NATURE GOOD

He killed millions

Looks like a young Ted Kazynski doing his best H. P. Lovecraft impression

MUH HANDICAPPED FRIEND

So is Last of the Mohicans, Fern Gully, Last Samurai, Pocahontas, and Avatar.

Miyazaki was an asshole. That thing was horrifying, as intended.

I agree with him.

Where are you guys getting the "technology is bad" angle from? He never says that in his films.

>Mentioning Avatar but not Dances with Wolves

FUCK I knew I forgot one.

I mean that's literally what majority japanese beleive when it comes to shinto. They have very weird distinction between things in the world.
Like how they believe how everything in the sea is just up for grabs spiritually and physically because some dude that might've been holy said so.

who knows

dude loves his fucking planes, arguably one of the most wonderful examples of technology

youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc
For me it's this one

He even hated jeans

>nature bad
>technology good
What anime do this?

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ALMOST NAKED LITTLE GIRLS GOOD

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>Iron and guns in Mononoke
>Advanced technology from Laputa in CITS
>Titan monster in Nasiga

humans

Dont tell me you wouldnt want nature to take over the world these days
Anywhere I look ideologies and habits I dislike are growing stronger and no one but sudden natural catastrophe can fix it

did he ever meet with masanobu fukuoka?

based boomer BTFOing all these zoomers

Did you see their "demo" it was terrible.

The high IQ take is that because humans are part of nature, and technology comes from humans, technology is part of nature.

Pointy sticks.

I would exclude technology that's detrimental to nature itself, but the rest is spot on.

that tv clip of Miyazaki bashing game designers who used AI technology was sad to watch desu. He should just die

>implying nature isn't detrimental to nature itself
Ever heard of meteors and supervolcanoes?

Read his manifesto. It hits way quite close to home.

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Fuck Technology

Fuck War

Abd most importantly fuck the angel loli

vimeo.com/176099556

I never said it wasn't, but we can't really control things like that, now can we?

We could if we had the technology to do so.

>Blimp and large cities in Kiki's delivery service, everyone that is technological is an asshole compared to kiki who is a traditionalist who is praised for her rustic ways, the artist is also rustic and is kiki's mentor.
>Howls moving castle has the subplot of the destruction of warfare and the advancement of technology that brings fire and death to the main city, where the main protagonist is another rustic girl who charms everyone with her traditionalist values.

It might not be TECHNOLOGY BAD but its definitely ADVANCEMENT BAD, RUSTIC SIMPLICITY GOOD

What about planes?

He doesn't seem to have very much love for planes that aren't biwing rotary craft. As soon as it advances to the point of being jets then they turn into bomber planes carrying firebombs.

This is definitely one of those wish there was more story but what we got was great type of short flicks

they don't have nipples or defined body proportions so it doesn't matter

He likes planes that are used to kill white people.

>Not recognizing the Unabomber

Idk Lain maybe.

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He's right though.

Well, it's true. Technology aberrant and degrades the natural environment of Earth. We have the idea that if we progress technology far enough, then we're preserve the human race forever. But so far, it's only sped up the destruction of our species and life on Earth in general.

Isn't he working on a cg anime

>SPOOKS
Which anime is this?

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>>>reddit

What? The reason Lain exists was because of a fear of technology and it's rapid growth rate. People becoming obsessed with it and disconnecting from reality and all that jazz.

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he designs cool technology though

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Kemono Friends

You can not like things it's okay to have a difference of opinions and all but he was an asshole here.

Afaik, Nausicaa's entire message.
>TFW in the end, she doomed the entirety of the sleeping pre-sea of fire human race and subjected the rest to survive in the miasma ridden one, while leaving to live with the worm handler hacks in a bubble.
Pic related was the true hero of the story.

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based

how is he an asshole?
they're talking about using the AI in horror films, Myazaki doesn't want to do horror, simple as that

Define nature

I can't watch this stuff and find it interesting

Whoever creates this stuff has no idea what pain is or whatsoever

I am utterly disgusted

I strongly feel this is an insult to life itself

all the old fuck had to say wasy
>You boys seem to be working hard I have some personal reasons to why I can't use this technology in my work but I hope someone else can benefit from your work but I wouldn't be able to incorporate it in any foreseeable projects.

He just insults them any hard work they spend creating that Ai all because of some retarded "friend" Miyazaki has they NOBODY is aware of and even if they were couldn't possibly think he'd link the too and deliver such a harsh criticism about it.

I don't think it really fits for him but there is no worse "lesson" to have in any medium especially if it literally means all technology. You'd have a tough case to make if you want to teach people that medical technology is evil and that humanity should remove all of it in favour of growing crops with their bare hands or something like that.

