Accel anime will air on July 12th.
There's an early screening on June 29th in TOHO cinema at Shinjuku with a special appearance by Rina Hidaka and Yurika Kubo. Tickets go on sale on June 22nd
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Next Kamachi releases:
June - Blood Sign 10 (already released)
July - New Testament - A Certain Magical Index 22: Rebirth/Reverse
August - Sorcery Hacker 1
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Scavenger designs fucking when?
naru gf when
Is [AnonsAlliance] picking this up?
Yaku will be the most popular Scavenger, it's written in the stars.
Maybe.
When We have
Handsfree Boba Tea Challenge Trend
on Kamachi chara?
She looks like Index (who is naturally sexual) but good.
Jesus Christ boys! I’m in love with Saten!
t. Typical LN fan
Could Misaki do literally anything to magicians?
/besides making them fall in love at first sight
Most magicians in this series are too old to date.
Magicians without a mind block yes.
What’s a mind block? What’s that?
He might be talking about drugs.
>first person view of Toumans fist incoming
We need a brand new type of monster/creature in this series. We’ve already got magicians, espers, demons, angels, saints and gods. I think it’s about time for some good old fashioned leprechauns to do some mingling in this series.
Pretty much.
you can't top gods, user
You can because they’re the most powerful beings until just recently and all they do is job and nerf themselves and none of them look cute.
>none of them look cute
I forgot,
why does the magic system in index feel like shit
So what’s Accel going to do as director of AC when a magician gets bored one day and decides to take over AC and curses him?
Because her memories were wiped so she can’t remember a lot of her past which can also mess with her magic powers.
>her
wat
We don’t really think Accel going going to be able to do jack protecting AC compared to somebody like Aleister. He’s pretty much just a pawn to sit as chairman until Aleister shows up again or else the city is screwed.
fug im retarded
She’s a lady.
Hopefully Accel will fix parameter list so that anybody who works hard can reach level five instead of just being stuck perpetually where they’re at because the city is too lazy to invest in the students but spends money on 36 billion dollar Rensa cyborgs.
Why didn’t a bunch of Rensa’s help invade England? That’s what I want to know.
He’s looking to see if anybody is watching so he can grab her butt.
Aleister wanted to be a show off so that he could brag to his grandchildren that he invaded England with no help.
I want to fuck this corpse
Why? Just because she’s a girl?
Yea Forums enjoys any and all girls.
>replying
Is Index only controversial because of the nun outfit? If she dressed like 98% of the magic cast you guys would like her right?
It's almost like AC had a blackout
That’s still me. That means you just replied to me, user. Do you have a favorite character?
Dont pretend to be me you dumb cunt
You just replied again. Still no favorite character?
>replying
Are you slow?
I said stop replying, retard
Can't fix that without money or technology, just like society, espers are always gonna have winners and losers. Imagine the necessary environment for an ability like Muginos meltdowner to flourish...That thing literally vaproizes shit at macro quantum level.
I think if the Kihara geniuses worked on programs that could draw harder to realize powers then it could work but Accel has nothing currently to beat the sad truth that hard work is only half of it.
Dicking hawawa until she's into hero cock
see
Don't tell us what to do.
I want to tie Hawawa’s sleeves together
You know how hard kids work? There’d be a lot more than FIVE level fives in the ENTIRE city.
This is heretic, Yuriko is for the Touma that's her senpai
Reverse will be Touma reverse aging and getting subsequently stalked by Awakin
All this discussion about how accelerator will fix ac and make it the perfect city state and here I am wondering how hard accelerator will fuck it up and have to get knocked down a peg.
Kamachi has already shown that he isn't naive enough to think having a well intended national representative will make a perfectly well functioning city as the British Halloween arc and nt10 seems to show national representatives will readily make compromises to protect the people and national interests.
Due to the international laws ac gas broken accelerator's going to have to continue to cover up all the illegal shit ac has done and is going to be stuck in bed with noukan and the other kiharas to keep a handle of the scientific union. He'll have to continue to hide the parameter list and might go after Hamazura just to keep civil or international war from breaking out. Worst case scenario being having to choose between turning over the illegal clones to prevent all out war.
Also how old is accelerator? 15? Super smart, super powerful and super loaded with responsibilies all at the age of 15?. This guy is starting to sound more and more like a Gary stu.
I think everyone is wrong and it's gonna be HC and Noukan running things until he gets older with Accel just having an input and helping with physical things
Accelerator will make AC great again with subsidized lolis and legalizing imouto marriage
In hindsight, brexit wasn't that good.
>legalizing imouto marriage
It would be pretty boring seeing accelerator fix everything and do everything right in such a way that the biggest problems of the science side that have been around since OT3 are just written off.
Then again it would also be boring seeing accelerator stories become all political and shit. Not sure this leader of ac plot point was a good idea, I thought it was pretty bad when accelerator shutdown the darkside of ac in ww3 with a single threat as it limited the kind of science side stories available post NT for Accelerator and to a lesser extent Hamazura.
Man Railgun manga is going to be so fucked when it gets into NT territory.
Railgun manga is already boring a fuck so who cares? They either need to focus on Kimi or stick to SoL
I think Railgun will probably end before the end of NT, especially if Kamachi takes Mikoto and Touma away from the city for an extended period of time
Really the Railgun manga can die for all I care, I enjoyed the sisters arc well enough but the focus on Misaki there after kinda hurt the stories and strong ideas later arcs had. Kongous stuff and frendas stuff being the better character content to come from dream ranker and daihasesai and It sucks that they are benched because railgun is a misaka manga first and foremost.
That and I'm also fucking sick of Tokiwadai.
Misaki was literally the only thing keeping it together for so long though. I'm just tired of Mikoto because none of whats happening can have any consequence on her due to the timeline. We need focus on a character that can actually progress, which is why everyone hopped on AB.
>fucking sick of Tokiwadai
If there has to be another science side spin off, please let it be a different school. Or better yet no school at all. I would love to see a short spin off about skill outs or the poor bastards that have to fix this damn city.
>because none of whats happening can have any consequence on her due to the timeline.
This has always been the case, it's never been any different, and that didn't stop most of railgun from being great. Every arc aside from the sister's arc was literally pooped out and was never referenced ever in the novels, outside of therestina being mentioned in NT4(which isn't even from the fucking Manga).
I was hoping Railgun might show more of the dark side with the Kiharas but it seems that's only for the LNs. I'm also sick of Tokiwadai.
Therestina was mentioned in WW3, also Daihaiseisai was referenced in NT22
>Curse meme
Cool directions, cursed can’t do shut against Accel since they’re established to be directional
Fuck she's cute.
>most
Level upper was alright because Saten, Uiharu, and Kuroko could shoulder some of the weight as they were largely blank slates. Mikoto also had the benefit of being a largely different character since it was set before the novels, so she had free reign to develop.
Sisters are was actually legit good with Mikoto's POV. ITEM helped but it was mostly Mikoto.
Festival arc was carried largely by Misaki, Kongou/Wannai/Maaya, and Gunha rapping it up. Mikoto didnt really develop at all, because she cant since its after Sister's arc.
It fell apart after that with the exception of the Frenda miniarc.
