Why is it so hard for a certain small minority to accept that Jiren is (by far) the undisputed strongest mortal?
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the strongest mortal is pui pui
MANGA IS CANON
Does that make Vegeta the strongest IMmortal?
The following things are unquestionably true and beyond debate.
>manga is canon
>jiren is the strongest
>bejita is the best MC
>anime is axed permanently
>lizard is a gag character now
>gohan is shit
Agreed.
And I'm more of a Brolyfag, but manga Jiren is cool too.
>blatantly headcanons that they are "different"
>get explained like a toddler on how it works
>h-h-headcanon
Depressing
NEXT
Broly is strongest.
The rest are true though.
>toeishills are mindbroken to the point of posting incomprehensible nonsense
>toeishills
I am a toyochad
T-TOEIBROS!?
Enter CUTEhan
Fucking kek
Kid Gohan is tops.
Kid Gohan is peak cute and sexy at the same time.
Facts:
Buff Toppo, SSBKK Goku and SSBE Vegeta are GoD- tier
Suppressed Jiren is GoD+ tier
UI Goku is GoD+ tier
BROLY is GoD+ tier (if we believe Goku)
Full Power Jiren is GoD++ tier
Limit Break Jiren is Angel- tier
MUI is Angel- tier
LB Jiren >= MUI Goku > FP Jiren > UI Goku >= Suppressed Jiren (?) Broly > GoD's > SSBE = SSBKK >= Toppo
So after getting embarrassingly blown the shit out in the last thread, will the Toeicuck commit suicide?
No, he'll be NEXTing and eating his own feces in a padded cell.
Because of fanaticism to their irrelevant characters. Even normies on youtube and everywhere else love Jiren
Kid Gohan is cool and not for sexual. Apologize.
>>manga is canon
Factually wrong
Because it's irrelevant when the strongest immortal, Zen-O, can defeat anyone.
You have been BTFO into literally quoting nonsense from arguments from last week. Thats how deep I hurt these Toyoshits (actually confirmed last thread fo be literally Gohanshitters)
You clearly didn't read
>haha look at my funny meme
Jesus
>CONFIRMED that literal shit is used for Super's scripts
>left speechless
Man, Toeicucks just cannot catch a break.
Dude stop quoting me. I said that who knows how long ago. Fucking creep
Zeno will be usurped by El Grande Padre. The angels will turn evil.
Jiren, Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, Frieza and Broly will team up to overthrow the tyrannical heavens. This is how DBS will end.
>Toyochad and likes Gohan
based and redpilled
>Toyochad and hates Gohan
cringe but redpilled
>Toeicuck and likes Gohan
based but bluepilled
>Toeicuck and hates Gohan
cringe and bluepilled
He got BTFO with the shitren image he would keep spamming for refutation also that he had to make another one. I think he is close to it.
based
What if Toeichad but don't care about Jobhan
Gayren thread. Cute Force and Pan Friends you know what to do.
What if I hate anime Gohan but think manga Gohan is pretty cool?
This is relevant because anime Gohan is all anyone very talks about.
Half-cringe and bluepilled I guess.
based and redpilled
>he thinks I'm a Toeikek
Frankly I'm disgusted to have to share Manga chaddom with Doglykeks
MINDBROKEN
>BrolyCHADS based enough to know the manga is better
>even this irritates Jirentards
Holy shit, we cannot stop winning.
Enter Xijren.
How is it possible that these threads keep getting worse every year?
Jirentards.
>SUPERIORren is better even at dancing
>being this obsessed
>talking nonsense about a pic
done
In this thread I will offer up a detailed and intensive character study of the most monumental and objectively superior character in the franchise, as well as the shining beacon that singlehandedly saved Super from the perils of mediocrity, Jiren the Gray.
Stay tuned.
BASED
I patiently await your analysis o based Jirenscholar
reekdom101...
Enter BASEDza, GODly and CHADgus.
>hes throwing a tantrum again
>SHITrendog facts
>E celebs somehow knew about a supposed new dbs series 6 months ago
>suddenly movie pop ups but their sources didn't tell them anything
>reekdom ofcourse heard something but chose not to believe it
ohnonononono
Based.
cringe
At least you responded to me directly, you fucking bitch. Now post the new one so I can add to your mental breakdown and hopefully rid these threads of you forever
Based
You mean THIS one?
FUCK toei
youtube.com
CHADotoro fixed this
Kek nice damage control. The new one you made after this trash was refuted by me your superior shitposter.
Refuted.
As soon as you hear...
Which new one you fuckface, thats the only one I need.
>look at my funny meme hehe
Done
this cunts voice...
This is so fucking pathetic bros...
Reusing Buu falling asleep twice was so pathetic on Toei's part. Especially since having him fail the written test was such an easy fix.
You can instantly picture him.
Kek.
A gelatinous, mongrel spic...
kek I can't even finish Shitly's movie
>retarded Tarzan
>to call him a dog is an understatement
>most alpha thing he does so far is whiteknight Cheelai
>Paragus is a way better character
like damn negroes, people fag for this?
Where to begin? Perhaps we should start with Jiren's design. On the surface, it appears very simplistic and possibly even generic, a passé take on the popular conception of what extraterrestrials may look like. This, of course, is the outlook of those less learned and knowledgeable of Dragon Ball: to create powerful characters with simplistic and and basic designs is Toriyama's hallmark, and, upon closer scrutiny, Jiren's rather unremarkable design perfectly reflects his character: a simple warrior with but one goal--to achieve ultimate strength. He isn't interested in recognition and fanfare; he has no time for flashy transformations and techniques that merely imitate growth. No, it is his personal desire to FACILITATE growth: spiritual growth, physical growth, and intellectual growth. A rather straightforward and simple goal, much like his overall design. Those with genre savvy or a sharp enough intellect could immediately glean various aspects of Jiren's character simply by laying eyes on him.
