How is that progress coming along Yea Forums?
How is that progress coming along Yea Forums?
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Leave me alone. I know I can't learn anything. You won. Being born stupid is probably one of the biggest liabilities possible, you don't even get free money.
It's not going well but I refuse to give up. I think I need to either give up on Anki and just focus on Tae Kim or find a new way to learn the Kanji that goes into their components a bit. I tried RTK but I want to know how to say them too, not just know the meaning.
I've made some progress, but still have a long way to go.
I will learn Japanese no matter what it takes, because my waifu's source material needs a translation and it is going to get one by my hand.
I got to the level where I can read manga with furigana and now I don't feel like studying at all anymore.
Their cashgrab game is delayed again so I still have time.
>Took up anki after winter finals
>Blazed through ~600 cards, felt productive as fuck
>Haven't touched it since March
I've been learning on and off since about 2016, had breaks as long as few months but I always came back. Still 390 short of 6k tho lmao. Don't be me user, don't let yourself regret the mistakes of the past and fucking do it. In 3 years you will regret not sticking with it.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Thanks user, I needed that. I just need to wrap up the summer terms and I'll have all the time in the world to make some good progress. We're gonna make it
Reading Yotsuba&! 1-2 hours while mining 10 new words every day. Felt confident enough to start reading something without furigana but it took me more 2 hours to get through the first chapter of Yuru Camp so I picked up Hidamari Sketch instead. I'm doing it lads.
883 kanji so far
このスレ、削除して。
>be close to 2k
>forget about doing the cards for a week
>since then, half a year has passed and I'm too scared of starting again
>Counting your "done" Kanji
Not gonna make it
Yeah, fuck you too!
Don't be a pussy. I did about 3000 reviews a few times, they piled up after a week or two. Though if you had such a long break, I'd just start again by adding 100 new cards a day and seeing where you stop doing them like reviews. Been there, done that too.
F-fuck off
anki won't teach you japanese, just read
I think the main issue with my reviews is that they take way too long. I remember Anki showing an average of 22 seconds per card for me, and I didn't know how to be quicker. Reading the word, writing down the Kanji if I have trouble with it, and re-reading the example sentence just takes that long.
read hanabira*
エノンくんはホモとしては大なホモ
Japanese is the devil tongue. It is evil.
Bretty good desu
No, no no no please. I'm sorry. I can't do anything, the brain fog is just too much, dekinai-chan....
>エノン
>大な
出来ない
I have trouble reading through the grammar guides by myself. Might just have to wait until after summer break as I always retain better stuff I learn in class. I know a tons of words though, so I suppose I'm part way there.
user i have no clue on, 大きい i retarded on.
頑張って
Why the hell did gookmoot ban non-Japanese IPs from even VIEWING 2channel now?
できるですよ
waito piggu go homu
Up to 4k burned cards in WaniKani, about 3k of them are vocabulary.
I'm playing the Madoka PSP game in Japanese right now and it's not too strenuous, there's still a lot I don't understand, but if I'm lazy and don't feel like looking something up I can still usually get the gist of what's being said.
>everyone is banned
>there's a special /ran/ board where only dutch IPs are allowed to visit
I hear that people on 5chan/2channel are cunts anyways, and that all the fun people are on 2chan.
>Learning Japanese
>Learning to draw
One lets you read your un translated hentai, the other let's you create your own hentai
no matter how much I listen listening doesn't become easier
The real redpill about learning Japanese is that people learning Japanese aren't learning Japanese because they want to understand Japanese. It's about the journey, not the destination. It's something you have to do every single day for years. It's good for your mental health. It's like that Jordan Peterson shit. Same as you have to clean your room and make your bed, you have to do your anki reps.
Been on that same path for 10 years.
Still an absolute beginner in both.
Funny, I say something similar when people ask why I keep drawing
Don't give up!
