Kimetsu no Yaiba 163
Someone please post the images. My internet connection is shit.
So in the end she only went blind in one eye?
>that page where Kanae and Shinobu as kids running together and see their parents
Wani fuck you, this hit me hard
Might also have gotten spirit sense/sight in the process.
inb4 doumafag tears
So Douma didn't have a revival gimmick to drag things out? Based mangaka.
Kanao looks too much like Muichirou with her hair down tho
how to rip the images from the site.
Shinobu really died. Poor Tomioka. He will be an eternal virgin.
is inosuke seeing tanjirou as his mom here
How could this forget the best one? (spoiler because it looks like someone started dumping, thanks!)
I give the croc credit for killing off another pillar, and a fan favorite at that. Not even her body can be retrieved.
Thank fuck he didn't have any gimmick to drag the fight out. Good.
Though I am disappointed we didn't get to see serious Douma.
inb4 Kokushibou somehow gains some aspect of the upper moons' powers after they die
>gets the numbers of dead UM to his eyes
Giant Buddha was srs, but he was Asuka lvl fucked to control it properly or summon the tulpa army
Cute!
Douma and his wife, bantering in hell forever
This was my favourite manga series but now I’ve lost all motivation to continue reading it. Well done Gotouge, you successfully squandered your best villain. You couldn’t have done worse if you tried.
Douma is such a slut. Fucking Inosuke's mom, Kanae and Shinobu.
>BEST VILLAIN.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Lulz.
At least we get a glimpse of how strong he actually is before his death. I mean summoning giant Buddha when weaken alone kinda make the fact that he was stronger than Akaza (before Akaza evolved) believable.
I want to hug my wife.
I bid you farewell.
Inosuke's dad is also Kanao's dad?
kanao looks a bit like Tokitou here.
Nah but people back then were fuck up and abusive.
Only Tanjirou and Zenitsu won the lottery of having good parents
Her head was fuck up she didn't cry even when Kanae died.
Inosuke's crying face makes me weak.
Owari~
;_;
Someone from another thread fixed it.
>Shinobu and sis get reunion afterlife
Is this the first time we see an afterlife for not-demons?
CANON OTP!
The pillars are really dropping like flies huh. Wonder if this means the author will promote the main cast to the empty pillar positions after this arc
why is tanjirou shirtless?
Zenitsu's master?
Douma didn't have a goal of being strongest martial artist in the world or anything like that.
He was just a cult leader.
However, for an Upper Moon, he seemed to lack annoying gimmicks.
Other upper moons basically had annoying gimmicks like reversing directions or hiding their real body somewhere else.
Douma was the least annoying Upper Moon to kill besides his small ice clones.
Well I guess I just have to hope for good gaiden chapters in the future since the manga clearly has stopped delivering.
Let's get back to the old days
We have never seen Zenitsu's parents.
Douma looks kinda accepting there.
Flashback to the training
He mentioned his mommy in the training arc
What a bizarre comment to make. No Pillar died this chapter and only one has died this whole arc (a long time ago) while 3 Upper Moons are already gone with at least 2 more that won't get a single kill. The entire manga's value is now resting on Koku's shoulders.
Kanao seems like she's feeling her way around in this page.
Which is the entire problem with his character. All the other Upper Moons had broken gimmicks that keep them alive, thus justifying how they survived for hundreds of years. But Douma who is ranked above all of them doesn't have a gimmick and is way weaker than them. Why wasn't Akaza allowed to suicide himself but Douma was? Was Douma really that worthless?
Reminder that based Kokushibou will deliver
I think his annoying gimmick is the cold air since it's aoe and a counter to the hunters' breath techniques. Without knowing that gimmick beforehand like Kanao make it difficult to fight him for a long period of time.
Feels good to not be a literal retard that thought Douma was going to survive.
I think UM4 will get at least one important kill.
Rengoku is dead
Tengen is retired
Shinobu is confirmed dead
Thats 3 pillar positions now open and Himejima is most likely a goner as well this arc which would leave open 4 positions.
>The entire manga's value is now resting on Koku's shoulders
You should drop it now before your shit taste pollutes the threads further
>FGOfag
I'm glad Douma didn't pull anything and make Shinobu's sacrifice looks cheap.
Previous thread someone said Muzan ranked him second because he was a good dog and technically he was a boot licker. Akaza never gave a fuck about his number, only fist and fight the strongest ones.
Jesus Christ, they aren't "positions". There's no set number of Pillars that has to be maintained, why does everyone think this is Bleach or One Piece. It's also totally possible to retire at any time, we have former Pillars who retired before they were replaced. Nobody has to die for the protagonists to be promoted. We've already had Pillars protected by popularity armor this arc, it's clear nobody is going to die that wasn't already planned to die from the beginning.
>3 Upper Moons are already gone with at least 2 more that won't get a single kill
Why do you have to count Keigaku in it? And how do you know those two won't get a single kill? If anything, the remaining pillars actually have high chance to be killed off because the main cast with plot amor have been knocked out.
Look man, I'm also disappointed with Douma's lost potential, but no need to get hyperbole.
UM2 and 3 are dead, I think that UM5 is actually after Nezuko, UM4 will send all the pillars to fight UM1 and he will kill a bunch of them. There will be a new arc.
>There's no set number of Pillars that has to be maintained
Clearly there is considering that Pillars are constantly looking for successors to take their place when they die or retire.
Stupid headcanon that doesn't even make sense. Their dynamic was clearly based on Douma having beaten Akaza in the past. If Douma was simply promoted for being the boss' favorite, then why would Koku and Akaza agree the way to get higher ranked than him was beat him in strength? If that's all he had to do and he was stronger, than he could have already done it. Akaza was more of Muzan's bitch anyway, Douma was just doing his own thing and had no purpose. The Upper Moons mission wasn't to eat as many people as possible or they would have been regularly massacring entire towns. Their goal was to kill hunters and find the key to immortality. It's not like they are getting a salary, the numbers are not based on how much they get paid, it's how strong they are.
They made me wonder if I was seeing the story flow wrong. But nope, they were just dumb and believing what they wanted to be true.
Douma and Shinobu deserved better deaths.
But it's not like Kanao and Inosuke beat Douma fair and square. They wouldn't have a chance without Shinobu's poison kicking in.
>love, snek, wind and water
No successors
>Insect/flower
Kanao
>thunder or sound pillar
Zenitsu
>Flame pillar
It's not Tanjirou
Brand new pillars: Sun, Beast and Gun
How do you manage to be so optimistic that you can believe the two other Kaigaku-tier Moons that debut this arc will get kills when Akaza couldn't and neither of the previous UM4 and UM5 could either. Douma was the last chance for an UM that could actually be a threat (besides Koku who will get his own arc).
I can't believe I invested two years of my life to this trash. This is worse than Bleach final arc.
>A side villain dies
>OMG SERIES RUINED FOREVER HURRRRRRRRRR ITS WORST THAN BLEACH HURRRRRRR
Doumafags are pathetic.
How Douma managed to bring all this tards? He has a good design but aside of that he's the villian of the day and nothing more.
Kaigaku was also made a demon recently, we don't know about current UM5, and new UM4 was mentioned to improve quickly.
Demons are using literal magic
>Dude, the humans cheated though
And even if they don't find successors they retire and even when there are potential successors, they don't take them and the requirements to become a Pillar do not include being a successor. There is no fixed number. It's totally arbitrary. They aren't going to say "sorry man, we got our full set, we don't need you even though you are stronger than some of the other Pillars". At this point it really seems unlikely anyone will ever be promoted to Pillar. What's the fucking point? After Muzan's dead the organization has no reason to exist and non-Pillars are already doing all the work in this arc.
If that's all he was to you, I don't know why the fuck you think you're the authority on the manga. You don't even like the characters or premise.
Doumaposters are truly worse than Muzan himself.
Well at least now it's time for you to drop the serie instead of torturing yourself by continue reading it.
At least they're not going hurrr Douma is a fucking jobber Doumafags on suicide watch durrr like one piss threads
I want to blame the anime pulling in morons. But it could just be a few women or homos with brain problems.
Which pillar is dying next? Place your bets
>Snek
He'll get his backstory and profess his love to Mitsuri and then die
>Rock
The most powerful demon hunter, had his flashback already and his death will be a huge turning point in the battle.
