nihilistic ending in which Toi guilttrips Kazu and Enta into providing for him, since Chikai's dead because of Enta and both of them prevented him from suiciding, so it's only right for you guys to take care of me for the rest of my life, eh? When you pick up a stray cat you become responsible for it, remember what giri is? I'm not leeching off you, you're simply repaying your debt.

>adult KazuToi
They look straight out of a BL.

How exactly are you contributing to the discussion in derailing the thread like this along with Shut up already

What is this juvy bullshit ending for Toi?
Where's the fucking magic Ikuraha?
WHERE IS THE FUYCKING MAGIC?

You're not replying with anything of value either.

No magic for Ikuhara's hatepet. How he must hate Toi and for what? Toi did nothing wrong.

>dyslexic
user, what are you on about? Do you have any idea what dyslexia is?
>justifying your completely moronic attempt at contributing to the discussion.
Wow, what an argument. Buddy, this started with you claiming two anons replying to two topics you started was goalpost moving. Now we're clear it's not. There's no discussion left, except for you trying to change the subject to me being a dyslexic moron, to "save face" I guess, since you keep using that phrase.

Sequel where Toi get's out of prison even worse and becomes the best Yakusa boss his brother could never be and kills his aunt and uncle when?

I’m telling you to shut up, you’ve gone completely off the topic at hand and you’re both just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point. Not like I’d expect much better from Yea Forums anyway though

It would be called Young and Dangerous.

Do you think the show would have been more popular if they looked like this from the start?

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It’d be less popular.

I don't think that was one of the arguing anons.

Too generic. Younger Toi is prettier.

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I remember reading he wanted this series to be more grounded, but don't quote me on that.

Fuck Ikuhara, the faggot hasn't done anything good since Penguin Terrorists and now he fucking murders all the character story arcs in this shitty Kappa but-fetish-fanfiction-tear-government-anti-weed-propaganda-excuse for an anime.
Fuck him.

Their designs still look young, they just seem handsome because the younger versions are turboshota

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>anti-weed-propaganda

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>Nihilistic to be a househusband and have a hot nerd and crossdressing retard double team your holes every night.

>butt-fetish
Yes, and?
>anti-weed-propaganda
Imagine being this butthurt that your magic cancer curing herb wasn't a hero.

God, I hope Toi ends up resembling his mother.

Personally, I'm against bigamy.

Pleb

>gets disowned by his aunt and uncle
>parents commit suicide
>brother becomes a criminal and maybe was going to kill you
Why is Toi family so shitty?

This is a chad harem, not a virgin secret wife.

>gets disowned by his aunt and uncle
When? He ws living with them.

After doing time.

This face is screaming
>I hate myself and I want to die

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Huh, I thought it was onegai

He's the one who stopped, hesitated and chose to walk away. I took that as him not being ready to come home, not him knowing he was unwelcome.

Yeah. More low power-level fujos would watch a show about high school boys.

This is how 'eating alone' looks like in canteens.
He's truly fucked.

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Shaved Tooi is beautiful

He would look good as a monk.

I found that scene weirdly hot.

>What happened to Enta's unrequited love?
Wasnt the whole point of the future sequence to show that Enta's future with Katsuki is gonna end in tragedy but they accept the connection anyway? How did you get that his gayness was cured? I agree though that Enta and his shit needed more time and the conclusion was mediocre at best.

I think I get it now, Yea Forums.
Toi's suicide attempt at the bridge was successful - the happy images that follow is the afterlife. Notice how Keppi and Sara are back.

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the sequence are futures they adverted because they aren't the same peope they were at the beginning of the show

Masa couldn't keep his fat mouth shut, blabbermouths get bullets

Because he was getting gripped by the hair by a big strong man, because he was being humbled by having his head shaved like a fallen woman, or other?

I interpreted that more like Kazuki being a drama queen again and breaking up the golden combi. The scene composition is similar to the one towards the end of episode 8 when he does the same thing.

I could honestly barely register a difference between their pre- and post-timejump character designs.

Go back, gangster.

>Toi's suicide attempt at the bridge
He wasn't sodokuing.

ThinnerEnta was noticeable but otherwise, same.

Keppi and Sara didn't die.

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Was that supposed to be an insult?

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He was. He said that he's life was done for moments before jumping.

They left to another galaxy. The point is, they are not here anymore.

That or a statement of fact.

NOT A SUICIDAL MONOLOGUE

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That's an intentional tease at what it's made to look like.

Fakeout

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Thanks. So is the anime against desire?

You know, I was expecting Enta and Kazuki to greet him as soon as he left prison, but his monologue makes it sound like they didn't even communicate all those years.

Not true.
Notice how resigned he sounds.

Plus no idiot would jump into
1) a river
2) from this height
and
3) without cooling his body in water first.

Clearly, a suicide attempt.

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No, since it gives your life meaning. It's just another face of love, so it's ok to be both selfish and selfless.

They were all near their friendship soccer spot at the same hour so I'd wager it was planned

Damn, Kazuki looks... like THIS??

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>incestfag seething that Toi has a positive future without his aniki

So a triple suicide attempt. That's friendship.

Cool. Thanks again, user.

Convincing acting makes it a successful audience troll dummy. It's anime.

One day you will come to terms that Toi wants to move on without his brother.

