Does absolutely nothing to achieve his dream, doesn’t get /fit/ or put any effort into being a hero

He's just Japanese Steve Rogers/Peter Parker that was chosen to get the super soldier serum, big deal.

kys

But they weren't entirely pushovers, Peter was working towards their dreams even before he got bit, captain america too fought on instead of crying like a little faggot.
Both of them found their confidence completely after getting their powers too, the faggot Deku still cries even after having the powers, it's beyond pathetic.

Peter Parker got his spider powers by random chance and only earned them later on.
Steve Rogers actually earned the super soldier serum by being the most selfless and goodhearted soldier, despite his physical weakness (which is because of a massive series of disabilities).
Deku has yet to earn OfA, and yet he was framed as being worthy from day 1.

He did some work towards earning it in the Overhaul arc. Not enough but a start.

You have never read a Captain America or Spiderman Comic have you? Cap worked his ass off even before he was chosen for the Super Soldier serum, trying to do his best for America even when he was a weakling. Peter strived to be an amazing scientist long before the bite, lumping two hardworking heroes in with Deku who before meeting All Might never tried to achieve his dream even with the world to his back, Deku is an ok character at best but he is nothing compared to Cap or Spiderman.

>be raised by a single mother
>complete bitch
>not working to your goals at all
>the literal second a strong male role model and father figure enters your life you pull a 180
>get into peak physical shape
>get into the top school of your country
>become famous
How stupid do you have to he to miss the context?

>I find myself enjoying it sometimes because of his flaws
You see, this is the problem. Deku has plenty of flaws but Hori doesn't capitalize on them.

This /thread

He still does it.

>Oh yeah, legs exist
>Kick

He had kicked before too, you are missing the point about that.

based deku making everyone seethe
hes the ultimate Yea Forumspproved chad

>Trying this hard
Go back.

Fpbp

i like the lense you viewed the show trough

>Bakugou, Mineta, and Momo are smarter than Dekushit

>>does absolutely nothing to achieve his dream, doesn’t get /fit/ or put any effort into being a hero

he had a training arc at the start of the series for entirely this purpose

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MHA is only good for girls.

I don't know why you fags pretend otherwise.

Even at that he was one up by Mirio

deku was written so shit from the start nothing can save him anymore

What with anime these days and MC get everything handed to them?
Is this how people see things? Hardwork only if talent got handed to you, just give up otherwise?
Sameshit with Naruto too

I think I missed a dew

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Based off Midterm scores Midoriya is #4 in the class behind Momo, Iida, and Bakugo.

>Has a harem
Two girls. His classmate, and a girl who's actually insane.

now i get it

arcs without Deku are "fine"

Like when?

This. People in these threads keep talking about how he did nothing to achieve his goals and didn't deserve OfA. He actively applied to the school, followed and studied various heroes, ,and tried to stupidly save his bully of a friend even after being told by his Idol that his dream was impossible. He may not have physically trained his body, but he's a middle school kid with a dream he was already subconsciously aware he couldn't achieve. It's like a regular middle school kid wanting to be a celebrity. Sure they'll dream about it, but how many are going to actively think about how much they'll need to work out to be the next Thor? Most don't think that far ahead. It's not like All Might chose him based on physical abilities anyway, and he had no idea that the LoV and AfO would be such an immediate problem. Deku did plenty to earn it.

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>Two girls. His classmate, and a girl who's actually hot.
fixed that for you

>Has a harem
Melissa is nowhere to be seen, Ochako is his love interest, Toga is crazy and Mei is autistic, hardly an harem
>Doesn't do anything and still wins
Objectively wrong, he trained to get his power, he trains daily before and after class to control it, knows how to use other quirks to his advantage and he's easily a lider when the time comes

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It's like shitposters haven't read the manga!?

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But you didn't do any of that stuff either

>muh betacuck
>most alpha combat displays besides all might and endeavor
Oh boy, the guy who uses the equivalent of dynamite in melee combat is such a pathetic loser because he used to let his bully shittalk him.

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>Deku didn’t do anything before getting his powers
Did you guys forget the first couple of chapters where he tries to save Bakugou from that slime dude despite not having a quirk? AM gave him OFA because he was brave enough to risk his life despite being quirkless. Does trying to find ways to bitch about Deku just make you dumber or something?

>genius
>proceeds to use the most inefficient way of fighting potentially causing everlasting nerve damage
>genius

>doesn’t get /fit/
stop reading

He's not framed as being intelligent, he's frame as being an otaku. One typical day in Yea Forums should be enough to let you know that otaku =/= smart. He's slightly above average intelligence at best. Even Bakugou gets better grades than him.

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>>does absolutely nothing to achieve his dream, doesn’t get /fit/ or put any effort into being a hero

He was shat on and bullied his whole entire life, his mom and a doctor told him when he was five he had no chance. The fact that he remained enthusiastic enough about heroes to study for the exams and take notes on other heroes is enough

>>fanboys over heroes and is supposedly a ‘genius’ with good observation skills despite him never thinking of kicking or any other fighting style besides destroying his arms

Both the manga and databook point out that Bakugou is smarter than him.

>>all he does is copy the rest of his class, no originality in his thinking
He wants to be a hero, not fucking Pablo Picasso. Oh I learned Krav Maga, I guess that doesn't make me lethal because it's not original.

>got bullied everyday for over ten years
>does nothing and still calls Bakugou awesome and the best
Yeah I don't get that either. But male bonding is fucked, I was told my bullies were my friends when they were so obviously fucking not. Maybe Deku just bought into some stupid Japanese meme

In short, fuck yourself.

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>It's like a regular middle school kid wanting to be a celebrity. Sure they'll dream about it, but how many are going to actively think about how much they'll need to work out to be the next Thor
Thats a terrible example considering any kid with a phone can grow a following if they try hard enough.
Deku did less to earn his powers than the average attentionwhore in youtube/twitter/instagram did to became famous.

>"earn" his powers
From AM's POV it's not about "earning it" but being the right man for the job. Granted AM is flawed and it might have been the wrong call, but then again OfA seems to suck shit to actually possess.

>mfw I can't even remember why Hawks is being evil
Boku no boredom is THAT unengaged

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>I can't remember a super simple plot point about a double agent trying to win the enemy's favor.

You sure you aren't just an idiot?

>a double agent trying to win the enemy's favor
But why

You forgot that he's a crybaby. Always has that stupid look on his face like he's about to cry like a little bitch. The only thing good about deku is that he recognizes bakugo as his superior. I stopped watching out of boredom and I forced myself to watch the winner of the tournament. Chad Bakugo won. Will never force myself to watch this bullshit ever again.

It explained why in the post, you're fucking retarded

>doesn’t get /fit/ or put any effort into being a hero

But he did
>But that was only after he was promised superpowers
So?

Explain in a way that makes sense

Chadsta>virgin Deku

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The ass was fat.

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He can't do the whole "double" part of being a double agent if he ins't in good with the enemy. It's pretty fucking basic.

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Just watch BC, is a lot better anyway. Boku no Hero is for little kids.

Intelligence comes from learning. But Bakugou showcases way more brains than Deku ever has.

If he's just pretending to be evil, then why did he kill Best Jeanist?

>a double agent trying to win the enemy's favor
>a double agent
In this case, Hawks, a well known and popular hero, is attempting to insinuate himself in the League of Villains, a plot point previously established in a previous arc
>trying to win the enemy's favor
In this case Hawks, the double agent in case you forgot from the previous sentence, is performing a task, killing another well known and popular hero, that will make the League of Villains trust him

Look at all of these edgelords thinking they would've acted any different if they were in Deku's shoes. You all probably would've just taken the swan dive after Bakugou hurt your feelings.

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Not really, most likely scenario is we would be shitposting on japanese hero imageboards.
No one here has any retarded dreams.

No one knows if he's pretending. That's the hook. He's a morally gray area atm.

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It would have been better if AM had chosen to take Deku under his wing without giving him OfA.

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Stfu you stupid tripfag. Go back to Pleddit you retarded piece of shit

Oh trust me, I can put a quirkless guy into a more bullshit experience. Deku without a quirk can be a cop and it might turn out that he’ll find something quite mess up in there. Because the cops are likely ones that aren’t allowed to use quirks, they’ll probably be a lot more terrorfying than heroes with some powerful tools to contain the villains, help citizens, or destroy shit with bombs. If MHA happened, the police will be far more militaristic and they might even gain back their investigation privileges just because of the quirk potential.

It's genuinely believable that Deku would let Bakugo cuck him

See you in October.

>zoomers
the fact your using that word unironically and bashing this show is hilarious because the people that actually use that word are the underage teens that watch bhna. ironic right?

I barely use that site, but I know your annoying ass is there.

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or you can just say "eat shit" for this faggot and move on.

Who gives a shit about his vocabulary? At least it’s not repetitive as fuck.

shut up you stupid tween

>le epic meme
I haven't watched the anime in months and I never read the manga. I lost all interest.

>not OP and based even tho he's autistic
cringe

>People still responding to retarded bait threads without saging their posts
yikes

>Namefagging
May as well hurry up and kill yourself to save everyone the pain of being around you

I don't mind that he's been given everything. The series is just boring regardless.

>Namefagging AND phoneposting
Are you purposely trying to make the biggest ass of yourself?

Shinsou also began physical training after the Sports Festival, which lost to deku. Perhaps it was not easy to move in the right direction of the dream while being despised by people in the view of the world inside Bnha.

Peter got his powers entirely by accident and up until that point was just a self-absorbed nerd. It was only after his uncle's death, and the massive influx of guilt, that he finally felt the need to go out and help people. He's a good character, but it's precisely because he was given so much room to grow.

If Mineta could do it anyone can do it.

shoulda went to a military quirk academy.

Todoroki autism if Dabi ends up being a Todoroki
I don't know if you consider the asspull powerup from the crazy girl something cool or only an asspull.

With that said, this arc has been better than most recent hero arcs, better make the villains into the main characters

Crying is apparently good character development

Also, deku's analytical and applied ability to quirks makes one guess that he would have made a remarkable development if he had acquired afo, not an ofa. aoyama said deku's quirk is a force that doesn't fit the body. This leads us to imagine what it would have been like if he had reversed himself with his archrival Shiggy in the past, and I suspect the writer intended the dad-for-one theory to be credible.

how can one mc be so retarded

How is the sperg in front of deku? The two autists of momo and lida I can understand but bakugo?

>nerdy kid gets given powers
>this is somehow shocking and revolting to the population of Yea Forums

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>doesn't get /fit/ or put any effort into being a hero.

I can't tell if it's bait or this guy literally skipped every episode with a shot of Izuku's ripped body.

He actually studied and trained his whole life to make his dream come true.

god i hate that ugly faggot
he's naruto but worse in every way

But we're talking about academics here. While Bakugo was off screaming and flying around Midoriya might as well have just been studying right? Not like he needed to practice his quirk.

this

He probably would've gotten an ass-whipping from his mom if he didn't study as a kid.

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This man has had a lot of plastic surgery

>kacchan if you don't fuck my wife I will kill myself

Found the triggered zoomer
Back to fortnite

But he didn't, thats why he is shit.

He's a competitive perfectionist child prodigy who wants to be the best hero just as badly as Midoriya if not more so. The only thing that's really setting him back are his emotional outbursts and egotism. The whole point of their rivalry is they want the same thing in different ways.

Based

Then why are you here? To tell us how much you don't watch the show or read the manga?

