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Chapter 115 Spoilers(?)
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The Firefly's Jealousy Grows...if the spoilers are true.
Title: The Clockwork Firefly Singes on The Light Snow "X"
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Two years ago, Rizu, now a high school student, went to her grandmother's grave. Rizu remembered what her grandmother had told her, that to visit her once she's strong to win at any game she's being challenged, but she paid no attention to it. She had been wondering that if she would understand her grandmother's feeling if she became stronger.

Half a year had passed since she and Fumino had known each other from the tutor assignment. Mafuyu was the tutor at the time, and had ordered them to change their subject. Rizu flat out refused, stating that she has no rights to deciding what she should do with her life. Fumino tried to stop the two from fighting, but made a blunder and pulled down their skirts instead.

Initially, Rizu didn't open her heart to Fumino, whose personality is a complete opposite of hers. Even after Fumino tried to invite Rizu over for Christmas, the latter refused. Sensing the same dashi scent that Rizu gives off, Fumino realized where Rizu's place is, and suddenly came by. By the flow of how things went, Fumino was helping out the shop, and Rizu was impressed at how Fumino understood the customer's feelings.

It was then when Rizu noticed that Fumino is "someone she wants to become, but can't become".

That was the past that Rizu told to Nariyuki. However, she's already beyond that, and thanks to Nariyuki, Rizu had also grown that she can understand people's feeling much better than before, and has more self-confidence.

Reminder that Urukaniggers are cancerous and that they are not welcome in these threads.

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Around that time, Fumino went back to the shop because she had forgot her pencil case. Fumino told Nariyuki that it's not good to leave Rizu on the outside while she's in Santa Costume, and told him to be careful of that. Rizu noticed the amount of trust between Nariyuki and Fumino, and was proud of herself for becoming able to understand other people's feelings...but she then interrupted their conversation without much thought. Rizu told them that she doesn't feel too well, and left.

Rizu thought that she'd be able to like herself once she began to understand people's feeling, but what's really revealed is her detested self. This is why she hates herself. From the following day, Rizu has not show up to the study session.

Translated by: LadyRuneReader

>but made a blunder and pulled down their skirts instead.

Based

Fumino a shit

Well that was fast. By the looks of it, Rizu seems to be jealous of Fumino. It's not super clear but seeing how things went that's why hates herself probably. She now understands feelings and probably feels bad for being jealous of her friend. Also with the skirt pulling, this might be our first real pantyshot in the manga.

I can already see where this is going, Rizu will realize that she loves Nariyuki and that she's no match for Fumino when it comes to her chemistry and closeness with him. She may try to put a challenge but she's already painted as the loser
Literally paving the way for a Fumino end

Yeah, my interpretation is that now that she understands herself better, she's aware of her envy and is ashamed of it. So she hates herself for that. Obviously, she's going to have to learn to just be proud of herself.

Sounds like a great chapter.
Too bad Fuminofags will ruin the threads once again.

>sensei was their tutor 2 years ago
this roughly puts her around 24 at the minimum

One of them is already here trying to start shit. Best we can do is ignore them.

user, Piano-chan was before Asumi, much less Rizu and Fumino.

28!!

>Piano-chan was before Asumi
Do we know that for sure?

>what's really revealed is her detested self. This is why she hates herself.
Huh?

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Finally some interesting backstory. So neither Rizu or Fumino are on good terms with Mafuyu. Their reaction to her relationship with Nariyuki would be priceless.

>before Asumi, much less Rizu and Fumino
Asumi is only 1 year older than them though.

I bet she will end up realizing both her and Fumino's feelings by the end of this.

Change "detested" to "detestable".
Not 100%, but Asumi only knew the cold Mafuyu, which is only after piano girl.

Asumi was in 2nd year when sensei was their tutor, Hino probably was 3 years ago
>21 during Piano chan
>22 when she tutored Fumino and Rizu, Asumi is in her 2nd year
>23 last year, Asumi's last year
>24 current year
expect her birthday to make her a Christmas Cake to reference her name, hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Christmas ends up being her birthday

>She thought she'd be able to like herself once she understood feelings but instead she sees the self that she detests. This is why she hates herself.
I don't get it, what is it trying to convey?

you don't get to know all the teachers in a single year and Mafuyu seems to teach only to the Seniors

She hates herself because she's jealous.
It's not that complicated, user.

Where did it say she's jealous?

From the context of what happened right before she left them.

Not that guy, but it's there in her assessment of how she wishes she could be Fumino. Mind you, the right term is envy rather than jealousy, but people often fail to make the distinction.

user, you are as autistic as Rizu.

She's both envious and jealous at the same time though.

that much was obvious from her introduction, both of them described her as a cold person and if the mock interview chapter is anything to go by their study sessions must have been very mentally taxing, if by some miracle we get a sensei end they would have to mend their differences before graduation for them to accept them as a couple

But she already said that she could finally understand other peoples' feelings

Yeah and now she is jealous of the relation of Fumino and Nariyuki.

Rizu interrupted them, then walked off saying she felt bad because in that moment, her awareness of feelings made her take note of the closeness of the other two, and it turn, it made her very jealous.
And now that she's aware of that, she feels like shit because, well, jealousy is a bit of an ugly emotion.

do you think rizu would get an abortion if she became with child?

>Fumino tried to stop the two from fighting, but made a blunder and pulled down their skirts instead.
Fumino finally does something useful.

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>it made her feel jealous
That was never stated

Fucking retard.

Rizu IS an abortion.

Because it's not fucking necessary unless you are a big autist. Reiji pls sleep.

R-Rizubros, this is a big loser flag

>rent free Boogeyman Urukafag
Sasuga.

Explain

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Based sensei making them all lose.

If anything it's a big winner flag.
The arc will end with her confessing.

Not that user but
>first to confess
>winner flag

I don't see this as a loser flag, but you just contradicted yourself. If the arc did end with her confessing, then that would be a real loser flag.

The series is almost done so confessing now will be a big boost.

>Fumino - Sisterzoned
>Uruka - Australiazoned
>Rizu - jealousyzoned
>Sensei - I want to make you happyzoned
Tsutsui couldn't have made it more obvious even if he tried

The key word is almost, confessing first is still suicide.

I think this is basically shaping up the inevitable Fumino vs Rizu for the endgame.

It could end with a deep bonding moment. Like I'm awake.

She hates herself because she's the worst girl.

>I'm awake
>deep bonding moment

that'sthejoke.jpg

It's getting harder to tell who's being sarcastic with all the shit that gets posted in these threads.

Uruka a shit.

Generally, the ESL posts about it are serious.

Uruka a best.
Fumino a shit.

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>series ends with him not getting with any girl
How would you respond?

If the winner won't be Rizu or Sensei, then I'd rather get that desu.

justice is served

*sensei end

It's getting to the point where JB has to deliberately mistranslate (like the ghost loli in Chapter 111) to hide where it's going.

>This hairstyle is too much work for the chapters that had it.
>It's a BD cover exclusive now.

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Based. Fuck Uraka and fuck Urukafags. Fumino a best.

>Rizu wants to become the Fumino

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you're shit user

Cute clothes.

>waifufags BTFO
It's a dream scenario desu

Based. Fuck Fartmino and Fuck Fuminiggers. Uruka a best.

