Dungeon meshi

The freckled halfling introduced them, but yeah they probably have a proper guild contract. It's Chilchack after all, he wouldn't do it otherwise.

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Is this going to setup Marcille as the next DM?

I don't think it's a crazy theory considering how much Marcille and Thistle have in common. Both being mages who watched people they cared about die until they finally steeped into ancient magic looking for a way to stop it.

I don't think I could handle this series having a downer ending though.

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who is this girl?

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the temptation is there
>nightmare chapter shows her motivation of not wanting to lose loved ones due to old age
>her mysterious backstory and field of study of ancient/forbidden magic

Laius and Farlyn had a couple of prior party members who were shitheads and faked illness/injury so they could mooch of them. I assume she's one of them.

we don't know yet, she hasn't shown up

I wouldn't be surprised if everyone else was just a regular hire through casual recruiting. Marcille was the only one who didn't stay on for money.

Funny that Sureau looks so weirded out in his introduction though. Maybe he was randomly approached by Laius and he didn't turn him down outright because he was too polite to give him a blunt answer. Or because his sister was cute.

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The newest cover page made me wonder about their heights...Farlyn has always been taller than Marcille (dem northern genes) but not by that much. But in the cover page Marcille looks a lot smaller than Farlyn.

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Llaius' love interest.

I assumed she hit a growth spurt after their academy days.

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Sureau's reason for coming to the island in the first place isn't clear, much less why he joined any particular party instead of sticking with his retainers. It could be something as obvious as falling in love with farlyn in a chance meeting, even if that doesn't exactly align with when he says he fell in love with her. It could also be something as inane as going through the guild because he needed some local currency and they just happened to be a party with an opening.

Its been foreshadowed pretty strongly so far that she's at least VERY interested in gaining the power of immortality.

> Father and pet bird die when shes a kid ((potentially of old age, her mom tells her that she 'runs at a different pace' than others during her dads funeral and Laius also makes the assessment during the nightmare that her dad must've died 'very young'))
> Studies forbidden dark magics including soul manipulation + other dimensional energy to achieve difficult resurrection
> In the nightmare she despairs that the only way she 'saved' Farlyn from being eaten by the monster ((death/old age)) was by turning her into a puppet/toy ((tool for the DM)) and wants the DM's grimoire to redo it properly
> Her staff is named Ambrosia (('immortality' in ancient greek))

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The idea of Laius pursuing romance is beyond me.

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She was quite young at the academy. Ages aren't specified, but with how she's drawn, I'd guess like 12 or 14.

I mean she is leaning forward/craning her neck down a fair bit in that hug picture.

Did you not see how he was eyeing ogre Marcille? He just has a type that's hard to come by.

I want awkward one-on-one time between him and Izutsumi.

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I can picture him falling for a sapient pile of food made from creature parts like pic related.

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They have 0 chemistry though. Sure he's fascinated by monsters, but anything romantic would be completely out of the blue, and I don't think Kui does anything without significant foreshadowing.

Marcille's by far the one he's most likely to end up with. Namari's also possible as the curve ball.

Laius' future lover will be the dungeon he rules over

His ideal wife is probably some sort of shape-shifting monster.

Dude has some weird kinks, but I think he's content making friends.

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Immortal dungeon king Laius with Marcille as his mad sorcerer doesn't seem impossible. He'd be happy raising and playing with monsters, and she gets to be with someone who won't die of old age.
Something tells me the resolution of the manga won't be "Seize ultimate power and dominion over magic" though.

>Marcille's by far the one he's most likely to end up with
I think that's Super unlikely.

Probably not, but I think it will end with some kind of, maybe not 'pro dungeon' theme per say, but at least a more optimistic view of what they can be, considering how far the manga goes to show you that dungeons are their own living things with ecosystems and stuff.

I'd like for Laius to still become the 'king'/DM or whatever, I think he loves the dungeon enough to be able to do it properly, without letting it grow into a danger or die off completely, plus with the high possibility of Farlyn not being able to ever be FULLY healed of her condition/be able to leave the dungeon, that he'd elect to stay with her.

He just needs to keep a handful of those transformation spores on hand to keep things exciting.

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It's unlikely because the author clearly isn't interested in ships and romantic subplots, so there's a good chance the manga ends without any kind of "And these characters got married and had kids" resolution. It's just if any character ship happens, it's most likely to be Laius and Marcille because they have the strongest relationship dynamic and development.

I think if romance got dealt with at all, it'd be between Farlyn and Sureau, not necessarily that it'll work out, but that it'll be dealt with.

I'm the absolute last person to wear fucking shipping goggles, but I think the subtext has been pretty blatant.

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I would think so too, but sureau's been pulled out of the action. I don't know how that would come up unless he just decides to go back into the dungeon or farlyn gets freed from the sorcerer particularly early.

Tbh I didn't really like how Kabru was written in the recent chapter, lately he's been feeling like a weird comedic side character lol

I will admit Ogre!Marcille is amazing though

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Girls can be friends without wanting to fuck, and they've known each other since they were kids.

I'm sure if a friend you thought was dead came back you'd be that happy as well.

Well I don't really figure there'd be any big consequences, but in the case where Farlyn is turned back or at least regains her mind, it'd be good to give Sureau's character the closure of being able to speak to her and be able to move forward regardless of what happens.

Check through the goldstripper group, in case she's associated with them

He's in the dungeon right now.

I'm pretty sure Laius and Marcille are just top tier friends. And like another user mentioned I think she's more into Farlyn romantically.

>marcille will be back to normal next chapter and we'll never get any full page spreads of ogre marcille's incredible ripped bod

I'm fucking furious, lads

Thanks doc

Fair enough, but I don't usually blush profusely while taking a bath with my bros.

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Girls are just like that, also if you're in a bath you're likely gonna be flushed anyway.

>Sureau and Namari join
I imagine that he just sees talent from the crowd and recruits them on the spot. Even impulsive about it without prior knowledge of their abilities but always right on the mark.
>needs a tank who's very knowledgeable on smithery
>recruits Namari because she talks a lot about their weapons
>wants a strong champion who can take down tough monsters
>randomly asks Sureau as he's passing by just because he liked his cool looking sword

how often do you take a bath with your bros
also she's not blushing there

It's just some adventure party skinship user, you don't always have the clean water to waste on singular baths.

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He's all the way up on the first floor at the entrance

I think it depends on how mutual farlyn/sureau's relationship was. It's just vague enough that things could still go either way. On the one hand, sureau never told farlyn exactly how he felt about her, but their relationship was well known to everyone besides laius and they're shown together in flashbacks quite often.

I kind of like it. Kabru's been seen as cold-hearted and pragmatically ruthless when compared to Laius, but standing alongside the Canaries he's the one out of his depth, and just trying to do what he can to speak up for human interests while being treated like a precocious child by group that's ready to let bodies drop for the greater good.

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Less often than you'd hope.

>also she's not blushing there
My bad.

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I get that, I don't disagree with the actual idea of him being out of his depth but I just think the actual framing of it is a little obvious and takes some of the punch away.

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Yeah I mean they had a friendly relationship for sure, main issue for me is just whether Farlyn would reciprocate Sureau's feelings or at least give him a chance romantically, she's kind of airheaded, so I can't really figure whether she'd be hesitant or just give it a go.

That being said, I get the feeling that she won't be able to get fully cured of her condition/be able to leave the dungeon even if Laius becomes DM, if Marcille can figure out the grimoire then maybe, but who knows how long she would have been mixed in with the monster soul at that point. So even if she regains her mind or something it could be the relationship could just never work out because of those limitations on her.

Yeah I mean, she's ecstatic that her best friend is alive, that her spell worked, AND they're in a hot bath, makes sense she'd be flushed like that.

getting red faced in a hot bath is normal
you can literally see the hot steam

Please no. Farlyn ending up in the state she is in now already broke some part of my soul so I will be extremely depressed if everyone doesn't get a happy ending.

That's fair. I guess it's just meant to emphasize that he's flustered/frustrated enough to finally drop a bit more of his usual facade.

Or that they just wanted something lighter in tone to offset Bilbo Baggins here.

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Farlyn's a weirdo like Laius. She might genuinely be thrilled to be half dragon. It's the mind control part that really sucks.