The only problem with Shinobu's death is it was so bizarre (in order to be safe for a children's magazine) that it wasn't clear until now that she was actually dead. Douma's death was cheap but so was every other Upper Moon, seems to just be the manga's style at this point.
Rock is presented as too much OP to stay alive.
Stop being a whiney elitist bitch. The women and homos with brain problems are the ones keeping the series alive.
Now I'm thinking that Tokitou and Himemija will reach Tamayo first, and then see how it evolves.
I'm not optimistic. I just don't make predictions without even knowing the two other Moons are and who they fight. The situations are completely different anyway. Like I said, Tanjirou and his friends ((barring Genya) are out of commission ) so they can't get in the way of the demons killing somebody. Nezuko is also not there to be their meat shield.
Now that I think about it, Wani might be focusing on Tanjirou and co. first in this arc so they can get them out of picture quickly.
playing Kalafina while reading this chap actually made me cry
Gdi wani...
Which song?
Eden
I think the women who keep the serie alive don't have brain problems (some are not fujoshit) but people who complain are the one with brain problems. Anyway majority of fujoshit are cancer.
*so she can get them out of the picture quickly and have more freedom in dealing with the other character. For example, the reason Tomioka is not killed is because it would undermine Tanjirou's progress and just pile upon his failure from the train arc.
Volume 16 is the first volume for this year, right? I was thinking that Wani might leave a message regarding this arc in that volume. Volume 15 she said she will give her best in the current year.
What did Wani mean by this?
You bastard I almost thought Tanjirou was a dick
I totally see how you can be satisfied trusting a bunch of Pillars will get killed later in the arc and I'm sure they will, but that's not really my problem with the direction the manga took. It's that the Upper Moons don't live up to their reputation and because they keep getting taken out so easily, every new arc has less bad guys available but the same amount of good guys. The stakes actually get lowered with each new development. There's also going to be no breathing room at all in the Koku arc to develop character because he'll be simultaneously fighting half a dozen characters whenever he's on-screen.
You mean for this arc? Yes. Not for this year since obviously that would have been the last one.
People actually believe Koku and Muzan can carry an arc by themselves? Douma's death settled it, this is the final arc. Tanjirou will recover later on with some asspull before the final fight.
I think the ranking of the UM don't determinate how good that are at fighting Demon Slayer. In theory the one who stronger would have higher rank and would be a bigger threat to the hunter. How ever in pratice, the require to advance in rank is to challenge the demon above you. Some demon may have a completely broken ability when fight human but do jack shit again other demon, some have devastate power again demon but suck again human. Gyutaro poison is busted again human but do nothing again demon while Nezuko fire could burn demon but deal no damage again human.
And i give her shit for having fucking superhyped UM2 die so fast.
Shinobu is unceremoniously killed
>Her death lacks impact and doesn't carry weight
Douma is killed thanks to Shinobu's sacrifice
>His death is cheap as fuck
I guess we can't just please everyone. Also, I can't believe that we're actively wishing for the villains to kill more of the good guys, even after the painful death of a young woman.
Mist and Rock will die fighting UM1
This.
I was 100% into this series but UM4&5 died waaaaay to easily and than we got this arc which is filled with.....dissapointment.
Inosuke is probably the only reason im watching this series at this point.
The problem is Koku would then be an arc within an arc. He has to get a flashback arc which requires the Pillars first learning about him, then Tanjiro reading the history and the flashback arc happening and then they beat him. There's no way to do that in this setting without it being rushed or terrible.
>Mist
Please no, kill Wind instead.
>best villain
Doumafags appear out of nowhere and turn full retard in a span of few chapters.
>*tips fedora*
Don't you think Reddit would be more your speed?
There's always have been people here wanting all pillars and other characters to fucking die for some reason, beats me why. Edgy phase I guess.
> (besides Koku who will get his own arc
At this point i wont even expect this.
I wont be suprised if its just a 2 chapter long flashback explaining his past and all and that will be all we get.
How could Wani make this shitty battle after great fight with Akaza?
Go back to One Piece, this is a world where characters die. That's the entire premise and atmosphere of the whole fucking series, if the editors really can't handle the idea that characters should die then they shouldn't have greenlit the series. People don't like fake solutions to problems in story but at least in manga where it's established the protagonist will never kill (like many other Jump manga) you can just accept it, but this isn't one of those.
> side villian
This is like wolf-espada all over again. Tons of hype and absolute horseshit level delivery.
I don't think so
>I feel like my non-existent heart is beating
>is this love? You're so cute, shinobu chan
>hey shinobu, will you go to hell with me?
>Just die already you piece of shit
We live and die for happy potato family in panel 2.
Sounds cute to me. Douma never had to learn anything and Shinobu got to be with him in death. They're like newlyweds.
Inb4 UM1 will just be able to tae rocks life and than job to the other pillars.
>Just die already you piece of shit
Classic Tsundere desu
>back then
Nice one.
Take your pills Doumafags. Your sperging is pathetic.
While I agree that Douma is taken out much more easily than his status would imply, the stake is not getting lowered. We just had a pillar dying ffs, and she is the one we get to know longer than anyone, besides Tomioka. Kanao potentially loses an eye for her desperate attack. Don't we forget that the leader of the demon hunter organization literally blew himself up along with his wife and daughter.
I'm trying to be hopeful but you're right. I bet the manga will be over within 10 chapters. At least I won't have to continue being hopeful much longer.
What the actual fuck
Yup. This is like saying "people want death and tragedy in a tokyo ghoul? edgy phase i guess". I guess retards gonna keep retarding.
Based. Glad to see someone actually using their brain here
That's just Shinobu's way of expressing her love
>the absolute seething in this thread.
Oh no no, demonbros we got too cocky.
>even Douma falls for Shinobu
All this chapter did was confirming Tomioka as absolute gaylord
Your examples of the stakes getting raised are things that happened months ago. No stakes were raised here, they were just drastically lowered to non-existent. There is now not a single demon with the upper hand on anybody. So the next chapter will have to pick one of the demons to try and raise the stakes back up but unless it goes straight to Koku and skips over the others, it's unlikely the stakes will be raised back up to how high they were before this chapter and they'll have to be lowered for however many weeks until we finally get Koku. And if Koku does raise the stakes next week, it'll either be to end the arc or prove this is the final arc because once he's in play, there's no way to raise the stakes any higher.
No, certainly not 10 chapters. Im not sure but Croc doesnt seem to want to reach ch200, and as much as this arc seems like the ending, if the manga doesnt announce it we cant be certain.
I just cant imagine anything to happen beyond this arc, it has all the players in it, all thats left is to give the pillars backstorys, UM1, maybe biwa-demon too and than obviously have the battle.
37 chapters until ch200, It all depends on UM1, if he gets a 10 or so chapter long fight than we can be sure this series ends with ch200 because Muzan would get his 20 or so long fight, and the remaining ones would show what everyone does now, eg. the epilogue.
She probably raped him once and he got scared since then.
But 2 characters just died? I would understand your grievance if somehow Shinobu was revived from the dead and everyone lived happy ever after, but that's not what happened here. You might think that Douma's death is cheap, but it only came at great loss for the characters, especially Kanao. Now she'll come back to butterfly mansion alone.
Okay, what the fuck is up with these doumafags? I haven't ever read post like these in kimetsuthreads. This is the style of rabid tumblrfangirls who make up their own headcannons and then complain that the author had different ideas.
Bruh. It ain't that deep.
> I can't believe that we're actively wishing for the villains to kill more of the good guys,
I don't want this manga become NNT 2.0
>even after the painful death of a young woman.
Who gives a shit about Shinobu?
She was a weak Pillar.
>he still thinks there's another arc after this
You also deliberately missed the point. The demons are all guaranteed to die. Not a single one is allowed to make it to the end of the manga alive. But those stakes are not represented in their ability to go down fighting. It's totally one-sided. Even One Piece can kill an Ace and a Whitebeard while not letting a single villain die. You should be able to doubt whether or not Pillars survive, not simply guess what contrived plot device will save them this time.
I'm enjoying their meltdown, at least.
>muh Doumafags are ruining these threads!
