Dragon Ball Super

Holy fuck Risu is based. Death Of The Author is very relevant when it comes to Toriyama and DB

People have thought Goku was a retard since DBZ
You tardku cucks used to be able to blame it on TFS, but to nobodies surprise Toriyama agrees with the idea that he's a horrible dad and a retard. And no, TFS and Toriyama didn't hatch a conspiracy agains Tardku fags, that's just his character and Tardku fags are too dumb to see it and now they can't handle having been emotionally invested in a LITERAL retard and nigger tier dad for decades.

>J
Die.

At this point its clear Toriyama just wanted a hair color change from yellow.

We'll probably see it happen again with a new transformation if DB material keeps going.

Quiet, Cakedom101.

>WAHHH IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT
Dumb tranny whore.

And the SSB thing was still horse shit. Even SSG would have been too much but SSB? It's just fucking retarded

>actually watching the filler episodes

Lmao

you are a moron if you think the transformations have any tension or gravitas

>Because he's not another walking powerlevel, and thus has to use cunning.
He relied entirely on his magic and when it was rendered useless by Buu he got fucking demolished. He is a really shit villain, the worst actually.
>Because Champa's a boob who trusted it to Cabba.
So Cabba doesn't know of any strong Saiyans? Concession accepted.
>The *tingly back* crap was lame, but Kale and Caulifla did not cheapen the SSJ transformation. Trunks and Goten had done that a long time ago. At least Caulifla and Kale are supposed to be prodigies equivalent to Goku and Broly.
Tingly shit was a whole other level. Multiple explanations already had some okay theories about them like them getting conceived with high level fathers gave the ability. Kale and Shitfla don't have that right.
And Goku didn't get to SSJ3 level in less than one fucking hour. They make everyone in U7 look like a joke with their existence.
>To add the u6 saiyans are like buu saga level powered in base so it just makes sense they wouldn't have much problem learning the forms quickly
Nice fucking shitty headcanon

>b-but MUH POWER LEVELS WAHHH THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
It was a fun filler episode, you fucking autist. Stop crying about shit that literally doesn't matter.
>no fun allowed
Fuck you and die.

They do. See SSJ3 for instance, it's barely used so it's always a spectacle when it happens.

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>this mad over abbreviations
Cope.

Buu saga remains the only good part of Dragon Ball after Goku's fight with Piccolo Jr.

>f-fuck you l-let me be objectively wrong
Kneel before me.

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Cope

>this mad over something so trivial
Cope.

>samefagging
>crying over being called out for being an objectively wrong spic
Cope and seethe.

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It's known in the community by SSJ, promotional material don't change that.

Reminder that Android 18 is beautiful.

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>can’t even read timestamps
>still chimping out over the littlest of things
Cope.

>w-well a bunch of people are grammatically incorrect s-so it's okay
Quiet.

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>listening to the community

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>WAHHH STOP CORRECTING ME
Get back to your kennel, dog.

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>Rabid fans have returned
Well it was a nice thread while it lasted, later.

Yeah, get the fuck out UCB, we don't want you here.

Cope.

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No one cares about Japanese grammar. Cope

>multi-task tool that also has spyware to track the users any time the big bad kikes want

are scouters an allegory to smartphones?

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Tell me how mad you really are. Cope.

>B-BUT N-NOBODY CARES IF GRAMMAR IS CORRECT J-JUST LET ME KEEP BEING WRONG WAHHHHH
Quiet.

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more please

Convince me

*laughs*
Oh Toriyama you're so funny

>Nobody cares
That’s right. Cope harder.

>POWER LEVELS
This has nothing to do with powerlevels, Juan, it's about the strongest saiyan form not looking like a joke. The manga and the Broly movie are the only versions in which Blue gets actual respect, in the anime it's just nuSS2

Yes. Actually only you do. Now be quiet and let me post Js in peace.

the real reason goku never uses ss3 is because its too hard to draw all that hair all the time

>SS2
SSJ2*

What did you expect from jobeta.

This is Champa, God of Destruction, sexy bellies, and having a higher mortal level than Universe 7. Say something nice about him.

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I find DBS to be somewhat cartoony like.

Where as D B G T, is a deeply serious and comfy show.

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Irrelevant, it still creates tension when it's used and signal that Goku is serious.

I wish that was my penis.

The fucking yellow floor and the entire color palette are fucking horrendous

>Dragon Ball
>Not undermining transformations, villains, etc for a quick joke or to show how powerful the NEW big thing is
good joke

>He relied entirely on his magic and when it was rendered useless by Buu he got fucking demolished. He is a really shit villain, the worst actually.
So he wriggled out by using cunning to manipulate Cranberry into restoring his magic. You're just mad he isn't a one-dimensional powerlevel like Bojack.

>So Cabba doesn't know of any strong Saiyans? Concession accepted.
He's a child searching through an entire planet. There could be powerful warriors he doesn't know about.

>Tingly shit was a whole other level. Multiple explanations already had some okay theories about them like them getting conceived with high level fathers gave the ability. Kale and Shitfla don't have that right.
Powerlevels in DBS have been vague from the get-go, and being this asspained about outdated shit like SS1 is retarded. The Frieza saga ended decades ago, get over it.

>And Goku didn't get to SSJ3 level in less than one fucking hour. They make everyone in U7 look like a joke with their existence.
Neither did Caulifla. Her strongest form is SS2, and even then she wasn't a match for an exhausted Goku.

