Who do you back in this fight?

>KC time skips
>gets in position to donut
>KC ends time skip so he can donut
>DIO sees that Diavolo isn't where he was, nor is he himself, and immediately THE WORLDs in a panic
>Kills Diavolo

>Diavolo sees nothing but Dio move for 10 seconds
>skips those and donuts Dio
>nothing happens because he's a vampire
>Dio kills him

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Obviously the man at the top.

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>back one dude
>he'll possibly give you immortality if you do well enough, you just have to watch out for the sunlight

>back the other one
>he donuts you because he's autistic about others knowing who he is

If Diavolo can get hit by fucking Polnareff, then of course he can get captured in time stop and die because Dio can kill people during time stop unlike Diavolo's time skip where he can't do anything besides move around.

What's the possibility that they'd be best buds after wrecking the Joestar bloodline

What fight is there to back? The cripple dies. He doesn't even get close to a hit in.

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even if Dio would somehow not be able to use the World after the timeskip, what would Diavolo even do if Dio pulled the same knife-throwing move like against Jotaro during the skipped time? Could he even skip time long enough to prevent a roadroller from crashing down on him, even if he sees it coming before it happens?

Dio and Diavolo? I really doubt they would interact.
Mostly because Diavolo just wants to sell drugs anonymously and live a quiet life.

the one with the high ground

Face to face, DIO would win, KC is more of a glass cannon

Dio

>Epitaph sees The World time skip and donut
>KC activates
>Diavolo moves out the the way
>The world activates
>Even in time stopped, Dio's actions are bound by fate
>Fist is missed
>Time resumes
>KC is still active
>DIavolo positions himself of a death blow
>Time is erased
>Donut

Whoever gets their stand to trigger first wins.

He can't see what Dio does in stopped time but the actions are still bound by fate.

Okay, the punch landed but didn't work, he's undead and regenerates. Dio would probably close the wound around Diavolo's arm chopping it off in a weird Araki body horror sort of way.

>Wrecking the Joestar bloodline
Now you're making me think if Dio would be willing to kill Giorno too, but knowing him, he probably wouldn't give a shit even if he knew that Gio is his son.

Dio is still a vampire only reason star platinum won is because for some reason he is strong enough to break stands.

And because Dio attacked with his left leg knowing that side of his body was still weak.

He'd care if Gio would help him in conquering the world but knowing Gio, he's more of a Joestar than a Brando

He wouldn't regenerate that fast because he has no blood to drink. Also Diavolo could just chop the head off.

Not the smartest evil genius is he.

>Super powerful vampire on steroids with regenaration abilities that can hop between buildings and has enough strength to lift and throw a roadroller like it's nothing, who has a ghost buddy that allows him to freeze time and punch at the speed of sound.
Vs.
>Schizo twink that got nothing on his own but has a ghost buddy with okayish time fuckery abilities and okayish strength, but even then almost gets fucked by a crippled baguette.

I don't know man you tell me.

What good would cutting his head off do when he can stretch his nerves and blood vessels out and use them as legs to walk back over to his body and reattach it.

Dio can freeze time before Diavolo can even see the entire scene of the future play out. You know, because time freeze is instant.

He can't control his body anymore. That's enough time for KC to finish him off.

Epitaph can see before Dio stops time. KC can just activate and move away. Dio's actions are still bound.

You're not understanding what i'm saying. Dio's head can extend weird tentacle looking things he can use to walk like the spider head monster from The Thing. He'll just reattach his head using those.

So why exactly does Diavolo get a head start to watch the future before Dio is allowed to do anything in the fight? Because you're a stupid fanboy, right?

KC can just grab the shit. Pull the head. and Chop that as well. Wait for the sun to rise and burn the corpse. I'm sure that the KC is more powerful than some veins.

>head start
>Implying you'd wait for the villain to finish monologuing than to attack immediately.

>ESL nigger
Checks out.

