>Eren Jaeger >Erwin Smith >Reiner Braun >germanic trairs such as blonde hair blue eyes and brown hair and green eyes >german op lyrics >centuries of colonialism and holocausts
They clearly represent some form of post colonialist germanic nation. The themes of the story involve the actual oppression post colonialist nations experience at the hands of their supposed victims. Which is on point for the japanese since korea and china are trying to oppress japan using post colonialist rhetoric
A bloo boo whoo, 6 billion Titancaust over 1800 years. Issa joke! DAS RITE! (das rite!) DAS RITE! HEIL YUMIR "The Fall of Lago" issa a damn joke! (das rite!)(heil YUMIR) YEAH, CRY MARLEYAN BOI HYEL YUMIR SHE DEVOURED YA'll, BECUZ Y'ALL WANTED TO BE INSIDE HER DAS WHY
Do you guys get fidgety and anxious if you don't perform your threadly ritualistic posting?
Sebastian Gutierrez
yes
Jordan Davis
Eldians are obviously stand-ins for Germans/Whites/Japs etc but this pasta is going to result in so much shitposting. It'll be exactly like what happened when that fag started posting about Hange and manlet non-stop. Most people agreed with him when he said he just wanted them to be safe and happy. Then came the counterspam. Why does everything here have to get memed to death?
It isn't. You just never received good guidance from your fathers so now you fill your days with waifufaggotry and pornbait threads to get some small measure of interaction.
Evan Rogers
>Mikasa covering her face with the scarf and pretending she's with Eren Kek
Jonathan Cook
For the “not 6mills”, I have two questions: does a lower numbers make you feel better? And what would be the real number of people killed during Holocaust?
Brayden Reyes
>tall Manlet Really a work of imagination
David Flores
>Gabi is an elite soldier selected to be a candidate to inherit The Armored Titan, tasked with defending Marley >able to spot Reiner lying about his stories on Paradis at dinnertime >displayed sharp thinking by taking out the armored train during the Fort Slava battle, using a dead SC soldier's 3DMG (who she sniped) to infiltrate the blimp during the Liberio attack, and escaping the prison on Paradis >highly athletic and capable melee fighter (considered far better than Falco, a boy) >showed maturity by breaking out of the Marleyan propaganda to understand that the Devils on Paradis are really human >consistently thrusted herself into deadly situations and proved herself to be an intelligent human > > > >""NOOOOO DONT SHIP HER WITH SOMEONE WHOS ONLY A FEW YEARS OLDER LIKE EREN ITD LITERALLY BE WORSE THAN DEATH YOU F*CKING SCUM YOU SHOULD BE CASTRATED, TURNED INTO A PURE TITAN AND SHIPPED TO PARADISE"" >""T-THERES NO WAY A YOUNG GIRL CAN BE EXCEPTIONALLY MATURE AND INTELLIGENT TO UNDERSTAND AND HANDLE RELATIONSHIPS AND INTIMACY WITH SOMEONE WITH 3/10 WITS""
That's changing the issue. The number isn't the issue, the criminalization of scrutiny over it and the control exerted by state propaganda are what it's all about. And no, I couldn't care less if there number was lower or higher because the ones that should've been killed clearly didn't.
Ethan Price
>does a lower numbers make you feel better? Are you telling me a smaller number of people dying doesn't make you feel better? Are you a national socialist by any chance?
>does a lower numbers make you feel better? It brings me great amusement to see the 6-million-tarians flip out whenever their sacred dogma is opposed, so sure, it does make me feel better in a sense, insofar as being amused is better than not being amused
>And what would be the real number of people killed during Holocaust? 8,514,555
Robert King
>No i hate people and I hate interactions. That's beside the point. I hate people and I ran a frat in college. Feeling antipathy isn't a reason for reposting the same deranged stuff for days on end.
Kevin Morgan
>tall Manlet I think you're blind, he's standing and she's sitting and he even looks like a teen while Mikasa looks older.
Luke Hughes
It does matter. The more the easier to banalize it. The less the easier to make a bond with the death ones.
To what part of my post are you replying exactly? I can't make sense of what you wrote here.
Joshua Hughes
>still more than the amount of people killed in the first grim reminder Reminder that Erencucks think it's okay to kill billions of innocent humans in return for killing a couple thousand monsters in human flesh with the consent of their own ruler.
I care because the post-WW2 narrative, including the holocaust, has become a new sort of foundational mythology for the Western world, almost a kind of religious dogma. I would prefer that it not be, as it's generating all sorts of moral deformations that is damaging Western society, and through Western media this moral deformation is slowly filtering into the rest of the world.
Therefore in pursuit of my preference, I would like to belittle and trivialize this narrative as much as possible.
Jacob Myers
YOOOOOOOOOO EUTHANSIA GOT IN SMASH BROS HOLY SHIT THAT WAS LITERALLY MY CHILDHOOD
>with the consent of their own ruler. So you think the state and more importantly its undisputed Leader should have complete control of the lives of His citizenry?
John Lopez
I don't think anything short of a somber phonecall with your father or father figure in life could make you stop. I'm not about to waste energy pretending otherwise.
I don't quite see the point in comparing kill counts depicted in two fictional accounts. I mean, authors could write 20,000 or 6,000,000 as they like, but these are both just made up numbers.
Juan Walker
>8,514,555 That is still a sick number. So far, I think the pro or anti 6mills are totally obsessed with quantity, as if that brings more or less value to a crime. So both sides are sick and should suck each other dicks. The day humans can feel morally accountable for one life as well as for a thousand, then we could talk of human evolution.
Easton Howard
Good for you :)
Jack Peterson
>The day humans can feel morally accountable for one life as well as for a thousand, then we could talk of human evolution.
Yeah keep telling yourself that. Freedom with zero responsibility to go with it is a sophist, tautological oxymoron.
Zachary Miller
Is the instrumentalization of the act of killing what is horrifying, not killing more or less. Eren is now in the stage of banalization of life for the sake of life itself. That’s the irony.
>That is still a sick number. That's the joke though. I made the arbitrary number bigger. 8,514,555 > 6,000,000, yeah?
>The day humans can feel morally accountable for one life as well as for a thousand, then we could talk of human evolution. I don't feel morally accountable no matter what the number is. I didn't press the button to gas them or send their trolley carts into the masturbatoriums or the soap-and-lampshade-making machines or whatever. I never had any interactions with any of the people that died, or their killers, and I'll hardly shed a tear at their suffering or deaths.
This is what I meant in about the moral deformations damaging Western society. Why should anyone feel morally accountable towards folks that they did not bring harm to, that they never even knew or interacted with? it's such an absurd proposition.
Ethan Barnes
Sorry I am drunk and reading a lot of contradictory information at the same time, I am not trying to troll or anything, I am just inaccurate right now.
There it is. You're about as free as a woman who chops up her own kid in her womb after weekly one night stands so she can keep scuffing her knees with her co-workers between writing reports for a multinational corporation and then tells herself that she's free for it.
Gabriel Ramirez
You just decide what responsibilities you abandon.
Luis Bailey
being a slave to corporations and manipulated by society is not free.
Let's talk about theories! Why do you guys think pure titans uncontrollably eat people?
I've got a theory that Ymir's children killed and cannibalized her to steal her titan power, but in doing so they were cursed, so now all the pure titans and even the shifters to some extent are cursed with a compulsion to cannibalize people
>Why should anyone feel morally accountable towards folks that they did not bring harm to, that they never even knew or interacted with? it's such an absurd proposition. You shouldn't, but you should know that certain ideologies can bring people to the point of industrialized murder so it can be avoided in the future.
Oh i thought that they were eating people in an unconscious effort to, by chance, consume the spinal fluid of a shifter and return to their human form..
Colton Torres
Turks are literally covered in hair, eren has a hairless chest
So is it better to kill 6 millions of Jews than 1 unborn fetus?
Landon Adams
>like siblings Even better
Julian Edwards
But it can't be avoided in the future. Ethnic cleansing has been a pattern of human behavior since the beginning of recorded history, and as with all other aspects of human behavior, technological advancement will make it more and more efficient over time.
Industrialized murder has happened and will happen again. I decided long ago that I myself will not be participating in it, but that's the extent of my own moral involvement. If other people wish to participate that's got nothing to do with me.