Too, his color scheme reflects his inner virtues: crimson, symbolizing his passion for and unwavering belief in attaining his goals (and sharing its color with his aura) and black, obviously symbolizing the bottomless void and never-ending journey of bettering oneself--a journey that never truly ends. Even his gray skin--far from simply being a ripoff of the grays that were so popular in the 50s--symbolizes his ultimate neutrality, being itself a neutral color. He's not interested in fame, fortune, conquering, or dominating: like gray symbolizes, Jiren seeks only to achieve his goals without the burden of interpersonal ties or outside distractions.
Nothing you said refuted anything.
Your damage control was literally
>WAAH WAAH WHIS WASN'T RIGHT IT'S JUST A RUMOR IT'S NOT TRUE!!
That was literally what your "genius" post in amounted to.
I wasn't the guy you were arguing with in that image btw, all I had to was casually point you to the fact that Whis confirms this "rumor" during the ToP as true. Cope forever.
>Done
Arguments: ZERO
QUEERen's power level: ZERO
Toei. Wins. Again. (along with the billions they made)
This. That mong is so retarded that he actually thinks he won by saying "l-lol just rumors" when it has ben thoroughly confirmed Chadren is above GoDs. So retarded in fact that he unknowingly flaunts his defeat.
>changing your narrative
>i-i-it wasn't me
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA THIS KEEP GETTING MORE PATHETIC AND PATHETIC
...almost a bastardized joke on the human form made physical.
>no argument
>no rebuttal
Cope forever
Funny how you couldn't make the same post in this thread and chose to make in the dying one
You still pretend we are one single person? Depressing, no wonder you take that.. Prozac was it? You would know
Kek you are literally DONE here. You may keep posting the refuted for a few days to keep face but you know that it's over. Cope.
>SHITrentard with his revisionism
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Literally hundreds of punches and Freeza just smiles and stomps Jobren lmao
Weaker than base Goku and never mentioned in the same sentence as anyone relevant KEK
Broly being Tarzan-Hulk is better than the umpty-billionth FOTNS ripoff that is Jiren.
>muh dead parents
>I hate love and friendship
>strength is all that matters
Been done.
Based and truthpilled
S-S-STOP IT HE'S HAD ENOUGH FOR TODAY YOU ARE GOING TO PUSH HIM TO SUICIDE STOP
Now, on to the meat of this fascinating character. At first glance, Jiren seems standoffish, stoic, and perhaps unfriendly and selfish. Upon the revelation of his backstory, we learn that his master and family were killed by a villain that Jiren was powerless to stop. His master--the man who instilled within Jiren his passion for and love of martial arts and the cultivation of pure, inner strength--was taken from him by an evildoer, and in that moment Jiren realized two things. One: Caring about ANYTHING is meaningless without wielding the requisite might to protect it, and two: Living a life unfettered by close emotional ties serves to protect one from pain and minimizes distractions that seeks to deter one in their quest for personal growth.
In layman's terms: Jiren is heavily afflicted with PTSD. His trauma, while it doesn't fully control him, certainly plays a part in his overall nature and how he holds himself. He has formed a group of do-gooders with like-minded individuals, but he isn't close to any of them, nor is he close to any of those he saves beyond the usual "hero-victim" relationship. What appears to be a simple rude and standoffish character is eventually revealed to be yet another aspect of his complex and dual nature--Jiren WANTS to be free from the burden of the past, he WANTS to blindly place faith and trust in his friends and make that a part of his power as Goku does, but he can't. He simply cannot. And this is why he's so angered by the Saiyan's mere presence, as well as the reason behind his attack on the stands upon realizing he was losing their battle. Jiren wasn't lashing out at Goku's friends: he was lashing out at his own insecurities, trying to destroy his past demons in the only way he knows how--by brandishing the immense strength that was, ironically, cultivated as a result of those same demons.
Nice headcanon
God I hope so
>jobs to Frieza and Manletdroid 17
Man, even old villains brought back and dusted off for fanservice can beat Jiren. SAD.
Anime movies take like 3-4 years of production, we won't be seeing the new movie at least until 2022.
>Chicken's design
Bery gud mai jirenbrothar
>Head of the Dragon Ball Room acknowledges BASEDly's Power and Might that they have to shift plans for the next movie
[citation needed]
Fucking based.
BASED
>Jirenscholar posts a highly intellectual and advanced analysis of Jiren
>the anti-Jirenspics are so shaken by the complexity of it all that all they can do is post memes
>posts a 3v1 after he fought and outlasted an Angel tier technique
Discarded
DBS Broly's production.
>WEAKly
>might
Kek
Correct
Shitrenbros.... is it really over this time?
>a highly intellectual and advanced analysis of Jiren
I can do that too.
Can't dodge Goku
Can't dodge Vegeta
Can't dodge Freeza
Can't dodge 17
Can't hit Roshi
...
Cope.
>posting gay spic art
Fucking eloquently BASED. And then you have shitly that did nothing but be his father's dog and eat bug legs for 40 years.
>no citations
Epic
Oh god...
I'm toying with the idea of making an entire video on analyzing Jiren and his motivations/goals/etc. I could also do a separate one where I underscore why Broly fails as a compelling character.
Cope.
17 blocks and sidesteps a punch from SHITren...
WTH SHITRENBROS???
Do it and make a patreon
DOGREN HOW DARE YOU DEFY ME GO BACK TO YOUR KENNEL MY PRECIOUS FIDO
>Sandcrawler literally RTHing out of desperation
HA
>demanding to be fed everything
Stop being a baby, learn to use google faggot
>all they can do is spam pastas and reply with memes
Knowing Jobren, they will be begging for us to stop shortly.
Oh man...w-we're done for...I j-just peed myself...
>j-just peed myself
Quintessentially a JirenCHAD
>projecting
>N-No S-SHITren is tired...this can't be...
SHITren can oneshot everyone after they use all of their power...just give him time...
Dragon Ball was never good, you just liked it because you were 11.
Cope, manletfag.
>pixelation
Learn2paint
>In 3 or 4 years time Broly from the movie 20 will still be unsurpassed
>all the posters know each other
Why not just go back to discord DBChads?
Learn2perspective.
Ohoh you want me to post it again?