He could've worked if he stayed a depressed suicide tier otaku even after getting yolked, it's not like mental scars go away just because life gets materially better, especially when the fags that would've thrown you to the curb now suck your dick and the fact your effectively a child soldier who probably has unrealistic career expectations.

Yeah he got his powers by accident and was a nerd but at least he actually worked towards his goal before that instead of crying for 10 years until somebody gave him the strongest power. He needed Uncle Ben's death because he didn't want to be a hero, unlike Deku who wanted to be a hero since childhood

He didn't work for them though. He just stupidly ran at a bad guy who would've killed him and then All Might saved him. He didn't actually put in any work until All Might came around

>Ochako is his love interest
What happened to the ochako x bakugo ship anyway?
I remember the pair being shipped to death 2-3 months ago but i rarely lurk in Yea Forums so i dont know what happened after.

gooks love being belittled, the nukes really did a number on them

Kachako is growing stronger

>he had a training arc at the start of the series for entirely this purpose
Only AFTER he learned that he could get OFA.

The problem is that he only starts to work for it after he gets the power. He keeps talking about how you need a quirk to become a hero but the series shows that that isn't even the case. Him applying to the school is like trying to apply to college when you don't even do anything in highschool and him studying heroes was just a hobby at that point

What are talking about. Bakugou is his love interest.

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>That salt
>That pic
Jesus, this is just embarrassing

What are you talking about? Bakugou is obviously his love interest.

On a serious note, a female bakugou would be way better than the “smart” ponytail chick and Ochako.

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Mob psycho is better

Well to be fair he didn't really need it as it wasn't really all that necessary to his skill set. Deku, however, could've 100% benefited from some muscle and martial arts. Shinsou only started training because Deku's plot armor saved him from his retarded mistakes and made Shinsou's power useless. Then a few arcs later Deku has to saved by another plot convenience to beat the new and improved Shinsou. I feel so bad for that guy, the way he's defeated is always so unsatisfying

>Mob psycho is better

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This is a really good subtle red pill..guess this trash actually serves one purpose. I'm shocked. Deku's Mom is a gross cow too.

Brainlets don't realize the entire point of the series is for Deku to become a hero worthy of wielding the power.

All Might even told him to his face that "Yea actually there were 3 other students much smarter, stronger, and way more experienced than you in line to be my successor, but I chose you to spite one of my college bros. Don't let it get to you, kiddo?"

To be fair, heroes throughout legend and fiction are typically special snowflakes of some sort. It reflects how people view reality, where the big names and winners have often been (and still are to a great degree) people with great advantages. That's why the concept of underdog exist, the person who is expected to lose because the odds are stacked against them but has the sympathy of the people for their uphill struggle against fate.

But however much people love an underdog, they all want to be special. Being handed things is part of the wish fulfillment, but I also think it's just the nature of battle shonen to have characters constantly be given leverage to keep pace. These isekai is far worse imo, at least these are usual hero stories. In isekai MC is a special snowflake by definition, some dweeb sent to another world usually tailored to their understanding and allows them to game the system.

It was forced to trigger people. It's a lazy shoujo shipping that only girls would really be into but most of them are fujos.

This copypasta again? Please try a little harder Huntards.

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>Deku
>Obssession with Bakugo and getting bullied by him
Bakugo is like an abusive husband and Deku an abusive wife who keeps coming back for it.
No one person can think Deku's obsession is healthy or reasonably stay with Bakugo for really no reason except "he's the coolest guy ever"

It's because Deku is a creepy stalker. Bakugou is 100% justified in his actions.

>Deku (Useless) only works hard when promised powers

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>doesn’t get /fit/
I don't really understund the hype for this anime either but that's nonsense

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go back to >>>/twitch/discord/twitter/ , teen

see:

he looks like he sucks dicks

He was already working hard before hand and keeping tons of notes and trying to get into a top school. Its just he didn't understand what was actually required and he never had a father, so hes doing it all on his own at that age which means he will be ill informed retard kill yourself tonight

There is no way someone could possibly be so stupid that they wouldn't realize that physical fitness is a requirement to be a hero.

he was 14 retard. You are probably like 20 an can barely bench 200 stop talking

HeroAca should have more cute wholesome teen romance in it.

The problem is it is your typical battle shonen where characters want to be THE BEST, not simply the best they can be. Add the fact that NOT having a power makes you abnormal.

Give a quirkless guy a laser and he instantly becomes OP.

I'm so glad my daughter watching sword art online instead of this garbage show

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The Zoomer hero

>What do you mean this character starts out with flaws and then gradually changes? What the fuck does that mean
>MY CHARACTERS NEED TO BE INSTANTLY PERFECT RIGHT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW

How do you have such a pathetically short attention span that a shounen manga is too much for your sad little brain?

>too dumb to understand HNK

BakuCHAD was always /fit/
His hobby is rock climbing.
He knew you can’t be a hero, even with a good quirk I’d you aren’t /fit/
Dekushit should have realized that to given he literally had no quirk

Bakugou only bullied him because he kept saying he was going to be his equal.
Anyone with any social awareness would have picked up on that and quit saying that to his face.

wtf kind of cuck manga is that

deku and baku are fags

it's my hero acadamia. They know their target audience.

He now has hentai tentacles power but he won't use them because he's too big of a pussy

No he didn't you speedreader. Deku actively tried to avoid conflict with Bakugou by keeping his head down and being complacent. If the teacher didn't out him in the class he wouldn't have even known Deku was applying. He didn't start biting back and mentioning the equal stuff until had got into UA and started developing a sense of confidence. He did what any middle school kid who had the unfortunate luck of falling out with a friend who became a bully did and avoided as much conflict as possible.

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D...did you forget that he worked out for three months straight? Like I can't get why you people hate this character so much. Is it because he's everything you all could be if you actually had a reason to do something instead of going on Yea Forums and bitching about said character?

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Most likely end game couples
>Deku and Uraraka
>Todoroki and Yaoyorozu
>Bakugou and Camie
>IIda and Hatsume Mei
>Kirishima and Mina Ashido
>Tokoyami and Tsuyu (child abomination)
>Kaminari and Jirou (If not traitor)
>T4 or Monoma and Kendo
>TOGAWICE

>He didn't work for them though.
How do you work for a superpower? Why should he when people in his world are just born with them? He risked his life saving someone while being utterly powerless, he "earned" it more than anyone else.

>He risked his life saving someone while being utterly powerless, he "earned" it more than anyone else.
So pro heroes that risk their lives every day and have a whole career dedicated to saving innocent are unworthy because they have a quirk?

What point are you even making if you acknowledge they already have a quirk, you brainlet?

>How do you work for a superpower? Why should he when people in his world are just born with them?
Correction: People in the MHA world are born with glorified deformities and parlor tricks, which later become superpowers with training.

Okay. Most people are born with potential while a minority flat out aren't.

Deku just wanted to be a hero right? If not he's an even bigger faggot if he rufuses to do work unless if he can realistically become better than everybody else, that's the most arrogant shit ever

You don't even need a laser. Or gun or a taser would literally take out 80-90% of the cast

Someone post Deku vs Chad Crawler.

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There's a difference between a flawed character and a total faggot who is retarded and completely unlikable beyond being "literally me"

>it's real
>it's not a doujin
lmao this beta zoomer shonen.

>zoomer,lmao,beta
so much irony and retardation in one post.

...

And odds are most of them started off just as clueless and helpless as Deku, hence the point of schooling. Even the story recognizes that Bakugou's talent is the exception to the rule. His whole frigging middle school class wanted to be heroes. Do you think "I can pull my eyes out of the socket" boy was seriously training and studying like Deku or Bakugou? They're kids, they dream without actually thinking about what it takes to get what they want. What is even your arguement at this point? That All Might shouldn't have given him the power cause he wasn't /fit/ enough? He made up for that with 10 months of rigorous dieting and training once he found the motivation he needed. Even if he was Bakugou level fit, I doubt All Might would've skipped that step.

>Deku just wanted to be a hero right?
He wanted to be the bestest heroc but was an invalid by his world's standards.
>that's the most arrogant shit ever
Or he was a child with low self-esteem. Slow your roll, tough guy, don't pretend you're a determinator like your cartoon heroes.

>How do you work for a superpower?
Not a super power but to become a hero. In which case a weapon or martial arts would do just fine

>Why should he when people in his world are just born with them?
That's the faggot cuck mentality that he had and I hate him for it. He's saying that he should give up cause he doesn't have the talent without even trying it despite people working hard to overcome their flaws all the time in real life. A quirk is hardly necessary to be a hero

>He risked his life saving someone while being utterly powerless, he "earned" it more than anyone else.
He ran at a dude he knew he couldn't beat. That's not being heroic, that's being retarded. Like I could get if he was just distracting him so that the heroes could get a chance to beat the guy, that'd be fair, but if All Might wasn't right there he would've made everything worse.There's a good reason why self preservation instincts exist. A truly brave and dangerous person would be someone who aims to become a hero despite not being blessed with amazing talent, which Deku is not

> He's saying that he should give up cause he doesn't have the talent without even trying it despite people working hard to overcome their flaws all the time in real life. A quirk is hardly necessary to be a hero

Even the most "quirkless" kid in the class is at least a mutant whose most powerful component is still derived from a quirk. Deku had absolutely nothing and the majority of society told him he wouldn't be able succeed, including his own mother and eventually All Might, the #1 hero who also started out quirkless. Hell, the very first page of the entire series is him trying to stand up to bullies to protect another kid and getting the shit beat out of him for it. Who the hell just develops the motivation and confidence needed for those pursuits when literally everyone around you in your world puts you down for simply thinking about it?

>We know he becomes the biggest chad by the end of the series
I stopped reading somewhere around the class festival arc because I got tired of all the slice of life bullshit in this story. Does it ever get explained or fleshed out how this raging faggot turns out to be the biggest chad superhero ever known?

When Peter Parker was "GIFTED" his powers he had to learn to use them for good the hard way because in a moment of human weakness let it go to his head and it bit him in the ass. Deku has no such character arc and was just gifted his powers out of the blue.

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Yes he did faggot. He went to help BakuCHAD as if a quirkless loser can offer him any help to someone with his talent.
If he just kept away from acting like an equal he wouldn’t have been bullied for being quirkless.

>He wanted to be the bestest heroc
I just skimmed through the first chapter and it seemed like he just wanted to be a hero

>Slow your roll, tough guy, don't pretend you're a determinator like your cartoon heroes.
Oh yes the, "Y-you can't do better s-so you can't critique!" argument. Known for how fucking stupid it is and how it just ignores the issue entirely

I got my job because I worked to get good grades so I could go to a good university and get the job of my choosing. Did I have any super special talent in that field? Fuck no, I was average as shit. But now I'm living a decently comfortable lifestyle because I put in the effort and got the job i dreamed for. I didn't just give up because I wasn't talented like an arrogant asshole who gives up before even tries. I would kill if I got an opportunity to have the best person in the field fall from the sky and bless me with their talent but I won't stop trying to do what I want if it doesn't happen. And the kicker is that this story isn't special at all, there are a million just like it there are even people who did all this despite barely coming here with any money or even an understanding of the language but all of those disadvantages didn't stop them. That's the difference be them and Deku.

>I want to be the greatest lifeguard who ever lived!
>No, I don't know how to swim, but I don't see how that matters.
>I watch great swimmers in action and take lots of notes, so that's basically as good as knowing how to swim.
>Oh no, the asshole bully in my class fell into the ocean and is drowning! I have to save him!
>Oh no, I tried to rescue him but now I'm also drowning because I don't know how to swim! I've made the situation worse for everyone involved!
>Wow! My idol saved us and is so impressed by my stupidity that he's offering to transplant fish fins between my fingers and toes so I can be the greatest lifeguard who ever lived!
>Aren't I an admirable protagonist?

