Fate

where did this meme that kings don't have to adhere to laws come from? especially in early medieval monarchies which were decentralized as hell, it might work in absolute monarchies and even then it can end very badly
Kings ignoring laws usually leads to the barons saying fuck all this shit and plunging the country into a civil war
anyway it's a fucking porn game

Being a slut isn't about breaking laws, it's about societal norms. These societal norms were so strong in the middle ages that they were enforced as law as not following them were besmirching the image of the kingdom itself, and there is no greater representation of a kingdom than the king herself. A lecherous king leads a lecherous kingdom.

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What about kings that pretend to be men when they're women?

>Thinking that Late Middle Ages sexual conduct applied to the Early Middle Ages.
Pick up a fucking book. Saber lived during the time when having twenty wives was seen as perfectly normal. When priests still fucked everything with a hole in it. When everybody bathed publicly and had sex in front of their children. And when everybody universally agreed that foreign heathens made the best sex slaves. Hell, depending on the place even homosexuality wasn't that frowned upon, at least as long as you topped.

If anything, Saber is unusually prudish from somebody from that time. She should only be slightly less sex crazy than Nero. A real king from back then would have deflowered a entire harem of pretty girls and boys before the week was done.

Saber is more or less a sub and will go along with whatever others ask of her.

He never said Rin is a deviant bisexual.

But she isn't.

Yeah, she is. I know bisexual people are cancer, but you have to accept your waifu as she is.

The bulk of the Arthurian legend that Nasu implemented in Fate is from the 12th century. The legends of Arthur before the 13th century didn't even involve the search for a Holy Grail or Lancelot.

kings shouldn't be subs

Matou Sakura? More like futoi Sakura!
FATSO

The Legend is from the 12th century. But the actual events took place around the late 5th and early 6th centuries.

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Lose some weight cow!
Sakura matou the pig!

are you implying legends written in the 12th century didn't involve historical revisionism to better match the standards of the present day? I don't think there's a single document out there that portrays arthur as unfaithful, sex hungry, or a deviant.

>are you implying legends written in the 12th century didn't involve historical revisionism to better match the standards of the present day?
They did, at least to some extent. But that still doesn't change the fact that by the standards of the time she lived in, rather than the time from which the documentation of the legend survived, Saber is doing exactly what a king is supposed to do.

>I don't think there's a single document out there that portrays arthur as unfaithful, sex hungry, or a deviant.
You do actually, like, know about the legend, right? Because Arthur is most certainly all of those things to at least some degree.

There are so many logical leaps in this post I'm almost sure its a troll post.

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user, this whole thread is a poor attempt at a shitpost. Just let it die.

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Saber was created to do only one thing. Be the perfect king and the designated fall guy when Camelot inevitably goes under.

She cared very little about about the opposite sex until the fuyuki grail war.

my king

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Is a deviant bisexual with gender issues.

It was a life or death situation, and even then she needed Rin to coax her into it

Oh, King, eh, very nice. And how d'you get that, eh? By exploiting the workers! By 'anging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society.

>Actual kings like Gilgames
Actual kings don't die from paperwork like a bitch

Saber is from the 5th/6th century or so right after the romans retreated and the germanic tribes started to invade Britian. All the christcuck shit you mentioned didn't take root yet. It was a lot laxer than the medieval period that came after. But even if that wasn't the case you are a dumbass thinking if every single King, Noble or even the average Joe back then gave a shit about strictly following religion.

How was Saber the perfect king if her kingdom was at a constant state of unrest, collapsed immediately after she "died" and left no lasting legacy?

It's just mana transfer, it doesn't count.

If Arthur is from the 5th century how is she the quintessential icon of chivalry when she comes from a world more than 5 centuries before chivalry was established? She's very clearly from an alternate history.

>Pick up a fucking book. Saber lived during the time when having twenty wives was seen as perfectly normal
I think ancient celts had polygamy, but other than that most everyone in Europe was monogamous

Weren't the original Arthurian legends written in 11/12th centuries? The writers applied their societal views on it.

So, is not gay if you have to do mana transfer with... I don't know, Gilgamesh and Sakura?

and hence why it is weird for saber to do the things she does in Fate

Correct.

>Premarital sex would get you imprisoned

The requirements for marriage back then was literally just - "Let's be married" "Ok"
All the ceramony and legal sounding talk and making vows in front of a priest only started happening because Boys would agree to marriage just for sex and then pretend they didn't immediately after or girls would lie about that part to trap a bitch.

you are way overthinking a porn game designed to let the nip self insert fuck a blonde white woman

It would not be gay to give a french kiss to Gilgamesh just to give him a sample of Sakura's saliva?

Meant for .

How is it weird if the original material it's based on has her written like that? Chivarly and duty was central to the original Arthur's story so changing that up for Fate would change everything.

I'm just tired of saberfags calling rin and sakura sluts when their waifu is the sluttiest

Straight as a wet noodle

I'm pretty sure it's Rinfags and Sakurafags calling the other one sluts.

You don't need a porn game to do that. Lot of white blond whores are getting JAPED as we speak.

Sluttier than Rin "I would fuck anything that moves" Tohsaka? Don't make me laugh.

Did you literally copy paste the OP from the other thread

That's what Saberfags want you to think.

i fixed a couple typos

The original material does not involve king arthur sucking off teenage foreign boys.

She was the perfect king because she performed the functions of a king perfectly. The problem is that she was in a position where she was going to fail no matter what.

Britan needed to be united, the foreign hordes had to be driven off, Vortigern had to be dealt with. Rome needed to be suppressed.The island didn't have many resources. food was scarce and so on.