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I can't wait for Rizufags to sperg out when anybody critiques the story. Seriously Rizufags are so autistically defensive about their waifu it's not even funny

>you're Fumino user
wat

Uruka*

Uruka cuming for you

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>already plans on "criticizing" the story without even reading the whole arc
Thanks for warning us about your future shitposts so we can ignore them.

t.""""senseifag""""

So Sensei is a cheetah, Uruka is a Lion, Mizuki is a tiger, Kawase is a Zebra and Umihara is a giraffe. All of these are Savanna animals except Mizuki. What did they mean by this?

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>replying to bait
Just ignore the fucking faggot. He's desperate since he's been trying to pull his shit since thread started.

a best

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The anime deserves a better studio.

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t. Urukafag

Based best girl

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>we got Rizu/Fumino friendship backstory
This sounds better than some of the previous arcs already

Muh dick

That Mizuki is a shit and a mistake.

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Best girl.

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Mizuki tries hard but doesn't belong in thr Nariyukib Owl, Uruka is strong but only works in pack mode, Mafuyu will surprise solo ninja drop on Nariyuki in bed, and Fumino and Rizu lose.

Finally, a flashback story that covers how Fumino and Rizu met and became friends. With an added bit of Mafuyu was their previous tutor. Sounds nice.

But, this chapter didn't seem to allude as to why she hates herself as foreshadowed in the previous chapters cliffhanger. A wasted potential there.

>muh flat chest joke
22i we get it that fumino is shit

Based Urukabro. Let's show them who's boss.

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>But, this chapter didn't seem to allude as to why she hates herself as foreshadowed in the previous chapters cliffhanger
Are you retarded?

t. urukafagget

What?

Flat is justice.

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Tsutsui disagrees

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Pink is perfect.

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>this angle
I appreciate it, but it deflates the image of Rizu crying.

It's more likely Tsutsui, like most authors, is ironic with the small breasts complex jokes. If Fumino wins, then there's no doubt about it.

Truly look at that emotion, indeed. That's what I'm looking at.

No actually, on the contrary I'm genuinely hoping this arc is good but Tsutsui doesn't have the best record and I just don't want faggots getting defensive about every criticism they hear like the Fuminofags. Like to be serious for a moment, is it actually that hard to like a girl but also criticize obvious flaws in her arc? I don't see why you can't do both

Nope. Rizufag I take it?

Yep

>He's desperate since he's been trying to pull his shit since thread started
? My first reply bud. Oh who am I kidding, you'll just call everyone who disagrees with you the same person

>It's a Rizu spoiler & raw thread
>Uruka isn't even in the chapter, but Urukafags are compelled to engage in tedious shitfling and shoehorn Uruka anyways
Christ.

best girl Uruka is never irrelevant

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t. mad fuminofag

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Fags are mad because she is fucking off to australia.

Not that user, but the takeaway here is that she hate herself because now that she's more awareness of people emotions, she can sense that the moeboy and Fumino has good relationship going on, and she hate herself for the jealousy she felt toward her friends. The same can be said in the Seikijo glue chapter, she just spelled it out now.

>Sensing the same nakadashi scent that Rizu gives off

Shoehorning.

Except Rizu is my favorite. Fuck off.

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we should have listened

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Good, because this means Asumi end

>jealousy
That can't be it, right? Because....
>That was the past that Rizu told to Nariyuki. However, she's already beyond that, and thanks to Nariyuki, Rizu had also grown that she can understand people's feeling much better than before, and has more self-confidence.
this here indicates that she has more self-confidence now. She has grown.

>Moeboy must obtain the Kirisu-mas cake before she expires!

Rizu likes Uruka

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good chapter confirmed

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Also different guy, but I think he is correct. It is jealously, or at least that is what we are supposed to take from Rizu's emotional growth since then which has allowed her to recognize that she is jealous now. I guess she hates knowing and feeling it.

japanese firefly symbolism very powerful

No, it indicates that she finally understands what jealousy is, and hates that she's feeling that way.
It's seriously not that hard to understand. Why are you dumbasses finding it so complicated?

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Don't firefly have short lives? Fleeting existence that burns brightly, but death quickly catches up to them to snuff out their light into oblivion.

>No pantyshot
Hack. But Sensei's no skirt stand. Oh boy.
Kino.
Jealousy. As expected.

they live for a year which I guess is decent for bugs

Okay. Well, I will take that as a grain of salt until scanlation is out. Or better yet wait and see how the arc unfolds.

Reminder to not reply at the obvious falseflagging hater. Since they actually started shit in the thread they have to resort to new shitpost stratagems. Not that they're actually new tho.

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aww yiss another sensei glare

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>Fumino has star symbolism
>Rizu has firefly symbolism

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To clarify, the jealousy she had in the past was related to her "incompetence" in understanding humans emotions, and she had gotten over that. But the jealousy she had right now is stemming from her love for the moeboy, it's understandable that she's conflicted about it because it can happen to almost anyone really, and given it's Rizu the effect is even stronger.

As some say, they are cancer for a reason.

What will Uruka symbolism be?

Stars explode in a spectacular way. In fact Fumino losing will be spectacular.

Australia.

The little mermaid.

>billions of years vs 1 year
Uh oh.

Reiji was the beloved star though

Roger

he's a lucky guy
had a cute wife
has a nice son
actually maybe he's not so lucky

Stars are long dead, Fumino lost from the very start

By laughing at everyone in this thread
>So that's it, huh. We really never learn™

My prediction:
>Nariyuki discussing the girl he likes with Fumino in vague hypotheticals like the discussion he had with Rizu during the cockroach chapter
>Fumino asks him whether he's talking about Rizu or Uruka
>Neither.
>Fumino stammers, blushes, and is about to say she likes him too.
>"The one I like is Mafuyu-sensei."
>Angry washboard noises and BSoD

蛍雪の功 is the main theme of bokuben
having the arc title involve both fireflies and snow is promising for fans of rizu

If only bro, if only.

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>>"The one I like is Mafuyu-sensei."

user, I...

Aknowledging priorities and live for your dream. Simply put, swimming makes her happier than being with Nariyuki. That's why she chose it. And she will be happy.

Rizu is the most interesting heroine.

>a sensei
>winning
Pick one.

I think it could happen precisely because it's a callback and parallel to Rizu's first brush with rejection. We've seen a few of these repeating themes pointing to Mafuyu for a while now. A sensei winning out of left field because readers were too used to decades old static meta would be a great "the audience never learns" title drop.
>yes I'm applying literary analysis to cheap harem manga to show why my waifu will win

Also with the exams wrapping up in December there's a Marry Kirisu-mas pun that I think 22i might be unable to resist just for the memes.

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She really is.
Too bad most of the fanbase is too braindead to appreciate her.

G-Force!

10/10

Also it won't be a 3 parter it seems. Hoping for a 5 parter.

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I feel like this is the first time we saw Fumino wearing the school blazer properly. That's cute.

What I am seeing here.

I like your post my dude

Unless this will only have a single confession.

Mermaid?

Aggressive mindset means she will lose. Like Nino. It's more meta stuff adding up honestly. Unless Tsutsui is shaping this up to be the biggest tropebreaker ever, Fumino's low-pretense relationship with Nariyuki and natural behaving, coupled with the positive aspect of putting friends first really marks her as the positive and main heroine. The fact that her screentime is also low is further testament that she will have a bigger chunk of development after, probably in the form of another arc.

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Reiji is a blessing.

I wonder how will they cope.

>Unless Tsutsui is shaping this up to be the biggest tropebreaker ever
He is.