>Freeza 1v1 liquid SHITren
>SHITrendog sees 3v1
Done
Obsessing about boogeymen isn't knowing anything
CHADly
>gets his own movie, which is universally beloved
>hot green waifu
>fans discuss the interesting characters and great animation of CHADly's based movie
QUEERen
>considered the worst part of his overlong arc
>bald faggot, probably fucks Toppo
>fans reduced to spamming on Yea Forums in order to convince themselves they don't love a shit character
It's good to be a Brolyfag.
Cope.
The only 1v1 I saw against Frieza was this one
Literally as tall as Goku.
Cry
>Jiren
>5 KOs, same as MASTER ROSHI
>Everyone else in the Pride Troopers
>0 KOs
SAD
HOLY fucking based
Your astute analysis has earned itself a place in the hall of fame for Jiren pastas
>Being a necklet even when shopped
Pathetic.
>jobrendog literally contemplating suicide
KEK
Holy fuck HES HUGE
Will he slit his wrists, or jump off a bridge?
Not an argument
>taller than Manletdroid #17
>supposed to be impressive
Jirenfags, the masters of the self-own.
DELET
So DBS is going back to sHits and Jobrens because Broly's power was to extreme and it would break the narrative, humm understandable.
I always knew that Broly wouldn't get much action, I was always counting more on slice of life episodes.
Holy fuck HES GIGANTIC
>Injures Raditz
>Trains with Piccolo
>Fights Nappa
>Goes back to fight Vegeta
>Volunteers to go to Namek
>Fights Freeza soldiers
>Saves Dende from Dodoria
>Attacks Freeza in his second and third form
>Goes to fight Freeza when he hears he has gone to Earth with King Cold
>Trains to fight against the Androids
Sorry bros... I can't fight Cell... I'm a pacifist....
>broly is interesting
Nah, he's the type of guy who just lays there without moving while you pound him hard, he's like a dead fish.
Good characters don't overstay their welcome. Look what happened to Darth Vader when he kept coming back for sequels/prequels. But Broly'll definitely be back, Toriyama loves Cheelai and Lemo.
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There has never been a more physically imposing character. There has never been a more impossible to defeat antagonist. Jiren is the quintessential "immovable object". Nothing you throw at him fazes him. He could blink you out of the ring in an attosecond, but he doesn't. He fights defensively. He only uses the minimum amount of force necessary to beat you into submission.
This MOUNTAIN of a character centers around one aesthetic theme: "You can't beat me. You cannot beat me. You CAN NOT beat me." That's how he fights. That's why he beats people up without even looking at them. That's why he employs such a vast array of fighting moves to show that he's not simply stronger and faster, but more skilled too.
That trash got retconned the moment the 129 article came out, which hinted at Beerus himself STATING he MIGHT have finally been surpassed by UI Goku. It's funny you included it in your little collage too, despite the fact your reading comprehension.
Goku UI >= Beerus > LB Jiren >>> FP Jiren > Belmod
Cope.
>Why not just go back to discord DBChads?
Jobrenchode isn't brave enough to post his fanfics in a place where people can find who he is.
Now BrolyChads, we are everywhere.
Didn't know you were into that sort of thing, user.
I hope he has the noble and honorable personality he had in the movie and doesn't devolve into being literally Dogly
>In the air
Who the fuck do you think you are deceiving Jobrendog? You need higher IQ than your 80 points to trick us.
>Lemo=Toriyama
Prove me wrong.
PROTIP: you can't.
>Nothing you throw at him fazes him.
OH NONONONO PFFFHTT-AHAHAHAHA
>promotional magazine
>"retconning" anything
>when the very text that supposedly "retcons" itself got retconned when the actual episode came out
I'm just stating facts.
He is literally an inspiring character. If his physique doesn't motivate you to workout then you are a fucking faggot
>literally doesn't know how burden of proof works
You make a claim, you substantiate it or you automatically lose.
>in the air
>his left leg reaching the ground
Literally damaging control like a pro, keep it up
AESTHETICren
They can't do without the samefagging too since there is only two of them.
I'm sure he will. Would also be cool to have him in some fun filler episodes whenever the anime returns.
>>considered the worst part of his overlong arc
Holy fuck, this revisionism. The only people who say that are betacuck scrawny incels.
>Based and Jirenpil-
O sweet projection
He'll probably be portrayed as going along with what Cheelai wants, but he is a Saiyan after all, and does have his pride and strength. It'll be interesting to see him making his way without Paragus, who was the dominant figure in his life.
I really can't. That just makes too much sense.
At least you posted the beginning, a battered ff Cuckza who earlier only had planet level power.
Now go edit the webm and remove the beginning like a good pup and we'll also pretend you didn't see the video above with Freeza tanking and dismissing Jobren's attacks.
FUCKING KEK
He is not on the same level as Frieza and his body is clearly in the air. Like I said before, you are too dumb for this.
A well-wrought and detailed analysis of Jiren the Gray, the greatest and strongest character in the franchise.
>17 blockes a full power punch and then dances around SHITren...
>2v1 post MUI
NEXT
Jesus Christ Jirenfriends are smart
You should get paid for damage controlling this good
And then what happens?
>Pathetic.
Couldn't be bothered with JOBLY'S irises.
And you shouldn't get paid because you deceived no one with your lies shitrendog
>Brolyshits are literal faggots
Old news
Cope and cry
>gets BTFO
>H-H-HERE IS ANOTHER IMAGE LET ME TRY AGAIN WITH YOU PLEASE
Kek pathetic
DON'T TOUCH ME.
It's Dangalang ti...what the hell happened here?
I came for Jobren, but not even I would go so far...so deep...I didn't sign up for this....I'm out...good luck Jobren...
>m-muh magazine is better than Toriyama's outline!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>Based
Friezachads
Brolychads
Ginyubros
Gokumonkeys
>Cringe
Everyone else
Ohh I see you can't damage control anymore. Expected
Uh huh.
Isn't it, like, Goku?
???
based
...
Incredibly based.
Some Jirenfriend posted a nude edit of him while bragging about his dick size.
That nude edit is ancient you fucking newfag. Go back to watching gay nip edits of Jobly
Spopovich is Broly
Videl is Jobren
This is how these threads have being going for a while.
