Why isn't serious anime made anymore?

>My anime is 99% formulaic garbage but it has this unique twist that makes it totally original!
This shit needs to stop.

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Why aren't serious Yea Forums posts made anymore?

It's all self-referential pandering and ironic bullshit now. No real lulz.

What is your definition of serious exactly?

Unless you're saying they were coasting on boom money for nearly a decade this doesn't match up. The 90s was absolutely saturated with comedies and pandering, it's just that now you babies get a curated list of select anime to choose from for the decade and skip the bulk you feel you go through now.

They make it all the time, but the problem with you people is that you never watch it. And you never watch it because you don't hear about it. You don't hear about it because you just sit around expecting someone to tell you what to to watch, but what the masses want to watch is SAO or OPM.

>Like 90% is generic trash
According to people who don't watch or barely watch anime.

This series (both manga and anime) is the only series who fit what you are searching in modern anime:
-great lore and writting (get better arc after arc,and also the mangaka planned everything since the chapter 1)
- good characters, some more developed than others, but even the less developed are actually interesting and cool.
-when the series reach 3/4 it changes in better from a apocalyptic zombie story into a gray and pessimistc war story.
-literally zero fanservice, the characters have human and realistic looking.

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>This series (both manga and anime) is the only series who fit what you are searching in modern anime
You clearly know nothing about anime.

Otakus are the ones that are keeping this industry alive. And incredibly safe, low effort harem series gets the job done.

>muh harem bogeyman meme
Does ANYONE here actually watch anime?

Not him but you're delusional. Go read a book you fucking weeb.

In modern anime (2010-2020) is literally the only one who fit user's description

Couldn't have said it better myself. Niggas literally need to watch listen to their favorite youtuber or watch a video essay to watch obscure shit.

If you define modern anime by the very, very small number of shows that become mainstream in the West (to the extent that any anime can become mainstream). You have absolutely no idea how much more there is to anime because all you know is what gets popular.

>good characters
Absolutely fucking not, they're hot garbage.

In the recent weeks both Dororo (which inspired Berserk) and Attack on Titan got really serious in tone and plot development. Even Fruit's Basket throws some seriously dark curveballs and plot points and characterization in between light hearted shojo tropes.

Like most forms of media, 90% is garbage but there are always a few standout series, or series that matured in its writing.

autist
turboautist
If you're too dumb for anime at least fuck off to faggots. Hollywood is a better fit for you.

>Like most forms of media, 90% is garbage
It must be true because people on the internet keep repeating it.

Looks like your stealth rec thread just bombed, OP

Just because something takes off in the West doesn't mean it is automatically hot garbage. Thinking that shows how new you are.
Eren (at least how far he has progressed in the manga) is a moderately well written main character compared to every modern seinen or shounen recently. MHA, HxH, Shield Hero, all their male MCs are terribly one dimensional and meant for self-insert.

Not saying Eren or Reiner are the GOAT characters, but they have solid writing and consistent characterization.

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I never said that something is bad because it takes off in the West, so what are you talking about? I said that you have no clue about anime.

myanimelist.net/anime/season
anichart.net/Spring-2019

Look at how much of it gets released every season. Few people even know that these charts exist. They only know what's popular through word of mouth.

Sorry to dissappoint you but literally the 90% of the anime produced between 2010 and 2020 are : shitty harem ecchis, generic isekais, generic shonens copypasta and shows who birth with an interesting idea but later becane shit (like happened with TG).
The only good 10% is composed by : sequels of old series (soukyuu no fafner: Exodus), remake (dororo) , some mistery short anime (erased,ajin and inuyashiki) and adaptations of really old mangas (parasite: the maxim).
In all this SnK, a series started as manga in the 2009 and as anime in the 2013 is able to be long and good enought to stay in that small 10% even if it doesn't fit in anyone of the groups i wrote.

This is meme nonsense by someone who watches very little if any anime.

Jesus fucking christ

It must be false because one guy says it isn't.

Literally the entire basis for this 90% meme is that one guy said it, and everyone's been blindly repeating it ever since.

There's been produced signfiicantly more anime and of higher quality in the last ten years.
For example, look how fucking horrible older anime looked, the proportions are all fucked and the animation in general is pretty shit.

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Source?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon's_law

You don't consume anything but anime? No music or food or television or film or literature? The music scene particularly is dreadful. Thank God you have some modern marvels like Aphex Twin still influencing the industry and revolutionizing what electronic music can do.
smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/science-proves-pop-music-has-actually-gotten-worse-8173368/
Well OP never even detailed what he thinks of as "serious". I'm guessing he thinks grimdark=automatic kino or some shit. Might as well steer to topic to something interesting to discuss.
>MAL
Eww.
I use Livechart all the time. Most do. 60% of it is moe SOL or isekai trash. Doesn't change the fact snk completely changed (in a good way) from how it started, as did characters. Well written characters aren't static, they change and grow.

Half of Yea Forums turns into chart threads at the start of every season, newfag.

And almost every single one of those seasonal anime are nigh-unwatchable cashgrabs. The amount of new anime per season has drastically increased in the past decade, but the amount of good anime per season is just the same as it used to be.
Hell, with the shoestring budgets of today compared to the 90s, you could argue that there are even less truly good anime coming out.

>Cowboy Bebop poster
>Retarded
Every time

Pic related was recent and serious.

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>Implying
Shakespeare was melodramatic and Zany for his times, was even criticized for that by critics of his time

Yet his literature aged better than any of the more "realistic" shit of his era

Kill yourself Realismfag Zoomer

Admittedly, AoT characters aren't the best, but Reiner and Eren are very well written.

90% of everything is not garbage, and people are unaware of this fact because they are unaware that it's possible for something to be neither good nor bad. Things can be mediocre. Average. Pretty good. Not bad. But now everything is either 0 or 10, because people are absolutely retarded.