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Rizu end is less likely now. The rival main heroine is revealed to be jealous of MC and her rival's relationship is more often than not a death sentence.Moreso when said MC and rival's relationship is still at the platonic stage.
Fumino end seems more likely now.

Nice try Urukanigger. Your falseflag means nothing as it's well known Fuminofags don't start shit unless you are the Fuminofags.

I'm a Rizufag but sadly I have to agree. There's no bigger loser flag than a girl having a jealousy realization at another girl being closer to the MC. Tsutsui will religiously follow his cliches and make the long dark haired heroine win in the end.

What does that have to do with the post you replied to?

Muh endgame that's what. Couldn't go without mentioning it.

Nothing really. That post was appreciating a girl. Some fags seem to be particularly insecure about characters being appreciated.

Above 0% possibility of could, yes, but not realistically forseeable. A major paradigm shift that is indicative to Sensei end needs to occur first if the author decides to go with her near the story's end.

Alright, this arc is actually looking not that bad. Better than Fumino and Asumi for sure.

It was mostly a thought that came by. I should have added a but at the beginning of the post. I mean she's getting some interesting development "but...". That's what I meant.

fumino is probably going to win, but that won't suddenly make her any more interesting or better than the other heroines

I hope there are no laptops involved in the end

Still doesn't have anything to do with it

>A major paradigm shift that is indicative to Sensei end needs to occur first
What the fuck do you think the ice flower arc was?

it's already better than sensei shit arc

The sound of coping Urukafags. Truly music.

Nice try Fuminofag.

I'd hate myself too if I was Rizu.

In before "Nope, Urukafag".

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Theres no say its a sensei end. Tsutsui isnt gonna do it but If it was it would cement it as one of my favourites. But its gonna end with Fumino. I'd like Rizu though out of the two.

more like everyone who's not a fuminofag

Nothing personnel side heroinefags.

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Fumino looks miles better with that body

Nice boogeyman.

Long time no see Fumino Azul.

It will be interesting to see how this scene gets surpassed.

Where's Sawako though

Best part of the chapter is that there's no Sawako for shitters to use and downplay Rizu.

they'll just say it's boring then

Like so

or now that I think about it, there's some Fumino for them to jerk off to so maybe not

Better than using Sawako for shitposting.

>Reiji has star symbolism
>Rizu has firefly symbolism

Time to twist things and come up with a new narrative that fits my bias!

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Standard development that doesn't spell winner.

Azul is blue. That's Fumino black.

Fumino is better and interesting though.

Is that the new grasping at straws argument now that the pet one doesn't seem to work much anymore?

None of the other girls can. This late in the game it would be a bigger ass pull than the laptop. The only one who can top that scene is Mafuyu herself.

You're not paying attention.

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Amen to that.

>implying Fumino and Asumi's arcs were bad
I would who's behind this post.

Better than who? I'd give you Asumi. Also interesting how? The only "conflict" going for her is realizing whether she likes Nariyuki and that has been going since chapter 20 or so.

They were fucking trash.

Answer the question.

I'm not even the first user you replied to. Stop acting like this is an upopular opinion.

The guy you're replying to is the guy who massively downplays any complaints against their arcs by saying it's that one guy with the same complaints every time without actually refuting any of them. Don't bother.

>too afraid to answer it
Thought so.

All of them.
>how
She has the longest on-going platonic dynamic and also the largest potential of that turning into something more. Then add in the fact she's subconsciously conflicted about feelings she don't realise herself. She development will be most interest in due time.

I said she's getting some development. She was a pet before but Tsutsui remembered that he relegated Rizu to a status below main heroine and is finally catching up. I wouldn't have waited so much tho, as the bias is now painfully obvious. A shame since the dual heroine premise was interesting but Tsutsui blowed it up by giving early interesting chapters to Fumino and overusing fanservice in Rizu chapters.

They are actually forced extreme opinions in these threads because of waifufags.

>it's a delusional ESL Fuminofag
Everytime.

>it's the ESL born and raised in the US again

How so? By comparison, second chapter of Fumino arc was looking not bad and was pretty good by itself.

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bro you don’t have to be contasntly upset that people prefer a side character to a main. They make like 5 comments per thread max, and only when she appears. As opposed to every other character

You're clearly mistaking fumino with rizu.

Oh shit now it's gonna cry samefag

Not your boogeyman. It's 3 AM and I'm half zombie on my bed. Give me a break.

I didn't.

>The costume kiss in the festival arc has a large potential of turning into something more. Add in the fact that she's still subconsciously conflicted about her own feelings and theres a huge chance that the costume kiss will trigger something big in the upcoming chapters

I hope his whole family gets ordered deported and then shot for resisting arrest.

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Chapter 2 is Fumino going full fanservice antic to lose time for half a chapter, same for chapter 3 except multiplied by 10 million as that chapter was already skippable. This is the second chapter and we're already at the bone of the issue while Fumino's arc really starts saying something after 4 chapters.

>boogeyman
You wish. There's always some ESL Fuminofag who can't even conjugate verbs in these threads and thinks his badly written opinions are worth shit.

Don't bother. People who refuses to submit to their narrative is shoved into Fumino chink/SEA/ESL/tard/shitter samefag.

All I see is someone desperate to sell weak meta narrative.

>it was accidental
>huh, cool
Nice

>platonic dynamic
After Chapters 100-111 that's arguing for second place.

Fumino is definitely not better than Mafuyu, Rizu and Uruka. Even secondary girls like Sawako are better

Very interesting.

Fitting. As you are a speedreader. Rizu is still a secondary heroine that got late development as a patch. You're just in denial.

Auto correct is shit and I'm to tired to proofread everything. Rent free more why don't you.

Whatever.

It won't stay like thst forever. Just wait and see.

>People who refuses to submit to their narrative is shoved into
>talking to himself in his ESL speech again
Kek. At least finish your English classes before coming here to pretend to be multiple people.

Fumino will pull a Chitoge over Kosaki (Rizu). Tears from other waifufags, especially Urukafags (Marikafags) will be more entertaining than the manga. Mark my words.

See? Point in case.

Sure,"auto correct".

>It won't stay like thst forever
Its been staying that way for 100+ chapters. I'm pretty sure the evidence is against you.

You don't call others speedreaders and then proceed to make speedread comments in the same post ruifag.

Back to school you go.

Fumino is likely going to win, user. Do you honestly think it won't change?

Last time a Fuminofag tried to compare Fumino to Chitoge got BTFO when he denied Chitoge's realization after 50 chapters. Fumino is not comparable in any way.

Crawl back to your mother's womb, Urukashitter.

Post pages from the manga that support your claims. The way I see it, Fumino hasn't been "winning" since before chapter 80.

Evidence platonic relationship isn't evidence of definite non-progression. Development exists to change that.

Damn son, you sure showed me with that kiddy retort.

My main issue with this, is if this arc is Rizu’s final arc, and it doesn’t include Sekijou, then the latter will barely have any more appearances. A shame, but then if she showed up I would care much less about Rizu.

Did you miss ?

I dunno user, over the past 100 chapters others have been changing but not Fumino

Other girls have had more development outside of their feelings for Nariyuki. Fumino has barely anything outside them.

He said will win, not that she has been winning. Check your reading comprehension.

More boogeyman.

>fumino is goin to win because of meta!
>everyone else is going to lose because of meta!
>lack of narrative? who cares! here's more meta!

Easy prediction. The best is saved for last. The last girl standing.

Sawakofags are the worst.

