Was Tetsuo a bad person?
Was Tetsuo a bad person?
Hairlet rage
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He was a product of society, so not really
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I wouldn't consider him a bad person per se. He was an orphan living in the worst part of a shithole with no proper adult guidance or role model who then got turned into a human atomic bomb that gave him some brutal headaches. I doubt any of the other kids would have fared better in his situation
>"hey, Yea Forums, I just watched this extremely well known and quite generic movie with pseudo philosophical themes and I just want to communicate this to you, but instead i'll feign wanting to start a discussion on a show that has been discussed to death, also I love sucking dick."
There, a more honest original post.
>Was Tetsuo a bad person?
Yes.
>Is this thread necessary.
No.
he was already balding as a kid, of course he was bad
>"it's not his fault, because [x]"
...before we continue can we finally and forever make it very clear that just because someone acts from an understandable and sympathetic corner that this doesn't mean they're not evil?
Oh yeah Hitler, I feel so sorry that a frenchman raped you in 1915 but have you considered not becoming a cruel monster? Thanks!
It really wasn't his fault though, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time
That. (clap emoji) Does. (clap emoji) Not. (clap emoji) Exempt. (clap emoji) Him. (clap emoji) From. (clap emoji) Law.
as bad as any other asshole, so not really but still a little
Have you even considered that people really are products of their environment.
"Oh yeah Hitler, I feel so sorry that a frenchman raped you in 1915 but have you considered not becoming a cruel monster? Thanks!" I take it you never took history in school
I don't think this is true at all
>quite generic
(you)
>clap emoji
go back to tumblr faggot
What are you on about
Now try to write like if you didn't suck cocks on a daily basis
He was bullied to the edge and lost it and then went though a mind altering transformation.
Id be fucking pissed off too.
I don't think anybody is saying what is did is EXCUSABLE you tumblr faggot. What he did is REASONABLE. If you honestly think being a living weapon of mass destruction wouldn't drive you mad and make you do bad things, especially if you've already had a hard life, then you are either lying to yourself or legit retarded.
>I take it you never took history in school
>what are hyperboles
>Have you even considered that people really are products of their environment.
Tabula rasa, John Locke tabula rasa and determinism. You don't have to teach me this.
However Sartre argues that as people have unlimited opportunity of growth and freedom, once they realise this fact (say, by unlocking psychic powers like Tetsuo) they are free to act the way they please. However acting in bad faith is acting according to false pretex, which Testuo is doing the entire time, acting as a villain that needs to cast judgement on the world that's wronged him instead of realising that he's free from his prior constraints and utilising his power for ends not smudged by the corrupted ego. Tetsuo is evil because he can't let go of his past despite achieving "godhood".
Apart from the soundtrack and animation quality the movie really is quite generic.
Lmao, embarrassing
Reasonable implies that Tetsuo rationally and reasonably considered all possible ways he could use his power and then chose to be a bully.
He isn't reasonable, he isn't justified, he's a maniac and a threat to society and imprisoning or neutralising him is the only thing that matters.
If we're going to dwell too long on criminals we will never sentence them.
Did they break the law? Yes ---> Organise a court hearing and sentence him to a fitting punishment.
No ----> Set them free or charge them a fee for a minor infraction.
newfags
who the fuck is gonna arrest a living nuke you retard? this is fiction, it's not a fucking statement on how we should run our government
I read the manga and I never quite understood his motives, but yet I don't consider him a bad person, at least completely, he cared about that little girl, and he somewhat cared for Kaneda.
It hit me hard that part when he begs Kaneda to save him, but he couldn't, and the ending scene when Kaneda is ridding and Yamagata and Tetsou are beside him ;_;
Movie was trash.
Calm down Steve Dikto
His character can be boiled down to that one nerdy/edgy kid who finds a way to get back at his bullies and instantly goes on an insane power trip. So yeah, kinda. He was motivated by his righteous anger towards society and his superiors, but he took it way too far.
>who the fuck is gonna arrest a living nuke you retard?