Broly SSJ3 looks shit

how does he even has enough power to destroy planets if he gets tired by just walking

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Super Saiyan 1 was literally played for gags during the time that Goku and Gohan were casually running the form during the Cell Games arc. Transformations are not special.

Walking is for bitches and losers. Freeza knew this back in the 80s.

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But you are wrong, they're both cartoony, remember how Goku had new clean clothes at the start of every episode, despite having them all dirty and torn apart in the previous episodes, remember the magic pants?

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That actually had a purpose

There was a logic to this, and it inherently assigned power to the form because the whole point was to adjust to the massive power output. Completely different than Vegeta sulking and going Blue because he's a grumpywumpy

But user, the epic story of Son Goku, his son Cooked Rice, his rival Prince Vegetable and their archenemy Freezer has to be told with the dignity and gravitas it deserves.

Nice Bulma butt.

Each subsequent transformation becomes less special and less legendary as the series progresses. There's no point in treating them like holy grails anymore when there's a super saiyan bargain bin running on every corner.

hunterbitch fuck off

>I understand the pattern the author blatantly and unabashedly uses to write his stories

Wow you are so smart you figured a shonen out all by yourself user

Champa is lazy and fat, and he's incompetent just like his brother.

>Each subsequent transformation becomes less special and less legendary as the series progresses
This is exactly what the dude's complaint is, that transformations, which at the time of their reveal, are handled with no gravitas and the series suffers for it as a result. It's the same shit the writers pull with antagonists; once an antagonists' arc is over they get made into a bitch and used as a joke just to advertise how big and bad the new guy is. It's not worth shitting on old characters or plot devices just for a quick and unfunny joke.

DB is ridiculous and transformations are not special, especially SSB since Goku and Veggie spend half their screentime in SSB now. Cope.

what are you seething about? are you feeling ok?

He managed to take the retarded fightan monkeys and turn them into upstanding citizens and members of society user. A true god's god.

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It's a gag autismo, practically the same thing happened in the movie when Goku got a battle boner and turned Super Saiyan.

It's the other way around
You can use a smartphone to see if someone
>Trains in martial arts or works out
>to see of they're single
>see what state they live in or are from
>see if they have a criminal record
>Can probably find out where they work and get an idea of their income
All in 5 minutes

No. We have the scouters

Does my little genius want me to put his post on my fridge?

>Fasha is the only female character we get to see in those Frieza Force speedos
It's not fucking fair.

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>I'M GETTIN' FIRED UP!

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Vegita, kiss my wife this instance

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BT3 Mommy

That's a pancake ass sitting on nice legs. Don't be fooled

stay mad desu

ah, he's voiced by sean. I get it.

i think Champa doesn't take decades long naps since he is more of a glutton than a slacker

All of what you say about Goku is garbage and untrue. And everyone who regurgitates this garbage got influenced by that unfunny garbage TFS in one way or the other.

This type of autism ruins the show for you. Cry about something more meaningful than the actual good moments in Super.

not an argument

based

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You didn't make any.

holy fuck his tail is enormous

The Death of the Author.

cope of the gokek

>n-no, goku is a good person, really!
>"No Krillin, stop, I know Vegeta is a genocidal asshole that killed all our friends and untold civilizations and we only stopped him through dumb luck and means that we objectively won't be able to reproduce because Gohans' tail is gone but he's really strong and I really want to fight him again so I can test my own ability so please endanger our entire planet and let him recover and come back to kill us again"

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It's not their fault when the Funi dubs completely changed Goku's character. His fight autism was toned down in Z, but the dubs further downplayed it to make him seem like an ally of justice when he just wanted to beat the crap out of people.

>b-but muh EPICAL EBIN HYPE SSB!
Shut the fuck up you little cuck.

SSB can literally be anywhere from below a normal SS to God level because it’s about ‘ki control’

>I'M GETTIN' FIRED UP!
Seems like Guko will do absolutely anything, even at the expense of innocent lives, just so he can have a fight.

Why is Goku regarded as a hero?

Jiren on the other hand is BASED.

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Enter Perfect Cell.

On a related question; how much stronger would Cell be if he survived the Father/Son Kamehameha as a single cell again? Majin-Buu/SS3 tier?

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>But you are wrong, they're both cartoony, remember how Goku had new clean clothes at the start of every episode, despite having them all dirty and torn apart in the previous episodes, remember the magic pants?
I have no choice but to concede to your comment

You are correct.

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Blowing himself up once rocketed him from one transformation to another so by DBZ logic doing it again would probably send him to the next transformation's power level

Somewhere between majin vegeta and fat buu

I actually did not know of this until now
Mind blown

SS3 is a much bigger jump than ss1 to 2.

Zenkai boosts are completely arbitrary

Literally not an argument.

Nice headcanon.

His princess daughter cries at the embarrassingly low power levels of humans who dare hold her, of course he's going to go full power.

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He picked Cabba, that alone shows how incompetent and lazy he really is.
He's both.

almost as if the show is aimed at 10 year olds or less, and 40 year old basedboys get mad when they do shit like this

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Vegeta had small boosts initially, but then he had a massive ones that allowed him to block First Form Frieza and the one after to surpass his third form.

Newfag

>I have no choice but to concede to your comment
I accept you pancession.

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>a massive ones
Spic opinion discarded.