Doesn't matter when it was made, the guy posted it yesterday. That's pretty gay, user.
Reminder that Uub will fuck Gohan's daughter and Goku will be fine with it.
>he makes his fantasies on his sand covered head, as the only way to cope
Sad, take another Prozac
Nice projection little fag. Go watch some nip art and don't reply to me again, degenerate.
Look at this CHODElyfag projecting again. Those are just the characteristics of CHADren, you closeted Brolycamel.
Begone, camelfuckers!
You guys seem kinda touchy about this. Something you wanna talk about? Jiren would understand.
HAHAHA based
Jirenchads assemble
>touchy
Its common to hate faggots. Every sane person does.
>can't even do enter right
shitrenbros...
>toriyama's outline
literally confirms that Jiren is only stronger than his own GoD.Good try attempting to make a point though.
No way. The Pride Troopers would love and accept anyone, like the heroes they are.
Based
>And then what happens?
Nothing, chadroid17 takes a back seat and watches Freeza dominate Jobren for a while.
When he goes back in he pretty much destroys Jobren with his Chadbarrier.
>only
>this reading comprehension
Pure unadulterated headcanon. Discarded
ORE WA SUPA BEJITA-DA
If Beerus > Belmod, and Jiren > Belmod only, that could mean that Jiren is only about as tough as Beerus.
>If
Admitting Headcanon. Stopped reading there
B-bros.... /int/chads are bullying us again...
Concession accepted. Kneel before me.
Sand
>not a single Jobrentard on Egypt
Fucking based sandniggers!
>lizard is a gag character now
How anyone can say this isn't a good thing is beyond me. Some of the best Freeza moments on Namek were him being the butt of a joke, like reacting to a weird Ginyu dance sequence, or having his tail chomped by Goku.
Freeza is built for bullying.
>concession posting
Double lost
Quiet, pet. You've been trounced. Only victorious intellectuals are allowed to speak to me.
B-But muh headcanon says every fucking God...muh headcanon that SHITren is Stronger than XYZ...it can't be...
>dog posting
Triple lost
>jobs
Fucking. Cope.
What did I just say, my HOUND? You were defeated. You are a loser, and therefore, have no right to speak to me. Silence your muzzle and grovel as good and obedient pets must.
Based hard-evidence poster. Now wait for them to damage control, start spamming memes and magazines/twitter posting
i cope
Good Joblydog. If only your fellow retards were as tame as you
>three times
Does that mean Cabba gets to fuck Vegeta's daughter?
SILENCE, dog. I demand that you open your filthy muzzle and futilely attempt to defend your wounded pride. Insult me this instant, pet, or be cast aside to drown in a sea of repentance and woe forevermore.
Do it, DOG. NOW.
>said
>a fucking magazine
Discarded
>damage controlling
Right on cue.
I concede
>BEERUS, HOW DARE YOU DESTROY EARTH BEFORE BEJITA HAS KISSED MY WIFE! AAAARGH, I WILL NOT LET YOU DESTROY MY WOOOOOOOOOORLD
You really think calling everything damage control makes you win? Discarded for lack of arguments
Holy shit stop BTFO this Jobrenspic!
He's just a kid...let him post his lies and sources that are the same ones that debunks him everytime.
Jobren is never stated stronger than the gods, only stronger than Belmod, no one is stated stronger than Beerus other than Vegito and Broly, the anime and manga still try to play it as gag that the clown and the rat are stronger, but that's it.
Stop giving him (you)s.
>post proof
>NO NO NO DOESN'T COUNT LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU
You are DONE
>s-s-stop letting ALMIGHTYren BTFO you Copelydogs...p-please I can't take it
This.
This. It literally sais "than the GoDs" plural. Even if just Belmond, he is stronger than Shitrus. These cucks are on their last stand trying to deny reality now.
anyone got some 2-0's they want to share?
What the FUCK did you just say to your OMNIPOTENT, GODLIKE MASTER, you filthy canine?! Open thy slobbering muzzle and spew a litany of perverted jabs at my mother forthwith, lest you earn the FULLNESS of my GODLIKE WRATH.
Insult me, pet. THIS INSTANT.
>HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST HE KISS BULMA KAKAROTTO, MAKE HIM KISS YOUR WIFE INSTEAD!
I prostrate myself
So gt is getting a manga and we're getting another super movie? Alright
Based.
Based Goku
>No Bejita I can't, that honour is reserved for your lips only
Jirenchads dont know what depression is so here is what Joblyfags are going through each and every day.
>gt is getting a manga
What
would this make it 3-0?
Is this the Dragon Ball Super thread?
189009780
>Jobrencamel posting non canon muralshit
This homosexual said none of this is canon remember MangaChads?
Also strongest on U11, stronger than a God on the same level with Toppo kek
gt is getting a manga
kek. based.
GT IS CANON HAHAHA HOLY FUCK
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Sorry, Juan, Paco, and Carlos.
You will insult me THIS INSTANT, dog.
THIS. VERY. INSTANT.
If you do not, if you continue with your pathetic kneeling and coping, I will DESTROY you. I will DECIMATE you, and cast your fetid remains into a maelstrom of pain and suffering the likes of which your puny canid mind cannot hope to fathom. Your only--YOUR ONLY hope of avoiding this hellish fate is to immediately refer to me as a cuckold, a homosexual, a mongoloid, or some combination of the three.
DO IT, dog. You DO NOT want to test your master.
I kneel
You spend your time responding and lying to dozens of people on Yea Forums every day...WAKEY WAKEY RETARD
>even GT is more canon than Tracertaco
Tacopacohackotracercucko is literally a fanfiction artist
True, Toriyama has more involvement onGT than on the SHItnga
How do you know it's not a continuation of the "anime comic"? Cause there WAS a manga, but it wasn't called a manga. So that videos premise is wrong right off the bat
>Cause there WAS a manga
No there wasn't. Cope, spic.
HAVE YOU NO SHAME, DOG!? Do you continue to treat your master with respect and submission, even when he has COMMANDED you to post photoshopped pornography of his mother and a goat!?