>MAL
>Eww.
This is a meme. There is nothing wrong with MAL's season charts. There's nothing wrong with using MAL to look up information. MAL is more than its forums. Stop.

>60% of it is moe SOL or isekai trash.
In the current season there is only one isekai, Kenja no Mago. There's only two SoL anime, Hitoribocchi and Senko-san. There are a few others if you include short series.

Very few people know about season charts, newfag.

>And almost every single one of those seasonal anime are nigh-unwatchable cashgrabs.
Meme. Again.

Sorry to burst your bubble but some of the best selling manga, and very popular anime adaptations, are Death Note, Full Metal Alchemist, and Attack on Titan. All fantasy anime but also all very serious stories. Any fanservice they have is just a minor annoyance and isn't related to the appeal of the storytelling and concepts.

Nobody gets into anime because they want to see shit about little girls. They get into anime because they want high concept fantasy with feels.

Where did this meme come from about everything being isekai?

The shows that are popular in the West are usually not popular in Japan or are much less popular there, and vice versa.

Just the regular whining of anything that becomes popular like battle harems or romcoms.

The same place where every anime meme comes from: non-anime watchers and casuals running around like headless chickens shouting about some shit they don't understand.

And you are unable to comprehend hyperbole.

It's not hyperbole, it's ignorance.

degenerate otaku neet bux.

Ah yes, the 'Yea Forums doesn't know shit yet insist they do' threads, my favorite.

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There is no such thing.

Melodrama != serious.

op did nothing of the sort tho, unlike you zoomer faggot

>O wish Japan would only produce serious, adult anime for serious, adult grown-ups like me!
Oh fuck off.

i suppose you're the one keeping the industry afloat then?

I'm not entirely sure if this is a troll post. I'll respond anyways. Who do you think buys all the merch and DVDs?

>Nobody gets into anime because they want to see shit about little girls.

.......

>They get into anime because they want high concept fantasy with feels.

The only agreeable thing you said

This has nothing to do with me.

>very few people know about seasonal charts
Ah, that explains why chart threads always easily get 200-500 replies
And STALKER threads are also very popular, they show us which series are the best selling in Japan. So your "western viewpoint" argument also doesn't hold up.
And yes, very few shows are actually worth watching. Either the "story" is cheap pandering or the animation consists of still frames with moving mouth flaps.

Cowboy Bebop wasn't entirely serious though.

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I love CB but truth be told it's a fucking western tribute anime

...

>Nobody gets into anime because they want to see shit about little girls
Speak for yourself, homo. Lolicons and moefags are single handedly keeping the industry alive at this point. "Muh classic fantasy hits" are just flash in the pan seasonal boosts.

Do you think every person who watches anime is an Yea Forums user, or a user of any dedicated anime community? Even then, anime communities are full of people who have no clue what is happening.

>And STALKER threads are also very popular, they show us which series are the best selling in Japan.
Yet very few people here (let alone elsewhere) have any idea what is and isn't selling.

>Either the "story" is cheap pandering or the animation consists of still frames with moving mouth flaps.
These are both memes and reveal you as someone who has no clue about anime.

The best selling TV anime of all time is bakemonogatari, a thinly veiled ecchi harem, faggot.

Watch OVAs and movies, faggot.

>Otaku pandering
>Generic moeshit anime style
>Anime is dead
>Any sort of this sentiment
Anyone who says this bullshit is guaranteed to know nothing about anime

>everything is a meme
>you just don't know about anime
Very good rebuttals all throughout this thread.

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>Shakespeare
You couldn't have picked a more overated artist even if you tried
ANY Greek tragedy we know is 30.000 better than anything Shakespeare has ever produced
The only thing that is really worth reading is his Sonnets

>The shows that are popular in the West are usually not popular in Japan
I think that only applies to maybe Big O. Can you name 5 anime that are notably popular in the West and weren't popular in Japan?

And before you say it, Bebop was quite popular in Japan when it aired and had great sales.

Really? More than One piece or the other battle shounen garbage?

>Why isn't serious anime made anymore?
There are plenty. You're just not actually looking for them

>The best selling TV anime of all time is
Still Evangelion dumbass

Unfortunately, almost every single thing people say about anime IS a meme. Not my fault.

Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Death Note, FMA and One Punch Man are significantly more popular here than they are in Japan.

Their format for listing cast and crew is hot garbage, I don't agree with those who run the site and there are enough alternatives to not warrant giving them revenue via clicks.
>there is only one isekai in spring 2019
What? The most torrented episode every week has been Shield Hero. The fact that one slipped your mind is laughable.

Summer 2019 has 6 isekai maybe 7
livechart.me/summer-2019/tv
It is very easy to find out via search engine. Which is funny you're talking about beat selling in Japan, when the best selling volumes of all time in Japan are first One Piece, then snk, which sell well in America too.

Can't really dismiss those who bother buying volumes in the West either, they make up a substantial chunk of what money the series makes. Fucking bnha is outselling any new series Marvel comics have released since 2015.

>almost every single thing people say about anime IS a meme
>meme

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>Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Death Note, FMA and One Punch Man are significantly more popular here than they are in Japan.
That is a complete and giant fucking lie for every single one of those, except Champloo

Especially FMA and One Punch Man. Like are you fucking insane? Why do you think that the former got a second adaptation and the latter is considered one of the most godlly animation teams? It sold 10k average in Japan

Where did you even hear that those were considered unpopular in Japan?

Yes. But if you count manga+merch, the big three would be higher
I was wrong, EVA sold more. It's still funny to see people losing their mind over the fact that Bake is one of the best selling TV anime in history.

>implying anyone is still following One Piss after Fishflop arc and Floprosa

You were memeing and now you are scrambling for some reasons to retroactively rationalize your memeing. MAL is a meme here because of their forums.

