What does /a find in this shit franchise?

The joke is he thought it was Rin but the more likely culprit would be Saber. Haha Shirou you baka

>he's low-key calling Tohsaka fat
Shirou is just too high IQ for you, user. I don't doubt you'd eat a loaf of bread in the middle of the night.

>/a

He didn't think it was Rin. He was intentionally trolling her. They removed this monologue in the anime so he just comes off as some oblivious idiot.

>read the vpn where you have to read the fate route
no thanks

Anime is a shitty medium for internal monologues. Is there one which actually manages to incorporate them well?

Shirou doesn't emote enough in the anime and so his snide remarks he swings pathetically at Rin (who is the master at being a troll) all seem to be him being stupid.

>still trollbaiting
You aren't even hiding it anymore. Pathetic. Lazy even.

Pasta but I'll take a bite
>clones with actual personalities
>shinsengumi episode
>shinsengumi episode's shitty OC
>man jew slime and the tits variation
>tits variation whose only notable achievement is making everyone else hate her
>chichiue the character
>the literal antithesis of Jeanne d'Arc and her (you) sexual edgy OC
>3 complete jokes pertaining to the clone cavalcade
>two men, but one is her with pigtails and one who's so utterly bland that every other servant in his grail war overshadowed him

porn

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Look Episode 24 Shiro is BadAss

Shiro is Not Kirito You Idiot

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Reminder to ignore all anti-shirou autists. Those that are too lazy to read (or too stupid to install) the VN should be left alone to wallow in their own ignorance. You will never change their minds.

>People only like FSN for Heaven’s Feel.

Why did UBW get so much hate on Yea Forums?

Are you talking about the show or the route?

UBW only gets hate because HF movies are the new hotness for secondaries. Anime does get some shit for the final battles being depicted as more even than they actually are and suffering from Shirou's lack of internal monologue but they're still solid.

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UBW is Most Popular Route Entire Fate Stay Night Series Lot of Battle Scene , BadAss Shiro,
All Hero Have BadAss Moment, Great Stroy Line

You're forgetting the huge amount of secondaries that started with Zero and shat on everything that wasn't Zero.

Fate Route is some kind of Prologue
and Heaven's Feel is So Dark So Cruel
and in Early part Many Hero is die Early (Especially Male Servant) Shiro is Focking Badass in Heaven's Feel ... But Shiro Trash His ideal of Kirithgu

Jesus fucking Christ, stop posting

>ESLing this hard
What did he mean by this?

It has mythical/historical people turned into THOTs, why wouldn't it be popular?

...

It Mean Shiro is Growing Hero with his Ideal
Not unrealistic Hero Like isekai Anime
Shiro is very complicated Protagonist
He is Not Saitama or Kirito

UBW gets hate cause it was a shit adaptation that entered J-pop into an important match and Miura didn’t bother expanding on Rin x Shirou despite being able to.

Emiya Gohan is cute and comfy

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The Last Stardust scene is fine on its own, the problem is that Miura dragged the fight for another half episode and also he completely missed the point of the fight

Based TAa for drawing a chapter with only best Master-Servant duo.

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Best girls.

>>Somehow the biggest jobber in a series that contains Gilgamesh
Holy trips of death

I really like TAa's coloring style. It looks so soft.

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Same. She has a cute style and she always dresses the girls so nice.

I wouldn't identify with any fandoms, but participation in Fate threads on Yea Forums is like a comparable time investment. I don't know, it's such a strange mixture of fantastic and dogshit (and probably more importantly, familiar) that discussing it is a good time.

Nice, they’re making up for what they pulled in the first pool chapter.

Is this ever gonna be printed in english?

He's even more autistic in the VN you mong.

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I meant Emiya gohan

OG Fate threads are the fucking bomb. Even if they repeat themselves endlessly, it's fun to argue the same shit but bring it up in different contrived ways each time. They have their own individual memes now, unique to the basically memeless nu-Yea Forums we have. Fate threads on Yea Forums always feel comfy and warm.