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>Not a super power but to become a hero.
You're changing your argument. Not a good look. He didn't want to be a hero, he wanted to be the best hero. Something it's suggested would never be achieved without superpowers.
>In which case a weapon or martial arts would do just fine
Wishful thinking. Argue with the facts, not your gut.
>He's saying that he should give up cause he doesn't have the talent without even trying it despite people working hard to overcome their flaws all the time in real life.
He never actually gave up. In fact he clung to his dream in spite of everyone and everything telling him it was impossible to achieve.
>He ran at a dude he knew he couldn't beat. That's not being heroic, that's being retarded.
You say this while everyone loves Mumen Rider and says he's a true hero for doing the same thing. How the hell is it heroic if you'll only do something if you're certain everything will go well? What a bunch of self-centered garble.

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>How do you work for a superpower?
If his goal is to be a hero that means his goal should be to actually help people. There are countless ways to do that without having super powers, regardless of the world the story is set in.

>Why should he when people in his world are just born with them?
Because we help people to help people. Not for the fame or accolades. See this is big issue right here. Deku doesn't want to be a hero because it's the right thing to do, he wants to be a hero because he's just copying all the wrong lessons from his idols. He wants the celebrity and the fame. He wants to be the number one hero like it's a championship title.

He had his whole life to get fit and help people. He didn't. He just stayed a whimpy little sad sack till the plot kicked in. Ill grant that it was brave to run in to save Bakugo, but the only reason no one else did was because they all had a sudden case of the stupids. And not to take away from his act, but one moment of heroism should not be enough to qualify him to receive AFO. There are countless selfless people in the world.

See this is the reason most super hero origins involve some accident or something. They may LUCK into their powers but having the burden placed on them forces them to act to learn and to overcome flaws. Real flaws.

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>Peter got powers by accident and learns to manage them heroically
>Izuki was given powers for being heroic and learns to manage them practically

I didn't think you could sink any lower than food analogies, yet here we are. I am thoroughly impressed.

>"man"

Based.
Cringe.

>In fact he clung to his dream in spite of everyone and everything telling him it was impossible to achieve.

HOW? How did he cling to his dream? He didn't do shit. He didn't get fit, he didn't get smart, he just had that lame ass "observational" bullshit which is a fat load of nothing. He did absolutely NOTHING to achieve his dream. You're right when you say he didn't give up, but only because giving up would imply that he ever made an effort at all.

Didn't read your blogshit, sorry. Your issue is you're getting triggered because you're projecting on a story and not paying attention to what's actually there. Which is why you're blogging. BNHA is not a reflection of you and your life, narcissist.

its comfy, not the best thing ever, but pretty darn good

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It's not even halfway good, it's just that I'm too invested in it now to drop it.

>>Peter got powers by accident and learns to manage them heroically

Yeah, after his ego cause him a great tragedy forcing him to learn his inaction has consequences and that he was no a person who had to consider the larger ramifications of what they meant and who he was. Izuka was someone who wanted a toy, couldn't have it and then pouted till Santa came and gave it to him anyways. There is such a world of difference between the two scenarios it's not even funny.

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>Black man and Japanese woman who are married have a kid
>This is bad, somehow
Sure is summer in here.

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>How did he cling to his dream?
By never letting go . Any other person would have moved on and done something more fitting, which is completely rational, given the circumstances. Like how you ignored 's post by the way.

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One cannot be a hero without a quirk. Period.

>By never letting go .

That doesn't mean anything. "Having a dream" isn't the same thing as "WORKING TO A DREAM." It's like saying you want to be an author but you never practice writing. Saying you have a dream but never you never work towards is just a cowards way of not dealing with rejection.

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>till Santa came and gave it to him anyways
Yeah, skip the part where the cripple tries to save a life, which is why Santa gave him the toy in the first place.
>There is such a world of difference between the two scenarios it's not even funny.
Exactly my point, Yea Forumsmblr. They are different but not the way you suggest.

>Even the most "quirkless" kid in the class is at least a mutant whose most powerful component is still derived from a quirk
The "most quirkless" kid in his class is just a dude with a tail. That's fucking it. You could literally buy some pepper spray and boom you've surpassed him

>All Might, the #1 hero who also started out quirkless
There's a reason why Deku couldn't become a hero wasn't because he didn't have a dumb gimmick that they call a quirk. It's because he was a pathetic bitch who couldn't even work for it. All Might was also quirkless but he worked for that power and became the symbol of peace. Now he sees Deku who doesn't have a quirk, doesn't even train, and cries all of the time. Of course he's gonna say that he can't because someone like that could never b a symbol of peace. Being quirkless is a factor sure, but it is far from he only one

>Hell, the very first page of the entire series is him trying to stand up to bullies to protect another kid and getting the shit beat out of him for it
That had nothing to do with him not having a quirk though, it was because he was fighting the 3 classroom CHADs. If Deku wanted to beat them he could've gone and took a martial art and actually learned how to defend himself and others. But no, that would take effort

>Who the hell just develops the motivation and confidence needed for those pursuits when literally everyone around you in your world puts you down for simply thinking about it?
Are you gonna ignore the thousands of cases where it happens in real life? Like people pursue passions despite it being unrealistic or looked down upon. Like go back a a couple thousand years and ask people if we could could fly to the moon and they'd call you retarded

Have sex

Mumen Rider was realistic about his abilities. He was just a guy who did good deeds because that was basically all he could do with his low power level. Nonetheless, he was still helping people.
When the Sea King showed up, he was the only hero still standing. He had no choice but to at least try to fight. Even though he couldn't win, he could at least act as a punching bag to buy time for a stronger hero to show up.
We never see Deku do any good deeds within his abilities. Nothing to demonstrate his good character in everyday situations. He just throws himself into danger without thinking and doesn't help at all. If anything, he makes the situation worse by giving the slime monster another hostage. And keep in mind that the slime monster escaped from the bottle because Deku clung to All Might's pants and made it fall out. Bakugou was only in danger in the first place because of Deku.

If you wanted a character without flaws, go watch SAO

>"Having a dream" isn't the same thing as "WORKING TO A DREAM."
Of course they're not the same. You're treating them like they are even though they aren't. He clung to his dream in spite the fact everything in his reality went against it. That's something you can't seem to come to terms with because you're not a realistic person, which is why you're projecting your examples on a comic/cartoon where it has no application.

I think I deserve OfA more than Deku

>Yeah, skip the part where the cripple tries to save a life

And what about all the people who try to save lives every day? What about the fire men who rush into burning buildings, what about the police officer who takes a bullet to save an innocent, what of the soldiers who put their lives on the line for the greater good? One kid acting to save one person he knows makes him more worthy than say the paramedics who rush into dangerous accidents or people who travel to warzones to help the people hurt there? I'm not diminishing Deku's action but this one instance doesn't change the fact that he spent his whole life being a coward and that as far as AM knew wasn't a one of instance.

There was a line in All Star Super-man, where Lex Luthor gains the powers of Super-man and is slowly losing them. As he does he begs Super-man to return them saying all the good he could have done. To which Super-man replies, if he had truly wished to help the world, he would have done so a long time ago.

Deku does not wish to be a hero for altruistic reasons. He is a coward who cries because he was dealt a bad hand and did not raise above them. Trying to save Bakugo was brave, but it was also reckless and stupid. He is not a hero.

>Presented with argument
>Doesn't read and it just dismisses it as blogshit despite LITERALLY being the one to bring up personal affairs
>No actual argument presented
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm smiling ear to fucking ear right now. This is the best joke I've heard in a long fucking time. I know that you're super red in the face and filled with autistic fury cause you got called out on your bullshit but you really shouldn't bother replying if you're just gonna embarrass yourself like this, as you clearly don't care about any actual argument to be made cause you'll defend that series no matter what. You should just close the tab and suck Hori's dick some more in your imagination. Oh who am I kidding, you're probably already planning on posting another non-argument right now, right? Did I call it?

>be Gentle
>stupidly ran at a bad guy
>his whole life went to shit
>be Deku
>stupidly ran at a bad guy
>becomes All Might's protege
Was it fair?

>He clung to his dream in spite the fact everything in his reality went against it.

But he didn't DO anything. Clinging to a dream is so easy it's worthless. Working towards a dream is hard. Working towards a dream is heroic. Cowards say "someday" or "I wish" HEROES make the impossible possible and say TODAY and make things happen.

You can cling to your dream till the day you die. Unless you do something to achieve it, it doesn't mean shit.

>And what about all the people who try to save lives every day blah blah
You're doing it again. Do those people want to be superheroes? No. He was in a situation where his dream could only be fulfilled by having a superpower. That's the bones of it. You can get steamed all you want about it, but that's how it was.

>implying you can learn to use quirks if you're quirkless
You faggots are getting dumber for every post

>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>I'm smiling ear to fucking ear right now.
Telling me how amused you are just tells me how bothered you really are over all this. Sorry, we're talking about a popular series for children here. Your autobiography wouldn't sell for a dime.

>He doesn't want to save or help people he wants to be a super hero.

Man I sure do want to be a teacher, just so long as I don't have to educate anyone. Jesus Shit, Stain was fucking right.

You've done so many backflips, holy shit. Peter got a cool toy by doing nothing to deserve or earn it, abused that power for shits and giggles, then changed only when his own pettiness cause a personal tragedy to him forcing him to consider the larger ramifications of what they meant and who he was. Deku was a kid who wanted a toy, looked at the pricetag and knew he couldn't have it, but liked looking at the toy through window anyway. When presented with the choice of action or inaction, he chose to take action and try to help someone who had previously been a complete shit to him. Then Santa decided he was a good kid and gave him the toy. Which he has since worked hard to take care of that toy by reading to manuals, and taking care of it. He didn't have to learn that his inaction had consequences because he actually acted. Neither of them knew they would get a cool power, but Deku at least respected the power once it was given to him.

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Wow great "argument" bud. It seems my prediction was on point. Sorry to tell ya but I'm posting on Yea Forums. It doesn't bother me nearly as much as you're ego is forcing you to think it does so that you can sleep well at night. I'm just amused whenever somebody can't make an argument but decides to try to get the last word in with some pathetic insult. And let me tell you, you're a barrel of laughs

why doesn't deku use a gun

>But he didn't DO anything.
No shit, because it couldn't be achieved, which was why it was a silly pipe dream until he actually got a power. You know this superhero shit isn't real, right? It's amazing seeing you compare this to being a teacher. Perhaps you're triggered because you and Deku have more in common than you want to admit.

He's not in America.

>Wow great "argument" bud
Thanks, triggered you so hard you can't even hide it behind that 12 year old girl snark.

applying for a license is too much for him, he is waiting to be gifted the most powerful gun in the country

Yes, but the big difference, and this is very important, DEKU WANTED THE POWER. Peter's power has caused his life so much hardship and pain that he would love nothing more than hang up his webs and settle down with MJ but can't because of the lessons he learned and his own moral code. Every day, every fight, every heroic action is one made out of responsibility, a responsibility he didn't ask for but shoulders because he's a hero.

Deku wanted to be a super hero but didn't shit his whole life despite his "dream." Yes he acted that one time, but that's still a whole life of whining, a whole life of crying a whole life of doing nothing but cry "WOE IS ME" and because he acted ONCE when his world's Super-man was in eye shot he gets everything he asked for, for free.