>What? The most torrented episode every week has been Shield Hero.
Shield Hero is from last season.

>Summer 2019 has 6 isekai maybe 7
I am only able to spot four. And why do you people always cite the upcoming season that nobody has watched, never the current or previous one?

>It is very easy to find out via search engine.
It's easy to find out many things via search engine. That doesn't mean people are doing so.

>Which is funny you're talking about beat selling in Japan, when the best selling volumes of all time in Japan are first One Piece, then snk, which sell well in America too.
?

Yes, that is indeed what I said. Well done for being able to quote me.

Most anime sucks.

Cowboy Bebop was never popular in Japan

>EVA sold more
Why are you randomly choosing stats to apply? Where are you getting these numbers? If you're saying everything applies (anime, manga, figurines, other merch) then the clear winner in Japan and West is the same--Pokémon.

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Read my post carefully:
>significantly more popular here than they are in Japan

No it doesn't. You just don't like anime.

>it's pokemon!

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>>significantly more popular here than they are in Japan
Then how do you quantify "significantly" exactly? Twitter followers? I pointed out Big O as something that actually was more popular in the West because it's second season was made exclusively for the West but that's really the only major one

Then why did it sell an average of 19k in 1999, get a theatrical movie and sell a grand total 65,342 with it's BD re-release?

The myth that Bebop was never popular in Japan is retarded. Every piece of evidence stands against it. It's just that it wasn't obsessed over like in America

Correction: you just have no standards and only care about mindless consumption.

Think i mistake it with Trigun?
I remember reading about it like 15 years ago
Maybe it was just a really popular myth, maybe it became popular years after, i don't know, i don't really follow Japan trends

OPM for example is one of THE most popular anime in the West, praised and talked about and recommended endlessly, but it doesn't have that level of popularity in Japan.

This is projection.

>this is projection
And this is bait.

So now you goalpost move to discount something currently airing because it also aired läßt season. I also don't like MAL because of how key members of them and ANN are using false stories and Photoshop to try and ruin multiple people's lives. Therefore I am avoiding the site. Like how I stopped buying Seagrams alcohol when I found out my money was inadvertently going towards child trafficking done by the owners of the company. I am not just parroting others or repeating memetic words. That's more along the lines of what you're doing by repeatedly saying the same thing or even outright wrong stuff.
>I only see 4
Scroll better, read better. There are 6.
>never the current airing or previous one.
Goalpost moving again, I bring up next season because this one is literally almost over.
>one piece and snk?
Did I stutter?
comicbook.com/anime/2018/12/03/top-10-best-selling-manga-of-2018/
>One Piece - 8,113,317
>My Hero Academia - 6,718,185
>Attack on Titan - 5,235,963
>Slam Dunk - 5,214,085
>Haikyu!! - 5,030,624
>Kingdom - 4,970,171
>The Seven Deadly Sins - 4,867,680
>The Promised Neverland - 4,246,955
>That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime - 3,460,066
>Tokyo Ghoul:re - 3,267,843

90% of everything is generic trash, dude
if you think most of any form of media is good, then that just indicates you're a retard with no standards who will consume whatever is placed in front of you

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Other dude was saying manga+anime+merch is what he was going off of and Pokémon has all of those, so if he wants to be pendantric then he needs to be consistent.

>but it doesn't have that level of popularity in Japan.
I'd say it does. And just like the West, they think S2 is a giant disappointment

I did not bait anywhere and you have no evidence to the contrary.

I didn't move any goalposts. I was talking about the current season. But even if you include Shield Hero, so what? That's only two shows.

>I also don't like MAL because
Because it's a meme.

>Scroll better, read better. There are 6.
Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou
Isekai Cheat Magician
Tsuujou Kougeki ga Zentai Kougeki de Ni-kai Kougeki no Okaasan wa Suki Desu ka?
Maou-sama, Retry!

What else is there?

>Goalpost moving again
What goalposts did I move by asking why you people always reference the upcoming season?

>Did I stutter?
The fuck are you going on about? I didn't even post that, nor have I talked about manga.

>90% of everything is generic trash, dude
According to literally a single person. Also, generic is not a valid word.

>if you think most of any form of media is good, then that just indicates you're a retard with no standards who will consume whatever is placed in front of you
You are saying that 90% of everything is bad for no reason other than that someone once said it. You simply repeat whatever you are told.

Then you would be wrong.

Autism: the post
Coming soon to a reddit screencap near you.

>Then you would be wrong.
Okay explain specifically how I am wrong

You are an NPC who is programmed to have this response whenever he sees a post that replies to multiple posts or has too many lines. This is a pavlovian reaction. You are programmed.

Because when they try to make one, it fails miserably. See Fairy gone.

I already told you. It's not the second coming of Christ in Japan like it is over here. It's popular, but not that popular.

Or maybe it goes like this:
>watch a show
Hmm I didn't like this anime
>watch a show
Hmm I didn't like this anime
>watch a show
Hmm I didn't like this anime
>watch a show
I liked this anime
Repeat this for about 500 shows + following discussions about shows you haven't watched yet = a good picture of the ratio good to bad shows per season.

>I already told you. It's not the second coming of Christ in Japan like it is over here
It's not second coming of Christ here either, especially with S2 right now

What is serious?

They've been making serious anime since the 70s if not the 60s but of course you're only aware of this one anime that happens to be currently airing.

Sturgeon's Law. That's where the 90% meme comes from. You repeat it because you see other people say it.

It's overwhelmingly one of the most popular shows in the West. It's at the very top of the list.

>you are programmed
Sounds like schizo garbage to mebe
You're autistic because you keep moving the goalpost or strawmanning anytime your wrong views get challenged by people who know what they're talking about
I already know what your response will be, you're that transparent in your neuroticism

No, you really are programmed. Whenever you see a post that responds to many posts or a post that has too many lines, you blurt out "a-autism!" You have no control over it. There's no thought put into it. It's a reflex.