Cant win the race if you don't leave the starting line user

Why are Urukafags always afraid of meta? Always crying about meta but only when it's Fumino's.

>Easy prediction
One recurrent pattern so far is that all the scuminofags (easy) predictions ended up with duds.

The reverse is equally applicable. You're being a retard.

>uruka
>meta

There's no meta about uruka, she has a very concrete narrative about moving away physically and emotionally.

All I did was say that her being there would make me care about the main focus less, I didn’t say anything about Rizu being bad. Don’t be a nuisance

I knew this would happen. Fuminofags sniffed a chapter where a character is developing romantically and began their dissection and pointing to endgame out of insecurity. The side-shitfling of usual same/falseflag/boogeyman implication is just sugar on top.

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Miharu a cute

Those aren't pages from the manga.

There's no way to get from "hasn't been winning" to "will win" without retarded ass pulls. Not this late in the game.

Go beg for a sawako spin off instead.

Because Rizufags don't push Rizu out of meta implications. They mostly post Rizus and ignore the shitfling which surprsingly gets discussions way healthier.

stop whining that people like a side character mang

Likely. There's only Rizu and Fumino. Being that, if Rizu moves on and reached emotional acceptance and is happy with her personal growth, she'll drop out and support Nariyuki x Fumino.

What you said isn't even true. We'll get one more rotation minimum and Sawako gets tossed in every 2 rotations as she always was.

You can find narratives for both rizu and sensei, when it comes to fumino you have to resort to meat to come up with an argument. Why do you think meta is solely use to
1 - promote fumino
2 - downplay rizu and sensei
instead of using actual arguments?

They're going to be beyond booty blasted if this arc doesn't end with Fumino winning. Threads will be ugly for weeks.

And flexible! What's the tag for threesome with two sisters?

Like the dark deep meaning of the father issues and the follow up to the Kiss?

Stop begging for side characters screentime.

Are you kidding? The story is maybe only halfway done. Hell, none of the girls have been winning. It's obvious as hell given the rate and direction of the story, the girl Nariyuki decides on will happen in the final stretch.

What are you saying? Rotations were usually 1 chapter for each girl, so if Sekijou appears, it’ll probably be in Rizu’s, so one more appearance isn’t that much. I know she has little reason to show up if not to interact with Rizu much.
I didn’t, I made an innocuous comment that you took offense to.

Urukafags are toxic.

Irrelevant. Their points are reasonably valid. Even Rizufags can see it.

>The story is maybe only halfway done

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Ruifags are toxic.

FTFY

I love Rizu

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>The story is maybe only halfway done.
They have exams in a month story-time, and graduation shortly thereafter. They're all going to separate colleges. It is in fact getting close. If you were counting on another twelve tanks to let Fumino catch up you're shit out of luck.

The muh shitoge autist that typically sperg at Fumino was BTFO? Damn, I missed that.

If we're not getting rotations anymore it means the manga is ending user. Therefore all the characters are having their last moments.

Bro you weren't supposed to point those out

Will Rizu win user-san?

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>month
>in romcom manga
You must be new to the concept of dragging and slow-paced plot.

Liking a side character and using her one panel appearance in a chapter to downplay another character are different things.

Good winners slowly undergo character development over the course of their stories and are never oveshadowed by other girls. Their romance is a natural consequence of their relationship with the MC.
Shit winners remain static and in denial about their feelings for most of their stories. They get overshadowed by more interesting girls. They only win because they were first girls or title girls.

Fumino is definitely the latter. I don't buy this argument about saving "best" for last, when that would only make her victory even cheaper. At this point, only two heroines have been undergoing development for most of the story and would make for a decently written endgame.

Domekano containment threads are the only way we can have decent bokuben ones.

I did nothing of the sort, she doesn’t even appear in this chapter. I downplay nothing, I express my enjoyment for her when she appears because I like her way more than Rizu. You’re putting intent that’s not there into my post.
True enough. But I can imagine a final arc with all the mains, but side characters may make a cameo at best.

Nope, the fuminofag who tried to equate Fumino to Chitoge got btfo

>I don't buy this argument about saving "best" for last

Uruka "spawn of the devil" Takemoto is getting the last girl arc.

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>SFX
>Rizu ぼにううん Boing
>Fumino スットン Bonk
Why does this shit make me laugh?

No. Sensei will unless 22i does a ridiculous asspull to justify Fumino.

I'm familiar with the pacing of BokuBen. Appeal to meta is gay.

Yes

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The manga has been running for 2 years plus. Only several months have gone by. A month or two with epilogue can add another year, give or take. And that's if the author doesn't decide to milk the manga. Regardless, there's nothing to stop Nariyuki from picking a girl near the end. The likely candidates by default have and still are Fumino and Rizu given everything we have seen. If you are that Senseifag who is HOPING for a Sensei end, then you better hope and pray harder to make that more likely.

Fumino looks like a joke next to Rizu.

It's Fumino chapter after all, its very rare so deal with it

Some endgame discussions and predictions are from Rizufags and Mafuyufags. But it's okay to conveniently ignore them and blame Fuminofags.

>Sensei will win
This Senseifag. Wow.

>both Rui and Fumino lose
Would be best timeline

Nisekoi ran for 4 years and a half and was vastly more popular than bokuben, it got multiple seasons and the manga even had to pad like crazy to get above 20 volumes. Bokuben is small potato in comparison and you can tell that 22i is only putting filler between arcs to give focus to other girls before finally moving to the climax.

He reminds me of Yoshinofags. Yoshinofags love to repeat and tell everybody that Yoshino makes sense but Aki is asspull with a straight face.

Uruka will win!

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Rui was never going to make it.

>Of course these developments will happen for Fumino
>What are you saying they can also happen for the other girls? That's impossible!

>Two years ago, Rizu, now a high school student
Yotsuba Flashback 2.0
>. From the following day, Rizu has not show up to the study session.
Rizu doing her Chitoge 2.0

Get used to it. That's how insecure anti-Fuminofags sell their narrative around here.

I like Uruka and all but you don't need to resort to meta to see that her narrative isn't pointing in that direction. Cute dream sequence though.

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Both Aki and Fumino a shit

Delusional.

Prove it with scans. NO META.

Mind pointing them?

>these developments will happen for Fumino!
>they didn't happen
>now these developments will happen for Fumino!

The more specific predictions are, the less likely they end up happening. I'll just point out that every time scuminofags used meta to predict where the story was going, it missed.

Unlikely. But she will forever be cute. And if she loses we get the lewd spin off. It's a win win to be honest.

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>lewd spin off
It just needs a good artist.

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>other fans are supporting their ship with material from the manga and without resorting to meta!
>They're like us who can't go one post without talking about muh endgame and how these cliches 100% guarantee it'll happen someday

...

It's not about hope, it's about character development. Rizu got put in the udon blob joke ghetto too long to win and Uruka got put on a bus to Australia. Fumino's chances peaked with the festival arc and have been diminishing since.

Yoshino and Uruka*

>Urukafag suddenly drops his delusion while he's hard coping and madly seething

Nino?

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Lol. But even Uruka has a better chance than Mafuyu.

A shit

It is because Sensei currently doesn't have adequate development that would make most average reader believe that she WILL win. She has a fair bit more personal development right now (very likely to be overtaken by Rizu after this arc), but that's it. Actual romantic development has yet to even begin. The arc that focus on romantic development is sure to be an all-girl arc to weed out the losers and left the remaining candidate(s) for last.

a best

Fuminobro here. I love Nino.