Same here, user. I still need time to process what they're saying but it's all just so fast. Having Japanese subs is helpful but they're not always gonna be there. Why live
>learned english by myself at a very young age
>laze around until I'm 26 and decide to pick up a third language
>feeling confident, pick japanese
>ohfuck.jpg
>It's okay user! If you learned english you can learn anything :)
Other than that... I'm doing okay, i guess. Despite being bilingual learning japanese is pretty hard, but at least not as hard as a monolingual would have it. I think the hardest part is just memorizing kanji.
It's an absolute crackdream but i would love to be able to draw like a mangaka. I would love to get into the mind of one and learn their training routine; maybe after i learn some good japanese i can actually go around asking real japanese people for advice.
I assume VN are good for that sort of practice considering they have text alongside the dialogue and usually give you a way to repeat lines so you can give it a few goes before checking if you heard it right using the text.
I only go for kanji, don't read sentences unless I don't understand the usage of new word. There's reading for that.
I learned hirigana and katakana in a day and haven't learned anything since. That was 3 years ago.
In 3 years you will be saying the same thing, but replace 3 years ago with 6.
>havent touched anki in nearly two weeks
I was just taking a day off what happened?
Coming up on fifth semester of college Japanese, have almost 1000 kanji under my belt. My Anki habits are pretty piss-poor though, and I've heard they're no longer part of the curriculum when you start hitting advanced shit. Any recommendations on study habits in one's free time?
Is learning to write kanji a waste of time?
>Got N2 one year after starting to learn japanese
Finnaly something where my autism comes in handy.
My reading and writing are slow in progress, but my main goal was just casual conversation, which is going fine. As long as I can communicate with the front offices of soaplands and directly with the girls, I'm good.
no djt can't do shit
No. Don't let lazy illiterate people tell you otherwise.
I’ve practiced all the radicals so Kanji’s are a bit easier to write. I’m on the second Genki book and around 5% of the aniki core deck. I’ve switched my phone to Japanese but words come in and out of my consciousness. Right now, I need to start collecting audio sources with transcripts so I can practice listening and shadow speaking when I’m done with the grammar book.
It's actually going pretty well.
I don't really understand all the talk about numbers of Cards and Kanji. What does that actually mean?
It depends if you are using RTK then it is worth it becasue it helps your memory. Other methods might not need it
don't let those pile up scare you. you could do 0 new cards and do 30 reviews a day which takes about 5 minutes until you catch up or get motivated.
Pretty good. I went through the Core2k, and I am about half way through tae kim, and RTK. Sentance mining is going good, I am understanding more by the day.
Any lurkers taken N5, If so what was the registration process like? I want to try for 2020 so any beforehand advice would be great.
>been reading through the grammar guide for almost 6 months now
>got more than halfway through it
>keep rereading older lessons since I keep forgetting them
I tried reading the Yotsuba starter pack and got halfway through volume 1 in an afternoon while understanding most of it. I've been procastinating for quite a while since I've been busy with college, but I think I'm decently satisfied with my results for now. I'll try reading a VN with a text hookup soon since summer is coming up and I'll have more free time. Any recomendations for EOP friendly VN?
Really badly. I should be reading everyday but I just can't stick with it. I haven't opened anki in like a month again
have you ever considered games to play? animal crossing and pokemon are great for starters.
Is Anki really worth it? I've been avoiding it since I want to get through the grammar guides first and I'd rather read than force myself to use Anki.
Finished core6k, now wondering whether to steam ahead with 10k or just mine it naturally.
IMO it's the best F2P tool.
Is pokemon really worth it? Don't they use kana for everything? Can't imagine that being helpful
Go watch CureDolly's videos even though she's scary and just start reading shit.
Pick the LN of an anime you like and start.
im a anki droid whos been doing it half assedly for like 5 years. rtk done, 20k+ vocab. weekly italki free speaking lessons with writing prompts. too much passive learning weeb shit. slice of life is the easiest genre to understand. super otaku visual novels usually kick my ass for the first few chapters before i adopt to the author's writing style and choice of words
DONT JUST DO ANKI. YOU NEED TO ACTIVELY STUDY TO LEARN. DONT HALF ASS LIKE I HAVE
later iterations of pokemon allows you to switch languages. japanese option you can choose hiragana/katakana, furigana, or kanji
くりすです。
What progress?