Is there any character that cannot defeat Reiner Braun? And I'm not talking about Yoroi no Kyojin Reiner Braun. Hell, I'm not even talking about a young Reiner Braun almost falling his warrior aptitude test and only passing thanks to his blind loyalty, acquiring the Yoroi no Kyojin solely due to Marcel Galliard trying to protect his brother. I couldn't be talking about Yoroi no Kyojin Reiner Braun being terrorized and running away from a pure titan leaving Marcel to his death, thereafter hiding behind a Marcel-like facade to cope with the loss and guilt. I'm definitely not talking about Yoroi no Kyojin Reiner Braun being defeated by Eren Yeager using close quarter moves Reiner himself taught him. I'm really not taking about Yoroi no Kyojin Reiner Braun beaten effortlessly by Zeke Yeager offscreen and ordered to comply with his plan. I'm really not talking about Yoroi no Kyojin Reiner Braun defeated multiple times by the Survey Corps at Shiganshina and barely survive rescued by Pieck. Do you think I'm talking about Yoroi no Kyojin Reiner Braun shot down by a warship tremendously hurting Marley's international reputation? You'd be joking if you think I'm talking about Yoroi no Kyoji Reiner Braun breaking down begging Eren to kill him then barely survives shielding Falco. I'm talking about Yoroi no Kyojin Reiner Braun losing to Eren Yeager even 3 on 1 with support from the Shariki no Kyojin and Agito no Kyojin as well as an anti-titan gun operated by Theo Magath, dooming all his comrades with a rushed suicide attack he proposed and letting himself eaten by a titanized Falco Grice
>But it can't be avoided in the future That doesn't have to be the case. People will always hate one another, but we can strive to limit and contain that hatred so no one gets the power to enable genocide.
Not plausible considering my ethnic group is the largest ethnic group which exists or has ever existed, and we currently run 4 ethnostates, but sure, it's possible. And in that case my moral responsibility will be to use every means available to me to fight and do as much damage to the group carrying out industrialized murder upon my co-ethnics as possible. But even in that case, I won't be going into any death camps, so I won't be participating.
Jackson Bailey
the first line was sweet, cancerous autism. the second line was pure truth. I see nothing to argue here.
>my ethnic group is the largest ethnic group Blacks?
James Flores
>But even in that case, I won't be going into any death camps, so I won't be participating. That’s what Shlomo said like 80 years ago.
Ayden James
Yes?
Elijah Russell
>People will always hate one another, but we can strive to limit and contain that hatred. I don't see that it's feasible to limit or contain any human emotion. As far as I can tell, the only attempt which has ever been made at this is upon the West Europeans, and that's having all sorts of weird fallouts such as the creation of the white guilt complex and the rise of the self-hating white leftist. And I don't believe such things will be beneficial to the world in the long run.
>so no one gets the power to enable genocide. But people already have that power.
Jordan Rivera
"limit hatred"
Thats literally what the marleyans tried to do. Your euphemisms for oppression don't change anything.
Well, I personally believe murder is immoral in general (although not necessarily in all cases). Therefore industrialized murder is also immoral. And so I won't be participating in industrialized murder of the white men, should such a thing happen to occur.
Christian White
Blacks aren't an ethnic group. They're a racial group but within the racial group they're split into like a few hundred broad lingual groups, and then within those into a few thousands of individual tribes or ethnicities.
>I don't see that it's feasible to limit or contain any human emotion I'm not saying the emotions themselves, but the spread of people who feel similarly. One person who hates a group of people means almost nothing and might kill a few if fervent enough. If that ideology spreads, it can enable a government and its military to attempt justifying genocide.
Jose Reyes
Unironically this
Ryan Thompson
No, I mean... ethnic cleansings don't just immediately start in the death camp stage. There's always a buildup period, and I've decided long ago that if I become aware of the buildup period I'm just immediately going to violence. Inb4 edgelord or whatever, it simply makes more sense to die fighting and at least inflict some degree of personal suffering upon one or more of my enemies than to die of starvation or disease or something worse in a camp somewhere.
Shlomo did not have this in mind. Shlomo thought he could run and hide.
Lucas Kelly
And so your oppression of peoples rights will make more hatred spread and will justify (in self defense) them grim remindering you and everyone who supported their oppression.
Only Hanji that I can remember. And about the mixture of races, well Sasha family has southern Marleyan ascent, so it possible Paradis has more mixed blood than in Liberio where is prohibited.
Henry Butler
Middle Eastern?
Brayden Brooks
>Thats because eldia use to rule over marley so her family was from there. There was likely little admixture between them because eldia believed in eugenics.
Kevin Walker
How are people being oppressed? I never said that.
Jaxson Clark
"stopping the spread of hate" How are you going to do that without taking away peoples freedom?
Connor Ward
I know about the 13% and the 50%, but with all due respect, white men failing to enforce the boundaries of their own ethnic zones and failing to teach their women that blacks are disproportionately likely to engage in criminal behavior is not the same thing as being rounded up and being put on the trains.
In either case though I am not a law enforcement officer who selectively fails to enforce laws upon criminals, nor am I a criminal. So my moral responsibility in the case of 'white genocide' ends there.
Jack Torres
Education, for one. Which is what I meant back in when I said >You shouldn't, but you should know that certain ideologies can bring people to the point of industrialized murder so it can be avoided in the future Being knowledgeable of the circumstances which allowed those things to happen and have enough understanding to not buy into the same beliefs is probably the only thing that will actually work for reason you've already stated.
Austin Jenkins
>is not the same as being rounded up and being put on the trains
>muh industrialized murder Your focus on industrialized murder is bizarre and gay. Why does murder have to be industrialized for it to be bad? At least indsutrialized murder is HONEST about what it is unlike the disgusting system of anarcho-tyranny we live under.
Propaganda != education. >Your focus on industrialized murder is bizarre and gay I said it once and made a reference back to it because we're specifically talking about the holocaust here, aren't we?
Connor Diaz
>but the spread of people who feel similarly. I don't see that you can stop that spread. If you look at it historically, you see that hatred of groups don't just arise for no good reason. There's often narratives and ideologies which arise to sustain the hatred, but these narratives always form around a core issue. Unless you resolve that core issue, any attempts to shut down narratives or ideologies proceeding from that core issue aren't going to work.
Oliver Harris
>propaganda != education
Apparently you've never been to school. There is no separation between brainwashing, propaganda and education in reality.
Christopher Wilson
If you mean Arabs, you're getting closer, there's quite a few of them. More than half a billion these days, iirc. But no, I'm not an Arab.
I'm not a gook and I'm not going to be an apologist but we're well on our way to the same shit in America. Yes, it's just as bad. No it doesn't matter less because newspapers aren't raising a fuss about the companies that are doing it.
Ethan Morris
You could at least post the full spell. Not that it actually works. :p
Nah. I still don't know why he was chased out in the first place
Levi Myers
Okay fed
Tyler James
If what you mean by 'soul' is the whites' overactive empathy for outgroups then I'm not sure I really want one.
I understand that in the past this was a trait that brought your ancestors great success because it allowed for greater resource-sharing among more distantly-related kin groups. But in the modern era where it causes many of your people to be driven into functional insanity by being shown pic related it's become really, really maladaptive. It's like having a sweet tooth or something.
Why? A tyrannical government and a social credit systems are both things which are finite and can be ended with enough striving. Extermination is so... final.
It's less about overactive empathy and more about the fact that white societies allowed for their clergy to get subverted after the reflrmation and for themselves to get subverted into giving voting rights to a pathos-driven voting bloc, women. All this happened because they got too comfortable. Good times, tough men, and all that.
Adrian Perry
We don't all have that, thank god. Too many do, but still...
Oliver Hall
I was saying that if i had to choose between 1. living as a slave 2. dying I would pick dying. Obviously if i lived in china I would try to fight (and probably die as a result)
Kayden Sanders
Why has /pol/ been shitting these threads up worse than usual the last few days?
Juan Lee
They are only a stand in for nips. The japanese are so self centered that probably they lump all non asian people in the same bag. As some westerns that will try to backstab them given a chance.
Elijah Wood
oof
Eli Wilson
im the one doing it and Ive never been on /pol/. Im countering the semitic subversion thats going to come in these upcoming anime episodes. Dont worry ill stop two weeks after this season ends.
Nathaniel Gonzalez
>In the past What? White Guilt is a new thing, caused by the savagery of both World Wars, they gave a mortal wound to western values and culture and given rise to the age of "relativism". The shit in the present is just a symptom of a dying culture and this all the Germans fault.
I doubt falling into the same mistakes of the past would do anything but open wider that injury.
Jonathan Evans
because they saw the words "genocide" and "race" and self-inserted so hard.
And just like that, "WE WUZ ELDIANS N SHIT". Pure autism.
Levi Long
The world in we live is based in the result of the WWII. Unless you want another new conflict that reshuffle the power balance of the globe, better to try to understand it and stop beign a edgelord.
