Dragon Ball Super

Will Dragon Ball end without Jiren ever being surpassed? It's been two arcs and he is still the undisputed strongest.

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Almost every single frame of Jiren is like a painting of alpha masculinity.

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OP is autistic. Time for cute Force and Pan Friends to destory this thread.

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Will Dragon Ball end with a DB character ever surpassing Superman? It's been deacdes and he's still the undisputed strongest

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>chinese cartoon
>alpha masculinity
I can sense the insecurity all the way from here. Shave off your neckbeard, take off the fedora and go to the gym instead of coping with cartoons.

I don't get how you could watch Super and not hate it. How could people turn a blind eye to bad animation, bland as fuck characters, a plot that went nowhere and awful, asspull-tier transformations/power levels? For what it's worth, I loved both DB and DBZ but I can't consider anything that happened in Super as canon; it was just too shitty to accept, especially with that reset ending (which we all knew it would be).

He has already been surpassed

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damn i hate super but love dbz for being the exact same shit with the same animation inconsistencies lmfaoo...head ass

ORE WA, SUUPA BEJITA

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So this is the intelligence level of Super posters. Can't say I'm surprised. I'm out m8.

Present Jiren is a little bitch compared to the powercreep of the db saga

based let's fight superman

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Speaking of superman, Yea Forums of all boards has a dub thread going on that's much more civilized than these threads almost have ever been, kind of says something don't you think.

db thread not dub my bad

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>has a DB thread going on
No it doesn't retard

based

based

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It has goku on the thumbnail and is actually having a somewhat decent conversation about the series, dispite it's rough start.

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Enter Moro

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link or shut the fuck up capeshitting faggot

Huh nevermind it got deleted so you were kind of right since you never saw it.

AAAAAAAAH KAKAROTTO PLEASE HELP!!! MY ARM AAAAAAAAH PLEASE GOD KILL ME!!!!

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>will Dragon Ball end
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*wheeze*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

DRAGON BALL NEVER END CASH COW IMMORTAL

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>seething every time I post it
sad.

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KNEEL.

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Broly a wholesome.

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Based.

not canon

>implying the anime won't adapt the Moro arc if it returns

if it does adapts Moro's arc it would meant that the manga is truly a promotional material for the anime since it follows the anime storyline, if the anime didn't adapt the Moro's arc it would simply mean the arc is a filler, a win-win situation for us

>Bring back peace to the world, you want to grow up to be a scientist, don't you?
>HEY SERU SAMA, HERE'S A SENZU BEAN, WHEN YOU RAPE HIM, MAKE SURE YOU GO BALLS DEEP

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Whatever happens, the truth will remain that the manga is good, and the anime is shitty.

Based

>I'M NOT A HERO OF KEKOLDING, BUT THOSE WHO'D KILL BEJITA BEFORE KISSING MY WIFE... I WON'T FORGIVE!

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then why did you guys always lose on the manga-anime debate?

Soon.

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Enter CHADren.

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>mangaCHADS
>losing to Toeicucks
Not bloody likely.

Enter Italian Goku

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A crossover with Dragon Ball and Toriko where they do nothing but sit around eating would be fucking great

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Enter El Hermano

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Man I cant believe Tien beat Goku.

Enter Paragus' taint.

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Will someone dance a better cumbia than jiren?

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Now I want to see a dance-off filler episode like the baseball one.

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Good idea.

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>Impressive moves, Bejita. But no mere mortal can surpass the gods!

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>Goku tells everyone about the androides Gero will create
>Bulma suggests finding Gero and killing him before he can create the androids
>Vegeta threatens to kill Bulma if he tries to stop Gero because he wants to fight
>Goku says he wants to fight them too and that it's be wrong to kill Gero because he hasn't done anything wrong yet
>Krillin, Tien and Yamcha also want to fight the androids

>People will unironically defend the androids arc

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someone post smol orea supa bejita

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>TRY THIS ON FOR SIZE

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based tardkuchad

A classic

beerus is a fucking genocider, this is fucked up

Bros... where the FUCK is the anime????

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kek. based.

reekdom is a liar
It's never coming back
cope

zenchan how many quadrilions have you wiped today? was it exciting?

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>like a painting of alpha masculinity
autism, to the max

No big loss, it's easily the worst adaptation of Super.

Oh look, the last lonely Copelyfag is whimpering at the astute intellectuals populating these threads, begging them to stop employing such loquacious and eloquent diction and espousing such scintillating and lofty analyses. Do the Jirenscholars hurt your brain, Doglypet?

BoG goku

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Enter CUTEhan

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Li'l Gohan is best.

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lol Jiren isn't even Beerus tier, let alone angel.

but he destroyed MUI which is a Zeno tier transformation

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>zeno tier
die

>UI Goku
>Zeno-tier
Since when?

Besides, Jiren got his ass kicked by UI. Goku just used up all his stamina because he hadn't mastered the form properly.

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you guys should give up on reasoning with Jobrentards

I don't know about all that, but Vegeta is undefeated against Goku.

Cope and concede, spic

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of course,you are a zionist

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How the hell do people think MUI is a powerup? It literally just ups the defensive capabilities. Goku never really exceeded SSB Kaoken in terms of offense

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>kissed by a tranny

Nice headcanon

HUUUURGH IT HURTS!

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B-BEJITA SAMA, THOU WOULD'ST HAVE THIS LOW CLASS PEASANT'S DEEPEST GRATITUDE IF THOU WERE TO BESTOW YOUR ROYAL LIPS UPON HIS DEAR WENCH

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it ups his offensive and defensive capabilities but not strength.

based

T-THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING! I'M THE BIG MAN HERE!!!!