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>cute and funny
wait so is that what cunny means or am i missing something?

What about powerlevel discussion ?

Hasn't that pretty much moved to /vg/ nowadays what with all the new FGO servants?

People still discuss actuar powerlevels and shit, specially for the older works.

Hell, just yesterday we had a thread discussing the applications of UBW, Beasts and the possibility of Types in the next phase of FGO

>playing
VN are not videogames dumbfuck

I bet you think they're like books

He's just a dumb teenager at the moment. Refer to older Shirou for a better impression.

Yeah but older shirou is a nigger

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A washed out janitor that hates himself?

Yes, but also smarter and more competent than his younger self. Also fuck you don't talk shit about my wife

Lurk more before posting , fate is a classic of Yea Forums

He's still the same chuuni motherfucker he was 10 years ago, just because he acts cooler doesn't mean that he's not a dork.

Nigger outside of the actual autists most people who like fate admit it's fucking stupid.

Also yes Shirou is dumb. He's a fundamentally broken person. That's basically the entire fucking point of the original VN.

Holy shit Shirou is so fucking based

The more inportant question is why are so many people so focused on the contents of the anime adaptations. To anyone who's read the VN they should come as a neat eyecandy at best, else being contentless as they can never even begin to replicate the format they're adapting.

It's not that he's dumb, it's that he's fucking crazy.

>le genderbend meme
Literally less than 10% of all servants across all TM works, with only the smaller fraction of those that are seiba clones being popular, are genderbent

In part because of the nature of the work. The original was a VN where the PoV character, Shirou, spent a great deal of time introspective. As a reader you understood his thought process, and why he did the things he does.

An anime just doesn't allow for the sheer level of internal monologing that a VN does. Adaptations of VNs, and LNs for that matter, are always going to have this problem. Likewise VNs and LNs can't make scenes come 'alive' in the same way animation can.

Because a large number of people haven't read the VN, so when you try to have conversations about it you have to deal with people that only know like 30% of the story and characters.

Never said he didn't have his dorky moments. It's one of his moe qualities. It gets better the more edgy and chuuni he is otherwise.

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Yes, but his form of mental illness gives him, amongst other things, a near inability to properly grasp social situations. Which makes him act fucking stupid.

That'd be kind of the obvious assumption to make, but when isn't it then more pointed out in the threads, since they seem to be otherwise pretty clear about the opinions of secondaries.

There should be more to it.

There is a reason the term 'secondaries' exists user.

Thoughts on Detroit Emiya?

What do you mean "there should be more to it"?
The people that read the VN are pissed because characters like Shirou are shafted, when you're talking to secondaries you have to explain shit that's in the VN and not in the anime and most importantly, secondaries are fucking retarded.

Half of the posters here are probably secondaries

Yes, but quite a lot of the threads are revolving around the discussion about the anime adaptations without that many posters actively opposing the discussion or actively dismissing them.

It's not like they need to be overtly hostile to the anime, but it seems like a bit of a contradiction to the general attitudes.

It's really the same exact problem with book to movie adaptations. Visual Novels are simply books with moving pictures. They aren't really games. FSN has twice the word count that the entire LotR trilogy has. It's fucking huge. It wasn't voice acted either until after the anime. People read and enjoyed something that fucking long, and it wasn't for the porn (though it probably helped).

Do... you mean his alter?

Nigger I can sniff a secondary in a discussion from a fucking mile away. A key sign is they hate Shirou with a passion.

Yes, niggemiya

It's ok I guess, admittedly not as big on that design. Can't beat the original. But Emiya is Emiya

Let's hope not for a variety of reasons, but I suppose it's likely closer to the truth than I would like it to be.

I mean there's often quite a boasting and ridicule about the quality of different adaptations, while the most obvious response is that they're all just pointless and irrelevant eyecandy when it comes to F/SN, which is a sentiment I don't really see to be uttered.