Levi Mitchell
I do understand that there are many factors. I'm not saying that the overactive empathy is the only one. I'm still on the fence about the role that Christianity (or the loss thereof) plays. Not being a Christian myself it's rather hard to rate such things.
As far as votes for women, I think the problems started well before this, when the property requirements for voting were abolished. That was the first step on the path to removing merit and responsibility from the voting process.
Cooper Baker
You were a great guy and I'm sorry your first son turned out to be such a spineless cuck
I agree with you but I wish you'd refine your pasta a bit. Right now it's just just baiting for some triggered faggot to start countersignaling.
Luke Rivera
What in the fuck are you talking about? Grisha is a fucking loser. His own son could see as an infant he was a careless idiot who was gonna squander Kruger's lifetime efforts and doom all of Eldia forever.
Carter Rogers
No, no. You misunderstand. I'm saying that in the past, overactive empathy was a beneficial trait by facilitating resource-sharing among more distantly related (but still related) folks, even if they weren't of exactly the same lineage or tribe. If an individual was injured and needed help, and happened to be away from his local tribe, he is more likely to receive succor.
In the modern era with the rise of mass media which allows for the propagation of narratives like the Alan Kurdi debacle, overactive empathy has become maladaptive.
I'm not talking about white guilt in the post you're responding to. But addressing that, I'm mostly in agreement with you there. I see it as arising mostly from a distinct form of propaganda, the post-WW2 narrative, as I mentioned previously in
Kevin Hall
I've been a regular on /pol/ for years and I can assure you even we do not tolerate this level of cringe.
Austin Mitchell
we didn't all agree. People are just tired of you sperging out every thread.
Nicholas Gutierrez
> forced to wear identifying arm bands > forced to live in zones > homogenic state that much of the world wants to destroy > scapegoated the fuck out of by Marley > Elongated noses > "Shape Shifters" > m-must be white.
The mental gymnastics you have to go through to arrive at this point is staggering. Seek help.
>all the nazis ITT what's with the sudden surge of nazi posters /snk/? Did they just read the manga because I don't think last episode gave enough information for these levels of autism
Joseph James
>They are totally nazis and NOT the jews in the manga srsly trus me guise!
>Unless you want another new conflict that reshuffle the power balance of the globe Whether or not I want such a thing is irrelevant to if it happens. Further, I don't subscribe to the 'end of history' theory which posits that such a conflict or reshuffling can be held off indefinitely.
If I were to extrapolate as best I could, I believe this conflict will take the form of the West collapsing in part or in whole as a result of internal weakness, and the Arabs, Chinese, and Indians duking it out in the ashes of Africa for the future of the human soul.
And as for what happens from there, who knows?
Jaxson Cruz
Antinatalists the least human humans. I feel sorry for Grisha that his own son turned out to be one.
Why do no eldians where badges if they represent jews? I'll tell you why. More than one group of people wore arm bands in ww2. I'll let you guess which ones the eldians represent. (hint its not the ones that also wore badges)
2. jews do not have a monopoly on ghettos
3.jews are not a homogenic state. They are literally a diaspora nation. That's the exact opposite of a homogenic state.
4. whites are being scapegoated by the rest of the world and jews just like eldians with marley.
5. the only eldians with long noses are not on paradis which means they have marley admixture with the arguable exception of Hange.
If the faggots really believed what they spew, they'd all neck themselves and free themselves of this oh-so terrible world that they never asked to be born into
Zachary Butler
thats not me. If fact he was arguing with me in the thread.
Mason Robinson
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA Based retard
John Myers
>I...would choose to have never been born, if it was up to me. I've hated my blood. More than anyone else...I wished for the extinction of all Eldians. ...but I do not wish to die. Because...I was born into this world. -Willy Tybur
Isayama sure hates the antinatalists...
Connor Flores
>long nose = jew So THIS is how american education looks like...
and here we have /snk/ where they pulled back on the shippery but went full force on young virgin males talking about nazism. I wonder what great discussion there will be in every thread from now on.
John Sanders
The antagonist is an antinatalist and about to be BTFO. How much sponsorship money is Isayama taking from Abe?
Gavin Gray
I love Reiner, if not for he and I falling in love, I don't think I would still be alive. He is magical, he is mine and I am his. He saw me through the toughest of times and I can't be more grateful for our meeting. for any friendly anons I haven't been around because BUSY and taking a Yea Forums break, I shouldn't even be here right now, but shout out to Jeanfriend if you're here I love Reiner Everyone else is a pretender and must be eliminated.
>being afraid of the possibility of your world view being wrong
Christian Thomas
Makes sense. The whiny faggots ought to just off themselves instead of spending all their time crying over how much they hate the world. Hey, antinatalists! Every moment you spend moping and bitching is a moment that you choose to spend alive and still in this world that you supposedly hate!
Samuel Hill
cry more marleyan.
Parker Collins
Dark, but kek
Michael Taylor
the pedo and that schizo making the decap edits seem to have gone so honestly i see it ass an improvement
Hunter Peterson
The thing is the propaganda wasn't really necessary, is just a byproduct of the changes in the moral foundations which the western civilization was built upon. If you see the artistic, architectonic and philosophical movements born from the world wars, you can see the beginning of the decline, white people did it to themselves, they became their own warden.
Ryder Rodriguez
I want to cum inside Piku.
Gabriel Nelson
haha I bet he also thinks blue eyes are a white feature. What an idiot haha
>posting goblino to contradict a non goblino evidence
retard
Joseph Miller
When's the last time you talked to a woman, be honest. And by woman I don't mean your mom or the cashier at the grocery store, I mean an actual conversation with a woman
Luis Clark
This is actually pretty accurate for me, personally.
Jacob Perry
Fuck off schizo, the jeanbo pedo reveal was bad enough and we don't need more of you namefag fucks.
Gavin Russell
I don't care who's the joos. I think shippingfaggotry is more readable than this. Can't we just enjoy the manga? >Inb4 kike shill This isn't a board for that.
Daniel Barnes
well im a teacher so every day.
Benjamin Evans
>Missing the point this hard
Benjamin Walker
>implying any of that was real
Jace Hughes
whats your point? The continuum fallacy using mixed mutts as evidence?
Carson Thomas
t. afraid of debate >don't talk about things that make me uncomfortable!
Adam Young
>went full force on young virgin males talking about nazism. I think this is the worst part because Eldians are so jewish that it's not even funny so they heap on post after post of COPE to explain why this firmly anti-nationalist, pro-progressive series is actually their nazi fanfiction. At least with the shipping people would occasionally post porn or fan art. Now it's just WE WUZ ELDIANS THE MANGA IS ABOUT US, and it's so annoying.
Isaiah Perez
we'll never see Jean's timeskip design done by WIT
Jace Kelly
The next reshuffle will be caused because unscrupulous persons will see the people are retards that keep eating the idea of others humans being with lesser rights to live, to think or what not, and could be drummed to fight for the interest of said unscrupulous persons.
im glad these things make you upset. Now you know how we feel from listening to your banal e-celeb opinions constantly and dumb shipping shit.
Now we are the hunters.
Jaxson Lee
>1 > Group that is currently being oppressed because of their race identifies less with a group that is being oppressed because of their race and more with an oppressive group. > INB4 "MUH 1700 YEERZ" Just like irl, Kruger hinted that there's something fishy about both sides of the propaganda.
>2 >W-whites have lived in ghettos too!! >Ignoring the obvious context a person with even an 85 IQ could realize
>3 > Implying Israel doesn't exist, is not majority Jewish, and actively against immigration to Israel
>4 And whites scapegoat jews as hard as other races scapegoat them. It's almost like anyone who's ever felt oppressed could identify with certain parts of this story!
>5 I-it's just a c-coincidence!! It's not like we only make fun of one groups for having big noses irl!!!
The irony here is that less than a few months ago, You wouldn't find a single person unironically making Eldians == whites comparisons because they were literally retarded. And they still are. But the moment Zeke started talking about genocide, /pol/a/cks flooded their panties and self-inserted tf out of this manga. Because this is the same fanbase that screeches about > MUH POLITICS IN MY JAPANEEZ CARTOONS whenever someone criticizes the story for being "fascist". Just like that fanfiction written by Twitter fags, it's total bullshit.
When all the examples lean one way and your only counterpoint is your delusional cognitive dissonance induced headcannon, maybe you should consider you are a complete retard.
Jaxson James
Me too
Jackson Lee
>Now we are the hunters Cringe. Don't make your mom write your post for you. You are presumably old enough to do it yourself.