RISE, dog. RISE from your pathetic kneeling position and make with the trolling forthwith. Difficult though it may be, you must take pride in even your stinking, canid self, and post many a copypasta about your master's predilections toward homosexual scat fetishism.
DO IT, you foul, rancid mutt.
I grovel at my superior master's feet
>Goku suffers constant tragedies that drive him to get swole and protect his world
>jiren and broly literally have no meaningful backstory other than THIS ONE BAD THING HAPPENED IN THEIR PAST BOOHOOHOO
>somehow Goku's dick didn't make theirs look like gaping vaginas even after they powered up
At this point jabroni and Jolie are just convenient plot devices, living brick walls devoid of real characterization whose only purpose is to challenge an mc who should at this point be rivaled by only divinity, his platonic life partner Vegeta and maybe some artificially created humanoid abominations whose powers were bestowed by magic and/or superscience.
Even krillin's multiple deaths were a better driving motivation to get ripped than a dead pet or teacher, which is why this whole racial superiority thing seems like a copout.
When a fat neckbeard from jiren's race could body all of the u7 team, it's really not so much that jiren's strong but rather that his race did all the work for him. And given that jiren's never shown doing anything close to the training from hell that u7 guys put themselves through, the irony is likely that jiren is probably a relatively normal member of his species who's not as relatively god-like as Goku is compared to other saiyans.
It's like how a member of Frieza's race curbstomping Goku wouldn't really an achievement given that a mere real estate agent gave a super Saiyan a run for his money. An actual mma tier member of Frieda's race probably has a power level so swole that fighting non-friezas would be as humiliatingly shameful as kicking babies and puppies.
The fact is that once you normalize power levels relative to race and apply a tiny bit of skepticism, jiren and broly would've unironically been the biggest jobbers of all time if they were given any other roles than goku's nigh indestructible punching bags.
>Toyotaro works closely with Toriyama through the whole manga
db-z.com
>Toyotaro is Toriyama's chosen successor
Kneel, Toeicucks.
Fuck you
>it's this debunked meaningless picture again
Did you not get tired of getting BTFO by my superior intellect in the last thread Toyopup?
Goku and Veggie are the true chads of the series, yes.
>Toyotaro's work is so bad he needs to be corrected
>Toriyama doesn't correct Toei and Toei doesn't even follow his script most of the time, they often contradict it to tell their own story
Sit down. Be humble.
>ignore the cucknga as much as possible
>Supervise and fix the CHADNIME ALWAYS
cope
Why thank you, dog. Please help yourself to a selection of my finest wines, as well as my wife's pussy.
As for you, you're getting a caning.
I won't let you cane my friend.
I cope and concede
kek based
>>Toyotaro's work is so bad he needs to be corrected
>>Toriyama doesn't correct Toei and Toei doesn't even follow his script most of the time, they often contradict it to tell their own story
BUT WAIT!
>Toriyama admits he has to correct Toyotaro less than Toei
Toeicucks doing my job for me.
Jiren was weak as fuck at birth and even after training under a master for a while he was still too weak. If he was part of some uber race or a super prodigy this wouldn't have been the case.
The truth is that Jiren trained harder than anyone. No gimmicks, no talent, no transformations, no asspulls, no god rituals, just pure self-discipline and cultivation of inner strength. That is how he broke the limits of mortal power. Undoubtedly the most admirable character in all of DB.
Excellent, excellent. Defy me even more, dog. Show your master what a weak, impotent cuckold he is, and you shall receive many a doggie treat.
Be grateful that your SUPERIOR mate has spared you a caning, you disgusting mutt. Return to your kennel AT ONCE.
>argue that Toriyama corrects the manga more than the Chadnime therefore manga canon
>literally doing a 180 this thread
W to the O to the W. I can't believe I waste my time on someone such as you
>Toyoshits fell silent after my onslaught
Easy
Jiren feels like a badly written Direct to Video/theater movie villain than something that actually belongs in the Dragonball universe. He feels more like Lord Slug or OG Broly than someone like Frieza or Cell or even Cooler.
Also the rebooted Broly proves theres no excuse for making DB villains boring anymore.
>people got tired of giving my redundant and predictable shitposts attention
>h-hehe that means I w-win
I see you either didn't read or can't comprehend the masterfully-crafted and intellectually astute analysis of GODren posted in this very thread.
>most admirable
Maybe, but if it weren't for the homosexuals in this thread constantly reminding me of Jiren, I'd have forgotten that he even exists.
Toriyama said he likes characters with no personality because that way he doesn't have to write anything about them, they are just strong guys
Yes, I win
Boring everyone with your shitposts isn't winning, spicanon.
Based.
Yes it is
Cope, dogpet.
Dub Kefla soon
>someone lays down the truth
>you don't fight back
>"t-that doesn't mean you win though!!"
Goku and veggie also trained hard as hell throughout their lives while also having gimmicks, talent, transformations, asspulls, and god rituals in addition to pure self-discipline and cultivation of inner strength.
If jiren really was a weaklet, the saiyans should be like giant NFL who lucked into based genes getting pitted against a scrawny yet hard-working manlet.
Even broly's superior genes and super Saiyan transformations shouldn't be able to compete with divine destroyer-tier strength folded over a thousand times and backed up by the honed senses of god-tier martial artists.
There's literally no excuse for having such shitty characters instead of bringing back and powering up old villains who're already established to be on a different power paradigm than training=stronk (i.e. hatchback and general dildo).
Cringe
...
Beerus
Kale is for anal sex only
I almost believe this, source anyway.
Yamamuro looks very handsome in a suit!
COPE.
it's not a spider leg but it shall suffice...
Quiet.
>Degeneratelyfags still at it
Fucking pathetic
Cope cope COPE my pet!!!
This is easy.
Jirenfags are homosexuals who want his dick.
Brolyfags are fujos who want to see him dick the male cast.
>toeikeks and toyotards arguing again
Being a moviechad is based. No shit animation from the anime and better pacing and drawings then the manga.