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>Stronger than Beerus
>Stronger than Merged Zamasu
>Stronger than Broly
>Stronger than Moro
>Stronger than Z, GT and Pedros
WHATS HIS NAME?

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Nice power of friendship rageboost you got there, the only time Shitku actually briefly gained the upper hand against Chadren, too bad Shitku still lost and Chadren is still undefeated 1v1. Cope forever.

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You know spamming your low quality bait threads like this will lead DB to go the route of Sakura Fish right? I know you fags don't actually care about Dragon Ball but Jesus man.

Stop hiding behind other characters, Gocuck.

>Yeah you're trying to save the world but I got an amazin' and excitin' fight to do so move or I'll kill you God, wakka wakka!

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post beautiful forms

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didnt jiren have a better showing in the manga version of that fight?

I am actually a lizardfag getting shots in on the side

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>I'M NOT A HERO OF KEKOLDING OR ANYTHING, BUT THOSE WHO'D KILL BEJITA BEFORE KISSING MY WIFE... I WON'T FORGIVE!

Imagine being a fucking Gokek fag, jesus christ

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don't even acknowledge their boring shit.

Jiren just got lucky UI ran out. Goku had him.

damn these threads were fun while they lasted

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Kind of, instead of limit breaking all at once he progressively gains the upper hand as he grows stronger and adapts to UI and they become more or less equal. Eventually he kind of knocks Goku out of UI. A Gokufag will say Goku just ran out of stamina while a Jirenfag will claim he was still UI when the hit landed.

B-BEERUS SAMA STOP HURTING ME I'LL LET YOU SLAP BULMA AGAIN

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Oh. Taking after your fave, I see.

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I wish we did more kaioshin bein bullied posts again.

HOW IS BEJITA SUPPOSED TO KISS MY WIFE IF YOU BLOW HER UP? BEERUS YOU FOOL I WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO DESTROY MY WOOOOOORLD!

youtu.be/fI3maNT2hU8

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Cope and concede forever, Tardku fag, your cuck hero got wrecked. All the asspull and plot armor in the world and he still got wrecked. You cannot refute this image.

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>jijii

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ToP shitposting was the better than Zamasu arc shitposting

lel

>when meme magic is better than your series

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>somebody actually made a play-by-play of the final fight scene to stroke Jiren's cock
Jiren's power level is matched only by his fans' autism.

>When everything is better than your series

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AAAAH BEERUS WHY AREN'T YOU HELPING ME! IF I DIE YOU DIE YOU DUMB CAT! AAAAAAAAAAH

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Jirenscholars intellectual prowess is unmatched, that's why they always win every argument.

Manga Jiren comes off a bit better, but Goku's UI (and I think the fight in general) seems to go by much quicker. Additionally he doesn't have 17 cheapshotting him throughout the fight, so Manga Jiren may be less of a tank.

Powerlevels in the manga seem lower in general. Maybe it's just me.

Should best girl get the canon treatment treatment like Broly, lads?

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Absolutely!

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Goddamn it, I can't be mad at you.

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>voredroid
Hell no.

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HxH is okay, but it's way too long winded and full of itself. I dropped it after the guy with the chains and the red eyes actually beat the super buff evil guy who punched hard

>voredroid

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>hating on best girl

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shit I think I'm missing one

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>watching other shonen

I'm going to fight at full power Bejita, so that buu doesn't get ressurected.

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i watch comedy shonen, is that okay?

>used good
>best

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watching? almost all anime is garbage, my man. manga is where it's at. But toyotaco's fanfic still sucks

>not watching Fist of the North Star
You Are Already Gay.

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>almost all anime is garbage
>posts on Yea Forums
might as well go to Yea Forums

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>threatening a deity

Someone should do something about these fucking NINGEN.

>dem quads
WORST ANDROID BTFO

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This.

goku the niggest

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BEJITA-SAMA! You will kiss my wife whether you like it or not!

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Did you know that Ningen are only 70% of the universe, but commit >90% of the crime?

Deport all Ningen and ban Ningen marriages.

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NO KAKAROTTO! I will never kiss your wife!

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why would I talk about manga on the comics and cartoon board? you're strange, mate. plus Yea Forums is full of /pol/ these days WAY worse than Yea Forums is

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Hi, I'm Jiren, the strongest being in the entire multiverse. Nice to meet you!

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it will be awhile tho

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YES YOU WIIIIIIL!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHGGHH

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NOW I'M MAAAAD! BEJITAAAAA!

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...

Oh my!

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if he can combine ssb, ultra instict and kaioken then yeah

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Will Goku ever figure out that Chi Chi cheated on him with Yamcha?

FIND OUT NEXT TIME ON

DRAGON BALL Z

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Even if he did, it's not like he would care LMAO

>tfw no live action stunt
youtube.com/watch?v=6juok2UydFQ

>Yamcha-sama.... THOSE LIPS WEAR MEANT FOR BEJITA-SAMAAAA!!!

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>shitku

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>casts paragus

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...

I'M

GETTIN'

EXCITED

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...

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Can you imagine if Toriyama had the balls to actually kill off main characters and keep them dead? Imagine death having any agency or effect on characters at all...!

youtube.com/watch?v=gFoCllvEdFs&feature=youtu.be&t=119

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soooooon

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WOAH THIS GUY SHOWED UP AND MURDERED KRILIN JUST LIKE THAT?! WAKKAKKWAKWKAKAKA

based togashi
i can't wait for chapter 400
some mindfuckery is gonna take place

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no me

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Based.