I'm not even that certain what I'm trying to say anymore, there just seems to be something I'm missing here and I cannot put my finger on it.

Yes. Black Emiya, who carries guns and quote "looks like he should be dealing drugs"(actual quote from Shinjuku Singularity). Detroit Emiya

Agreed.

Truth. I mean, I can see non-secondaries hating Shirou. After all, he has plenty of flaws to hate on. But most of the ones secondaries go after simply don't exist in the VN.

Because the adaptations can't get the MC right, so it's easier to just tell people to read the VN instead of trying to explain shit to someone that has only seen the anime.

>Which makes him act fucking stupid.
I wouldn't call him stupid, just autistically unashamed. He has good grades, he's just emotionally traumatized and mentally damaged. Which makes sense because he went through something awful. He's basically Japanese Ginger Batman.

The anime version is the superior version.
Change my mind.

I know user. But calling him 'stupid' is a quick shorthand that most people can easily grasp without me needing to go on a rant about why he has such issues.

>simply don't exist in the VN.
They exist they're just shown in a much better light because you see the world through his perspective. The inner monologue serves as the narration for the story itself, so the very method we witness his story is skewed through his eyes.

>go on a rant about why he has such issues
There's no need for that, just say "he suffers emotional trauma" and leave it at that. I just say he's a mentally broken human being.

Which anime is superior to what and in what way.

Have you had to deal with secondaries for years?
Have you had to explain the same shit over and over and over for years?
Have you ever waited for an adaptation of something you like only for it to completely miss the point of a character?
This isn't even a F/SN only thing, it happens a lot with book adaptations or where there's a very clear distinction between the fans of the original work and the adaptation.

QUICK REMINDER-
Shirou and Ryuunosuke are related!

>Facts
Both have orange hair.
Both were in Fuyuki during the time period of the Grail War.
Both are 'non-magus' with unusually good Magic Circuits(before Shirou atrophied his).
Both have social communication issues.

Side note, I'm aware Ryuu's family was a 'defunct' magus line, where he was the first one with magic circuits in a good long while, hence why he could find summoning books in their attic or whatever. But that also explains Shirou's origin.

>alleged dumber version is better because shirou is dumb
Is it easier to self-insert into a retard for you?

I prefer sword autist, but that works too

Yeah, he's literally called Detroit Emiya in-game

Why does Sakura lack eye pupils?

Well, I haven't experienced that myself that much, though I've been aware of the phenomenon for a long time. The thing with Fate is that it should be a very extreme example as not only the medium transformation, but also the actual execution just doesn't bear the weight of the source material, but the adaptations also have the potential weight of giving the viewer the impression that they are a relatively good representation of the original work and despite the general attitute of the thread being very VN skewed toward strong dislike towards secondaries it doesn't really seem to have too much of a negative attitute towards the anime adaptations themselves even though to me it kind of seems like they should be potentially quite disregarded and disliked outright, which doesn't seem to be the case not nearly enough.

That's kind of what I'm trying to say.

>the fans of the original work and the adaptation.
It doesn't help that TM is changing their model to how the franchise will stay relevant. They have more or less stopped the VN making business side and is focusing on actual video-games. The story is becoming less important. We can either embrace the new franchises that will emerge or let it die out with honor.

Nu-TMfanboys are emerging who are just acquainted with secondary/tertiary installments and spin-offs.

It's a kind of "dead" eyes i guess ? Her eyes look even darker when she's in middle school

Worms. They even turned her hair purple

>is focusing on actual video-games.
Nice joke

>The story is becoming less important.
Which is weird, because the story is the best part of FGO.
It's nothing amazing, but it's still the best part. Gameplay isn't that great, and their gacha rates suck hot balls.

>doesn't really seem to have too much of a negative attitute towards the anime adaptations
That's the power of ufotable's Unlimited Budget Works. Not saying that OG Fate can't hold up to current anime these days because it came from such a unique time in anime history, but the budget and quality from ufotable probably helps out a lot with it being popular. Fate has gotten darker, really because of HF being the current adaptation, but also because a lot of the spin-offs don't regard romance nearly as importantly.