I mean Jesus Christ, the MHA world goes out of the way to worship heroes like gods and the MU treats theirs like menaces and pariahs as they're saving their lives. Where's the hardship there? Oh hey a fancy school that doesn't get blown up by sentinels.

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>You're changing your argument. Not a good look
No, you're failing to understand the essence of the argument. It's obvious to anybody with a brain that I was talking about him being a hero and I made sure that was clear in my last post in case you somehow didn't understand it

>He didn't want to be a hero, he wanted to be the best hero
Gonna need some evidence to back that up cause I literally have the first volume with me and I a quick read through has only pointed to him wanting to be a hero

>Wishful thinking. Argue with the facts, not your gut.
But I am arguing with the facts. If you gave Deku a gun he could easily beat most of the characters in this series. That's the whole point isn't it? They're just normal people with powers. I don't think the Invisible Girl is gonna tank a baseball bat to the head

>He never actually gave up. In fact he clung to his dream in spite of everyone and everything telling him it was impossible to achieve.
By "cling to his dream" do you mean spend his days in his room jacking off and not doing anything? In that case yeah, he clung the ever living shit out of it

>You say this while everyone loves Mumen Rider and says he's a true hero for doing the same thing. How the hell is it heroic if you'll only do something if you're certain everything will go well? What a bunch of self-centered garble.
pretty much says it all really. Mumen rider was a situation where he couldn't do anything but stay behind and buy time or run. And he's heroic cause he chose to fight regardless of his ability. Deku? Bakugo was surrounded by a number of heroes who were trying to figure out what to do and then Deku runs in there like a idiot. If All Might wasn't there to save his ass then he would've made everything worse. You do know that there's a reason why the police keep civilians away from hostage situations in real life right? It's because of idiots like Deku who think that they'll be heroes if they charge in like retards

>No shit, because it couldn't be achieved

So that means it's okay to not try? To not be the best you can be? How is "Holding on to an impossible dream" praiseworthy in this case than? Why are you treating his delusion as an act of heroism? It didn't force him to be a better person, it didn't make him work harder. The way you're selling it just makes him sound like a crazy person.

> It's amazing seeing you compare this to being a teacher. Perhaps you're triggered because you and Deku have more in common than you want to admit.

I actually am very close to earning my teachers degree. I worked very hard in school and to pay for my tuition. We are nothing alike.

>Peters life is literally pure suffering where nothing goes the way he wants it to
>B-but he was given powers
Literally fuck off and die

>I don't think the Invisible Girl is gonna tank a baseball bat to the head

Sue Storm is INSANELY powerful.

Yes, yes keep it coming. I must say I'm impressed with your ability to say someone is a triggered 12 year old because they used quotation marks to cast skepticism on a word and still take yourself 100% seriously. Serious question, how does it feel to lose an argument so hard that you have to resort to this but not changing your mind at all? Genuine question

I know you'll just take one sentence and try to get the last word with a totally original comeback (seriously you could at least try to make them funny). Well watching you seethe some more would be quite entertaining so I guess it's a win either way. I'm still surprised your responding to my bait at this point

I'm talking about the one from BNHA user...

Oh. Right.

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thats what thought too lol

he's a civilian, you can't maintain a police state if every civilian is armed

>No shit, because it couldn't be achieved, which was why it was a silly pipe dream until he actually got a power. You know this superhero shit isn't real, right?
You knows about the spinoff comic right? There's a quirkless hero character. And the MC is a fanboy whose quirk is useless but is determined to help people and pick up trash and shit. Deku has no excuse for being so worthless.

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SEVEN ASSPULL QUIRKS

Based trash-collecting cockroach man

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I don't, to me he isn't the mc

But Knuckleduster has a quirk retard. One of the best quirks in fact.

Guns.

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Probably both.

And yet, you read it slavishly. What does that say about you?

I don't even like MHA but you must have been busy fucking your cousin during the boring two-episode training montage of him literally getting /fit/ and putting effort into being a hero before anything else happened.

Don't talk sense, you'll scare people. Especially the people here.

(Actually a better example would be Silver Age Green Lantern. He was chosen to get the power ring precisely because he was fearless, competent, and heroic. Nothing random about that.)

Yeah, spergy white fucks in army surplus jackets are totally the average consumer of a medium created and marketed towards a country almost 100% asian. Holy shit you're almost as pathetically dumb as OP.

RE Cap: You're going by the revised / movie version. In the original he was just a 4F kid chosen at random to be a human guinea pig.

A lot of people here are very stupid...

The government has set Hawks to work trying to infiltrate the League. TPTB are terrified of the Nomus and want to know all about them. The only way that's possible is to get someone in the League who has access to their secrets. Hawks is that someone.

Prove he did, and that Jeanist isn't alive, well, and helping Hawks.

I stistill think the series would have been more interesting if he had gone the Batman route where he uses gadgets and hand to hand combat to overcome his lack of a quirk instead of just getting the one for all quirk from All Might.

That would have been tremendously boring. You really think Hori has the talent to write something like that and be convincing? You think HE, of all hacks in the industry, could make that exciting?

If Hori did that everybody would just go "O MY ENDLESS UTILITY BELT!" instead of "O MY SEVEN QUIRKS"
That's not fixing the problem, that's just shifting it.

>there are people ITT that genuinely believe Deku can even compete with Spider-man in terms of being a good character

True, Peter was a dick before he got his powers, there were many times when Flash tried to be nice(albeit in a dude bro jokey way) to him and Peter would just insult him and dismiss. That being said, Peter did put a lot of work into being a hero outside of his powers. His powers are really only half of his strength with the other half being his genius and wit. In some of the Marvel what ifs it shows that most people would just die or give up if they had his powers, seeing as how his artificial webs are one his biggest assets. Then there are the other things he built like his trackers,his suit and specialty items for taking down specific villains.

>before anything else happened
You mean after All Might promised to give him literally the strongest quirk of the world

Christ that kinda makes him even more pathetic, its as if had he not been given powers (the STRONGEST POWER mind you), he would've been destined to a life of bitter mediocrity

>The problem is it is your typical battle shonen where characters want to be THE BEST, not simply the best they can be.

> Doesn't realize Deku wants to be the number one hero.

>Could've settled for doing the best he can to help people like Koichi in vigilantes does

>Doesn't even bother to do physical training or at the very least develop gadgets like Knuckle Duster does.

Why is this manga so beta but the spin off is so alpha

but he did train his body. he did all might's workout plan and cleaned up the beach for almost a year in order to receive OFA

Deku
>Whines and moans about having no powers
>Thinks he's rigtheous for wanting to only be the No. 1 hero
>Does little to nothing to help people around him (friends and family doesn't count)
>Gets everything gifted to him and still manages to suck

Koichi
>Understands that people have their place in the world.
>Throws away future to help a save a single child drowning.
>Does all he can to help others even if he can't be a hero.
>Is constantly getting better at his quirk even though child hood trauma put a block on him.
>Doesn't have egotistical need to be number one, just wants to help others anyway he can.
>Doesn't whine and moan when things don't go his way.

Explain to me again why more people don't read Vigilantes.

> Man wants to become the greatest businessman in the world

>Says he can't because he was born too poor to start one.

>Does nothing to make money or improve business skill because he wants to self pity himself. Nothing but research other businessmen as if that would remotely help.

>Resigns to be poor, but one day random successful CEO promises to give him 2 million dollars, now he wants to work hard at it.

only after he was promised OFA, I too would go and get good grades if Bezos promised to give me all of his Amazon fortune

>The problem is that he only starts to work for it after he gets the power.
No, Speed Reader san, only after the PROMISE of power. There really wasn't much point before. He isn't Bruce Wayne, he doesn't have the superpower of enormous wealth to be able to buy the training, equipment, and drugs he would need to be a hero in his world.

>He keeps talking about how you need a quirk to become a hero but the series shows that that isn't even the case.
Please provide examples.

Knuckleduster HAD a quirk and the physical superiority it provides at one time. And he HAS the money for the drugs and equipment he uses.

>Him applying to the school is like trying to apply to college when you don't even do anything in highschool
So you are now agreeing that without a quirk it would be foolish to apply to UA?

>and him studying heroes was just a hobby at that point
Actually, a refuge. If you look at his actions instead of spinning your own head canon to justify your foaming sperge-rage, you and the other Deku-haters, you see this is a bullied, beat down, unhappy boy whose only escape from his friendless world is dreaming of being a hero. He doesn't try to make that dream a reality because he knows he really can't; but by clinging to hope, he avoids actually being depressed enough to jump off the roof. What he wants is a miracle, and when he meets All Might that's basically what he asks for. When All Might says "no" he's devastated. But is starting to reorient when then, impossibly, All Might returns and says, "Yes".

And that... that's where the story starts.

Its made even more evident by the fact that a lot of quirks aren't even all that helpful combat wise. Sure its better than having nothing, but quirks like Stain's, Toga's, and Eraserhead's only work because of how skilled they are.

Actually, if OfA came with a manual, Deku'd be having a much easier time of it. All Might is an incredible hero and great father figure, but he can't teach worth beans.

I wonder how Nana was as a teacher. Given how well her pupil did, I suspect pretty good. I'm looking forward to when Deku develops enough he can talk to the past OfA users and start getting their stories. Especially hers'.

You sure you could manage that, user? It might mean working all the time instead of posting here.

nice reddit spacing

Expecting anyone who reads this shit to not frequent reddit was your 1st mistake

There's also Amazing Spiderman # 33, where by sheer force of will he lifts a monstrous weight off himself, escaping a death trap so he can save Aunt May. That showed clearly it's not just power or wit that makes Spiderman special, it's heart.

Actually, he's framed as being and extremely intelligent, analytical otaku. Please get it right. As to Bakugo getting better grades: Speed read, much? That's largely the point. Bakugo is a prodigy, super smart, super strong, super competent. What's holding him back is his ego and attitude. That's why Deku is always "I want to beat Kacchan!"; because he's the best. And if you can beat the best, what does that say about you?

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>does absolutely nothing to achieve his dream
you can't "work" to get a quirk

i dont like mha or the beta faggot
so why dont people still get that it would cater to the general through a blank and bland character so it be easy to self insert
just ignore it or do you continue hate it just because its more popular than what you like?

I get why he didn't even bother to get fit before getting a quirk, quirkless heroes aren't really well addressed in the series. You have All Might telling him that he can't be one without a quirk, but is later inspired by his recklessness and desire to save people. He told him that he can be a hero, but that willingness in the end wasn't what really made it possible for him to be one, it was All Might being inspired enough to make him his successor. The speech means nothing because having OfA is what truly made it possible, Deku's willingness to risk his life is only a distraction to the harsh reality of his inability to be hero without a quirk.
But whatever, so far this is a pretty standard motivation, it gets weird though the farther we go into the series. Mirio completely obliterates the idea that you can't be a hero without a quirk, because he successfully stalls a villain with one of the most dangerous and versatile quirks in the entire series, being able to pressure Overhaul without a quirk means that he has a legitimate chance to still deal with a lot of less powerful villains, that should be good enough, not everyone can be All Might. This idea is further reinforced by Vigilantes through Knuckleduster. Hori however refuses or is unable to actually address this contradiction, because Mirio is currently retired and Knuckleduster is only able to act as a vigilante. So people without quirks can't be heroes except when they can? This makes it really obvious to me that Hero Academia was initially planned with Deku being like Batman, but pressure from editors or maybe Hori changing his mind forced a change that was detrimental to Deku's character. The point of the story was going to be how everybody can be a hero.
What truly kills the character though is his complete unwillingness to confront or even avoid his bully, his duel with Bakugou might have put his motivations into perspective, but I still can't respect anybody who's this much of a doormat.