Cringe.

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so why the fuck is she a majin? like, I have nothing against a the character but her being a majin doesn't make any fucking sense to me

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Are you guys Vegetafags or are you mad about Super's characterization of Goku?

I honestly can't tell anymore.

I unironically think this would make a great SS5

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Got Buu cells. Don't matter where it came from.

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Only Risu is mad.

but you gotta replace SS4 with this

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Is the anime ever coming back?

Dammit man, I need the source.

no this

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>buu
>having cells at all
nigga what

>t.muhammad

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>m-my powerlevel shonen is very serious and dramatic!

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Wish I knew. Screencaped straight from pinterest.

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It went on Hiatus back in 2018, and the rumored July revival turned out to be false. It's up in the air.

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>posting worst 21 porn on blue board.
Disgraceful.

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THE MOST POWERFUL

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I've always hated goku, he is an abusive psychopath but all other characters pretend as if he was a good guy, and so do a part of the fandom for some reason

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Oh you poor deluded dragonball bro. HxH relies on intelligence and tactics in it's fight, pitting cunning against cunning. Unlike more juvenile conflicts like in DBS, which is "my arbitrary number is bigger so I win", one of the most dangerous fighters is some guy who can turn sticky and knows how to use it.

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pintrest is cancer

I agree. But there are gems on it.

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>not liking based tardku
shit taste

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Honestly, Goku didn't need to return after the Cell arc. Gohan should've been a straight-up hero instead of the Great Saiyaman, and it would've been interesting to see how Vegeta reacted to never having the chance to fight Goku again.

Dragon Ball AF is actually better than Toyo's Dragon Ball Super. Like, what the fuck, how does that even happen?

FEAR ME

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just reverse search your screens on yandex
twitter.com/St62SVNExILF2p9/status/1129021181690912768

And done. Enjoy.

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Great thread.

when

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We aren't all at eachother's throats, so it could be worse I guess.

>another nip becoming a vorefag
Disgusting

>muh vore
Point to one pic posted that involves vore, or for that matter the majin version. Vore is for degenerates, that's why good 21 is pure.

She'll never be pure.

Holy shit browsing DA for oc characters is like sifting for gold in a sewer

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Is this the next OC for Heroes?

This one would actually be kinda alright if the shitty camo pattern was gone

I accept your concession.

Looks like Sonic reject.
10/10 for effort.

The purest.

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What is this OC name?

Didn't AF have Evil Goku too?

Grit your teeth Weakly, this is gonna hurt.

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I agree

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Did he punch himself?

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aw fuck I actually like JanemBuu

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>SSB
Don't make me laugh

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Always kinda liked this one, myself.

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while we're speaking of fusions

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good taste user, space girls a best

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Especially ones without pants.

That was the first time in his 40+ yrs of life he actually fought another humanoid figure.

some of these are good

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It’s going to pick up when the Olympics start since Goku is the mascot

Owari da.

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yes

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no u

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no Uu

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KOI

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>wakka wakka
Fuck off with your DBZ Abridged shit

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>blue-skinned thots

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best girl

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her husband

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Close, but no cigar

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Why was Shin so weak and shitty compared to Zamasu?

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>B-BEJITA-SAMA PLS DON'T FEED ME TO THE BUG! THIS TOASTER APOLOGIZ- N-NOOOO!

As a mathematics and finance major that “statistic” made me laugh out loud.

hot

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why not both gayku?

Kek

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>gets killed while using Goku cells by Vegeta taking him up the rear as Gohan blows a load all over the bug's face just a week later

They've long since given up hope. AT's will is known. 3-0, when?

At least Big Brain Shota Kai knows Goku would never lose to Vegeta (resurrecting Buu). Again.

chichi do I really have to beat the shit out of you again?!

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Why do so many artists draw Caulifla with underwear? Its literally canon she wears nothing

Honestly, why did he do it?

>Strongest Saiyan
>Biggest Saiyan
>Has the tightest pussy as wife material
How can Jobren, Jobku and Jobgeta even compare?

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>losing to Goku
>getting others to fight your battles
pathetic. born to die in vegeta's place. akira probably brought him back just to be bulla's piccolo or some sad shit like that

BEJITA YOU MUST FUSE WITH MY WIFE AND BECOME ONE WITH HER NOW!!!!

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YAMETE, MY HANDS BEJITA SAMA

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RoF should have never happened.
It should have been Cooler coming into canon and SSJB should have been left in the trash where it belongs.

>shitty 18 knockoff mixed with bubble gum
even zangya was better and she was a filthy gypsy

a million times better than shitdroid 18

>DON'T HELP ME AGAINST PIKKORO SAMA, I DON'T CARE THAT HE WILL MURDER ALL OF YOU IF I LOSE

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>Humans
>Help

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>glorified fruit person
>actually mortal soul and all
>retarded enough to use goku's body instead of a GoD

>and THIS...is to job...EVEN FURTHER BEYOND
Call it Super Saiyan 0-3. A form that self-defeats so ourPrince won't have to dirty his gloves.

>questioning a gay

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BUT YOU CAN ONLY FUSE WITH HER BY JOINING LIPS

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SILENCE! Go kiss your grand-daughter. Your master commands you, dog.

your teeth is falling grandma~

How would Moro face against Broly? Broly seemed to have unlimited stamina and ki. Only took Gogeta going SSJB to stop Broly. How would Moro face off against him?