I'm going on a fucking tangent because I'm high. The point I'm trying to make is: I fucking love Fate/Stay Night

>even though to me it kind of seems like they should be potentially quite disregarded and disliked outright, which doesn't seem to be the case not nearly enough.
There's plenty of people out there than hate the adaptations, personally I hate the first HF movie, but after a while and after seeing many adaptations having the same problems over and over again you come to understand that some things don't adapt well to a tv show, like inner monologues or shitloads of narration.

>. Fate has gotten darker
Typemoon has always been dark. Their first hit-VN created the 'rape the maids' meme for fuck sake.
F/SN is basically a deconstruction of itself. The entire Fate route pumps up Shirou's hero complex as, if not a smart then, then an admirable thing.
Then UBW breaks down why it's(in the opinions of the authors) stupid.
The HF does that even but even worse.

The second movie really was better because of the amount of big explosions. It was the dumb popcorn installment of the trilogy. I fucking loved it though, it does shit to tell every detail of the story even remotely well enough.

>Smart then
>that even

This is what I great for not checking what I type.
>smart thing*
>that again*

I haven't watched it yet but I honestly expect nothing from it, the first one managed to kill any hope that I had for the trilogy.

I've always thought the narrative structure of the three routes acted as a sort of spectrum, Fate being the complete acceptance of Shirou's ideals, Heaven's Feel being the complete rejection of those ideal's, and the battle ground between the two are in UBW. It's fucking wild to think about.

forced animation

It does one thing very well: Sakura-boners. She's fucking great in the adaptation. Rin isn't enough of a bitch though as she is in the VN, in my opinion. It's a good adaptation

but it has historical and fictional figures turned into waifus!

Agree, but even if UBW is a battle ground it still tries to go "these ideals are incredibly unhealthy"
It's a story I adore, but it was never a light story, it was always dark as hell. It just had these really bright beacons of hope in that darkness.
The newer stuff either doesn't have those beacons of hope, or makes them harder to see.

Except for FGO. You're playing as the beacon of hope in that, which is part of what makes the story enjoyable to me.

>They have more or less stopped the VN making business side and is focusing on actual video-games. The story is becoming less important.
Even in FGO the story is still their first priority and it has been improved a lot. Like for example, remember that Lord Chaldeas vs Excalibur Morgan battle with just NP animations and voices in Fuyuki prologue ? Now they don't do that anymore and keep the story's narrative + make new CGs for servants using NP scenes like Mashu activated Ortenaus for the first time in LB1 or Bryn, Surtr and Napoleon's NP in LB2.

To be fair, HF's story detail is hard to pull off since it does pull stuff from other Type-Moon titles like Zeltrech.

Related to this comment, I liked the CCC story WAY more than I thought I would.
I did not expect Melty to become one of my favorite characters. Especially with how she acted at first.

I watch it for the great action, decent story and hot girls. Shirou isn't as autistic as you make him sound eithier. There are much worse trash out there

>. Shirou isn't as autistic as you make him sound eithier
I mean, he's not healthy. I wouldn't, non-jokingly, call him 'autistic'. But the dude isn't well.

>Shirou isn't as autistic as you make him sound eithier

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>It just had these really bright beacons of hope
Fucking right. Shit gets really intense and then the random times where you feel the characters even have one glimmer of hope that those glimmers can just be snuffed away at any second. The best part is that you feel relaxed and confident from the few allies Shirou has at times (Saber, Lancer, Rider, etc). because they are fucking heroes and can get shit done.

To be fair the heaven's feels adaptation is doing a decent job with emiya.

>but also because a lot of the spin-offs don't regard romance nearly as importantly.
I mean, FGO is literally "the story of love and hope". Right in Meiho-sou event (which is a metaphor of the main story as well as the father-daughter relationship between Romani and Mashu), Roman says it again in the last chapter: that's a story of romance/that's a story of Roman (ロマン).