First of all, actually read the posts if you believe that and second of all you've clearly never been in any of these threads if this is new to you. Regardless, this is more of a straw that broke the camel's back situation than a one-off bad move out of nowhere. You can excuse each badly written resolution we've gotten individually but pile too many of them up in a row and people will get upset.
A pillar sacrificed her own life to give two successors a chance to off the upper moon by the skin of their teeth.
This had all the proper narrative stakes and dramatic weight the story should have, yet some people find a reason to complain becasue the fight didn't take eons to conclude. Bleach and Naruto brought up the worst kind of shounen readers, the ones who expect a neverending slog to be satisfied.
>Now she'll come back to butterfly mansion with Tanjirou, Inosuke, Zenitsu & Genya.
Fixed
>who told you the moons could only be upper or lower?
bigger and smaller moons when
or new moon, eclipse and twilight.
>Regardless, this is more of a straw that broke the camel's back situation than a one-off bad move out of nowhere. You can excuse each badly written resolution we've gotten individually but pile too many of them up in a row and people will get upset.
If this is a bad move, you should have started complaining after Tanjirou has slain his first demon. But alas, he wasn't a prettyboy rapist like Douma.
Cry more. Naruto and Bleach are exactly the sort of disappointing manga you usually spend your time defending.
cute potato
I agree with you.
>Your examples of the stakes getting raised are things that happened months ago
Not in the manga. It's not even a day yet since the battle began. The stakes are neither raised or lowered.
Huh? What a stupid response. You Shinobufags won't stop wishing for the series to suffer just so Douma dies. He was always going to die, nobody ever thought otherwise. The how and when were the question.
>GOOD GUYS DYING GOOD
>VILLAINS DYING BAD
Man this thread become so fun to read.
Narratively they are lowered drastically but you are right, in-universe they are theoretically the same until everyone adjusts to the news.
> Now she'll come back to butterfly mansion alone.
She still has the other girls.
And shinobi is in heaven now alongside her sister, so she isnt suffering at all.
Seems way to good of a ending consdiering how much hype Douma got.
>I didn't get the resolution I wanted
>therefore is badly written
You know Douma was fucked in the right moment he absorbed Shinobu. This is mainly his character fault for playing around and absorbing her.
Dying to poison is just lame. Name me a series where a villain was defeated by poison and it was satisfying.
Cringe. I bet you've posted "this is our World War II" on Twitter.
> This had all the proper narrative stakes and dramatic weight the story should have,
No it didnt, it didnt at all, stop posting nonsense.
> yet some people find a reason to complain becasue the fight didn't take eons to conclude.
How about the fight not actually living up to the hype? But nah, you do you, keep ignoring reality.
Shinobu isn't even the best girl, so you missed even with the namecalling. And the series definitely didn't suffer from the Upper Monn Two getting offed by two pillar successors and a metric ton of wisteria poison.
> upper & lower
> nobody said there are no left & right moons
>No it didnt, it didnt at all, stop posting nonsense.
Nice argument.
>How about the fight not actually living up to the hype? But nah, you do you, keep ignoring reality.
How about you read teh story for what it is and not the "hype" you have created in your little head?
Remember how everyone were hyping when the pig showed up? Hahah seems like yesterday
Nonsense questions but which is worse this or o my 7 quicks moment or whatever in other jump series?
Shinobu really was the shitposting queen after all, she left us with this gift in her last chapter.
It's a cheap and contrived resolution. It was literally confirmed last chapter that if he wanted to, Douma could have left at any time and had multiple people of his level fighting without himself ever being in harm's way. But instead, because he chose to use some magic absorption technique that had an arbitrary wait time until it poisoned him, he just died. There isn't even evidence Kanao and Inosuke were necessary at all. We have no proof he wouldn't have just collapsed and died even if they weren't there.
Both are shit
Nonsense questions remains nonsense. Fuck off.
This is worse, story-wise. O My 7 Quirks has yet to actually be relevant and it's not like it made the series worese, that manga had its shit moment of this quality so long ago that it just hasn't recovered in years.
>There isn't even evidence Kanao and Inosuke were necessary at all
Did you speedread last chapter where Shinobu is literally asking Kanao to give the final blow if they fight together?
The only nonsense is to say this wasn't a great fight.
>Shinobu dying is a good ending for her and her loved ones
Come on.
You could say that Douma's demise is partly his own undoing because he spent too much time fucking around and didn't take his opponent seriously. There is a sense of poetic justice in it
>We have no proof he wouldn't have just collapsed and died even if they weren't there.
And we have no proof that the poison would kill him either. Ultimately it was Kanao that delivered the killing blow with some help from Inosuke.
I see. You're seething like this since you had in mind this wasn't the final arc, so you got so attached to Douma in order to have a little hope to stretch out the series even more.
> Nice argument.
Better than yours and "it is because i say so".
> How about you read teh story for what it is and not the "hype" you have created in your little head?
How about you read the story and actually understand what "building up a conflict" is all about?
I said evidence, not circumstance. There's no evidence they were needed to kill him, just circumstance that they made sure he was dead. Which didn't even require they fight him, Kanao literally could have fled and waited for the time limit and then come back and killed him.
7 quirks, always, 7 quirks.
This wasnt a asspull. It is just dissappointing as fuck!
Fine, you were right, this is the final arc. Hopefully the editor jumps off the Shueisha building for this shame.
> Come on.
Wow, how can someone read something so clear in its meaning in such a wrong way? Try again retard and this time think before posing.
Maybe you guys just expect too much from a weekly shonen jump manga. I mean most series tend to fuck up at some point anyway.
There's no poetic justice in it because it keeps getting used for every single Upper Moon. There's only so many times you can go "oops, i should've taken you seriously". Just imagine how stupid all the Pillars of previous generations were that they got killed by these guys.
>Kanao literally could have fled and waited for the time limit and then come back and killed him.
Are you saying that Douma would have let Kanao run way? Even if she successfully fled, what guarantees that Douma would not fuck off elsewhere?
I do wish the same for you
wani a shitty hack
I know you're trying to make excuses, but the point is story-wise the fight had no relevance. It was a stall for time that could have been done in plenty of other ways. They weren't fighting him to win, they were just waiting for him to die so they could quickly scalp him and claim the credit.
All this fight remind me another shit
So you're not making excuses as well?
>Douma was defeated in 9 chapters
Fucking hell
I can see UM1 going down to Tokitou's bullshit mark after somehow being weakened by Rock.
really hope this and last chapter gets a shit ranking for this bullshit fight
Do you not speak English? How is pointing out that the fight had no impact on the resolution "making excuses". What I'm doing is called "pointing out the obvious" and then you're getting upset about and trying to deflect.
I can see it now.
"I...shouldn't......have.....underestimated.......you......."
then jump will give cp or cover to hide the poor ranking
>it keeps getting used for every single Upper Moon.
No? Pretty sure that Akaza and Hantengu were committed to killing their opponents. And the point is Douma is obsessed with eating young woman, so he didn't think twice about consuming Shinobu in the midst of battle.
>They weren't fighting him to win, they were just waiting for him to die so they could quickly scalp him and claim the credit.
Again, you just assume that the poison is enough to kill him despite that even Shinobu wasn't sure about it. He did break down the poison he received earlier, so cutting his head off is still the more surefire method. Saying this fight had no impact is just ignoring what is in the manga.
actually someone pointed out that it was kanao's right eye that got fucked, so here's the revised one
Douma's left eye got fuck up twice.
mean for this
Jesus, stop getting so defensive. Saying the fight had no impact is not a controversial statement, it's just fact. To the very second before the poison took effect he was handling the fighters with ease and literally about to duck out while his creations handled them. Had the poison taken effect even a second later (after he went through the door), they wouldn't have killed him (assuming the poison wasn't actually fatal). Either the poison is what killed him and they were completely unnecessary or the poison is what weakened him and everything before that was just stalling for time until the poison took effect. He literally could have absorbed Shinobu and then walked around the fortress and then had Kanao walk around the corner just as the poison took effect, she kills him in one hit and it would be the same resolution as this.
How come you guys are freaking out like this while chinks only pointed out that Douma was defeated quick and saying that the chapter was sad?
I honestly would have prefeerred a full on cult arc where they fought humans for some juicy conflict.