Everyone's gonna have their own interpretations.

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She seems to like monsters/biology stuff but I think the chimera form might be a bit much even for her, it's something that only Laius can really appreciate.

That being said, if DM Laius or Marcille + Grimoire were able to at least lessen the transformation so she was just feathery/had talons/wings or something she'd probably be okay with it.

Actually funnily enough, I think this exchange here might be the only time we've seen Marcille blush in a vaguely romantic way?

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>An overarching theme of the series is learning to let things go.
>Series starts with Farlyn dying and everyone trying to bring her back.

The series is going to end with them having to make the choice to either continue the dungeon and fix/properly revive Farlyn, or undo th he soul trap and let all those souls finally go free which will include Farlyn who died again during the climax of the series.

Yeah, but that's probably also just a general embarrassed 'am I going to be complimented on what I'm wearing' kind of blush too.

Actually, I think their relationship was at least a little mutual? Or at least Farlyn was aware of his feelings to some extent. That's actually a facet that I like about her character, she seems "airheaded" but I think she's a heck of a lot more subtle and aware than her brother. In this panel she's clearly aware of the awkwardness going on lol

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I don't think it'll be that limited. I would think that the dungeon could still easily exist at the end of all this if someone like Laius, who actually cares about the dungeon and the monsters in it, become DM, and have a message that the dungeon itself isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's just a life form like anything else.

You're right but I just think it's funny, pretty sure the series isn't gonna go into shipping territory at all beyond some of the side characters like Sureau.

don't do this to me user...

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The problem is the soul trap, which seems tied to the dungeons existance. If you don't destroy the dungeon, all those ghosts are never going to be freed and the castle people are counting on them.

I imagine though if Marcille gets her hands on the grimoire, she could figure out some way to modify the dungeon's properties and allow souls out. Unless maybe having that recycling of souls is necessary for the dungeon to operate but I don't think so?

Yeah, they're both goofballs, but I think that Farlyn was still better at basic social cues.

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the dungeon's definitely going to be turned into a farm/restaurant by the end

I think the cursed humans who live in the fantasy world are separate from the dungeons main mechanics, and that Thistle or whoever the dungeon master is at the time would be able to free them on their own without fucking up the dungeon.

I don't know if theres anything you could do for the souls that die 'normally' in the dungeon like we see on the earlier levels, but at least in those cases the souls will still degrade and dissapear eventually even if the person isn't revived.

The souls being kept in normally is just an effect of the dungeons natural magics, I don't think they're necessary for the dungeon to exist.

The name of the restaurant will be "Dungeon Meshi"

Originally I was like 99% sure that the finale was going to have to be about not repeating the mad sorcerer's mistakes and just learning when to let the people we love go.

But now that they have an actual plan in place for saving Farlyn I just really want to cling to the possibility of a happy ending of some kind.

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Good god she's sexy...

Do you think that... Senshi's companions are still down there...?

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I don't think it'll necessarily be about 'letting go' but more just letting what's natural take its course, including things potentially dying, or potentially not.

With the entire dungeon being a living ecosystem of its own, I figure that Laius, maybe with help from Senshi/Marcille, will try to run the dungeon like a living thing, not letting it grow out of control or die, just like the brain of a living body.

That being said, we still don't really know everything about dungeons, Kabru raised some good points to the canaries; why hide the dark arts/what relation is there between them and dungeons, why did the Utaya incident happen even though there was really low mana, and how does a normal person become master of a dungeon? Until we know this stuff I think the ending is going to be out of our ability to guess.

I doubt it, if Farlyns soul was barely tethered to her corpse after what, like, less than a year? Then Senshi's team would absolutely have passed on completely by now.

This scene really gets to me.

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>Less than a year

Less than even a month. The main issue is that most of her body was digested by the dragon already. No body means nothing to be teathered or return to.

But aren't souls just stuck there regardless of whether or not they have a body to be properly resurrected?

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Yes. Thats what the soul trap is, souls are stuck in the dungeon and unable to leave without a physical body. If a soul is left there too long it degrades and loses its reason, becoming like those ghosts from the sherbet chapter. The king made it over the threshold with his body though so his soul is free, which is why the scorcerer has been unable to find him.

I think the idea was that they degrade and eventually disappear anyway, unless they find a body to possess, which makes them a zombie, which still decays and leaves the soul fading away.

I just mean that it's been probably decades since they died, so not only will their bodies have rotted within the first few year at most, their souls would have become detached very fast afterwards and then since theres not many people who get to that layer of the dungeon, there's not really anything for them to possess, so they'd either be gone completely at this point or be so close to fading away that they're unrecognisable and mindless.

I gained a lot of respect for him in the kelpie chapter. He's judged pretty harshly by the others for his quirks.

Keep in mind that souls outside the trap seem to be able to "pass on" while the ones that degrade until they dissapear is more like the soul being obliterated. Souls degrading until they vanish is scary to have happen to yourself.

It's the opposite isn't it? He's a straightman like Marcille that compliments comedic characters.

I suppose so, but I imagine the DM could probably allow them to dissapear or at least maybe to release them onto the surface where they can do it there.

They've got chemistry, in that they play well off each other, but no sexual tension.
It's a friend-ship.

I've grown unexpectedly fond of him since he met with Laius.

Rather than 'comedic' I think he'll make a good foil for the canaries/Misurn because they're in full tunnel vision mode and need to be pulled back to reality to see there are more options in any one situation than they think.

I just want the Thordens to be happy ;_;

You think the Canaries are going to let a filthy half-elf do that?

I'll never get over the fact that Young Senshi was basically Steven Universe

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>I will wait for you a thousand summers...

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moments like
Make it seem like it's not totally platonic, or at least not totally devoid of potential. I can't imagine Marcille reacting like that to any other member of the party.

>dudes, I hated how they alienated my sister
>so I went to military and left her completely alone

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Hey.
Laius is not a very intelligent person.

To be fair the rest of the party are on the far end of the romance spectrum for Marci. Laius isn't exactly prime material for her but it's not like Senshi's beard makes her ears perk up.

>Laius isn't exactly prime material for her but it's not like Senshi's beard makes her ears perk up.
Laius isn't exactly material, period.

I am expecting Laius ending up cursed and damned to be the DM, with Farlyn still being a walking abomination, Marcille going mad and desperately trying to undo the curse. Everyone else is dead/undead.

Why? Because this author likes her tragedies.

To be fair he doesn't really seem to make excuses for himself over it. He was young and wanted to escape an oppressive atmosphere, but just ended up regretting abandoning her in the end.

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This Laius is at least the closest thing to being 'normal' in her eyes, Chilchack is like a little baby and Senshi has a gross beard that elves don't like.

She likes bittersweet or realistically melancholic endings, she's not morio kitoh.

It's great when a character has some flaws.
Yet something like this I would excpect from Chil or cat but not from this dude who was ready to go after her alone.
On the other hand it might be because of sense of guilty and not complitely because of monser fetishism.

well, at least both of them are adorable kids

Honestly getting Liaus to compliment anything that isnt monsters would shock me too.

He said she would look cute in the frog suit.

Everyone said she was cute, and she was.

You have to keep in mind this is a decision Laius made when he was a fair bit younger and a lot less mature than he is now.

All he seemed to know was his overbearing home life, I imagine he just wanted to escape from it and become something greater than he was, like a lot of people do. But obviously didn't realise the true consequences until it happened.

Makes sense that, after he quit the military, he gained a much greater appreciation for his bond with Farlyn, which leads up to the start of the manga pretty well.

>old fart
I never get this do halflings have the lifespans of hamsters is he like 60 in potato years?

he did regret it and swore he would never leave her again.

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yeah

>I hate how they alienated my sister, and myself by proxy for sticking up for her
>I'll join the military and experience real brotherhood, maybe make officer one day and be able to support her
>oh wait I'm an actual autist and get ostracized legitimately this time

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Yeah, the young Laius might not have been able to "put his finger" on why he didn't like it at home. It might have been a realization he got later after leaving and getting some perspective

Girls have different kind of friendships than boys it gets alot more intimate without being actually gay.

nice meme

But they have the same intelligence as humans. It's easier to imagine elves living that long than a halfling being an adult at 5 years old.

they live like 3/4 as long as a human

It's weird that Laios and Izutsumi never got a bonding chapter when she had one with every other party member.