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>posing with the squad after my suicide attempt

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Not really. He was alone. Kazuki and Enta are his last visions before his brain dies or this is his afterlife.

Ikufag should have just named this shit "Everybody hates Toi"

I want to give this to Enta as a birthday present!

He moved on here but there is nothing in the future waiting for him. He takes the most logical set of actions.

Nah, no emo end for him.

I think it is the the dead look in his eyes as it happens.

This still doesn't explain

>Plus no idiot would jump into
>1) a river
>2) from this height
>and
>3) without cooling his body in water first.

Aniki wanted his brother to move on without him, too.

Fuck I guess Kazuki and Enta were trying to die too then.

No it's you projecting on him. He isn't suicidal nor was it a suicide attempt.

Asenshi subs are out.

Reminder, it's all very simple

Prove it.

...

Dropped
If I desired realism as in "criminals must serve time" I would watch burger tv and not anime.
Ikuhara really dropped his ball in this.

Fucking kek.

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you're the one projecting. just because you're not suicidal doesn't mean he is

This must be right:
Fucking Ikuhara can't stop shitting on Toi. Like, how can you torment a character so much for no reason. He's worse than Urobuchi.

Looks like all the tirade about Toi's bad end just some weird misunderstand about the scene at the bridge.

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That's not a proof. What are you trying to say? Articulate your argument in text.

>misunderstand
Explain how it's a misunderstanding. All evidence points to

Prove yours.

They reunite in a river because kappas live in rivers.

Incestfags are proving to be more delusional than Enta.

Toifags confirmed brainlets
why the most mature characters have fanbases like this

I already did here:
- suicidal monologuing
- more suicidal monologues, Toi disregards all health and safety
- Keppi and Sara left for some unknown destinations, Keppi is in his kappa from, Keppi holding a plate with the word 'next'

It's cute.

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It was all a dream

>Wished for there to be Sarazanmai threads after the series
>expecting comfy
>threads are just rekt incestfags

Cutest characters have fanbases like this. If Toi looked like Haruka's cat in human form do you think it would even exist

Goodnight, sweet prince, you mean?

Thanks but that's compatbile with other user's interpretation too, which is a better match with the tone and themes.

Keppi and Sara can do whatever the fuck they want and be wherever the fuck they want
And you are forgetting Reo and Mabu are there with new jobs. Why would Toi have dellusions about them and their new jobs?

Don't lump good honest degenerates who just want doujins in with this.

i want to smell enta's farts

>ignoring the most important shot of the episode
It brings everything full circle.

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Cute boys don't fart.

Incestfags can't do logic.

Dangerously cheesy but makes sense.

i bet enta has the stinkiest farts!

The only thing the finale missed was an actual reconciliation between Reo and Mabu. The rest was perfect.

Enta isn’t cute.

I wished for that too but I’m happy enough that they’re back and didn’t get their memories erased. I bet the realm inside those rings is covered in ningyoyaki baby batter.

>a better match with the tone and themes
Are you sure? Let's see.
Themes:
-life of crime, 'eat others so as not to be eaten';
-your way of life dictates how you'll end up (determinism);
-friendship cannot get you out of deep shit;
-bonding with others leads to death (Chikai was right);
-redemption and forgiveness - if you've strayed from the right path, there is no redemption and no leniency or mercy for you (Ikuhara is channeling Japanese conservatism like holy shit, just retire already);
-nothing can replace a person's family (this goes for all three boys);
-if your relationship is fucked, there is nothing you can possibly do to fix it (Reo and Mabu);

Tone - quite grim during:
-Chikai's death
-Toi's first homicide
-Toi's parents sudokuing
-Reo's rampage on the bridge

Why not? You're still disregarding the first two posts.

>wahhh it's not getting mindlessly praised so I'll try to poison the well against "incestfags" like a tumblrfaggot
The finale was irredeemable shit and you know it.

Yeah I thought they would only like a 15-30sec panning frame of them sleeping as kappa or human just enough to show they will revive eventually. There was more than I expected.

You could just make one post you know

Bringing up points about issues with the story isn't the problem. It's clear that one user is confused by the scene at the bridge.

Only two of these are me.

Kazuki has the nicest farts from eating cucumber all the time.

My point still applies.

Retard

The bridge scene was the least of the shitty finale's problems honestly

Toi didn't get a bad end and he isn't suicidal. Deal with it.

How do incestfags exist when there was no incest? Why can't they take the crackship being btfo peacefully like the entoi shippers etc?

Prove it.

How about Toi?
We have to do a rank on nicest farts.

I didn't say anything about him being suicidal you colossal retard, I don't give a fuck about the bridge scene. The ending he got was horribly written and made no sense when you take into account his actual circumstances. Ikuhara didn't just drop the ball, he pretty much powerbombed it into the ground and walked away.

>Retard
But how

>incestfags
>being used in a pejorative sense
Wanna know how I know some of you aren't from here?

Yea Forums is truly dead.

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>being used in a pejorative sense
Where

My post had nothing to do with the other two you quoted. Stop being mad that the finale isn't getting mindless praise.

How do soba farts smell?

...

You seem to be the disproportionately maddest one in this thread, user.

Doesn't actually have to do with incest as a fetish but anikifags being annoying fucks.