>You're autistic because you keep moving the goalpost or strawmanning
Ok, show me where these things happened.

>anytime your wrong views get challenged by people who know what they're talking about
I know what I'm talking about, but you don't.

The "quality" of anime is simply a reflection of market demands. If you think that your demands aren't getting fulfilled it's either because you aren't searching hard enough or because you're part of a very small niche market

Okay and? How do you even quantify that it isn't just as popular (I assume you mean S1)? Did you go to Japanese MAL? It's not like it bombed either

Attack on Titan was top of the list in season 1 but that declined over time too until literally this recent season

Why are you so emotionally invested in the fantasy that anything that is popular in the West has to be equally popular in Japan?

>show me where those things happened
Just read what every single response to your posts says and you'll know. (But won't accept because of your neuroticism)
>I know what I'm talking about, but you don't
This thread only gives me reason to believe the contrary
I knew that would be your response before I even pressed send on my previous post.
And lastly: back to the neurotic containment board.

In other words you cannot show where things happened, nor can you prove that I have autism or that I'm neurotic. You can't prove anything.

>This thread only gives me reason to believe the contrary
It only seems that way to you because you don't know what you're talking about.

>I knew that would be your response before I even pressed send on my previous post.
Being able to guess or claiming to be able to guess someone's response is not an argument.

>And lastly: back to the neurotic containment board.
Show me where I have talked about conspiracies or occultic topics.

Managerialism. Production committees dictate what gets made, not the creators.

You completely just discounted my entire argument for why I don't give the site traffic and profit from my clicks (which is my opinion based on facts) and you just
>hurr durr meme kek
Come on.
>I wasn't talking about manga
Then what the fuck are you talking about previously in the thread where you were arguing what series are successful in Japan? What do you mean? Sales figures? Number of forum posts on 2ch?
>Criticizes others opinions by just replying with "meme" only to spit out the NPC meme
>says other people are pre-programmed to shitposts when the only person bothering to respond in multiple lines with links gets "kek maymay" responses and moves goalposts.
Truly this is 7/10 trolling or retardation. Can't tell yet

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They're the ones that invest most of the money so of course they want to have the final word

OP's entire premise is wrong (yes, serious anime still keeps getting made), and it's not like creators called all the shots before production committees were invented.

Yeah because it's all after-the-fact justifications. MAL is a meme here.

>Then what the fuck are you talking about previously in the thread where you were arguing what series are successful in Japan? What do you mean? Sales figures? Number of forum posts on 2ch?
I wasn't talking about manga so I have no idea what you are on about here.

>Criticizes others opinions by just replying with "meme" only to spit out the NPC meme
NPCs are real and I just pointed out the existence of one.

>says other people are pre-programmed to shitposts when the only person bothering to respond in multiple lines with links gets "kek maymay" responses and moves goalposts.
What are you talking about?

>Truly this is 7/10 trolling or retardation. Can't tell yet
It's neither.

Because if you look at manga sales and viewing numbers that is literally what happens for 70% (sometimes more depending on the year) of top series for Japan and the West.

Which is why earlier in the thread I posted the link that showed sales figures for series in both Japan and USA in 2018. Thwt way you have a full year to go off of. We're only halfway through 2019 and it is shaping up to be that way too.

>Being able to guess or claiming to be able to guess someone's response is not an argument
It's an argument that if anyone, you are "programmed", no?
>In other words you cannot show where things happened
>Just read what every single response to your posts says and you'll know
It's called reading comprehension, try it sometime.
Suprisingly, I don't have time/see the need to write an essay analyzing your fucky behaviour in this thread
>Show me where I have talked about conspiracies or occultic topics.
>back to the neurotic containment board
Reading comprehension. Also your claims of people being "programmed" show that you have a deep disconnect with the real world.

Hey random user here.

So I don't agree with the sentiment and there's quite a few animes I'll watch but most of the time if I see a popular anime coming out it's another crappy light novel adaptation. I get recommended shield hero a lot but honestly it wasn't that good.

I notice myself watching a lot more of the stuff in the 80s, 90s.
I guess what I'm trying to say is anything honestly that's a bit underrated for this year and past years that went past my radar? Something that's not Isekai or harem?

>animes
>begging for recs
OUT

Some anime are significantly more popular in the West just as some anime are significantly more popular in Japan.

>It's an argument that if anyone, you are "programmed", no?
How does it prove any such thing?

>It's called reading comprehension, try it sometime.
It's called burden of proof. You cannot produce any proof. Your claims are invalid.

>Reading comprehension.
It's called burden of proof. You cannot produce any proof. Your claims are invalid.

>Also your claims of people being "programmed" show that you have a deep disconnect with the real world.
How does acknowledgement of the fact that people are programmed mean that I'm disconnected from the real world?

Why can't you people just look at season charts and try out shows for yourselves?

>he thinks /x/ is full of conspiracy and occult threads
How new are you to this Indonesian synchronized swimming imageboard? Everyone knows /x/ first page is just with tulpa summoning, schizophrenia sufferers posting delusions, RP, and the occasional SCP thread #24,852
Wow you are that type of person that says lots and lots of words without saying literally anything. You accuse anyone making counterarguments as meming. That is all you say, every time.

Idk man., the only robotic-like person in this thread is you. Can't you just act sane?

>burden of proof
I have literally been the only one posting links and actual arguments based on facts. You have yet to do so

>try out shows for yourselves
Not everyone is a neet

Only kiddy anime and family shows are somewhat popular in Japan. In the west, very very few anime has some kind of popularity.

Because everytime I get recommended something from someone, it's Isekai shit. I don't want to waste time for 3-4 hours giving a few episodes a watch to realize that the plot leads to nothing, the characters have the brain size of a pea and the director/author just wanks over his wikipedia knowledge.