Nino > Yotsuba > Miku > Itsuki > Ichika
Fumino > Rizu > Asumi > Mafuyu > Uruka

Nah, I'm an Urukafag but I think sensei has a higher chance.

leave*

Half of those are agreeing with Fuminofags and pointing to Fumino endgame not their own girls', the last also as a first thing declares himself a Rizufag, not the usual behaviour. Also the Fuminofag post was reactionary and uncalled for and also played in a diminishing fashion which none of what you quoted did. And I pointed it out in the post. Not working, try somethig else.

>Actual romantic development has yet to even begin.
Ice rink.

Miku > Yotsuba = Ichika > Itsuki > Nino
Uruka > Mafuyu = Rizu > Asumi > Fumino

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Not romantic. Drop your headcanon.

>Not romantic. Drop your headcanon.
The headcanon is that it wasnt romantic

Nino>Yotsuba>Ichika>Itsuki=Miku
Sawako>Sensei>=Fumino>Asumi=Rizu>Uruka

>most average reader
You mean retards.

>Actual romantic development has yet to even begin
Even the average reader is nowhere as dumb as you are.

>they, Rizufags, think Rizu is less likely to win NOW because of this chapter, so they don't count
>But Sensei that claims Sensei will win counts
You're insufferable.

Invert Yotsuba and Miku and it's a deal

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What romance? Sensei wasn't after the D at all.

>headcanon

W H O O S H

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Whoever wins will probably be whoever Nariyuki chooses.
He clearly sees them all as friends apart from the strange relationship with Sensei but it's probably platonic from his side.
The only clear romantic thing from him was the brief jealously he showed towards Uruka but Uruka is likely to lose.

That isn't a good agrument.

>Half a year had passed since she and Fumino had known each other from the tutor assignment. Mafuyu was the tutor at the time, and had ordered them to change their subject. Rizu flat out refused, stating that she has no rights to deciding what she should do with her life. Fumino tried to stop the two from fighting, but made a blunder and pulled down their skirts instead.
Riot if no pantsu

amazingly shit taste
now this is more agreeable

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How is that relevant to your statement regarding romance? It's not.

>Whoever wins will probably be whoever Nariyuki chooses

Did you figure that out all by yourself?

>they
One fag. Arguably a Rizufag because one doesn't sign his posts with his fandom as first thing. The Sensei post doesn't resort to meta and is not reactionary.

You're right, she was after the moe.

No one believes that.

>but it's probably platonic from his side.
He's very much seen her as a woman since her maid chapter and he almost passed out from blood loss carrying her naked.

Whatever happened to Mafuyufags who used to say they weren't delusional and don't care about endgame because they knew Mafuyu's chance were close to nil?

That wasn't mainly directed at you, but at the usual Sawako shitposting in Rizu chapters.

Chapters 100-102 and 111 happened.

I meant by that that the girls' feeling don't really matter as much as Nariyuki's feelings do. It's obvious but people focus sorely on the girls in these discussions.

>Nino > Yotsuba > Miku > Itsuki >>> Ichika*
>Fumino > Asumi > Mafuyu > Rizu > Uruka*
I saw a couple of mistakes so I fixed them for you.

Argues endgame
>delusional
Says likely lose
>n-no fag you're seething and delusional
Sounds like you're just seething mad at seeing Uruka being posted. Here, seethe some more.

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I, for one, am not saying she's going to win or even demanding that she wins. I'm already satisfied with her having the most development and continued focus even if she doesn't win in the end.

>I meant by that that the girls' feeling don't really matter as much as Nariyuki's feelings do

Guys, water is wet.

You're clearly mixing up senseifags not caring about her winning and them being able to take the loss.

A few mins of searching archive proves otherwise. Everybody seems to do it, at one point or another. Legit posts and not ones used for bait, of course .Senseifag was meta. He ascertain parallelism and used themes to make a point.

You are legitimately insufferable.

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>high ground they used to stand on to complain at people who talk about engame and for being insecure (ironically so) because endgame discussions are bad in a harem ROMCOM genre
Oh no.

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>everybody seems to do it
>archive search
Oh yes? May I see? Or will you cry spoonfeeding. That's what you did some threads ago.

Fans need reminding of simple things. None of the girls are really ahead unless you count Sensei but I don't see it as possible endgame.
Sensei relationship is odd. There's more in the way of it so I can't see it happening but it's more intimate in some ways.

>low-pretense
>screentime is also low
Similar to Itsuki.

You seem bothered by people talking about endgame involving girls other than Fumino. Relax, everyone acknowledges that Fumino is the most likely winner, only because of meta. The difference is that you think winning solely because of meta is a good thing while the rest of fans think the opposite.

He'll point at a bunch of posts he made. Totally legit.

They started reading the manga

>There's no bigger loser flag than a girl having a jealousy realization at another girl being closer to the MC

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>None of the girls are really ahead unless you count Sensei but I don't see it as possible endgame.
HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>There's more in the way of it so I can't see it happening but it's more intimate in some ways.
Literally the only thing in the way is graduation and that's what, two months out in story time?

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>None of the girls are really ahead

Why do you think there's so much relying on meta narrative?

I never claimed not be delusional. I simply want a Sensei end because 22i packed her relationship with moeyuki with all the stuff good shoujos are made of.

It's not hard.
desuarchive.org/a/search/text/[ ]%20here/
Insert Replace [ ] with Fumino/Mafuyu/Sensei/Asumi/Senpai/Rizu/Urukafag

Some threads ago? You obviously mistake me for someone else. Though I doubt you care to fix the thought.

That doesn't count, stop trying to disprove """"Rizufag"""". Nice that he's also not replying at the falseflag accusations.

Isn't the KareEgo subplot a recognition of this?

That doesn't count. Miharu is not a main girl.

>only one person think it's good
Imagine being this delusional.

That guy is the Urukashitter. See .

Fumino is that far behind.

>Literally the only thing in the way is graduation
More than that actually. Sensei tells herself that Nariyuki doesn't ever mean anything by the accidental advances and Nariyuki thinks anything romantic with her is strictly out of the question since she claimed not to see him as a man. The floodgates on how intimate they've gotten will burst open once either fixes the misunderstanding.

The fuck is this shit? You found those. Link me the every Rizufag admitting Fumino will win. Nice that you dismissed every post saying otherwise as bait and false. You're full of shit once again.

I never said one person. Fuminofags of course would think it's good as long as their girl wins. They don't care if it's done well or if something happens purely because of cliches. Notice how they didn't reply to this because it's true.

>everyone
False. There are some Rizufags, Urukafags, and Mafuyufags who think their respective girl is likely to win.

So will the next chapter finally give us that long-awaited pantyshot?

>if it's arguing with Fuminofags it's an Urukafag
Nice that he pointed this very Boogeyman at Urukafags in reverse in the thread that derailed and got deleted

All the more chances for her to catch up in the future arc where she realizes her feelings.

You seem to miss how they more often than not address that their ships are unlikely to win.

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I wish she would die of stomach cancer already

What is this, an elaborate roundabout way to ruse your way out? You implied "real" Rizufags don't sign their post. Some Rizufags clearly have and pretty much everybody else do it.

The argument you are trying for now is a trap. Spoilers JUST came out a few hours ago and it's because of this chapter a couple of Rizufags see that Rizu has less of a chance now.

