In this topic, hacks that people with shit taste praise and defend to the death

>praise and defend to the death
I don't see how I've defended or praised him "to the death". His exceptional skills as an animator are fact. Opinions don't matter.

the king of hacks

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>Nobody actually defend Tomino outside of /m/
Someone hasn't seen the current Turn A thread here then.

Both Shitkai and most Kusoani directors are shit.

Who do you think makes all the Honneamise and sci-fi shitposting threads? It's crossboarding /m/aggots. Probably the same with the thread you're referring to.

How can anybody other than teens enjoy shitkai films?

Ikuhara simply can't seem to adapt to the current era of anime, where 39 episodes shows are no longer an option. That said I have no idea what he was thinking with Sarazanmai, the shortest show in your career and you fill it with stock footage like never before? Come on.

If you like a Mari Okada anime, it's most definitely your first Mari Okada anime. I couldn't stomach her shit since AnoHina, it's all the same shit.

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>In this topic, creators whose work I am not familiar with but dislike because I once heard someone praise them

Oh, please everyone here has at least seen MSG and Zeta.

King of hacks

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Accusing the opposition of not even having seen the anime in question is so 2008.

You are young
>I forced myself to sit through Zeta just so I could complain about how much I hate Tomino

So people aren't even allowed badmouth someone's works if they actually bothered to watch them? Can't win.

have sex

>nobody posted Miyazaki and Takahata
Nice, I still have some faith in this board
Fuck you

Yes, obviously deciding in advance that you hate someone and then watching one of their works just to gain legitimacy in your own eyes makes you a perfectly qualified connoisseur.

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All I see are baseless assumptions and accusations.

It's funny because a virgin couldn't possibly comprehend Tomino's work.

for me he got redeemed when he started playing with puppets

>*director with alot of critical and audience praise*
Fucking hack.Stop liking him.

If any posts imagawa in this bread then ur a massive hack

As Miyazaki said, his greatest strenght was making candid stories (such as non-filler episodes of Kare Kano). I believe he's a man of talent, but he never reached its peak or was consistently great in his work. After 1997 he went downhill

Do you expect me to cite a study or something?

The average Tomino hater is either
>heard that Zeta is a "masterpiece"
>watched 5 episodes of it
>"wtf is going on!?"
or
>watched 5 episodes of G-Reco when it aired because they heard that this guy Tomino created Transformers or something
>"wtf is going on!?"

And then there are the occasional guy that watched MSG because he heard it was a "classic" but he thinks it is the worst ever because it has "bad animation" and the guy that heard that "Eva is inspired by Ideon" and automatically hated it for that.

How about the fans that like Wing, Seed, 00 and IBO and resent the constant bashing for UC fans they get?

More baseless assumptions in an attempt to substantiate your own claims. Let me try

The average Tomino hater
>watched all of his works multiple times
>finished them and analyzed each individual frame
>"this is garbage, is this clown having a stroke or is be trying to look like an amateur on purpose?"

They should get some taste and stop liking trash.

Wing,Seed,00 and IBO don't get bashing from UC fans. They get bashing from Wing,Seed,00 and IBO haters.
Cool. Lets pretend that this is our first day on Yea Forums.

>After 1997 he went downhill
This but Ponyo was great

>successful
>hack
choose one

Michael Bay is successful. David Benioff and D. B. Weiss are successful. Reki Kawahara is successful. So your point is easily refuted.

>success = quality

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Oh fuck off, Turn A is good.

Because noone actually think either are great directors. There's barely anyone on Yea Forums who doesn't at least hate a third of their catalogue. Who really liked all of Miyazaki's works for example? Most people at least hate Howls and Ponyo.

Is there a bigger pseud magnet than him?

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>Because noone actually think either are great directors
nice projection pleb

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>on Yea Forums
People on Yea Forums don't know shit about anime though

Ponyo is kino though. Do manbabies hate it just because it has children in it?

> Who really liked all of Miyazaki's works for example? Most people at least hate Howls and Ponyo.
Quite the projection,faggot.

>don't know shit about anime though
What has Miyazaki contributed to anime ever since Ghibli started being a thing? The answer is nothing.

>And point proven about Tominofags.

If it doesn't have a plot, explosions, screaming or cute girls then it's shit according to Yea Forums

>cute girls
Did we watch the same movie?

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He hasn't made a good show since Penguindrum

The answer is actually worthwile anime movies, fuck off. You can go watch your favorite KyoAni garbage now

>plot
Ponyo has a plot and its very easy to understand and follow.
>explosions
Ponyo has explosions, they just so happen to be blue and made from water.
>screaming
That's what Fujimoto does for half the film. Ponyo and Lisa scream and yell half the time, too.
>or cute girls
Very much present in Ponyo. Lisa is the cutest, Ponyo's mom has big knockers, girls in the kindergarden and Ponyo herself.

What point? Turn A is the least Tomino Tomino anime. Most people who like Turn A tend to think it is his only good work or at least that it is vastly superior to the rest of his works. People who like Turn A are not Tominofags.

Damn I forgot about Lisa. Yes she is pretty cute

>Nobody actually defend Tomino outside of /m/.
Unfortunately Gundam threads are filled with /m/orons who love him to death.

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t.has never been on /m/

???

I was talking about Anno haha

Oh shit it applies to Anno too, I agree. Hell, it applies to anime in general

*sip*

Can confirm.

Based Shinkaichad.

>puffy vulvas
Every mistake that he did was forgiven.