>Pucci resets the universe
>Kars is not ultimate
>Chop

>Can't prove a point so he calls him an ESL nigger

I'd be more interested to see Ringo Roadagain join the fight.
His ability is pretty fucking hard to beat even with the World (given Dios personality, without knowing Ringos stand, he wouldn't opt for an instant kill)

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Dio is definitely stronger, but Diavolo wins because he would try to go straight for the donut and wouldn't fuck around and boast for 3 hours like Dio would.

>Time is erased
>KC attempts to (or is successful in) donut
>Time stops
>Dio removes KC's arm from his chest
>donuts Diavolo in stopped time
>Diavolo dies because he's just a guy
Did you miss the part where Dio took a sword through the head and survived?

>KC tries to donut DIO
>Nothing fucking happens because he's a vampire.
>Proceed to drink Diavolo like a cocktail.

King Crimson>>>The World
The World works within stopped time, not outside of time. If it and Star Platinum worked outside of time, they wouldn't be able to freeze each other, and Made in Heaven wouldn't affect Star Platinum's capability to freeze time.The World wouldn't be able to stop time when King Crimson gets rid of time itself. On top of this, the results of any actions taken place during stopped time will be picked up by Epitaph if its active. The fight comes down to where Diavolo will strike after he deletes time and skips forward.
Dio>>>Diovolo
If Diavolo doesn't aim for The World like Jotaro did, Dio will take anything thrown at him being a vampire and all. That's all that it takes for Dio to win.

DIO would ask Ringo to join him seeing as his stand is pretty good

>King Crimson>>>The World
Dumb motherfucker. King Crimson has no effect on the world because all it does is, in practice, allow Diavolo to remove what happened in those 10 seconds from his opponent's perception, while giving him time to move around. This means shit if DIO uses The World, because then Diavolo can't activate King Crimson. All Diavolo will see is him getting one-shotted without any fucking idea how. And The World is activated before KC, Diavolo won't be able to think to use his stand, period.

Not a fair fight. DIO is stronger by far. You want to make it equal you do King Crimson VS Star Platinum.

Ringo Roadagain vs Diavolo would be interesting too. Mandom will undone King Crimson time-skip result by placing them in the 4 second frame of skipped time.

I should have emphasized Epitaph as another big crux in the scenario. Epitaph needs to be active to prevent The World from acting before King Crimson,

Move away to where? Even if KC erases the moment TW is activated, he will still be stuck unless he erases the ENTIRE effect of TW. Just like with Aerosmith, even if he erases the moment TW is activates the rest of time will play out as if it HAD.

The one with regeneration powers and laser eyes. Duh.

Brainlets think Diavolo erasing time means he would somehow negate TW, when that's really not how it works.

Issue comes from how actions done during timestop may be interpreted by epitapth, plus the issue of how diavolo needs to donut dio's head in order to win due to his regen (unless we're taking Dio after absorbing joseph's blood) or land a strong enough blow on Dio's stand in order to destroy it, as stand damage is really the only sure as fuck way to immobilise/kill dio enough for him to be put in sunlight.

To be fair Polnareff was also fast enough to skewer Dio’s Head without him noticing until it was already done. Dio himself said that if Polnareff had aimed the thrust right that would’ve killed him.
SC is just super fast man.

How would Epitaph and Thoth interact? They have very similar abilities but Epitaph’s predictions seem to be able to be negated by King Crimson proper.
Would Thoth be overwritten by King Crimson like Epitaph is or would Thoth predict the outcome of Diavolo having activated King Crimson?

SC blindsided Dio, the world is equal to star platinum in speed and SC needed to be boosted by Anubis to match SP, with is armour on at least. Anubis could boost a random barber to match SC and constantly makes them stronger

>King Crimson has no effect on the world because all it does is, in practice, allow Diavolo to remove what happened in those 10 seconds from his opponent's perception,
It actually erases time

How about Pucci aswell?

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>KC tries to erase time
>oops there's nothing to erase because actions within DIO's world take up 0 seconds of real time
>Diavolo ends up under a road roller

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How much time does Diavolo need inbetween each use of King Crimson's time skip?