What's with Yea Forums and being autistic about giving actually answers?

>Otakus are the ones that are keeping this industry alive
Not anymore it seems

This whole discussion is going nowhere if you have such a clouded outlook on the world, I'm done trying to talk sense into you.
>hah, that proves you're an NPC! I win
It proves that I've got other, more fun things to waste my time on.

Learn to like isekai

Then who?

The days of inventive and original anime are far behind us user

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I've been to /x/ and it indeed has threads about those topics, and I wasn't even trying to come up with a complete listing of any and all topics the board covers.

>Wow you are that type of person that says lots and lots of words without saying literally anything.
Prove it.

>You accuse anyone making counterarguments as meming
When someone is memeing, I say that they are memeing. Why should I not do this?

>That is all you say, every time.
Why are you lying?

How am I robotic? How am I insane?

Do you think that because you posted some link to something somewhere in this thread it means that any and all claims you make must be correct and don't need any additional proof? If that's your criteria, I have also posted links in this thread. What now?

Who said anything about being a NEET?

How in the hell can you people have this much trouble with the isekai meme? It's a couple of shows a season. You could easily avoid them if you wanted to.

Like?

How do I have a clouded outlook?

According to people who don't watch anime.

My wife forces me to watch them

Give an inch to beggars, they take a mile. The rule exists because before it did Yea Forums was spammed with
>hey Yea Forums, I like this series recommend me something new!
Waste of everyone's time including the one who asked for recs in the first place. Thus before the rule was implemented people would spam Boku no Pico every time.

Like how on /an/ when people ask "what species of animal is this I found in my yard?" the response will always be brown recluse.

That is honestly the defenition of "meme response" that the autistic user is misunderstanding.

People that work and have responsibilities don't have the time to watch a hundred shows in a single month

Asking for recommendations is against the rules and can get you banned. There are literally thousands of pages where you can find 100s of good anime recommendations. Yea Forums is not one of those pages.
Also Yea Forums hates newfags because their only contribution is stupid posts like this.

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>prove it
Because you haven't engaged in arguments with anyone in this thread and accuse them of meming, and proceed to goalpost move and sperg out whenever someone provides solid stats and proof for a topic you brought up to begin with.

The proof is in this thread in every post you have made, since your posting style is easy to pick out.

We need better communities for those with patrician tastes. Otherwise the logical conclusion is that pandering to the lowest denominator gets the highest outcome.

I liked Isekai for the first bit. But now it just seems like the same generic high fantasy shit.
The main point of Isekai was to get a guy in the modern world used to another setting but it ends up in two ways

>Reincarnation
Usually the MC totally forgets about the real world after the first few episodes and the plot disregards them as someone coming from another world. They'll just be another OP godslayer that everyone gets their panties wet for.
>Physically jumping worlds
The MC doesn't want to go back and will usually just abuse technology to go ahead. They'll just be another OP godslayer that everyone gets their panties wet for.

The only isekai I really liked was the manga where a modern day chef becomes nobunaga's partner and the one where the surgeon when back to federal japan.

I understand. Thanks. I can understand that it does get annoying when spammed but once in a while rec thread would be nice.

I fail to see how that is a problem when the user asking for recommendations is posting a reply and not an OP

I'm posting multiple links to sales figures you mong. Readily available information on multiple websites, like box office records and BD sales.

Anime never had great story telling. It's just cartoons. Stop taking it seriously.

There aren't a hundred shows being released in a single month, and even just looking at charts would give you a basic idea of what's what.

>Because you haven't engaged in arguments with anyone in this thread
This is a blatant lie. Why are you lying?

>accuse them of meming
Because they are memeing.

>proceed to goalpost move
You keep saying this, but where's the proof?

>sperg out whenever someone provides solid stats and proof for a topic you brought up to begin with.
Where did this happen?

>The proof is in this thread in every post you have made, since your posting style is easy to pick out.
Show me the proof then.

You're a twat.

Because doing otherwise leads to false information like Bebop not being popular in Japan

Let me guess: you got triggered because I responded to too many posts at once. As expected of an NPC.

This thread was shit from the beginning but now it went complete trash

Bebop is not as popular in Japan as it is here.

Cowboy Bebop is a late night anime. Nobody knows it exists in Japan. Learn about anime industry, retard.

I'm not saying he is malicious I'm saying why these threads get pruned. Also it depends on what they want. The media is so broad. For instance, my favorite shows are low-key and atmospheric, like Natsume or Mushi-shi or Uchouteb or the original Kino's Journey. Someone else might not like those types of shows.

Thanks. I'll check them out.

Do you lack self-awareness? Whenever you engage someone you spam "meme" and haven't given actual proof to back your opinion in solid stats, nor engage anyone at all. You just dismiss them
When it was currently airing it was. I doubt Bebop is as popular in the West now as it was in the early 2000s

The reason these threads get pruned is because of the off-topic autistic shitflinging that has been going on for the past 100 posts.

When someone is memeing, I call them out for memeing. You are lying by claiming that this is all I have done. What does it say about you that you have to resort to lying?

>haven't given actual proof to back your opinion in solid stats
Haven't backed up what, exactly?

>nor engage anyone at all
Lying again. You are just admitting that you have lost.

>When it was currently airing it was.
Even if we say that it was, it was twenty years ago. Bebop is still very popular in the West.

I don't consider engaging in conversation to consist of someone stating their opinion or facts only to be responded with
>ur a meming NPC

You are lying again. Why don't you just give up?

It's more profitable to narrowcast fanservice shit. It's affected all of Japanese film for decades.

There are plenty you're just not looking for them.

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Again, OP's premise is wrong. What he is talking about is not happening. It's crazy how many people in an anime community do not seem to watch any anime.