Also to be fair TM used to release a lot of works with dark-theme before. It seems like Nasu wants to write more bright story that focuses on the "love" theme nowadays.

Admittedly I haven't gotten beyond the 5th singularity. I trash on FGO's story while not even having completed it yet like the literal trash-can I am.

It's the longest fucking route and it's receiving three short ass movies. The shortest route was probably UBW and that had a full fucking adaptation. The Fate route adaptation is a joke to most people and doesn't even exist according to most nu-fatefags.

>It seems like Nasu wants to write more bright story
That douchebag should just start working on that Tsukihime remake.

>The shortest route was probably UBW and that had a full fucking adaptation.
Wait really? Well that would explain why I felt it was kinda boring and padded at times through its run.

How the fuck would current Nasu be able to brighten up Tsukihime? It's literally the timeline where humanity loses and Servants can't be summoned. DAAs don't help either

Honestly ? I would like to get Mahoyo sequels more than TsukiRe. Of course having a new Tsukihime VN with better quality is good but from what i know, Nasu will also change the lore about 27 DAAs and more stuff in Tsukihime timeline which TM fans are already familiar with and using for many info pages.

I didn't really get the impression from Fate myself. I think the closer thing would that his ideals go more unexamined and unquestioned. I don't think they're really boasted up in almost any fashion, if anything they would be kind of talked down by the same exact way you're describing UBW, since Saber and Shirou are supposed to parallel eachother and Shirou himself ciriticizes how stupidly selfless and devoted to her she is, which basically makes him unintentionally criticize his own actions towards his own ideal. Sure, Saber never really breaks the character of King of Britain, but it shows that Shirou is kind of hypocritical towards himself.

UBW is where his ideal gets examined, refined, but ultimately accepted by Shirou. The whole Archer/Shirou fight is about how Archer cannot win against Shirou, despite him acknowledging all the flaws in what he wants to achieve. He probably would've been tainted and second-guess himself enough to not pass through the grail mud anymore.

HF is one I am least familiar with, but recently I've been interpreting the route more along the lines of Shirou realizing that it's never really been about the ideal itself, since the whole things was merely a borrowed concept from Kiritsugu that served as a vessel to achieve his actual goal of replicating the smile he saw when he was born as Shirou, thinking it would save him, but ironically it was him who got saved again by someone else. There's also the issue of mind of steel, but it's probably not worth going in there.

Shirou also was never really meant to be stupid by any means, he was meant to be depicted as someone who's just extremely self-unaware, always putting everyone else in front of himself, so he ends up acting extremely awkward and socially retarded without having any imparied intelligence. He also is meant to be more mature than Kiritsugu towards his ideals from talking to Kotomine.

Shirou is actually abit of a subtle bully to Toesucka, whether he (or retarded readers) actually notices it or not.

In the anime? Please explain

>There's also the issue of mind of steel, but it's probably not worth going in there.
Yeah best to just leave that one alone. Illya had the only sensible reaction to that choice, just pure disappointment.

It's fine, she deserves to be bullied. She paired up with the worst Goddess after all.

Correct use of the term. If illya and rin weren't fan favorites, this animation level would not have touched them.

What I mean about Mind of steel is that it seems like such a huge thematic point of the whole series that' itd likely be so devisive and difficult to unpackage that it's probably not worth even shallowly going over.

>fan favorites
No offense user, but I think that term kind of breaks down when like half the cast are 'fan favorites.
People love Shirou, people love Rin, Illya, Sakura, Saber, Cu, Medusa.
Some people who love bad guys even love Gil or Kotomine.
I know a guy who honestly has Shinji as his favorite character.

Fate and UBW were basically Nasu going full mainstream pandering mode at the time, with HF being his return to roots. People hating on HF and Sakura back then were the main reason Nasu became a complete sellout afterwards, as he himself stated in an interview this year.