So I looked into this, Azuma-bashi (bridge) is only 20 meters tall. Compared to a competitive high dive platform, which is at 27 meters, that is certainly a survivable fall.

It was a suicide attempt, but Toi intended to let himself drown or be taken by the undertow. He was saved however by his friends arriving, reminding him that despite everything he does have connections in this world, that he's not alone.

Pretty straight forward honestly

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There's nothing wrong with Toi moving on with his life after his brother died.

>n-no u

Because you're delusional, not because you like incest. Ikuhara did not pander to you this time, get the fuck over your dead crackship.

>thread so bad mspaint user won’t post kappa porn

Feels bad

In theory not at all, in practice, it was godawful. The concept isn't the issue, it's the execution.

Fuck off back to tumblr.

I would think that pretty bad.

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So I guess the message is...if you attempt suicide and are unsuccessful at least put on a fake smile, stiff upper lip all that stuff?

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Where's reaction user?

Exactly.
My original reply had nothing to do with the show. Life must be tough for you if you’re this delusional.

Probably something like this

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From best to worst: Kazuki's cucumber farts -> Enta's cum farts -> Toi's soba farts

Honestly most people who attempt jumping suicides live anyway. The average person doesn't know what reasonably accessible height is going to kill them and a suicidal person who's already on-location isn't going to take the time to google it and googling isn't always entirely helpful anyway. The height of the bridge isn't a good way to determine whether or not Toi had suicidal intent because most people who attempt suicide in the first place usually hurt themselves instead of killing themselves.

The official twitter's icon changed from 欲 to 望.

I'm delusional because your samefag radar is broken?

The river was cold and deep and the day was hot. Do the math.

So does that mean they’re still running it or what

Personally I have no feelings on what Toi's intentions were because I had mentally checked out by that point of the shitty finale anyway, I'm just saying that the height of the bridge isn't necessarily a good indicator of suicidal intent since most people can't accurately say how far they'd need to fall in order to probably die.

I can imagine Entas underwear having a really bad stench with dried cum and his cum farts from random Brazilian guys on Grindr.

I’m just going to assume at this point that you’re not even trying to comprehend what you’re reading and you’re trying to shit the thread up as much as possible. Fuck off already or get back on topic

It's been retweeting up a storm for the finale of course, but I suspect will it slow down a lot, but not die completely.

"On-topic" to some of you means only saying nice things about the series and confining any negativity to one post, like you demanded earlier. Admit it, you want a hugbox, not an on-topic thread.

Who cares? Go pick up a football.

Alright, you can keep thinking that if you want to user, as long as you stop spamming the thread with this bullshit

At least you don't deny you guys were hoping for a hugbox.

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I’m gonna hug your box

You stay out of there, that's where I keep my gun.

>crackship
okay retard

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Reaction guys when

>Toi was really a subhuman

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Who the hell is this?

>aniki incestfag BTFO
>Kazuki NO WAY FAG'd Enta as seen in the future segment
Pretty good ending desu
Would've been better if the fujo pandering gay cops remain dead

>Would've been better if the fujo pandering gay cops remain dead
FUCK YOU

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>Kazuki NO WAY FAG'd Enta as seen in the future segment
the future segment represents a future they preveneted because they aren't the same people they were on the beginning, Reo and Mabu spell it out

The gay cops are here to stay to flaunt their homo lifestyle

What the fuck happened to Haruka?

what kind of retard use boots like those anyway

It’s a nice detail that their kappa poses were actually their kicking styles

Was adopted by Sara and her dads

Sara kidnapped him. Kidnapping runs in the family.

Does anyone have a gif of the gates opening and the A stairs flipping over?

I will always want to cum in aniki!

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I will always want aniki to cum in me!

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Based

>twitter.com/pappy_soldir1st/status/1141824417049088000

Apparently the hotel in the background was demolished. But it was replaced by a ryokan that finished being built the same day as the last ep.

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The details in the some of the show's tributes and references are amusing.

funny and frustrating how the landscape was drastically changing while they were working on the series considering how much care they put into making the twitter and manga look like old Asakusa

I happened to watch 10 and 11 back to back and dammit, the way that was handled just kinda wiped out any lasting impact. I was so upset but 15 minutes later it wasn't even a problem.

>, there is no redemption and no leniency or mercy for you (Ikuhara is channeling Japanese conservatism like holy shit, just retire already);
holy shit
user, it's you who needs to retire already

I know what you mean. It does diminish 10 a little but I’m ultimately glad they returned. It would go against the serie’s message if they died or had their memories erased. It would have also pretty much been torture porn too.

Was this better than Yuri Bears? I don't think it was...

I'm definitely not as satisfied as I was after yuribears.

I enjoyed most of it more than I enjoyed most of YKA, but I feel like YKA had a better conclusion. It's hard to say since Sarazanmai's ending was the sort of ending that actually makes the series worse in retrospect.

>It would have also pretty much been torture porn too.
That is my fetish.jpg, but I don't mind a happy ending either. The problem is it's super abrupt and by not spending any time on it, they weren't able to create an equal-and-opposite emotional punch. Like for as down episode 10 got me, 11 should have made me equally elated to see them again. Instead it was like "Oh yeah and they're okay too, next scene."

I can just about excuse how incomplete the Enta and Tooi resolutions were because it's a "they're going to work hard from now on" message but Reo and Mabu were too much of an afterthought. It felt weird caring about them and their story for so long.

yes, but yuri kuma did have some very enjoyable parts that were few and far in between.