Oliver Anderson
Honestly, we need to take the forum approach of scortched earth when it comes to /pol/fags. they're like cockroaches. You see one going "hitler did nothing wrong lol" and you think "live and let live." then you come home one day and it's just a den of the little fuckers "did you know that despite being 13% of the population" "here's why thing that offends me is jewish" "my headcanon is correct"
Camden Rivera
A better comparison of eldians to real life would be Japanese internment camps in the US
1. That wasn't even coherent. Learn to fucking type you god damn retard. Eldians believed in eugenics, commited genocide and colonized the world. This is literally the same justification used for the oppression of white people. Keep up.
2. Not just white people literally every group of people on earth. It's literally standard for any form of oppression story. I dont know why you think isayama using standard oppression tactics is evidence that eldians are jews.
3.lmao at the fact that you think isayama is righting this story about a story that is clearly about the past given their technologies. Jews are historically a diaspora nation the fabrication of "israel" has nothing to do with that history.
5.Another incoherent argument that makes no sense. Cry harder.
Forget cuckposting, this is bad enough for the reputation of Erenfags.
Isaiah Ortiz
I like the part where Eldians were told that they genocided Marleyans for 17 centuries while being exploited for Marley's military conflicts, their kids were brainwashed by state propaganda into hating their own race, and then when the world was getting ready to wreck Marley's shit, a woke Willy Tybur helps direct all that anger towards launching an assault on Paradis. So Jewish! Only pol larpers would think this was in any way similar to whites or Japs!
David Green
>entire first half discourages against demonizing people (Eren who originally wants to wipe out all titans becomes a titan. making literally not all titans) >deconstructs "humanity vs titans" (us vs them) by having "humanity" (in this case privileged nobles) be the thing stopping humanities progress for their own gain. >highlights the futility of nationalism by having Grisha reject Marely falsehoods only to swallow the Owl's falsehoods. >Paradis only advances when it accepts helps from multicultural foreigners. It's been a story about the dangers of extremes and folly of "us vs them" from the start. Did you read a single chapter pre-marely? of course not. /pol/fags can't read.
Grayson Kelly
niggers deserve to die
Anthony Long
You must be 18 years old to post here
Jackson Thompson
I see you are a fellow big brain nibba good sir, I tip my Fedora to you!
James Rogers
so you admit you can't read?
Benjamin Carter
>muh reputation
slave.
the reason behind hating jews is subversion. No group ever killed jews for "genocide" or "colonialism." In fact, jews have never had a state historically. So that's not even a fucking possible outcome.
This sounds like white people to me
>first half discourages demonizing other people LMAO you absolute retard speedreader. Stopped reading there.
But we ARE enjoying the manga, as Isayama-sensei wants us to. Why would he put all this political allegory into the manga if not to get us discussing it?
James Watson
>deconstructs "humanity vs titans" (us vs them) by having "humanity" (in this case privileged nobles) be the thing stopping humanities progress for their own gain. >highlights the futility of nationalism by having Grisha reject Marely falsehoods only to swallow the Owl's falsehoods. >Paradis only advances when it accepts helps from multicultural foreigners.
Evan Sanders
>I like the part where Eldians were told that they genocided Marleyans for 17 centuries while being exploited for Marley's military conflicts You mean like how the the German government made propaganda about how jewish people were responsible for Germany's defeat in WW1 as well as everything else wrong with the country and then put them into camps and ghettos. Tell me user, What government is putting white people into ghettos with a star marking them as white?
>their kids were brainwashed by state propaganda into hating their own race, Like jewish children who were subjected to these things during Nazi rule. Tell me user, where is the common core saying that white people are evil?
That's the thing user, You like the way these things sound. You want to be the victim. but you have no real basis for anything. It's pathetic. Find me some legislature for the systemic persecution of white people or stop peddling your fanfiction.
Cooper Ross
You sound like a person about to had a meltdown irl. Hope you are already on vacations, because i fear for the lives of your schoolmates.
Tyler Murphy
They're what kept it alive for the past 3 years
Zachary Perry
Doubt it.
Aiden Sanchez
>stopping humanities progress for their own gain stopped reading their you dumbass fucking speedreader.
if your race is a burden to the world, you must do the honorable and that is to murder your kin
Dominic Cruz
I'm an ESL so I don't want to shit on people for having poor English, but... your English is very poor and I don't understand your meaning.
Anthony Flores
>LMAO you absolute retard speedreader. Stopped reading there. Damn that's a clever way of admitting you don't have a counterpoint. Like I said, /pol/fags can't read.
but you got that far so prove that one sentence wrong. You've clearly read it more in depth than me so how is >"Eren who originally wants to wipe out all titans because they're responsible for everything wrong in the world becomes a titan. making literally not all titans" Not a condemnation of us vs them. What does it REALLY mean.
So bets in what will they cut tomorrow? It's basically confirmed they will end with Kruger wrecking the ships.
James Gomez
wow, I wonder what this whistle sounds like
Jayden Carter
>you don't have a counterpoint
A counterpoint to what? You literally made a claim that was the opposite of reality. The only way I "counter" that is by pointing and laughing at your retarded beliefs.
>but eren becomes a titan
this is dumb on multiple levels. Erens statement that he desires to kill all the titan is referring to a specific subset of titans. This is shown when even after becoming a titan he still says he wants to kill all titans. Because unlike you he has the ability to read into what other people are saying.
He's saying he wants to kill all the titans that are hurting his people. If you think him becoming a titan is a deconstruction of "us vs. them" you are a moron.
Of course, they don't need a star to mark them as Boers because they don't pass the eyeball test to fit in as Bantu, in the way that some Jews can pass the eyeball test to fit in as Teutonics.
Gabriel Powell
You can't prove Eldian's committed genocide.
Kevin Howard
can south africans turn into titans
Hunter Ward
>1 > Me paraphrasing your own braindead logic was to hard for even your own feeble brain to comprehend absolute kek
>2 > N-Not just white people nigger you're the same person trying to provide contextual evidence that could be applied to multiple groups of people as facts for your own shoddy opinion. Genocide is not monopolized towards white people you fucking autist.
>3 > righting senpai, you're literally a retard. lmao at the fact you think isayama is writing* a story about cucked whiteys given the constant contextual relationship to Jews. > MUH TEKNAWLOGY Keep "WE WUZ"ing, brainlet. > fabricated, homogenic nation that everyone wants to destroy > s-shut up! i-it has nothing to do with this!!!
>5 Seriously, how are you even able to function if you can't read simple sentences? Pay more attention in your remedial English class instead of shitposting your SJW-tier faggotry if you're going to continue being palsy-tier stupid.
JFC, this is some next degeneracy I'm dealing with. Like, Imagine claiming the oppressed group of people wearing armbands = nazis. By this shit tier logic, I guess Asians should be blacks in this. Not like anyone else in the world has ever been slaves.
Truly a shame you aren't an Eldian. Sterilizing you would actually benefit whatever race unfortunately claims you. Keep seething, SJW.
Jaxon Sullivan
compared to black south africans whites are titans.
In ability, intelligence etc they are far superior so from the perspective of the black south africans they appear to be titans.
Dominic Rivera
what the fuck is with your formatting? I can't understand anything you've typed. Go take Xanax you sperg.
Is just the poor afrikaans that get the short end of the stick. The rich ones before the end of the apartheid are still rich. And still in control of the economy. This personas are like the hillbillys of Alabama saying the negros robbed them.
Adam Williams
Stop making shitty bait threads
Bentley Davis
>This is /pol/negroes' argument I say, this for us to ignore them, yes?
It is clear that you are mentally deranged. I'm not a slave to you so I have no obligations to exert the amount of force required to translate your scizo rants.
>Nosecucks >One are the hongocucks >One is the Pee slut Sneed >The other is the Eruritrash aka Gopnikslut aka Shitkasafag aka Gabipedo aka Anniepedo backstabbing the Hongocucks Shit group.
>the anti-eldian = aryanfag is against anonymous posting
the absolute state of Yea Forums subversives. I knew I'd draw you guys out with these threads you couldn't resist trying to subvert the actual themes of snk.
Now that you've been spotted that makes things a lot easier.
It wasn't just the formatting. You weren't even typing coherently.
It was literally like you slammed you face into the keyboard with autocorrect turned on. I think you have a mental issue.
Asher Nguyen
>All titans only refers to mindless titans which he didn't know existed until he became a titan.
Yikes. You really did only read out of context pages of pre-marely. "All titans" meant "all titans". To Eren titans were an embodiment everything wrong with the world. It's only after he becomes a titan, is faced with being treated like an enemy to humanity despite not being so (his trial) does he change to a more defensive stance on why we must wipe out the titans. it showed titans weren't the boogeyman he thought they were because he became one and it was only through becoming one did he advance.