I mean, Akaza went down in the same amount of chapters, not counting the flashback.
There's unironically people that like Douma here.
Douma could digest and negate the poison but it take time. The point is that they have a very smalllittle window of opportunity to kill Douma, when he is weaken by the poison. They also don't know how fast Douma can digest the poison
>being surprised that people like a charismatic guy
do they get to choose what age they are in the afterlife? why would they choose to be 10 years old again?
>like normal storytelling = like Douma
Nice logic, user
Cause it when they last saw their family.
fine, happy?
its the time when they were happy. If you die, you would go again to the time you were happy.
It's regrettable that people are focusing on Douma's death, and not anything else in this chapter. I think it's a nice touch for both Kanao and Inosuke to think about their friends.
>more than 1 post/ minute
At this rate this thread is gonna die before Korean user wakes up.
>same patterns from the top panel
kino
shit, you can say whatever you want, but endings of fights are god tier.
Just remove "left"
Basically this. And it's the first time we get to see Inosuke crying.
Believe me, I get why you think this scenario was acceptable but the problem is that for this to not have been a terrible resolution he would have had to continue fighting while poisoned and just be getting weak and then they kill him just before his strength comes back in full. That way there would be evidence that Kanao and Inosuke were necessary and that Douma wasn't just weak and stupid. There is no evidence he was capable of doing anything when he was poisoned or that he could have recovered, so therefore there is no evidence there was a small window of opportunity to kill him. I get that the characters didn't know their fight was pointless until the end but the readers get told to go fuck themselves for ever being invested.
I like that Kanao finally broke down on both of her actual family members passing now. And also Inosuke.
>it was stated many times how strong the UM are and that pillars are dying left and right
>akaza already killed lots of pillar before aniki
>everyone was happy because a UM died after many hundred years
>weakest pillar kills 2nd strongest UM because of 1 year poison in her body
great writing wani why not give every fodder demon hunter poison
fine, fine. who else lost an eye, better get them in now
Actually, he cried back then aniki died too, but it was under the mask.
I was angry reading the spoiler too, but I don't feel that way any more after seeing Inosuke and Kanao in this chapter. Now I realize they have a common point besides Douma: both were unaware of their own human feelings due to lack of familial love in their childhoods.
Maybe I'm just a soft fuck, but I just want them to be happy. They already have enough sufferings as it is.
UM don't get stronger overtime, it implied that there a cap on how powerful a demon are( The drum demon) while human while weak and frail became stronger over generations.
Why do you care about Mist?
He's not a true sunbreath user
I didn't take that moment seriously kek, the mask bursting tears was funny. Here we are looking at his face and show sadness and tears. I also got moved, specially with the sister reunion.
This is just objectively false. If Upper Moons don't get stronger over time, they wouldn't all be so old and impossible to replace. Kyogai hit his limit and was ejected for it. Therefore, if any other demon hit a limit the logic would follow they get demoted for it as well. So they must not have hit their limits. We've seen some of the strongest like Akaza still constantly striving to improve.
The fact that he was stomping Douma's remains just moments earlier makes his tears stand out even more. His posture in this page is also very uncharacteristic of him.
It looks like to me Shinobu is feeling her way around due to sudden reduce of vision.
*Kanao
The Kanao/Inosuke stuff is cute, it's just a shame it couldn't have happened in a good or satisfying chapter.
Cute and c-user ;-;.
I think it might work like mmorpg where the stronger you are the more exp. needed to lv. up. So in Akaza's case he struggled to gain more power until the recent fight but instead of become more powerful he chose to die. In my opinion Akaza was weaker than Douma up until his head was cut off and he evolved. The evolve Akaza is potentially stronger than Douma.
The eyes is one of the arts highlight user, i love it.
>You pathetic demon hunter pests I'm slaughtering you all tonight.
>The weakest Pillar got killed.
>UM 2, UM 3 and Fodder UM 6 got BTFO
Really Wani?
To be fair, he said "I", and the battle is not over.
Yeah, it's kinda pathetic that the demons survived this long at all with how few brain cells they have. It's clear their problems could just be resolved by not underestimating their opponents.
He never has hope in the demons in the first place, well maybe except Kokushibou.
What if UM1 power is that he possessed anyone who kill him?
Thank you for the laugh.
What i mean to said that there might be a cap of how powerful a demon can get, it just that the UM cap is so high. Muzan wouldn't kick a powerful demon like Douma out even if he can't get stronger than he is now. Where will he fight a replacement now? Remember that demon didn't born powerful, they grow into what they are now.
I think hunters' main problem is lack of information. I mean technically the success rate would be much higher if they knew UM gimmick or abilities beforehand. For example, Tanjirou's knowledge from Gyutarou and Daki fight was very helpful in Hantengu fight.
You can't gather information if you dead.
That's why UMs survived for so long despite being a bit dumb/careless or maybe they survived too long they became too arrogant.
What a shit end to this fight
most pillar that retire end up as cultivators tho
I don't know, it's hard to believe Pillars ever lost to Moons in the past. The worst part is the demons keep being the ones doing the ambushing and they still lose. They have every advantage and still can't pull it off.
That was kind of disappointing, especially after Akaza's fight. So is this the final arc after all?
Yep. It'll definitely be over by the end of the year.
I hope Kokushibou don't get defeated in 9 fucking chapters
Shinobu was too good for this world.
>All this chapter did was confirming Tomioka as absolute gaylord
Don't forget uglylord
Not really wind's mom and mist's parents were all good ppl
Don't worry, when he gets killed in 6 chapters we'll have a thread full of people going "why are you getting so mad over some side villain because you imagined some hype".
She wasn't even sure it would work, it was a gamble on multiple levels. Please use reading comprehension.
While in the afterlife Shinobu is finally glad that Douma is dead and told him that she worked with Tamayo with the poison and wished she would be able to poison Muzan but she is still satisfied that Douma's dead, She told him that she believes that one day her comrades would be able to beat Muzan, when Shinobu was smiling genuinely Douma felt that his heart just flutter and told Shinobu she looked cute/beautiful (his first time feeling something) he finally believed heaven and hell exist and ask her if she wants to go to hell with him.
>Please use reading comprehension
Doumafags can't even read, don't ask for comprehension.
A gamble that paid off, thus proving everyone else in those hundreds of years was an idiot.
Ow c'mon you are trolling
Shinobu fought against the uppermoon 2 the second strongest demon created by muzan even knowing she was the weakest pillar, ofc she had a plan being the insect/poison pillar
She made an hand gesture to Kanao wich Douma noted
Douma was simply too cocky, had he killed Kanao and Inosuke before the poison kicked he'll be still alive
But then Again toying with ppl is Douma's traitt
I haven't seen people this mad since Luffy beat Doflamingo
Luffy "win" against Katakuri.
You mean "Luffy beat some side villian"?
more like a "rookie" pirate beats a "side villain".
Katakuri chose to lose, that's more like Akaza suiciding himself.
They didn't have knowledge of Douma, the sister managed to stick around becuase of the sun and tell Shinobu about him.
This ice demon was just a side villain guys! Did he even have a name? He had no hype at all! If you are upset over this you should be upset that the drum demon was killed years ago!
More like "100 chapters of literally nothing"
So Kaigaku jobbed because he is just a setup for Kokushibou's character?
Former Breath of the Sun master becomes a demon and recruits Breath of Thunder apprentice at some point.
That's really fucking kino
Her plan was "I'm going to let him eat me and that will fatally poison him". Literally zero percent of that requires any knowledge of him. She could have even just let him eat her from the beginning and never put up a fight. Or you know, put the poison in someone like one of Ubuyashiki's kids who were going to die anyways and let him eat them instead.
I think Inosuke cried not for aniki's death per se but because Tanjirou was devastated. At the time he only had a connection with him.
Kaigaku brought shame on Koku, he didn't imply anything cool about him.
Fuck you guys why do you Douma's fight to last longer than he should be. You should hype up Kokushiboh steamrolling 5 pillars
Don't worry. Douma will chase after her next incarnation.
*jobs to Tokitou*
see
Daki and Gyuutarou's fight can be arcs on their own
Thank fuck Douma didnt have survivabilty gimmicks. I'd have to gouge my eyes out if he stays for more chapters.