A dickless green slug is a better husband and father than Goku. That’s sad.

anime is never coming back, toyo is whipping the toeidogs

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pure shit. cope

I think he wanted to exploit the Zenkais to grow even stronger than the GoDs. He keeps talking about getting stronger and stronger.

Besides, stealing a GoD's body might also attract too much attention from Zeno and the Angels.

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Probably not too well. Broly'd likely just charge straight for Moro and smash his face in before he got too far with the ki absorption.

>proud of the generic ki disc enough to name it
>almost never lands the thing
Even Goku has 100% accuracy with it.

>bandages
crippleku

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TRUNKSU
youtube.com/watch?v=9jJrkfogLnc

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What is this shitjetabros....

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He looks deranged here. I can see him using Potara to permanently fuse Chi-Chi with Bulma so Vegeta had to kiss something part his wife only for Buu to foil those plans.

>goku you've been watching your sons and friends pulverized to bloodied pulps by beerus and did nothing?
>here's a bitchslap, that should teach you

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>voredroid better than anyone

>I-IT'S AN HONOR TO BE UNDER YOUR FOOT BEERUS SAMA

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Tien saved Goku from Ma Senior with his shitty flight.

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redpill me on risu, geekdom, carlos, cipher, vegetox, herms and terez

G-Gokubros... B-Bejitafags are making fun of us on Yea Forums

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>fails in all regards
Forever the tea bitch of GodTube.

YES I WILL PUT ON A DANCING ATTIRE FOR YOU BEERUS SAMA

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>G-GOKU-SAMA PLEASE DEFEAT HIM

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Cipher, VegettoEX, Herms, and Terez are based. Risu, Reekdom, and Carlos are cringe.

>just receiving Vegeta's seed is enough to hard counter Goku

>fails in all regards
Well, yeah. If he'd succeeded, the universe would be depopulated and there'd be no show. There's a reason writers don't have villains win.

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>you are the best of us kakarotto go beat him for us!

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Goku jobbed way worse than Vegeta in that movie, you boob.

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>Copeku
If it helps, Goku takes pride in putting his Prince over. Vassal among vassals.

>That filler scene with Goku and Chichi after he recovered from the heart virus actually wasn't a kiss
>Only Roshi knows what actually happened. but he didn't like what he saw.

They only make of themselves with their shit memes.

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HURIZA SAMA PLS HELP

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Jobjeta was never over. Not once. And literally by his words.

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Can't wait for MUI to unconsciously guide the back of his head to Vegeta's fists for 3-0.

based

All boards shit on Retardku.

>B-Bejita-sama, yamete!

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>does the undefeated against the MC dance
>Billy Cat Man is so moved he becomes Bra's nanny

>Goku's body is superior even if he isn't the same person
OH NO NO NO NO JOBJETABROS

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Goku did some "sweet kungfu moves" to hold his own against ssjblue fucking vegeta while in base.
Which pretty much killed any and powerlevel discussion.
That and the retarded canon ruining ending
Then the random retardation of oozaru in base form being the reason he just gets stronger and stronger without becoming the legendary super saiyajin...which comes later and is so fucking lame and uneventful he might as well have not done it.

tfw 2-0

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the following imagery depicts otherwise
>b-but bejita's FEELINGS!!!

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AAAAAAAH THAT HURT KAKAROTTO DONO

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our hero holy kek, this is comical tier sociopathy

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Oooooooh, about that...

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lol, no
youtube.com/watch?v=Y6qr6qxwOMY

In that timeline (had he properly kept these matters away from the main one he might not have need purged). He's just a loser that no longer exists nor even the things he fought for.

>AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE, SAVE ME GOHAN!!

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>Jobjeta plays the clown to get the liking of Beerus instead of fighting like a real Saiyan
Keep digging you grave more. No one expected you to do much better with Jobjeta, it's okay

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>hand-holding ritual unearned god ki
>still loses
Still, Bejita-sama's will be done even if Kekarot lacks power, he'll find another way to obey. Good dog.

>He's just a loser that no longer exists
You could say the same for Cell, Kid Buu, and every other villain who hasn't returned. Villains exist to lose, user. I'm not sure why Zamasu losing is supposed to be a big thing.

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Literally useless

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That's pretty gay senpai

>left standing over Goku's defeated self
>not put over
What's all this now?

why is it only "jobbing" when vegeta looks bad when goku is the main fucking character?

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>D-dad is so autistic

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>Wasn't in a fight
That was just the treacherous Jobjeta who couldn't win showing butthurt in unusual ways

Shouldn't Jiren be fleshed out as a character first? All we got is "I WANT TO BE STRONGEST" and now he's "SO THIS IS THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP... between two people that hate each other and are begrudgingly working alongside each other for the survival of their universe." Manga Jiren isn't that much better. He's still a big piece of meh that is retarded powerful for some reason.

>Goku tags out Vegeta, who was only in SSG and still on his feet
>proceeds to get clobbered
Agreed, Goku was pretty useless in that movie until he fused with Vegeta.

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>my legs bejita-sama! you're crushing my legs! yajirobe tasukete!!!

Goku literally and figuratively buried Jobjeta

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OP is a Jirenspammer. They're basically trolls who claim that he's the strongest and bestest just to bait Gokufags, Brolyfags, etc.

>Shouldn't Jiren be fleshed out as a character first?
But user, he had a TRAAAAAAGIC PAAAAST. That means he's an interesting character, right?

>Manga Jiren isn't that much better. He's still a big piece of meh that is retarded powerful for some reason.
Manga Jiren is at least likable, unlike emo sperg Anime Jiren.