If Dio waits until after the timeskip to use The World, he instantly wins. If he uses it before the timeskip, he also instantly wins because Diavolo can't activate KC once time is stopped.

Most arguments in favor of Diavolo assume Dio is stopping time during the duration of the timeskip, but that isn't consistent with King Crimson's mechanics, as affected people continue whatever action they were previously doing. If Dio was previously stopping time, Diavolo would already be stopped before time could skip, and if he wasn't, he'd be able to as soon as the skip ends and win.

>In practice
The use of erasing time is just letting Diavolo move around unnoticed throughout what goes on.

But can any of them kill the president 1v1?

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The World is a better version of KC

mostly just destroy his brain before he is active D4C

I don't think DIO would have a quick enough reaction after a time skip to avoid getting donuted, but he would still survive and timestop after that to one shot diavolo because he's a vampire. Sort of like what happened with him and Polnareff.

Diavolo because he's actually cool

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wrong

>implying DIO still has vampiric powers strong enough to be able to easily regenerate from being donuted
He literally has to suck the blood out of people to the point where they die to heal wounds.

talk about that
between Vampire Dio and Stand DIO, who win, if Vampire Dio can see and attack Stand?

Dio, because I understand The World's ability.

Vampire Dio.

Giorno isn't Lawful Good, he's Lawful Neutral.
Giorno doesn't mind crime as long as it's controlled form of crime with established rules, just like, you know, DIO.

RODA ROLLAGAIN

KC is pretty much counter to The World. But Dio is a vampire so who knows, anyway it is mostly about wits not raw power.

what if you cut his brain in half sideways?

Wounds done by that hommand style. Without that style attacks are useless on vampires.

Star Platinum blew his ass literally in half and he was still regenerating before getting killed by the sun.

What ARE the pillar men?

Personified asspulls.

Ringo is too much a King in his own right to be allied to anything wrong or morally bankrupt of any kind.

Maybe for a steep-ass price but he's immensely based, it was sad to see him die[spoiler/] but I guess that was part of him doing his thing

At time Z, Epitaph sees Dio blink forward to position X (Diovolo's position) at time Y, and activates KC so that Dio is now a sleeping slave to that fate. Diovolo moves away from position X to ready his attack, and at time Y Dio activates The World to attack position X (as according to his fate locked in by KC).

Who wins depends on how The World's power actually works. Does it truly freeze time like it says on the tin, or does it simply freeze everything in the universe while time still exists? If it's how it's always been written (time stop), then Dio would continue his course of fate until time resumes (which because time is frozen, is at time Y+0), only to find himself lurched forward at time Z+10, with Diovolo missing and The World on cooldown. From there it's up to whether or not Diovolo can even kill Dio by catching him by surprise

King Crimson can act indefinitely within the stopped time. It's like fighting superman on the surface of the sun.

Dio must realize how KC works. Also, he has the strength of a vampire. That said, if KC attacks first Dio could die. Can Diavolo punch harder than Jotaro?

Wham could probably defeat Diavolo if he learns about the ability. He could probably invent a chain of actions that takes longer than 10 seconds to perform which ends in victory.

Isn't the whole point of the Pillar Men they can only be killed by Hamon/the sun? If Diavolo could ever kill him with a punch to the head, then a full stick of high explosive mining dynamite should have killed him in part 2

it could be a never ending loop.

>Diavolo learns about Dio The World with Epitaph
>KC activates
>Dio realizes something happened because The World didn't activate
>Dio does it again
>nothing happens
>Diavolo has to keep doing this unless he wants to get killed by The World

Their durability vs. stands was never tested, but if they could pluck them apart like Stroheim intended to do or pulverize them you could probably take them out of action until sunrise. Whether they could perceive stands is another open question. They have superhuman senses but are absolutely not stand users of any stripe.