Do you see the problem? Only 1 arc could be carried by Mikoto, and thats because it was a literal retelling of an arc from her PoV, which let us see the emotional strain on her. The arc before that had a cast to lift it up and had a chance for Mikoto to develop since it was pre-Sisters arc. The arc after that was held almost entirely by other ojou characters because Mikoto could not develop in a way that would conflict with later events. But the crux of the situation is that Saten, Uiharu, and Kuroko's conflicts are sort of resolved already. Kongou and co. are done. Misaki is regulated to AB. Gunha is a shonen protag that gets his cool factor from hardly being around. You also lose the romcom/SoL kamikoto moments because of Touma's tight schedule. Unless they manage to make more interesting characters like Kimi, it has no where to go. Mikoto is largely out of options and her friends are by and large resolved already. The one thing I could think of would be for Mikoto to pal around/be a good onee-san to the few clones in AC. Still, that only works because her interaction with the clones have been severely lacking in the main story and it wouldnt fuck with future events.
tl;dr: Mikoto has no way to develop and Railgun has been held up largely by the supporting cast for the majority of the story.
Now I wonder what Kizuna Ai will look like in this artstyle. Her concept itself is hot (barely clothed slut with hotpants) but naturally the mangaka fails at capitalizing her features just like Scavengers.
>since it was set before the novels
Or atleast was set a little bit before/during OT1 anyway
Retard
>Gunha rapping it up
Did he teach Accel?
You could also say that she only got that development in the sister's arc because it's an Index arc. Kamachi pretty much has dibs on the big moments for all relevant characters which is why side characters are better suited for spinoffs
Lets be honest, Mikoto's development in Level Upper was mostly just kamikoto teases as well. Touma played a huge factor in knocking her pride down a peg and him not being around definitely removes a lot of options. If his schedule wasnt so fucked there could atleast be more ship teasing as a breather for serious arcs/Saten and co teasing Mikoto.
>accelerator dismantled the darkside and it limited stories in NT
Did you just forget all the dark side shenanigans in NT?
>Gunha rapping it up
AC: City of Rap with the HNIC Accelerator.
Honestly I think this is the exact reason why I kind of fell out of being a Mikoto/KamiKotofag. It started off really strong and then it all sort of petered out. Mikoto stagnated hard until she got the AAA and in the manga a lot of what made her a vibrant character got washed away. She needs to be thrown off her game by other characters to shine. I thought Misaki would take over for that in the Railgun manga since Touma was unavailable, but as you said, it looks like she's going to be pushed to AB instead. At least she's there for her in the novels, they really are a good dynamic. Not even a MisaMisa fag, but I can see why its gaining momentum. Its similar to the interactions she and Touma had in the beginning of the Railgun manga, but with a few twists.
Railgun NT featuring Mikoto and Misaki's secret toku adventures when?
>in the manga a lot of what made her a vibrant character got washed away
I think that's because Fuyukawa is trying to emulate Nagaispace Railgun too much. I remember her personality being more rough and bratty but now the manga has also turned into pointless slut brigade adventures.
Thats why her interactions with Misaki are gold. Her smearing chocolate on Misaki's face felt like something early Railgun manga Mikoto would do
>It fell apart after that with the exception of the Frenda miniarc
I really do not agree with this. Despite being weaker than previous arcs I still enjoyed Dream Ranker a lot, and for me has some great moments.
Maybe "fell apart" was a bit harsh, but the point it it started to drop. And again, its another arc carried almost entirely by the supporting cast and not Mikoto. The point is, Mikoto is incapable of carrying the manga due to the fact that she cant develop past a certain point. Compound this with her weird powerlevel rank and that she has to be ignorant of magic, and you are left with not much to work with.
>Sorcery Hacker
Is this a new series? How many concurrent LN/manga is he doing now?
I think it's not solely due to her not being able to develop but Fuyukawa seemingly handling her with kid gloves. If you compare it with how ballsy Kamachi makes her in his SSes, her adventures are just far more entertaining even if she doesn't develop much. Railgun can be fun with just Mikoto if you put her in more absurd bullshit adventures.
Fair enough
Yes, it's illustrated by the Accel World artist. Blood Sign and Boo Boo ended so he's actually doing one less than usual right now
People wouldn't be so pessimistic about Railgun with a proper pace. We used to get like 30-40 pages, now if we are lucky we get 20 - 25, a few months not even that.Things takes too long so people got sick and tired of it.
But SS3 is also being carried by its side characters.
What side characters? Sakibasu doesn't do anything but get dragged around. Most of the time it's Mikoto doing something.
Literally everyone except mikoto. What has mikoto really done? Run around and hit things, none of the interesting aspects of the story are thanks to mikoto, its all the side characters and antagonists that make it interesting. Replace mikoto with literally any other character and the story is just as interesting, replace riot, sakibasu, etc and its not the same at all.
So, this was your game all along
Truth hurts bitch. All mikoto did was get angry her friends are in danger for the 20th time and go stop the bad guys. No one cares, we've seen it all before, sure mikoto and co. walking into a shop smelling of formaldehyde and fighting an enemy that changes shape and throws invisible attacks at you is cool, but why is it cool? Not because its mikoto, thats all riot carrying it. Sure, the scenes of kuroko going against the staravia are alright, but is mikoto really needed there? Misaki taking care of her clique is something we've seen with iruka and junko, but at least its not as tired as "mikoto fights the bad guys because theyre bad" and had some different interactions, sending her away from herself to let her bloom. The best scenes so far were all carried by the two anti skill members and some support from uiharu, again nothing mikoto particularly needed to be there for. Though granted, perhaps you could argue the anti skill member wouldnt seem as cool if he was making some other weaker opponent job.
>its another arc carried almost entirely by the supporting cast and not Mikoto
Well, different points of view. I enjoyed her a lot during DR, and that arc and its ending really made me like Mikoto more as a character
>decides to take over AC and curses him
They will face the wrath of AC's goddess. They'll drop dead after Will-chan forcefully remove their souls out of their physical bodies. It is a scaled up version of what happened to Coronzon and her host body.
>We don’t really think Accel going going to be able to do jack protecting AC compared to somebody like Aleister.
Aleister did not leave AC to Accel alone. Aleister is aware that Accel is backed by an entity more powerful and sinister than him.
>Also how old is accelerator? 15? Super smart, super powerful and super loaded with responsibilies all at the age of 15?.
Don't worry! Will-chan will be the one telling him what to say and do. Her terminals are not just playing around and doing nothing. They are acquiring military intelligence all around the world in anticipation for something like this to happen. She will send a Misaka clone representative to all concerned parties to negotiate. She will trade important information (includes AC's technologies) to kind people and blackmail bitches and jerks.
But will it be better than the shitshow that Index III was?
are you retarded
Way to play it all down homie. Now let's do one for Touma and how he gets angry about somebody being in danger for the thousandth time and go stop the bad guys, gives a speech and punches them then cries about his neverending misfortune and goes home to get bitten. We've seen it all before.
Maybe do one for Accel while you're at it, or do you only do it for characters you personally dislike and then try and argue against you being a hypocrite saying it's not the same? Go ahead. Prove me right.
The only entity in this series more powerful than Accel is probably Rensa.
Hey, can you change up the anime? Its starting to get stale. Thanks.