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>Bejita-san, w-wait, I need a s-

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>ARRGGHGHHHHHH

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Well as it always turned out, Jobjeta's power was useless
>H-HIS WILL
Cope

>manages what neither Goku nor Ginyu could with that body
Not too shabby, tea bitch. If only the original could manage the same. Guy couldn't even defeat a Jelly copy of Vegeta with the help of his Prince and Nipples. Lost to the Vegeta DNA in Cell, too. Good taste with the ki blade move Vegeta came up with as Vegetto, but using Kamehameha? No wonder things didn't go to plan for you.

>this is the highlight of shitjeta's life

>out of respect

>ssj
>j

It didn't even end well for tea bitch.
See:

kek

based

>feels over facts
The Gokufag way. Subjective favored over the objective truth. Canon isn't good enough for their ilk.

whether you see them as wins for vegeta or not, the whole fucking point is that goku NEVER beat vegeta and never will.

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The original could've literally done it anytime had he wished it. He didn't think of Shitjeta as a rival worthy of his full power you see. Could've fucking demolished him with SSJ3 in an instant but just didn't want to lead him to suicide.
For a dead and beaten body, yes.

>moments later he cripples the hero

okay but goku wasn't the reason for the body being dead and beaten.

Vegeta is arc was literally what you describe. His whole arc is just getting to grips with the fact that he is inferior.

>Could've fucking demolished him with SSJ3 in an instant
Vegeta surpassed SS3 just because his wife got slapped and he was angry enough.

Vegeta > Goku. Cope and concede.

nice headcanon. fact still remains. goku was never the victor of their fights.

He kept crying to him and begging, wouldn't have been right leaving him unburied for GOODku

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Man those forms feel really cheap now, considering the manga ignored them so they weren't in any outlines.
So Kaioken being applied to a SS form remains a good Toei idea that isn't backed by Toriyama.
But Kawaii Vegeta has no fucking excuse, I want to know who came up with the idea to give him a throwaway transformation only to beat Toppo and continue jobbing against Jiren like he was doing the whole tourney.

>plays the clown
That's right. As usual, he put his minion to work even if said pauper couldn't win via combat, he knew the retards would resonate. Vegenius now has a new pet that doubles as a babysitter.

>6 months after that fight
>was just a momentary rage boost
Cope
He was inferior to him through and through. You didn't see Goku looking for Jackie Chan to beat him for the same reason.

Jirenscholars have explained why he is the best character at length many times.

>Has to transform to deal with Chadroly and even then runs like a bitch

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>But Kawaii Vegeta has no fucking excuse, I want to know who came up with the idea to give him a throwaway transformation only to beat Toppo and continue jobbing against Jiren like he was doing the whole tourney.

Toei wanted to give Vegeta something because Goku had Ultra Instinct

This makes me realize Kaioken should still be possible while in Ultra Instinct. Even assumming UI is a Mystic kind of deal that draws out your full potentai without needing to transform, Kaioken isn't a transformation. Kaioken overclocks you; it forces your body to be up to 20 times stronger than before. So it's possible even at max potential since it'll double, triple, and x20 that.

I guess Toriyama knows this and that's why he ignores it. Kaioken too was a way for Ultimate Gohan to beat Buutenks' ass, if he knew the technique. Even at full power you can force your body to get stronger with it.

gokufags are just complete shit taste brainlets. there's no reason to endlessly engage them.

>Teatard doesn't get it
His very soul and all he cared for got erased. His hated foes triumph and prosper elsewhere. He had a super wish, but managed to fuck up worse than Garlic Junior.

Vegeta has SSBE (or something like it) in the manga, so there's that at least.

But yeah, anime SSBE was pretty stupid in its execution. If Vegeta had been so pissed about Cabba and U6 being erased that he transformed, that'd be fine. But no, he just pulls it out of his ass when he needs to fight Jiren and Toppo.

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The forms have been shit since SSG user.
Anyway, they gave Vegeta SSJB FIERCE AND FABULOUS CRYSTAL SAIYAJIN POWER form because Goku can't carry the show on his own and when they try it shits the bed.
This Goku definitely can't carry the show or be allowed to have a majority of screen time.
He's a hateful fucking retard with no redeeming qualities outside of the writers throwing pwoer and suepr forms at him.

>I guess Toriyama knows this and that's why he ignores it. Kaioken too was a way for Ultimate Gohan to beat Buutenks' ass, if he knew the technique. Even at full power you can force your body to get stronger with it.

Why did Toriyama forget about kaioken after namek?

>Goku isn't even able to give Vegeta a real fight
The painful truth. Such is the suffering of the Nemesis.

>hmm cell is about to explode
>BUT THERE ARE STRONG GUYS IN THE AFTERLIFE WAKU WAKU

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Doesn't matter when it was. Gocuck's hard-earned transformation meant nothing before Vegeta's righteous wrath. Cope.

Now you're just trolling. Vegeta was up and fighting well into his SSG form.
>Chadroly
I like Broly too.

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>plants Vegetables in the hopes he would return
2-0 was never really in question.

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>San
Probably why he got a taste of the Flanderizer. Had he properly honored his Lord, Super Goku might not have been the threat he is to all life everywhere.

>His very soul and all he cared for got erased.
So he won't get cocooned in Hell like Frieza did, whoop-de-doo.

>His very soul and all he cared for
That's redundant. Zamasu was a narcissist; all he cared for was himself.

>His hated foes triumph and prosper elsewhere.
Same with Cell, Kid Buu, and all the other villains, except maybe Frieza.