There's just something so loathsome about a character praising his bully as being amazing. It's true, Bakugou is a prodigy, but Deku's still a kid, not a saint, yet he behaves like an alien. This character quality is even worse to me than Goku's "woah, this guy is strong!" attitude, at least Goku comes from a race of autistic fightfags.

It's almost as if this shitshow is written by an absolute hack.

avoiding or fighting your bully is doing what they expect you to do, its playing into their fantasy, and that makes you a doormat and a slut.

He literally had to train hard at the beginning, it’s explained directly

I know right. Imagine now even being a Chad in your own manga

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*Not

Also: O MY SEVEN QUIRKS

Why did you post Todoroki next to Deku?

Peter had no intention of being a hero and he was an asshole for a while after he got bit. Cap's the only good argument.

Do we even know if he whined and cried his whole life? He didn't work out sure, but he was still an otaku and took notes of heroes and still passed the requirements needed to be able to take the Entrance Exam before getting his quirk in the first place.

It's pretty implied, he goes into how he struggled for a while to get a quirk to manifest. And generally just holding that candle.
Deku from what it seems just held that little ember of hope that he could miraculously be a hero like AllMight.
He didn't truly give up until AllMight himself said to pack it up, and even then he still tried to help Bakugo.

>because he successfully stalls a villain with one of the most dangerous and versatile quirks in the entire series
For five minutes. Admittedly it was a crucial five minutes, but a lot of that was due to surprise. Overhaul was just not prepared for someone who could move as fast, hit as hard, and not give up as Mirio could without a quirk. It confused him, he who was focused so much on quirks. Eventually he would have stopped underestimating him, turned the whole cavern into knives, and slashed Lemillion into a million (pieces, that is), but the others got there first. So all the example proves is the same thing Batman proves: When you've got the writers on your side, you can take on God. Otherwise, you're going to die.

Also, Knuckleduster HAD a quirk, he's got money, he's only a quirkless hero now because he's got no choice and he makes up for it by being a crafty SOB.

Ontop of that, it's destroying him.

Why does everyone always ignore that All Might only said Deku can't be a hero without a quirk because he himself was quirkless?

Hori already said MHA was planned with Deku being a Batman like hero but his editor said to change it.

he was depressed and tried to commit suicide by villain and failed at it
he cant even die right

Listen, never ever in your life post again. You are disgusting

Goddamn this is top tier cringe

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If you two gave ME praise like that I'd post like there was no tomorrow. Just for you.

Not so much ignored it as concluded "Well, yeah, in that case he would know, wouldn't he?"

>doesn’t get /fit/
He wasn't in bad shape though. OfA just needed special training

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yikes

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>you see this is a bullied, beat down, unhappy boy whose only escape from his friendless world is dreaming of being a hero. He doesn't try to make that dream a reality because he knows he really can't; but by clinging to hope, he avoids actually being depressed enough to jump off the roof. What he wants is a miracle
Stop projecting.

Knuckle duster

He is vigilante, and Deku's role model is the Cape.

MHA has a lot powerful techno shit but no one is using it for some reason. We have giant fucking robots.

Nice dubs Senpai, and you are right, but like I said, that's just shifting the problem and not solving it.

What I’m saying is that it’s easy to give Deku an op, fake power.

Yes, but it's just as easy to give Deku OfA,which is a lot flashier than an exosuit or something along those lines.

If you don't like the show just stop watching it. That's what I did.

Are you retarded?

I think what people keep forgetting is that even in goddamn chapter 1 he knows he is chasing a pipe dream and clinging on to a vague hope.

Fuck even at the end of the chapter he was prepared to let his dream die.

>That being said, Peter did put a lot of work into being a hero outside of his powers
Yeah, AFTER he became a hero.

People always mention Deku having to train hard at the beginning as a counterargument but the point is his will to be a hero was not great enough that he actively demonstrated he wanted to do so of his own accord. Saving Bakugo doesn't quite have a proactive punch because it makes him seem more stupid and reckless than actually rational and active. He could have been acting out of suicidal impulse for all we know. Other MCs demonstrate from the get-go that they want to achieve their goals and are strong about it. Even if they get help, ultimately they pushed themselves.

Deku didn't exactly push himself into becoming a hero. His hopes were already crushed and he just jumped after Bakugo like a retard, in which All Might rewarded him with superpowers for it and told him to train.

Deku doesn't come off convicted or even mildlu mentally strong. When he tried to save Bakugo the nigga was crying and slobbering. It doesn't come off admirable, it makes this bitchboy's powers feel unearned.

Heroes were not the norm in his world. He was the one that established the basic principles of one.

Not to mention he would most probably have just been an onlooker like the rest if it didn't just happened to be his precious Kacchan in there.

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What's Polnareffs battlecry?

HORA!

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modern shonen work everyone, i miss the old ones

In a way Deku is more like an isekai MC rather than a shounen MC, since he is a nerd that gets granted a cheat that allows him to live his fantasies.
But even then, most isekai MC are overpowered because of all the time and effort they wasted on their hobbies, either autistically learning normally useless skills or grinding in videogames until their characters were max out, so you could argue that Deku did less than the average isekai MC to earn his powers.

People say Tanjiro is a ripoff of Deku but he was strong about his goal from the outset. Not once was he ever convinced that he couldn't protect his sister prior to meeting Giyuu - and when Giyuu did break him down, he responded by taking a chance and really proving himself instead of just giving up hope.

Obviously "protect your sister" and "be a hero" aren't really comparable, but it goes back to Deku letting everyone get him down and it not really being a good look for him, especially if we're supposed to look at him acquiring One for All as "hard work", because the beginning does not establish him as a hard worker or someone who is very firm in what he wants. It works wonderfully for a more sympathetic sort of tale and a zero-to-hero story but Deku himself feels more like he was thrust into the position in spite of his personality, rather than BECAUSE of his personality.

kys nigger

why was polnareff so much better than jotaro?

Jotaro's personality was too subdued and we didn't get enough looks inside his head for us to like him. He also didn't shit himself very mucv until the Dio fight, and protags are just way more fun to watch when they struggle and have setbacks. Giorno has the same problem but amped up to 11, because even Jotaro had quite a few humanizing moments.

Deku isn't a genius, but he is shown to have slightly above average intelligence and critical thinking compared to the rest of his class. He has good tactical ability. Is he a master strategist? No, but he can analyze people and create solid strategies to beat them with enough preparation.

Crawler>Virgin Deku

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Mirio is a chad, Dekushit is a beta.

He was the real protagonist of Part 3 like how Koichi is the real protagonist of Part 4 and Bruno is the real protagonist of Part 5.

>you could argue that Deku did less than the average isekai MC to earn his powers.

He left his bedroom and went to school, that's already doing more than the average Isekai protag.

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Wow. you sure showed me.

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>We know he becomes the biggest chad by the end of the series
kek

>Amazing... OP instantly made this conclusion and moved the conversation forward!
He gets handed a power that has been 100% in action certified to be the best of the best that he just needs to grow into, and now we're supposed to feel that SEVEN are necessary
This series is a joke

He would have flunk the entrance exam and give up on his dream without All Might's intervention so he was probably on his way to becoming a hikineet.

Kek. True. Deku did absolutely nothing to get them and still did.

>rick and morty picture
>reddit spacing
oh no no no
>I was told my bullies were my friends
>my bullies
look at the top of his head

are all of you fucking retarded

>The first part
But that's not true. If he trained with a weapon or martial arts or even studied in a support program and made his own shit he could've been much better than a lot of his classmates. If he actually applied himself he could be better than a guy whose power is that he has a tail. A lot of quirks are just parlor tricks or gimmicks. Just look at his parents, he could've either gotten the ability to breathe fire or lift small objects. When you think about it a taser would be much more effective than those

>Please provide examples.
Both Stain and Toga beat heroes even though their quirks aren't good for fighting. Stain jumps from wall to wall and unironically uses a shit weapon like a sword. There's no reason why Deku couldn't also do this if he trained

>So you are now agreeing that without a quirk it would be foolish to apply to UA?
... Did you read my post? Because either you didn't or you're just retarded. It wasn't him not having the talent that's the problem it's that he didn't put in any work despite that but still wanted to apply to the top school. That's just arrogant, even someone talented like Bakugo worked to get into the school

>Last part
Having a quirk doesn't mean you can't have friends. He doesn't have them cause he's a crybaby loser faggot who can't even try to get his dream. As somebody who studied heroes he should know that a quirk is far from necessary to make a difference. Hell he was fighting Bakugo evenly without using his quirk for a while which just goes to show what some actual training can do for you. He decided to be a depressed loser who only had one thing stopping him from killing himself instead of trying to better himself and still tried to apply to that academy. What a pathetic bitch

Clinging to hope isn't just as easy as studying heroes and imagining that you could be that cool one day, clinging to hope would be actually trying to go for that goal instead of masturbating to Mt. Lady in his room while crying

Deku was like a mute kid wanting to be a famous rapper. Sure he watched all the videos, went to all the concerts, wrote down his lyric ideas, but knew he couldn't sing a tune. When everyone around you has a voice and you don't, and you get put down for it, odds are you aren't going to expect things to happen the way you want them to even if you try. Trying to get into Berklee is something you know is only going to be a fantasy unless Busta Rhymes blesses you with his vocal powers and trains you himself. You can try, but you'll have it in the back of your head that it's not gonna happen. It's only when you have the ability and desire to sing that you actually start learning all the vocal lessons you need. Deku trying for UA is something he knew was a pipe dream, but not within his abilities. Doing it in the first place was him giving himself one last attempt before fully giving up. He was passionate enough about his dream that he didn't let All Might leave without asking his question at least. He was fine and ready to give up the dream after attempting to save Kacchan and getting reprimanded by everyone for it. When All Might shows up and gives him hope, he takes it and pushes himself relentlessly to make his dream a reality. I don't get how people get so mad that he wasn't training like a mad man prior to getting that hope when he literally had none.

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>Deku was like a mute kid wanting to be a famous rapper.

Except he wasn't. That's retarded. He could still do any number of things in order to help people. He didn't want to be a hero. He wanted to be the best hero and if he can't be that then fuck even bothering helping anyone. A mute man can still be a poet.

Didn't think they could make an MC more whiny than part 2 Nardo

Izuku is as pathetic as naruto was when he fainted for Sasuke

Yeah but BTFOing Sakura during that same Arc kinda brushed that shit to the side for me
Izuku is just a fucking mess, at least Sauce and Nardo had some form of a relationship so if you were really stretching it, you could barley make it work
Can't say the same for Izuku where there is no reason for him to be praising baku and sucking his dick at every corner

>Can't say the same for Izuku where there is no reason for him to be praising baku and sucking his dick at every corner
I think that's a leftover from Bakugou's former character iteration, where he was a genuinely nice guy who says incredibely rude and mean and degrading things by accident, and Hori just didn't have the time or more likely, writing sense to adjust it. It makes sense in that regard that Deku would keep putting up with it since he knows better.