This guy is fucking retarded. He also thinks cartoons and anime are different things.

They are different things, so why would someone be retarded for saying they are?

Traps

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Not a weeb

Kill yourself painfully.

Why should I kill myself for asking why someone would be retarded for correctly stating that anime and cartoons are not the same thing?

Blame chinks

For what? A problem that doesn't exist?

Nothing. Just blame chinks.

Anime literally means cartoons from Japan. Japs use that word for our cartoons too. You can see people saying Tom and Jerry is their favorite anime in Japan.

It literally means animation. It has no association with the word cartoon. They call cartoons animation because cartoons are animation. We use anime to refer to Japanese animation only. Only a legit weeb would use anime in place of animation. How many hundreds of times have we gone over this now? Why won't this bullshit ever stop? And what does this even have to do with the thread?

Because you don't watch anime.
Don't even try to pretend otherwise, you filth. You are the lowest, most despicable kind of Yea Forums poster.
A braindead shounen/isekaifag is still several times more respectable and his opinions hold more value than yours. Because no matter how garbage his taste might be, he actually watched anime. He makes up his own fucking mind about things.
You do not. All your ilk is capable of is endlessly regurgitating the same stock phrases, because they're all you remember.
You could actually watch anime. You could take a good look and see that there's plenty of anime to suit nearly all tastes out there. Certainly, plenty of it is shlock. But combing through it to find that one jewel, your own special show is what makes it exciting.
You're incapable of doing that. You fear having to make a choice for yourself. In your inabiity to decide, you stagnate and rot.
So ferment in the swamp of your spinelessness somewhere else. Yea Forums is not the mortuary for your taste.

Wisdom here.

fattest poster itt

Fairy Gone failed because its shit

Brainlet

You don't have to be a neet to have time to watch a 24 minutes episode

Commercials for LN's don't count, and how you consider that serious I will never know.

Those demographics are bottom feeders. Like the fish you keep in your fish tank because they eat the other fish's shit.

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Skip the OP/ED and you can watch 3 episodes in an hour

Psycho Pass was horrible because of how seriously it took itself. Awful animation, awful 2deep3u story. Why can't anime just be about tits and playful fun?

Vrains is pretty damn serious. Try it sometime.

This is just a guess but I would estimate that there has never been a person that has made a post like this that has already watched all of the good "serious" anime that has been made.
I'm still just a middling hobbyist only have 250ish shows watched and I still have a list a mile long of quality shows to watch.
I do agree that it feels like the way things are being made now there is almost no chance of a new classic being created but there is so goddamn much of the good stuff already made I find it almost impossible to believe that all but the most hardcore fans would ever be able to watch it all in the first place.

Anime is shit, yeah yeah, I get it. Why are you here?

I'm not Japanese, nonargument-san

Didn't stop Jaden Smith

>Brags about being a danger to peoples' children
>Claims that him and people like him are the commercial foundations of the genre

YIKES

Dororo's pretty damn serious.

Yeah but my friends didn't tell me about that, so it doesn't exist.

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Seriously shit, that is.

I think quality is just as big of a problem. Even if a good serious anime gets made the animation goes to shit by episode 6

It’s pretty damn shit though.

>but muh source material

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you're not watching the right shows, Shingeki no Kyojin's got some of the best storytelling and writing i've seen in a show in years recently.

I bet this isn't even a bait, but the actual state of Yea Forums.

Than god I read the manga and determined it's trash ahead of time

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>hurr it's bad because it's popular
Based retard, the series has reached its peak with the past 4 weeks being some of the best episodes this year'll have.
Thank god brainlet contrarians like you are in the minority then

Just another pleb filtered by grim reminder 2.0

Shinsekai Yori
Oregairu
Hyouka
Re:Zero
Made in Abyss
Steins;Gate
All from this decade, all S tier, all probably better than CB.
Anime is fine nowadays pic related

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>Nobody gets into anime because they want to see shit about little girls
you don't know me, nigga

That's ironic coming from you, dumb phoneposter. Request THREADS are banned. That's the rule. Requests themselves aren't banned, and responding to requests aren't banned.

What's discouraged is. "I just got into anime, recommend me an anime bros. Could be anything" and then spoonfeeding them something they could find in a google search.
Requests in non-request threads like "Speaking of the the topic of X, I really like Y more but would be down to try X if it were more like Y. Is there any X that are similar to Y?" have always been fine because it's on-topic, is relatively specific and probably can't be found as easily with a quick search.

>Yea Forums hates _____
Lurk at least two years before posting.

If you think it's so mature, what is the central theme of Shingeki no Kyoujin? I might give it a second chance.

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>6 good anime in 10 years
And that's being very generous with Re:zero and oregairu on the list.

>SnK fags

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I never said it's bad, shounentard. It's a decent action flick. Rather, it was one before it decided to shove its laughable story down our throats. if you unironically think SnK is mature, you're an infantile retard.
>4 weeks being some of the best episodes this year'll have
Literally the worst episodes of the series, not accounting for OVAs. Even the lackluster 5th part of JoJo blows this season out of the water.

Those were just six anime he mentioned as examples, he did not claim to be making an exhaustive list of everything from the last decade.

Fairy Gone is pretty serious. That doesn't make it good though.

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my mistake

There are many themes actually:
-the gray cruelty of war, there aren't good sides, in chapter 1 marleyan warriors (berthold,annie and reiner) destroy a city of innocent people and nearly doomed an entire island, while in chapter 100 eren and his team did the same to liberio (the ghetto where reiner and his friends came from) and killing thousands of innocent people too.
-the racism the eldians have to suffer for actually understandable reason (they where an opprosor race who can turn into monsters)
-surpass the sins commicted by the previous genration (the eldians to the actual eldians, grisha and eren, the reiss and historia) by became better person and give actually a future for the future generations (like eren is trying to do)
-the search of a freedom against the oppression of others (first the titans, later marley and the rest of the world)
And many others interesting themes you actually can only wish to see them in others mangas.