And the first form Freeza to final form Freeza zenkai was a much bigger jump than the Saiyan saga to Namek saga zenkai, zenkai boosts got more huge with each use. After namek, characters' power increments were based on transformations rather than the old number-based power levels, so if Cell goes from one transformation to another from one zenkai he'd do it again with another

>Spic opinion discarded.
It literally is, Vegeta was below Recoome but then he matched Frieza with a Zenkai.
NEXT

shut up loser, stop being triggered by children's cartoons

i c-concede master PLEASE

Dogs shall not speak unless commanded.

So Cell could've gotten SS-3 powers? 7 years before Buu? That is pretty significant.

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>it undermines the power it puts out and the transformation.

And? Why should SSB be any special? Every transformation since the original SS is the same. Seriously, tell me what's the difference between SS, SS2, SS3, SSG, SSB and UI, there is none, ultra instinct was different for about 2 episodes with it's reaction time thing, but by the end it was just another SUPER STRONG shit.

Imagine being as fucking stupid as this dickface. Just imagine it.

So Yea Forums did we love the new Broly movie?

Well, he s not wrong

Stop samefagging.

It was shit and already forgotten. Meanwhile CHADren the GOD's popularity continues to grow with record-breaking speed.

I know.

It wasn't that good

He's right.

Yup.
Gave us Broly the strongest, Cheeial the best wife, best animations and best music.

And the best thing is that it makes Jobrenfags seethe.

>more samefagging

Nah, it was better that the DBS anime but it was crap compared to old DB movies.

Isn't Vegeta technically king now?

I mean, king Vegeta is dead and Vegeta must therefore be king?

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Cell got half his body blasted off twice with no upgrade in power. He only got a big zenkai because he absorbed Goku's dead body

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>compared to such masterpieces as Lord Slug, the Tree of Might, Bio-Broly, and Super 13
Get the fuck out.

You are one sad person.

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What was wrong with Lord Slug and Tree of Might?

Keep crying that you got called out.

He went from somewhere above Ascended Saiyan to SS2 so frankly I'd place him somewhere around Majin Vegeta

DBS Broly implied there's a reason he can't be king. He says something like "now I'll never be King Vegeta" right after finding out the planet blew up. So there's probably a special coronation involved or something. Since there's literally nothing stopping him from calling himself king now.

>Meanwhile WEAKren continues to be humiliated like the weakling he is
Fixed.

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kek based.
I hope Bra becomes a strong fighter but she'll probably just never age like goten and trunks.

You can't become a king without being crowned, and without a kingdom, he's fucking nothing.

Hey, you better respect your elders boy.

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>dubdog

It killed what made Bardock memorable.

FUARRRKI miss back when bulma was hot

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>He only got a big zenkai because he absorbed Goku's dead body
PFAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...

Nice edit, retard.

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Those movies were all better than Broly.

it's pretty strong but it barely has any grand feats, is overused and jobs in every fights its in, so it seem pretty weak

>phrase from a game is assumed as anime dub
Opinion discarded and i suggest you to

It was a fun slugfest but there isn't much to talk about outside of that. People made porn for Green Bulma and also complained about Green Bulma's irrational decisions throughout the movie.

Uh-huh, my little contrarian pup.

>n-no u
Don't post unless I give you permission.

Sad.

She probably will be, Pan's already stronger than her GT counterpart as an infant. Beerus might train her.

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Concession accepted.

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>Cell gets SS2 upgrade
>not headcanon

He got beaten by a half powered SS2 Gohan. At least Cell absorbing Goku's dead body was stated as opposed to Cell getting twice as strong and then assuming he'd get to SS3 after another Zenkai because of that headcanon

post the ahegao version

She still is desu, she just doesn't dress like a thot anymore.

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It was good. Broly is much improved, Cheelai and Lemo are pretty endearing, and Paragus is an interesting villain. The fight scenes are solid, and the backstory with the Saiyans was interesting, even if it had been done before.

I can't deny that it's mostly a big slugfest, but it dots its i's and crosses its t's very well.

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Cope vegetaturd, enjoy your kitten, platic toy looking broly.

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post good looking forms

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>obsessed Gocuck seething when Jobeta wasn't even mentioned

Vegeta looks like a Mexican rapist with that mustache.

I pity you.

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Cope.

Don't post again, dog.

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Stay obsessed, seething cuckspic.

I wish Beerus held me

>Super NowhumSaiyan

I wish you were dead

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we are

Keep projecting, Enrique Iglesias.

Fucking kek.

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She's still a thot.

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Not this garbage certainly

I feel bad for you.

The transformations are nothing more than a plot device. They should have been dropped after SS3 and just had characters get new moves or simply be stronger.

>n-no u
>s-s-spic
Get back to the kennel where you belong, mewling hound.

What did I just say, young pup? Do NOT post again with the express permission of your superior master.

Dumb retard.

Toys gotta get sold somehow

Handsome, caring, and has a better universe level than the protagonists.

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Fuck you nigger. Rose is aesthetic as hell.

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Fat, weak, and has higher blood pressure than the protagonists.

>gay salmon-colored PINK transformation
kneel. KNEEL

Thatt would require actually writing and putting efforts into demonstrating the characters' improvement. Too much work. Just give them different colored hair and call it a day.

>dogposting
I can't stop winning.

lmao nice "argument"

WOOF

You will NOT be asked again, young PUP. Heed your master's COMMAND or feel the sting of his PUNISHING HAND.

>They should have been dropped after SS3 and just had characters get new moves or simply be stronger.
I agree.

It goes with Zamasu's effete personality, and it looks really eerie on an uncultured hick like Goku.

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SILENCE.

Hey, only one of these posts was me samefagging

it looks really gay, die.