Touma giving a speech at least requires him to be there to help develop the other characters though. Neither sakibasu nor riot got their development from mikotos involvement, its the same problem kuroko had with the ninja. Riot got her development with the anti skill member and sakibasu got it with kuroko. Yes you can argue that touma running through ww3 to punch someone isnt much different from his usual fare, but at least you can point out why it must be him (IB), and how he develops other characters (Accel, Fiamma, etc). Mikoto doesnt have this.
You mean add a bunch of hyper fun filler?
What?
No no, I mean change up the anime you're using to smug with.
Can you rationalize why Kuroko is still one of the most popular characters in the series after all this time? What about her character makes her so desirable to fans?
Index 3's problem was that it covered the shitty novels. The spinoffs are what's actually entertaining and keeping people interested. AB especially.
MP is a dumb doo doo brain
BASED
Got em
How will MP ever recover
The absolute state of Mormons
His speech+punch shit making villains change their ways is just another problem with his character and got old ages ago. Some people are just still clinging to the gender equality meme.
I’m attracted to Saten!
Nice
That’s true
All of us are. You’re not special.
>but at least you can point out why it must be him (IB), and how he develops other characters (Accel, Fiamma, etc).
That actually makes him worse.
I forgot.
>We never got an illustration of the Black Maw in action
God DAMMIT
I bet MP eats toast sandwiches
Ding-dong diddly based.
I bet MP eats cow poo
Thats true
I don't think the punch speech thing has even directly worked since Birdway.
Cool opinion, but thats what you asked for. Touma is central to many plots because he is central to aleisters plan and to the world of magic in general. Kamachi has him affect other characters to try to make him have more than one reason to be tied into the plot, whether or not you like it these are facts, mikoto however did not have the same tie ins to this story. Riot and Sakibasu developed without her influence, it wasnt a plot only mikoto could be involved in and she feels superfluous as a result. All she did was play the part of the muscle, you could have easily made the riot showdown be with kuroko and given her a tactical battle that apparently fuyukawa was dying for her to have when he forced her to fight a ninja that she had zero ties to.
It half worked on kamisato
Hey, if you can only enjoy a story if the protagonist is some kind of a chosen one like in old-school Bioware RPGs, it's your business. Just don't force it one me and no, Mikoto doesn't feel "superfluous" to me at all.
>I-it's totally fine for the main character to have no reasons to be there and have no influence on the other characters in their story, stop bullying me!
Do you miss them?
Using a girl as a club to beat other girls sounds pretty equality to me.
I take it from this comment that you're one of the three anons who actually enjoyed kuroko's pointless fight with the ninja?
He hasn't done this in like 5 years or more.
Of course mikoto doesnt feel superfluous to you, you're one of the waifufags who are the main reason she was thrown in for. So they would actually read it and buy the BDs. The book would have been better if it focused mostly on the new characters who are getting their development sure, but it wouldnt sell if it was all nobodies, so they need pretty window dressing like mikoto to bait you guys in.
Mikoto is definitely superfluous in a lot of her appearances but I'd argue Hamazura is possibly even more.
*thrown in it for
Mikoto has been an influence on Touma, the main character you're defending, among others currently around her and has an active subplot that's tied into the main one. It's fine if you don't like it, but half the stuff you've said isn't even accurate. Don't go against canon because of personal bias or this isnt going to go far when it comes to discussions.
This, new people reading Railgun like Dream Ranker a lot since they didnt had to wait months waiting for new chapters
It's ironic that Yuiitsu cutting off his hand was the only reason it worked. He saw Touma as a dirty harem acceptor, and then as a monster that was spewing bullshit after the polygons fucked his day up.
More like 1 month in actual Raildex time.
Thanks for outing yourself as a shitposter.
Naked apron edit when?
Touma is in SS3? First I've heard of it.
You mean Misaki.
You could just concede or not reply you know.
>Mikoto is definitely superfluous in a lot of her appearances
No she isn't and I'm saying this as someone who's completely neutral to her.
Misaki is more intrinsically tied to the plot and isnt on the cover of RAILGUN SS3
Id ask you to stop playing dumb, but Im sure you're not. Read your second sentence. At that point alone you stopped limiting it to just the SS and manga.
And you could dilate instead of shitposting about a fictional character that angers you so much.
Shh dont mention Hamazura user, then you'll really rile them up, I've learned this the hard way
>talk about SS3
>user says that touma does x thing as well and to prove it wrong
>obviously need to use examples from outside of ss3 for touma
>this suddenly means that we're talking about outside of ss3 for mikoto
No, you are the dumbass here who cant follow a conversation. Stay in the corner if you're not going to listen to the whole thing.
She's just there for MisaMisa fanservice and leeching off of Biri to promote and expose her more for waifufags.
>pushing a narrative
I see based Hmazura left his mark in retard's heads
Mikoto is only there for waifufags as well though
The original topic was Railgun manga you retarded aspie.
How are you going to bait people into reading SS3 for misaki if she's not on the cover? Even if we assume the railgun name alone makes people pick it up expecting misaki when she wasnt in either of the other books, she's still more tied to the plot than mikoto was.
>MC of the story is only there for waifufags I swear!!!
You sound upset.
No, it wasnt.
The only thing she's tied to is Mikoto. As a support character.
>look mom i said it again
What happened to his body?
Yes thats literally the point. The MC of the story who has not influenced any characters and was not intrinsically tied to the story is used to bait people in as you can advertise "this is a story about mikoto" even if all it does is follow her and not develop her or the like.
It is in Maria's apartment.
Now check the post it was replied to, then the one before it. It's like it's your first day here. It might actually be.
>the only character misaki was involved with was mikoto
Speedreader please
Well, the Railgun discussion was nice while it lasted, looks like the Mikoto haters and Mikoto waifu fags are here to try to go at each others throats for the millionth time and shit up everything
That's pretty much what she is. Her sidekick and comedy buddy.
Ah yes, the "n-newfag!" argument, I'm sure that'll save you.
>If you compare it with how ballsy Kamachi makes her in his SSes,
>But SS3 is also...
But the topic was TOTALLY not SS3 because its not convenient for you.
>was not intrinsically tied to the story
She was though.
Let me ask you. If you don't like all her side stories and you know she'll be a major player in all of them, why read them? It can't be because of the side characters when you're THIS upset about it all every time. Why torture yourself?
I want to fondle this penguin
Cool story bro
Did you guys think Mikoto was a cuter girl in season one or season two of Railgun because most of us here assume she’s cuter in season two. I’m just asking because I know there’s probably at least one person who likes season one Mikoto more because she was blush moe over pajamas instead of Touma and I know how we all love Mikoto only when she’s lust moe over Touma.
>Mikoto waifu fags
You don't have to be a mikotofag to know that her place in most stories is well-defined.
It's not. Check the original post and the few after it and stop trying to exclude them.
Pretty much.
Literally read my posts dumbass. The whole thing and not just the parts that trigger you.
Shut up nerds
Truth hurts bitch
Her eyes are well defined but I think a lot of us wish she had blue eyes. We want blue eyes Mikoto.
Hey! We’re not nerds!
All I'm getting from your posts is complaining and twisting facts to suit your narrative.
>check the original post
>it is *literally impossible* for a conversation to ever ever leave its original bounds. The fact that someone made a comment about her role in the side stories and then someone followed up and continued discussing the side stories is irrelevant, that conversation is CLEARLY not about the side stories at all.