I'm glad they are back and I can accept everything that needed to be said and done between them happened off screen
But please Ikuni service me, put in the novel what happened while they were asleep or a bit of them in their new jobs, or make it a short ONA, a manga, something I'm begging
At least I'm glad they went to see the cherry blossoms like Reo said in the twitter and that they have weddings bands

I'm with YKA was a less enjoyable ride overall but with better highs and a better conclusion that improved the show as a whole. Sarazanmai was a more enjoyable ride but with a worse ending that highlights a lot of the points the show failed at(like building the necessary strength in the relationships between the main trio).

>Sarazanmai's ending was the sort of ending that actually makes the series worse in retrospect.

How do? Everyone was worried it’d be a reset ending and it avoided that.

Because it's great when you're wondering where the characters' connections will go, and then the finale drops and you realize nothing went anywhere and their connections were actually the weakest part of the show.

Not even close. The ending really cheapens the rest of the show, but even without it, I haven't really been enjoying Sarazanmai much past the first couple episodes.

>I can accept everything that needed to be said and done between them happened off screen
That drives me crazy. Sure, I can imagine a resolution for them but if I have to make up a pivotal chunk of the story myself why am I even watching someone else's story? They gave us the rising action and the climax but no closure. And there's no particular reason it needed to be off screen except I suppose they didn't give Ikuhara enough episodes.

>their connections were actually the weakest part of the show.
The more I think about this the more I'm convinced Ikuhara needed another dozen episodes. There's no reason they couldn't have developed great connections; every possible combination of the main characters was genuinely interesting at the start.

probably not the best place to ask but I don't wanna start another Ikuhara thread. Is there a transcript of the lyrics of Yuri Kuma Arashi OSTs? I can only find translations of the OP and ED
At least they sound like words to me

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I liked it way more than YKA.

I absolutely agree the show would have benefited from maybe 4 or so more episodes to strengthen the character's bonds. But even if you don't count the SNS leaks as canon (I do), it still laid enough basic groundwork. People seem to be forgetting all that truly happened between the trio.

Enta and Toi saw Kazuki in drag and still were somewhat friendly with him. Both also see him kidnapping animals to satisfy his brother, and the drama about him and his real mother, but still accept him. They even literally help save his life when he is in despair over Haruka potentially dying.

Kazuki sees Toi breaking into cars, dealing weed, killing a person, and even has him kidnap a person, but even though he is a bit scared he understands Toi, and flat out says as much when Toi confronts him that he is a bad person. Enta is far more critical of Toi, and honestly is probably one of the rare voices of reason he has in his life. Even so, Enta apologizes for being shitty to Toi in ep6 and they somewhat reconcile. Toi even realizes that Enta's betrayal later on is from jealousy and doesn't really hold it against Enta, telling Kazuki to hear him out. He clearly cares even further for Enta, hesitating when he sees that he was shot and his brother offers to let him go back. The show even further shows he doesn't hold Enta's betrayal against him when he hopes that Kazuki can help him instead "I'm counting on you, Yasaka". Toi's brotherly bond is strong as fuck though so he sticks with his blood brother, but clearly he cares about his friends a LOT. Even after he gives up on them he starts to realize how much they meant to him. Otter says look how upset they are after betraying him, and he clearly only sorta buys it. He flat out is flustered once Kazuki stops him from erasing his past, and full blown starts to regret it once everything starts erasing.

Post limit I might write more later unless someone wants to do Enta or expand on what I listed.

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There a compilation of the SNS material anywhere?

Is the girl brother still in a wheelchair by the end

Please

He doesn't get an epilogue scene for some reason so we don't know.

>even nyantaro got one
they should have cut the OP and play ti over new scenes holy shit
I was mad they only edited the OP to change the time of the day, would be nice to see transformed Sara and Keppi and rickshaw driders ReoMabu and no otter

Sorry I don't have them personally, but basically they were going to the cafe together and eating cutesy shit. Toi would take secret pictures of Enta, Kazuki would randomly flake out and forget about them (including Enta's birthday), just mundane daily life stuff basically.

>People seem to be forgetting all that truly happened between the trio.
It's more like it's dissatisfying because so much happened in the start/middle vs a very abrupt ending. Since they laid all that groundwork you mentioned the final episode felt like having the rug pulled out from under you.

The Kazuki/Haruka arc was pretty well rounded and fulfilling. Then compare it to, say, the Kazuki/Enta arc (a friendship/unrequited love conflict) and the most resolution you get is the implication that it turned sour in one possible future, but no clues for the actual timeline. So their resolution as actually been put on hold and is presumably going to happen sometime after the show ended.

If Ikuhara was going for a sort of ending where none of the connections are fully resolved at the end and it's more of a message about continuously struggling to maintain connections, he probably should have tweaked the arcs that concluded midway (like Haruka) or apparently concluded happily (like Reo/Mabu)

Every night forever

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Knowing a lot about a person doesn't necessarily constitute a friendship. They saw a lot of each other through the Sarazanmais but that's not really a substitute for organically getting to know somebody through time spent with each other. That's why this doesn't feel anything like a friendship. They're friends because the show gave them a shortcut for learning each others' pasts, not because they actually willingly took the time to know each other or because they have chemistry.