The key problem is that she is a perfect individual who rules over people who are not perfect. Their flaws lead to the destruction of the country and there wasn't much she could do about it because destruction was happening at the hands of her subjects. They simply did not like her because she was too perfect.

Also the world was transitioning to an age where humans ruled. Technically, Saber isn't human, she's part dragon. This puts her at odds with humanity itself because of that. Therefore, she had to be removed so that humanity can grow and thrive on earth.

Maybe it should have

>Technically, Saber isn't human, she's part dragon
How does this shit work again

is this series good? any romance?

A little romance. Mostly chuuni shit.

Fun fact. There was a recent discovery of more Arthurian legends.

fair point
but I will always be surprised by white men who play or watch this stuff, like I would never seek out to play a porn game that pairs up a white man with an asian women, yet they have no issues with it
it's weird man

If the original King Arthur was transported to a foreign world after getting summoned they would likely suck off teenage foreign boys or girls in the case of Proto-Arthur.

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Maybe because it's not the medieval era anymore?

Genius.

I think she was engineered to have magic circuits and heart of a dragon.

She's a test tube baby?

>Saber isn't human, she's part dragon
Nigga what? Did I miss something in the VN/anime?

Kind of, but not entirely artificial. She's similar to Mash who was designed to have great magic circuits.

Saber was better in every way compared to Mash because her magic circuits and magical output were equivalent to a dragons. Her magical output was probably beyond anything that existed at that point in time.

Mordred is 100% artificial though.

The Fate anime had a brief mention of her dragon aspect as a replacement for the sex scene. I think. She also has the Dragon trait in FGO.

>failing kingdom
>not respected as a king
Wasn't it just Mordred being a retard? Am I the only one here who has looked into GoA?

I never knew about it until very recently. I couldn't believe that Nasu was capable of writing something that good before Camelot/Babylon came around.

>She literally has her ownership transferred like a black slave in two of the three routes of the game, for fuck's sake
Not like the same thing didn't happen to Gilgamesh in Zero, doesn't matter how much of a king you are, Servants are still servants

Why are Fatefags so unoriginal? This is the same joke again. Saberfags only ever use this joke.
Rinfags use the gem joke.
Sakurafags use, uhh, well I don't actually know of any unironic Sakurafags, but I'm sure they all use the same joke too, or the same defenses against worms.

It's funny because even Solomon himself admitted to that fact.

>being this secondary
Read/listen to Garden of Avalon. Or do an once of research. Nasu wrote a whole mini novel that hasn't been translated and all wr have is a subtitled audiodrama from the perspective of other people from the legend (Merlin, Sir Kay, Arturia, etc.)

I don't think you know what "secondary" means

If they haven't read or watched GoA and they only know what secondaries would know they are technically secondaries.

If one hasn't read the primary source material but has consumed secondary material and/or adaptations, then they're a secondary.

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I'm a die hard Saberfag and have never once called either of them any such thing. I could never dishonor My King.

My King is beautiful!

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>get called out
>deflect like a bitch
Yea Forums has gotten so soft over the years

None of the girls are slutty except where Shirou is concerned. I mean as much as I dislike Sakura during her route it's not like she was dragging shinji into the bedroom or anything

A reminder that Saber's Eclipse is happening in "UBW Good" timeline, so Shirou and Saber are doing deed while Rin is just few walls from them.

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Which route was this

>Literaly written in a post
>user still ask

Rin enjoys NTR though

The true ending is the secret harem route.

>no i see it, i'm just not believing it, i don't remember this at all

It's really NTR, if Rin is fine with it?

Did not read Hollow Ataraxia?

>her warm skin
>damp to the touch
>her cute giggles echoing against the bathtub walls
>her hot breath on your face while she pants in ecstasy
>her firm breasts slightly brushing against your chest
>ywn experience any of this
Just fucking kill me.

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Hands down the hottest Fate h-scene scene. I still remember wanking to it years ago.

If this is hottest, then what Rin's babymaking is?

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>Not like the same thing didn't happen to Gilgamesh in Zero
Wasn't that entirely orchestrated by Gil? Saber getting Rule Broken® or Altered™ are not really comparable to Gil manipulating another master into killing his master for his own benefit. He had been conspiring against Tokiomi from almost day one. In that situation he's basically the master with how much control he had over the whole ordeal.

Don't they get information about their current time period when they get summoned? Her own era and its morals, customs, etc. at that point is past and doesn't matter.

They learn what they need to know (the language, etc) but their moral compass is not altered, as that is part of what makes them the legend that they are. What would Archer be without his mind of steel?

He wasn't putting his all into it, but he was going along as long as Tokiomi showed him appropriate deference; he wasn't actively conspiring to break from Tokiomi until Kirei told him about the plan to force him to sudoku.

But they know that the time period they're in is different from theirs. Even if Saber's moral compass is the same, she knows that at the present, there's nothing wrong with fucking Shirou since its not the middle ages anymore. That and it was required for mana transfer.

That one guy was chewing me out for not remembering ubw so I thought it was in there. But nah, I actually only just finished ubw a few days ago.

The fact that Kirei had to explain why he would murder Tokiomi and then had to ask for permission to do so pretty clearly establishes the power dynamic in that situation. I'm pretty sure it was implicit that the reason Gil was half-assing everything at that point was because he didn't fully trust Tokiomi, especially with the forced withdrawal at the docks. He also has independent action A+, making him the servant that is least tied to his master in the main series.

But it's also been 7 year since I've seen F/Z so I might be wrong in some way.

She is frustrated because her big bro was one of the few dudes in her country who wasn't cool with incest regardless of blood relation.

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