I'm not going to bother replying if all you have is goalpost moving. I'll take that as you not having any actual arguments left if you're just wasting my time pretending you dont have reading comprehension issues on an anonymous image board.
Clearly has a total hate boner for her
Then why read HER sidestories?
I said not just the parts that trigger you. I made several positive points but as usual, dumbass mikotofags cant do anything but see things they dont like and bawl their eyes out.
Season 2 for the Break the cutey moments
Maybe he needs more material to shitpost. An admirable effort actually.
Why is Mikoto booty bumping Touma?
The alpha woman is marking her territory
>Well-defined
If it weren't for the AAA she'd have lost relevance to the story a long time ago.
and said AAA being found by complete dumb luck
Shows that they have sexual interactions
She's rubbing her butt on him to assert dominance
Yeah. So?
You don't seem to know what moving goalpost means. Not to mention it's also possible for a conversation to go back to what it was about originally. I gave you an example of something that wasn't related to the SS just as you did. You're the one that sperged about it and steered the conversation to where it is now.
Monkey's rub butts in order to initiate mating. Mikoto, or rather Denki Kong, is attempting to court Touma.
Touma is an ape himself so that means he's doing the same.
>Yes, I dont have any actual arguments left and will continue moving the goalpost so I can pretend I won
Cool.
It's so easy yo show your true colors when you're acting out on emotion like a 10yo. Truly pathetic.
Mikoto isnt half as cancer as her fans are.
But apes prefer asses, Touma is a cowtitsfag
Yeah, found it much more enjoyable in a re read because you don't have to suffer the shitty pace
I know you call your husband an ape in bed when he is pounding your tight cunny Kuroko but that doesn't mean he is an actual ape.
So you're really having this hard a time finding anything in my posts that doesnt cause you to bawl your eyes out? Pathetic, is it too hard to see anything through the tears? Is that the problem? I'll give you a hint; when someone says that a story is carried by X, thats a positive thing, when someone says "the best scene was..." thats a positive thing, when someone mentions that a scene is cool, thats a positive thing. If you slow down and actually read posts before crying about how someone DARED say something so scandalous as "mikoto isnt really tied to the plot", bursting into tears that someone thinks your waifu's presentation in the story is anything short of perfect you would have been able to figure this out without having your nose rubbed in it.
I don't know. The cancer in these threads don't seem to be coming only from one side. Right now it's the'' fucking mikotofags'' guy that's having a tantrum and resorting to insults when people are arguing with him. Doesn't matter who's right or wrong. That's just childish.
Do we like Index with Star Wars buns better than Index with straight hair?
>Look mom, I said it again!!
I like the buns.
I disliked Daihaseisai when it released but it became my favourite Railgun arc on a reread
What about level upper?
I was perfectly civil for a good 10 posts or so before their idiocy went too far thank you very much. If you cant handle being called a dumbass when you act like a dumbass you probably shouldnt be here.
>Dream Ranker
Even doing a re-read of it I find it to be fucking awful and boring.
The only dumbasses I see in the thread are the anons not praising Mikoto for saving Touma with the AAA a while back.
Deepest lore
Do another one
And her fans aren't half as cancer as her haters are.
We all do.
She only has haters because she’s independent and can look after herself.
And neutral fags arent cancer at all because they see how both of you are obnoxious retards that cant let shit go
I'm about to fap though
>you
I'm just a bystander.
I love Mikoto
Are you retarded
>is MP retarded?
Yes?
Yeah a bystander who thinks that any mildly critical opinion on mikoto is automatically cancer. Sure.
So am I.
Here's a quick one. Its not the best but my dick is too hard to think straight and I need release
And the retard who owes his entire knowledge of storytelling to shitty CRPGs doesn't so you gotta stop posting.
>is MP retarded?
She was shitposting about how levels meant nothing and now is shitposting about the parameter list. Not only is she retarded but is also a hypocrite.
Your """criticism""" is awfully subjective and biased. "Me only like special heroes" is hardly an insightful sentiment, unfortunately.
On the contrary, you have a much harder time finding any good piece of writing where the MC isn't connected to the conflict personally and doesn't develop any of the other characters they interact with than ones that do, but please, keep embarrassing yourself trying to pretend otherwise.
He and a lot of others in these threads don't know the meaning of subjective and objective.
I re-read Dream Ranker early this year and it's the worst finished arc so far, but Jailbreaker is even worse right now.
You're having a really really hard time sticking to one topic arent you? First it was "touma does this too, so its ok for mikoto" then it was "only shit stories have their main characters involved in the conflict" and now its "its just your opinion man", and the best part is, even if someone whole heartedly agreed with you it STILL would be irrelevant to the fact that you're cancer. You just couldnt let a single bad comment about your dear wife stand. You just couldnt handle it. If its such a biased and subjective opinion why reply? Why try to disprove it? Why would you then after failing to disprove it finally change tacks and say "y-yeah well who cares only at the very end?" If you didnt care why reply? Because someone dared to say something vaguely negative about your wife apparently. Casual reminder that literally your entire tantrum started with me only saying that the SS was carried by the side characters. What a scandalous and edgy opinion.
Mikoto and Saiai and kaiju battle were the best parts of Dream Ranker for me.
You were arguing with me before. I got tired of your shit. I'm just replying to let you know it's a different person that's currently entertaining your autism.
I dont see how its particularly relevant whether one or multiple people cant handle hot opinions.
>memes about britbong food are real
These foods are more then a dark matter, they are dark legacies that were created by bland demons
Your problem is that you're not playing it off as an opinion.
Oh, but people have been handling your amusing attempts at shitposting alright. You, however, I'm not so sure, seeing how soon you gave up on your "perfectly civil" disguise.
It's a pretty bland country in general
I really love Mikoto
>what is losing patience with a dumbass
Not everything is a conspiracy. Its not a "disguise" to talk to someone normally, notice they're a drooling retard and then get fed up with them. But sure, you can walk away thinking you handled this conversation well if it makes you feel better.
>MC isn't connected to the conflict personally and doesn't develop any of the other characters they interact with
Good thing we aren't discussing anything like that in this thread, ain't it chum?
But we are. We're discussing SS3 and how its carried by the side characters.
Fuckkng hell. How are you this worked up about a fictional character? You'd almost think you're transitioning at the moment with how hurt you actually are that someone dared to verbally disagreed with you.
Mad much?
>notice they're a drooling retard
Oh yes, they're drooling retards for even daring to disagree with your majestic intelligence and present their own point of view as if it is of any substance or importance compared to yours. I can't believe these mikotofags refused to kiss your boots in obedience. Surely they aren't aware that your superior mind-bending will is only to be worshipped, not defied.
>how are you this worked up about a fictional character
Read my post again mikotofag. SLOWLY. I have very mild feelings about mikoto. Very mild. Its dumbfucks like you that are the real problem. You cant discuss a character normally because the moment you say anything but shining praise everyone starts yelling and crying. No one disagreed, they said it didnt apply because touma does it too. I corrected them. Then they said it doesnt happen in most stories. I corrected them. Then they finally changed to saying it doesnt matter and I told them they have shit taste and should try not crying so hard next time.