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You first, OP.

39-episodes is pushing it, but there are still plenty of 2-cour anime being made, some even originals. Mawaru Peguindrum is his best work anyway.

WTF mari okada is a woman?

Utena>>Penguindrum>>Yurikuma Arashi>>Sarazanmai
It's always sad seeing a director peak with their first original and progressively decline from there.

The more that I think about it. Tomino is a pretty good writer. He focuses more on human interpersonal relationships, and use mechas as weapons with space or Tokyo as the backdrop. There's a theater like quality to his work that's missing from other titles.

I honestly see Ghibli becoming a private corporation and shilling merchandise, or Miyzaki's films being bought by the Disney Corporation. Either way, it's gonna be karmic.

Most likely dies of Japanese Cold, or Suicide.

How can other directors even compete?

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ITT: People that I don't like for no reason.

Um, yes. That's kind of where the term comes from.

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Like honestly practically every popular person in the anime industry that gets sucked off and name dropped as a "genius" at this point from directors, writers, composers and studio brands who all just have a "style" that they are known for and is expected of them that they just roll over and over to the tepid praise of their usually uniquely intense and often long established fandoms. They also by and large owe everything to market savvy producers who are good at identifying market ready and easily repeatable popular styles and the non-existent standards of their fans where just barely meeting some checklist for those styles and the show they working on just not utterly shitting the bed on audio/visual production is considered good enough to be amazing at whatever part of the production they are responsible for.

The result is everything kind of noticeably starting to feel the same within given generational epochs of anime and particularly this one which has far more producer backing and overproduction per season than previous ones. After a certain point everything is just kind of mediocre and nothing and nobody truly stands out anymore as uniquely talented. I keep getting this inescapable feeling this is the last generation of anime content creators too and there's just nobody coming up behind any of them that can even carry the pretense of being talented to any degree. Producers are probably going to have to farm out various doujin industries for mediocre talent with a style gimmick that has earned them an intense cult online following even more than they already are.

Honestly that's not entirely fair though, for what it's worth whoever is doing the character design for something is legit the only actually kind of talented person in an anime production 9 times out of 10. Unless of course it's Hisashi Hirai.

But he made Zeta in 1985. And Turn-A in 1999.

Also based on checking out the anime community again in recent months it honestly seems like here's all that's expected of a given person anymore to be considered awesome, but never forget that they all kind of rely on producer marketing backing and getting them in the right places at the right time with the right people above all:

Director: The more full blown Sturm und Drang in their style and just unexpected camera angles and visual cues they can cram into a scene the more people seem to praise them directly. Just add more stuff.

Composer: The more capable of producing loud hype tracks and integration of conventional pop music vocal styles the more they seem to get noticed and considered top tier composers.

Character Designers: Be really good at drawing hot women that fit into a certain set of tropes of what is considered "waifu-material". These people are a dime a dozen nowadays, nothing really else to comment on here.

Writer: Know a lot about established conventions, tropes and cliches within the animu weeb sphere. Come up with ways in which to continually subvert or twist them in upon themselves. Doesn't really matter if it has to be contrived or doesn't really work to any narrative effect or leads to plot holes or characters suddenly acting way out of established character. The fact that you do it is good enough. Also write lots of grimdark twist scenarios in which bad/ironic outcomes happen to the main cast to the point where it's expected of the writer and they become something of a meme. Again totally fine if these twists are contrived and you don't need to be making any particular narrative point either. Bonus points if you have some sort of personality gimmick or deviant fetish that is well publicized. Many of these working in the LN/VN industries and particularly on Isekai stories.

The more you conform to these proven styles in each given arm of an anime production the more popular and praised you're going to be.

Cause all he has to do is show up and do the same thing he's known for and people fill out their Ikuhara Bingo cards and that's supposed to make him amazing. Again a problem that is pretty unique to weeb circles is that none of the popular people seem to be held to any sort of standard or expectation beyond just doing what they're known for.

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>inb4 every single talented creator gets posted in this thread

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Seeing her listed as the writer always turns me off from a show

>No Kubo
Yea Forums has good taste for once

I mean when you look into the sort of stuff that's obviously popular nowadays in the anime scene it's not too hard to see why she's popular and prolific. It's all the same shit but like if that shits what's kind of popular it doesn't really seem to matter anymore. Just another example of a mediocre writer that benefits from low standards of the fanbase. No better or worse than a lot of her peers really.

She also gets an ass ton of producer backing and favor since producers love that she works relatively cheap, writes scripts really fucking fast and consistently on time, makes herself available and doesn't put up any sort of fuss with production committee demands. She might not be the most marketable name that the industry likes to bank on but she's like legit the most readily available scriptwriter that kind of has an idea on how to appeal to otaku.

Cause most of the popular ones kind of legitimately deserve to come up here.

just list every Japanese out there.

>Even the Japanese make fun of his dialogue
lmao, >>>/djt/

Nobody praises and defends Kubo to death

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>unexpected camera angles and visual cues
>integration of conventional pop music vocal styles
>hot women that fit into a certain set of tropes of what is considered "waifu-material"
>Know a lot about established conventions, tropes and cliches within the animu weeb sphere. Come up with ways in which to continually subvert or twist them in upon themselves
>Also write lots of grimdark twist scenarios in which bad/ironic outcomes happen to the main cast
If any of this was true, School Days wouldn't be at a 5.95 on MAL.

BASED AND CHECKED, HOW WILL THE OTHER IPS EVER RECOVER