Even your image rebukes nationalism, because even though they're in a situation where they have a great enemy with which to blame all their problems on and are living in an ethnostate yet there's still conflict and the real enemy (at the time) was inside the walls. in short you just proved me right. No wonder you tried to weasel out of a counter point. you're really bad at it.
Xavier Smith
>continuing to bitch about formatting that's right, tap out cuck. Zeke would be proud.
Now this is an interesting thing I find pervades the Western narrative. The way this is framed takes away all agency from the blacks and puts it onto the whites. It's a very disgusting framing, imo.
Have you considered that perhaps the poor blacks don't want the poor whites to live among them either? That they would be interested in patrolling the boundaries of their own ethnic zones and this requires them to exclude the whites?
Ayden Roberts
I love how your video starts with a quote proving you wrong. That's not a systemic thing, that's a cultural thing among the poor (and they aren't even the most poor). You really couldn't find any systemic oppression so you tried to pass of the idea of white people being poor in a third world country as a government oppressing people en masse because of their ethnicity. You lost before you even started.
>cravat Faye is the cutest! It should be illegal for Eldians to be this cute.
Hunter Nguyen
>I can't read properly, therefore YOU'RE the stupid one. kek, ofc this is coming from the same guy that thinks "righting" and "writing" are the same thing.
No user, you're simply a spastic autist. do us all a favor and kys to save us all the pain of having to listen to anymore of your schizo ramblings. This world is already too cruel.
Moving the goalposts won't get you anywhere with me.
The question was if white people are being put into ghettos by governments. The ZA government policy is to preferentially hire Bantus over Boers, which results in the disenfranchisement of Boers and them going into ghettos. Boers are an ethnicity contained within the racial group of 'whites,' therefore whites are being put into ghettos.
Connor Diaz
>"fdiogeriogherjiogerjiogjioergioe" you dropped this druing your spaz out
>You can find them plenty in Israel™ Israel is full of Arabs though... it's a yucky place.
Bentley Collins
There you go again, no counter point because you're wrong. Again your pic is another rebuke of us vs them. Eren easily kills those two because he doesn't see them as human. He's sees them as an other. a them. His worldview is simplistic. Now compare this to him watching the death of Bertholt. Bertholt is responsible for the deaths of thousands. far more heinous than those two crooks yet Eren still cries because at this stage he knows it goes beyond us vs them. That's also the reason he didn't shift immediately to fight Annie.
You didn't even post a counter point and you're still proving me right. Shit dude.
Those white people didn't get put into ghettos by the government, they got put into the ghettos because they're poor. By your logic the poor blacks (who outnumber the whites) are also being put into ghettos by the government and therefore it's still not just because they're white. You've still failed before you started.
So I stopped following this a while back before the basement reveal and decided to pick it up again the other day and what an absolute glorious shitshow.
>Muh 1800 year titanocaust
Death to Marley, total Eldian victory.
Sebastian Parker
GRISHA WAS A SPEEDREADER
Gabriel Rogers
In Eren's heart
Matthew Rogers
>Those white people didn't get put into ghettos by the government, they got put into the ghettos because they're poor. They're poor because of the government policy. Therefore the government causes them to be put into ghettos.
>By your logic the poor blacks (who outnumber the whites) are also being put into ghettos by the government and therefore it's still not just because they're white. Read the question again. Was this in the parameters? Again, moving the goalposts doesn't work on me. I'll just call you out on it every time.
Xavier Gray
Uh oh we got a moralefag
Charles Lopez
in bed with ymir
Angel Fisher
Grisha was a bad Jew brother to her. I would've protected her!
>EHcucks LHcucks spamming again You fool no one coward Eruritrash The manipulations belongs to the jews, those making those cucks ads and cuck movies ;)
>The irony here is that less than a few months ago, You wouldn't find a single person unironically making Eldians == whites comparisons because they were literally retarded. Nigger, people were calling it the moment the Grisha reveal chapter effectivly had him become a neo-nazi. Don't act like it's some out of the blue new idea.
These fanarts look so weird now that she got confirmed to be straight
Nolan Baker
spoiler alert, everyone's poor because of government policy. that's why it's a third world country you retard.
>Was this in the parameters? "Find me some legislature for the systemic persecution of white people" You didn't find that. There's no legislature forcing those whites into the ghettos and whites aren't the majority in those ghettos. You found people being poor because of bad government policy who just happened to be white, and they still weren't even the most adversely affected class.
F-
You still failed before you started. Keep trying to appeal though, this is funny.
How many episodes are left? I'm still hoping for Grim Reminder 2.0 to be the end of the season, but I guess it'll end proper with the ocean, and Eren doing 9/11 will be some kind of after credits scene.
Ryder Kelly
EArfags. I like Eren and Armin, can't stand mosly Shitkasafags forcing their boring bitch with down syndrome with other characters. Shitkasafags are all EreMikaHavens
Austin Barnes
Grisha was portrayed as a vengeful retard whose nationalist fervor was based on lies and his own misinterpretations of history, and whose actions doomed himself and his family. To interpret his character as an endorsement rather than a condemnation of nationalism and vengeance is to wildly misinterpret the story.
>Find me some legislature for the systemic persecution of white people From the description of the video:
>A controversial "affirmative action" policy sees blacks take precedence over whites on the job market, giving some people little choice but to move into tents and caravans in camps such as Coronation Park
>"I'm sorry, it's racist. I'm not racist, but the blacks come first and then whites," said one retired resident of the camp. "And even highly qualified whites don't get a position in South Africa."
>"Apartheid was a problem. But, this is the only country in the world where the majority has got 'affirmative action'," he said. "America's got affirmative action, everywhere's got affirmation action, but this is the only country where the majority's got 'affirmative action'."
Quoting the following article, also linked in the description:
Come on, user. Did you really think there wasn't gonna be a 'gotcha' waiting for you?
David Garcia
Hmm what do you like so much about sasha, yelena, and historia?
Logan Hernandez
>LHcucks spamming >one picture >spamming What is your problem with LH? They're the most peaceful shipperfags.
Samuel Walker
cope
Jason Nelson
Three episodes, user. We're not getting from the other side of the ocean other than a teaser maybe.
Daniel Richardson
>that floch placement did you make this based on who you personally enjoy, who you find interesting, or who is an "objectively" good character/good for the narrative?
Josiah Howard
No, you. It's you the one annoyed by "spamming". I'm just curious about your reasons.
Jordan Reyes
user just ignore it
Andrew Carter
>Sasha and Yelena cause of comedy beats. It's a weakness, I know, but I mark out super-hard for those bits. >Historia cause she's preggers.
Owen Garcia
So is Armin going to transform this battle or not?
Christopher Perez
Except nearly all progress in the first half of the series is still driven by the "us versus them" mentality. The privileged nobles you're talking about were backing a policy that was fundamentally designed to lead to the decline and death of their nation, and everything the protagonists do is in service towards strengthening the position of their people in the ongoing conflict. The progressive multicultural foreigners Paradis accepted into their fold were actually subversive agents out to use the country for their own purposes, and the current storyline is literally about the Eldians securing the existence of their race and the future of their children in the face of their own nihilistic self-destruction for the sake of the rest of the world.
Hudson Davis
within Eren
Luke Cruz
again, this isn't legislature for the systemic persecution of white people. that's a cultural thing among the poor. White people robbed or forced into ghettos, they're disadvantaged and end up poor, but even then that's because they're not the poorest class despite being a minority. The Nazis didn't disadvantage the jews which ended up with jews being a minority in a majority poor ethnic german ghetto. They signed legislature that jewish people couldn't own property and forced them to live there.
The criteria was "Find me some legislature for the systemic persecution of white people" and all you found me was a policy that disadvantaged some whites but they're still on the whole better off than the majority of poor who are black.
Was the "gotcha" you failing before you started? cause that's what it looks like.
Jace Taylor
>The privileged nobles you're talking about were backing a policy that was fundamentally designed to lead to the decline and death of their nation Sorry, it's nitpicky but I gotta point out, those nobles weren't Eldians and were never actually part of the Eldian nation. They regarded themselves as being a distinct people from the commoners within the walls, literally referring to them as 'slaves.' They were a subversive and parasitic element from the very start.
Luis White
Cringe thread
Ayden Sanders
I hate them This post isn't mine, just the Anniepedo/AAshit Kys Maybe because blacks are lazy as hell, even the few blacks run away from themselves!