Not only is he a true intellectual, but he is also a fucking waifu connoisseur.
Because its not much of a system, it tries to act like it has rules but anyone can do anything with everything, its all just about whatever or not the author wants it to be. Not a good system at all if you can even call it that.
>I feel like misaki is getting dragged along for the ride and doesnt need to be here
Normal discussion ensues
>I feel like Nics Everblind got a lot of focus for how small his role was
Normal discussion ensues
>I feel like Kuroko wasnt the best choice for a match up with the ninja girl
Normal discussion ensues
>I feel like misaka doesnt get tied to the plot in this spot very well
What the fuck did you just say about my waifu you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of Academy City special forces...
Every time
holy shit, this retard is still going on
Kuroko will replace index as the side character of choice after NTR
It’s amazing how much hotter Index is outside of her shitty nun habit
Based
I'd say I generally dislike misutilisation of characters in the series regardless of who they are. I actually like a lot of characters in the series, Misaka, Accelerator, Touma, Hamazura, Mugino and Index.
Problem is a lot of them are very poorly utilised, with Touma and Hamazura being the exceptions with one being designed for a long running series and one as a small doses character (I admit NT/OT20 hamazura was bad though, he should have showed up in NT/OT21 did his thing and went onto NT/OT22, and Touma has several bad hits as well).
Characters like Misaka lack a clear role or position in certain events and when Kamachi tries to forcibly give those characters moments it hurts the arc as a whole. Easy fix would be to make the books longer and go into more detail about what each characters deal would be.
But that would make certain arcs drag and with the manga it would slow down the pace of railgun even more.
Misaka is the outlier in this case and has gotten continous special treatment and many chances to make an impact. The matter of the fact is that she only really worked best in a experimental pov retelling of an arc where she was always a supporting character.
Because that's her role and what she was designed for. I'd say she was utilised at her best in OT1 as a character that only had two scenes that played very well to her strengths. And OT in general seemed to do a good job treating her as what she was always designed to be, a supporting character.
She's still that in NT but it's becoming clear even in the supporting role that she's failing to find a place in many arcs. Because she's not a supporting character or a protagonist or even a background character anymore. She's her own beast that became too big, I'd say she's just a poster girl now and barley even a character at this point.
I don't even know what to call her anymore, she's this meta archetype that I haven't seen in any other series.
All of this shit being on kamachi and having an overly large cast and cutting corners for some characters as well as writing without much direction or focus.
I like how experimental the series is and since NT became more focused I think the weaknesses of kamachis general writing and certain characters has started to become more apparent.
Misutilizing characters isnt a weakness intrinsic to large casts. You cant point at the large cast and say "this is why we see x y or z character pushed into arcs they feel like they shouldnt really be in", if anything thats the opposite of what should be intrinsic to a large cast.
It does highlight when you misuse them though, because in smaller casts the audience will just roll with it more often, but in larger casts the audience is more likely to say "why are we spending so much time on hamazura in the coronzon arc while stiyl was ignored"
I think that's a pretty silly question to ask. If Coronzon just up and died then it'd be weird but Stiyl's probably gonna have a run in with Aleister/Coronzon at some point
Now that you mention it, it would have been pretty cool to see Stiyl take the role Hamazura did of grappling with the idea of working with a demon and seeing some good in her. And have been a lot more realistic for stiyl while it felt like hamazura was blindly hoping she was a good guy
He might, but he's one of the characters with the closest relationships to coronzon/lola. His lack of presence in the arc was really odd. Who cares if we find out later, seeing elizard aleister and so on react to the archbishop being a demon while not seeing the main person we saw working alongside her all the time doing so is a huge missed opportunity.
I don't think Stiyl would be very surprised after WW3, he already hates her guts. Alas, the arc was about the 3 MCs reuniting so Stiyl had no chance of a big role
That's like saying that maybe we'll see Mikoto taking an active role in figuring out what the Third Season of clones was all about. It wouldnt change that her scene in NT3 was overall not great.
There was nothing wrong with Stiyl doing his job in NT20 though
Stiyl is going to have a big role when he dips Index and kisses her simultaneously making all LN fans jealous because Touma is ending up with Mikoto.
There wasnt. But the fact he just totally disappears for the Coronzon reveal was the problem.
Does Stiyl have a high power level in modern Index or is he basically the Uiharu of the magic side.
Is Stiyl a boy or do we consider him a man now after everything he’s been through.
He’s a boy in a literal mans body.
I like Stiyl so much as a character that I picked up smoking. I have no regrets.
He hasn't even kissed a girl.
Because Index is a full on lady now after that ending theme where she has that lipstick on right?
I'd say stiyl already had something like that when he became more and more aware of how calculating and manipulative lola was, I believe the scene in ot12 was stiyl finding out about the controller right? I guess the reveal about the existence of the controller and the fight against pen dex was the pay-off for a lot of the stiyl and lola interactions of OT.
Seeing more of that in cronozon arc might have been cool but we saw something good that went in a different direction. Similarly NT12 was good set up for NT22 Hamazura and I do think Kamachi is good at long format story telling with just those examples.
Damn it now I want to see a Hamazura and Stiyl team up or perhaps a fight between the two reminiscent of the OT1 fight.
Umm.. Mikoto isn’t fiction. She’s a fact.
>Kamachi made someone kill themselves
>seeing a lot more of the cronozon ark would have been cool
I think everybody is over the magic politics for a while already. It’s time for a fun volume for a change.
Traditionally Indians smoked cigarettes and they claimed it gives you more power. It’s very possible the government tells us it’s bad because they don’t want humans to live longer and cause overpopulation.
Sure, but saying he knew she was a bit of a cunt is a bit different than saying he knew she was literally a demon in disguise. And the fact that he's who we see her with the most in almost every appearance she has. It would see like if anyone should be involved with her arc its him, the only one more so needing to be involved would be aleister. Hell even Aiwass got to take a shot at her. This would be akin to Izzard coming back and not having Himegami be involved.
Can we get some Indian magicians?
>waaah I don't like someone's opinion, let me point and call them names like a grade-schooler
It seems you misspelled marijuana. Or is that still the devil's lettuce for mormons?
Sozty and Ureapaddy Exica in the Road to Endymion novel.
But she's been more of a character since NT15 since she's been after OT3. She truly did nothing but pointless cameos in OT but she's finally having a plot now.
You can't have a fun volume when Misaka is on the cover though. She's like a black hole
Himegami is always relevant. She’s the master vampire behind the scenes disqualified by others because she’s what vampires crave the most. She’s a beautiful hybrid vampire with a unquestionable bloodlust and nothing to lose and I’ll give you my personal guarantee on that.
I don’t know. I don’t even smoke anyways. I’m just making conversation.
>trusting the synopsis
Are you gonna sperg when it's a Touma suffering volume?
>I like Mugino
Feel free to commit suicide anytime.
What plot? The one that hasn't been addressed since the arc it was introduced? What happened to Salome's warning? Or is Kamachi just playing the extremely long waiting game?
>I’m doing it. I’m really fighting alongside him! Yay!
I don’t care about Touma. The more suffering the better and I won’t care to be bothered.*
Kamachi isn’t playing a waiting game. He has no other successful series so he has to force this one to keep going to pay the bills.