No nipple-counting allowed

So his equivalent age is 40.
The girl is probably just a teen, she's not actually calling him a geriatric.

Halflings usually live until they're about 50. Humans live around 60 or so in Dungeon Meshi.

And half of it is that Chilchack acts like an old man constantly, if he was only a year older she'd be calling him that.

>>holding hands with interlocked fingers
Nearly gave me a darned heart attack when I read it. Think of the impressionable young minds!

they literally had something more intimate than sex right there, Farlyn gave Marcille some of her mana

You don't hold hands with your female friends?

What point is there to bond if she won't let you count her nipples anyway?

Well Laius did explicitly tell Sureau that he approves of him courting his sister. But knowing Laius, he's going to try and set them up, only to have things screw up spectacularly - to Sureau's chagrin

But how do the children work. Do halflings grow up really fast? Are elves children for decades? It's hard to imagine with with humanoid species who all have the same intelligence level. I used to think elves just grow up the same as humans and then not age but apparently in Dungeon Meshi it's different.

I get the feeling that now everythings out in the open to Laius, other characters like Marcille and Chilchack will be more forceful about telling him to keep his fucking mouth shut and stay out of it.

She was already blushing like that when she entered the room and she blushed the most when Chilchuck made fun of her.

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>The idea of Laius pursuing romance is beyond me.
Yeah, me too. Considering how he's married to Marcille.

>>[gasps internally]

Yeah, but blushing in drawings is usually used as a facial expression like a smile, or a frown, not something that lingers.

The issue is never that Chilchack or Marcille aren't forceful, the issue is that by the time they realize he's doing something stupid, he's already done it.

>fluff sticking out from the dress
Cute!

>It turns out that they've been lovers since the beginning.
>Only Chilchak was never told.

Me too. Laius is a dork who really needs to get it together, but both he and his sister deserve to be happy.

I get the feeling that races genuinely just grow up slower/faster depending on race, For example we know Marcille thinks the age of 29 is a childs age, but she and Farlyn went to school at the same time and were in the same classes, and they both resembled teenagers, so I'm guessing Marcille was probably older than Farlyn by maybe a decade or more, but was still more or less mentally at the same age, maybe a bit higher.

Senshi as well, in the flashback chapter he was like, 36 or so? And still considered very young, probably barely an 'adult' or something akin to Laius's age now.

I don't really know how consistent all that is, like whether they stay as babies for years or whatever, but judging from what we've seen of the elves and how slow paced they are ((Kabru's little thought of the elf interrogation being 'okay I'll question you again in two years' seems pretty telling)) I'd say that at least them slowly mentally maturing along with their physical age, to a certain degree at least, is probably right.

>Halflings usually live until they're about 50
Halflings can get much older, they have a bigger lifespan than humans.

Rather that they'll tell him something like 'if you see the two of them alone together just walk away' or like, actively keep him from going near them, if they aren't in a cramped dungeon team scenario I don't think it'd be TOO difficult.

that's Tolkien lore, it's different for Meshi

They usually live to like, 150 or so, right?

That's always been fairly bullshit when you have fantasy races that live 10x as long as humans. The idea that someone can live for 500 years and only be as competent or knowledgeable as a 20 something year old is ridiculous. A 100 year old elf acting like a little kid is fucking stupid. They'd act like a 100 year old, regardless of physical development. If it takes you 10 times as long to develop the language and social skills of someone else, that's not being slow, that's being critically retarded.

Watching Chilchack and Marcille dumbfounded and trying to react to Laius' crazy train of thoughts is my favourite running gag.

I bet Kui probably had a party member like Laius in real life when she played D&D

How is it different? Elves do grow up at the same rate as humans in most settings and in current D&D for example. The easy answer is that Marcille was of comparable age to Farlyn when they were in school, maybe something like two years older.

Then give me the exact page that says how old halflings get in dungeon meshi. Because halflings get older than humans in pretty much any setting and I don't recall this one being an exception.

Yeah, and they reach adulthood around 20 years. In Tolkiens works they can get older and take some more time to be considered an adult.

D&D has elves only be fully mentally mature at a hundred years old though.

I'm not going to track it down right now, but Meshi is one of the exceptions.
I'm doing a lot of re-reading right now and I'll let you know if I stumble on it

I think it's the chapter where they talk about changling race change age being proportional.

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Chilchack states that he's thirty nine in the mimic chapter, and he seems very bashful about it, I figure that meant he thought he was young?

No, because he's old.

I guess it could be, I mean he does have a wife and daughter, though I guess that really isn't that good of an indicator other than showing that he's comparatively over 18.

Comparatively he's the oldest in the party.

> elves live on average 750 years
> half elves live for 150

Man, half elves get fucked over hard.

Marcille: No sex until we get your sister back!
Laius: I guess I'll distract myself with monsters then.

They are considered mature in elven culture by 100 years, but that is a cultural thing. They mature as roughly as fast as humans and then stay relatively physical young.
Only dumb isekai do the
>1000 years old teenager elf

he's going to get sent to elf jail for trying to fuck a monster

he's 39 and she calls him an old fart
this is consistent with an age range roughly equaling human, or maybe shorter

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that's a D&Dism, we don't know how it works in Dungeon Meshi

I don't think meshi went that far by any means, or even that they follow the D&D rules that closely at all, but rather that say, at the time when Farlyn and Marcille were going to school, even though they were in the same classes and were ((reasonably)) similar mentally in development, Marcille was probably at least a decade or two ((maybe more)) older than Farlyn.

Seems like a reasonable enough system, but when it comes to fantasy ageing stuff there's almost always going to be weird kinks in logic.

>Farlyn running up to mace the guy Laius is allowing to beat him up
I get that making the reader wish Farlyn was in the party is a great way of building her character and making the reader care despite her almost never actually being on-page
but fuck I wish Farlyn was in the party
He's 28, the halfling equivalent to a human's early 30s. She's just young and doesn't like his mature attitude.

I always imagined it like with a mouse that gets born, grows up and dies within a year. The way they feel time is completely different from ours. But it gets confusing with races who are the same level of intelligence who interact with each other. 500 year old elves should have a level of knowledge we can't even imagine.

average american died around 70-80 fyi

And I don't see any reason to assume that it works differently. This is mostly based on wizardry anyway, which is based on D&D.
We see them physically mature alongside. It makes more sense for them to be roughly the same age. Marcilles entire character doesn't really work if she was several decades later.

I love how it's shown more than once, too, I wonder if Farlyn ever actually carried a mace/flail?

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28 not 39

I'd rather expect Marcille to be the elven equivalent of 16-17 (they might go through childhood and puberty a bit slower, judging from the Canaries surprise at Kabrau's adulthood). While Farlyn went from being Marcille's kohai to sempai and then a young adult, Marcille is still stuck in her "seventeens". Of course, she's still adult enough to make her own decisions and go adventuring, but biologically speaking her body is very "young" by elven standards. Hence the chubbiness.

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I don't see any reason to assume that it works the same as a system written in a different language from the one the author writes
D&D is not popular in Japan
Dungeon Meshi is based on Wizardry anyway

And with "chubbiness" I mean that chubby ears is the elven equivalent of being baby faced. The lenght and pointiness of ears is probably how you tell elven age. They don't reach full size and pointiness before adulthood.

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not a dndthread, fatguy

Elves suddenly got really scary how innocently they let other races rot away because time doesn't affect them.

>kohai to sempai
I mean, she outgrew her, but she wouldn't be above her in classes.

>I don't see any reason to assume that it works the same
How about them both maturing physically at the same rate and Marcilles overall inexperience with things that are not school?
>D&D is not popular in Japan
You are wrong.
>Dungeon Meshi is based on Wizardry anyway
I already said that.

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One-handed blunt weapons are iconic on clerics, and it's the only thing she's ever armed with, so I'm sure she did.
Maybe she kept losing them and replacing them with an even goofier one. Maybe her swinging a meat tenderizer on the cover isn't just a cooking joke.

It's still weird. Maybe they age slower physically but they still have 10 times the time to learn things than other races.