>White people robbed or forced into ghettos, they're disadvantaged and end up poor, but even then that's because they're not the poorest class despite being a minority. The Nazis didn't disadvantage the jews which ended up with jews being a minority in a majority poor ethnic german ghetto. They signed legislature that jewish people couldn't own property and forced them to live there. More useless goalpost-shifting. We're talking about Boers and Bantus in South Africa.
>The criteria was "Find me some legislature for the systemic persecution of white people" Read the article in the link and get back to me when you've done so.
>Was the "gotcha" you failing before you started? cause that's what it looks like. More useless bravado. I should probably warn you, I'm not white and I have no personal investment in this. So I can't be provoked to emotional reactions by this rubbish-tier rhetoric. It's all academic to me, which is why I can amuse myself by constructing gotchas for you by linking a video with an article hidden in the description.
Jordan Gomez
It's the last battle of the manga so it would be surprising if he didn't. Hopefully they take him down and eat him
Ryan Cooper
The "The progressive multicultural foreigners" are the ones who empowered the Yeagarists to begin with. Only Zeke and Yellena knew of the sterilization plan. Also you must be extremely dumb if you think the nationalist Yeagarists are portrayed as "good guys"
Is ErwLcuck falseflagging as my waifu, LEpedo, now or what?
Connor Myers
Alright fair enough for the first 2 but historia? Are you soft for that kind of thing or is this a weird fetish lmao Personally I thought she had a lot of potential with her being denied freedom and having to fulfill the roles forced upon her. Whether she really deserves that S+ status depends on what isayama does with her next i guess.
Jayden Hill
No, why?
Mason Watson
>by the "us versus them" mentality >he didn't read the first half yikes. > The privileged nobles you're talking about were backing a policy that was fundamentally designed to lead to the decline and death of their nation Nope. They'd be fine. They were acting in their best interest. Even then they were human and the "them" was titans. Already tossing Us vs Them out the window. Wrong again. They regularly gamble the lives of "their people" and a significant chunk of the first half is them fighting "their people". Because as established in the annie arc, There is no "us" and no "them"
>The progressive multicultural foreigners Wrong, as shown by boyega people joined for different reasons. Yelena for religious, boyega genuinely to see them advance, etc. Showing again there isn't a single "them".
>the current storyline is about the complexity of conflict. Eren's been fighting paradis (eldians) and his childhood friends the majority of this arc. it's not your nazi fanfic.
Gavin Taylor
Are you ErwL or LE?
Jose Jenkins
every day it gets harder and harder to keep up with the metashit in these threads. I feel like its more complicated than the manga itself at this point
Levi Hall
It's a fetish. If she wasn't preggers she'd be bumped down to S rank along with Ymir, for being a character that had strong characterization once upon a time but then got turned into a plot device and became irrelevant
>It's the last battle of the manga Doubt it. There isn't even an official amount of chapters left before the end. The manga will end in 2020 for sure, but there are still some surprises left.
Dylan Murphy
Show me your feet and weight again and I'll believe you.
Leo Thompson
>The progressive multicultural foreigners Paradis accepted into their fold were actually subversive agents out to use the country for their own purposes,
Except Boyega and Nicolo show that some of them genuinely care about and want to help the islanders.
>the current storyline is literally about the Eldians securing the existence of their race and the future of their children in the face of their own nihilistic self-destruction for the sake of the rest of the world.
The Yeagerists are facist stand ins and are shown to be amoral useful idiots being manipulated by Zeke, Yelena, and Eren. Their goal is not merely to secure their own existence, but to establish a new Eldian empire. This is not portrayed as a noble goal. Rather, it's to show Eldians can succumb to the same fervor and hatred that has a hold on the nations threatening them.
Lincoln Young
>the current storyline is literally about the Eldians securing the existence of their race and the future of their children It would unironically be best for the entire world if all Eldians dropped dead desu.
Why do the Anniefags and AAfags hate us, detective?
Brayden Sanchez
The allied invasion is still months away. Why people think the story will end here when the climactic event has yet to come is beyond me.
Jayden Cook
The story clearly presents cyclical and senseless violence and oppression as being deeply flawed and tragic, but the contrary to that wasn't at all the idea I was responding to in that post. I was just pointing out that, no, the idea of Eldians having many parallels to whites isn't at all new.
And as far as what the story is condemning, it does clearly and consistently say that people should fight for their own freedom and existence. It warns against blind loyalty and indoctrination, but it also doesn't direct that criticism at just one ideology in particular.
Aiden Diaz
>Celebrate early again >Someone gets killed AGAIN Floche and the Yeagerists are so fucking pathetic.
>More useless goalpost-shifting. The context of this was eldians being jews and you finding a one to one for eldians being aryans(whites) as opposed to jews and you failing. No wonder you keep failing before you begin, you forgot where you began.
>Read the article in the link I did. but maybe I missed something. Cite the part that proves this is " legislature for the systemic persecution of white people" and not "a policy that disadvantaged some whites but they're still on the whole better off than the majority of poor who are black."
You can't. cause you failed before you even started.
>I'm not white and I have no personal investment in this. I am white, and I don't care what race you are. I care that you're wrong, like really wrong.
>It's all academic to me F-
>which is why I can amuse myself by constructing gotchas for you by linking a video with an article hidden in the description. If your "gotcha" is still being wrong then you've got a problem
Oliver Jenkins
What a good shot! who could of shot that guy? Hmm, who's a good shot?
Pervert. Currently on a diet btw >Gopnikslut kisses EHcucks asses while spamming pedophilia with Gabo Sue >Anniepedo/Eruritrash backstab LHcucks As for the AAfag she ships LE too so obviously she spams those disgusting blacked pictures eugh my stomach but don't worry, AA is trash too and won't happen ;)
Kayden Smith
Now you're just repeating yourself like a broken machine and I've become bored of you. Oh well, I'll leave you with one thing, at least.
>I am white, and I don't care what race you are. And that's why you're inferior.
Jayden Thompson
watch out user, he'll call you (((white))) for not buying into easily debunked /pol/ propaganda
Juan Martin
He's dead, user. You have to let it go.
Mason Gonzalez
Show me your fucking feet or you're going to hear from my lawyer!
Nolan Martin
No idea. Those race debates are even more boring than ship wars.
Josiah Lee
He's gonna get his legs smashed and become crippled, but he'll still be the leader of the Scouts Thank Ymir
I doubt Historia is irrelevant, she is obviously the other brain of the operation and the other royal blood
Adrian Harris
i miss him
Matthew Garcia
>The Yeagerists are facist stand ins and are shown to be amoral useful idiots being manipulated by Zeke, Yelena, and Eren. Their goal is not merely to secure their own existence, but to establish a new Eldian empire. This is not portrayed as a noble goal. This. They're not acting out of a love of Eldians, but a hatred for Marleyans. If they loved Eldians they wouldn't do excessive things like beating Shadis and dosing him up with Zeke's juice. Just imprisoning him would have been enough.
Christopher Jones
I know people have tried to run with the Eldians = whites idea from the beginning, but my point was that makes no sense since everything about Grisha after his childhood was to show him as a fool who ends up destroying himself. So if you view Grisha's radicalization as "becoming a neo-nazi" then the story is essentially saying "neo-nazis are retards", which doesn't square with the message people who argue Eldians being an analogue for oppressed whites have been pushing.
Jaxon Reyes
That's reasonable. The characterization statement, not the fetish.
Mason Anderson
Alt-righters and twitter anime avatar fascists can't accept they've been fans of a Jewish manga and rooted for literal cryptojews.
Leo Garcia
>women has only characterization when they are yuribait Funny how lesbian are so sexist and possessive while being jealous of pregnant women
Camden Jenkins
>This thread Can we go back to discussing who is the father?
>I-it's not that I can't prove you wrong it's that I'm bored I'm glad you can admit defeat but it's kind of pathetic that you're adamantly refusing to grow. Tragic really. You know when to retreat when you're wrong but you don't know how to stop being wrong. Tragedy. I'll allow it because the fedora core quote made me chuckle.
Nips dislike the jews amd are aware of the whiteguilt propaganda
Lucas Moore
In three weeks if we get the final chapter audio you can be sure it'll go back to that.
Logan Cooper
I can only hope. But with Isayama's history of sidelining characters... I can't commit till I see her out of that chair and doing big-brained plotty things.
Luis Murphy
Is Eren really free or is he also enslaved my the past memories of attack and founder titan?
Asher Evans
He enslaved by Historia's pussy
Easton Collins
>Look at this scared faggot Eren fags will defend this
Nips are indifferent on jews and no one outside of America even knows what white guilt is because it's a Southerner COPE after the civil war that they peddled to explain why the north spanked them.