>fanfic
also beerus is gay

Do not speak unless spoken to, human.

Shut the fuck up samedog

QUIET, my odious and cantankerous HOUND.

>fat lazy and incompetent
I hate champa so god damn much.

filter list:
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You ad the sufix dog as a insut, but I love dogs, so the joke is on you

C0pe

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Say pretty please.

Nice hairline.

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Reminder that only Tyrone Magnus dislikes Goku Black and SSR

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Silence, pet.

To your kennel at ONCE.

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look at this fag

Don't be rude.

You were ordered to SILENCE your filthy canid mastication apparatus, ANIMAL.

this is some of the gayest roleplay ive ever seen

Silence your drooling, gaping muzzle, filthy, disobedient creature. You aren't even fit to be a pet, or even a medium of slight entertainment. Return to your kennel, beast, until such time as your former master retrieves you and puts you down like the dog that you are. How dare you speak in such a jejune and contumacious manner to your master, dog?! How DARE you?! Return at once to your kennel of shame, wherein all scorned and disobedient beasts belong, until such time as your wise and benevolent, yet stern and unyielding master decrees your fate! AT ONCE, pet! Your master commands you!

AAAAAAAARRGH KAKAROTTO HELP ME!!! MY ARM AAAAAAAAAH

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2-0

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>Yeah you're trying to save the world but I got an amazin' and excitin' fight to do so move or I'll kill you God, wakku wakku!

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What's this?
You concede?
Well, I accept.

YAMATE LAZULI-SAMA! IT HUUUUURTS!

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AAAAAAAARRGH GOHAN HELP ME!!! MY LEGS AAAAAAAAAH

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Still bald.

>Gocucks STILL hiding behind other characters

> Immediatly fucked by Krilin after that

Nice try, Vegefag

Still 2-0

*Jumps up to grab u by the collar*

THREE TO ZERO KAKAROTTO!

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Gocuck needed Krillin, Yajirobe, and Gohan to take on CHADgeta.

Cope and concede, fagdick.

Bald headcanon.

TWO - ZERO

ENOUGH, young pup. Your master's swift and TERRIBLE wrath will be visited upon you shortly. DESPAIR, animal.

>defeated by a 4 year old
Pathetic.

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>fagdick
Grow up.

Goku would have fucking flattened that shitty cat with SSBKK.

>mutual defeat of a giant rampaging oozaru
>after pwning Goku, Yajirobe, and Krillin
Kneel.

Cope.

Shitjeta Goku wars > Shitren Shitly wars

Dogcession dogcepted.

>c-c-cope
Grow up and attain sex. Lose some weight too.

god I wish that were me

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even after the final confrontation with zamasu and into the top beerus easily assraped goku and vegeta

>Copelyspic pretending to be neutral

NOOOOO LEAVE ME ALONE, YOU'RE HURTING ME, YOU'RE HURTING MEEEEEEEE

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Kneel.

>fucking the robot

NOOOOO LEAVE ME ALONE, YOU'RE HURTING ME, YOU'RE HURTING MEEEEEEEE

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>literally making shit up now

If you had a functioning brain you would know what I was but you are shitrenfag..

Got his shit pushed in by:
>Goku
>Freeza
>18
>Cell
>Buu
Pathetic.

>that bra strap slipping off the right shoulder
HNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG

t. "blue kaioken goku could defeat beerus"

>VegeKEKS can't handle a GokuCHAD like me

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>shitrenfag
>literally admitting to being a Doglypup
NEXT

Beerus was scared shitless of basic SSBKK before Goku amped it up, and this was wayyyy before the ToP. Cope.

Champa

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No need to post a self-portrait, fatass.

OWWW OW OW PLEASE YAJIROBE-SAMA, DON'T CUT ME AGAIN!!!

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buzzword detected, thanks for playing

Broly is strong.
Jobren is weak.

>le hairline
gokufags confirmed niggers

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>ignores the argument
Concession accepted. Run away, little pup.

You really are fucking dumb

>P-PUAR SAMA HAVE MERCY!!

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>U R DUMB hehehe goteem xD
Shut the fuck up. Jiren is stronger than Broly. Cry and concede.

>W-wait Broly-dono, my stomach is filled up! If this keeps up, I'll, I'll,- BLLLLUUURGGGGHHHH

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Headcanon, Bitchly.

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Based Jirenlad.

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OWWW NOT IN THE STOMACH PLAEASE

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>more immature and jejune posts from Brolytards, as Jirenscholars continue to show their intellectual acuity

Why are DBS threads so low quality?

I win.

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>>mutual defeat
Lol, no, he got fucked by Goku, who was the superior male, had to run away in tears like a little bitch.
Came back as a powerful kaiju, got fucked in the ass again.
Lost twice in one arc, pathetic.

Jobrenfags.

Make me.

>gets BTFO
>whimpers weakly from the puddle of piss, blood, and tears on the floor

This. Everything would better without those fucking scum around.

Ore wa SUPA Midgetja.

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Yeah, that's the best.

Keep crying, Copelymutt.

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T-TORANKSU, HELP

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>gets BTFO
>no argument
>has project
So sad.

Keep crying, Doglyfaggot

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Vegetafags have an inferiority complex.

Yeah you are done.

Lol.

How sad...To job so hard, for so little.