>The World's time stop occurs at a single instance
>King Crimson therefore will always be able to skip that instance and thus negate it entirely
>King Crimson therefore removes The World's time stop power entirely
>Dio's regeneration is limited via blood meaning King Crimson is going to massively affect him quickly, especially once he's hit in the head
>Diavolo has recognition via Epitaph meaning Diavolo can always skip any fatal attacks
How does Diavolo not stomp?

is Hamon stronger than Stands?

It's a hard counter to vampires and a self-buff, but it can't just beat the shit out of people like a stand.

DIO.
Epitaph isn't an ongoing power. Even then, no matter how comprehensive the look forward in time happens to be (ie. seeing everything DIO is going to do in the frozen time) all that erased possibility is meaningless once King Crimson's time resumes and THE WORLD starts up.

They both have cooldowns on their abilities, and Dio is a vampire while Diavolo is a normal human. KC is meant for hit and run and has E-tier endurance, while The World is made for fighting and has A-tier

Unless Diavolo can kill Dio is one surprise attack, Dio can just turn around and paste him

>muh skipped time
Muda da.

That's stupid. The act of freezing time has a beginning so It doesn't matter if time is actually frozen. You just skip the time timestop gets activated in.

I think it depends on whether Diavolo knows that DIO is a vampire or not
If he doesn't know he'll definitely go for the donut and think it's over, then DIO will catch him by surprise and kill him
If he knows he might be able to crush DIO's brain and either kill him right away or incapacitate him long enough to finish him off

This is the correct answer.

If The World's activation is erased, The World does not enter cooldown.

Araki likes Diavolo more than DIO.
Hell he likes Sigechi more than DIO.

A lot of brainlets don't realize that KC's erased time would only work on non-stopped time, so it would go like this:
>KC begins the time-steal
>DIO moves just as predicted, until he stops time
>DIO suddenly realizes he stopped time, even though he does not recall doing that
>since it's not a part of the prediction&erasure, he can do whatever as long as the result is what Epitaph's shown
>timestop ends, DIO's consciousness gets erased again
>Diavolo now has to deal with what DIO managed to do in stopped time (because he can't see that far into the future, he still needs to comprehend why the fuck did this guy teleport)
Ultimately IMO it would come down to who gets his cool faster, because if DIO donuts Diavolo in stopped time then KC won't help shit - but if Diavolo figures out the trick, then the bigger problem becomes surviving the vampire shit instead of The World

Bites the Dust still owns because there's no way to avoid getting btfo by it

>A lot of brainlets don't realize that KC's erased time would only work on non-stopped time
What makes you say that? If Dio stops time, does his shit and then resumes time, zero seconds have passed because time has STOPPED

Hamon is merely a means ancient civilizations used to emulate/awaken STANDO POWAH, so no.

Reverse King Crimson is the most powerful Stand and this will be the ED theme for Stone Ocean.

youtube.com/watch?v=QumxOQganfo

What I mean is that they assume Diavolo would somehow be able to predict what would be done during the timestop - which is dumb, he'd see DIO/Jotaro literally skip from one place to another
And even if he saw the prediction of getting wrecked, if it happens in stopped time he can't do shit - first off, 'only results matter' so there's no escaping that, second, he can't do anything when time is stopped

So, if Epitaph begins, Dio stops time within epitaph, Dio throws knives at Diavolo in stopped time, time resumes, and Diavolo sees this and erases the moment of the timestop, will the knives still be hanging in the air after the erasure?

It was bound to happen eventually. "Live by the sword, die by the sword" and all that.

theyll be inside my asshole

Hamon is powerful and can be trained. The only (and strongest) pro about stands is their variety of powers but you have to be born with it (unless you are struck by a special arrow).

>Human vs Vampire
>Said Human also isn't aware of vampiric status and will realize that immediately after dealing a supposedly finishing blow only to be countered by THE WORLD

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>And even if he saw the prediction of getting wrecked, if it happens in stopped time he can't do shit - first off, 'only results matter' so there's no escaping that
Except we literally see him warp out of his own forecast death multiple times

>second, he can't do anything when time is stopped
Obviously, but since he has up to 10 seconds to see it and activate KC then he can just activate KC before DIO activates the world, stop existing within those 10 seconds (of which time has stopped for him for 0 seconds), re-position himself and donut DIO

Dio's vampirism will allow him to tank a KC gut punch. All Dio has to do is get one time stop in and he wins. I think he can do it.