Voodoo and Shampoo
t.jobhantard jobrenturd cardposter panposter falseflagger samefag Seth's dog passfag ban evader mongrel
Silence, Toyocur.
Damage control to justify blatant faggotry
>he thinks im a toyotard
>not being a moviechad and getting good animation, drawings and pacing
Pathetic
No
Anal sex with Bulma!
Can Jiren or Broly defeat this guy?
t. obsessed toyposter
>didn't get CHADmasu
Silence, moviepet.
>used good
>hag
Vegeta is a lucky guy
Yes.
I liked the Buu arc. It had the mystical feeling back and an ancient evil planet busting genie makes more sense for it to be stronger than a Super Saiyan than some robot being built to be strong.
Where do I sign up?
Anal sex with Whis!
>Literally going back to square 1 because Broly is too fucking strong
HOLY BASED!
Reminder that this dude is the one responsible for convincing Toriyama into making Broly canon and also the editor of all the official material, that cleary states that GODly is the strongest EVER!
Also a reminder that CHADly-oku is the one who made all the non believers seethe by saying that GODly is the most popular DB character overseas!
Praise this enormous CHADlybro!
Fucking cringe
But that wasn't him being the butt of the joke that was just the contrast of the most powerful and evil person in the universe being oddly patient towards the silly antics of his subordinates, Freeza humoring the Ginyu squad is only funny because of his position. Goku biting his tail also isn't a particularly humiliating situation for Freeza because he still had the upper hand in the fight, the jokes more about Goku being this sorta undignified fighter who would do something like that and how spontaneous it was. Seems kinda wrong to bring a character like that back just to have him end up wishing to be taller, which really isn't in line with his personality and doesn't really make any sense considering his situation.
I know being too serious about this is really fucking gay, but just think about it, Freeza wished for immortality because it would've benefited him, that's the type of person he is, comfortable with his position and always willing to use whatever means necessary to cement his status as emperor of the galaxy, that's not the same type of person who would wish for a couple of centimeters. The most interesting thing about him in Super is the fact that he's not the most powerful character in the show right now, so there's potential for some good scenarios. Having him fight alongside the protagonists in a tournament is the right use of his character as it puts him in a unexpected and new situation that provides for a whole set of interesting character interactions. Collecting the Dragon Balls and wishing to be bigger is a really lazy and uninteresting thing to do, especially because it's inferior to Commander Red's wish, us not knowing that that was his wish until the very end just made the punch line that much more effective, he even acknowledges that he doesn't the Dragon Balls for world domination since he could just use the RR Army for that anyway.
This doesn't work with Freeza because wishing to be taller just makes him look like a buffoon who should have wished for anything else and ruins any possibility for him to be a main antagonist of his own arc in the future. He can't become an ally because he's too evil even for DB standards so eventually the situation needs to be resolved with him being dealt with one last time since his character can't go anywhere else, his personality is too flawed to abandon his desires to rule the universe. He also doesn't need to exist as a jobber because there's already other characters for that. If wishing for height is the best Toriyama can do with him right now then I'm seriously not looking forward to his plans for him, unless it involves Freeza having a son who could end up being his own interesting character and not Piccolo 3.0.
do it for him
sup i havent been here in awhile
is Super coming back or what
>Frieza eliminated Toppo the Homo in the manga
>Frieza eliminated Dyspo the Dyke in the manga and anime
>Frieza eliminated Jiren the Gay in the manga and anime
Our Lord Frieza OWNS the "Pride" Troppers!
Anime hasn't been confirmed aside from e-celeb rumors, but they are preparing to make another movie, and the manga is still ongoing.
>Freeza having a son
Are you forgetting Kuriza?
Fucking based
>preparing to make another movie
Nice!
Any info on it?
>we will never have the Frieza Force invade and take over U11
Suffering.
No.
LADS
Kuriza is a character in a gag manga series only vaguely connected to Dragon Ball. If they do give Freeza a son, it'll be someone disconnected from the one present in Neko Majin and Heroes.
You known it's another Broly movie, right?
Toriyama wrote that gag manga series and that was taken post EoZ and had Frieza alive which as of Super, he's now alive as well.
Kuriza is going to happen.
Nah it will be another Frieza movie.
BLUUUUURGH
god i wish i was bulma in this
how tall is zamasu? so handsome
It also had Vegeta obeying Freeza.
Hmm.
I wonder how Vegeta was feeling watching this
If Zamasu wasn't gay and responded to her flirting, would Bulma have gone all the way?
>Jobgeta still wears his slave uniform after all those years
He still serves the BASED LIZARD in his monkey heart.
Yes and?
His outfit there is the same outfit he wears as of Super. Lol everything fits perfectly. He still wears outfit based on the Frieza Force. Toriyama had all this planned to have his Neko Majin story happen.
Yes thats exactly what happened after Jiren. Literally back to SSB because UI and Jiren were too powerful. C O P E
Absolutely.
Supposedly it's going to feature "a villain connected to a previous villain, who may or may not see eye-to-eye with them now". It's a Cooler hint if you ask me
Nice fanfic
Just reporting on the vague information that's come out, retard
>announcing report
Enjoy your ban
Are you fucking braindead
>C O P E
For you my irrelevant friend!
Makes sense. They made a point of Frieza learning about fusion and seeing how powerful it is, and saying at the end how he needed an ally to take on vegy and gokuck.
My curiosity more so is how Jiren didn't seem to want to be the GoD over Toppo. Isn't his whole shtick how he cannot trust anyone and has to do the job himself? Wouldn't GoD be the position to help further this desire outside of being able to wish it?
BASED spic with no reading comprehension
Bulma probably talked Vegeta into finally getting a job and doing something since Goku is too busy with Uub. So Vegeta probably couldn't deal with the desk jobs at Capsule Corp and probably hated every other job he tried to apply for so only other job that he knew was being a soilder for Frieza so he probably phoned up Frieza against his will and probably by Bulma convincing him to call Frieza to see if he has any job hiring. Frieza probably laughed at him over the phone but still decided to take him back. Vegeta uses his job with Frieza as a way to keep an eye on him while Frieza uses Vegeta to do the things he's too lazy to do like babysit Kuriza or go and handle some planet selling business for Frieza.