>After the release of the original game, how was the response to HF?
>After I had finished writing the scenario, I had a feeling of completion and thought "I've cleared a difficult task!", but after having received far more reactions and response to it than I had imagined or expected, I felt that I was able to learn a lot from it.

>To be precise, which kinds of reactions do you remember the most, Nasu-san?
>I felt that users want feel-good stories more than anything else. If you play Fate and UBW, you get to taste feel-good storytelling for roughly 40 hours. So I felt that there was no need for HF to be a feel-good story after all that, but then I learned that apparently not all users feel the same way. I reflected on this greatly, and came to the conclusion that for some works, it's okay to aim for being feel-good all the way through. I believe that if it weren't for my reflection back then, Type Moon wouldn't be the way it is today.

Other than the bread scene?
Pointing out her "flab of the mind" term is another that I can immediately recall.
Its all really mild things, but when he doesn't do that with anyone else, its quite a contrast.

Kotomine is just great. Just his seiyuu sells him completely. He also has some hard to forget moments. Yorokobe Shounen, your wish will finally come true, mapo tofu, scene in the church basement, the missing heart. There's personally quite a lot to just like anout the guy. His arrogance is just so impressionable. I also like his church theme. It just sounds like him sitting in the church, playing on organs this very lone, but nice sounding orchestral music, copying human behaviour and trying to resonate emotionally, while he himself doesn't actually feel anything while doing so despite his highest efforts, thus the lonely tone.

youtube.com/watch?v=nDDoqAksEn0

Gilgamesh is also quite fun. The gleeful and genuine nature of his arrogance combined with his trully impressive enter onto the scene is kind of hard to not leave an impression.

Shinji is kind of weird. While I think that he could've easily been made much more sympathetic with how generally weak and pathetic he actually is and his behaviour being merely a cover-up for his self-loathing and feeling of inferiority: He just comes around as a genuine unredeemable asshole, which is a shame and a bit of a wasted potential.

People use it to masturbate to and also to feed their gambling addictions. No one actually enjoys the content of the series itself.

On the other hand, though, they're making good use of those limitations to justify cutting the needless bloat like the Ilya route remnants, which just served to distract people from the already complicated narrative regarding Sakura. The trilogy is clearly made with the main purpose of making people understand and appreciate Sakura, which it's easily succeeding at.

That would kind of explain the Last Episode pretty well. I kind of thought it was mostly a brain child of Takeuchi, but it would align rather well with the idea of trying to have a very good feeling, which I really dislike and I cannot believe it happened, since The Continuation of the Dream is a perfect ending I absolutely adore.

I understand if for Réalta Nua he needed to tone down the erotic/sexual parts and it's almost understandable he'd sell out in this way, especially since he never seemed to have cared for this ero part anyway, but the new ending was just a pure baseless slap in the face.

>Kotomine is just great. Just his seiyuu sells him completely.

Doesn't he play a character in every Nasuverse series?

Maybe, I'm not really sure. I think he did voice Nero or one of the Shikis in the Tsukihime though. There's no reason to not hire him, since he really is that good.

Kotomine is really popular though, especially among those who read HF.

Kara no Kyoukai - Araya Souren
Tsukihime - Nero Chaos
Fate/stay night and zero - Kirei Kotomine

>Kotomine is really popular though, especially among those who read HF.

What about Kotomine in Fate route?

He isn't explored much in Fate and if VN is your first introduction to his character, by the end of the route he comes around as generic villain.

I agree, Kotomine is great. But I just felt the need to specify the villain part.
Might be the tism

Well, the post I was replying specified not only "villan part", but especially the "even" part, which implies that these characters shouldn't really be liked, which pronted me to explain why they should be very likeable.

I am the guy you replied to. Like I said, must be the tism.

What about Zouken and True Assassin?

I don't think either of them are very likeable. True Assassin maybe to a certain degree and Zouken kind of redeems himself in the end, but it's probably not enough for all that he's done.