I feel like that was intentional though, although it is a bit bittersweet if you accept that some of those futures will still likely occur. Toi was in juvie in some of the future leaks as well, and that still happened in the real future. So, clearly some of that stuff will maybe still happen. But, that is just life. Even with your broest of bros, shit might still hit the fan later on. Enjoy the good times while you can.

Even with the sns promotions, the friendship between the three seem forced as fuck.

It is forced as fuck. They weren't friends, they were three kids thrown together and given a magical exposition device for learning about each other.

The connection that was supposed to drive the show ended up being the hollowest one.

Sure, but the thing is, they still mostly stood by each other even after the sarazanmia's. Was it forced connecting? Yes. But it is still valid. I really feel like a lot of people have similar experiences in real life too, where you might get over emotional and spill something rather personal, or too drunk, or whatever. The fact that they still stood by their bros even afterwards is important. That is what real human bonding is actually like.

I want a full fledged doujin for this. Mabu being horny for Reo no matter what form either of them are in is the best thing.

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>But, that is just life. Even with your broest of bros, shit might still hit the fan later on. Enjoy the good times while you can.
No, I'm saying the problem is we don't know how it goes down, bittersweet or not. And that's where the unsatisfying feeling is coming from, because we were given a complex relationship, half the story, then the resolution was left offscreen. Get your dumb hippie platitudes out of here, I'm not talking about dissatisfaction with the possibility of a downer resolution.

They stood by each other because there would be no show if they all went their separate ways. The only person who had any reason to hang on to someone else here was Enta because he had a crush on Kazuki, and even that dynamic was stupid because their friendship was based on them already having been friends. We don't see what makes them best friends, they just are because that's their backstory.

I’m aroused

I wish I knew what they are saying

Thanks user.

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I think Kazuki/Enta ended fine even if I wanted it to go further and wish it wasn't just another unrequited love plot. It was ultimately more about Enta's expectations of Kazuki. To Enta, Kazuki was still the prince who brought him out of solitude when they were younger, who he really wanted a romantic relationship with and wanted all to himself. In the end he chooses to reject that fantasy and cherish the relationship he does have with Kazuki. Enta had already accepted that it's not happening and how it ended with him refusing otter Kazuki and slapping some sense into real Kazuki(which Enta at the start of the show would never have done)was fine.

That said I really wish Kazuki had just acknowledged Enta's feelings and rejected him, or Enta got to build a better relationship with Toi before the show ended, or had something with his sister, or anything that gave him another conflict except the one internal struggle about Kazuki. Ikuhara uses gay feelings for unrequited love conflicts way too much and Enta feels like the embodiment of that.

That's just it honestly though. It does not matter how it LITERALLY goes down. Even if they end up telling each other they hate each other and never speaking to each other again. That is life. I think the little Haruka speech at the end highlights this, you care about people, and choose things that make you happy or sad. But the fact that you cared about them at all is what matters. That is what truly connected you to them. As a viewer, did you CARE about the characters at all? If not, the show failed.

I think it was pretty good for the type relationship you get with a bunch of different personalities thrown together because of work (with work being transforming into magical crime fighting kappa). Or maybe like when you join a local soccer team and you get along well with your teammates but they're not the same as your best bros. is talking about friendship specifically but I think that's off-track since "connections" is a more general category.

I do think that they didn't build it up enough to make it seem realistic that Tooi's relationship with Kazuki and Enta strong enough that it would work as a replacement for Chikai though.

If that is what you believe then fine. Personally I don't buy it. Even if someone is rather different than you you can absolutely find yourself suddenly infatuated with them after learning a bit about them. Physical chemistry can also absolutely play a role, even non sexually.

Mabu would have sex with Reo in any possible combination every day if he could. And then he'd make breakfast.

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I didn't say people who are different can't have chemistry, I said that the three of them just had none full-stop. Being different isn't a factor since anyone can give you an example of opposites attracting in their life.

It was just horribly hollow and I was disappointed with the turnout. It was promising in the beginning.

I think people are too quick to assume Enta is just a story of unrequited love. Kazuki seemed to realize how important he was to Enta after talking to his family and he begged Enta to wake up to tell him "the important thing".
Also one of the adverted futures looked like a break up between them. I think Enta and Kazuki might happen, but not at this point.

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>ywn have a perfect waifu like Mabu
Life is rough.

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Mabu wants Reokappa to fuck him, Reo fusses about the size difference but can't stop thrusting his hips, Mabu encourages him in a lusty voice ("Do your best, do your best (heart)"), and Reo fusses about being able to finish properly (in human form?). I think.

>Mabu encourages him in a lusty voice ("Do your best, do your best (heart)")
why this sounds so pure
thank you user

>Toi’s monologue in the PV about the old being replaced by the new was happening in real time
Bravo Ikuni

Ok. But by that logic the cops also had zero chemistry. They had literally nothing in common when they met, therefore all of their relationship was meaningless. I don't think you can convince all the fujo's in this thread otherwise though. A spark is a spark. There does not need to be a deeper justification.

Toi and Enta would actually have decent chemistry if Enta got off Kazuki's dick. Episode 8 is proof of that.

