Why is LOVE LIVE more popular than IDOLM@STER and BanG Dream?

In 2015, 765pro held its 10th anniversary concert at MetLife Dome, which was watched by 39,000 people a day.

In 2016, μ's held a concert at the Tokyo Dome, which was watched by 55,000 people a day.

In 2019, BanG Dream held a concert at MetLife Dome, which was watched by 15,000 people a day.

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It's a well estabilished franchise that came just at the right time.Bang dream is too new for for huge concerts like LL has,but it's getting there.Idolmaster having a self insert might or might not have something to do with this,who knows.

In 2018, IDOLM@STER relied on the sales of mobile games, and the market size of IDOLM@STER was barely more than LOVE LIVE 300 million yen.(The market size of Madoka in 2018 is 9.2 billion yen)

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In 2018, the total sales of IDOLM@STER series, animation + comics + books + music is 7.4 billion yen.

Plus sales of mobile games,The total sales volume in 2018 was 27.6 billion yen.

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In 2013, the market size of Aikatsu! was 30 billion yen.
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In 2013, the market size of IDOLM@STER is 10 billion yen.
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In 2015, the market size of LOVE LIVE was 42 billion yen.
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Sales of IDOLM@STER increased by 10 billion yen in five years

And LOVE LIVE sales fell by 20 billion yen in two years.

I don't know if LOVE LIVE is getting weaker, or IDOLM@STER is getting stronger.

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LL got weaker because of Aqours.

because they are young and sparkling and have big dreams and overcome the greatest odds

idolmaster is about professional whores going to work and making a living, some of them are even old womem

/jp/ nobody invited you.

Aqours killed LL and forced Myuz out of retirement.

This, self-insert series are dead. We're in the age of yuribait.

Also because Honoka was a slut.

>765pro
Found your problem. Give 346pro statistics.

>765 is all of im@s

Every single installment of Idolmaster has a self insert producer, you silly little newfag.

You're listing the self insert as the reason why im@s, or rather 765pro alone, is doing worse than LL, while ignoring numbers from other branches like 346pro.

LL sales declined mostly because people are waiting for the new game. im@s grew thanks to SideM.

I'm not listing shit. That was my first post in this thread.

But for the sake of argument, when something is listed as "X series" I'm pretty sure it's not just talking about one part of X.

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Except they've been declining on all fronts. Anime sales, comiket circle numbers etc.

Not always. OP for example specifies 765pro and takes it to be the entirety of im@s and those two replies follow that assumption.

THE IDOLM@STER CINDERELLA GIRLS 6th LIVE MERRY-GO-ROUNDOME!!!

In 2018, 346Production held its sixth anniversary concert, which was watched by 50,000 spectators a day.
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In 2018, Aqours held a concert at the Tokyo Dome, which was watched by 60,000 people a day.
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Sunshine was by far the best selling anime of 2018 and sold 70k in 2019 already.

You should have posted these from the beginning.
>60k a day for 2 days is 150k

Bet those were all sold out. The problem is these concerts don't tend to sell the same number of tickets. The best way to compare is hold each franchise's concert in the same 500k+ capacity location and count the number of unsold tickets.

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Nothing wrong with hags

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346Production 67 performers
Aqours 9 performers

Is it 55000 or 250000 people for muse? I dont get it

This man know what's up. In fact, h@gs are the best.

Please play and watch BanG Dream, you'll like it but you probably won't even start it.

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The covers alone are a complete turn off. Ditch them and I'll consider.

I was hesitant to give the game a chance because i did not know th characters, I gave the game a chance and Aya is my waifu now.
you can, i dont know, not buy them

Tokyo 7th Sisters has the best songs of any idol game.

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I agree with you there,but T7S is pretty irrelevant,even for 2d idol standards.Witch numbers 4 is the best unit and nobody can convince me otherwise

55,000 people are already the most conservative estimate
The actual number is likely to exceed 55,000
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susuta is better
ci+lus is best

Susuta is shit.Nico+la is the better subunit.Ci+lus is great though,I'll give you that.

t. Musubi

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Bandori has some of the best writing as far as rhythm game goes. Each character is fleshed out and explored in detail, with their own insecurities and mental health issues.

The storyline is gritty and complex as compared to LoveLive's lack of actual content.

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i love how the band in bandori interact. unlike LL when the only character interaction are for yuri baits

Any edgy drama like T7S has?