Stands were a mistake. JoJo was better when it focused on character development

Stands were a mistake. JoJo was better when it focused on character development.

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OP: STaNdS ArE BaD!! HaMoN GoOD!

if they had fucked, could it all have been avoided?

Why tf do we just not look at the big picture. It's that JoJo is fucking amazing

All of JoJo has character development, just because they no longer beat each other directly doesn't mean they don't develop as characters.

Go back

>that format

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Hamon didn't have many things that it could do. Even Caesar being able to use bubbles really seemed to be Araki testing out the waters, then realizing it would be better to just make a new power that could do that kind of stuff.

>character development
Where? Where is it?
Araki is a hack.

Also, not bounding said power to raw physical/mental might so much, needing their user to be Kenshiro-tier super buff dudes or Tibetian monks to be effective, even weaklings like Fugo, Rohan or Daiya can use Stands effectively without any sort of training.

>character development
>in Hamon parts

>Stands were a mistake
You were a mistake

Nobody else reply to FP, he does this on as many boards as possible to bait (You)s

>Jonathan
>Dio
>Joseph
>Caesar
>Wamuu
>Stroheim

I am agree OP! Joojoo should been 30 years straight of RED OVERSDRIVE!

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Its amazing how such a poor and generic story like Jojo makes so much sucess just because of comedy and stands

>what is part 7?

how the fuck do two 1890s cowboys both have quick-access knowledge about the fucking binary system?

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Gyro is a royal executioner, not some American bum. The binary system was also invented in the 17th century, at least in some form.

>hamon continues on to part 3 and 4
>it turns into a boring system,and jojo ends on DiU

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The problem with stands is that they are pretty much the opposite of growth and progress since you are given a powerful ability for free. The usages of those abilities are so limited that new enemies have to be supplied at constant rate and there's only one major encounter with the last boss since the battles are all about finding the weakness of the stand and countering it.

Gyro works for the Neapolitan royal family, he has access to a good education and a reason to have one. Johnny doesn’t know any of this shot though, he was born in Kentucky.

>Tusk
>Echoes
>Stone Free
>Character development means getting new powers all the time

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Stands are better than Hamon but battle tendency is still the only good jojo part. The rest is (mostly) trash

Reminder that your opinions on Jojo are completely worthless if you only watch the anime, and this especially applies to Parts 1-2.

nigga you obviously havent read the manga

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They also have different weaknesses instead of just needing to stop them from breathing properly.

The bulk of DIO's character development came in parts 3 and 6.

The fights can be interesting depending on how they're played out, but I do agree it's kinda shit that any random wimp can have a good Stand.

Johnny was from a wealthy family though.

>but I do agree it's kinda shit that any random wimp can have a good Stand.

Time and time again they drill in that only certain people can get stands, and if you're weak enough your own stand will kill you.

I prefer the first two stories, the stand of the week format made it less enjoyable for me. I have not read SBR or the latest one. Does it ditch the format?

Hamon was designed as an interesting way to fight vampires, that's why it involves sunlight powers.

There's still stand of the week but it's now in service of a longer plot. SBR is closer to PB in terms of structure than say 3 or 4.

lmao this guy actually believes part 1 is good

I always found baffling how "If you're weak your Stand will kill you" is the excuse they go for to get Holly sick because apparently Coco Jumbo, the Survivor dude and a fucking Tree have more "fighting spirit" than Holly. Doesn't Fugo also loses control over Purple Haze? I forgot.

this hurt to read

Fpbp, hamontards are even bigger brainlets than people who TyPe LiKe ThIs.

>someone saw a bit of part 3 and pretends to be an expert by spouting retarded bullshit
this episode is usually the worst

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> JoJo was better
JoJo has always been garbage fueled by memes

Think of it this way 'Holly would rather hurt herself than someone else'.

Are you giving examples of characters without development?
Exposition =/= development

Imagine being such a brainlet that you don't realise that Part 2 turns hamon into Stands-Lite. Joseph and Caesar use Hamon Clacker and Bubbles as their special abilities similar to stand abilities. The same is seen with Lisa Lisa using her scarf and the three Pillar Men's 'Modes' are basically prototype Stand abilities.

>character developpment
>Part 1
Kek.
I wish the developpment between Dio and Jojo was more fleshed out. The manga does better job than the anime on that aspect.

No.
At least not always

I mean, in the way all the authors of long running manga are hacks.
What do you mean you didn't manage to finish your comic book story in 15, 20 or 30 years?
Fuck Jojo, HxH, Berserk, everything.

Jojo ends like 7 different times.

>powerfull ability for free
No, some stands aren't that powerfull.
>usages of these abilities are limited.
They are limited on the user's imagination like Hamon.
>There is only one major encounter with last boss.
>Kira
>Diavolo
>Valentine
>Pucci
>new enemies have to be supplied at constant rate
Seeing how Araki inovates and finds new ways of making encounters is really fun. It's one of the main appeal of the series.

Cringe and bluepilled

The difference is that Araki isn't in his deathbed like Togashi or is a complete, blatant hack like Miura. Araki rarely takes rests because he loves doing JoJo so much and has a clear vision of what he wants to do in the future, even if he doesn't plan out the details 100%.
The reason JoJo is a good manga is because of Araki's capability of evolving as an artist and a writer, being one of the few long-running mangas that become better with time and always feel fresh, instead of the usual opposite.

Part 5 is kinda boring dropped it after episode 20. Stands are cool though when it's not just straight up punching.

Did being the Spawn of Dio even enhance his character?

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>jojo
>character development
alternatively
>jojo
>having been good, ever

Kinda funny because the parts with more and better character development are part 4, 6 and 7, all of them with Stands.

Everybody: Kill yourself faggot.

Part 5 would've been so good wasn't for the fact that Gio starts looking and acting like a robot faking human behavior the moment he joins the gang.

>4
>character development
characters changing personality when convenient =/= character development

Cringe. This shit comment in youtube tier

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>Koichi and Jonny Joestar
developed with their stands
>kakyoin
was isolated as a child because of his stand and through the course of part 3 meets people like him
>the entire passion gang
learn to move past their past
have you only seen 3 episodes of stardust crusaders

>it's now in service of a longer plot
Yeah where is that main plot in part 8 again?

How about you read it and find out

>Araki inovates

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kill yourself unironically

what do you call the "character development" back in parts 1 and 2

Hamon is boring.

>Gentleman hero
>Maniacal villain
>Wacky trickster
>Noble Warrior
>Crazy Nazi.

>Character development
>Part 1
retard

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Later parts have more character development.

>Part 3
>character development
only Polnareff went through any sort of lasting changes.

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