>He had a super wish, but managed to fuck up worse than Garlic Junior.
It took Goku, Vegeta, Vegetto, Future Trunkas, two Supreme Kais, Beerus, and Zeno to take out Zamasu's various incarnations. That's not bad for a dude who was only SS2-tier.

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Did better than ol' long hair.

How am I trolling? Jobjeta was no match for Chadroly, he only kept up by transforming

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>db is nothin but fightin, hope u enjoy manchildren and tomboys
>no such thing as theme in db
>come on, yamcha's a cheater

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>over a decade later
>still falls for Cui level tricks
Unfit to be a warrior. He's lucky his Prince spared his pitiful existence.

>coulda, shoulda, woulda
But didn't. Cope.

>such reverence for his Prince
About as based as he ever got, frankly.

>ESL
Spicku.

>he only kept up by transforming
You could say that for EVERY FIGHTER IN THIS SERIES. Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, and Broly all have like ten different SS transformations each, and non-Saiyan characters like Frieza and Cell have also transformed several times.

"Keeping up by transforming" is just how DB works.

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>orders him to win
>obeys
Good pup.

>"2 arcs"
a movie and the manga don't count user
repost this after super comes back and the new villain appears

>. If Vegeta had been so pissed about Cabba and U6 being erased
Fucking why?
He's had more conversations with chiotzu then cabba. Hell he's spoken to cabba all of 3 hours fucking total and not interracted with the dykes at all.
Why would that cocksucker be upset by those losers being erased.

So you admit he is superior without having to go through how many arcs?

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>Frieza eliminated Toppo the Homo in the manga
>Frieza eliminated Dyspo the Dyke in the manga and anime
>Frieza eliminated Jiren the Gay in the manga and anime
Our Lord Frieza OWNS the "Pride" Troppers!

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>made a superior version of Roshi's 50 year legacy
>has the superior family including the main heroine
>better Earthling despite his upbringing
>always wins their fights
This is how AT hates a character.

God>4

Vegeta V soon.

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They must be reminded.

You know the answer to that already. No. Goku, Jiren, Vegeta, Toppo, and the Hakaishin are universe-level. Zeno and Tenshi are multiverse-level. Superman at his peak is fucking multidimensional-level. Not even the best of DB can compete with Superman.

They're his last chance to reconnect to the Saiyan race, even if they are alternate dimension counterparts.

Canon modifiers were problematic. Fans cite official garbage, but AT never pays stuff like x50 for SS any mind. Oozaru was removed with tails for the same reason.

>literally the only hit jobly got an vegeta and it did jack shit
kek

Broly's the LSS, of course he's OP. That's the whole point of the character, to be a giant unstoppable Hulk. I didn't see Goku or Frieza do any better against him.

Whichevs.

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That FPSS Goku could be killed by Semi-Perfect Cell on King Kai's world this way even if hit at point blank is clear and damning evidence he was skipping town on his promises to Krillin and Chi-Chi.

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>tfw 0 KOs by Toppo
>tfw Dyspo only kinda-sorta gets a KO when Gohan sacrifices himself to stop him
>tfw Jiren gets 5 KOs, when Master Roshi got 5 and Android 18 got 6
>tfw no KOs by the rest of the Gay Pride Troopers

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>gets turned into confetti then ashes by a bastard mutt twink

Doesn't matter, Jobgeta didn't do much either despite transforming
His power is immeasurable, his dick size is immeasurable
Keep seething

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>only for himself
Clearly you forgot something important.

>not bad
>super wish wasted on a clown's body
>fails completely
Sort of seems like a tit setting his wish standards so low, eh?

>goku is not superman
>makes backstory more like clark
>yet far less of a good person than he used to be
better to be hated than loved by this mad creator

goku never beat vegeta in a one on one fight. this is undeniable fact.

>Clearly you forgot something important.
A Ningen-free universe, whatever. Of course he didn't get that, then the heroes would've lost and there'd be no show.

>Sort of seems like a tit setting his wish standards so low, eh?
Compared to King Piccolo, who wished to be younger? Or Moro, who wished for his magic back?

Stealing the body of the strongest fighter you know, just so you can cheat with Zenkais to make him even stronger, and then merging him with an Immortal AU counterpart of yourself is a fairly together plan for a DB villain.

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plot armor. if vegeta beat him in 5 minutes it wouldn't be a movie.

>promises to Krillin
what did he promise him? I don't remember, I only remember that he would get a job to chichi

>more conversations with the Chinese vampire
Did he?

>orders
Begs*

>Vegeta repopulates his race in Mongol fashion

>gives goku loving parents so that he looks more like a piece of shit not caring about his family
based chadiyama

Already been surpassed

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how is goku superior exactly? vegeta has SSBE (or whatever the fuck it is in the manga) and goku doesn't and can't use UI.
and again, goku never beat vegeta in a fight.

>loses all he fought for
>whatever
Okay.

>wish for some faggot's body
>doesn't just wish his dream into reality
Tea bitch is small minded. Has penis envy for a canon dicklet, too.

I'm BTFO shitjetafags alone, give me a break
Because he is not an eternally asshurt fag like Fagjeta. A view that he himself will embrace later in a speech that proclaims Goku as superior
>spared
KEK
Shitjeta thought Goku was the best fit for the power is the main point. Cope

He promised to beat Vegeta in their next fight, but ducks it, gets forced into the rematch and jobs again.

>Doesn't matter when it was. Gocuck's hard-earned transformation meant nothing before Vegeta's righteous wrath. Cope.
>actual talent in training that allowed him to reach heights no one's seen before
>some rage boost everyone does
>hurr shitjeta is superior
Cope

how does goku have so many s-cells if he trains all the time?