Next week we'll find he was already killed by Genya.
Calm down Kanao.
I want to have sex with Kokushibou
No no it's Murate who kill him.
I agree that whoever meets him will die.
Place your bets, anons.
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>can't select more than one
So you've already given up the hype as well?
should be a poll about whether he gonna job or not.
let's rate this fight
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Makima is going down this arc and Nezuko is probably going to be kidnapped. Someone has to be left alive at the end of this.
But this is the final arc.
>doumafags and edgelords btfo in one chapter
based croc
Tamayo's right eye got fucked first, but then it changed to the left one when she showed up again
That’s exactly what is happening.
Reminds me of the Tokitouposting back from sword smith village
Too bad none of the complaints have anything to do with headcanon. But I'm sure you felt clever anyway.
A villain’s undoing is brought about by their own flaws? What total shit writing, that’s definitely NEVER happened once before in any good story.
None of his flaws played any part in this and you're delusional if you think otherwise (hell, he even won in the afterlife which went against everyone's expectations who hoped he would get some karmic comeuppance). He lost because he ate someone but he needs to eat people to survive. His only other flaw is being stupid but being stupid is not an acceptable flaw this deep in the story, it's a repetitive flaw that keeps getting used for all these demons because it's the only way to justify these resolutions.
Did you forget the part where Muzan sees every demon under him, including the Moons, as completely expendable? For fucks sake he only praised Hatengu, who everyone accused of jobbing.
She had to be certain he would be bothered with eating her, which she only knew thanks to the sister. Letting him eat her would not have been believable and I'm sure Shinobu would rather live if she had a miniscule chance. Sacrificing Ubayashkis children is not an option,(they chose to die with their father) or pragmatic as they are less likely to run I to him.
tl;dr everything you said is wrong
Do not make the pig cry
fuck you for dying, Shinobu
you should've burned your death flag, damn it
His flaw is arrogance. That's why he died like a bitch, that is his karmic comeuppance, as you put it.
FUCK
Yeah you’re totally right user there wasn’t any point where it was made clear that:
>Douma has only got this far by coasting and literally just loads of women
>Gets taken advantage of by Shinobu, a woman
>Makes sure that Kanao, a woman, is with her to make sure he goes to take his time against her
>Douma’s entire carefree attitude taken advantage of to top it all off
Get reading comprehension
Stop butting into conversations you haven't followed. The point is that poison just eradicates any idea they needed to ever beat the demons by being stronger than them and everyone should have just been using poison from the beginning.
But arrogance didn't kill him. Poison did. Could have happened to anyone regardless of their arrogance. And he didn't mind dying, so what was the point?
Go write your feminist blogs elsewhere. Douma did nothing wrong and suffered no consequences.
Kyoujurous's mom was waiting
The thing is if he finished Kanao and Inosuke instead of "playing around", he would have had enough time to digest and heal from the poison.
There was a point where Douma blitzed Inosuke and Kanao and stole something directly out of their grasp before they could even realize what happened. He was 100% playing around with them and it’s pathetic it has taken you this long to figure that out.
This is an assumption. It is not at all implied he could have healed off the poison. He was also going to do something else so it's just as possible he would then die in a fight with whoever he found next.
No need to be stupid here. His toying with them didn't do anything, they didn't kill him, the poison did. And again, he didn't mind dying. He died as he lived. He was dead from the day he was born. Dying was even a positive experience because he got to feel emotion for the first time.
The problem with Douma's death is not about "muh Douma arc" (which would have been cool, but we can do without it), the problem is that his death totally fucks with the power scaling of the manga and it's narratively unsatisfying.
Like someone said last thread, imagine if they get to Muzan and he suddenly turns into a human thanks to tamayo's medicine, and then they just kill him instantly. It was foreshadowed, but it's not good writing. A better way to do it would have been to make the poison slow-acting, where Douma doesn't realize he's getting weaker at first, and then panics and busts out all of his strongest techniques, and then Kanao and Inosuke get the mark, and kill him just as he's starting to recover from the poison. That, or something similar, wouldn't have been hard to do, but instead we get this crap.
Well l agree but he still can summon giant Buddha so it still not that easy to finish him. At least still need pillar level hunters could finish him off. And I might read too much into it but he can digest the poison on shinobu's sword so he should be able to digest the poison from shinobu body if giving enough time.
>It is not at all implied he could have healed off the poison.
>Instantly adapts to the blade dosage of poison early in the fight
Shinobu herself was unsure about the effectiveness of the poison and instructed Kanao to quickly chop his head off
>expecting the manga to waste time on a random side villain
The manga's always been paced horribly, why are you even reading this. It's not supposed to be satisfying!
And? We got no actual delivering on that. He went from top of his game to worthless fodder instantly and couldn't even attempt to react to the situation.
Hot
The tokitou posting was very obviously someone trying to troll by saying shit about him making tanjirou irrelevant, but it never took because that obviously wasn't going to happen.
The real problem might be the fact that you expect too much from a weekly battle shonen manga in weekly shonen jump. I understand your point but I kinda expecting something like this to happen anyway, sooner or later.
Yeah but Kimetsu has delivered on those expectations until this (except for Gyoko)
@189630965
who let the Yea Forumstards in
Wasn't Zenitsu literally sold?
What if new UM 5 and UM 4 are much stronger than Douma, but just didn't have the chance to rise their numbers yet? Like, they were appointed to be 5 and 4 just because those numbers were vacant, regardless of their real strength (we know that to rise in number Moon needs to defeat another Moon).
I think the fact that "Gyokkou" happened would be enough for you to be a bit sceptical about the serie. But well I also think that since the serie keep delivered on the expectations up until now, people start to have higher hope for the serie, maybe too high for the author to keep up with it.
getting 2 UM 2 or higher tier demons out of nowhere would be a pretty big asspull
>Like someone said last thread, imagine if they get to Muzan and he suddenly turns into a human thanks to tamayo's medicine, and then they just kill him instantly. It was foreshadowed, but it's not good writing. A better way to do it would have been to make the poison slow-acting, where Douma doesn't realize he's getting weaker at first, and then panics and busts out all of his strongest techniques, and then Kanao and Inosuke get the mark, and kill him just as he's starting to recover from the poison. That, or something similar, wouldn't have been hard to do, but instead we get this crap.
But that would mean we'd have to suffer more Douma chapters.
Bad writing or not, the author made a good decision to write him off ASAP
People wanted Nakime to be UM0 (or at least to not have a revealed number) which would have made her more hyped. But the fact that she went from being beneath the Lower Moons to Upper Moon 4 by everyone else dying suggests she's not that strong and is just important for her special power.
Didn't Zenitsu elope before getting taken in by the cultivator?
>mad
It's just spergs butthurt about their cuteboy fedoratipper dying.
Why are you so salty about Douma? Is this one of those incel things where you hate Chads?
Kokushibou is the Chad. Douma is an annoying incel
Koku is clearly a volcel and not a Chad at all, Akaza was the incel
Wouldn't it be nicer to have Nakime be Inosuke mother?
I hope Muzan completely humiliates a bunch of pillars Aizen-style.
At least the chapter where Gyoko died was called "an unnatural situation" meaning it wasn't supposed to happen again. Is it really having high expectations if the expectation is "keep doing what you've been doing for the last 150 chapters"?
>Inosuke having to kill his own mother
Sounds nice to me.
Nah that's far worse than Douma's death here.
I never see Muzan as a threat, his minion is more of a threat than him. He just be at the top cause he created all the demon and control them. He pretend to be this intelligent villain but just a lucky manchild. Which is why he such a enjoyable villain for me.
>handsome
>strong
>atheist
>intelligent
>smooth
>successful with women
>has large following
>pure
Douma is LITERALLY me.
Or she came to save him during the fight with Douma.
If he can use all his demons abilities then yeah can see that coming. But the current Muzan nah not reall.
As long as Nakime is alive he is invincible, since only the sun can kill him.
Within the fortress nothing can kill him. The only hope they have is him turning into a human thanks to the drug Tamayo made.
And then he kills her?
He's all of us, user. Too pure for this world.