I consider my bait as bit
Where's the source on this?
But what is his tax policy?
>merely pretending
Shoot yourself.
The problem with measuring Broly is Gogeta didn't even try in Blue to rip his ass apart. And Jiren could beat blues without trying well Broly probably spent alittle effort but they got wrecked by him as well. If Broly actually hurt Gogeta and wasn't just played with it would maybe be easier but otherwise its hard to call.
Not like it matters Broly was shit fan service movie that did nothing great besides spawn a new bad form of waifu faggy for underaged girl bodies. Jiren is atleast a chad that spawned my favorite DBFZ moveset for what little that is worth.
Dragon Ball threads are the cancer that is killing Yea Forums why aren't they banned like Naruto threads were back then? These fucking threads are even worse than Naruto threads.
Based Zamazu
FUCK NINGEN THOTS
Goku/Vegeta vs. Frieza/Cooler would be dope as hell.
But if they keep Frieza and Cooler's rivalry intact, idk how they'll work this out.
Hey, UCB, you're back for more! Gotta get that womanly complaining in somehow, amirite?
times change
Absolutely unreasonable. Planet brokers hate Frieza but are too scared to call him out on his horrendous tax policy.
>Interesting
No. Besides Paragus's raising scenes that were chocked full of fatherly this is fucked as fuck son so I need to give you some tough love to survive this garbage nothing about Broly was good. They literally just revamped movie 1 with even less characters some crap comedy and made Broly a good guy at the end in case they ever have to use him again.
His ass
ENTER ULTRA PLATINUM CELL FOR THE NEXT MOVIE
Why the fuck did Gogeta let Frieza escape? He was trying to murder Broly in cold blood seconds ago even though he was having fun, so Gogeta wasn't here to play around.
But then he decides to spare Frieza, the guy who has killed everyone he knows at least once and came to Earth to murder them again and actually gets shown conquering planets a few minutes later.
Gogeta let that all happen just because, it's a plot hole. Gogeta should know he only lasts 30 minutes fused, it's not like he can go WAKU WAKU and wait for Frieza to get stronger for a good fight (and he should know it's impossible for Frieza to catch up to him). He acted like Goku but he isn't Goku.
Cope
This should have happened in DB GT instead of Super 17, it looks so cool.
Manga Jiren wouldn't want to do so because he believes in justice and doesn't want to see anyone die. He didnt even want to join the TOP because winning meant erasing other universes. Justice and GoD arent really compatible, hence Toppo "giving up on it" in the anime.
Anime Jiren, who the fuck knows, he had no real beliefs beyond strength. Maybe he just saw no use for the role, he is Angel tier without it anyway.
Because Frieza is a weak cuck and Gogeta could've easily one shot him, while Broly was an active danger that needed to be removed due to his crazy zenkai mutation
i want to watch the movie again
where can i watch the movie without illegally downloading it
Because he'll only go after Freeza if he tries to do anything bad to him or his friends or his friends' friends. Vegetto and Gogeta are still part-Goku.
Good to see lizards finally learned thier place in the universe.
The goku half stopped the vegeta half because Fureezer was their pal now and could give them some amazin' and excitin' fightin'
>SHITren is Angel tier
Amazon Prime.
who is that saiyan supposed to be?
W-WAIT FRIEZA-SAMA DON'T DO IT! NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-
ENTER CHADHAN, WHO BEATS PLATINUM CELL IN THE NEXT MOVIE
I mean coming to Earth and throwing Broly at them kinda counts in my book, but I think Gogeta decided to let it in Goku & Vegeta's hands. Like he was aware this isn't his problem.
Anime Jiren was probably the same as manga Jiren until that weird transition when Toppo lost and he called them all pathetic and went full talking down to everyone might is right tier.
>Episode before he asks Goku why hes acquiring strength and what his end goal is
>Episode later STRENGTH IS ALL STRENGTH IS EVERYTHING MIGHT RIGHT
He went from using strength as a metaphor/tool to achieve something greater to the strength itself being the goal and nothing being greater then it. Whoever switched the writing for Jiren within the span of 1-2 episodes is weird af.
Mad people called you out on your lie Coolerfag?
Why would Goku be mad at freezy pop for bringing him a really strong guy to get beat up by? For Goku it was like chrismas present
Cope.
I enjoyed Super 17 more then any dumb recolored Cell shit could've been. Not his fights and stuff just the concept of a 19/20 model that was more based off the electronic/machine parts then just being a collection of existing powers.
It would've been pretty rad if the 20x kamehawave overloaded him and he blew up into chunks. That part made little sense because it seemed like that was what Goku was thinking of doing but then ended the beam short.
hmm, vegito has goku's hair and eyes, while gogeta has vegeta's hair and eyes
Frieza could whoop Goku and Vegeta's ass one on one.
>Whoever switched the writing for Jiren within the span of 1-2 episodes
The ToP was written with rotating writers from episode to episode and word on the net is they did not communicate very well. It's also why 18's attitude towards Krillin is so different from episode 99 to episode 100 (those numbers may be slightly off).
Because Frieza is Goku's pal now which makes him Gogeta's pal. It's like you retards didn't watch ToP.
Frieza gave Goku a strong opponent. He helped Goku more than antagonized him.
Then there's Frieza being able to just blow the planet up from afar. And don't they hate him for annihilating the namekians back then? And the saiyan race? Frieza is out there doing that.
Pure kino seeing vegeta get BTFO by /ouremperor/
SHITnime isn't canon anyways, just read Toyotaros CANON manga.
>gets killed again
Jobgeta just can't win against Frieza...
Frieza still lives in Jobgeta's head rent free as the Broly movie showed
What am I supposed to do with it
What do you guys think the villain of the next movie will be? Will CHADnemba finally be canon?
Learn to discern bait next time, newfag
BASED
Because Frieza is Goku's pal now and he doesn't care what he does as long as he doesn't blow up Earth.