Let's say if Dio didn't have his vampirism would he gain a completely different Stand ability or would he still get The World

yes

The World was born from Dio's desire to be above all things. That has nothing to do with him being a vampire.

Most people can't use hamon to any meaningful degree, I think I saw something like 1 in 10,000 have to potential to use it on a level comparable to Jonathan/Joseph/the Zeppelis

>wasn't Finnished part 7

Let's say both Diavolo and Dio are in neutral position, they're about 5ish meters from eachother and neither of them have used their abilities yet

>Dio uses his ability first
>KC can't be activated in stopped time to skip time if there's no time currently moving to skip in the first place
>Dio donuts Diavolo
>Dio wins

Or

>Diavolo activates KC first by seeing future him getting donut'd by Dio with Epitaph
>Diavolo moves out of that position and instead sets himself behind Dio to donut him once he's done skipping time
>Dio quickly activates his time stop after realizing that Diavolo has suddenly moved and skipped time before he gets donuted
>Refer back to the comments above, Diavolo gets donut'd by Dio and Dio wins

Even without Dio's advantages of being a vampire (or just having it be Jotaro vs Diavolo), The World's timestop is still more advantageous to have in this matchup because KC can't harm people while skipping time, but The World can harm people in stopped time

Diavolo would only be able to win through other methods, like if Dio/Jotaro can't react quickly enough to them realizing that Diavolo has skipped time and stop time before they'd get donuted, but overall The World is superior to KC in this fight

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The hell he can. Why would you even think that? KC can move is the ERASED time. But if TW is active there is nothing to erase.

This. The World was something DIO gained well *after* he became a vampire, and there was also an alt-timeline Dio who had The World and never became a vampire.

It's nice to dream.

Why can't you motherfuckers just leave me alone? Let me kill my daughter, let me sell drugs anonymously, what's it to you?!

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No evidence Diavolo sells drugs.

he created the cartel.
it isnt just a mafia org because they specialize in narcotics

What would happen if all the time related stands went off at the same time?

God wins.

Depends if stopped time can be skipped.

>Diavolo donuts DIO
>DIO: Ma-masaka?!
>Diavolo says something about King Crimson and how DIO was dumb to go against him and he will die a painful death because of it
>DIO turns around and looks at Diavolo, laughing his ass off
>DIO's theme starts playing
>ZA WARUDO TOKI WO TOMARE!
>DIO frees himself, donuts Diavolo, probably beats the crap out of him for good measure, drinks his blood, takes a piss on corpse
>5 SECONDS HAVE PASSED
>Fucks his daughter, puts his 6th child in her
>8 SECONDS HAVE PASSED
>Finds a Roadroller
>Drops it on Diavolo
>WRYYYYYYYYYY
>10 SECONDS HAVE PASSED
>Soshite toki ga ugokidasu
>Diavolo blows up into pieces
>Trish moans in pleasure from being time-stopped-fucked
>Giorno immediately figures out that his dad is close and he has the power to stop time and he just stopped time

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>AAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHH SAVE ME GIORNO AAAAAAGGGGGHHHH

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Jotaro and DIO's abilities do not counter each other, they just move in stopped time. Diavolo's ability skips time to a moment after time was stopped and everyone else finds themselves where they are at the point time stops being skipped.

>meanwhile toddler Giorno is being left alone in an apartment full of trash.

>KC erases time
>TW freezes time, but erased
>MiH starts speeding up
>Mandom activates, rewinding everything 6 seconds in time, but the last 10 seconds were erased, so everyone is brought back 16 seconds

your second scenario assumes Diavolo has time to use and interpret Epitaph's vision before hand. so even that's generous

Shouldn't Time Skip be worthless against Time Stop?