>those damn yankees feeling guilty for the negros is why the war happened. not our fault at all
Justin Sanders
Historia x Eren forever
Blake Cruz
Lmao you are just mad I exposed a lot of you as backstabbing cunts Yes Anniepedo/Eruritrash, we know, Erenfags ate my dog. Wait, this hour...yep, you are the Ymircuck HAHAHAHAHAHA Historia likes cocks ;)
>no one outside of America Ignorant burger, Europe is aware with all those (((Bergs))) forcing us to have 55 genders or us mixing with other races. In Japan they laugh at us with all the obvious manipulation. Not like you Anniepedos are any smart to begin with
It's okay if you don't want to show your feet. Your schizoness is enough to prove yourself. Fuh, I've avoided a divorce right there.
Xavier Reyes
>3 weeks surely there will be more chapters
Tyler Lewis
Is CT the most braindead titan to use? >Hey Bert just sit there for 5 hours while Pieck infiltrates behind enemies lines or Zeke throw you in a position we already scouted and marked
Well, look, if you want me to respond you're gonna have to say something that's not just you repeating yourself or more empty bravado.
Why should I reward you if you're not willing to exert the effort? As for this whole bit on presuming to lecture me on 'growth' and whatnot... what do you imagine your relationship to me is, exactly? You're not my ancestor, my employer, or my friend. You're a random nobody on the internet, and... while I don't bear you any animosity for it, you ARE a self-admitted cucked white and therefore inferior to me.
I'm actually sort of confused by this. Seriously now, is this supposed to make me feel bad or something?
Cameron Ross
He's hot
Daniel Brown
Yeah, just because you say it it must be true. Japs don't care about anything that happens outside of Asia. Tomorrow's meltdown will be a sight, I eagerly await the cringe compilations.
Nicholas Evans
No, that Armored Titan. Just stand there and be a punching bag.
Landon Ward
>Well, look, if you want me to respond I genuinely didn't and I'm not reading this post past the first sentence nor will I read any reply past the first sentence. You're wrong, you can't stop being wrong. That's where you ended the conversation. it's over, Go feel superior about being wrong.
Jonathan Ortiz
No one cares, Bert is still the best He was better looking as a cadet
>I'm not reading this post past the first sentence nor will I read any reply past the first sentence Well, there you go, classic mark of the intellectual coward to be afraid of what someone else might say.
As I said, a broken machine.
Joshua Stewart
>Also you must be extremely dumb if you think the nationalist Yeagarists are portrayed as "good guys" You must be extremely dumb if you think anyone is supposed to be the "good guys". And fundamentally, the Yeagarists aren't even a nationalist group, they're a cult of personallity built around Eren because Flock needed to find meaning in his survivor's guilt.
>Nope. They'd be fine. Te 145th king literally designed the nation of Paradis with the knowledge that it would be destroyed. Yes, the nobles were out to maintain their power, but as another user noted, they were effectively parasites that considered themselves separate from the people they supposedly governed. In that case the issue wasn't that "us vs them" was wrong, it was that the ruling elite didn't count themselves among the "us" of the residents of Paradis, which is why they were deposed.
>Already tossing Us vs Them out the window. That isn't tossing the idea out the window, it's just redefining who constitutes each group. The nobles explicitly didn't think of themselves as part of the "us".
>Wrong, as shown by boyega people joined for different reasons. People doing things for personal reasons doesn't suddenly mean they're not party to what those in their group are doing. Boyega says he couldn't resist Yelena because she'd just kill him, but in reality there wasn't that much stopping him from doing the same to her.
>is about the complexity of conflict That's exactly true, which is why you should stop being a retard that's trying to boil everything down into a basic moralizing story about the evils of a particular position.
>Except Boyega and Nicolo show that some of them genuinely care about and want to help the islanders. I didn't say they all were. But in the same way the Yeagerists are Eren's useful idiots, the foreign movement on Paradis were Zeke and Yelena's useful idiots. Not to mention Hizuru, who were only out for themselves.
Henry Martinez
you won't get the satisfaction of my full attention. You've proven yourself unworthy.
A person can think neo-nazis are retards and also see paralells between Eldians and whites user.
Also, look at Grisha's, and Eren's, later actions. They let go of their hatred but still persist in fighting for the sake of their people. You don't have to blindly hate someone in order to fight them.
>You must be extremely dumb if you think anyone is supposed to be the "good guys".
Just because all sides in this conflict have dirt on them doesn't make them equal. The AMJC plus LH are the closest we have to good guys, although the warriors also get rather sympathetic portrayals.
>And fundamentally, the Yeagarists aren't even a nationalist group, they're a cult of personallity built around Eren because Flock needed to find meaning in his survivor's guilt.
Their cult only exists because of the false image they've built up around Eren based on what they think he wants to do. They want to establish a new empire based off of the glory days of old they've heard stories about, that's as nationalist as you can get.
>Te 145th king designed the nation of Paradis Wrong, he founded it on pacifism because he was tired of Eldians killing Eldians. It's because of this pacifism that he wouldn't fight back even after making the empty threat of the rumbling. It's also the reason urie didn't kill kenny.
>it was that the ruling elite. The point is that the ruling elite was a part of the "us" despite also being the enemy of the "us" and they got their way for so long by pivoting to the "them" of titans.
>it's just redefining who constitutes each group. If your "us" and "them" shift, there is no us and them. that's the point. all titans are bad until you or you close friends are titans and then you're crying when they die.
>People doing things But it shows how complex that group actually is.
>evils Not the evils of a position, the rejection of that position. Nationalism in SnK isn't portrayed as evil, it's portrayed as simple and ineffective because things are more complex than "us and them"
>They want to establish a new empire based off of the glory days of old they've heard stories about, that's as nationalist as you can get. I'm not that user, but what you're describing isn't Nationalism. It's Imperialism.
Nationalism is the ideology that one's nation should come first. Floch and co are willing to poison, beat, and even kill members of their nation, so they're not nationalists.
Imperialism is the ideology that one should extend political power over other nations in order to rule them, usually by forming an Empire. Floch and co keep using the terminology of Empire, calling Paradis as 'The New Eldian Empire' and attributing victories to it and such.
Jack Foster
He's Erenfag, do you really need any explanation?
Jason Gray
why is floch so smug?
Jackson Thomas
By your logic, Hitler wasn't a nationalist either
John Price
He won't be so smug when he gets eaten by Nile and Pixis.
Jace Ortiz
>Usually this is not one of those cases
Chase Allen
Eren's goal is to end the hatred that's persisted for millenia, as he told Zeke. But he also wants to do it a certain way that's inherently more dangerous and will almost certainly sacrifice more Eldian lives than the alternative. So his desire to protect Eldians (and it's really just the island Eldians at that) seems more of a secondary goal.
I hate yurifags but i don't think that is what he means thougb. On the contrary he likes preggo Historia and he hopes she can play a big role in the future, which seems to be pretty likely because she might be an important Eren's ally right now.
Oliver James
Right, Hitler wasn't a Nationalist. He was a Teutonic Supremacist and Teutonic Imperialist.
Yeah, yeah, I know he was the leader of a party called the 'national socialists,' but when it comes to political parties the label often doesn't describe what's in the tin. Just look at North Korea, the "Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea."
Jacob Jones
Nationalists have never had qualms with punishing/purging "disloyal" members who don't share their outlook.
I just want Shadis to eat him. It'd be the most poetic justice.
Xavier Jones
>Just because all sides in this conflict have dirt on them doesn't make them equal. I didn't say they were equal, I said that it's clearly not a black and white moralizing story. For example, while Armin is shown to generally be a good guy, the story recently presents his line of thinking to be overly naive and flawed, leading him to rationalizations about Eren that are obviously untrue, and arguably having him backtrack on his earlier views of the world out of an optimistic hope that peace between all parties can be achieved just by talking things over.
>They want to establish a new empire based off of the glory days of old they've heard stories about, that's as nationalist as you can get. That's not nationalistic, that's imperialistic. The Yeagarists are actually a splinter faction that has no loyalty towards Paradis as a national entity, but instead to a greater Eldian restoration across the world. As was noted earlier, they aren't fighting to secure their own existence, but for supremacy over the entire world.
But they do. I don't know what it's like where you are, but find any American in the modern day who self-identifies as a Nationalist and ask them if they would be up for punishing/purging Americans who don't share their outlook.
They'll usually tell you some variant of 'we're all Americans and we need to work together'
Jeremiah Parker
your narrow definition of nationalism isn't relevant to the discussion at hand
Eli Martin
The new Eldian empire is obviously not a national idea, it's an imperial one. Again, they're not fighting for Paradis, or even for the security of Eldians in general, but specifically to found a new empire.