>I don't see any reason to assume that it works differently
The default position would be not to just lift the rules from another work. That's the reason to assume that.
Are you one of those people that calls dragons with winged forelimbs "wyverns"?

I can't exactly hate them for it since they genuinely just don't seem to grasp the time difference, but I mean, in that case they SHOULD just keep their noses out of other races businesses to begin with.

reminder that average life span and potential life span are different

They're physically teenagers when graduating, when their human classmates are already into adulthood.
There's a level of mastery above that that only a long-lived race like elves can reach.

I was speaking of it more in how Marcille's attitude has changed towards Farlyn. When they first meet, she acts like an upperclassman (understandable since she was apparantly doing a thesis while Farlyn was a first-year student). In current time, the dynamic seems to have switched around and Marcille is a bit deferential to Farlyn. Though Marcille might be Farlyns senior in magic, she probably feels she's her junior as a woman.

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Not even for herself, but so the people around her don't have to die, which is exactly what Thistle did to the castle town.

>humans and halflings actually have identical potential lifespans
>halflings just die on average 10 years early because they're halfmen living in a wholeman's world

I didn't get that impression at all.
To me it seemed she looked down on her at first impressions, but saw her worth while in school, and they're equals now.

I guess so, Marcilles got some harsh lessons ahead I bet.

>The default position would be not to just lift the rules from another work
And the default position is also not
>elves are all 1000 years plus old because elves
There is no good reason to assume that Marcille is so much older. There is no good hard fact that indicates this. We see her physically mature alongside Farlyn. Her inexperience in a lot of things is part of Marcilles character.

Cabron has ulterior motives for wanting Laius to succeed.

This within the first few days Marcille was in that class ((seemingly)) Farlyn opened her eyes about the scope of the world and the nature of dungeons and Marcille gained a lot of respect for her.

As it is, I don't know exactly if Marcille should be considered the 'senior' in magic since they're two different classes, Marcille is more fire/explosions/burst damage in general use with the added dark arts knowledge, while Farlyn is more protection and healing.

Marcille even said that Farlyns protection magic was high level shit that she wasn't trained to replicate.

>Marcille is more fire/explosions/burst damage in general use with the added dark arts knowledge
She also uses stunning spells, healing magic, protection magic, resurrection knows a lot about magic theory. Most other mages we see only use some specific spells. She is a better mage than people give her credit for.

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I like this explanation. Marcille's age always felt weirdly ambiguous and un-Kuilike.

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He's a good leader, and that's what really matters.

I think the jist of it is that he wants the dungeon to not be a threat anymore so that Utaya 2.0 doesn't happen, but he also doesn't want it to be taken away by the elves to leave humanity without any means to grow and potentially take care of it themselves, if they just keep letting the elves take away their artefacts/knowledge/dungeons, then they'll always stay as children in terms of understanding.

We didn't land on Michel Delving, Michel Delving landed on us.

> healing magic, protection magic

Her healing magic and protection magic are extremely bare bones though, I imagine most decent mages know this stuff if they're going to adventure places.

And 'resurrection' I'd put as part of her dark arts knowledge.

so its kinda like medicine/science university then
everyone learn a bit of everything at the start, then specialize into what they like/ what they are strong at later. Marcille go full offensive, while Farlyn go the cleric route (with bonus str stat. dem northerner gene)

Makes sense, as it is, both of them are still extremely skilled in their own rights, I just wouldn't put one above the other considering they basically just spec'd into different classes.

I'm starting to think that Farlyn is a lost cause...

>Her healing magic and protection magic are extremely bare bones though
Compared to what? Her protection magic saved their lives during the dragon fight and we've never saw anyone healing as fast as her even the most grievous injuries.

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How much longer will the series go for? I know it's hard to say but if it maintains 12 chapters a year it could easily be a decade before it ends

It really feels like it's on its last arc. If the dragon fight closed the first third and the name drop the second, we've only got a year or two left.

*teleports behind you into a wall*

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>A year or two, that doesnt sound so bad...
>Its monthly

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>izutsumi will never count your nipples

Glorious ass reader.

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and it's 10 chapters a year, there's always two breaks. I've been with this since the living armor, I'm used to it. It's nice to have a constant.

What a chad.

If Marcille, being as smart and reasonably prideful as she is, calls her healing work lousy, I'm generally going to take her word for it.

So I guess halfings are generally like people in that they CAN live for around 100 years, but generally don't. I wonder if their average is based on medieval health problems or maybe if halflings are more prone to weak health past their 40's or something?

You know, out of everything that's happened, I think this is still my favorite character interaction.

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It gets harder to avoid the mimics.

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>Human's average is 60
probably just medieval health problem
and why is she thinking of that ... "abomination" when talking about halkling that like to a hundred?

>average lifespan
>some halflings live that long
So they just suck at living.

You know, sometimes I think you guys just think too much into it.

Kui's a smart cookie, she leaves these sorts of things around for us to find.

Considering they're a lightweight people that are more or less physically children their whole lives it makes sense their average is low.

I'm not optimistic in your case, but you realize that the BRAIN also needs to physically develop?
You could spend a year or 100 years hammering basic algebra into a 5 year old, as long as their brain stayed stuck at 5 years developed you're just spinning wheels. You're right, that IS critically retarded, literally the formal fucking definition of retarded, being less developed than you should be for your age.

So when a magical fairy fucking species lives for 500 years, over 5x average modern humans, why should their development and age qualifications for being bona-fide retarded be the exact same as ours?

Elves taking 50 years to mature into adulthood doesn't necessarily mean they get a human 18 year old brain when they're 18, then spend the next 30 years amassing otherworldly knowledge so they end up as some lolibaba bullshit. It could just mean that they have decades of nonsense-filled childhood they'll barely remember when they're older, shotgun through puberty by developing at the same rate as a human, then spend another few decades stalled in a nonsense-filled young adulthood, etc.

What was he thinking eating that parasite raw?

Why not just hit it with your weapon first?

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>he get more and more devilish/evil looking as time went on
lockmaster sure is some soul-crushing job

It's a good thing that Kui is a smart author that wouldn't do dumb shit like that.

Marcille sees him as a dunce tho (her wersion of him, in the fake party chapter) At the beginning I was also treating them as the endgame, because they were both young and attractive, but as series goes on it's clear they are just good companions. It's nice, makes the story more fresh.
Samurai Jack is crushing on Farlyn and Kabaru has his tsundere.
I am curious if Farlyn-Marcille is going to be a ship thing, tho right now I don't see the sexual love, just love as in close friendship. Maybe one sided crush from elf.
I would like Laius to find love interest, he is so goofy and awkward, with random /'serious modes" it would be comedy gold.

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he is a stupid and curious man.

This aint exactly like Dark Souls, in this mimics are basically just crabs. You might be able to make it come out by bashing it but like we saw in the mimic chapter itself, that might NOT be the best idea since you could still easily get your insides snipped out. You don't really want a mimic chasing you.

I think it is intentionally them at different years mixed together. There is also boy Laius with Kensuke which is also anachronic, so it is probably Marcille around the age she met Farlyn but adult Farlyn (in the priest/adventurer robe).

I wonder if either Chill or Cat are also deaged there. Maybe cat is enough of a kiddo on her own normal state to fit the theme.

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Bad hitbox.

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Hard to say for sure though since Marcille is wearing her dungeon clothes there.

Honestly speaking she's leaning forward a fair bit + has her head on a weird angle in that picture, I think if she were standing up straight there would just be the normal half a head-ish difference between them.

>Father and pet bird die when shes a kid ((potentially of old age, her mom tells her that she 'runs at a different pace' than others during her dads funeral and Laius also makes the assessment during the nightmare that her dad must've died 'very young'))

Her father dying young can't mean anything else but a sickness/accident/violent death, user. Dying young is the clear opposite of dying of age, for fucks sake. Dunno why people keep thinking about that.

Course Marcille has the people die trauma, but that doesn't need this nonsense construction.

most elves that are beyond 80 years are usually portraited as "wise elves" that just keep amassing knowledge as time go by. its like you have the pristine mind of a 20 year old, for a couple of decade. you can just learn whatever you want with that young brain of yours
their early development can be stunted, yes, and can be explained by the secluded nature of elves.
Races that live for 500 years in medieval fantasy setting are always a lil bit bullshit-y tho, even in-setting. people somehow stay in the medieval age for millenia, and even if you go as generous as 1.500 years, thats like a couple generations of elves. they literally see dozens of civilizations rise and fall in one lifetime. no wonder they are so tired of human's bullshit

If her dad was a human, hasn't been denied, then he would have died very young of old age.