How old was Haruka supposed to be? Did they ever say?
>I have no idea why I’m bothered by not knowing this

I didn't like the cops so this probably isn't the best example to use with me, but you're completely misreading my post to begin with. You can have nothing in common with someone at first and eventually grow to really click with each other, yet that is not what happened for the main trio. Inexplicable sparks do exist, just not where these three are concerned. There was potential for a switch to eventually flip with them and it never did.

Reo I've always wanted to have sex with you in your kappa form
Mabu let me go! My hips are moving on their own!
Ganbare ganbare (low sexy voice)
Seriously stop! I'm gonna finish!

>the puppetmaster that cursed my dick

Ok. I just flat out don't agree with that. You can clearly see Kazuki growing closer to Toi throughout the show He slowly relies on Toi more and more and flat out had his life saved by Toi. He somewhat reconciles Enta's feelings after he realizes just how much Enta cares for him while Enta is on his deathbead. Enta is somewhat jealous of Toi but realizes just how much he means to Kazuki and flat out calls him and tries to get him to come back after he realized he fucked up. Toi has many revelations about Kazuki and Enta, I listed a bunch earlier . I just don't agree with this at all. It was 100% shown in the show.

Finish shichau means I'm gonna nut

Good to know.

How rude of Mabu to not take his pants off.

Most of the time Mabu is an exhibitionist but sometimes he likes to change it up with fully clothed sex

I can’t believe I unironically want to see kappa Reo and kappa Mabu fuck. Though I don’t feel that way about the kappa boys at all.

I bet their pay was docked a lot for all the semen stains in company property. Hope rickshaw drivers get to own their clothing.

I want a doujin of reo licking mabu's heart until he cums

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Enta was still on Kazuki's dick in episode 8, especially during his conversation with Toi.

Why does the otter in this scene declare that Reo wanted to kiss Mabu's mechanical heart? What's the significance of wanting to kiss the heart over Mabu himself? A metaphor for wanting to be loved?

Reluctance to accept that borg Mabu is the real Mabu

he said he wanted to lock lips with him, not the heart, hearts have no lips

>Mabu rapes Reo

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No that was a Crunchy mistranslation.

I see some people saying that the ReoMabu Super Groupies art is canon in some way? Is there a source on that? Sorry if it's a dumb question.

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figurative speech, he probably means robot Mabu as a whole because that's what it's left of Mabu in Reo's eyes

They were supposed to go for sakura viewing in April on twitter but as you know if you followed it, Mabu disappeared at the end of march. The new art shows them viewing sakura on a boat cruiser.

It's official art, so it is "canon". What exactly are you questioning?

Probably the pair rings

also, because the heart seems to be the only place Mabu's robotic body geniunely feels something as implied by the novel so if he wanted to make Mabu feel good he would go for it

it's a follow up of the twitter and Ikuni looked very happy about it, he sang the ultimate couple song in the stream

The novel doesn't imply that Mabu can only feel from his heart. It just suggests that it gives him an intense feeling "like ecstasy" when Reo touches it. The cooking scene with Mabu and the otter shows that Mabu can feel heat, and the subsequent scene shows Mabu reacting to having his tits groped.

Or maybe the heart just feels really really good

He was finally starting to get off it just a little, the way he finally got mad at Kazuki for someone else's sake was telling. I wish he were more than just Kazuki's sidekick during Toi's rescue because it still mostly looked like he was just tagging along. At least let him use his PV lines, damn it, they were so good and would have made him feel like an important part of the trio.

I want to play with Mabu’s large nipples!

Those are for Reo and Reo's babies only.

Kek the Super Groupies reps were fanning themselves talking about the art

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>Manabu

Reo was right all along. It was never his Mabu. It was Manabu.

Is it old since it's uses the early manga image?

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>suck my nipples reo

toi's boots.

Like fugu.

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Manga Reo would stop him.

"Three-years post-reconnecting with Mabu" Reo probably would too. Then Toi would recognize Reo as that guy he shot dead three years ago.

some people in this anime really owe "sorry I shot you" cakes to each other
Reo's cakes are the best because Mabu bakes them, he just writes in them

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this is so pure

Reo should be grateful that Toi shot him, honestly. He needed the rest before he did any more damage, and Keppi linked his ring with Mabu's. He got to come back healed.

Amazing what frequent sex does to a person

>tfw no Haruka son
>tfw no Toi brother in law

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then make it a "thanks for shooting me" cake

Ikuni's next anime is going to be a collab with Anno, right?

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As long as he wasn't bluffing Anno.

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>hurrr these kids' days of future past
>except I almost killed one of them and he wouldn't have had a future at all
Reo and Mabu should have been Keppi's gay episodic henchmen from the very beginning, without any retarded drama.

I always got the impression that he was just humoring Anno and would always conveniently get too busy working on a new project to ever collaborate. He should put Anno out of his misery and just reject him.

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God, Reo was such a piece of shit.

I hope she never stops

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Haruka and Toi never met right?

>dedicated events and books
>pet name
no one will ever love you as much as Anno loves Iku-chan

She will stop someday(when she works on another anime) but hopefully not in the next few months.

Yeah they never met. I wish they did though.

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TAMA TAMA

Tbf if I was Kazuki I wouldn’t let Toi around Haruka either (not that I think he deliberately prevented them from meeting). Toi’s still a criminal and pretty quick to start waving a loaded firearm around.

Happily married.