It's not about being a Doumafag or a sufferingfag, Upper Moons were hyped to be rivals in an entirely different level which pillars haven't been able to kill even a single one for hundreds of years. Now they're dropping like flies to trainees.
Daki alone supposedly killed over 5 pillars by herself. Now Upper Moon 2 falls to a couple of non pillar kids.
I understand that but I think the expectation goes a bit higher everytime Wani delivered what we're expecting. Well I also think she made huge mistake in this arc and now I'm curious on how things going after this.
Why did you post Lady Tamayo user?
welcome to shonen manga
I told you that the main problem is you people just expecting too much from a battle shonen from weekly shonen jump.
Eh, I'd take all those power of friendship wins in other manga vs. villains just not delivering at all losses in this manga. Villains die in this manga, so they only get one shot to really prove themselves. It's not like your standard shonen where great villains get redeemed and added to the cast of allies so they can get further development.
The problem is that UM6 fight was acceptable and Gotouge will never hit that quality again.
Why do you hate Jump so much? Is Kodansha paying you? What magazine do you read that people are allowed to put trust in?
He's probably one of those new "Jump analysts" that recently popped up and plague ToC threads. Probably from MH or twitter too.
Jesus Christ Douma, chill out already.
Hopefully you guys got it out of your system and don't need to post a whole bunch more, because it'll still be a few hours yet, and I'd like to try and actually fit it in this thread
What are Jump analysts?
Happy Potato Squad is my reason to live.
Did you miss the fact Uzui underplayed himself as a strong Pillar? He wasn't the prime example of how strong a Pillar would really be, and that fight had medium powered Tanjiro, Zenitsu and Inosuke, that's why UM6 looked a bit more threatening, and the exact same argument could be said about a damn Lower Moon in the Spider Arc, they boys were rookies so in comparison the fight looked tough as hell.
This really fucking hurt.
The are all dead, the whole fucking family is dead.
Why did Shinobu had to leave us?
At least they are happy now.
That fight would be regarded as terrible if people applied the same level of scrutiny then as they do to everything now.
It's the anime guys.
"Doumafags" was never a thing, but some newfags brought in by the anime thought that things like or pic related was something to latch onto, when in reality is more related to Shinobu.
Too pure for this world
I mean, back in the day threads didn't even reach 100 posts, even anikis death got 60 posts I'm not mistaken. This manga has gotten a lot of exposure since the anime aired.
>UM6 fight
>didn't even get a kill
>died to one pillar and 3 newbies
>took forever
Unless more chapters=quality i guess.
>Now they're dropping like flies to trainees.
Did you forget Sunbro's words or something? Hell, the pillars themselves had a chapter discussing that.
>Daki alone supposedly killed over 5 pillars by herself
In the past, untold years ago, the fact Urokodaki, Kyoshiro's father and Zenitsu's master got retire means that Pillars weren't all fodders like your mind is percieving them to be, the Upper Moons are experienced in killing the less impressive Pillars, it is only common sense to expect this generation of Pillars to more formidable than the past ones, the fact that Kyoshiro managed to hold off Akaza by himself to protect the 3 boys should have ceased your entire reasoning that Upper Moons were "suddenly" nerfed from being Pillar killers to Pillar equals, they were never confirmed to be killers of exemplary Pillars like Kyoshiro Rengoku.
It was absolutely clear from the panel where douma literally breaks her spine in half.
You’re retarded. Muzan and Koku can definitely carry an arc of their own.
It's clear that she is dead but many people here are delusional and denial so they keep spamming "Shinobu is alive" up until now.
Confirmed that Shinobu worked with Tamayo.
Douma's mom died of poison
Tanjirou told Inosuke that his mom still loves him (they were talking about his mom)
Kanao apologized to Kanae for not crying over her death, the reason she never shed tears was because her parents would drown her and all her siblings were killed by her parents
She thought of Inosuke's help and her comrades
This is a quick summary
>the reason she never shed tears was because her parents would drown her and all her siblings were killed by her parents
Why even fuck if you are going to abuse & kill them afterwards?
Many talk about demons being the baddies, humans are also worse than scum and you can see Inosuke's dad and Kanao's parents
Asking questions that have no answers, some people are just fucked and shouldn't have ever kids but they do.
>Why even fuck if you are going to abuse & kill them afterwards?
Unrelated things.
Call me nitpicky but it's Kyoujurou not Kyoshiro.
I know this is bait but Douma had all that popularity before the anime. That's when that art first got made and posted all the time.
I never said Douma wasn't popular.
Humans are the real demons.
People just love to fuck. Kids are unexpected outcome. Well at very least they still can sell their children for some money.
Well the demon was human before. Some make shitty by their curse, some born shitty. I wonder if that why Muzan became a demon, maybe the medicine was actually would give him a new body but his own malice and evil corrupt the gift and turn it into a curse.
Anime popularity brings more retard to the thread.
Well, you and your faggy friends are literally trying to rewrite history to imply this is some new phenomenon despite the fact archives exist. All these complaints and arguments were very present in threads since well before the anime. Douma as a character has nothing to do with it.
Probably. I mean he killed the doctor because the medicine didn't work fast enough.
I don't think you understand anything at all. Anime brings shitposters and people who do stupid things like fetishize an irrelevant character who just appeared in the anime (Susamaru). People who read the whole manga and come to talk about the manga in spoiler threads for the newest chapter of the manga are not "anime retards".
>desuarchive.org
?????
Read my post again
The reason why Douma didn't show a gimmick it's because he's literally an empty shell. He doesn't feel anything and didn't care about death. In the flashback he said that when he saw his mom dead, he didn't cry or show any emotions in that scenario. He was fucked up before getting Muzan'd.
Are you sure that anime doesn't bring more retard who just caught up with the manga here?
Well, you picked a nonsensical way to word your post. You responded to the people saying this the upset is because of doumafags and then replied it's because of the anime, neither of those things are true so you are still wrong. It's just people who read the manga and have always been in these threads.
How is your reading comprehension going user? user even made it clear on his post here >I haven't ever read post like these in kimetsuthreads
Nah, it's not from people that have always been here, it's clearly from some new, speedreading people just catching up.
I'm not saying it doesn't bring more people but the idea that what makes someone retarded is they became aware of something because of the anime completely misses the point. Anime ruins threads because it fills them with people who don't read the manga and just general shitposters who hate that something is popular or just want to spam their meme. Like a One Piece thread is terrible every day of the week because animefags are shitting it up except the day when the new manga chapter comes out then there's suddenly a boost of people actually talking about the manga. If talking about the manga is retarded, then why even come into threads at all. The complaints people are making are the same as they were in these threads before the anime. Anime ONLIES should be shit on at all times, but somebody who consumes both is not any more retarded than someone who just consumes the manga.
>the only way to defend hack writing is to accuse anyone complaining in newfaggotry
>It's just people who read the manga and have always been in these threads.
There isn't a single archived thread with someone or a group complainging about the outcome of a battle not matching up with their expectations on the level you seem to deslike the outcome of Douma's fight to the point of questioning Gotouge's writing skills. Kimetsu threads have always been small in the past, people barely talked bout deeper criticism, just following the chapter dump and character discussions.
And I'm saying you're wrong. I've been in these threads since they started on this board. It's a blatant lie that these are new types of posters. It's exactly the sort of comment one would make if they have only been in these threads since the anime started.
All you would have to do is read these threads instead of skimming them and you could see it's the same people who have been having these arguments for multiple arcs since well before the anime.
I think what that user try to say is anime bring more people here. There are more people than before since there're people who just caught up with the manga and come here for new chapter. Some are ok but some are just retard. You can't deny the fact that anime eventually brings more retard to the manga thread.
It is. No one complained the hack shit about Akaza and the asspulls after asspulls on red district light or how unnecessary was the Smiths arc
The archives have already been posted.
>It does not conform with my expectations, thus hack writing.
>green text.
Literally One Piece levels of rabid retards that think their theories are far better than whatever Eichiro Oda could ever write in his own series.
Oh fuck right off. That isn't even remotely true. There was huge debate over Gyokko for starters, multiple people in this thread have even called back to it.
I disagree, the battle power scale works properly and is the plot is very satisfying.
Tamayo's medicine is working against Muzan but we also get Ubuyashiki's prediction where he can only get killed by sunlight, whatever happens Muzan won't be left completely unaffected by the medicine.