The problem is that he can t move in the erased time that is stopped so maybe he is getting prepared to ambush in erased time but sudenly he gets pierced by TW punch and dies, Dio dosen t know what happened but Diabolo lies dead

Diavolo's position is a pretty unorthodox villain angle to be honest.

He's just a rockstar Kira.
He's like "What if Kira was cool and had a whole mob organization under his control?"

>Diavolo teleports behind DIO for surprise attack
>The World still has better stats, so he wrecks King Crimson's ass

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>talks about stats like they matter or make any sense at all
Lol

Dio's face is morphing to look more like Jonathan after stealing his body. His hair takes the shape of Jonathan's hairstyle and his lips become pouty more like a Joestar's.
That's fucking weird.
Is it symbiosis?

I'm not referring to stand stats, but to the fact that the world is much faster, stronger and more durable than KC.

The World doesn't stop time, but slows down time.

You mean punk.

>stronger
They're both A.
Strength just means How Hard Can They Punch? anyway.

Theres no proof of that

nigga, u dum

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Finally somebody says it, this is how MiH could move within stopped time

Where did the Requiem arrow even come from? The Ancient Nomad only made 6 arrows.

Except for his drug trade being the lynchpin of the entire story.

including the requiem arrow

People always say Dio will donut Diavolo either way but if Diavolo gets a head shot coming out of his time skip against a Dio who isn't reacting he could take shit. But that is probably the only way. It would require getting the jump and savage blow to the head. Although doesn't the world have cooldown of some kind? And im pretty sure KC is just spammable.

It was part of the 6 made

The World is superior in melee to Silver Chariot, to the point that DIO didn't consider Polnareff a serious enemy. While Diavolo had to be wary of base SC, because KC isn't strong enough to brawl it out in a straight stand fight.
The World has much better physical and speed feats, compared to King Crimson, such as an ability to "fly" by pucnhing ground and lift road rollers and fly with them.
Also DIO is a vampire and basically a punchghost in stats himself.

Diavolo annihilated polnareff in his prime easily, also feats of a stand dont imply a limit on what another can do.

but could have just as easily lost to him once JP knew how KC worked.

Diavolo wouldn't go for a headshot, though, unless he knew Dio was a vampire.

>feats of a stand dont imply a limit on what another can do.
>Hinata is FTL because feats of Naruto don't imply that Hinata can't be FTL too
I mean that's true, but one is shown being FTL, while the other isn't even stated to be close to that level.
The characters in part 5 are afraid of KC because of it's ability, not it's stats. KC never beat a single stand user in a straight fight.

He needed to attack the user to do most of the damage, and SC still took many attack before the end of the fight

He probably has intel about that and has researched the topic while collecting info on Giorno.

That's how it would make sense, and how it should work, but the manga itself says otherwise

Diavolo

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Depends.
The way I see it, if time is stopped before KC is activated AND Diavolo is knocked out or killed while time is stopped, then yes.

If KC is activated before time is stopped, then a chunk of time that contains what happens in the stopped time would be erased and everyone would be more or less where they started OR Diavolo can attack during that skipped period.

In any case, the scenarios in which KC would come up on top are fewer.

>poor grade zombie body couldnt even take these bullets.

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Or rather because both Jotaro/Dio's stand specialization is speed, their ultimate skill is speed up of time for themselves, this is how time seems to stand still to others. If you understand how special relativity works, you'd see this as a more likely assumption. Maybe Araki doesn't understand physics very well, but w/e. Once your body starts moving at speed of light, everything else stands still as if others have stopped, when reality is time has stopped for just you.

If you were traveling that fast you wouldn't even be able to sit in a chair without destroying it. Everything you make contact with would take a hit even if you arent trying.

(you)

Dio, not even close to a contest either.

You forget that Diavolo can move around. He sees the road roller kill him and he skips past it out of the way

kek

What if Dio gives him a haircut? How's he gonna use Epitaph without the hair in his face?