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TAMA TAMA

>no graphic sex scene with the trio at the end
What was the point of this show?

This but unironically. Felt like a blueball ending to have them be Just Friends.

I'm slow as fuck but this is really the only time the otter is without its labcoat therefore naked
I wonder why they didn't draw him in Reo's shape here
The odd shapely arms look so weird when in other scenes it looks more like a blob

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Maybe because he going to do surgery? It's for "installing" a digestive system.

I have the feeling Mabu had to deep throat right after to "test it" and I don't like it

Toi and Kazuki will do it later once Enta's asleep.

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But what I wrote is correct.

Based.

Nothing got resolved. Why introduce Enta's gayness for Kazuki if you're just gonna handwave it? Reo and Mabu were resurrected because magical Keppi. They are such passive characters. It's Keppi's splitting that ruined their relationship and now they are back together and alive because Keppi-kamisama.
I really dislike the way this anime peddles the religious belief of 'shit happens because of FATE, miracles happen because of FATE'.

Was he/she not on the television in the city?

We agreed that's someone else. I wonder if frog girl is in the cast list, maybe we'd be able to tell this way.

>I really dislike the way this anime peddles the religious belief of 'shit happens because of FATE, miracles happen because of FATE'.
I agree on most of your other points (heavily for Enta's faggotry), but UNMEI is par for the course with Ikuhara.

Frog girl is a hint of Ikuhara's next project, mark my words.

Why Is Kazuki friends with Toi again? Because it's useful to have a friend who does criminal shit (kidnapping) for you?
Theirs wasn't a true, meaningful friendship. They all used each other to some extent. Kazuki used Toi's expertise, Enta used Kazuki as his object of adoration (and fap material), without trying to build a romantic relationship.

I can't understand you guys claiming that the show had a positive message about connecting with people.
Toi and aniki - their connection was bound to end up in a tragedy. Reo and Mabu - their connection could not be restored to the way it was before without Mabu dying and neither of them had the capacity to change the dire situation they were in. Kazuki connecting with his biological mother made Haruka disabled and made the boy question his role in his adoptive family. Enta's sister dating a guy almost led to her being killed. Enta got killed (but 'resurrected') because he took the bullet for Kazuki.

>UNMEI is par for the course with Ikuhara
Yeah, I hate it. Why bother improving oneself if all is dictated by destiny?

I saw DISTINY in this show more as a deux ex machina and even in the case of, say, Kazuki giving himself the micanga, they still had to work together to reach the moment the deux ex would take place.

The point was supposed to be Hedgehog’s Dilemma “connections hurt you but they’re worth it” but all we saw was the hurt and not enough of the worth it. The show really needed more episodes or at least a bit more unambiguous optimism in the ending.

Whatever even happened to Kazuki's 'I'm gonna connect with my little brother cosplaying as a TV idol'?
What was the point? Kazuki still could connect alright with Haruka as himself, what was he thinking? And he's not shown to be trans or anything, so it's not an excuse he was making to dress up as a woman. It just felt like a gimmick.

That was just Kazuki being retarded and assuming Haruka couldn’t forgive him for being the cause of the accident so he started LARPing as someone else to try and connect with him through a proxy.

>And he's not shown to be trans or anything
Thank fuck

I think Ikuhara's most simple show might genuinely still be 2deep4you

You don't have to be religious to realize that in real life, there are things you can't change no matter how hard you try. "So why bother" is a real question that there are different answers to.

I’m so glad shipfags got btfo. Almost makes up for this lame endinn

The horny copfags are still here.

Couldn't they visit him in prison?

Who says they didn't?

felt like it

In Toi's case only his relatives and some future employer or someone to help him reintegrate into society.

Nobody in this show can understand each other without kappa magic bullshit.

Does Kazuki have paranoia? Haruka never showed that he was upset at him for what happened.

It's called guilt.

Kazuki “The Soccer Team Dared You To Do It, Right?” Yasaka is probably the dumbest character on the show. It’s understandable he’d blame himself and he seemed like he was too wrapped up in his own wallowing to notice the emotions of anyone around him.

>show about connections
>no positive connection can be made without a magical proxy
>=humans can't into relationships
This show has an optimistic message according to Yea Forums.

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I hate dumb MCs in non-comedy shows. How can Japan tolerate them?

This. It was shown repeatedly that connections will hurt you but they forgot to show how it’s somehow worth it to go through all that pain.

Kazuki isn't even a Goku or Luffy kind of dumb though. He is just annoyingly oblivious.

Japanese MC have a 50:50 chance of being bland as a post and Kazuki is shounen hero dumb.

I wonder if Kazuki was kissed by anyone before Enta.

But goku and luffy have personality, even if they’re obnoxious. Kazuki’s personality disappears after being “healed” in episode 6. He suddenly gives a shit about Toi because the plot demands it. At least only giving a fuck about Enta after he got shot was somewhat in character.

Someone will answer Toi, someone will answer old men, so I’m just going to get that out of the way. In all actuality he would probably think it’s a prank, even up to age 35.

>2017
>no ア

I wonder when they decided to add it.

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So Sara's hair was green like Keppi's.

Oh I wasn't arguing that not being a stereotypical shounen hero MC makes him better, and you do have a point. (I even read One Piece and Luffy is one of my favorite characters)

Sorry, I was actually agreeing but came off as a bit confrontational. I expected more from the show and more from the finale, to be honest. It started with a bang and went out with a fizzle, especially considering the trio.