Dear lord
She was referred to as narration as a flying demon literally one volume ago. This has been on going since NT16
You could have just said "yes he is playing a long waiting game"
Fucking nice
What bills? He is already filthy rich.
Kamachi likes re-using descriptors, really doesn't feel important if Mikoto herself is unchanged.
Writers don't get paid that much
Kamachi just gets easily distracted by shiny new plots and characters. It'll become relevant eventually.
And just in NT22 we had loads of foreshadowing about her distrusting the AAA so I'd say it's getting along
Stop acting retarded.
With a lot of money naturally comes expensive bills. He has to pay his Ferrari’s and mansions off somehow.
Poor little shonenbabby, your brain has been rotted from so many badly written series you can't even tell when a series is dragging its feet.
It took 20 volumes for him to even acknowledge the invisible thing in OT, it took that long for Aiwass' hints to get picked up on too. He's all about the long game
Kamachi doesn’t make as much as Gen Urobuchi though.
This wouldn't be happening if she was by herself and started becoming more and more edgy. MisaMisa was fun up to a point. He needs to tone it down for a good while. It's been around long enough to get people invested and make fanart and what not.
Contrary to what you just said most modern anime outclasses this series in writing and that’s saying something if I’m even willing to admit that because I’m a fan of this series.
More like he's just a hack
Not even trying to be rude but I find is sad that he wasn’t been able to evolve and get better in certain aspects of his writing as he ages. I really want him to shine brighter.
>It's been around long enough to get people invested and make fanart and what not.
I'm convinced everyone's latching onto it because there's like no other shipfaggotry in Index other than comedic blush and slap. I mean even fucking Hamazura, who is in an actual relationship last kissed his gf more than 20 volumes ago
>Long game
No, more like he tries to make this series everything for everyone and can't bring it to a conclusion. Ideas are literally dime a dozen, at some point you need to stop coming up with new ones and focus on finishing your concept.
You don't know.
When your primary audience is literal teenage boys, why would you ever grow and mature as a writer?
Pretty much everything that's happened is based off foreshadowing from some point in OT
I do.
I honestly think the chaotic amount of plot and characters is one of Index's strong points but I wish he'd do most of his distractions as side stories instead of the main plot. NT11 and NT12 could have easily been one
Imagine Last Order getting smashed to a bloody pulp haha
That's why Kamachi should bring back the guy version of Misamisa.
Imagine smashing LO? That sounds a lot more fun.
She’s only irresistible because she’s related to Mikoto. I’m sure a lot of the anons here would pipe her regardless but that’s the main reason,
But her best moments in Index are by far from NT
Not nearly as much sexual harassment
Have sex
All of us in this thread already have. Nice meme.
Not yet.
MUH
really?
>ideas are a dime a dozen
Where is your series then? Since its so easy and all.
After this charade I think we can all conclude that the series would be better if it had more Mikoto
Kamachi already figured this out, this is why she features in like 81% of NT.
The easiest way for a writer to convey words and feelings to mentally challenged children is by loudly screaming. Kamachi's target audience is 10-year-olds, so it isn't surprising he writes like one.
More like 60%
It's all mostly just minor cameos. Which makes me wonder what some of you are always crying about when it's basically nothing.
>You can't criticise food unless your name is Gordon Ramsay or you own a million restaurants
You picked the easiest fallacy. I'm not the topic here.
This should become her outfit for Part 3
what did MP mean by this?
>I don't even know what to call her anymore, she's this meta archetype that I haven't seen in any other series.
Just call her best girl
You didn't criticize it at all though. All you said was that cooking is easy, so no shit I would ask why you havent made it big if its easy.
Stop samefagging the same Mikoto picture, Oneguy.
Lets drop the pretending, its because she has her own series that has a much better anime than the main series
>food analogy
You weren't there? Sorry to hear that user.
>Backpedaling already
Jej
If im oneguy then why did I just reply to myself?
The only volumes she doesn't appear in are 4, 11, 14, 19, 20 IIRC. She has a cameo in NT1. way more than 60%.
She was barely in NT2, 5, 7, 9.
Literally one line in NT12 and NT20
I accept your concession
I'm sorry your peabrain can't grapple the concept of an analogy.
She was barely in NT22 too
Why is it always food
Half of Yea Forums is fat almost assuredly
>No U
Americans
Its funny how in the same thread you can see Mikotofags saying she has loads of development and time dedicated to her character and then immediately say that she only has minor cameos in NT. If you want minor cameos ask Itsuwa what it means.
Clockwork.
Most of the Mikoto content is relegated to one chapter, like in NT6,7,10,16,17,21
probably because it's something everyone knows, makes it easier to understand the analogy and all
>There is only one person with the same opinion
>Mikotofags
>fags
>one person
Go back to school kid
That one got a legitimate laugh out of me.
Likewise, I was making a general point to not be biased and welcome all the character potential and general writing merits but there's always one of you that's insistent on a character having no merits à la Misaka haters. Surprised no one called me out for liking index and thinking she was well utilised in OT same as misaka.
Mugino being an excellent antagonist in my book and the perfect adversary for Hamazuras character.
>you
>understanding sarcasm
go back to the womb
Evil people have no merits
She has ongoing development over a long period of time between novels and those are also from short cameos/scenes in both OT and NT, yes.
Individual merits are irrelevant, I'm talking about writing merits.
Index isn't a threat to them like Misaka is.
Mugino was fine as an antagonist much like index was ok when she was pulling support in volumes like agnese's arc. Its how she got handled after she was done being one that was bad. I think she would have been perfect at her role if she had died in OT15 or 19.
If you're talking shipfaggotry index is a much bigger threat than misaka though.
Will the Accel anime show explicit nudity?
will it be last order?
Mugino lost all merit when she turned into another generic comedic relief
Villains exist to be killed by heroes so there's no writing merit in keeping them around
So what are chances of aiwass and anna doing the fusion dance? On the same note would a strong magician make a better avatar than a weak one?
The ratings already say that it has explicit nudity
It'll be the zombie and imouto
Why are you so upset that people like it and have to delude yourself that it's just one person? What's wrong with you?
Hishigata's sister only
Tell them that, not me.
I will.
Huotou, Hirumi, and Naru
3 characters who go nude
Because oneguy is obsessed with Mikoto and always makes the same brainlet-tier posts praising her.
Anna was body jacked for a century and Aiwass doesn't want an avatar, so basically 0 chance.
Estelle was nude as well I think.
>Creating a false boogeyman because someone likes a character you dont like
Peak cringe, seek help
Are you that one guy? Because you're acting like it.
Oneguy isn't even a Mikotofag.
Well to be accurate Aiwass needs one but said he won't use a living person's avatar, which is why the idea of him using Yuiitsu has gained some traction, since that may be setup for him taking someone who's half dead or irreversibly damaged
The irony of the situation means its a bit above zero
Can we please move on from the "Aleister and Friends" show now that he's dead? Thelema shit needs a long, long cooldown.
I agree, I stated before NT has generally been bad at utilising its established characters and really doesn't have room to develop and work with a character like Mugino at this point. Mugino also being in the same boat as Index for NT with only a few good lines in NT2 and 6.