>Kacchan please

Imagine if instead of being a whiny sad sack pussy, Deku was actually out trying to do stuff. Small things like rescuing cats from trees, picking up litter or helping an old woman carry her bags. Imagine if he actually put in effort to make his neighborhood better on his trek to become top hero. Maybe he gets his ass beat helping someone with crappy quirks against bullies. Maybe he does all this while trying to get into the school but everyone tells him he's just gonna fail, and while you can tell it gets him down, his inner heroic spirit pushes him to keep on even if part of him knows it's impossible. But heroes don't give up because something is impossible.

Wouldn't that be a person who sounds more worthy of being rewarded with the power to make a difference? Someone weak who wasn't afraid to act. Someone borderline useless who still wanted to make a difference. Someone who not once, not twice, but his whole life tries to help those around him.

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/thread everyone, trip of truth right here.

Alright a whomst is more twisted twice or the joker?

You're going to have to be more specific. Which Joker are you referring to?

That's a terrible sentence, son. Just awful.

Why would he put in a lifetime of effort to become a hero when he can just mope for 15 years, jump into danger for one person one time, and then get everything he ever wanted because his idol happened to be impressed by his reckless stupidity?

He could become a cop. But he’s literally fixated on becoming Something akin to the boxing hwyweight champion of the world without having a plan or anything

Instead of still being interested or liking your bully like a fucking cuck

>Maybe he gets his ass beat helping someone with crappy quirks against bullies. Maybe he does all this while trying to get into the school but everyone tells him he's just gonna fail, and while you can tell it gets him down, his inner heroic spirit pushes him to keep on even if part of him knows it's impossible. But heroes don't give up because something is impossible.

He literally does EXACTLY that though.

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>mfw there is actually a mute kid that managed to become a rapper
The fuck

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Ill admit I forgot about that bit, but the fact that it's only once instance before he retreats into his shell forever really doesn't change my mind

Man

this panel is somehow worse now that i failed becoming a police officer

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Well shit. Consider my mute point void.

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Don't worry. We never considered valid in the first place. But really that's the whole big thing. Deku gave up before he even tried. He was told he couldn't be the best ever so rather than being his best he became his worst.

Deku is a shit mc that had the chance to grow up and wasted it.
Damn self-inserters defending this delusional kid just because their life sucks too.

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A) Momo is trained in staff fighting. I don't recall that being the key to victory for her.

B) The stipulation was, what characters WITHOUT QUIRKS became heroes. First of all you cited two villains, and second, even there you chose ones that had quirks. So I ask again: What person born without a quirk has become a hero, except through the use of One for All?

(I have my suspicions about Stain. He showed superhuman reflexes, abilities, and tolerances. It might have been training. It might have been during the years he was wandering around training he encountered AfO and the doc and got 'modified'. He wasn't that good as Stendhal.)

C) Yes I read your post, which makes at least one of us. Bakugo had a quirk. Everyone in UA has a quirk, even those in General Studies, Support, and Business. All Might himself said without a quirk you couldn't be a hero or get into UA. Your head canon is invalid.

D) We saw with Melissa how big a thing it is not to have a quirk. Deku's dream was to be a hero like All Might; the reality was, he couldn't. And he couldn't accept that until his emotional maturity caught up to him. Ironically, that seemed to happen just before All Might, impressed by him, came to him with his offer...

(Are you going by the dub version of the anime? If so, that explains things because there is a subtle but significant difference. Dub Deku is "I will go towards my dream, NO MATTER WHAT!!" THAT'S the guy you expect to be training to be a hero. Sub Deku is, "I... I'd... I'd really like to be a hero. Saving lives with a smile. Like All Might. Is there... is there any way that's possible?" That's the guy you worry might jump off that roof, after all.

>bullied kid has no confidence
Color me surprised.

>It's okay for me to suck because I get bullied. It's all their fault.
Nut up you pussy.

>But really that's the whole big thing. Deku gave up before he even tried. He was told he couldn't be the best ever so rather than being his best he became his worst.

And that's part you seem to keep missing. He was trying, he was hopeful, he sought ought advice from his idol even when he was getting brushed aside at the time. He was plenty happy to study heroes and actively applied to UA even when people criticized him for it. He showed several times over the series that despite being weak he was otherwise a compassionate person. He may be a fanboy for Heroes, and his reasons for it aren't for fame and glory, but because he thinks saving people as a hero is the best thing ever. He seems to keep relatively upbeat about his dreams until Bakugou and his class gave him shit for it and he had a bad day. It's not like he moped for days after getting his feelings hurt by All Might, it was one afternoon, and he was ready to move on and grow by the end of it before All Might came rushing in to make him an offer he couldn't refuse. Just because he didn't work hard the way YOU would've liked doesn't mean he didn't do anything at all.

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>At an age where you are most emotionally vulnerable
>Constantly bullied all of his life
>Others around him, even his own mother, keep telling him that his dream is impossible
>Only point of comparison is another kid gifted with an amazing combat quirk, which further fuels his inferiority complex
>No father figure to uplift him
What did you honestly expect was going to happen?

>He was told he couldn't be the best ever so rather than being his best he became his worst.
Deku going full school shooter would have been more interesting than the shit we got.

>without a quirk you couldn't be a hero or get into UA
Didn't Mineta got into UA with test scores alone? Even if the robot test is imposible for someone with no quirk, it is clearly posible to get in if you study hard enough.

>He may be a fanboy for Heroes, and his reasons for it aren't for fame and glory, but because he thinks saving people as a hero is the best thing ever.

If that were at all true he would have studied to be a cop or a doctor or any other hundreds of things. He didn't want to be hero who saved people hell he didn't even want to help people he wanted to be THE BEST HERO and when he was told he couldn't he spent his whole life not helping anyone outside of that one instance.

And once again, being HOPEFUL or COMPASSIONATE is just a fat load of bullshit until you actual work towards something. It's meaningless back patting and self reassurance so you can excuse your own worthlessness. Hope and Compassion are the start of being a hero not the end of it. He didn't NOT work the way I wanted him to he didn't work at all. You're spouting excuses.

>A
That's because she's retarded and didn't fight efficiently at all. Beginning of series Deku literally flipped Bakugo's ass on the ground. Imagine if he actually trained with flips and holds? He could incapacitate most of the humanoid characters

>B
Are you retarded? Do you not understand the point of my argument? It doesn't matter if they have quirks or not, it's the fact they can do all that crazy shit without their quirks. That was all physical effort

>B2
Now that's actually headcanon no matter how you spin it

>C
Now you're just changing the fucking argument. You misinterpreted what I was saying entirely, just admit it. And the series shows that what you're saying clearly isn't the case as if UA would reject anybody without a quirk Deku wouldn't apply in the first place and if you're talking about ability I've already pointed out how somebody with martial arts or the ability to use a weapon could be better than some of Deku's classmates

>D
Never saw the shitty movie and I absolutely don't care to as it is a secondary piece not intended for the original story line. And Deku wanting to be a hero like all might doesn't mean he wanted to be the #1 hero. He wanted to be a cool hero that could protect people with a smile, which he could easily do without a quirk as I've gone over multiple times

>D2
>Dub
Ew fuck no. I don't even watch the sub really, I read the fucking source material. The manga looks much better than the anime too, Hori's a really good artist

>All Might himself said without a quirk you couldn't be a hero or get into UA.
But Deku was allowed to apply to UA. He only got his quirk the morning before taking the test, so he applied when he had no quirk.
What would they have done if he actually managed to destroy enough robots and rescue enough people to be in the top 36 students?

You're saying that he was trying.
But in order to try, you have to actually DO something.
Thinking really hard about accomplishing a goal is not trying.
Trying is performing actions that will lead you to accomplishing your goal, which Deku never did.

Yeah he obviously could have gotten in if he meet the conditions.
There’s no rule a person without a quirk CAN’T be a hero, the vast majority of humans don’t have battle relevant quirks. Humans in this series are far stronger than normal humans given Stain, Toga, Mirio, Bakugou, etc all have quirks that don’t enhance physical abilities yet they all can keep up with heroes.

>If that were at all true he would have studied to be a cop or a doctor or any other hundreds of things. He didn't want to be hero who saved people hell he didn't even want to help people he wanted to be THE BEST HERO

It's not like he ever said he would never do those things. He was in fucking middle school! His UA application was an immediate option in his life that he probably would've regret never trying for. We have no idea what he would've become if he didn't have that, odds are he would have been a cop.

>and when he was told he couldn't he spent his whole life not helping anyone outside of that one instance.

What the fuck are you even talking about? Him getting the final confirmation he shouldn't, helping Kacchan, and reevaluating his future before he got a yes from AM happened in the span of a single day. If you mean helping people as a kid, than, again, he tried to help the bullied kid, and we even see later him actively trying to help young Bakugou after falling. Since we didn't get an entire view of what he did during those ten years, we have no idea if he did nothing or not. You're just assuming he didn't to fit your own narrative.

>It's not like he ever said he would never do those things. He was in fucking middle school!

Ok? And? He still didn't. Time waits for no man. At first it's just in middle school, then it's just high school, then you're an adult. If not now, when?

>Since we didn't get an entire view of what he did during those ten years, we have no idea if he did nothing or not.

We know plenty of what he didn't do. We know he put up with everything everyone said, we know he never got stronger or worked harder. You can't just assume he was off doing shit when all signs point to the contrary. If he did something they'd have shown it.

B-But Gentle wasn't a kawaii, nice, """intelligent""" teenage boy

Based and truthpilled
Fags that come from a single parent or home or whose father was betas just has a stopgap at their potential

samefag again, maybe people will believe you this time.

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Would you have noticed the poster count go up if you wiped the tears obscuring your vision apparently

>Dekuck self-inserters

>does absolutely nothing to achieve his dream, doesn’t get /fit/ or put any effort into being a hero
I read the first few chapters and he does get /fit/.

uraraka looks like she's going to kill jirou

>I read the first few chapters and he does get /fit/.
Ask yourself this. Did he do that before or after being promised the strongest Quirk in the setting if he managed to get /fit/?

You know I'm getting sick and tired of people trying to defend puss bucket MCs by saying they're young or whatever other bullshit. Stories have been about youthful heroes overcoming great odds and triumphing over themselves since we've been telling fairy tales. There's a world of difference between being humble and having your hero be a completely worthless coward who blames his problems on everything around them when they had every chance to take charge of their own actions.

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Except this literally gets debunked in the first Bakugo fight where he just changes up his tactics slightly and Deku’s “Tch... all according to keikaku” is rendered useless.

>Ok? And? He still didn't. Time waits for no man. At first it's just in middle school, then it's just high school, then you're an adult. If not now, when?

In high school? In college? Y'know, when MOST people decide on an official life track? I think you're expecting way too much from an average downtrodden 14-year-old kid in a world where he is considered a minority. Besides, of course he still didn't after the fact, he's got his lucky break and is doing what he can with it. He went out of his way to help Kota, and was the first to try an protect Eri when even Mirio was telling him to leave her be. Even before that he helped Uraraka during the exams. That helpful nature being the only reason he got accepted to UA in the first place. All Might didn't even help him get into the school outside of giving him a power he couldn't properly use.

>We know plenty of what he didn't do. We know he put up with everything everyone said, we know he never got stronger or worked harder. You can't just assume he was off doing shit when all signs point to the contrary. If he did something they'd have shown it.

The very first thing the manga and anime show us is him trying to help another kid. You seem adamant on ignoring the moments from his past we do see in order to fit your "he should have been doing this and that" mindset. We know he ran around town to learn more about various heroes and studied what they do, a knowledge he even applied when trying to save Bakugou from the sludge villain. We know he put up a fight when it meant helping others, but had very little self esteem otherwise and wouldn't defend just himself. We know he wasn't giving up on his dreams despite his nature when the teacher revealed he applied. We know he willing to get stronger when he realized he needed to. You can keep saying he didn't do anything, but facts are there. He did something, and we were showed it. You wanted different, that's on you.