How would that be stupid. The brain of a child is LITERALLY INCAPABLE of doing some stuff the brain of an adult can. Being a child and being a retard is very similar in that way. If a race of long lived elves mature physiologically at another rate, it's reasonable to assume that their brain structures will also lag behind. This might mean that a 30 year old elf is still missing vital reasoning abilities.

you are seeing the wrong thing -
look how LAIUS is blushing looking at Izutsumi being all cute. Him having an affectionate side is way more shocking

this, i think it's just a perspective thing, also laius was the one who said it, so he doesn't know anyway.

I mean automatically assuming that an elf would wildly fluctuate between physical and mental growth instead of just a normal maturity unless it's deliberately stated to not be the case.

Ok. Yeah I'd expect that if elves matured more slowly, they'd be stuck in awkward kid bodies longer as well.

It's because Izutsumi is a monster.

Like Marcille is, poor thing.

It's no more or less dumb than aging like a human to 20, and then spending the next 300 fucking years amassing knowledge with the mind of a young adult. It's totally inconsequential - whether they spend 10, 50, or 100 years as stupid children is meaningless because they still get several 100 years to become all knowing demi-gods while mostly ending up as obnoxious hippies.

>hasn't been denied
There is no need to. The default assumption is that her father was an elf like most elf children have an elven father and mother.
>also laius was the one who said it
Marcille doesn't object it. She is basically telling her entire backstory, so she wouldn't let that one slip. That is the Watsonian perspective. The Doylist perspective is that Kui wrote that deliberately there for you to read and learn something about her backstory. So far in this work does she not use any red herrings or lie to the reader. So unless you can bring up a good argument that her father did not die while being quit young, it is the logical assumption that he in fact did.

Note how Sureau has red cheeks (blushes about boobies) but Marcille has blue forehead reaction (oh no no no damn, what the hell are you doing, guys can see!)

Sure, it's logical, but we're in the process of suspending judgment. We believe all the ideas that could be in any way correct, at the same time, keeping them in a sort of quantum state where we can use them all to process incoming information.
tl;dr stop being autistic

Haha, there is Namari trying to tackle him/push him away but you can only see the hands.

it's more about them not being dissed for being gay/gayish. If dude is gay it's like "ew, contageous, ew gay parades" If it's a girl it's "wow hot, wow dude that will marry her will sure be lucky"

>while mostly ending up as obnoxious hippies
I see you got your idea of elves form bad memes and retarded isekai.
>It's totally inconsequential
It's absolutely consequential if you need to spend decades for your elf children to being able to use the toilet then you spend so much more time on it until it can join the workforce, military, spend time researching, basically being a contributing member of society. Elves that would need decades to reach anything comparable to human-like physical and mental maturity would get crushed in no time by any other races. That is why most settings simply don't do it this way.

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this

>Originally I was like 99% sure that the finale was going to have to be about not repeating the mad sorcerer's mistakes and just learning when to let the people we love go.

Not sure, because the resurrection thing is too common in its setting so it would be a bit arbitrary, and second, ressurecting her is the main goal of the manga at the start, so that makes it less likely to just go for the ages-old "imortality/bringing people back bad mkay" moral.

>stop making sense you autist
Fuck off normalfag.

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>Elves that would need decades to reach anything comparable to human-like physical and mental maturity would get crushed in no time by any other races.
That's why you don't see too many around today.

Dwarves on the other hand

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I mean it makes sense when you consider that in many works of fiction, including this one, elves are usually a very isolated race that usually have lands that are entirely under their jurisdiction and which they control the coming and goings of, so that even if they are generally useless in their first 50-ish years till they're teens or maybe 100 years till their adults, they can be protected and once they reach adulthood its like 600+ more years of gaining knowledge and power, that shit would add up.

Marcille's nightmare monster in lower left.

100 isn't that old either compared to an elf. Maybe theres a way to extend life with magic.

>i'll never leave her behind again until she finds someone new she want to be with
as a brother, this hurt so fucking much man

>Because this author likes her tragedies.
>bittersweet or realistically melancholic endings
I'm not familiar with her other works, but are those comedy genre?

If they were having wars of attrition with the other races, yeah, goblins inherit the earth, but if they've got 500yo strategic nuclear mages then they've got options.

Interesting, even though in her dreams Laius explained it as 'things passing away before she does' which would be the opposite here now that she's a Halfling, I guess it's still generally more of a 'fear of old age death' thing.

She's just done short stories other than this. Some are comedic, some are tragic, most are both, some are just cute.

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Averages usually get pushed down by other factors too like high infant death rates or wars. It's not under perfect conditions.

Elves, with their lifelong experience, wont allow a war of attrition, full stop. they will literally cull the herds preemptively so that everything is under their control

Potentially, we know Thistle achieved this more or less with the curse they put on the people of the old castle, but its hard to say whether something like that would work outside of a dungeon.

Maybe there's magical artefacts n forbidden spells that can do it, but elves keep pretty strict oversight on that stuff from what we've seen.

tfw no mer gf

We don't even know if the elves are isolated. But we do know that they have a very far reach and that this island was once theirs. They warred with the dwarves. Many works of fiction are full with elves warring with various races and not only dumb woodniggers that stay in one forest that never gets attacked. Again it's just dumb assumptions about things we don't know but it may suit your argument how elves are in this instead of just taking the obvious: she about the same age as Farlyn, maybe some years older.

that monster represents death

It's the critter dogLaius saved her from in the nightmare chapter, representing mortality (specifically, the mortality of anyone she comes to care for from a shorter-lived race). The root of it is a memory of her mother telling her she needs to get used to losing people due to her long lifespan, while at her father's funeral (which is why people speculate her father was human and she's a half-elf).
This and her ancient magic obsession is why people speculate that she could become the next mad sorcerer, since the motives are identical to Thistle's.

>tfw hippie elves hit the common imagination because Lorien elves live in treehouses
>tfw Poul Anderson coastal raider viking elves never get copied

no, they trust him a lot. They are just afraid of his quirks

Why are you forcing this half human theory just because her ears are slightly different? Do we even know if mixed races exist?

>get crushed in no time by the other races
wow, it's almost like elves are the most magically powerful race for some reason

No, Laius made that assumption at first but was wrong, mainly figured out because the monster didn't affect her when it was sucking things in.

The map cover from an earlier chapter stated that at the very least, the continent where the canaries originally came from had a racial distribution of 80% elves and 20% other races, so I'd say majority wise they're pretty isolated.

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>We don't even know if the elves are isolated.
No but it's kinda implied since they know so little about other races.

does it matter? it hasn't been outright denied so people just speculate as they like

Yes that's why it's wrong to want to fuck elves. Bloody Lodoss for tossing both of them at the token hero and antihero as some status/quest reward, respectively.

I'm not forcing it, I don't even like it, I'm just saying it would settle that apparent contradiction. Right now I'm sold on Marcille's ears being plump because she's an elf teenager. We don't know if mixed races exist, no.

Is there any other manga out there with a similar style of visual gags?

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Marcille doesn't fear her own mortality in the dream, which is why death has no hold on her there, but it still represents all death, as it was used to represent her own mortality (the spectre of which was just raised) on this page

Speculations are fine but every thread there is someone acting like it's canon.

Half-elves don't exist in wizardry, so there is that.

Golden Kamui has a lot of them

Just telling you what the manga literally says user, Laius thinks it's death, but then he sees that Marcille isn't drawn in by it + is confused about the nature of the monster, then Marcille talks about the whole 'outpacing people' thing and makes the apparent deduction that it's not as simple as it JUST being death she's afraid of.

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the different forms of death all wear the same face, as a simplification for the reader

*and he makes the apparent deduction

Believe what you want about it user, just saying, thats the explanation that Laius came to believe at the final part of the dream, if you think he's wrong then go ahead, just stating a fact that its what was said.

he's not wrong, it's just that it also represents a different form of death in this panel
you're the one with the stick in your butt that says it can't be both

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I wanna cuddle huggle those silly cute halffoots/halflings/hobbits.