>Sensei tells herself that Nariyuki doesn't ever mean anything by the accidental advances
That stopped, actually. Now her protests are "wait for graduation" or "it's too early" or similar. She was visibly disappointed in chapter 111 when he turned out to be reacting to the ghost and not putting a move on her.

You're right about Nariyuki's perception problem, but Mafuyu seems to only be holding herself back until graduation, so it goes back to a simple time problem.

This is literally Jeb Bush logic.
>I didn't like being the front runner anyways.

>more often than not
That's still not everyone.

I already said why it doesn't count. Rizu is getting the loser flags.

I'd like to play Devil's advocate here. How can Rizu even hope to win against Fumino? Can you seriously see a shortstack winning against muh slim, tall and dark haired Japanese beauty in a harem manga?

Neither will win.

>I already said why it doesn't count

Your meta headcanon.

Since she's also one of the first 2 heroines, then it's possible.

>always post that panel and twist it as 'I love you' confession
>also always claim she is waiting for Nariyuki to graduate to justify pushing him away and controlling herself
>take these as a god sent sign of inevitable winner
Currently the strongest headcanon.

Cute. Nariyuki was trying to show to Fumino that he had learned stuff about the stars.but she doesn't notices

Its implied that if someone is jealous due to the closeness of the other main heroines with the MC, then it's a huge loser flag. Note the other main heroines clause. Miharu is hardly a main heroine, whereas Rizu being jealous of Fumino especially in her own arc are some huge signs that point to her loss

Basically pure meta talk. Not even surprised, that's all you understand.

And those are real Rizufags because you say so. You point at the past Rizufags always having been agreeing with Fumino being endgame and now you say they're changing opinion. I ask to point and you evade and not do it despite all you have to do is writing the post number. You're afraid of people pointing those posts as the obvious falseflag they are.

I'm not delusional, I know her chances are slim at best, but that doesn't mean I don't care about the end game, I would love her winning, and sometimes I post about what ifs, I post about my ideal way to develop the story, but I know that this isn't an ideal world, I knew what I was getting into when I jumped into this ship, I know there is an iceberg waiting near the end, so I just enjoy the ride in the mean time

>>also always claim she is waiting for Nariyuki to graduate to justify pushing him away and controlling herself
That's literally in the text of the manga in multiple chapters you dumb esl nigger.

God please deliver sweet justice.

It seems """"senseifag"""" doesn't even bother keeping up the appearances anymore

don't try to argue with these fuckers, they are known chapter skippers/speedreaders

You wish x 2.

What, are we not allowed to bring up meta now because it makes you unable to respond?

Mafuyu has never stated she's waiting for Nariyuki to graduate before she is willing to romantically pursue him. Go ahead and post all those multiple scenes to show otherwise. Protip: you can't and were BTFO about this two days ago using chapter 111.

No, you were unable to read text plainly posted in an image you stupid shitskin. I hope Trump gasses you all.

Previous page:
>*blush* STOP! DID YOU FORGET ABOUT WHAT YOUR MOTHER SAID!?
This page:
>AT THE VERY LEAST, WAIT UNTIL AFTER YOU'VE GRA-
Would you like to fill in the last word you goddamn troglodyte?

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>retards misinterpreting 111 again
111 proved that she is ok with him making advances on her as long as they are after graduation and her daydreaming of both of them in the bathtub showed that the thoughts of them being a couple certainly go through her mind
sensei always uses the teacher-student barrier to try to dismiss her feelings and gain control over them, but this excuse has an expiration date, after graduation, which she finally acknowledges in 111 and was brought up by other 2 characters in the previous 10 chapters, so the subject has certainly been on her mind ever since

Confirmed speedreader who missed chapter 106.

Delusional.

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Did we ever get LN spoilers?
I'm interested for Fumino Fixed.

Are you having a stroke? 106 was spelling this out for you.

>AT THE VERY LEAST... WAIT UNTIL AFTER YOU'VE GRADUATED!!!

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Based sensei, truly the shining beacon of hope in bokuben together with Rizu who hs the chance of getting the best arc so far.

In the end why I Rizu jealous?

Because Fumino is what she wants to be, and her relationship with Nairyuki, she doesn't understand yet she likes him that way.

sensei a best
uruka a shit

Both of them winning would make so much sense

You are a goddamn moron. She's reminding him of what his mom said. His mom misunderstood the situation and thought her son was gonna introduce a wife to her. As much as the thought made her happy, she told him to at least wait until he graduated. There's nothing in Sensei's lines and actions that states, or even suggest she is waiting for him.

No it didn't. That's retarded headcanon that distorts the truth. Sensei's slight defrosting from ice teacher is only that, and separate from outright declaring she is active in the pursuit of romance. For starters, Sensei has no idea that she has started to like him and pushed any lewd thoughts down as inappropriate. That is the opposite of being in love and already have decided on waiting for Nariyuki. There's nothing actual to your claim until Sensei has crossed the bridge and has explicitly shown or voiced that she wants to be with him and that she's waiting after he has gradated.

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gradated*

>There's nothing in Sensei's lines and actions that states, or even suggest she is waiting for him.
Your Fumitard shipping goggles are cutting off the oxygen to your gorilla nigger brain.

>For starters, Sensei has no idea that she has started to like him
Wow, there's wrong, there's extremely wrong, and there's whatever this is.

>no pantsu
What did Tsutsui mean by this?

Irrelevant ad hominem and NO U don't count as refutation, much less a counter argument. But it is to nobody's surprise to see that this is the limit of your dedication and headcanon.

Embarrassing.

Delusional Senseifag BTFO

He lurks and he hates your flip ass. So no pantyshot for you.

>the pocket agreeing Fuminofag
Truly an empty existence

People have been mocking you since the beginning because meta is your only argument.

>Look at this rizu chapter in an ongoing rizu arc which has some crucial part to her character development! It actually means she loses to fumino because meta!

This is how retarded you sound ruifag.

Judging by the way types and insults and argues, it's more than likely an Urukafag being delusional on behalf of Senseifags. Why? Well, I think the conclusion to that is easy to form

>No it didn't
yes it did
before 102 sensei would cut anything that she perceived as advances from Yuiga immediately, usually with a death glare included
in 111 that isn't the case, she is not cutting his "advances" in one go, she is just telling him to wait, which is what I said in my post, she wouldn't mind Yuiga going for her, but only in an appropriate time (after graduation)

Not him, but other than seemingly you and one other in here, who has a problem with meta to your the extent? To the point you are basically throwing a huge fit while churning out implications and boogeyman from other fanbases to make you sound creditable? You replied me a few times and you've even accused me of the same thing because, like so many others, I include meta. Why is it ONLY it's in this fanbase, primarily yours that has a problem with meta? Every other romcom deals in meta half the time and live in it. Bokuben is generic, cliche, and trope-filled as they come, so it's nonsense to nitpick like you.

can we pls ban senseifags? she is side character who has 0% chance to win and t hey think this is toubunshit where every girl has a chance,

only fumino and rizufans are allowed to talk here

Because that's the only thing Fuminofags can talk about.

>Sensei's slight defrosting from ice teacher is only that, and separate from outright declaring she is active in the pursuit of romance. For starters, Sensei has no idea that she has started to like him and pushed any lewd thoughts down as inappropriate.
This peculiar headcanon of yours has already been covered. She defrost a bit, that is obvious. You know what else is obvious? The middle: preceding steps that leads to your conclusion of " telling him to wait" via a romantic declaration because she is aware of her feelings and wishes to romantically be with him. What you have is mental gymnastics have gone through hoops and loops.