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Gocuck trains hard to achieve a transformation
>Vegeta outdoes it in SS2 with a mere rageboost
>hurr Gocuck is superior
Cope

>can't beat vegeta
>can't kiss his wife
how do gokutards live with themselves?

>begs
Goku know his place and relished in fulfilling those commands of his most superior and godlike master.

>loses all he fought for
You could say the same for all the villains. Perfect Cell loses everything when Gohan destroys him and shows he isn't perfect. King Piccolo loses his ideal of a world of chaos and evil.

>doesn't just wish his dream into reality
This is a decent point. It would've made more sense if he'd used the regular Dragon Balls or something.

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He has a brother
He knows that there are saiyajin babies across the universe out there
He knows that he can use the super dragon balls to bring back his race.
He has access to the fucking super dragon balls

Yeah.
And he fucking indirectly killed his ass.
Shit he's had more heart to heart discussions with 18 and he absolutely hates her ass.
The fuck is this retarded teacher student bullshit with cabba about?
It's forced and fucking retarded.

all with just one woman no less. the queen is pretty incredible herself

shut the FUCK up

>ignoring that he couldn't get it on his own
>rage boosts are anything special
>goku rage boosting wouldn't have put him even higher
Goku against Zamasu had one, literally nothing. Cope
>this level of coping
Pathetic.

>various forms of coping while seething
Yeah, but when is 3-0?

When the previous number happen first.

Based.

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>He has a brother
>He knows that there are saiyajin babies across the universe out there
Well yeah, but repopulating the Saiyans of his universe would take a long-ass time.

>He knows that he can use the super dragon balls to bring back his race.
The Universe 7 Saiyans were murderous assholes. I think Vegeta knows that resurrecting them would be a bad thing. By forging a connection with the U6 Saiyans, he can fulfill what he feels to be his obligations to his fellow Saiyans without siccing a bunch of evil space pirates on the universe.

>The fuck is this retarded teacher student bullshit with cabba about?
He took a liking to the kid, what of it?

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>talent
>Other World access
Amusing. SKW was my favorite feat. Well earned ki sensing and passive Oozaru to help Weakku.

BEJITA-SAN, *SNIFF SNIFF* I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE...I BEG YOU, PLEASE JUST FUCK CHICHI ALREADY!

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Delusions. Head-canon, fanfics, etc.

>would make more sense with normal balls
They cannot affect change on the unwilling stronger than the maker of the dragon.

He has a gay angel wrapped around his wife's finger. He can make a superior version of the race with an improved edition of Nappa's plan.

You exaggerate, but the connection with Cabba is forever. That much is true.

>no argument
Concussion accepted.

>still salty about 2-0
Scrub, please. This isn't one of Goku's playfights. He got played. If you thought he wasn't going to job, you played yourself.

Vegeta knows that he's the most powerful pure saiyajin to ever be born in thousands of years and Kakkaraot is an anomaly.
When he resurrects the saiyajin race he'll be worshipped as a living god and his word will be absolute divine law.
Besides, 99.9% of his race were in the very low hundreds and needed the blutz wave to become useful as warriors.
Radditz is the most powerful low class saiyajin warrior, yes he completely eclipsed his own father in terms of power and even battle prowess. ANd that was from DECADES of hard battles and natural zenkai boosts
And he was weaker then a saibaman and sucked shit at martial arts.
Nappa and King Vegeta were both nobles of his race and neither of them were stronger or better fighters then a 12 year old Vegeta.

Understand? He's not a mutant like gohan, or some strange anomaly that's a combination of circumstance and luck like kakkarot.
He's the genetic elite noble prince of a race of genetically inferior losers who weren't even good enough to be foot soldiers.
And he gained all he has through effort and hard work.

But I digress.
Vegeta could ressurect the entire saiyajin race and they would all, every one of them, bow and scrape in his presence.
No one, not a single one of them would deign to go against him.
If nappa, a saiyajin who is stronger and a better fighter then 99.9% of his race is terrified of him then imagine what they would do if he showed off even suepr saiyajin level 1 or casually mentioned that he slapped frieza's shit sideways.

Keep telling yourself that

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>san
for this, your son will receive your wish. you will not be allowed to watch

why is vegeta getting embarrassed there

OH HO HO HO OH NONONONONO, AAAAAAARGHHHHHHHH, STOP, STOP! I-I WAS ONLY KIDD- GYAAAAAAAHHHHHHH...T-TOPPO-SAN, S-SPARE ME AND I'LL GIVE YOU 10, N-NO, 50 OF MY FINEST PLAN- GUUUUUUAHRRGGGGGGGHHHHHH...N-NO, I DON'T WANNA DIE, I DON'T WANNA D- GWWUAUUUUUURGGGGHHH, GOKU-SAN, B-BEJITA-SAN, ANYOOONE, SAAAAAAAVE MEEEEE!

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That's still an ENTIRE PLANET's worth of potential murderous monsters. Not to mention, even Raditz-level Saiyans would be capable of mass destruction of entire nations in their Oozaru forms. And what if more of them learn to use Gravity training? Vegeta can't keep track of them all. The U7 Saiyans are better left in the past.

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>even Raditz-level Saiyans
user, Raditz was basically an elite low level warrior.
The low class saiyajins honesty don't get stronger then raditz. few FEW would get 800-1k. That's about bardocks strength.