>I don't think I could handle this series having a downer ending though.
Except it's perfectly alright when Marcille does it. The entire party can easily adjust to living in a cool dungeon. Chill will live on top with his family and visit from time to time.

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I'm only saying its what the manga said it was, like I said, you can believe otherwise if you want.

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Yep, direct DnD influence, no doubt (I don't know if the blunt weapons only restriction for clerics is in Wizardry.) Meshi never uses the word cleric and calls Farlyn a mage but you can see how the "not-clerics" are distinctively different, they tend to have the beret and different robe. The religion is never mentioned in Meshi too. So maybe they would be seen more like nature mages but the cleric traits are there (turn undead powers).

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> meshi never uses the word cleric
It does, though maybe thats just the english translation taking liberties? I've never seen the raws to check.

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i want to point out the great creativity in food in early volumes, The armor mollusk stunned me.

She says she isn't as good as Farlyn but then she says she is extra good ad making the healing go fast. So the downside isn't that her cure spells are weak, it's that they hurt like hell and such. So it's lousy, but still as effective as any. After all, she attached Laius's leg back like nothing. Maybe she just has her priorities a bit fucked (get results fast, to hell with comfort).

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Yeah, I miss learning more about the dungeon ecosystem. Feels like it's all just been mushrooms lately.

Feels like healing wounds really fast isn't a skill to be that proud of...

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She'll be an excellent torturer for the Canaries.

I thought the flyfish familiar thing that marcille made being turned into fish and chips was pretty smart, what with all the ingredients it was built out of being fused together as its innards.

That, and the griffon/hypogriff mixup was interesting as well from a meat perspective, even if the meal was simple.

I'm guessing they'll get back to other food now that Marcille can make up an antidote to the changeling spores, that, or they may use the spores to swap ingredients out for others, which could be interesting in its own right as well.

we're finally getting back to the main party, and they're at the deepest level that no adventurer's ever been to. I'm sure we'll see something new.

I like how coinbugs can be sweet and made into a jam too. The sorbet chapter crack me up at the recipe
>Holy water: 1 jar
>Holy rope: to use
>Ghost: 5-6

>Marcille has been the source of comedy for the longest time, mainly due to aversion to weird food
>Eventually starts to be accepting of cooked monsters and whatnot (last time she freaked out was Barometz?)
>Cat joins, new to all this dungeon food, doesn't like veggies to boot
>Marcille still manages to be the source of comedy

I think Kui just loves to make fun of her that much, and I wouldn't change it for the world

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>(I don't know if the blunt weapons only restriction for clerics is in Wizardry.)
It is.

>she needs to get used to losing people due to her long lifespan

>which is why people speculate her father was human and she's a half-elf.

If she was a half elf, she wouldn't really have a long lifespan, people.

I mean by dnd rules its written to be 'often exceeding 180 years

that's long enough for you to have at least like two generations of human friends die on you.

Longer than yours, mayfly.

Maybe she's a Noldor and she'll watch other elves die. Maybe she's a 400yo teenager.

I can't believe Kabru is fucking dead!

It isn't her death in the dream, because she is young and doesn't think of it yet. But it suddenly gets her when she changes into a halfling and suddenly has like fraction of her life left. It's somehting like when they tell you you have AIDS and got say 10 years left. If you are 25 at that time, you lived as if you were immortal up till that point and it would be quite a a shock.

thats a lot of assumption there.

Halflings are fucking cute. Makes me scarred to think they could be sexualised.

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It's okay to sexualize a middle aged old fart like Chilchack.

Well it could be critical. For example with amputations and quick blood loss, it seems like a very advantageous, precious ability.

>tfw no wise oni gf

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Eh, I mean in dungeons its not that vital.

180 is nothing, it doesn't really give you a "everyone dies while you will be here forever" perspective at all

No, that is how it always is in life.

how could anyone hate her, she eats like Goku
the classical hallmark of a good character

Yeah, this is the dumbest part. This is about her being an elf in an non-elfen land. The father isn't even the important part.

>elf in non-elven land
>has to clean other people's houses to make ends meet
I bet the canaries think she's wetback emigre trash.

lol

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>tfw no mommy elf

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Hmm, I guess eventually the mages got more nuances but Farlyn was still clearly portrayed after the classical cleric, while the others look like variations of "arcane" spellcasters.

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Hmm, I should reread this whole thing carefully. I never noticed so many things, like the snowman Senshi made having ees from treasure bugs and so on, or there being huge boogeyman spiders under Marcilles's bed.

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>every thread there is someone acting like it's canon
Literally has never once happened. What does happen every time is a waifufag getting mysteriously butthurt that his waifu might possibly be a hafu.
It's even more mysterious that they get like this over speculation that she could be a half-elf and not speculation that she might go bonkers and try to take over as the next mad sorcerer.
Why do anons keep defaulting to the rules of a setting that Meshi is not based off of in any way? This actually happens every thread, and for many topics, unlike anyone claiming half-elf Marcille is canon.

bottom left is some sort of druid

>everybody is an autist except for me, reeeee

>Feels like it's all just been mushrooms lately.
But those are my favorites...

maybe a gnome elementalist of some sort
>controling a ball of water/Undine
>a bottle of wind
>a jar of oil(?)
>earth golem cores

They also die quickly they truly are human shaped hamsters.

When criticizing Marcille's fast, yet painful, healing you have to ask yourself "how long does the comfortable healing take?"

I believe there's actually two major schools of magic, who each have a bunch of offshots. The basic variants are elven and gnomish magic, as created by the old superpowers the elven kingdom and the dwarf/gnome alliance.

Elven is a bit more arcane, while gnomish (which was Farlyn's major) is more "divine", which practically speaking this means that the elven magic seem to focus more on fire and lightning while gnomish magic seem to focus more on healing, protection and earth magics.

We got a few variants though, like druidism (which seem to be a branch of gnomish magic focusing on working with elementals) and eastern magics (which might actually be unique for all we know).

Known practitioners:

Elven:
>Marcille
>Lynn
>Laius
>The Canaries (possibly. They also seem to use ancient magic)

Gnome:
>Farlyn
>That guy in Kabrau's party with the water elemental

beautiful and powerful oni who knows how to eat properly

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>Literally has never once happened
Maybe if this is your first dungeon meshi thread.

judging by Farlyn's work, comfortable healing is faster than Marcille's healing

What chapter does that happen on? Also, are the wounds as severe as the ones that Marcille heals?

Farlyn is another beast in that regard
she eject ghosts out of stolen bodies without any real incarnation, so her skill in divine magic is off the roof
I like to think of the 2 schools of healing magic as medical practice
>Farlyn's is the soft, non-invasive one. Good for people who still have a lot of time, while improving their QoL
>Marcille's is the emergency kind, the "you can break some ribs during CPR, as long as that fucker live"

When you're bleeding out on the floor you probably take anything.

>everybody
Just you, actually.
It's only ever anons discussing the possibility and some waifufag sperging about how it's not canon.
t. posted in at least 20something threads

>Abandon her slave friend in the middle of a dungeon

Oni Marcille is superior.

Now that you mention it, Laius didn't even yell out in pain when his leg was re-attached, so let's ask the question that's been asked before.

Is this guy even human?

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I think they are both using the same healing spell, Farlyn is just better at it.

It had nothing to do with monsters or eating monsters, he didn't care.

that is kind of fucked up, actually
unless she's just a dumb puppy fully loyal to the harem master

To be fair he's probably still in shock and high on adrenaline at that point.

I don't think they are using the same spell, not really. They are entirely different types as far as how they go about casting spells. Farlyn does everything by feel, while Marcille does it by an exacting process.

He was suffering quite the major injury. Perhaps he was pumping out so much adrenaline he wasn't feeling pain yet.

God I hope Laius and the Mad Sorcerer have a chance to discuss just so Thistle can be creeped out.

He's a knight. maybe his constitution is pretty good
but then there's Senshi. What's his build anyway? full Cha? Cck?

True Marcille-is-halfelfism has never been tried

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He's still powered up from being in close proximity to a high-class monster. He's a mutant whose monster autism subconsciously emits magical enhancement fields whenever confronted with anything monster-related.