Have you seen the movie? They constantly tried to either incapacitate or to imprison him. What do you think the glow-in-the-dark blue niggers tried to do?What do you think those vats were at the end, containing body parts? That was the original spook.
Googling him he's the co-creator of marvel comics. I don't understand why I am like him, please elaborate.
He destroyed the city, possibly killing millions. He didn't care for the little girl as he almost fucking swallowed her whole. Kaneda can't save a self-destructive fucker like Tetsuo, not anymore.
I don't remember Tetsuo ever being bullied though, they clearly cared about him
a new akira anime when
His self-righteous anger towards society, mind you.
Tetsuo was a pussy through and through. He never could've been a hero or even an anti-hero if he wanted to be one. He ended up being a short lived tyrant and all of you trying to understand him are not understanding that he got what was coming to him. He's a pathetic mongoloid, nothing more.
You're right, apart from these things that are not generic it is quite generic.
Tetsuo comes off as a child going through a temper tantrum which I don’t want to label as bad but... get over it man you have powers people would dream of and you pursue destruction. On a lesser note did the psychic powers cause him pain in the movie. I remember he had to take certain drugs in the manga but were they painkillers or power suppressors.
I think near the beginning there was a scene between him and Kaneda where he tried to take off with K's bike only to get btfo.
Also his gf almost got raped, lmao.
He's a complete cuck. I'm happy that he died.
Kinda reminds me of Commodore Fork from LoGH
none of those glow in the dark niggas or anything else meant shit in the end, did it? the moral you should be getting isn't "we should arrest criminals!", the moral you should be getting is "we shouldn't try to play god"
He just wanted to be the one in charge. He was deeply jealous of Kaneda and wanted to lead a gang like he did. He didn't really have an end-goal besides be the one on top and keep it that way.
The Capsules treated him like a little brother and he was bullied in the orphanage he and Kaneda grew up in.
>He didn't care for the little girl
I remember him being devastated about her death, and apparently she tries to revive her, he obviously cared about her.
They did care about his well-being, but he didn't understand that and just wanted to do what he pleased. Thus, from his point of view, it always seemed like Kaneda was trying to put him down or boss him around.
hopefully fucking never, you know it's all MONKEYS PAW from here on out with any remake at all
He had a constant painful headache if he didn't take the pills
We shouldn't try to play God BECAUSE we are criminal. Individual human's judgement is invariably FLAWED and TYRANNICAL.
Does that mean anything? Every criminal cared about someone or something at some point. He's still a pathetic dog that needs to be offed behind a wall where the other dogs can't see him or maybe in front of all the dogs to set an example.
If he’s in constant pain then I’ll put him as someone following his (current) nature but ultimately a detriment to the stability of new Tokyo.
We are not inherently criminal, and that's not why we shouldn't play god. Being flawed and by nature authoritarian creatures is a good reason we shouldn't play god, but you're expanding the definition of criminal too far. There are unjust laws, user, and if you break those unjust laws you are a criminal. In some places it is against the law to collect rainwater or grow food in your own backyard. Please do not be foolish enough to believe that simply because something is criminal it is bad.
You should read his work, especially Mister A, I think you'd really like it because you're spouting the same sort of drivel as he was
>On a lesser note did the psychic powers cause him pain in the movie.
Expanding into a gelatinous mass of flesh and organs probably hurt a lot.
he was the least respected/most babied member of his gang. no one took him seriously and his life was generally shit, sometimes directly because of his weakness (having to watch his girl get groped then getting his ass beat by the same guys until his friends rescue him). Its pretty clear that he wants to be Kaneada, which is why he steals his bike, and why he wears a red cape when he gets his powers. so he was obviously gonna go on a power trip. not an inherently bad person, just a stupid, scared kid who was susceptible to going mad with power
Hitler did nothing wrong.
Kind of, but not really.