I have been reading Nisio's stuff for almost 7 years now and occasionally read some porn light novels and some manga. I've read Katsu! and Mix in Japanese recently and it was great.
I still having hard time memorizing rarely used kanji being thrown away in Nisio's and Mori's books but I'll get to it eventually.
how late? I started Omega Ruby in Japanese but it's all Kana, can I switch it to Kanji?
ah thats good, which earliest game has this option?
I don't know which started it. i only played one on the 3ds
Why the fuck the grammar guides gotta write in the most verbose language possible. I read the genki and tae kim sections on using verb phrases as adjectives and couldn't understand them at all, but then my sensei explains it in a few sentences and I instantly understood it. Is it really just academics being fags and they are writing not as a teacher, but as an academic explaining the mechanism of some grammar? It's such faggotry.
I learned this shit in school you disgusting westerner dog.
how good are you at speaking? or are you mainly just a reader?
I know that it's a useful tool, but English is not my mother language and I learned most of it by just consuming media. I'll maybe use it from time to time to review stuff but I don't understand how so many people can stick with it.
>tae kim
>academic
Dude literally thinks the grammatical subject doesn't exist, he's just an idiot.
I know on black and white 2 it lets you switch to kanji. Some words are still in kana, but there is a kanji option. The first bit was only in kana but the option came up when talking to the professor.
probably because they expect you to understand how verb phrases acting as adjectives work in english and that you are smart enough to make the inference to how they therefore work in japanese.
sorry that you don't even understand your first language
kim has 2 grammar guides, one of them is written in a simpler matter
>weekly italki free speaking lessons
Wait, you get 1 free lesson a week? How?
>Any recomendations for EOP friendly VN?
Try djt recommendations they're quite good.
Have you tried Wanikani? It builds up from radicals to kanji and only shows you new words once you know how to say the kanji in them. Often I'm shown a new word and I know what it means and how to say it. I wouldn't learn Japanese any other way. There's an Anki deck for it, if you don't want to use the paid site.
Got 2k core already but I'm too lazy to start mining. That shit takes forever.
I am not all fluent in speaking since there is no one to talk to besides my friend who actually studied in Japan few years ago. I can speak the language with mostly correct intonation but might stuttered here and there when I couldn't find the right words to be use. So yes, I am mainly just a reader, as I can't write kanji for shit.
And the first few levels of Wanikani are free to try to see if it suits you (and then get the Anki deck). The order of the Anki deck available is a bit out of order so I made a version where I went through and reordered everything.
My uni curriculum requires 3 courses of a foreign language and I took Japanese. It's been one of the most rewarding things I've learned at college. My last semester of it is in the fall but I'm gonna try to keep progressing so I'm not clueless when I travel to the great Nihon one day.
>what the fuck why haven't you thoroughly studied the academic terms for the grammar of your own language!?
Sorry didn't know I had to have a degree in English in order to learn Japanese.
She's right
I can't learn Japanese
Never, ever pay for wanikani. It's a rip-off. If you want to spend money on that sort of thing buy RTK or KKLC for $20.
>I don't understand how so many people can stick with it.
I stick with it because it seems to be the only way I've ended up remembering any vocab. I doubt I'd have even got past 1k words without it.
Like I said, not paying for it, no way. Anki deck everytime.
where is higurashi on this scale?
i wouldn't call it a rip off if it provides a different way of learning and it works for some people. it would be nice if there was an offline version of it. not sure how much the same is the anki version of it.
Sorry, I phrased that poorly. The lessons are "Free speaking" lessons in which there's an emphasis on talking and conversation, or carrying on a conversation, amongst other things.
They cost money.
私は上達しつつある。Or so I'd hope - reading my second vn now and it takes a long time to parse more convoluted sentences. But I'm doing way better than with my first one, so progress is palpable. After many failed attempts, I got through the initial stage by limiting myself to 4 weeks of prep before picking up my first vn. Read TK's guide once, did the entire VN Core, and read RTK twice. Read, not crammed or srs'd.