No one likes Worm Boi
Some people think True Assassin is cool.
Lots of FGO players like "Cursed Arm Sensei"

It's for sub-70 IQ teens. There's nothing redeeming about Fate/Shit.

I started to like Shinji a bit after reading FHA. Seems like in FSN he was at his worst lowest point because of the HGW going on while in FHA is more chill.
Doesn't justify any of his actions in FSN, but at least it shows that he doesn't only have negative traits.

The novels are pretty good namely Zero and Strange Fake.

How does LE ruin Fate's ending? Well for (You) anyway.

>they're making good use of those limitations to justify cutting the needless bloat like the Ilya route remnants
>cutting the Ilya remnants
>when they're clearly going for the good end
It's going to totally ruin the gutpunch that is the finale

Kinda disappointed hardly anyone discusses about the lore of Fate, it's honestly pretty interesting.

It was discussed to death for many years before FGO came out.

What were the best BAD ENDINGS in Fate?

Not to mention the canonical designs look bland and same-facey as fuck. The only thing I like about Fate is the fanart that it inspires among some of the best doujin circles.

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Hypnos caught me off guard. Like I didn't expect it to come out of Issei of all people. Rafflesia Umbrella, Womb Realm Mandala and World Purge Meltdown get special mentions for the sickening feeling in the pit of my stomach after dying

Practically a complete newcomer, only seen Fate/Zero, am aware that it spoiled stuffles. I know Fate's fucking insane, where do I go from here?

Is there a reason why Nasu is adamant of not connecting Fate titles to a single timeline? Heck he even considers Zero as AU despite it connecting pretty well to SN.

Read the VN nerd. Zero spoils the 4th HGW and most of HF, but the VN still holds up and avoids the pitfalls of cutting Shirou's internal monologue

Alternate worlds nigga. Fate and Tsukihime are biggest offenders, but Zero not connecting with SN is due to some butthurt from old-school nips who dislike how much Zero differs from FSN

You don't need Ilya being curious about Shirou's morning wood, burning pancakes or arguing with Rin about who gets to infodump for the nth time to establish that Shirou's sister sacrificing herself for him is a sad thing.

>Practically a complete newcomer, only seen Fate/Zero, am aware that it spoiled stuffles. I know Fate's fucking insane, where do I go from here?

Fate isn't as insane as you think.

Original Fate series:
>Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition
sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2725572
>Fate/hollow ataraxia
sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
>Fate/Zero LNs
nyaa.si/view/1131925

What did you think of Zero?

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>Zero not connecting with SN is due to some butthurt from old-school nips who dislike how much Zero differs from FSN

Did Saber and Gil fight in a sea of flames or not?

Enjoyed it, though Alexander the Great as Rider kinda stole the show from everyone else, imo.
Probably a brainlet-tier opinon, I'm guessing.

>Probably a brainlet-tier opinon, I'm guessing.

It's kino

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Not really. DUDE, Gil, and JETS stole the show

>Is there a reason why Nasu is adamant of not connecting Fate titles to a single timeline?
Because "different timeline" is the reason why there are many Fate works now ? Apoc can't happen in the same timeline with FSN, FGO can't happen in the same timeline with FSN, Extra can't happen in the same timeline with FSN and so on.
>he even considers Zero as AU despite it connecting pretty well to SN.
I'm quite sure the reason for it was mentioned before (due to a small difference between FZ and the 4th HGW's detail in FSN VN).

Fate/stay night. After finishing both FSN and FZ, you can choose any Fate work to enjoy next.

>Enjoyed it, though Alexander the Great as Rider kinda stole the show from everyone else, imo.

The story continues in Fate/stay night. If you want to see the conclusion to Saber's story, play the Fate route.