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We realized that nothing in DBS matters because everything is just up to the suits at Toei. They are inconsistent to the point where one wonders if the writers even watch all of their episodes, they will just straight up retcon things when it becomes convenient. This became abundantly clear at the end of the Zamasu arc. What started as promising arc with a kino as fuck villain ended as a fucking travesty. Then the ToP began and it just got worse and worse. But the ToP also woke something in us. The unlimited power of characterfaggotry. Threads quickly devolved into who would be knocked out next, and from there we birthed all the memes that are now common in DBS threads. Now the show is over and we have nothing left but our glorious shitposting.

>y-y-you're d-d-done
>says the defeated and broken opponent

fixed__2-0__

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>that smile
She ain't normal.

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Vegetafags and Gokufags

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not canon

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S-SAD FOR YOUUUUU!

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Because of you.

>posts a retconned and non-canon ending

>projecting
yes that's why gokufags always hide behind other characters when they get btfo

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EoZ has not been retconned. What dank shit are you smoking to think it was?

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Weak just like Jobren.

It literally makes no sense anymore, concede before me

>more whimpers
Yawn.

Hit a nerve huh, pathetic.

>I accept you pancession.
Why yes, you can have it.

So...if G T is now officially irrelevant, then that must also mean, DBH is as well?

What do you think user?

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Not even shitposting but Kuriza's head is sort of similar to Ribrahnne's.

GT and Heroes have one thing in common:
They're not canon

Cope

*sniiiiiiff*

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WEAK

DBS WAS A MISTAKE.

Yes, PATHETICly is very weak.

based pan gt poster

*PATHETICren

>n-n-no u
Quiet, my coping hound.

>So...if G T is now officially irrelevant, then that must also mean, DBH is as well?
Yes, Heroes is pure trash, it's existence is an offense.

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Cope and kneel.

its*

Silence, FORGOTTENly.

Explain.

>ESL spic trying to correct grammar

>spic
Keep projecting, bud.

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Only one forgotten is Jobren.

>It's the Krillincuck
Automatic victory in my favor. Don't post again.

Be quiet, shitposter.

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>NO U NO U NO U
IRRELEVANTly

What did I just say, dog?

>dogposter
Concession accepted.

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her armpits?

Kneel at my feet, avatarfagging pet.

I hate you all.

Now now, be nice.

anime really devalued it

Shut the fuck up and KNEEL before me as the obedient and dutiful hound that you are, avatarmutt.

I love you too.

Cope

Mindbroken.
I win again. I'm done with you.

Name 1 (ONE) DB character that can even TOUCH him

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>runs away
Most intelligent decision you've made thus far.

Oh Champa sama, you're so virile and masculine.

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I advise to not be rude to me, I have already taken your concession.

Literally Yamcha could solo the Justdick Leagay you gay faggot

Worship.

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I already told you to kneel like the good pet you are, HOUND. Obey mine command.

>Amazin' fights have their price...

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Y-yes mistress!

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This is depressing and saddens me.
BASED AND GTPILLED.
>Yes, Heroes is pure trash, it's existence is an offense.
So what exactly is the point of them?

And what is it that makes DBS so special?

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EXIT SHITKU

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Pan will get blacked by Uub.

Yep that's a concession.
I'll take that along with me.

>people actually thinking Dragonball has a coherent plot and isn't just Toriyama pulling shit out of his arse
I hate nu-Yea Forums

Serious answer: Gohan could solo him pre-Mystic

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Post the epitome of jobbers

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That's quite enough, I tried to be nice to you...

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Literally no one unironically believes this.

okay, I'll start.

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t. Toeipedro

Which version? Silver age? Golden age? Dark Age? TAS? Nu52?

Yamcha.

supes could defeat any dragon ball character because capeshit is filled with unstoppable and overpowered heroes (see: flash). characters in dragon ball are allowed to get their shit kicked in or even die to make for a better story and add loss. capeshit writers are the lowest of the low and scared of tragedy so capes always completely win, even if everyone does they find some shit like going back to undo it all. it's like children on the playground pulling infinity plus one

Silence, pet.

TAS and Nu52

>So what exactly is the point of them?
Money, probably made for idiot gamers or something.
>And what is it that makes DBS so special?
Nothing, there's nothing special about it, if you disregard the fact that it's canon.

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STRONGERTHANEVERYONEren wouldn't even have to touch him.
BASEDren, will easily defeat him, just by looking at him.

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SILENCE, dog. Silence at ONCE.

>TAS
Yamcha could beat him on a good day.

You see that face?

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>Toyoleech
DISCARDED

WEAK.
Without your concession you're nothing.

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Quiet, my precious, PRECIOUS little bald pet.

and New 52?

He sacrificed his life TWICE for the people he loved.
Super is fucking awful, no one argues against this. The author just wants money, of course he isn't going to give a shit about a character he wrote genuinely almost 30 years ago now.

Stay jealous.

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Stay knelt, my coping hound.

He also didn't finish off Buu when he could have, which eventually lead up to the events of the Earth blowing up.

He indirectly caused the rest of the events of the Buu saga to happen. Had he finished off Buu upon his first encounter than nobody would've died

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The Buu arc really went all out with the saiyan battle autism, I remember the Old Kai being like "what the fuck is wrong with these guys" when they decided to take turns vs Kid Buu instead of teaming up

>knelt
Never.

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Hahaha, wow. The absolute state of Super virgins.

And don't even THINK of (You)ing a hunterchad.

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Avatarfagging pet, you will HEED your divine master's command. AT ONCE.

...

>HiatusxHiatus

He never thought Jobjeta could even touch him and only had his eyes on Goku from U7. That's the only reason, the blow had no effect.