>Decuck self inserters

>you know an mc is shit when most of the my hero academia fandom and other anime fandoms shit on him

New generation Shinji

>There's a world of difference between being humble and having your hero be a completely worthless coward who blames his problems on everything around them when they had every chance to take charge of their own actions.

It's a good thing that's not what happening here.

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I haven't heard anything of him being considered a genius.
But the call him something like a tactical genius with his notebook

Another beta character triggers the betas.

Brings joy to my heart that people have been sharing my edit.

> muh kacchan

fuck off.

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>Muh hero needs to be adorkable pure baby so I can self insert him

That only works in a universe with a fitting powersystem or it's just dumb writing, if a quirkless person could surpass the actuals talents then quirks would either be shit or every user a lazy retard.

>all he does is copy the rest of his class, no originality in his thinking
Only legitimate complaint imo

>STILL no scans
Even the hues don't give a shit enough

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>literally all he has to do is repeat poetry
Wow so difficult

He doesn't even have to surpass people though. He's where he wants to be voluntarily and the only thing he has to do is his best. He doesn't have to be the number one hero or face immediate death, he doesn't have to collect the 7 dragon balls to save his friends, he just flounders about doing fuck all for no reason with no long term or short term goals.

What honestly happens if he doesn't get some plaque saying he's the bestest ever? Why can't he be content to just be HIS best?

I'm pretty sure when he says wants to be a legendary hero like all might he is going by his own personal best.

No, that's him saying he wants to be better than everyone. He's still not actively trying to be the best. If I say I want to be the fastest runner and work my butt off for the big track meet and come in third, I would certainly be upset I didn't win, however I could still take pride in the work I did and use that to fire me up to try again.

What has Deku done to be the best? NOTHING. He decided there was no point in trying if he couldn't be king awesome out the gate.

Only brainlets shit on Shinji.

Yep. If Deku was born with an amazing quirk, like Bakugou's, he wouldn't get nearly as far as Bakugou did because he would just be disappointed that he wasn't born with the strongest quirk in the entire world and not even bother trying to strengthen it.

Deku is worse than Shinji.
At least Shinji had a good reason to be such a whiny little bitch. He never had a chance at a normal life. His mom was dead and his dad neglected him, and then he was drafted into being a child soldier to fight aliens that only he could fight because the giant robot was specifically compatible with him. Piloting the giant robot also causes him physical and mental pain because his well-being beyond just staying alive was never taken into consideration.
Deku, meanwhile, is a whiny little bitch because he can't be the best hero in the world. Then gets handed the best power in the world and continues to be a whiny little bitch. The power causes him pain, not because of the nature of the power, but because of his own inadequacies. And anyone could've received the power, but Deku was the one who got it because he whined and bitched the hardest.

That or he would blow his arms off like a drunkard on 4th of July.

>Pick up trash and work out AFTER being promised awesome superpowers
Nah Deku is a fucking loser.
He looks like an even bigger bitch when you realize he was getting styled on in physical tests by people whose powers shouldn't even help them at all physically like Momo or invisitits

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>He's still not actively trying to be the best.

Bullshit. He trains day and night to be as good as possibly can. He studies, he participates in events. He's supportive of his friends. He didn't have the confidence to do it in the beginning, but he's more than made up for it now. It's like you're reading a completely different manga.

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>he's more than made up for it now by doing the vare minimum for half a school year
What a hero

fucking lol'd

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>The bare minimum

Exactly what is the maximum standard you are holding him too? Not skipping a grade? Don't be an idiot.

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He is doing the same shit all of his classmates are doing.

Again, what more do you fucking want him to do? Blow all of the teachers? It's a high school for heroes, and he's doing everything available to him including internships, which not all of the students are even doing.

>Again, what more do you fucking want him to do? Blow all of the teachers?
No, he already did that to get in.

How the fuck do you fail to become a police officer? They literally reject people for being too smart.

I think panels like these are the author interjecting what you expect to be reality thereby pulling you into the story and being like yeah that's true. Then they break that mold and go completely out the left field so you forget it's reality at all anymore and get pulled into the hole that is shounen jump and live in infinite escapism.

Fighting your bully and winning is not what they want to do. Beat them up and they'll stop, this is coming from experience.

Who is the best shonen protagonist who actually consistently feels like an underdog?

Mha is the worst shonen of this decade, stay mad herocucks

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Kenichi, it's a so-so anime that's mostly dumb fun but the main character is consistently an underdog.

cringe

>t. triggered beta

Probably Osamu Mikumo from World Trigger. He actually regularly loses and even when he gets good, the powerscaling is established in a way where he can't possibly be stronger than the people around him (because that'd be unreasonable since they're training too), he'll just get good relative to what needs to be done in the story. His growth is consistently realistic and reasonable and his buffs are few and far between. It'll always astound me when people cite his slow growth as a weak point of this series, because it definitely provides a good portion of the character drama in that the world will never revolve around him being good at things, no matter how much it seems like it should.

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How are the scanlations for this? Any good or is VIZ the only decent one?

The Mangastream ones are perfectly readable, if a little awkward at times.

If you go to Mangaseeonline.us, I believe they have Viz scans up to Chapter 174 or so, if the issue is not having a subscription.

Thanks for the advice, heard a lot of good things about this one.

>>does absolutely nothing to achieve his dream, doesn’t get /fit/ or put any effort into being a hero
>>>all he does is copy the rest of his class, no originality in his thinking

Are you just going to keep posting this until people believe it?

Are you the retard who thinks Endeavor has superhuman strength?

i don't get why quirks are such a big deal. you could literally just make a drug that negates them and then shoot them off. fuck heroes and fuck quirk users.

>He actually regularly loses
That is why I hate Dek
fuck that guy as well then

ww4.readmha.com/
Has the Viz translations.
The read (insert series) sites aren’t that bad with adblocking on.

t. Overhaul

I hate that Dek loses mostly because he doesn't have anything else going for him. I already think the guy is a whiny shitter but then he can't even win half his fights without severe assistance.

If it's someone who is more convicted and likable and happens to lose occasionally it has a far different bend.

The only people who say you need a quirk to be a hero are retards who defend dekushits lack of effort to achieve his dream.

This is for World Trigger my man

>be a selfish fag who wants to be a hero only because you want to be ''da numba one XD''
>the number one hero in the world gives you his super power
>you find out that you need to master this super power or the world is done, turns out All Might is an idiot and was willing to doom the world by giving his power to a random nobody
>instead of giving away the power to someone more competent, you still try and fail to be a good hero
What a piece of shit.
It's really hard to care about the series when the main character is a compete douchebag, the hero of the series All Might is a complete idiot, the rival is a one dimensional asshole, the main villains are just ''hurr I am bad'' or ''hurr I don't think you are a real hero so I will murder you, but I will not murder Deku even though he is the biggest piece of shit out of them all.''
All the actually interesting characters are side characters, and that's probably because there hasn't been enough of a focus on them. If there was focus on them, I am sure they would be ruined too.

Seriously, Shinji gets a lot of shit but he had to learn about the existence of monsters, Evas, Nerv and the fact that he had to pilot it all in the span of like 5 minutes and he still got in the damn robot because it was him or the girl who was missing half her blood.

I think this is a big problem with BNHA. Yes there are villains, and yes there is stuff going on, but by all accounts the kids are supposed to stay out of it all and they're not really the ones responsible for anything scarier than a field day.

>doesn’t get /fit/
He literally does that in like the third episode

Sounds as cucked as people defending Deku. No thanks

That make a lot of sense.

Man even Fairy Tail at least delivers on the fan service and the main heroes being proactive

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Bakugou, someone who actually was working toward his dream was already /fit/ and worked out everyday to become stronger and become a great hero.
Deku didn’t do this until he was promised the best quirk on earth.

I just feel like the character's depiction is more important than whether they actually win or not. Protags who win all the time aren't engage. As long as they don't ACT like losers I don't think they necessarily need to cap every victory.

That tail of his is strong enough to send grown men flying when they're hit by it

Also All Might unironically had it better than Deku did, All Might from the very start was able to use 100% of OFA which is why hes fucking terrible at teaching deku about it

Maybe not the right thing to share in a Deku hate thread.

Knuckle duster is a violent vigilante who uses criminal methods to further his persuit of justice including buying a fucking gun off the black market, and Hauler's quirk has already proven not to be useless at all, he can fly with it, can move extremely fast and even fucking shoot projectiles with it

Bakugo already had a top tier quirk you shithead.

More than help people, he wants to SAVE people. No amount of martial arts training or guns would have ever let him handle overhaul, case in point: Mirio and Night Eye. He would've died to Muscular because once again, bullets and martial arts won't help him. When there's a giant incident like the one where All Might saved hundreds of people Deku would be just as useful as your average firefighter or police man.

He can't have worked out that much

Ignoring quirks Deku got stronger than Bakugo in just 10 months

And yet he still doesn’t slack off and put effort into making sure he wasn’t a weak scrub who is not /fit/, because he knows you have to be /fit/ to actually be a hero.

And a Taser can also knock out somebody if they're hit by it with the added benefit that you can carry it in your pocket so that everybody is the world can't see what you're obviously about to do, doesn't give people something to grab on or attack, and doesn't need you to turn your body all the way around to attack and hope you don't miss cause if you do, you're straight fucked

What are you talking about? You just reversed your entire fucking argument.

>How to spot a mutt
Hori panders to capeshit audience so the image is perfect representation.

If anyone deserves to be shit talked for lucking into things All Might lucked into that shit more than anybody, his predecessor chose him because he gave that pillar speech and once he inherited one for all he was able to fully use it immediatly, something deku hasn't been able to come close to after constant months of training with it

fucking retard

No I didn’t retard.
>Bakugou, someone who actually was working toward his dream was already /fit/ and worked out everyday to become stronger and become a great hero.
Bakugou, despite having a good quirk STILL trained physically because he’s not a retard and actually wants to achieve his dream.
Deku, someone without a quirk, did absolutely nothing to achieve his dream or train his only hope (get fit).

He had the MEANS to achieve his dream by having a quirk you fucking dumbass. He worked out to supplement what he had. Deku could work out all he wanted but it wouldn't do shit against villains without a quirk.

>STILL trained physically
Barely.

>still is a reckless,stupid,beta shit
Come again?

Disabling the robots was it all required so all mineta had to do was just hit a robot with one of his balls

He trained constantly.

Literally this. I don't know why people act like humans are shit without quirks when we've literally been just fine without them for thousands of years

As someone who's /fit, I already did differently than Decuck.

His quirk
Physically Deku got stronger in no time so physically outside his quirk bakugo wasn't particularly strong.
Also Bakugo's entire point and philosophy was that you shouldn't try if you don't have a quirk. His entire training and personality revolved around him thinking his quirk made him superior.

He is the worst person to bring up in this comparison
Bring up Mirio. Hell Knuckleduster if you ignore the copious amount of Drugs
Bringing up bakugo for training either shows that you really are retarded OR you are a false flagging Dekufag who is trying to make it seem like the people who hate him are retarded.

That bottom panel of Deku's face reminds me of shiggy heavily

>bakugo has quirk, works out
>deku doesn't have quirk, doesn't work out
>deku gets quirk, works out
Where's the inconsistency, dipshit?

Read the manga. Hori mentioned his muscles might be “small” but he has extremely strong explosive strength.