You should read the manga, you don't know how actually the story became deep at a certain point (the entire marley arc who will be animated in s4)

I'll say it: anime has consistently gotten better, and dramatically more so in the past decade. Even the forgettable seasonshows are much better than the forgettable 90s shows, which is where the difference in quality is most apparent.

>OPM that high
Holy shit

>Shounenfag the post

sensible chuckle

>antinatalism (an antagonist wants to sterilize his race because he believes their lives are filled with too much suffering and thinks it would be better not to have been born)
>overcoming race guilt
>the dangers of pessimism and nihilsm and how weak men can undermine a nation's existence, security and wellbeing
>historical revisionism (Grisha painting the Eldians as dindu nuffins, Marleyans painting Eldians as devils responsible for many genocides)
>be proud to have been born in the world

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Yeah, you’re lazy.

Now that it just not true. I would take any shit OVAs from 80s and 90s over what we have now.

Watch Egress on Netflix. It has no business being as good as it is.

Not saying everything is trash nowadays but you have to admit the standard for quality has dropped atleast for tv anime.

I think the main benefit is the sheer amount of anime we get now. I can often find at least 10 shows a season I want to watch, and often find that I like the majority of them.
Pre-2000 you wouldn't even get 10 new shows most seasons so you'd have to like several of the long running series or every one of the new ones to enjoy a similar amount of content.

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you are such a massive faggot my god

you can't be denying there were higher highs in the past though cmon

>Haven't backed up what, exactly?
not him, but for example you didn't give an argument about why MAL should be considered a meme, he already stated why he despise the site, but you just said it was all memeing without proof

i love the coyman beboop such serious

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5 decent / more than watchable shows in a season and 25 shit shows > 10 barely watchable shows in a season and 40 shit shows

People remember FMA and Death Note very well.

What they DON'T remember is your moeblob cartoons.

>beepboopfag only knows shakespeare episode
Read a book.

Because anime was good once upon a time user.

What is anpanman?

Still is

Shut up Digi.

Maybe it helps that I don't really like action series and the extra amount of shows makes it easier to avoid.
I'd rate JK Meshi above things like KLK for example and I'm sure with less anime airing I know which one would still exist. That extra choice is easily worth it to me.

Everyone below me is braindead,please be gentle with them

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The average IQ of a moeshitter in action

(you)

you talk about action flick when the series gets more grounded and non-monster focused as the manga goes on. maybe proofs that you cant judge a show by its first season

There's no money in it.

Name some from this last season

wan pan man, one punch man

>Why isn't serious anime made anymore?
Because you're not making it.

everything is ironic these days
people are soulless

>implying laurel and hardy was bad
Shit taste alert!

It was good but was obviously silly. I doubt anyone would want to reference it as an example of serious TV.
In anime form it'd be a dojikko and boke/tsukkomi type series.

The best show of this decade is way worse than the best show of the 90s.

And both are shit compared to the best shows of the early 00s

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this is just millennials v. zoomer the thread.

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Because manga are inferior to novels when it comes to story-telling, and LN are made for brain-dead teens who don't want actual story-telling. Since the vast majority of anime is derived from manga and LN, you have very few anime that attempt to tell a more serious story.

>animefag pretending that anime originals have good storytelling

Yeah, but Rozen Meiden is AOTC

cowboy bebop didnt really have an overarching stories... it was more a series of vignettes

actually bebop was like... space cowboy slice of life... so nothing has changed op.

If you want overarching stories watch LOGH or Hunter x Hunter, why do you need new anime if so much has already been made you haven´t watched?

>the amount of newfag in this thread
>the amount of newfags in flamewars with other newflags calling each other newflags
>only non-newfags are shonenonlyfags
hahaha holy shit

Literal teenagers

Well that is you i guess but i haven't watched anything this years anime outside of Mob Psycho and Sarazanmai.

It isn't. Anime industry is in state now what hollywood has been for two decades.

Anime is just a medium. There aren't any rules telling us what kind of thing it should or should not mediate - that only depends on what the author wants. It can be fun, it can be sad, it can be serious and it can be "deep" as well. Just like movies, books or even video games and other kinds of media can.
I find it cringe when someone tries to set arbitrary boundaries on what anime should be about only to feel better about his shit taste.

Same reason we get comedic goofy Superhero movies and not ones like Dark Knight. Because the ones that tried to be serious bombed and we only remember the good ones because they were the exception.

Being good not great is how people keep the lights on.

That's not what I said. Most original anime are meme shit like Darling in the Franxx, Gurren Lagan or Eva.

Why do I get the sense that people who say shit like this are the same people who say every new serious anime to come out recently is pretentious and overrated?

Hitoribocchi has been pretty comfy user.

>everyone who doesn't like things that I take extremely seriously must have the mind of a child
Let me guess, was Madoka-Magica a brilliant deconstruction of the magical girl genre?

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>Calling someone a weeb on Yea Forums
Okbuddyretard

There was a definite change in the series' general tone after Jupiter Jazz though.

I'm surprised no one post this article. Here's the reason why.

animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-06-09/director-goro-taniguchi-on-tv-anime-trends-i-wouldnt-be-allowed-to-make-something-like-code-geass-nowadays/.147482

>code gay-ass
>serious
it was so pompous that I kept forgetting it was supposed to be a mecha anime in between the fight scenes.

>"Don't put depressing elements in"

Holy shit, this is very bad for anime if true

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Madoka Magica was overrated moeshit

Cope

The central plot was very serious.