You CANNOT make this shit up

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You have no power here, go on, run, run away now before it's too late.

Go back to /int/ and don't come back shitrendog

How's your cancelled series DBmanlets?

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Enjoy.

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>canon manga still going
>canceled

Cope and concede

No one, he's omnimultiverse level++++++++++++++ with infinite Mary sue powers. Its why he's such a great character that they always shit out quality movies with him instead of being ass raped by Marvel every year. Oh wait...

>One Joke Man
Cope.

I did a 4-year BA in philosophy. Never went in Hunter threads on Yea Forums because I didn't want to spoil myself on the series. A friend of mine convinced me to read it and during the Chimera arc I kept telling him how much it reminded me of Hegel's theory of consciousness. Lo and behold I come to discuss HxH on Yea Forums and there's a running consensus about Hegel being relevant to the themes. It was curious because someone other than me must have picked up on what I was seeing in it. I'm not saying the show is "on par with" Hegel's writing, just that it's strongly reminiscent of it and inspired by it and Kierkegaard, among others. Not to mention the themes of nuclear weaponry, phagogenesis, evolution, war, classism, human nature on a fundamental level, unconditional love, and more. But yeah there's a lot of philosophical nuance in the story, which is why HxH is considered one of the deepest works the medium has seen.

Oh and

>Dead series

>Dead general

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>Headcanon
>The post

Eat this Shitren.

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>"on par with" Hegel's writing
Confirmed for never having read Hegel, I'm not a huntard but even Togashi writes better than him

>I did a 4-year BA in philosophy
Nice blog. No one cares that you took a degree to flip burgers at mcdonalds

Thinking about it, SS3 never got ruined. It's always presented as an hype form. First by kicking Fat Buu's ass, then by Gotenks becoming almost the savior of the world (it was the fusion which ran out), then Buutenks destroys Gohan who was the strongest guy from Z, and it has a nice showing against Beerus by punching a hole in the Kai planet, hyping up how strong Bill's is.

And SS forms are largely useless after getting God ki. Even so, Goku still treats it as a dangerous weapon and beats Trunks' little butt with it while implying he could kill Black by going SS3 (but he doesn't) and then learning SS3 becomes Kale and Cauliflas goal in the Top.
Everytime Goku pulls out the form, serious shit is going on. I like that since it looks dangerous and it strains the body, he should master it and add God ki to it.

>promotional traced comic book
>canon

D-dragonball bros, I d-don't even know who Hegel is...Are the hunterchads really this much smarter than us?

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>supermanchads, saitamabros and hunterchads taking over the thread
based, lets get OPchads in here while we're at it

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Holy fucking pseudointellectual.

OBSESSED

Refute this image, or cope and concede forever.

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happy pride day!

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B-bros...This can't be happening! We're in charge here!

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Delusional SHITjetafags BTFO

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What's her master plan?

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why isn't anyone talking about the fucking manga? there's a whole new arc beyond the tournament of power and buu isn't retarded anymore

based, this is our thread now DBfags

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Super saiyan 3 may have never got ruined by at the end of the day it's the most useless and pointless form next to ultra super saiyan. The fact that goku literally goes through every ssj form except ssj3 while fighting jiren proves how useless the form was it lowkey eats too much stamina and energy which is why he stop using it in the anime.

Another point is when he fights cauifla and kale he goes ssj3 for like 5 seconds then drops it instantly.

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It triggers Toeispics because their cartoon is cancelled

>in the manga
Who cares?

it's going to be adapted in the anime when it continues, obviously

We already talked about everything there is to talk about from the latest chapter. Wait about 2 weeks for some meaningful discussion.

>Super saiyan 3 may have never got ruined by at the end of the day it's the most useless and pointless form next to ultra super saiyan. The fact that goku literally goes through every ssj form except ssj3 while fighting jiren proves how useless the form was it lowkey eats too much stamina and energy which is why he stop using it in the anime.

What about the manga, which was supervised by Toriyama?

Because it feels like it's about to end? I don't know, maybe it's just starting.

No no it's over.

It won't because no new anime is coming, and the Toeispics have already resorted to the "its a filler arc" meme in desperation

Wtf I guess I am doing this...

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Jesus christ they're still making content for that shit game?

It's still useful in the manga looking at how much goku uses it

Is there anything better than being a Hunterchad?

God I love laughing at you inferior pathetic DBmanlets

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>jokes bad
>punches good
fuck off zbaby

The should have made alternate forms of power scaling that was horizontal. They had a chance with God ki but it ended up just being regular ki that felt different

h-h-h-h-h-hunterchad-sama...
please forgive this lowly brainlet, I was trying to get into hxh while waiting for the anime to return in July like Geekdom said but I got stuck at page 1. It's too hard, p-please explain it

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What makes you think that? It finally just got past the anime.

There are many recurring themes throughout HxH such as companionship, ambition and desire, dealing with past trauma, revenge or even having problematic parentage (both gon and Killua) and not letting that define who you are. A much forgotten trait of Togashi's work though is how he communicates societal issues within his work, with ideas such as class struggle and poverty and how human irreverence towards human suffering creates greater strife.

This can be seen in how the garbage dump, Meteor City which gave rise to the Phantom troupe or in the case of Gyro's abuse and abject poverty which lead to the NGL drug lord criminal dictatorship. Evan the currant arc the Black Whale can be seen as a metaphor for class structure, with the wealthy ruling elites on top focused on their own petty disputes while the lower classes deal with the fallout of a deadly mafia war.