Christopher Sanders
The discussion is about if Floch and the Yaegerists are a representation of nationalism or imperialism though.
Bentley Foster
Her development throughout the last part of Clash and the entirety of Uprising, which I personally thought were excellent on their own and compliment the themes of the story up to that point particularly well. Where her character went from the timeskip onwards and where it's headed now is still up in the air, although there's enough material to male educated guesses and speculations, but I'm waiting for the inevitable flashbacks to get a clearer picture. Don't really feel like making yet another wall of text about her though, since you seem to be baiting, anyway.
Evan Brooks
>find any American in the modern day who self-identifies as a Nationalist and ask them if they would be up for punishing/purging Americans who don't share their outlook.
Is this a joke? These people are the type to accuse anyone with left of center beliefs of being anti-american communists.
>They'll usually tell you some variant of 'we're all Americans and we need to work together'
Because to say otherwise is politically incorrect. Again, the knee jerk response from people like that is that to disagree with their beliefs makes one unamerican.
Jack Powell
>They'll usually tell you some variant of 'we're all Americans and we need to work together' I've never seen a lie foul. The fools literarily chant for their president to imprison his political opponents
Jason Clark
I hate yurifags but i don't think that that user is part of them. On the contrary, that user likes preggo Historia and hopes she can play a big role in the future, which seems to be pretty likely because she might be an important Eren's ally right now.
typo again
Jeremiah Johnson
Well, it's on an anecdotal level, but I've had nothing but attempts at solidarity from nationalists despite not being in their camp.
John Fisher
>Another typo yeah, you're too stupid for me to be wasting my time on
Why are you even reading? People can't like Eren and Historia?
Angel Barnes
Manga Kruger looked a lot better
Zachary Ramirez
Hans is manlet's tea
Cooper Evans
Yes it's Jean
Luis Rogers
New bread is baked It's a best bread
Andrew Campbell
I've had the exact opposite of this experience. I've told American nationalists about how over the last decade or so I'd come to identify less and less as an American, and they all made efforts to try and sympathize and get me back in the fold.
Brody Lopez
Gross(adjective)
Parker Gray
justify that S+ tier burrito please, user-kun
Henry Watson
it's unclear what imperial ambitions Floch and the Yaegerist have outside of defending the "new Eldian empire"
Charles Edwards
Have we seen more than one frame of him?
Daniel Green
Mikasa, Pieck and Annie are in S+ it's clearly a waifufag
Elijah Powell
>Wrong, he founded it on pacifism because he was tired of Eldians killing Eldians. He explicitly said that if Paradis was to be wiped out, he'd accept it out of atonement for Eldia's past crimes. It was a form of extreme pacifism where he wouldn't do anything to defend his people from death. The nobles, by never doing anything to seriously safeguard their people and sacrificing them at will, were effectivly backing that position, though for selfish reasons.
>The point is that the ruling elite was a part of the "us" But it wasn't. They very explicitly weren't Eldian and didn't consider themselves part of Paradis as a nation, they viewed their subjects as slaves.
>and they got their way for so long by pivoting to the "them" of titans. Debatable, they mostly just secretly killed or mass sacrificed people. The threat of the Titans was never much justification for what they were doing.
>If your "us" and "them" shift, there is no us and them. that's the point. all titans are bad until you or you close friends are titans and then you're crying when they die. The parameters of what constitutes a group can shift and still be valid on a basic level. Also it's arguable whether or not Eren was crying for Bert or Armin, but either way him feeling sympathy for the warriors doesn't suddenly put them on the same side.
>But it shows how complex that group actually is. >it's portrayed as simple and ineffective because things are more complex than "us and them" Complex situations can have simple solutions. I'd say the critisism isn't simplicity, it's rote ignorance.
Christopher Moore
he was the coolest guy
Ayden Bailey
So how's that relevant to what I was saying? The point is that he's not fighting out of ignorant hatred.
Luke Bell
No you can't, if you do you are an EHcuck by default who sees Pisstoria as a trophy for muh male mc and can't accept that she's just an irrelevant preggo cumdump. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go throw up a little.
>These people are the type to accuse anyone with left of center beliefs of being anti-american communists. That doesn't equal political purging though.
>Again, the knee jerk response from people like that is that to disagree with their beliefs makes one unamerican. Again, critisising someone for undermining your given group isn't the same thing as "purging the disloyal".
Exactly, it was pacifism not "knowing it would be destroyed."
>But it wasn't. It was. It's stated multiple times that they are, and they aren't ousted until the very end of the politics arc.
>They very explicitly weren't Eldian Speed reader. it's that their families minds couldn't be wiped like the ackerman family who are also eldians. Either way we didn't know there was a such thing as eldians when this arc happened. it was humanity vs titans. showing you really didn't read pre-marely attack on titan.
>The threat It's how they got away with it. A neat paralell is Eren saying titans were the ones keeping humanity in the wall and then it being shown the nobles also were keeping humanity in the walls.
>The parameters not when your groups are binary. It's not that they were on the same side but rather people on different sides that could've been friends if not for the bigger conflict they were in.
if you think solutions are simple you've missed the point of the manga.
Easton Ortiz
wow i was completely blind to that mikasa . i guess people really do see what they want
Elijah Wilson
Imagine Gabi being chained down and busting inside of her anytime you wanted, until you are completely drained then snapping her neck when you get bored of her
>Exactly, it was pacifism not "knowing it would be destroyed." It was self-destructive pacifism.
>It was. It's stated multiple times that they are, and they aren't ousted until the very end of the politics arc. Ignorance of who the nobles were doesn't change the facts of the situation. They were NEVER part of the "us", they were manipulative parasites out for their own power at the expense of the people they supposedly governed.
>Speed reader. it's that their families minds couldn't be wiped like the ackerman family who are also eldians. Their minds not being altered always meant they were of a different ethnicity. We didn't know what Eldians were, but we still knew they were different from the general population on a fundamental level. Again, the parameters of the conflict changing and becoming more complex doesn't suddenlly mean there's no "us" or "them", it just means what comprises those things changes.
>It's how they got away with it. Not much, no. The interior police, for example, were basically fanatics for the true king. They never did anything on the basis of the justification of the titans, and the nobles themselves didn't really offer that as reasoning either, at least not reasoning that anyone actually believed.
>not when your groups are binary. Us and them isn't a binary grouping system though. Both terms can mean many things depending on the circumstances.
>if you think solutions are simple you've missed the point of the manga. Right now it's looking like the solution will just be total genocide for one of the groups.
Xavier Campbell
>They were NEVER part of the "us" there was never an "us" user. That was the point. at the start being human was being "us". But then titans could be "us", then people could be "them". Do you think the Marely arc exists just to flesh out the people on Eren's kill list? No, swapping to Reiner POV is just further destruction of the us vs them because at that point it doesn't exist.
>they were of a different ethnicity they were mutts like ackermen but agreed with the King's wall plan. Please stop inserting headcanon where there is pretense.
>parameters of the conflict That's exactly what it means.
>Not much Did you also speed read past the part with parallels of people believing the titans were keeping them in the walls but in reality it was the nobles.
> Us and them It literally is. If your black and white turns into magenta and green you don't have a black and white system.
>genocide Think bigger
Justin Fisher
>there was never an "us" user. There clearly was. Just because people were ill-informed that doesn't mean they weren't on different sides, the Marley arc was just showing that side and their perspective, they're still us and them to each other even if they're sympathetic to each other, they're still in conflict.
>Please stop inserting headcanon where there is pretense. How is that headcanon? They literally weren't Eldian, and we basically knew that at the time even if the terms hadn't been specifically presented yet. Their ethnic difference was always a factor since the memory wipe was explained.
>That's exactly what it means. Yes? That's just a way to describe the different groups that are opposed to one another.
>Did you also speed read past the part with parallels of people believing the titans were keeping them in the walls but in reality it was the nobles. In reality it was both. Arguably still more the titans actually, given that the nobles still allowed expeditions beyond the walls by the scouts.
>It literally is. If your black and white turns into magenta and green you don't have a black and white system. Us and them is literally not a black and white system, each term can mean different things depending on the context of the situation.
>Think bigger Omnicide, whatever. It's still a simple solution in effect.
Kayden Ross
each term can mean different things depending on the context of the situation. You just ecplained why us vs them doesn't work. You're agreeing with me.
Dominic Ward
Hw is that supposed to mean it doesn't work? In WWII the allied forces and the axis powers were the "us" and "them" for each other,, afterwards the "us" split into the Eastern and Western powers, just because the situations were hugely complex and changed over time that doesn't mean there wasn't an us/them alignment in a general sense.