That's just their personal approach to understanding magic though. Farlyn is an intuative learner, while Marcille hits the books.

They do use different systems of magic, but I think the actual healing spell is basically identical (heck, Marcille might even be borrowing the spell from the gnomish system, since she doesn't seem completely unaware of it and she mentioned it wasn't her forte). The effect is the same, but Marcille just accomplishes the bare minimum (seal the wound) while Farlyn is more practiced and doesn't discomfort her patient.

>some waifufag
>unlike anyone claiming half-elf Marcille is canon
I picked some out our strawmen out for you

Nothing like a full page panel to make you remember just how beautiful this manga really is

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Being a good or bad spellcaster might also impact on mana expenditure. Maybe Farlyn is more effective at using powerful healing with little mana.

Yeah the art in this chapter was really outstanding.

The dwarves are strong but have awful stamina.

well look beyond "sealing the wound" for me
maybe its just that she doesnt really know how to balance the "pain reduction" and "healing" components of the spell, being a bookworm. While Farlyn is way more sympathetic, so her balance is much better

BTW, did you guys notice Senshi wore a strawhat over his helmet when gardening on golems?

Also, what is the last percent of golem made off?

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>I picked some out our strawmen out for you
user, please calm down and finish your conniptions before trying to type.

our some of your
I'm glad I made you glad I fucked out typing on the formal level so that you can feel like you aren't actually retarded on the level of meaning.

yes. When he took it off, itstill had the holes on it. Kui is meticulous at those small detail
>!%
the sweats of gnomes who were forced to work overtime
since they are semi-living with some sentient and self-preservation instinct, i wont be surprise if there's some of that FMA philosopher stone shits in it

Senshi is jap for "Warrior", and it's the name of the Fighter class in Wizardry.
This part seemed clumsy and nonsensical to me. I can't find anything in Wizardry about dwarves getting any kind of endurance debuff, and considering Wizardry dwarves are a straight rip of Tolkien dwarves, they should have superb stamina from mining constantly. Most Tolkien-derived dwarves get a racial bonus to endurance. We've already seen that Mesh's dwarves are as mining-obsessed as usual, so why would they have significantly worse stamina than humans?

>our some of your
>I fucked out typing
>on the level of meaning
user, please, you need to stop physically shaking with rage if you want to be understood.

They have long lifespans since they have to take a lot of breaks.

>When he took it off, it still had the holes on i
I didn't notice he takes it off in any panel, nor it having been seen lying somewhere separately.
I wondered if the 1% was actually meant to be dung, but Marcille didn't want to admit it.

Dude, I come here to relax after mental work, while you probably have too much time at your hands or something.
Too bad it doesn't make me wrong, kiddo. And it doesn't mean you are any less full of shit.

You never noticed that people that point out spelling mistakes and the like do it because they have no real argument? It's kinda embarrassing when these shitters do that not realizing how it makes them look.

You're the only one sperging out, friend.

You're right, user, I'm the one who should be embarrassed. I'm glad you settled down some.

I just caught up on this manga after not reading it for two years or something and man did I forget how much I loved it. I hate monthly releases but at the same time they continue to deliver excellent quality so I have to deal with it

>but Marcille just accomplishes the bare minimum (seal the wound)
You're giving her too little credit there, Marcille literally reattached Laius' severed leg. That said, it seems like the Gnomish school is better for healing and resurrection, since Marcille (who is otherwise an incredibly skilled elvish school mage by Lynn's estimation) can only do simple resurrections and Lynn presumably can't do resurrections at all (since Kabru and Holm chose to heal Maizuru instead of her)

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>Idly scratches his leg until it bleeds later

Kabru's a bro in the end. Didn't expect that

Fat lady ain't sung yet.

Is it a crime to a cat?

Bestiality is still a thing

no but she'll scratch the fuck out of you firstly in pain then in pleasure

Mad sorcerer and thistle is the same person

senshi is surprisingly moe

All the damn characters are moe. The entire manga is made of moe.

>finally home after 12 hours in the cage
>mr goldberg is garnishes my wages again
>honestly thinking of ending it
>oh wow new dungeon meshi
>wow, she turned into an ogre
>I wish I could smell her ogre armpits after stirring that cauldron
>time to hit up the thread with my user bros
>this is exactly what I needed
>nothing could ruin this ni-
>user is questioning the racial purity of Marcille again
no wonder you lost it

They're still in the dungeon so even if he does die it's not a big deal, but he had the mushroom teleported into his leg in one panel so he may be ripped into a few pieces which is bad news

Nah, she was teleporting Cabroni, not the mushroom, so there's a leg-shaped piece of shroom out there rather than a shroom-shaped piece of leg.

Did you guys notice how he's the only one to be getting pantyshots?
You really fancy our importance if you think some rando could make me angry or anything. Not in the morning before I had any caffeine at all.

BTW, last user that threw a fit about my lack of spelling or sentence structure being fucked up was the Bitch-kun persona from Nanoha threads. Nut sore if that is the cumpany yoo want to be in.

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Marcille’s Laius is the one with Farlyn facial features.

What do you mean? The mushrooms in his leg and it looks like he's missing half his body

Forgot pic

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His leg is in the mushroom and his body is fine.

When she warped down with Kabru, she swapped him with 95% air and 5% mushroom. The part of the mushroom that occupied the space where his leg ended up is probably on top of the pillar.

She looks terrified.

nah, per the rule, if his leg was teleported out, the feet and stuffs will be severed alr, not clinging to him like that
he was just teleported onto a shroom, so like teleporting into a wall, theres a leg-shaped shroom part somewhere

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What are you talking about, Kabru is obviously taking the loss of his foot with signature aplomb, just like Laius did after the dragon. It's like poetry.

Her recently unrecoverably dead friend just tried a huge mana transfer, that shouldn’t happen.

What do you expect from the inevitable anime adaptation?

I don't think animation would do anything for Meshi. Getting the voices right would be too hard for most studios to start with.

Kui won't let it happen but
>CGI food
>CGI monsters
>CGI sword-swinging Laius
>Unbelievably amped-up color palette
>Dramatic angles from comic traded for workmanlike cinematography
>Kraken fight in ep 12

his leg is inside the shroom. If it was the "mushroom teleported inside him" his feet under the shroom would fall off (and so would the mushroom). There's a hole through which his leg goes.

Reminder that the captain teleported away because you can't see his legs in the third panel.

The reason why Kui bothered to leave the shroom on Kabru until the very end is because he'll have to eat it to survive.

I wondered about that. Could have just flailed in such a way that he isn't seen at the moment. If it happened, this is how I would sneakilly draw it, tho.
It would be the first time he teleported himself btw.

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He teleported into the brick wall.

>It would be the first time he teleported himself btw.
Yep, until now he always teleported other things. This is also probably why it was hidden since it was the first time he did it.
I bet that's the reason why he would rarely do it, even if the chances are low a fuck up with it means certain death for himself.

He can teleport himself with other people. theres no reason he cant do it alone

Wait, ignore what I said. He did teleport himself+Kabru when they got off the pillar at the start of the chapter. see

The question is, where did Captain teleport TO

Find out next month (or maybe not if it's focused on Laius and co.).

to our main party probably where else would he go

aren't we having a break?

That's next month? Oh damn.

Nah, the month after.

Oh, you are right. Also it is possible that he teleported right before Farlyn slashed her claw into where he was.

I guess whether he teleported or not and where he ended will depend on what the author wants to do. It seemed to make sense for them two to disappear down there and the rest of the party having to go down to look for them.

He's full autismo but he's also so hot

>lost technology level
>probable chance for encountering hostile machines
Can you cook a robot?

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>Can you cook a robot?
No

maybe they won't cook it, but they'll use it's components to make new cookware, like an oven or something

Reminder that Chilchack is the best boy.

It's funny how even back when this first chapter people thought about the dragon meat they ate and why it wasn't forced out of them.

>It's funny how even back when this chapter first came out*
fixed

I feel like Sureau fell in love with Farlyn the first time from that campfire scene when he saw her observing that caterpillar rather than from a love at first sight kind of thing, though.