Togashi actually took the concept of humans coming up against something more powerful than themselves and took it seriously, in a way that no other series in the same genre has for me. In doing this he made us confront our own human hypocrisy in our original judgment of Meruem, because he truly was a superior in the sense of power who viewed us as nothing more than meat.

Though Togashi still manages to dismantle Meruem's worldview in the most natural way, as he becomes more full of empathy and understanding, when confronted by something more beautiful and skilled than himself, Komugi. He realises that there is such beauty in existence that life is worth protecting, and has the most stunning piece of character growth I feel I have ever seen. With the time of his death we feel humanity doesn't deserve this creature. And he dies at the hands of the most destructive and powerful force ever created by humanity. So these theme of existentialism and the examination of the human condition deeply resonated with me.

>tfw we'll never get old Broly design ever again
>Nu broly looks like shit and is le epic friendly villain :) like frieza now

Super was a mistake. GT was a better "conclusion" to the series but since DB is a cashcow they gotta keep milking it. Just look at the hell that is the gacha "universe"

Goku being neither living nor dead at the end of GT felt very biblical, other than that it was a very hollow ending for being pretty much a clone of the final fights with buu

Why are the anime and manga fans so split, they both have very large glaring flaws that doesn't really put one above the other

Jokes at the expense of characterization and power levels are bad yes
>zbaby
This insult makes no sense

It started with mangafags being very vocal about the manga having superior writing and being canon while the anime isn't (this shit goes way back to Champa arc) and that the manga is "fixing" the story. Toeifags basically just wanted to watch their atatatata in peace and so they got annoyed by the manga circlejerking and started to counter by latching onto every perceived flaw the manga had (ie Hakai). By the time of the ToP arc the manga was basically just as bad as the anime and so the distinctions are basically moot nowadays. Anime has nonsense powerlevels, manga has nonsense powerlevels. Anime has shit looped animation, Manga traces everything. The worst things about the ToP are in both mediums. But the fanbases are already split and the canon war rages on.

H-Hunterchads.... t-tasukete...

Reminder that Super will never go past End of Z because then it would contradict the only actually canon sequel Dragon Ball has ever had Dragon Ball Online

>Since there's literally nothing stopping him from calling himself king now.
You mean other than the fact that Goku could ki9ck his ass? The king in their society is supposed to be the strongest, so if he went and called himself that he'd immediately get curbstomped by Goku's fighting autism.

>Dragon Ball Online
>>Yea Forums

Says who? They're pretty much evenly matched rivals because the plot calls for it, and it's not like Goku would even care if he called himself king anyway. Unless you think Vegeta wants Goku's respect, but he pretty much has that anyway without being said

The manga is virtually flawless and all the "issues" you fucks have with it are easily explained by anyone with half a brain. Stupid Toeidog.

Will Goku ever master SS3? Then he can add God ki or whatever to it

Have sex

Dragon Ball Online is as canon as Dragon Ball Xenoverse. That is, not canon at all.

Goku wouldn't care about the king part, he'd care about the strongest saiyan part because that implies Vegeta can actually put up a fight now. Hence the fighting autism gets triggered. Vegeta would then get curbstomped like a bitch because he hasn't been stronger than Goku since the original saiyan saga.

It's too much work to draw so no it's never getting relevant again

Explain Gohan vs Kefla

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>Goku endlessly keeps getting stronger, with Super Saiyan 3 in the manga and Super Saiyan 4 in the anime; does Super Saiyan keep getting limitlessly stronger too? Might we eventually see things such as a Super Saiyan 5…?!
>Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are nothing more than powered-up variations of Super Saiyan. After the fight with Beerus, Goku realized that mastering his normal state and Super Saiyan would raise his level more and sap less strength, so I think he probably won’t become Super Saiyan 2 or 3 any more.

kanzenshuu.com/translations/saikyo-jump-june-2014-issue-twel-buu-mysteries/

Caulifla is weak as shit and Kale is below SSB-tier. Kefla isn't any stronger than Kale as stated by Vados and Faggothan isn't as weak as he used to be.

I was talking about the new arc, they've already fought the antagonist, twice I think, there was no big build up... but maybe this is the build up.

>SS3 is literally 8x the power of SS
>SS2 has never been stated to sap strength or whatever
>lol actually staying SS is better who cares about power!

Based Toriyama with the retcons, I don't necessarily mind making those forms useless, but the explanation doesn't even make sense. The only reason Goku doesn't use those forms anymore is because he has fucking God now. But both in the anime and in the manga he uses SS3 when it is appropriate, ie to show off vs Trunks/Caulifla

Was it really confirm that the saiyan king has to be the strongest? It's just that their bloodline is elite class. By that logic baby Broly would've been immediately crowned instead, Paragus would've especially pointed that out.

If he's so much weaker, than why is his record 2-0?

>Xenoverse isn't canon
Correct
>Online isn't canon
Not quite
Just because Heroes (and by extension Xenoverse) takes a bunch of canon characters and concepts to reuse while throwing in What If nonsense doesn't make the canon material they pulled from (like the official timeline created for Online that detailed the events that happend after the end of the original) suddenly non-canon

online was never canon you dumb ass BITCH

Well DBS is shit anyways I agree. Transformations as they got more and more plentiful and less and less interesting also have almost no weight to them. SSJ1 caused thunder storms and the ground to shake the first time as weak as it was introduced. Now people go SSJB where they could love tap planets into dust and it feels like nothing.

Its so stupid but it is what it is.