Diavolo.

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wtf is this shit
Stands don't work according to regular physics. The World stops time. There's no reason to assume Diavolo can move in stopped time either

Are you retarded? How is that any different than attacking in nonstopped time

He would skip past the haircut brother

When Dio punched Kakyoin in the chest, his blood splattered a bit. Regularly physics still apply in "The World", just slow enough that everything seems to stand still. Any physics is delayed until the power cancels out.

Friendly reminder that King Crimson is physically stronger than The World and Star Platinum.

Friendly reminder that King Crimson has E-Rank Durability

Kek meanwhile The World got punched once in the leg and blew up

Clearly DIO. Even if time stop cannot activate in skipped time, DIO would probably be able to tank any injury Diavolo gave him and be able to do it him in return. Also DIO would be a better boss

And King Crimson needed Big Dick Aerosmith to bail him out of fighting Metallica

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This. Diavolo would make a doughnut out of DIO, then DIO would turn around and stomp him into the dust. Just like Thor, Diavolo never aims for the head.

Risotto just stopped paying attention.

that's his weakness, if you shave his head the future will instead be displayed to everyone who looks at his scalp

Im right tho. King Crimson always obliterates everyone he touches. The World punched Jotaro a ton and only gave him broken bones

It wasn't really Risotto's fault, he didn't realize boss baited Narancia until he got shot

>implying that was because of general durability and not dio attacking with the leg on his weak side which had gotten cut off recently and that he just fired blood from

>Doppio picks up a rock to answer a call from the boss
> "Doppio, listen carefully, there is an extremely dangerous stand user nearby, i will be there soo-"
>Dios fist is already shoved through his stomach

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Dio was also significantly wounded before that "explosion".

It's important to remember that a stands health is reflective of it's user's. Just like when The World gets it's leg shattered and dio's leg followed. It only makes sense that the opposite is true.

REMINDER that dio got his legs heavily damaged RIGHT BEFORE that final punch to the shin. It is likely to assume He did not have enough time to regenerate it fully. Therefore The World would have it's legs damaged enough for it to be vulnerable. (even if it didn't show) as a well.

This is assuming Diavolo and Dio would even have a reason to fight if they encountered each other. Imagine a super villain force of Pucci, Dio and Diavolo. Motherfucking legion of doom but effective.

i dont think Diavolo is the kind of person to let anyone get that close to him, but Dio and Pucci would be unstoppable even without him.

He should have punched him with his own vampiric strength instead of relying on za warudo.

I guess you forgot Kakyoin and the numerous time stand canonically weaker stand than the world, like KQ or WS, donuted people.

If regular physics still applied that means DIO punched him at relativistic speeds, so Kakyoin wouldn't have been flying away at a speed you could see him, time would unfreeze there would be a sonic boom and kakyoin would've been vaporized, The World FREEZES time.

Nice deflection. Diofags have no excuse for The World not donuting Jotaro

You cant freeze time and then act in it. In fact, the idea of time has been losing ground in physics for nearly 100+ years. We, scientists/physicists, used to think time as something tangeable. Einstein then moved the time as a separate dimension and tied it to space. This is where special relativity shows that time moves at different rate for everyone, that's because everyone occupies difference space-time. Then comes QM, now time is not even relevant anymore here.

So DIO's power cannot be stopping of time as that doesn't exist. What exists are relative motion of different things, thus Dio's power can be explained simply as speeding up of his stand, relative to others.

>You cant freeze time and then act in it.
You can in Jojo. Araki isn't a scientist and does not care about any of the shit you mention here. DIO freezes time, end of story.

>You cant freeze time and then act in it.
Have you stopped to wonder how many stand powers are physically impossible, not just stopping time? It's just magic; each stand works by its own rules, which are different to the rules our universe works with.