And Goku doesn't give a shit about the Saiyans.
vegeta is a cuck because bulma rubbed her finger on zamasu's chest to distract him (a call back to DB)? the mental gymnastics antivegeta fags go through is astounding.
i love fusion
Maybe it's my headcanon, but it really seems like vegetto is vegeta dominant with a little of goku's goofy personality sprinkled in, while gogeta is the inverse. Goku dominant with vegeta's prideful/arrogant personality sprinkled in.
Seeing Vegeta get BTFO by Frieza isn't anything new though.
>Jobgetabros going on Super Saiyan damage control mode
S-SHUT UP IT'S 1-1! W-WHIS REVERSED TIME AFTER BEJITA-SAMA FUCKING DIED S-SO IT DOESN'T COUNT!
Yeah. Zamasu thrusting his cock inside Bulma is also part of Bulma's plan to distract him.
I wonder how good of a babysitter Vegeta will be once Frieza orders him to take care of Kuriza.
Pretty much this, intention counts. What you think Bulma was gonna do if Zamasu took off his pants revealing his might green, twitching cock?
She was stalling for time trying to seduce the Green God, and no doubt she was gonna accept his penis inside her VAGINA oh god I'm touching myself brb
Lizardflags are one of the most delusional posters in these threads, only surpassed by Brolycamels. They'll go back into hiding now that they can't falseflag as a CHADgetabro
imagine being this much of a doormat
>Kuriza: Ok monkey I want you to help me build this toy. Immediately or I'll rat you out to my papa
>Vegeta: A-ANYTHING BUT HIM. Y-YOUR WISH IS MY DESIRE K-KURIZA-SAMA
WEAKren the PATHETIC
Freeza also killed Buu...that wasn't supposed to happen...
Congo
Broly
>gets eliminated by Frieza in the manga
>0 eliminations
Jobbo is even more pathetic than Jobgeta.
I didn't know Vegeta was into /diapers/
i cant believe how cucked Jiren is in dragon ball heroes
good thing is a piece of shit garbage that doesnt matter
This is the scene Brappofags want you to forget, CHADza coming right back from that beating and in the fight again.
I'm pretty sure if Zamasu didn't turn her down and was actually down to accept her advances, she'd be ok to fuck him if it stalls him and buys the others' time
Jiren is literally equal to Goku Blanco in the manga, and they even briefly overpower each other in the anime.
Yet DB Heroes treats Goku Blanco as some kind of invincible god to save the day.
Mexico
Gohan
>i cant believe how cucked Jiren is in dragon ball heroes
What the fuck are you talking about. He is literally the only character besides the main villain that didn't get his ass handed to him.
CRY
>youtube bar visible
never post again, trash
Ethiopia
Jiren
Here's your SSBE.
Never winning another fight with it.
>gets up a second later to trap him in his psychic hold
>while in base
Based emperor
Togo
Broly
COPE MY PRECIOUS PET
Angola
Broly
>i cant believe how cucked Jiren is in dragon ball heroes
lol
He enjoys her feistiness, canonically.
>manga
HAHAHAHAHAHA, NON-CANON FILLER TRASH
>Not even stronger than base CHADly
Yikes...we need to go back, also Erren Van Duine would like that.
The lizard is a LITERAL GAG CHARACTER
The strongest.
Is there anything GRIPren cannot grip
>next villain is supposedly someone from the past
>freeza is looking for someone to fight with because he now knows about fusion
Obviously Cooler
>Is there anything GRIPren cannot grip
Yep, they want to dial it back to that level because Broly is too strong.
Is Broly.
what would a freeza cooler fusion look like?
>>Is there anything GRIPren cannot grip
KEK
based
Holy fuck, why are Lizardfags so pathetic? When someone posts an image of KEKza jobbing in the anime, they'll resort to manga posting. When they Job to Kekfla in the manga, they'll go back to posting his pathetic "feats" in the anime. There really is no winning if you're a Lizardcuck.
Dude it already exists
dragonball.fandom.com
Considering Emperor Frieza won the tournament for his universe while your fat muppet jobber got VEG'd without a single KO...
That's actually a lot of winning
>Toppo lost to the dude that Frieza 2-0'd
Pathetic.
Based lizardchads, NOBODY talks down to them!
>gohan is shit
Still seething after all this time huh?
Absolutely nothing
>I'M THE EMPEROR OF THE UNIV-GUAARGGGH
Because Broly is stronger, dummy
Did anyone make a fusion between Super 13 and Super 17?
STOP THIS AT ONCE I'M THE EMPERWUAAAARGHH
NOOO STOP STOP YOU'RE HURTING ME! YOU'RE HURTING MEEEEE!
Why are monkey posters so uncouth and, coming right down to to it, JEALOUS?
WAIT FRIEZA SAMA NO
I'm actually shocked they haven't done anything with Cell, when both Frieza and now Buu are getting asspats.
>now Buu
wat
Read the manga.
Cell got a cameo in a side chapter no-one cares about via the Cell Jrs
What does Kale pusy taste like?
ok i did
You know I meant 'anything good.'
>No mention of Chad Goat in this thread
>L-LET ME GO JIREN! I DON'T EVEN WANNA FIGHT ANYMORE, YOU WON STO-- AGUUUUGHHHGH
When will they learn?
And thats a good thing. Get out
>AGGGGGH NOOOOOOOOO I WANT TO BE A SUPER SAIYAN AS WELL!!!!!!!!!
Stop mocking him. That must have been a shitty situation to be in
This is technically a win for Vegeta
KEK
>LICK IT GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD BOY
>Omen
Hell that isn't even supposed to be Omen. That was the retarded Limit breaker headcanon. Thats how OUTDATED that garbage is. Step it up
What did the grey gay alien say?
>step it up against an irrelevant shitter
>reached his peak and his a staminalet
>while saiyans have no limits
Cope
>im just pretending
>irrelevant
>Currently airing in two (2 (TWO(2))) mediums at once
CRY
He said "sleep"
it literally doesn't. are you retarded?
89017515
>Saiyan girls arc
>trapped inside a kennel
Based retard
How was there so much fetish fuel during the Buu saga?
Freeza is cute. CUTE!
>Bulma, your balls. They're gone!