>At least only giving a fuck about Enta after he got shot was somewhat in character.
Yeah and then
>why don't you ever tell me important things baww wake up and say stupid shit like you always do
>let's forget I never told you how conflicted I was over Haruka's accident
>and that I hid from you everything I did
>and ignored your messages and phone calls
>ignored the times you tried to comfort or help me
>ignored my brother's rehabilitation too
>preferred to put all my trust into a complete stranger who turned out to be UNMEI

I don't know what is up with Kazuki, but despite his best intentions he manages to irritate me a lot.

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We were denied of our incest

Somebody posted this in some other thread and it perfectly describes Enta's situation:
'Because homo relationships are not serious and always meant as ambigious/light hearted comedic effect.'

Why did Ikuhara chicken out?

I mean he’s a fairly reasonable character if he was supposed to come off as a self centered 14 year old, but I could not buy him as this connector for the other two and the center of a circle of friendship. Kazuki cared about himself and his own guilt and problems, didn’t think twice about anyone else’s feelings.

Enta’s love remaining unrequited wouldn’t have bother me if it didn’t take up all of his character and screen time for a pretty unsatisfying resolution. I mean there’s still the cops. But that’s all Enta ever got to be. “Muhhhhhh Kazuki”

I was about to mention Reo and Mabu, but they felt really theatrical homo to me and I haven't read their manga, so I can't comment on that. I found a thing Utsumi said

>While writing the series, Enta became my favourite character. Because Enta was [the character I could] do as I liked the most with, that helped. I think the aspect of same-sex love isn’t too important, I think the important thing is his deep feelings for Kazuki as a person. But, he’s gone too far (lol).
I agree that that aspect isn't too important, but he should have gotten some closure at least, like the other two. Now he'll always be left pining after his friend. I know he got his golden combi back and now they're the golden trio, but it's still annoying.

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>I think the aspect of same-sex love isn’t too important,
>I think the important thing is his deep feelings for Kazuki as a person.
NO HOMO
Gay crushes is something you grow out of, clearly! Homosexuality is a phase.
It's a regression for Ikuni and a regression for anime as a whole.

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>It's a regression for Ikuni
When has Ikuni ever been good at writing gays.

Somehow I feel like Enta and Toi really became the breakout characters of the show (after the cops)
I can’t like or dislike Kazuki, he just doesn’t inspire strong feelings. He could have died and I wouldn’t have minded too much, at least it would have made me feel something about him.

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While the show was airing people seemed to think Enta was surprisingly well-rounded for an obsessive gay because of his many scenes with Haruka (actually being a buddy not just trying to get close to Kazuki), knowing about Kuji soba shop and having Toi's number saved on his phone and that shit.
Fuck this thread is alien.

Utena?

Why didn’t he and Toi ever connect? I’m not talking shippingshit, I always thought it would come around in a circle but instead everything revolves around the bland ass main and his half - assed attempts at connections. Even future Kazuki looks like an ass who throws his connections away the minute something doesn’t go his way.

Juri is the exact same onesided childhood crush he's been writing in every show since.

Ikuhara sticks to his tropes like a dying man to a life ring sometimes and it shows.

I think people still appreciate his character, but they were expecting more, which the final episodes didn't deliver. He was quite obviously robbed of an occasion to truly shine, except the time he took the bullet for Kazuki and that only lasted for a couple of minutes.

Yeah, I was hoping for that too, especially since they were the only ones not to have had any type of previous connection and becoming friends would have underlined the theme of the show very well. The future leak showed the could get along just fine.The scene where the kids all start forgetting things was particularly disappointing, their memories should have been 50-50 about the other two.

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I’m not surprised if everything revolves around the main character. But in Utena the main character actually actively drove the plot forward. Stuff just revolves around Kazuki BECAUSE he’s the main character.

>Stuff just revolves around Kazuki BECAUSE he’s the main character.
Crappy MC. Crappy ending. Crappy use of the central theme.

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I want a kappa.

Well they resurrected the cops and fujoshit have no taste so don’t expect Ikuhara to write anything competent next time

I seriously hope Ikuhara isn't planning a sequel, like an OVA, or worse a movie. I've had enough of this show.
I didn't know what to expect when I started watching it and I embraced the wild ride for what it was, but on a second thought the finale and the 'message' weren't worth the time I spent being invested in the story.

Iku-chan realized that he's old and busted so he resorts to the last bit of creativity left and shameless pandering.

>but on a second thought the finale and the 'message' weren't worth the time I spent being invested in the story.
This. I pretty much enjoyed the whole show, but that last episode ruined it for me.

Honestly, he should make musicals. Nonsensical plot and garish settings seem to be his forte. Being too much grounded in reality is not.

how often was mabu getting raped by that fucking otter for all those years jfc

>even more kappa lewds
Super good day.

untrue.
haruka re-established his brotherly love with kazuki by earnestly telling his feelings to him via text. kazuki would have never found the strength to return to humanity without that approach.

However often he needed to be for the otter to break his spirit and keep him miserable. I'm sure the otter was careful to not do it do much that Mabu got used to it, but certain to do it every time Mabu might have thought he was free of it or allowed to have a glimmer of happiness.