>Marcille sees him as a dunce tho (her wersion of him, in the fake party chapter) At the beginning I was also treating them as the endgame, because they were both young and attractive, but as series goes on it's clear they are just good companions. It's nice, makes the story more fresh.
Well, there was that flustered reaction of hers when she thought Lauis was about to comment on her appearance when she was dressed up in the ghost villagers' designed clothes. Aside from that, romance definitely isn't a thing in this manga.

Elf afraid to experiment with dangerous shit, humans don't get to live too long so they aren't.

Imagine them rolling away animated, ideally to some tragic music.

>They defeat the Mad Sorcerer, rescue Farlyn, and make it back to the surface
>Party can finally split up and get some well-deserved rest without needing to worry about food, water or monsters
>Marcille grabs Laius by the plate armor and power walk to the nearest inn

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>Farlyn never smile again

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The elf on the far left has the perfect expression of someone who just watched a boss they never liked fall into a bottomless pit.

Just hire the voice actors behind Dragon's Crown

>heard you were talking shit about elves

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>not joining in for a 3some
with Marcille being the one spit-roasted, ofc

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Which is the best meshi though?

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I love how she enjoys watching this shitshow unfold.

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One everybody talks about, of course.
Comedy pillar of the thing of course.

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Wait, is there anymore of these "puns" or sth like this in their name?
Is Chilchack name basically the sound of locks opening?

Marcille is my favorite character as well, but I'm certain that poster didn't mean characters, but "meshi". Meals.

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>certain death for himself
Teleporting into a brick wall wouldn't kill him, since he could teleport elsewhere before he suffocated. The only way it could be really lethal for him is if he teleported into a substance that would kill him with brief exposure, or disorient him sufficiently that he couldn't gets his wits about him to teleport again.

The shapeshifting chapter says otherwise

The cute Senshi gags get me every damn time.

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or just the most rookie mistake of all: out of mana

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so to beat the dungeon they have to eat all the monsters. Thus the mana will go down and the dungeon will regress to a lower level and will not spill out.
Farming dungeons for food is the best way to control them

Senshi truly was a visionary.

>Dungon-boss not so tough after being Elf-molested

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oh.
I wonder what was the most lolwut one. Maybe the heads or the sauerkraut but that was with the pickle press joke. The mimic cooking inside the chest in the oneshot wasn't bad either.

The true meshi was the fun you had when getting the ingredients.

Important question: is Cat still growing?

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Of course. Her other three pairs of breasts haven't even begun filling in yet.

god I love this manga

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*licks your elf's ear*

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>Laius never tried to check how Marcille tastes
>Or he did, in her sleep

I really want to that cat.

at the very end of the manga, there should be an after-credits scene where these guys are still stuck in the walls in that room, with everybody having forgotten about their murderapists asses
:kabuki sounds:

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Wait, just how old is the bird lady? She does not seem to have aged a day.

She wears makeup. But probably fifty or so.

Remember when she got him to touch her ear?

>even the mad sorcerer is creeped out by Laius
The gags write themselves with good characters.

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>Elf party meets Laius
>Laius notice their notched ears and think they're injured
>Wants to heal them and put his palm to their ears
>Flustered elves tell him touching an elf's ears is the same as proposing

How is she so erotic?

So, since the Evil Sorcerer basically just needs a hug, we're going to have a happy ending where everyone is happy, right?

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>A literal sack
That always get me.

i wonder how many anons noticed anything except "Legs Legs Legs" from this picture

PUBIC HAIR

medieval panties man, panties

Also, adult Marcille was cute when running around and casting dark magic in them

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kui is a master

I like how Kui draws Farlyn's wings fold and stretch, along with the bulging muscles of the lower Chimera half. It really brings life to the manga.

Does she have a tattoo or marking on top of her nose or is that white thing just reflection?

>This part seemed clumsy and nonsensical to me.

Agreed. Possibly the only choice Ryoko has made in the entire comic that I disagree with.

>Senshi frowning at the lost dragon ham
It's the little things.

>unaging
>feathered sleeves
still betting she's a tengu in human guise

It's cute how the dolly has elf ears.
Extra cute how they're fat elf ears, so Marcille doesn't feel so bad about hers.

So what do Chilchacks's wife and kids think about his dungeoneering?

nice eyebrows

They think daddy's working a stuffy management position in some guild far away. He's not supposed to be underground rescuing a former employer's sister for no monetary compensation.

Chilchack is too pure for this world.

senshi
canonically the cutest and most handsome

i want to rape the elf by drugging the whole party, she will wake up to a staged orgy

notice how everyone has significantly sharper features as elves than marcille
in marcille's idealized thoughts of herself and her mother, she appears with sharper features just like these, implying that they're the elven standard of beauty
so marcille is an actual 4/10 as far as elves go

He's not pure at all. He probably fucked his wife in the butt.

>laius appears to age down as an elf
>izutsumi doesn't
does this means she's a good chunk older than him?

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>former
>for no monetary compensation
He was paid in advance before the group lost money/everything, said so himself. So he's still on payroll now and would have to at least return money if he wanted to quit.

Sexual dimorphism is probably reduced in elves.

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If you take the ears into account, there is no reason why she couldn't be considered an orc. Ugly big ear pig woman.

>I have looked through the gates of Heaven and seen only ash. God is dead and all that remains is the evil of man.

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Is this manga still a fucking edgefest? I think I stopped reading around ch.37.

And Laius appreciates a fine orc woman!
Coincidence?! I think not.

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But you know he'd rather fuck a chimera, Marcille doesn't even provide novelty for pervert.

He can't because that will be incest

man the artstyle was way more rough back then, i noticed that i while when i bought the localized version.

>that pantyshot

We see Senshi's bulge constantly.

Marcille has indeed nice, shapely legs, without going into thick territory.

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She has even shorter and less pointy ears as a kid, they probably get pointier with age.

Marcille hair like this again when

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Pussy hair
one job...

holy shit

>not changing the filename into "This is what Killing Bites is"

I am more disappointed in you than your own parents, user.

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My Little Sister Can't Be This Chimera!

That was bluff to disguise his charity. How long do you think he was contracted to work? Probably not enough to cover two expeditions deeper than they'd ever been before.
On top of that, he had every reason to pull out, whether or not that would mean returning a portion of his pay, when the job changed from a dangerous expedition to a suicidal expedition with no rations to defeat the monster that had already nearly killed them all when their party was twice its current size. For perspective, we have Namari behaving like a typically sensible adventurer and cutting loose from her employer's sinking ship.

Fuck Namari. Like father like daughter.

Be Chilchack
>have Marcille want to sleep in our bed
>have Cat want to sleep in your bed
>actually being married
>bet even the Kabruhobbit has hots for him now after being protected by him under the pot

>so marcille is an actual 4/10 as far as elves go
I really don't give a damn, I want a Marcille gf to make a whole magic school of half/quarter/three-fifth little elves.

Someone suggested making this meme in the previous threads so here you go.

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The elves are going to kill them for that

>only one R

>Fuck Namari
As soon as she redeems herself, absolutely.
That better be why she followed Kabru and the elves down, and not just as a cameo. If she just fucks off again now she will 100% be the worst character in DM.

She's unlucky in that Kui probably didn't count on her playing a further role and unlike Sureau, she didn't come up with reasons for completely retconning her "betrayal". Also once Sureau got changed to secretly looking for Farlyn on his own, it would be dumb to do the same with Namari and it left her with a pathetic part in the story. Kui tried to rationalize it with the Chil's explanation and the bad rep backstory but that was really impossible. It would have been better to pin it on something like her being convinced that the dragon can't be defeated and saying that anybody who goes after it will die.

cap teleported only himself at the end
Kabru got his mushroom friend on page 3.

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that's the page he got teleported into it - he is already under the pillar.

>be merc
>get paid to do job
>group cant pay me anymore
>outright say that the next run is a freebie
>autists mad that dorf merc wont risk her life for free

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Kui better draw his wife in the epilogue. Also want to see his tiny halfling daughter, ffs!

>dorf merc won't risk her life for free
>dorf merc plays no further part in the story
seems like a hollow victory, user

>be Chilchack
>be the jew of haflings
>still help the group

Dumb Farlyn, that chain is too long, you are going to hit your hand.

>tiny
She's probably a surly teenager.

He liked that bow.