The poison was slow acting, that's the whole point of Kanao suddenly being really talkative in the Douma battle, Douma panicking would be completely against the character established during the battle against Shinobu, where he essentially toyed with her.
Douma's death was in large part Shinobu's doing, her smoldering hatred of him granted the chance for the other two to finish him off, she even died cursing him, the way the poison was used here was very satisfying, like how it was used in the spider mountain, the demon is still very surprised by it and it weakened Douma to the only point where Kanao and Inosuke could kill him, even then not without lasting damage.
>Oh fuck right off. That isn't even remotely true
The archives are right there.
>There was huge debate over Gyokko for starters, multiple people in this thread have even called back to it.
Literally two posts in this thread.
Because there were no precedents of such terrible battle outcomes before the Douma's fight? Are you retarded? We are complaining exactly because Gotouge always delivered before and we had high expectations.
It didn't reach these levels if you didn't notice.
Please check them out. I think you'll find some nice surprises. I don't remember any major controversies before Red Light District but there were some near the end of that one, then the Swordsmith Village was filled with very similar arguments to this one and then this arc has also had plenty of complaints mixed in with all the shitposting about this being the final arc.
There isn't nothing, absolutely nothing in this fight that has gone against Goutouge's style of writing, your expectations fall solely on wanting this fight to last many chapters with Douma having Freeza levels of forms and gimmicks. Also why are saying "we are complaining"? From the looks of this thread you are replying by yourself.
I am not arguing the quantity, but the types of posts are the same. You're basically saying it's bad the series is more popular. I'm fine with that. I can accept that argument. It's the disingenuous horseshit about these being new types of posters that must just be autistic about this one character or anime fans that is pathetic. If your only tactic is to make up lies about the people you disagree with, you've totally lost the plot. Just ignore them if they bother you so much. No need to confirm you're petty or just stupid. People are allowed to be upset something betrayed their expectations. Just because you had lower expectations doesn't make you better.
This was chinks fault and that 5 sec of that tv program photo. All these complaints are based on being desperate that this is the final arc and so everything will be rushed as fuck.
Fine by me, here
>desuarchive.org
>desuarchive.org
Let's not even forget how anons called this on those chapters, like
>Inb4 she was actually storing lots of poison in her and it weakens him enough for Kanao to strike him down.
The arguments of the RLD were mostly during Inosuke's moveable heart, but in the end it was agreed that it was a good, but long, arc anyway. It literally just lived that thread.
People complained about those past things too. Why can't you comprehend that people would want improvement from a writer rather than just the status quo or a decline?
>I called them all newfags
>w-what now?!
>I'll accuse them of samefaggotry!
High quality arguments you got here.
>There isn't nothing, absolutely nothing in this fight that has gone against Goutouge's style of writing, your expectations fall solely on wanting this fight to last many chapters with Douma having Freeza levels of forms and gimmicks.
this desu
I have a lot of issues with how this arc has been handled and paced but the way some people are wailing about it being apocalyptically bad is just absurd
On second thought, I'm gonna be busy with family coming up for my grandma's birthday, and there is plenty enough conversation to go around anyway without my help. I'm taking a pass this week
By the way, I've ignored on purpose the discussion about Nezuko using fire, from the final chapter of the arc.
I think we should slow down with our argument a little bit. I don't want this to reach bump limit before Korean user comes.
Korean user is already scared away.
What a pussy
Why can't you comprehend your expectations not being met doesn't make an outcome terrible or unaceptable? Again, this fight is the same trite Gotouge has been writing for this series, if you don't like it that means the series might not be what liked after all.
I really like the eye designs in this series and Shinobu's are one of my favorites, even though they are literally bug eyes
Reminder that we will get to see Shinobu animated soon. Maybe in 6-7 episodes.
Good luck koreanon.
You have to understand that it's not that easy. This is the downside of working on weekly manga. l'm not gonna blame everything on tight schedule but it's one factor to consider.
Oh Happy birthday Korean user's grandma!!
Wani has never took a break, she has been always delivering since day 1. I wonder how tired is she or she just enjoys working.
Can't wait for her VA announcement.
Have you completely forgotten what the point was you were trying to prove? I have never said there weren't non-controversial chapters, you said there was never discussions like this before the anime or Douma. To prove your point you would have to link to every Kimetsu thread that has ever been on this board. All I have to do is find one thread where it did happen. So please be very clear in what your claim is or admit you don't have a point. What is it that you want me to pretend is new since the anime? If it's just quantity of posts, I really don't care. You need to go to threads from chapters where previous Upper Moons were killed, obviously you won't find complaints about how they are getting disposed of in chapters about Mitsuri's flashback or some shit. Every Upper Moon death has been divisive. Akaza's was probably the best received and that's probably because it had a good flashback.
Nobody is saying it is easy. But you don't have to come to her defense every single time and refuse to accept some things were bad or at least disappointing, people are allowed to complain about the art they consume. Pretty sure Wani probably can't speak English so none of this will be getting to her anyway, positive or negative.
Are you missing the point of the discussion? It's about the doomposters complaining, pretending to be "doumafags", like I mean, just read the quote chain. You don't even know what you are discussing anymore.
>japanesefans are mad
>chinesefags are mad
but "muh animeonlies" keep defending the wani hack
Probably both. She probably enjoys working on this manga and tries her best. But working on tight schedule can have bad effect on the quality. Many manga also suffer from this. Remind me of the time when I worked on research project. There's a point where you realize that you have to let it go to finish it on time or being blank and can't come up with anything.
I share the opinion that the writing still leaves a lot to be desired, but the current butthurt should be reserved for something outrageous that betrays the core of the manga.
For example, I would have seriously flipped out if Wani had tried to bring Shinobu back, even though I like her. Douma's death, though disappointing, doesn't undermine the manga to the degree that some anons are saying.
I don't know about nips, but are chinks mad about this chapter. Didn't some anons said they were quite chilled about it?
People saw it coming half a year ago Why are people so surprised now? It was fucking half a year ago, guys, come on.
That's not true, chinks only pointed out Douma was defeated quickly and that the chapter was sad. I don't know about japs on 5ch.
Not finding it, where are you finding those user?
I will kiss and marry Tanjirou.
Still the best Upper Moon, prove me wrong.
Not really trying to defend her. I think she made huge mistake here but I find this is the problem with many manga in general. It would be better if they can take a break to check where they fuck up or might fuck up in the future.
Boys can't marry other boys, Zenitsu.
>that the chapter was sad
I'm actually sad people are too angry to enjoy this nice chapter.
This. I think most of them die because they are too arrogant.
UM6 was slowly getting into the corner and it was a good fight.
UM5 is literally too arrogant. He is more of the caster type and yet he let his arrogant get ahead of him and fight the demon hunter head-on and get rekt
UM4 Hantengu is careful and give them a hellish fight.
UM3 Akaza is dead mainly because the sudden burst of Tanjirou who was into awakened state at the time ( and he can only be in this mode for few seconds and lost conciousness )
UM2 lost because he is throughly analysis and Shinobu sacrificed so much to prepare to take him down + his arrogant
That's Japan, the only work breaks are the golden week, or when you're sick.
Don't know about nips. Chicks are a bit disappointed but still find it acceptable.
Sorry, I guess I just don't get what point you're making. My bad. I have stayed up way too late and meant to go to bed hours ago. If you are saying Doumafags aren't real, I agree with you that the people actually complaining about the writing are just genuine disappointed fans and not Doumafags. But I was one of those people who was called a Doumafag despite the fact I've been a regular in these threads since years ago when user started translating here and none of the reactions for this chapter are surprising or a first for these threads. That is all I was saying. It has nothing to do with Douma as a character or the anime existing. People are just genuinely disappointed and it's tiresome that genuine disappointment only ever gets met with "you shouldn't have had high expectations", "why are you reading this manga", "he was just a nobody side villain", etc. Again, you can choose not to reply if you don't like disappointment, but you don't have to just call people who are disappointed "anime retards" or "homos with brain problems" as has been done today.
or whenever a dragon quest game comes out if you're togashi
The most downvoted comment in that chink thread it was from someone shitting on Inosuke kek
It'll read better when the manga's over. People are reacting to the reveal, they haven't gotten a page-by-page translation. Obviously the reveal gets most of the reactions, not the thing people can't read yet.