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It is cute, but they might go for the "Sakura is unathletic/lazy" but too much. Not remembering that she walks to the Emiya household from the Matou residence constantly, if you look at a map of Fuyuki, it is clear across town, and she does it before even *Shirou* wakes up. Or the pool kiss scene she has with Shirou in Hollow, she actually beats the dude at holding her breath and gives him air.
If there was anything I didn't particularly care for, it's this also passive aggressive way they tried to call Sakura lazy, because full figured buxom girls gotta be slovenly or something. She takes naps, she likes to eat, but I'd say she works pretty hard, so that narrative is unseemly. Even Rin is saying things in HF True like, "you're lazy, so somebody has to watch you do you don't slack off". I'm like, come on Rin, she found her own magecraft teacher without you when she didn't have to and is training, don't be so heavy handed. She is the youngest of the cast, but she sure gets her balls busted for not working hard a lot. When in reality she works super hard. Even has custom recipe books.

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Time traveler here, don't bother coming here to discuss Fate during Fall.

>everyone forgets this

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But I live for the Babylonia shitposting

I do but some don't, what a shame.

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They'll probably remove the Quetz and Jaguar Man scenes. Probably for the better. While the loss of them is sad, they didn't contribute or add anything of value to the story.

We still don't know the number of episodes so dunno. Maybe they will keep them, maybe not.
also please don't remove the Atlas scene in Camelot movies

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Atlas scene is too important to cut, same with Holmes. Xuanzang might be, but who knows at this point

How strong is Gil supposed to be at this point? I was arguing with a friend on whether or not full-powered Gil could fight off every other FSN servant. Can he?

>They'll probably remove the Quetz and Jaguar Man scenes
Dropped

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>the pool kiss scene she has with Shirou in Hollow, she actually beats the dude at holding her breath and gives him air

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At the same time if they work together? Probably not, too much enemies at once.
1 on 1 he beats everyone easily if he isn't in his usual jobber mode.

I saw some people saying that probably since Atlas scene got removed in Camelot the Stage and they already say the anime adaption will focus on Bedivere, not Chaldea. But anyway i agree with you, Atlas scene is very important to the main story so i think they will still keep it.

>Concise wit? No thanks, I'm just going to clutter this thing up with as much referential humor as I can.
Why?

Sudou had a really tight, strict schedule, so its understandable. He has the "I'll be on your side no matter what bit" and had cute moments. People wanted Die Lorelei being sung, but whoo boy Ilya's VA just can't do it, she can't sing that well. He also added Ilya knowing Kerry loved her (though let's be honest it doesn't take away how fucked up the guy was anyway, but I digress). I expect HF3 to be pretty emotionally packed, since it's a straight shot to the end.

FGO """humor""". Don't think too hard about it because neither did they

I don't see the relation, someone else could've just use a Gilgamesh and Enkidu pic at the bottom and the message will still be delivered.

To be fair you need a pretty high IQ to understand Fate

>liking the original LN
That's your problem. Try anything else besided the braindead FGO and that one anime about everyone sucking homunculus dick.

Dude, I wanted to keep it cute, I knew about that, but didn't want to get depressed. The parts where it said she got beat so much she can feel hostile intent from people even while asleep are also depressing.

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The WEG format in general is flooded with this dimwitted slop.

It's ok, user. She's happy now.

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It pretty massively goes aginist the original ending. Saber was meant to get a closure and what Shirou did for her most importantly was to save her from eternaly being placed in the throne of heroes. This was done unconditionally with no expectations of ever seeing her or getting anything in return. Walking that all back into her waiting for undisclosed amount of time for Shirou i nafterlife and meeting in Avalon is just unwarranted bullshi fantasyt ending that just doesn't add anything and makes the original ending lose some of its charm and meaning. Saber was just supposed to come back, die and that'd be it. Her last moments with Shirou are supposed to be on the top of the Ryuudou temple, but no, they'll ultimately see eachother again. It was a perfect sad and slightly bittersweet good ending. Not to mention in made Saber break her character a bit by making her into something else other than King of Britain, which was one of the most important things to note about her. Despite everything that happened she is and always will remain just a King of Britain.