>they think this is toubunshit where every girl has a chance

22i and editor went on record to say that all girls have equal chance. Which basically shield them from misplaced criticism in case a girl that isn't fumino or rizu wins.

No one would complain if Mafuyu won

My falseflagging as both sides of the coin is complete. They'll never know that it was me all along.

Fucking Based

Foominoshitters would.

Reminder that Fumino and Sensei are both in denial/refusing to understand/selectively oblivous for different reasons.
Only Uruka fully acknowledges anything.
Rizu is jealous but hasn't had a full realisation.
Asumi is unimportant

did you read my post? I never said that she is making advances towards him, just that she is ok with Yuiga making advances on her after graduation, which is shown in the manga, it isn't a head canon, there is a stark difference between a plain "no" and "not yet"

You think you're Sidious tier but you're really nohing but some Gunray nobody.

Scuminofags hail from Metaland.

>only
Meta is never a problem, but regardless I've been around long enough to know that's not true. Fumino has both personal and shipping development with Nariyuki as any other. But she is one of THE main girls. Her role calls for meta scrutiny. It's natural. But from what I've seen, you nitpick like woah and focus on pouring water on meta because you, without a single doubt, hate to see Sensei lose to meta. There's also a heap of grudge and ill-will towards Fumino that I sense from you.

I'm not even the same person you were talking to before.
But Fuminofags can only talk about meta because of their girl's lack of romantic development and absolute shitfest of an arc that led effectively to nothing.
Even better when they shit on Rizu because
>muh mascot character
>muh Fumino is the evident main girl because META

Its funny because nowhere was Sensei mentioned in this reply chain
It seems like you're the one making boogeymen out of nothing

>22i and editor went on record to say that all girls have equal chanc
no he didn't and again this is WSJ so fuck off with you're delusional headcanon. the manga is about rizu and fumino. WSJ never let a sensei character win because of the rules and law

Then that's a completely different story. My other argument regarding Sensei's feelings not being realized yet is relevant to your argument. She may tolerate, or maybe not, but love isn't observable yet.

>fumino has nothing the others don't BUT she has meta : the post

Even ruifags are trying harder than this.

If only they were consistent with their boogeyman. They only count Rizufags on their side after a couple of them falseflags as Rizufag to give that impression.

I'm a Rizufag but even I admit Fumino is the superior and main chatacter.

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Senseifag in here sperged at meta. I'd say his assumption is fair. More fair than sperging at Ruifag boogeyman.

>the manga is about rizu and fumino
It''s not, it's about Nariyuki.
>WSJ never let a sensei character win because of the rules and law
That's excatly why every character around is fine with it as long as they wait for graduation. Are you living in an alternate dimension where the characters are stuck in high school forever?

I'm a Reijifag and I call your bullshit.

Your disdain and negative opinions aside, how can Fumino lack romantic development when she is roughly in the same tier as the others? Meta exists to connect the dots and speculate common cliches/tropes/narrative techniques that exceeding prevalent and common in the genre.

Read the thread and the chains of replies. He is and it spirals from there. I was the first user he argued with before another user engaged in him.

If misrepresenting with greentexting is all you will do, then please don't bother.

>misrepresenting
That's exactly what was said above. You can't even keep track of your own posts.

>has nothing the others don't
Spotted the ESLfag.

I know what I said and it's not what you greentexted. Baiting me makes you look bad, not me.

>I know what I said
Obviously you don't. It's just hard to take seriously someone giving input on a story he's not writing when he can't even keep up with his own posts.

Quote me then.

I'm still waiting for the legit Rizufags always being supportive of Fumino endgame

Bokuben is more comedy than romance drama, like Nagi no Asukara, or Toradora. You're not going to find good writing with a lot of meaningful and thoughtful character development over the course of the stories. 80% of the manga is made up of fanservice and gags and no plot chapters. Over 110 chapters and so far we have 3 actual arcs that are no longer than 5 chapters each. Fillers are the main bulk of how 22i pads his character with characterizations and slow as hell paced development that are him yanking around their feelings until it's time to be serious and show a bit of development to have romance flow.

Since that is the case, the last girl is one of the very, very few and limited options he has to use, and it's the most foreseeable option. You may hate it and consider it cheap, but if that's how it is, 22i should at least try and make the best out of it, don't you think? Otherwise, the last girl standing will not be good no matter who wins because not a single heroine falls under your criterion of good winners.

>I'm a Rizufag
Yeah, sure

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>Fumino has both personal and shipping development with Nariyuki as any other
>But she is one of THE main girls. Her role calls for meta scrutiny

It's all there.

>meta is now taboo in Bokuben
This fanbase becomes more cancerous by the week. I can't wait until the manga is finally finished so everybody can forget the amount of retardation that went on in these threads.

Nobody said that except within the strawman you created.

I love Rizu for her honesty and purity on top of consistent character development since the beginning. Which makes this post sound like complete rubbish from any perspective.

Yeah, he originally argued for signing posts, not always supporting endgame. That was proven, but he refuses to accept it. Now, he's is baiting for (You)s. Pretty sad.

Only """Senseifags""" are being retarded about meta.

>has development like the others and meta, but because she's one of the main heroines, the meta that she has and brings forth is put under scrutiny Now quote your post, idiot.

Sometimes you just have to accept that fuminofags can only use the meta narrative to support their arguments
They cant do anything else anyway

>Now quote your post, idiot.
Was not meant to include this in the greentext

How assblasted will you be if Fumino wins? Don't lie now.

Furuhashi deserves to win. And by Furuhashi I mean Reiji.

This changes absolutely nothing. You have to fall back onto meta to make an argument which was was people were pointing at from the beginning.

Retard.

Not at all. Everybody knows she's going to win anyway.

breadfag here, gonna put a bun in sensei's oven

How are your moe levels?

>in denial because she hasn't realized her feelings yet
>hasn't confessed
>conflict of interest with helping Rizu and Uruka
>first arc was used for development with her father
>expects developments that will focus on Nariyuki and her feelings
>predicted last girl or second to last if Rizu is last
These are not meta.
>main girl rule
>Rizu is jealous and sees that Fumino and Nariyuki has a relationship that she is envious of
>sensei character pretty much never win in these stories
This is meta. Note the difference.

>These are not meta
All of these ARE meta.

>This changes absolutely nothing.
You don't get to say this when your greentext implied there is only meta and she's the only one, which is NOT what I said there. At least have the balls to own up to shitposting.

off the charts

>i don't know what meta means
Point and laugh at this retard.

"""Senseifag""" btfo.

But muh meta. STOP applying meta when it's wrong.

What is obvious here is how you can build up this "incredible" Fumino narrative by misinterpreting on purpose what is meta and what isn't in the exact same manner you fail to see how terrible Fumino is written as a character.

First four are factual. The following two after are valid predictions based on common sense. How is that meta?

The other three are common writing and tropes taken from other series and applying them as a guide. That is meta.

Yet you still addressed Rizufags collectively as being on your side also no one signs his posts out of bait and falseflag and that is painfully obvious

What is obvious here is how you can build up this "incredible" Uruka narrative by misinterpreting on purpose what is meta and what isn't in the exact same manner you fail to see how terrible Uruka is written as a character.*

Proven were? He just needs to post some post numbers. Instead he went for a butchered link on a poorly typed post. That screams fear of showing what he considers legit posts which may turn out to be painfully obvious falseflags.