>his muscles might be “small” but he has extremely strong explosive strength.
Showing his focus is mainly on his quirk
Exactly.

Gee I wonder if that has anything to do with his literally explosive quirk.

>Hori says something different than what you’re saying
>O-obviously he means the exact opposite

But you didn't disprove him

>Also mentions rock climbing as his hobby at the same time
Cope. Deku did absolutely nothing to achieve his dream while Bakugou did.

No its not that bakugo is weak
But he didn't train like Endeavor or Knuckleduster or Mirio to become a huge monster
His training revolved exclusively around his quirk
Which makes sense given his personality.

>rock climbing gives you explosive strength
Retard.
A paraplegic can't become a cop by working out. Clearly Deku was not as delusional as you.

What? Deku hasn’t shown to be stronger than Bakugou without OfA. Hell, Bakugou kicked his ass in CQC despite Deku having OfA.

>Hell, Bakugou kicked his ass in CQC despite Deku having OfA.
No Deku won the CQC without quirks.

>Bakugou, someone who actually was working toward his dream was already /fit/ and worked out everyday to become stronger and become a great hero.

He picked fights and had an already /fit/ hobby, that's hardly working towards his dream. It's never said that he worked out everyday and we have no inclination about his working hard until he realized he wasn't hot shit at the hero academy. He was a prodigy who was always naturally talented is the most we really know about him.

>Deku didn’t do this until he was promised the best quirk on earth.

You realize how silly it is to expect a kid to know just how much he needs to work out to get that jacked without a club activity, or a personal trainer?

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>Clearly Deku was not as delusional as you.
Deku was on his way to become a cop right before all might offered him OfA
>focus on a more realistic future

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>Allowed to take the UA entrance exam, even when everyone thought he was quirkless
>One guy who got in literally has a quirk that’s just a tail, but trains in martial arts
You’re retarded. Bring quirkless doesn’t stop you from being a hero, given UA, the best hero school in japan, allowed a quirkless person to apply and take the exam.
Kill yourself or read the manga.

>Bring quirkless doesn’t stop you from being a hero
according to all might it does.
So it would even stop fucking All Might

Hell that also implies there is not a single quirkless hero

>Kill yourself or read the manga.
you first.

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>According to All Might
You mean the guy who thought he could literally become a pillar of peace?
No fucking shit he thinks someone without a quirk can’t be a hero, his version of a hero is literally Superman who stops most crime singlehandedly.

Add on to this, a main point in this series is that All Might was WRONG in his methods.
So he’s not exactly the best source for you to use.

Yeah why would Deku take the word of his literal rolemodel, you fucking moron.
Devices are also an option for fighting crime, but Deku isn't Batman, because being a "peak human" super genius with unlimited money and still needing constant asspulls to work is not interesting.

>who thought he could literally become a pillar of peace?
Who DID actually become the fucking literal fucking pillar of fucking peace you worthless faggot.

Literally everyone worth a damn agrees
All Might, Endeavor, Bakugo, Koyomi Araragi
A quirkless Hero would get so many people killed
You can't be a quirkless Hero.

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Batman also mainly fights quirkless mooks
at least that is the point of his crimefighting
His biggest villain is a guy with clown make-up, charisma and maybe a crowbar.

The powerlevel is completely different here

Right, and that's when he's in his element, and the stories are good. Him beating cosmic threats with bullshit is what quirkless Deku would be like.

How is that relevant at all when All Might has been portrayed as wrong in his approach to being a hero?

May because they live in an established superhuman society where getting directly hit by explosions and a human pikachu aren't enough to take people down? What makes you think a taser is going to work on someone like Mt. Lady when she's gigantic or Kaminari when his training is literally electrifying himeself?

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I am sure Yea Forumsfags can bring up Batman beating up tons of super powered people as feats to prove I am wrong and batman totally could do well in the BnHA universe so I want to make this clear

Deku doesn't have his natural 300+IQ
That is basically Batman's "quirk" if you want because he is crazy intelligent. Deku is kinda clever at best. Being that intelligent would undermine not being born with a quirk.
Batman also has INFINITE resources given his bullshit gadgets
Meanwhile in the BnHA universe Heroes with quirks have those resources and Gadgets are mainly used to ENHANCE quirks.
Also batman is an adult.

Because they have skin and muscles? I don't think you know how those interact with electricity

There are more ways to help people than just donning a silly costume and fighting badguys. Most doctors don't have magic healing powers but they still save lives.

Because Deku had every reason to believe he wouldn't get in UA without a quirk, you fucking glue sniffer.

Because he wasn't immediately portrayed as being wrong? All Might literally was the symbol of peace, and know one was particularly aware of what the ramifications of that would mean until they lost him. Deku especially wouldn't know that off the bat. All he knew was that his role model was someone amazing who can save a lot of people and make it look like nothing.

He probably would have if his mom didn’t give him crippling low self esteem.
If she had just said
>You might have a disadvantage but should still try to achieve your dream
He probably would have done more than what he did do, taking hero fanboy notes.

I don't think you know how the universe in BNHA works at all. By your logic, half the cast should be dead just from using their quirks.

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If he had no chance he wouldn’t have even been allowed to take the test.
Do you lack reading comprehension? How is it you can’t piece together such a simple concept?

I said he had every reason to -believe- he wouldn't get in, you illiterate fuck.

80% of the side characters exist for a one-note gimmick or bad joke anyway so

the exams to be admitted to a hero school are physically strenuous so the candidates need to have a certain level of physical fitness. Deku never trained even though he had everything against him, he was only talking bs about being a hero or even passing the test.

He was allowed to take the test, but that didn't mean he had a chance of passing it. Even with 10 months of training to get /fit/, he couldn't get through without using his quirk and only passed cause he helped Uraraka. He was done for if not for that. I don't understand how you could complete overlook that pretty key detail.

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Well Quirks are presented as evolutionary and with the assumption that they won't die from using them, just like flight or super speed should kill most comic book heroes who have them. That's just suspension of disbelief. But for the most part these characters are presented as normal people who would die if they were shot in the head

Except being allowed to take a test that all future heroes take, I guess.
The fact he was ALLOWED to take it should indicate to anyone who’s not an idiot that he has a chance.
Please, learn to read before throwing around insults.

Not him, but if I had to speculate: Deku being allowed to take the entrance exams despite being quirkless is probably part of some low-key totally-not-supposed-to-be-exclusionary-but-really-is system. On paper a noquirk can take the written entrance exam and if they pass that they get a shot at the practical exam which is very obviously impossible to pass without having a quirk of a certain type. Meanwhile someone with a quirk, the right connections, and retardedly high test scores can get in without having to take the practical. Getting in by grades alone was never presented to Deku as an option despite a good quarter of his class only being in because of that.

> Deku never trained even though he had everything against him, he was only talking bs about being a hero or even passing the test.

See Training didn't even help him pass without activating OfA. He had the physical fitness needed by the time the test rolled around and almost failed anyway due to a lack of a reliable quirk.

Because like I already fucking said, you can get in quirkless if you're Batman. But Deku isn't Batman and he's aware of it.

>Training didn't even help him pass without activating OfA
Maybe because 10 months of training is fucking nothing. He started too late.

people expecting a middle schooler to completely chart out his path in life is hilarious. Could he have worked out more? Sure but even his cream of the crop classmates weren't all that well prepared for heroics outside of their quirks. Even Bakugou realized that he wasn't working hard enough and he's a goddamn genius. Sounds to me like people just don't like the idea of a crybaby nerd with a heart of gold growing into superman

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He could actually pass said test without super powers thanks to the existence of rescue points. It was already mentioned that beating up giant robots wasn't the only way to pass.

Nobody is telling him to completely chart out his life just that he had a dream that he could' easily have tried to accomplish but just chose to cry about it his entire life. He really couldn't join a fucking Karate class if he was planning to apply for the most prestigious Hero school?

Yea Forums are such hypocrites.
Pic related does absolutely everything to achieve his dream.
Yea Forums still hates him

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>Maybe because 10 months of training is fucking nothing. He started too late.

Now your just desperately pulling at straws.

10 months is enough for a pretty significant improvement. Not to mention he was trained by the strongest man in their world. Training for 10 months put him in the same physical category as most of his class excluding those with obvious differences in weight class and mutations. Others with weaker bodies had quirks to rely on. He was pretty much doomed without it, the story makes that pretty clear.

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this, it happens in the very first fucking arc i don't get how people miss it
he also goes for jogs and uses the weights in his room, i don't like deku either but denying him getting physically stronger is just a blatant lie

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Deku's got a massive 12 incher (13 if he's using OfA)

>D...did you forget that he worked out for three months straight?

His goal is to become the greatest hero to have ever lived. He got the quirck from the greatest hero and proceeds to do jack shit. His dedication and training is average at very best.

He should be obsessively training in every aspect to the point of becoming annoying to his fellow classmates and building up such a reputation in UA and beyond.

Yet he just magically saves the day every time without any of that. His dedication and personality growth just dropped off past the first few chapters. It doesn't exist.

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Why would Deku need a big dick when he's obviously a bottom bitch for Bakugo?

Because Bakugou is a closet BDSM enthusiast.

the rest of his classmates are "average at best." Deku works way harder than his peers except apparently bakugou

I haven't read/seen KnY but was the mc in that genetically disadvantaged when it came to his goal of protecting his sister?

In a different world Deku would have realized that someone like Eraserhead is basically fighting without a quirk and tried to emulate that, but at the same time he was told his entire life that it was impossible and that there aren't ANY quirkless heroes. A lifetime of bullying (which is admittedly mostly self inflicted) and his own mother telling him to give up aren't exactly good motivators for a kid like Deku.

>the rest of his classmates are "average at best."

This just shows UA is an absolute joke. These are supposed to be the top hero prospects. The first arc even starts with some bullshit talk about how they wont be able to have a moment of personal life after enrolling.

Isn't UA only considered the "top" because that's where All Might went to?

fuck off. deku has nice butt and for that reason alone, he deserve to main mc

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Pretty significant improvement because his baseline was extremely low. Still, 10 months is nothing, a person needs years, not months to reach a good level of physical fitness and muscles alone are useless if you don't know how to use them.
The whole plan AM devised was a desperate attempt to bring him to barely acceptable for the school Deku was applying and the hellish nature of the training is kinda irrelevant because Deku is still bounded by his biology.
There is also the fact Deku could have applied to a less exigent school and once there, request a transfer of school or build experience for a year and then pass the Yuei exam.
Kinda arrogant to go for the top with a shitty base.

>There is also the fact Deku could have applied to a less exigent school and once there, request a transfer of school or build experience for a year and then pass the Yuei exam.
In japan? You think people wouldn't laugh at the guy needing a year more? Hanging a year behind? Fuck man he wouldn't even make generic sidekick. Your plan is terrible.

You think a school with such security restrictions would even allow the transfer from another school, much less one that was held back? C'mon man.

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Exactly.

Right, but Deku COULD have enrolled into the General Studies course and then transferred into the Hero course, like what Shinsou did. This would give Deku way more time to get acquainted with his new quirk, allow for more stable training under All Might, AND would have made sense.

>Right, but Deku COULD have enrolled into the General Studies course and then transferred into the Hero course, like what Shinsou did.
Maybe he planned to

We really don't know what "focus on a more realistic future" meant
I always saw it as him maybe going for a police officer.

For that matter he could have enrolled into the support course as well. His Hero stalking would have actually been convenient there, knowing what's what and what's most useful for whom and what quirk.