Secondly, they can GROW monsters that are stronger then raditz remember?
They can build robots that can handle raditz tier threats.
Saiyajins were considered traschan soldiers and only good for their oozaru form even by the shittiest of the frieza force members.
Shit, Cheelial(whatever green bulma's name is)can probably hold her own against an entire saiyajin squadron.

user, they are an entire race of loser low tier jobbers.
Remember those annoying little aliens from halo?
The little ones with shark fins on their back.
If the saiyajins were in the halo universe, they would be below those things in terms of use in battle.

Know what?
He can wish the entire saiyajin race back but make it so that they can't go oozaru.
There. Problem solved

How strong is Jiren's grip?

Weaker than Blanco Goku.

Exactly that, it's problematic to simply know your character can canonically get 10 or 20 times stronger in a second. It breaks suspension of disbelief a little and alters the whole scale, which Toei did. I'm pretty damn sure Vegito boosting himself with Kaioken could murderrape Beerus and Zamasu and Jiren and everyone else.
And then you get dumb stuff like Hit and Goku being on par... then Goku speedblitzes him with Kaioken x2.. and at the end Hit is matching x10 Goku. So that means regular Goku is shit.

dumb, he beat blancoku

Nice revisionism jirenshitter, Goku ran out of stamina after so many fights. Blanco had Jobren on his knees hopelessly

Whisu

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What the fuck do you mean ran out of stamina? he and frieza fought a tired Jiren at full power at episode 131

Jobren didn't beat blanco. Not hard to get

KEK

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based

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>TFW had to google to check what repugnant means
anons...

but he did

Blue children time.

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how much of dbs content have you actually seen?

24

If Goku lost SKW to keep Namek Saga tier KK for FPSS (sans making it stronger than USS or part of better gains), it might be acceptable. KKx10 being so natural basically nullifies the loss, but means x20 is effectively x2 wrecking his body.

>Vegetto
Goku's base being so much weaker with KK no more than doubling should help a little with your concern.

Were SS4 to be a thing, a Goku that already has SKW should be no stronger with it than when using SS3. Makes the form more for Vegeta who already had mastery of Oozaru and could Power Ball. The thing wouldn't scale its cost, so it would basically be free. Allowing for DB's celestial bodies to match our own, he could just go with ~3x the cost for Blutz enough (more still if working without a tail though that shouldn't work, but whatever) for the Golden Ape along the path to SS4 (quite the misnomer).

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Is there anyone who can put an end to his reign? He's unstoppable.

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can someone make posts that aren't utter pieces of shit?

>King Ox shorter than Yamcha

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Was bringing back Vegito a mistake?

I'm not too fussed about the potara retcon, but I'd say that he was back for so short a time it wasn't worth it.

Toyotaro stated that he brought back Vegito for fanservice. He wasn't supposed to ever come back.

Concession accepted.

Hey, UCB, it's kinda early for you to be in here pissing and moaning, what's up? Couldn't sleep because you just HAD to bitch about something like a whiny-ass woman?

Is Bejito still stronger than Gogeta?

If he is, not by much since Goku and Vegeta are relatively equal and wouldn't need to be suppressed by much

The "stronger than Beerus" line was referring to him losing an arm wrestling match, as a joke.

>i-i-it wasn't s-serious t-trust my headcanon

Worship.

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>ugly, weak, irrelevant thot
Nah.

I hate all you fuckers

Shut the fuck up UCB. Nobody cares about your womanly whining.

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>defeated by Goku
>killed by Trunks

2-0

>fan service
>further tarnished
To whom? Gogetafags?

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T-Toeichads...

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Gogetapatricians*

>came back stronger than ever both times

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>wouldn't need to be suppressed by much
30 years later and retards still don't know how fusion works kek
NEVER EVER has it been implied they can't access their full power, they only require to be at the same level to fuse.
Potara is better not stronger.

Sorry, typo. Gogetaniggers.

>came back both times
Non-canon. Cope.

>trash tier cybernetics
>now Trunks is my new son
King Cold is even more of a bitch than King Vegeta.

Gogetagods* Fucking autocorrect

Toyotaro made the suggestion of Vegetto appearing instead of Toriyama's original idea of two SSBlue's fighting at the same time to overcome him. Even in the manga where Vegetto being a waste of time actually serves a point, you can really tell he's haphazardly thrown into the story with little consideration beyond appeasing fans

Vegito was never meant to appear, he was reintroduced only because he is popular. In the original draft, Fused Zamasu, while extremely powerful, would have ultimately been defeated by the combined strength of SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta.

>S-Super isn't canon
This is some next-level cope.

Yes, but CHRISTaro knows how to properly implement fanservice into his masterwork

*Gogetadogs Fuck, I'm dumb

Gogetachads* I keep fucking up

Using him as a mere equivalent to teamwork while merging him is not good fanservice.

Nerfing, rather.

Gogetavirgins. When will we learn?

He sure as hell wasn't nerfed in the manga.

This is why fusions are shit. They exist for nothing but fanservice.

It's a fact. Not a legit or authentic work of the author in either medium.

Quiet, shitposter.

>GBF is what tears Zammy asunder
>hakai nearly wipes him out
>muh limitation retcon

>reminders of truth are shitposting
Cope.

Reminder that Goku has never beaten Vegeta in a 1v1 fight.

>m-my retarded delusions are truth
Quiet, dog.

>written by toriyama
>b-b-but someone else draws/animates it s-s-so doesn't count
i accept your concession

Trunks 1 shot Freeza and his Dad in half an episode

Krillin doesnt even get jobbed that fast

>didn't know how Toyo and Toei bastardize the vague outlines
No need to thank me. NEXT!

>this reading comprehension

Don't dare intrude upon the conversations of adults, mongrel.