The greentext implies nothing more than what you've posted, that you need to rely on meta to put fumino above the others since you can't bring out any other narrative to create a solid argument to promote her otherwise.

And the only shitposting around is yours, though it's clearly more along the lines of mental disability than actual shitposting.

>two Rizufags
>implies collectively
Could you like strawman harder. I gave you an easy link so you can look for yourself. If every post that signs is bait and falseflagg, then why do so many of them appear legitimate and cause no problems? Urukafags have a lot, and so do Senseifags and Mafuyufags who uses it to distinguish themselves.

>189323851
Read the thread, troll-kun.

Never once have I said anything about Uruka, and for the record I'm of the opinion that she's written to move away from Nariyuki without the need of any meta whatsoever. Why the sudden need to deflect though?

I guess it's really that mental disease that makes you see Uruka as the antichrist and Fumino as a perfect angel a few anons seem to suffer from.

congrats on another 70 IP bump limit thread

>she will move away and move on with her life after she gets closure yadda yadda yadda as done so have characters in her role have done
>not calculated meta
Nice try, fucker.

Are you being retarded? Uruka moving to Australia is where her character is being built toward, no matter what happens she's moving away from Nariyuki.

Why do I get the feeling that Rizu will confess at the end of this arc?

>two
I count one fag. Unless you forgot to put the sign in one of those. And no, nobody starts his posts by saying I'm an Xfag to validate their post since what you are is denotable by the context of your post. But when an alleged Rizufag that feels the need to confirm he is such posts (without any follow up) about Fumino being obvious endgame, something that never happened, and you use that post as back up of your narrative of meta posts being made for other girls despite that post being in your favor, then it gets a little suspicious. Add the fact that previous threads reeked of falseflaggers making controversial posts ending with t.xfag then the credibility gets even lower. And you didn't provide shit, that link is butchered and badly typed.

Why indeed?

>no (You)
Insecure, proving me right. No posts were provided in proof of that.

>BTW: I know Fumino will win but I'm just sperging because I can

>the Fuminofag and his pet dog agreeing with his posts
I kind of get the former but the latter is just sad. I hope he's a samefag.

She won’t. Unless you’re talking some roundabout confession that goes over Nariyuki’s head. No girl in this is that aggressive.

it makes sense that uruka arc is last since she's the designated obvious loser other than asumi so it can start the process of removing girls as it heads to the end

OK so what if we had a Sawako chapter but with one of the other girls instead of Rizu?
Thus avoiding all the udon and /u/ arguments kind of like the Mafuyu and Uruka swimming chapter.
How would it develop for each girl?

Wow, and you won't do it. I guess we can't call you the bigger person in this. Your greentext is explicitly clear and tried to misrepresent. You took offense because in your head you don't want to hear and accept that the meta she receives is literally scrutinize because she's one of the main girls. Main girls are always under scrutiny, whether it's from fans or anti-fans (clearly you here). What that means is plainly obvious and it comes with the territory. It doesn't matter if she has less development than some or more because that will remain constant. You missed that fact, or purposely missed it to bait. Either way, this is done.

Uruka's arc being last is probably more related to the nationals date.

Damn, Urukashitter is being rekt'd today.

Winter Fumino is lovely.

Damn Fuminoshitter managed to ruin another thread. Imagine my shock.

I know it's mental disability because you keep insisting on meta when people have been accusing you to have nothing but that to back up your argument for legitimacy.

I tell you that you have nothing but meta, you answer with more meta. I point at how you justify meta with more meta and you come crying that you have even more meta. You're literally digging up your grave with a dozen of bulldozers by now.

>everything is meta to me
Go back

shippers should carry out a time and motion study based on the opportunity cost of these futile delusions.

>Urukafags were bitched at because they were annnoying and forced Uruka in a chapter thread she has no part in
>started shit as usual and have gone full retarded bitching at meta to perpetuate his war with Fuminofags
Nice try, Urukacuck.

>literal third post is Fuminofag starting shit with Urukafags
Nice try, Skellyfaggot.

> a time and motion study based on the opportunity cost of these futile delusions.
You mean a study based on the opportunity cost of posting on 4channel?

You count one even though it's the one you reject and considered bait/falseflag, in spite of the fact he sounded nothing like, even less a falseflagger. It only takes simple inference and reading to get that the other post is a Rizufag. He thought Rizu had a stronger chance of winning before the newest chapter dropped. Plus, there's a bit of displeased tone in how he expressed it.
>that never happened
Signing posts do happen often than you pretend as archive would show. But following up Fumino being endgame is not something I imagine most Rizufags do as they. But this chapter came out just some hours ago. It would not be odd to see some Rizufags think Rizu has less of a chance now because she is the jealous of the relationship Nariyuki and Fumino has in her eyes. It's time to get over it.

Don't forget """Senseifags""" who wildly declared Sensei's victory will happen because she wants the D and has said she's waiting to get it once MC has graduated.

Rizu threads are alive threads confirmed

Nobody cared for your obvious bait there, so it didn't cause problems.

They’re not really about Rizu though.

Blame Urukafags.

and Fuminofags and Mafuyufags.

According to you, posts that agree with you are always right and posts that are brought against you are always falseflag. And you haven't brought up anything from the archive. I can say the archives say whatever I want that doesn't make it real. For one time you could back up your shit but alas you refuse again and that's why you'll never be believable.
>He thought Rizu had a stronger chance of winning before the newest chapter dropped.
He says her chances are lower and Fumino's have increased. He didn't state a relationship of superiority
>Plus, there's a bit of displeased tone in how he expressed it.
Literally in your head. I guess it's the same way you decide what's falseflag and what's not.

Remember guys. Romcom tropes meta is banned and taboo now. They say so, so that's how it is from now on.

>implying
Sasuga. You imply Urukafags started shit but thatbwas merely because they were provoked by the Fuminofag first. As always.

>Urukafag falseflag to make Fuminofags look bad as usual
>not starting shit first
>the act is dropped just barely an hour later in typical fashion and high fives
Uh huh.

I'm glad we're all in agreement

This list falls into the same meta nonsense as "fuminodad is final boss!", or "the costume kiss will be important!"

Mafuyu will win. Bokuben will ignite the age of unconventional winners. Believe it!

That's definitely a good thing in bokuben case.

You look pretty bad already. You fueled another shitposting war in this thread and probably the next too.

Meta is at best a clutch to an obvious narrative. In bokuben case there are no obvious narratives, so some are trying to push meta as the main argument. Do you know which fanbase did that? Ichirukists. For 15 years, they either dismissed or misinterpreted the main narrative while backing up their claim with meta.

Nothing wrong with meta. It’s just boring.

I like how you didn't respond to this user. Reason why is obvious.

Nothing can stop meta except for the hand of Editor-san, or the author himself if willing.. Seething shippers need to deal with it or just move on.

there is nothing inherently wrong with meta, as long as it is used with the actual narrative of the series in question, but when you overly rely on meta tropes while largely ignoring the narrative to make an argument that's when it becomes an issue
remember, at most meta is just a guide of EXPECTED elements, they aren't absolute in any way since there are plenty of exceptions to meta narratives so acting like if they are set in stone is just foolish

someone must have done a study of the loss of otherwise productive hours spent fucking around on social media sites like Yea Forums...

She'll confess to Fumino about her feelings with the moeboy.
A "Declaration of War" of some sort.