Spin off would be the easy answer here but the spin off adhomen is is pretty played out. Mugino had a good run and so did Hamazura, I'd also argue Touma is getting past his prime while misaka accelerator and index are far past it. Sucks that most of the new characters to come from NT similarly have trouble finding a place same as the returning cast.
I feel kamisato was the last good attempt at making a new character and story that had its problems but was well intended.
Don't worry kamachi San; I'll give you a patronising gold star for trying your best.
Thelema might not even be real, now it's secret chiefs and Rosicrucian order
>he's dead
Wiki reader please
>now that he's dead
Has wiki not updated yet?
Dumb, DUMB wikifaggot
>kamisato was the last good character
I was with you until here.
Hang Mugino and dump her corpse in an incinerator
I'm totally on board for some Mugino spiraling hopelessly downward story about her trying and failing to be a better person but that's not compatible with an action series like Index and not what a lot of people are into index for.
What do modern index fans come to index for anyway, just misaka, misaki, accelerator and Touma flair right?
Dumbass
>that's not compatible with an action series like Index
t. skipped Accelerator's entire melodramatic arc
Clearly you aren't with me at all if that's what you thought I said.
The only dumbass I know is Othinus for giving up literal god powers to live in Touma’s basement even though he’ll never love her like a girlfriend.
Mugino herself has no interest in such a plotline though
According to the last fan poll
>Touma
>Accel
>Aleister
>Mikoto
>Othinus
>Index
>Thor
>Misaki
>Mathers
>Kamisato
Doesn't seem like people are too into Item these days
That’s true.
Touma doesn't even have a basement.
B R O W N S U G A R
Character and place in the story, minor difference.
And Index too
You do realize if the entire Raildex fanbase was an entire school the people who vote on those polls would be equivalent to about one single kid.
Aleister truly is the most popular girl in the series. Praise degenerate old men who are cuter than his daughters.
He does.
For aleister and chuunishit obviously, why else would you have picked it up if not the chuunishit?
Prove it.
Nips aren't too fond of Item stuff these days, as few and far between as they are. Kamachi might've permanently sidelined them with NT20 after Saiai and Mugino left AC
Hamazura is 1 spot after that if you discount the non-Raildex characters.
Kitten mittens and level four espers defying the odds and winning the day.
Hamazura doesn't count as a character user
When did aiwass say that?
She started undressing but she was never nude
I won’t.
I guess I should clarify that Mugino doesn't fit with what NT is, OT being much more experimental could facilitate arcs like accelerators.
With Kamisato being an experiment as stated by Kamachi but a pretty bad one.
What does me clarifying this do for the discussion? Absolutely Fuck all but I've already written it the same way Kamachi spontaneously wrote most of OT4s Crazy shit. I have no citation for why I think NT is less experimental than OT and it's just my head canon.
Which one?
You're a sad man.
So you can't? Concession accepted.
When did kamachi say kamisato was an experiment? It directly led to the aleister arc.
It’s not a concession. It’s a promise.
The original incarnation, the second incarnation and the current incarnation.
We all are.
You promised to suck my dick too but you haven't done it yet. Your promises are worth less than dirt.
Yeah I think I picked it up for chuuni shit when I was a kid, stayed for Hamazura and company and I'm barely hanging on now x years later.
I'll look for it, it should've been around NT18 or a recent volume when Coronzon talked about how Aleister's been spending a century trying to get him a proper avatar but Aiwass keeps rejecting, even like he did in OT19
But its only gotten more chuuni as time went on
>Stayed for Hamazura
>Stayed for Hamazura
>Stayed for Hamazura
Yikes, there are people like you.
I didn’t find that funny.
>kumiko poster
opinion discarded
The only yikes I know is when Mikoto’s electricity didn’t work on Touma the first time but the second time on the bridge it absolutely DESTROYED him.
I only recall it saying he just wouldn't take one, which makes sense since he's already pretty bored. Making himself even stronger would be torture.
The only hot babe in this series is Saten. That's all I know.
It'd be weirder if Kamisato didn't return at this point. The amount of focus Kamachi gave him for four straight volumes despite not being a girl/heroine character surprised me. If he returns his harem poses a problem, though, there's just too many of them. Kamachi would have to cut it down to two or three relevant girls.
>Railgun girls other than Mikoto are popular
>Tokiwadai sluts are super popular they would totally dominate a popularity poll
>don't even make it to the top 5 in the official poll that is shilled everywhere on official material and magazines and doesn't even exist in a fan poll
Really makes you think.
Wasn't Mikoto #2 in the overall poll? Assuming this is actually the kono sugoi poll.
Anyone that thinks he isn't returning is as braindead as the ones saying the MC trio would never return during his arc
>don't even make it to the top 5
You're just limiting the results to suit your agenda, they made it into the top 10 which is completely fine.
If Aiwass was so bored why didn't he jump in wr battle bathtub with the magic gods?
>trio
*duo
Hamazura is the token incel self-insert for betas, not someone who moves the main plot.
This is a fan poll which featured all Kamachi characters, I just trimmed the non-raildex ones out of those top places
I LOVE BROWN GIRLS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>only one that has a girlfriend
Based boys seething
>beaten by Kekine and Measure Heart
I guess you're just out of touch.
We all do.
Making it to the top 10 isn't "domination" sweetie.
He wasn't actually bored, Coronzon didn't believe a single word that came out of his mouth. He's been looking for Anna's body since the end of OT while caring for Lilith
*Trio
>Black Mikoto
>Pregnant at 14
Sounds pretty accurate desu.
>girlfriend
>characters who had the most recent anime appearances will rank higher in more recent polls
Whoa...mindblowing...
Toaru Kagaku no Accelerator is the weakest part of the entire series it's entirely down to the director's decision to rush the series or not.
Yo is that my nigga MP? Based
>Saten was in 23rd and Uiharu didn't even place
That's a hispanic Mikoto
He was so bored waiting for Horos to fuck up that he had to have an anti suicide function installed.
Aiwass seems to have the same fetish that alucard from hellsing has. He likes to see humans and weaker people come up with bullshit to take people like him down. He was excites about touma,kazakiri,accel and even mina challenging him. Comparitevly he only insulted coronzon and never mentioned magic gods. It's probably why he was so fond of crowley too.
cringe
Still holds true
user do you really think that's the case? He said at the end of OT22 that he wanted Accelerator to free him from the Sister's network so he could be in his own domain. Aleister literally gave him a free powerup
>Misaki ranked higher than Uiharu and Kuroko despite not even having an appearance in Index 3
Strange.
This series will still be pointlessly going nowhere in another decade. We're the One Piss of light novels.
>Mathers
>Kamisato
>Thor
>Aleister was barely in Index 3
Cope
You guys are forgetting that was a poll from a single blog that pretty much only people that are really into Kamachi's works or at least caught up with Raildex would visit. Even if you discount the sample size, it's not something you should use for the series as a whole since casual fans and Railgun-only fans barely took part of it.
That's why you got results like Zashiki Warashi's Shinobu having more votes than Kuroko, which would never happen if it was an actual official general poll.
That fan poll was shilled a lot on twitter, 2ch and other places. They should have had a decent amount of people voting on it.
I didn't say it was an anime poll, that's mostly LNfags, which is still quite a bit since the other aspects aren't as big as they used to be
It said he was being pulled back from the surface since his tether was broken. Not really seeing how that's a power up. Even more obvious is that he won't take an avatar no matter what Aleister tries. Aiwass speaks in riddles but I don't think he has ever lied.