The story got cut a bit short but if we get season 2 of HnK you're going to see some suffering

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Yes, but it's literally 3 episodes of content and not the main focus of the show.

is right about Madoka. Anyway, anime could be fun or serious, that's not the point. What anime series should aspire to is to express a message in a honest way, like any other form of visual media. Anime is too closeted in this moe or overly-dramatic or overly-erotic or overly-expository way of making things that it's hard to take it seriously. Miyazaki once said that the people behind most of anime works simply don't know how real people express emotions or connect with each other, and that's a thing you can see in literally every anime series nowadays. Bebop performs ok in this field, and that's why is one of the few good anime series there are.

I find this much easier to agree with than your first post, and I mostly agree. I still think there are some good recent anime that portray lifelike/meaningful relationships between characters, but on the whole the industry is trending away from that.

>hinsekai Yori
shit
>Oregairu
shit
>Hyouka
mega shit
>Re:Zero
omega shit
>Made in Abyss
drops in animation quality cg hippo
>Steins;Gate
came out 9 years ago and hardly an animation award winner

anime is better than real life, fuck off miyazaki shill

It's even worse when you see this in the irl anime community.

Anime humor is very context dependent. It's funny because it's inappropriate. But if you spend a lot of time around otakus you see them mimicking this inappropriate behavior. They understand that it's funny, but they don't understand why. They're trapped in a cycle of being socially clueless and socializing based on bad or inappropriate social cues they think are amusing. Very depressing.

>REEEEE YOU DON'T WTACH ANIME
Let's start a bait thread!

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>I find this much easier to agree with than your first post
I should've clarified that I was not any previous poster, haha

By the way, here's the full commentary of Miyazaki I've referenced in my post. I believe these words are important to read for anyone who advocates for the good of this industry

>You see, whether you can draw like this or not, being able to think up this kind of design, it depends on whether or not you can say to yourself, ‘Oh, yeah, girls like this exist in real life.

>If you don’t spend time watching real people, you can’t do this, because you’ve never seen it.

>Some people spend their lives interested only in themselves.

>Almost all Japanese animation is produced with hardly any basis taken from observing real people, you know.

>It’s produced by humans who can’t stand looking at other humans.

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>Miyazaki once said
>thinking Miyazaki is anything other than a hack whose opinions should be ignored

Imagine how desperately contrarian you have to be to call Miyazaki a hack.

>most prolific anime a auteur is hack because nameless fag on the basketweaving forum said so

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Miyazaki is like Gene Roddenberry. He has some good ideas that he got a big dick about and now throws a tantrum when his colleagues don't share those ideas.

>everything sucks! That means I have good taste!

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>he likes hinsekai or Re: Zero
I mean I like Nichijou as well, but all the shows he listed are seriously bad

Name 3 good shows from the 80s and 90s.
Whenever anyone cites the 80s and 90s as being so great, they don't mention any of the shows, or it's some obvious shit like LoGH.

Re:Zero is not bad, you just don't like it because it's popular. Had that same show come out pre 2010 it would be considered a masterpiece.

what did he mean by this?

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> SEETHING
Miyazaki is a hack and a paedophile whose only accomplishment is making half-decent children's cartoons. No amount of whining will change that.

3 good shows from the 80s and 90s

>Golden Boy
>Those Who Hunt Elves
>3 x 3 Eyes

MAPPA is literally saving anime, not by creating masterpieces per se, but by adapting classic manga and other material most production commitees and studios would never greenlight.

Re:Zero does literally nothing new and is filled with A-1 picture trappings like bad backgrounds and mediocre animation. It does nothing that Eva didn't do better. That whole fucking whale arc, Subaru constantly evoking Shinji even though he doesn't even do anything to justify that self doubt etc. The only show I would actually consider pretentious.

>From all of anime creators there are, call pedo to the one who told girls all over the world to be adventurous and brave
Wew lad

>Do I fit in yet????
Embarrassing. There are no anime movies or anything else on the market that can even match him in artistry or animation

>It does nothing that Eva didn't do better.
and there it is. When in doubt, say that Eva is better. I'm done here.

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What's bad about Shinsekai Yori or Made in Abyss?

>Shinsekai Yori
writing convenience the show
>Made in Abyss?
I said that it' good but that the animation quality free falls midway also the pacing gets really bad as well

As sad as it sounds, It's useless for me because I appreciate what Eva does much more and that's why this show is useless to me. Same reason Gridman is useless to me. These concepts are not new to me anymore. Of course there is much more to be appreciated in Eva, for example the great directing or crisp cell animation

Based Kentucky Public school graduate

bump

Why do otaku ruin everything?

Really? You have 2 entire decades of anime and you pick Those Who Hunt Elves and 3x3 of all things?

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>thread still up
Kill yourselves Yea Forumsermin.

fpbp /thread

OP being a fag like clockwork.

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it's a matter of time where otaku will kill themselves for the better future.

Name one anime that could ever out top Cowboy Bebop?

Apocalypse 0

This is one of the best of the "Then and Now" comparisons I've seen.

>Fate plagiarized Cowboy Bebop

What exactly does that prove?

>Why isn't serious anime made anymore?
it is. stop making assumptions about a medium when you've only experienced it at a surface level

>exists to pander
see this is the thing that i really hate about you people. BOTH of those arbitrary styles of anime pander, it's just that the old stuff was pandering to your taste and the new stuff is pandering to people with different taste and you're mad about it.

The color palette makes it actually look unironic. Good range on the right while left is purposely shown shitty.

That's true user, but as long as they don't dumb it down for chinks and indians we are not getting shit directed toward the lowest common denominator.

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>fateshit

old = good
new = bad
thanks millennials!

I dont see the problem here

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Shall I compare thee to a faggot?

>compared to some isekai tripe and a highschool battle shonen
so's my nicotine-fueled liquid morning shit

Money reasons, afaik. Fanservice material sells the most. But that's what I heard. How badly did serious anime sell when it was in its prime?

>afaik
Neck yourself