>you shouldn't have had high expectations
This one argument is appalling. Like, one guy says "the outcome of this fight is terrible!" and the other says "why are you saying this! the whole manga is terrible so it's okay!". They don't defend the manga or the author, they shit on them even more.
No, the apocalyptic wailing about how this is series-ruining hackery and a totally unacceptable outcome that represents an enormous decline is definitely new
t. Nezuko
I think if the hunters have enough information about each moon, including their whereabout, like Shinobu and Kanao, they probably struggle less against the moons(maybe except Koku and evolved Akaza). I find the power level of demons in this serie is on the level of "with enough information and a well planed strategy, together skilled hunters could defeat them".
No, it's not. Your problem is you are seeing it in the moment. You are assuming this will now happen in every thread and it won't die down (and if it doesn't then that will be new, but this wasn't new). This is just the initial upset as has already happened before. Once new chapters get back to giving people hope again things will be calm and then when expectations aren't delivered, people will complain again. That's just how serializations work.
Some people went overboard with expressing their disappointments, claiming the manga is now irredeemably shit and will end in 10 chapters. As a result, other people overreacted to these overreaction, and it escalated from there. Basically, everyone needs to take a breath and calm down.
or love live! if you are Miura.
Having high expectations =! fully immersing yourself in your own world/headcanon, though.
Some "people" being going absolutely doom about the results, when people properly reading already called it and saw it coming ages ago as seen in or is another thing altogether.
I think high expectations are a problem when people are setting a bar for future battles based on rose-colored nostalgic remembrances of past arcs that don't really measure up to what actually happened and overlook issues and inconsistencies that were present at the time. People kill their own enjoyment by overrating the past to a degree that they will always be disappointed by anything new.
INOSUKE FUCK MY SISTER
I BEG YOU
Kanao has officially shared more panels with Inosuke than with Tanjirou. NTR doujin when.
There is nothing wrong with high expectations, just don't project those onto others or the series, and lose your mind when those are not met. That is not how things goes.
You just make it sounds like everything is bad because things did not correlate with your own personal views.
I personally like that Wani was sticking with the setup she made twenty chapters ago, rather than pushing some retarded epic twist.
user, I think you need to go through this thread again. I've been here every week for quite a long time, and I've never seen it anywhere near this bad. Expressing concerns or criticism over Douma's demise is one thing, but this thread goes way beyond that with blatant shitposting. Hopefully this will all pass once we move to the next thread or next week, and we can go back to the usual pace of kimetsu threads..
I'm eagerly waiting for them
Tanjiro and Inosuke have shared more panels with each other than Kanao
Predicting something doesn't make it good. Someone was making Douma/Shinobu rape doujins before they ever met as characters. It doesn't mean everybody liked when it happened in the manga. Calling expectations "headcanon" isn't the proper definition of that word either. It is not headcanon to have hopeful expectations on how something might play out. You are just trying to have it all ways. Now your point is that people should have predicted he'd been poisoned but we knew he was poisoned last week so that's not even what this is about, now people expected him to fight back while he was poisoned or start to recover. You are saying people should be used to Wani's writing but Wani's writing has always been fake-outs that reveal a gimmick so now when that doesn't happen suddenly people are stupid for expecting Wani to do what she always does but they are also stupid for not expecting the same formula and complaining this was rushed because the pacing has always been this way? It doesn't make sense. Any criticism is written off as wrong for whatever arbitrary reason no matter how contradictory those reasons become when you add them all up.
inosuke pls
>I personally like that Wani was sticking with the setup she made twenty chapters ago
I agree. I'm surprised and a little disappointed the fight ended so quickly, but I still enjoyed it. The only concern I can see at this point would be if wani doesn't handle UM1 properly. If he goes down this arc I'll definitely lose faith.
Ok Tomioka
The key here is "too" high. It's normal that people have some/high expectations but when you set them way too high, it's difficult to reach that expectations you have. Since the expectation went higher every arc, it's normal that people are kinda a bit overeating here.
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Go post Douma x kotoha fan arts
And not predicting something doesn't make it bad.
But we are discussing about reading the series here, and this fight clearly had a preparation made before hand, different from the others.
It's possible you just missed some sarcasm and interpreted it as next-level upset. I think this post is the best description of what happened to a degree anyway. But I think the key is that people overreacted to the upset and tried to dismiss and attack the upset people as much as possible and that just made everyone angry. If you actually want threads to stay calm, you have to stop escalating. If you just like name-calling and deflecting anyone who disagrees with you as most people here do, then you'll continue to get threads like this.
UM1 can't go down unless Tanjirou is involved, since they have a personal connection. Except for Genya, the younger cast (a.k.a people will survive until the end) have done their parts of the fight and now out of commission. If there a time for UM1 to just mow down anyone he runs into, this is it.
Wait a second, wani never showed douma's body this chapter, only his head, right? It looks pretty unlikely based on what happens, but maybe he will survive in some capacity?
No, he's done. Akaza was a special case, no other demon besides Muzan is gonna survive having their head cut off
It's worth noting even people who are trying to maintain their hope admit they will be upset if Koku gets the same treatment or this arc doesn't deliver later on so don't everyone pretend to be surprised if there is controversy later. A lot of people only set aside current complaints in the hope things will be better in the future. If that future comes and things were not better, their level of disappointment will be larger. I mean for fuck's sake, there are still plenty of people holding out hope Gyokko is alive despite the upset with how he was "killed". If the way his replacement is revealed or forgotten is unsatisfying, then the people who hold out hope on that could be disappointed. It's not like they weren't already disappointed, they just hadn't confirmed it yet. The same thing happened with Shinobu fans who hoped she survived and now have finally had it confirmed she's dead. A lot of disappointment for Douma has been leaking out this entire arc with people saying they'll be disappointed if he dies here but hope he doesn't. Well, now he did. So they are disappointed just like they promised.
There's alway a preview for next chapter, there we will find out what's next
We saw him in the afterlife. I don't know why his body wasn't there but he as an entity is obviously dead.
Listen, I know you're new to this, but sometimes on the internet people say things in an exaggerated way in order to piss other people off, regardless of their actual feelings
Wani's fake-outs are not as faked outs as people make them to be.
The only case it really applied was against Daki, that we had no prior information about Gyuutarou.
Maybe Hantengu's, but ignoring, literally his name, he got his head cut right in the beginning of the fight, which prompted the actual fight.
Gyokko died as he got his head cut, and while Akaza didn't and he simply went on murderbot mode, the fight still ended there.
So who gets the Tanjibowl?
Me
Everyone. Tanjirou will do his very best to please anyone. You only need to tell him that the eldest son are supposed to do that much.
Yeah, it just struck me as strange we didn't see his body crumbling, or well, his body at all. I'm probably just reading into it too much though.
Yeah, I have to admit I was surprised the 10 chapters comment got singled out as an overreaction. Maybe I'm too old for these threads. It was clearly making fun of all the people saying you should lower your expectations for the manga by showing to what depths they could be lowered. Not every negative comment is someone being seriously negative, some of them are clearly mocking the people who are upset about the negativity.
Rongoku will rape him
This manga is for brainlets, don't try to read deep into anything or predict things, literally just consume pictures and praise author.
Battle Royale for the sunshine boy,
It literally got into dust, the head was the last thing to disappear.
We didn't see the body, only the head, for a few others too though. That is nothing new.
t. Salty doumafag
Based Wind chad.
But if you do predict things, make sure they are the right predictions so you can point out how everyone else was stupid for not sharing your brain. And never let yourself ever get excited or feel emotion. You are no longer an individual if you choose to consume popular art.
Don't be too angry now because your expectations were simply unrealistic.
You are just stupid if you thought the story was hyping a side villain.
Exactly.
You're having a meltdown
Glad to have echoed my correct opinions on the matter. Wouldn't want to sort through my thoughts and risk sharing an unacceptable one.
As long as you understand, maybe you can calm yourself a little now.
UM1 can go down to Muichirou since he's not specifically the man from Tanjirou's memories and Muichirou has a connection with a first breath user.
Why is Tanjirou such a good boy?