He's actually my favorite character from Akira.
don't fucking do this shit again
Yes but he's the way he is for a reason. It's worth pointing out hardly anyone in the story can be considered a good person
In the manga both Tetsuo and Kaneda are not good people at the start of the story. The story is about their divide becoming wider and wider as Tetsuo gains more and more power and kaneda becomes more and more helpless. Throughout the series Kaneda has to start learning to care for other people as people, and stop being such a snotnosed street punk, doubly so when Tetsuo destroys Tokyo and punches a hole through the moon.
So no Tetsuo was not a good person even at the start, and the powers just took what was already there and made it everyones problem.
Also there was kindve the whole thing he did with blackmailing girls into having an orgy with him for food, only to kill three out of four of them by making them OD on capsules.
The law has very little to do with right and wrong and you're a faggot.
Are niggers people?
Tetsuo was the nicest person in the world.
Remember how he protected Kaneda from those laser beams in their last fight? A true chad and he never even hurt Kaneda but just toyed with him despite being able to end his existence with a flick of a finger.
He also tried to raise poor Kaori from the dead, a true saint. When she got shot people kept attacking him and causing her body to get thrown around, poor Tetsuo had to keep coming back to her dying body and tried to help her despite being attacked from all sides.
Even stupid Kaneda attacked him with Kaori's body right there and Tetsuo purposely lured Kaneda out to get him away from her.
A true hero worthy of a red cape.
Yes?
If only the soldiers all carried lasers over ammo based guns. Fucking laser was overpowered as fuck
Tetsuo was a metaphor for post WW2 Japan
Kaneda was a metaphor for Imperialist Japan
>we shouldn't try to play God
He didn't try to play God you cretenic dog, the military tried to play God by drugging kids and turning them into weapons. What manga have you been reading?
>He's still a pathetic dog that needs to be offed
Ok rabbi Ishmael, keep writing your fanfic and arguing with straw men.
Fact is both Tetsuo and Akira were depicted as victims of a government military experiment and Tetsuo's lack of self control in moments was clearly depicted as a result of a drug and pain induced state in which a person cannot be held accountable even by actual real laws of the world you live in you buttblazed imbecile. The drugs and state he was in was in was not caused by his own choice to shoot up but was forced upon him by the military, he was drugged against his will and tortured. After that he took drugs because there was no other way to stop the pain, in other words it was all forced upon him by others.
You're a complete faggot with zero reading comprehension.
>He’s a complete cuck
He doesn’t fit the definition for that word in any way whatsoever.
>no no, it's not we that shouldn't play god, but the incorporeal military!
Tetsuo wouldn't have turned out any other way if he hadn't been drugged. Maybe he's not a completely bad person but he's still corruptible by power (and somewhat by drugs).
> turned out any other way
And how did he turn out again? You seem to be arguing against some unexciting boogieman character because both the anime and manga Tetsuo are barely what you'd call evil.
Stop whining over nothing, Tetsuo was never depicted doing anything genuinely evil or malicious. He only ever killed Yamagata and only because the dude tried to kill him over 10 times in a row. He finally parried Yamagata's shooting attempt with an attack of his own which killed the douchebag. He was retraining himself until then and gave the faggot enough time to run, even advised them all to fuck off himself and leave him alone. But they kept attacking him and Yamagata even advised Kaneda to kill him for no real reason except that he joined an opposing gang and kept intercepting their groups bikers. Even Kaneda disagreed with Yamagata that this is something deserving of death.
All together he barely killed a single soul. The only people he killed were either ones who tried to kill him themselves (the joker biker who died from a counter of his own deathblow) or labworkers in a moment where Tetsuo didn't even know what was going on.
>He's a complete cuck
He's the literate opposite of a cuck. His Aide complains how he never shared any of his girls with him and hates him tremendously for it.
>I'm happy that he died.
Actually Kaneda clearly says at the end of the manga that he feels Tetsuo is not dead.
But it's ok when we have 20 daily threads about how much you want to fuck the 12 year-old in KyoAni's latest CGDCT-palooza, eh?
Honest answer: Yes.
Unambiguously yes.