I mean the wings were a powerup. That's what lets him transform into a dragon(?). Also he just lied to Anna about Lilith
The wings were a nuisance to him and as far as we know he just didn't say anything to Anna. Something he does a lot honestly.
Been a while since I checked but it took a long fucking time for accelerator to get very high in the Kong sugoi polls.
Accelerator was given such a massive push with the conculsion of a story 5 years in the making (ww3) coinciding with a second season anime release that really hypes him up and happening upon strong support from all sides of the anime and LN scene. All that just to get second place next to Touma.
Nothing from season 1 but the actor still got an award anyway.
Season 2 giving him and a lot of characters a massive push with Itsuwa and index also making the rankings along side accelerator.
Meanwhile Hamazura gets shafted entirely with Index iii and a push in the NT with NT22 that no one coming off of the anime can possibly jump to or would want to, all of this while the series is in a sales dump.
Hamazura is like that treasure planet movie, sent out to fucking die in his big debut. Now we can look forward to NT anime guys(?).
It's kinda funny looking back at the shit show last year in this index ii context.
Hamazura even during WW3 wasn't that popular because he's the antithesis to the power fantasy which is what most nips look for in anime
Index 3 could've been perfect and it wouldn't have mattered much
It's not that different from the usual results in Kono LN Sugoi polls, for example in 2018's (with no anime hype) the top three males for Index were Touma (3rd), Accelerator (5th) and Kamisato (14th). For girls it was Mikoto (1st), Othinus (10th) and Index (20th).
The only poll I've seen diverging from the usual is the mobage one, but even that one has Mikoto and Accel in 1st and 2nd, and obviously is missing most NT characters.
Completely agree. Would still have been nice to have it happen all the same.
Bros, Mikotofags are just too strong
>Hamazura gets shafted entirely
seethe harder, Shiagecuck.
Bend the knee.
>index 3 bootlickers still exist
oof
What about Saten fans? We like them though even though they’re pretty well behaved for the most part.
Birdway spinoff when?
Can't; too busy laughing at it all, the shafting extends to most of Index iii but bullying Hamazura is funnier.
And it'll just be a matter of time before "that" happens.
I never considered Hamazura as much of an MC as Touma or Accelerator. He always feels like a third wheel to me and feels more like a comic relief character.
...
No one likes you
Literally every character in Index gets a chance to hold the comedy relief ball.
The mobage one is a meme poll
What the fuck do you expect Hamazura to do? He has no powers. He just gets shoved into these huge world-ending plots with little rhyme or reason despite having nothing to do with any of it.
having no powers but still influencing things is the point
Misaki can oneshot anyone not extremely knowledgeable in mental study or that has some kind of passive protective field. I'm pretty sure the latter is common at the upper levels, but her ability bypasses most physical boundaries, so only some would work.
The different voting methods are also worth noting. The mobage poll gives you 3 votes every day to spread as you want between the 50 characters avaliable, the Kono Ranobe poll, if I'm remembering correctly, lets you vote for 3 different male characters and 3 different female characters from LNs as a whole, and the fanpoll let you vote for 6 different characters from anything Kamachi has written.
Nothing Hamazura's done has ever mattered in the grand scheme of things. He gets plenty of personal victories, but it's not like his presence in Russia affected the outcome at all. Hamazura only shines when there are personal stakes involved, and he'll probably emerge victorious in those specific circumstances. Whether Dion was revived or not didn't matter to anyone other than him.
I'm not saying his actions are meaningless, but his presence didn't particularly affect WW3 either.
Reviving Dion caused her to use that spell at the end of NT22 though, that was pretty fucking crucial.
Dion was the reason that the GD grimoires kept Coronzon from nuking half the universe. But I wouldn't doubt that Mathers' incredible autistic pettiness could have somehow forced it to happen while he is entirely unconscious.
Which was pretty half-assed when you get down to it. Ultimately, Hamazura's reason for being there was mainly to flesh out Coronzon, but there was no functional reason to invite him to Europe aside from his insistence. It's the same thing as Hawaii. The only time his presence outside Academy City was sensible was when he went to Russia completely by accident. When other characters actually invite him along, it makes no sense. No one expects anything out of him, so no one would bother to invite him anywhere.
Misaka is the only girl Touma has canonically hugged and has been hugged by apart from Othinus. Therefore this strengthens the fact that Mikoto and Misaka will truly win the Touma bowl through polygamy while leaving index forever cucked
Well Aiwass mentioned him in NT19 so I assume he's already part of a bigger plan
Plenty of characters make these lists without powers all the same.
I'd argue his point was to showcase that a character that is considered widely liked or disliked now probably wasn't always like that with character popularity being as frugal as it is and how much time and focus a character needs to get there.
OT pushed accelerator of course
NT first half Othinus and Misaki being pushed in the manga. And now the series feels pretty aimless, I guess it's pushing Aliester and kamisato who might have been received better if they were cute girls... Oh wait Aliester did turn into a girl almost immediately and did pretty well from herself.
Kamachi is free to try and turn Hamazura into a girl if he's that desperate to keep him around lel.
Accelerator similarly started out unpopular and took a lot of work to get where he is. Hamazura never had that opportunity so of course he isn't getting anywhere, maybe he could get lucky and snagg ninth place in the future or some shit.
I hope you don't go down to Gensokyo when she doesn't end up with him.
I can't wait for the seething from either side regardless.
Kamisato has more art than Aleister it seems. Accelerator was never not popular. Him and Touma have always and will always be the biggest male characters, not appearing for almost 10 vols didn't change that
Aleister hasn't been a girl for that long. Give it time.
Also, it's mostly one person drawing Kamisato all the time.
God I hope they go the way of Naruto and Bleach and start burning books and merchandise. My sides wouldn't survive a third one.
I-I know user... I just don’t want to face and accept reality and be happy with how it will inevitably be
>mainly to flesh out Coronzon
I still get a chuckle out of Touma's "ask for their help" line before he bisected the ship.
He's been a girl for over 2 years now. He even implied he's gonna make a new male body down the line and that'll be when Coronzon can get her body back. People like Aleister because of how unique his plot was and the whole series was building up to him being at the forefront. A lot of people somehow didn't realize this until NT18 but some swore for years that shit was gonna go down when Kamachi decided to pull the trigger on Thelema. But that has nothing to do with gender. The male Aleister ranked highly 2 years ago as well because he has the most interesting past
Touma will put his hands all over Index without any qualms. The other girls can't compete.
If Touma unleashes his seed inside of an incubator would the result be human or dragon?
If I need someone to get me out of a completely bullshit situation and Touma isn't avaliable it's got to be Hamazura
NT22 was Kamachi turning Coronzon into the bullied one really hard compared to past villains. Her pride was in pieces by the time Touma told her to hold still so he could punch her
>2ch is being delusional and fantasizing about a Zashiki Warashi anime
Hope is everything in the world
this is cursed
Even Hamazura doesnt care for her much. Dropped her for a stick of gum.
You can't just find such a perfectly ordinary stick of gum anywhere, he had to
The question was "what do modern raildex fans keep up with the series for" so i dont think "what about railgun onlies" is much of a retort