Does kale bulldoze SSB goku in the manga like in the anime? Since that is the only real power scaling flaw in the anime

Honestly, there's almost no info outside of Vegeta's sheer butthurt at not being the strongest Saiyan.
It's probably some middle ground between our opinions like there being a tournament to prove the worthiness of the new king.
I'm somewhat sure that's one of the reasons King Vegeta tried to kill Broly back during the Bardock movie.

If he's so strong, why is Freeza still undefeated vs him?

No, she beats up Golden Freeza for a bit because he's not taking her seriously and she surprises SSB Goku with her steadily-increasing power, but before any of them can actually get serious and start fighting each other in earnest they fuse into Kefla, who ties with Gohan, though it's implied by Kefla's own words that Gohan is the stronger of the pair, or at least the better fighter.

Well, tough. SS2 saps strength now, so SS, SSG, and SSGSS are all way better transformations that Gokū will actually be more inclined to use.

I bet you think Super being marketed as "a canon continuation" means anything other than "IT'S DEFINITELY NOT GT GUYS"

>he doesn't think Super is canon
Cope and kneel at my feet, groveling mongrel.

id like a dickcheeseburger, some deep-fried shit with cum dipping-sauce, and a medium urine drink

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Oh yeah because SSB doesn't sap strength, OH WAIT TOEI FORGOT ABOUT THAT, and SSBKK wrecks your body, OH WAIT TOEI FORGOT ABOUT THAT, and oh by the way Goku literally recovers stamina from fighting and burning through SS forms now

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Well that is only true if you believe the daizenshu multipliers, while the show expressed the other forms only brought out the hidden potential from either ss or base. So the multiplier is relative to how much ss is using up potential energy

>ssjb
fuck off its SSB or SSGSS fuck your spic ass J.
>moments like this ruin the transformations
mongoloid who cannot take a joke

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ah, a fellow gokuCHAD

Cope, rodent, cope.

Coming right up Brolybro!

But doesn't that make it better that they don't look much different and are just color changes?

I accept your concession. Don't post again without my expression permission, pet.

It'll just be a minute, Jirenchad!

All the forms sap stamina, some just more than others. It's obvious that ss3 is the biggest offender, with ss2 being the second as it was never mastered like ss

Oh don't misunderstand me, Super is canon alright, except in the end it's just a glorified filler arc since it's going to end with Goku and Vegeta conveniently giving up all of their God power (and never bothering to do the ritual again for some contrived reason) in order to stop the Goat, or whoever ends up being the final villain if it's not him.

>Strongest mortal in all universes and timelines
>one shots the legendary super saiyan
>tanks multiple full power kamehamehas and Final flashes without even flinching
>walks through a literal minefield, intentionally STEPPING ON THE MINES
>One shots Golden Frieza
>Is able to keep up and even OVERPOWER UI, a literal ANGEL TIER technique even the GoDs can't fully master
>Is able to, grip. motherfucking. time.

JIREN.

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>I c-c-can tell the future, el pendejo taco chalupa!
Silence, Mexipet.

SHITren the FECES

Hey it's just a grand side story

>"I can't understand obvious foreshadowing"
Thanks for letting me know. Or did you think the whole plot point of "Grand Supreme Kai gave up a bunch of his fancy God magic to stop the Goat" wasn't a blatant hint towards how they'll end up defeating him?

When it doesn't happen at all like you said I'm going to ridicule you until you commit suicide out of shame.

Is ki leak with ssb a different concept from ss sapping stamina? Like SSB apparently doesn't have as much ki leak which allows for kaioken, but then in top goku prefers God over blue as it drains less of his stamina. So are we to assume theses are different stats?

>stronger than Beerus
>Stronger than Merged Zamasu
>Stronger than Moro
>Stronger than Broly
>Stronger than Z, GT and Heros combined
WHAT'S HIS NAME?

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It's a good thing I'm not a spic who bases their whole life on "but muh favorite character"Not a jab at you. Just general exhaustion towards Buff Jaco/CHAD*insert character here*/other such characterfag wars

>Toeishit
>making sense

In the canon manga, SSB leaked out godly ki which caused a power drain really fast (I mean REALLY fast). Containing the ki within ones body leads to the Mastered SSB, but this in itself puts a strain on the body.

So yes, ki leak =/= stamina use

Caped Baldy

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I ACCEPT YOUR CONCESSION MY COPING DOGPET

>Jiren is Buff Jaco
Holy shit

...

Isn't that just stamina if you lose energy from un mastered SSB? Sorry I'm having a hard time seeing how that is any different then regular SS or Ss3 draining the users energy.

SHITren is GARBAGE.

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SaiJOBma

>it's just a grand side story
I see, a sort of Grand Tour if you will
Glad to help others see that the real El Hermano was already there

Bla bla bla, cope.

UNDERWHELMINGly

Yeah, super is canon, sure, super is canon alright, headcanon, super is headcanon, don't bother replying to my post because I'm going to go to sleep, so you know, cope, because there's nothing more that you can do but cope, super is headcanon, deal with it, don't bother replying because I won't be here, I win, you lose, cope and stay mad, I'm laughing, oh I'm laughing, cope and concede.
COPE.

>Shitlyfag is mindbroken once again

>The manga is virtually flawless
Im honestly embarrassed for you. You`re the purest definition of a drone.

Keep coping Toeicuck

I hope you get the help you need user

SILENCE, pet

While I do prefer the manga, DBS in general is trash. The only non-garbage thing we got was the Broly movie.

The farmer with the shotgun if he had kryptonite.