>You cant freeze time and then act in it.
you can if you're DIO

The matter of fact is, Dio moving while "time is stopped" is an incorrect assessment of his power. If time is stopped, Dio wouldn't be able to move. The only way to make him move, while "stopping the time" is to make him move at light speed(or close to it). Physics still works to explain how the power works. Saying "its magic" when a perfectly relevant physics explanation is there is dumb. How do you explain Dio moving if not through physics? Dio moves because magic powered his muscles which magically moves to general magic force and rips uses his stand to magically generate magic force which magically interacts with physics force of electromagnetism to punchthrough Kakyoin's physics based stomach?

It's a fantasy story you seething retard.

Star platinum is stated to be faster than light, most stand don't make a lick of sense when you analyse them for a few minutes

Acceptable. If you accept that someone who is born in America, has an American parent, has an American name, has an American citizenship, speaks American English, has an American childhood and lives in an American home can claim he's Chinese and born in Germany and living in Russia while speaking Hindi to you right now, and lives in the surface of the Sun.

>Saying "its magic" when a perfectly relevant physics explanation is there is dumb.
Saying that he doesn't stop time when the author says he stops time is dumb.

If I'm writing to you in English but claim I'm actually writing to you in Japanese, does it mean you're reading this post in Japanese?

If Diavolo has the knowledge Jotaro had of going for the head, he wins. If he tries his regular routine, he dies.

No, because your post is real.

>implying epitaph can't see everything that will occur in frozen time
This is like a 2D character fighting a 3D one

MiH didn't move within the stopped time, time sped up so the amount of time that Jotaro was able to stop was reduced. If he was able to move in the 'slowed' time, he would be moving at a slower pace, not at his normal pace.

even if he can, he can't do shit about it

he can just erase it, or move

Lol you are an actual clown. A random person claiming something about reality doesn't mean anything, because it's just some person.

Meanwhile the author is the absolute authority over everything that happens in a story. Their word is law.

Right, but if two random people are arguing, then what? Its not like Araki browses this thread and argues. All I see is bunch of fanboys clinging to their perception of what Araki wanted. And that's no better than any other random person making claims about what someone else thinks about it.

This is all unironically correct.

DIO clearly is more imposing and way more confident. Just look at him. I'd back DIO all the way, like he's just a fountain of self confidence of smugness.

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He's strangely cool to everyone who isn't a Joestar in Part 3 and later revealed in 6.

DIO is the least intimidating main villain in the series. He turns into a massive panicking pussy as soon as anything goes wrong

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Like a simple finger twitch when he could have just finished Jotaro off. OCD? Autism? you be the judge.

Polnereff skewered his brain and he was unaffected by it.

He didnt cut it in half sideways nobody has tried that.

He was a huge asshole to random bystanders during the fight with Star Platinum, but I think part of it was while he was "high"

He let Hol Horse live even after knowing Hol Horse was about to betray him.

I doubt that was out of the kindness, he just thought Hol Horse could still be useful.

Better Question: Which of these two would win?

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White Snake pucci
C-Moon pucci
or
MiH pucci

White Snake

What can WS do other than extract your stand and life energy as discs if he touches you? That's pretty bad, but Diavolo would see it in his hair and erase that moment from existence.

Can Diavolo even hurt Dio's body? The only way to kill Dio iirc is sunlight or killing his stand and then sun.

Decapitation would slow him down.

Consider this: Both Epitaph and King Crimson has a cooldown and White Snake is Automatic
It's a very possible scenario for a stalemate to happen to the two
But you're right, C-Moon might be a more interesting fight between the two of them

Is it happening tommorow bros? not ready to be sad

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Depends on the nature of the fight, and what they were trying to achieve. Dio would easily win in just about any physical confrontation, but if it's one mob boss against another, where their henchmen do all the fighting, Diavolo's men had superior stands and has a much stronger network to work with.

>White Snake
Depends on what stands he's stolen before the fight begins
>C-Moon and Made In Heaven
Pucci wins, easily.

It's consistent. That's how he's been ever since the first time he pissed off Johnathan enough to actually hit back. Joestars also trigger the fuck out of him, and by part 3 it's probably bordering on psychosis