It just seems way more efficient to start reading asap. Learn basic grammar, some vocab (~1k words), maybe take a glance at RTK (it helped me a fair bit). And just start reading and learning as you go.
been at it for almost 2 years, fun as fuck but still have some trouble memorizing vocab, how do you even use anki? I downloaded the minna no nihongo deck and didn't really understood how to use it after trying for like 2 months
Can't say for sure since I don't know much about hanachirasu but from what I've seen from the screencaps on vndb I'd say a little easier than Dias Irae or even the same difficulty.
Remember, the problem is not on language being too hard, the problem is on you
You couldn't learn any life skills
You couldn't become someone
You can't do anything
You can't learn japanese
I was learning for about a month with Pimsleur, every day I would for 30 minutes do the audio lessons, I finished the first module. Finally decided to try to learn to read, "Learned" all the hiraganas, but can only recall about 30 of them perfectly, still reviewing them everyday. Probably will take this week to learn katakana, and after that I'm not sure how I'll learn Kanji.
>but might stuttered here and there when I couldn't find the right words to be use
You are still at a phase where you are mentally translating from your native language to Japanese before speaking. It's frustrating but practice makes the master.
Pretty good, I read a VN for 8 hours today.
>They cost money
Yup, not happening then. Trying to save all my money so I can backpack through Japan for 6 months (or 1 year if extended).
30 million Yen, ffs.
>too dumb to make it work with a guide
not gonna make it anyway
>30 million Yen
>277,590.00 USD
i think you can afford a lesson or two lol.
but even so, please do some lessons at least so you have at least some sort of conversational base to start from if you plan to acquire the language through interaction.
start using flash cards ya dingus, it takes a single afternoon to learn both kana
But do you really true learn the kana that way? I asked a friend who's more advanced and he said it wasn't worth to use flash card for those. He told me to write them a lot until I got all of them memorized, which is what I did for hiragana, I basically wrote 5 pages on paper using only my memory until I got all of them right.
You learn kana by reading.
You learn kanji by reading.
You learn vocabulary by ... Wait for it... Reading.
writing is the best way to memorize writing them, flash cards is the best way to memorize reading them
you don't need to learn how to write
Definitely go through the grammar guides first, maybe even a textbook.
You shouldn't even think about Anki for the first few months of learning.
What should I do after learning kana?
What the fuck does 一つ違いの従妹 mean.
Only different cousin? Or a phrase like "the one and only cousin"
I may be a useless nobody but I've got all the time in the world and some books I want to read. You cannot stop me Dekinai-chan, I will do this even if it takes me years.
I don't have a single reaction image to show my determination, that's pretty depressing now that I think about it.
genki/elementary japanese/core 2000/RTK
just post an angry anime girl holding a gun
>I don't have a single reaction image to show my determination, that's pretty depressing now that I think about it.
Oh, but user I want to learn to write so I can do it on bathroom stalls, like some really filthy shit that like 1% of the people that go there would understand.
>pulling a huge extra effort to shitpost irl
I mean, if it makes you happy
do you have more context? could just mean within a year of age
I think that can mean one year of difference in ages, since it's 妹 it would be a year younger female cousin.
Wait a year and then learn kana again
Not really. It's a situation where I couldn't find the right words when talking about specialized stuff. 専門用語 to be frank. I have no problem talking casually in standard communication Japanese and I can actually understand some slangs and dialects.
I talked to some Japanese acquaintance for the first time in 8 months. He was wondering if I'm using a translator as my Japanese was too natural.
Pretty shitty praise but still.
When the teacher ""explains"" it in a few sentences and you instantly ""understand"" it, you're actually making countless misunderstandings. Japanese is very different from English, and whenever you think "oh yeah this is simple you just do this", you're wrong.
Of course, it's not hard to correct those misunderstandings later, just like how in school you first learn that you can't take square roots of negative numbers or literally anything concerning physics.
But if you weren't a brainlet you'd be able to understand basic linguistic shit like genki and tae fucking kim with no problem.