>He just insults them any hard work they spend creating that Ai all because of some retarded "friend" Miyazaki has they NOBODY is aware of
Don't forget that Miyazaki himself admits that he hasn't even seen his crippled friend in some time. You don't want to do a horror film? Okay. You don't think the movements are actually creepy? Fine. But don't make up some BS bleeding heart I'M OFFENDED FOR MY FRIEND WHO I DON'T REALLY SEE MUCH narrative.

>He doesn't get romanticism

He made a god damn movie about a guy that designed airplanes. Shut the fuck up with your basic nonsense.

He's right you know...

>He posts, from his quantum computer-toilet all-in-one with heated armrests and a sentient cupholder

if he hates technology so much,he should stop using glasses,more natural vision means more fluent with your enviroment,it totally won't fuck up your visibility

'CEPT PLANES
LUVS ME PLANES
SO INSPIRRING 'N MAJESTAMICAL
IFFIT CAIN'T SWEEP ARTILY OVA ROLLY GREEN 'ILLS, AVVIT BAYNED I SAYS

WINDMILLS IS ALSO WHERE I DRAWS DA LOINE
IF IT AIN'T PRE'EE, PASTORAL, OR MAKES ICKY BROWN SMOKE, DEN WE DUN NEEDZIT, ROIGHT?

THIS THIS THIS

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So Miyazaki is an Englishman in this fantasy of yours?

YABBLINS!

some incel who is rotting in prison.
other incels agree with him.

Exsactly. He shouldn't be allowed to do this.

Ropes.

Why are you skipping line after every sentence?

His point was, using a computer to depict human suffering has no value because the computer doesn't know what suffering is, this applies to character animation in general. His point is valid even though he was being a dick about it.

That's not even why he doesn't like it. He is applying life to what is practically a doll on screen.

We need technology to prevent overpopulation and nature to prevent extinction.

Little boy protagonist bad

Little girl protagonist good

Fuck you miyazaki

>reddit invented double spacing

Is this the Miyazaki thread? Which one of his movies are worth watching? I just downloaded a batch full of Ghibli movies and so far, they're all pretty good. Nausicaa was great. I've only watched a couple.

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Anything old>anything new
He kinda lost his storytelling spirit after the 90's due to the anime industry not conforming to his worldview yet again.

Zoom zoom is mad

Name something that isn't part of nature then.

How many of his films feature planes again?

ESL

agree

technorogy*

But anime is technology too
He should hate anime too
Fucking hypocrite old faggot

what a senile asshole, goddamn

IN THE BEGINNING THERE WAS STICK TO PUSH AWAY THE BAD THINGS

AND THEN THERE WAS ROPE

>computer doesn't know what suffering is
This and similar arguments are all based on the delusion that humanity is something magical. The truth is, it's all electrical currents and molecules.
It is possible to let a computer know what suffering is, but there is no need to make it as miserable as humans are.

He may be a grouchy asshole. but I can't deny my love of Porco Rosso and Lupin

Miyazaki is the Steve Jobs of anime
If only he was as dead as Steve

Tolkien 2.0

Tolkiens views on technology was more from his hobbies and his beleif rather than Miyazakis post-war fears and mass shintoist change in perspective on themselves.

Tolkien was a sperg for all things traditional, he loved the fuck out of norse and greek poetry after all. He didn't have anything special against industry just it was more like he saw it as something outside the world he loved to immerse himself in. He was simply a firmly set old man not willing to let go of his guns.

Miyazaki meanwhile legitimately fears the unnatural of industry due to how his religion changed during post war japan and in general being a bit of a hippie fuck. With recent years he obviously see that technology takes away something he considers to be wholly spiritual to him too.

OP is retarded enough to realize that Miyazaki hates the fruits of the Industrial revolution which has been a disaster for the human race™

>tfw miyazaki movies makes me feel safe
>tfw miyazaki movies help me to temporarily forget about the horrors of my life
does anyone else get this feel

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what about planes and italian engines?

Im pretty sure Tolkien criticized the impacts of Industrial revolution to the human soul though not as much as of Miyazaki's disdain of it.

>His point was, using a computer to depict human suffering has no value because the computer doesn't know what suffering is
That's retarded because the entire point of those animations is that it depicted inhuman creatures which did not know pain (i.e. zombies) and thus moved unnaturally. Both you and Miyazaki are retarded if you didn't understand this.

he sounds like the kind of person you can't have a constructive conversation with
there're other kinds of conversations though

>mass shintoist change in perspective
>his religion changed during post war japan
Care to elaborate?

The general religeous view in japan, about japan, changed from literally believing to be heavens world. A lot of it was due to the rise in propaganda effectiveness and generally good luck in their wars but after the nukes that basically was shat on, hard.

To put it bluntly the general shintoist view of japan changed from "We are blessed" to a more dark "We have been punished for over reaching.". And that's where a lot of anti-nuclear and anti human sentiment comes from in a lot of older japanese people as they believe the two nukes not only was punishment for assuming too much but also because the extensive modernization that had happened in the past few decades.

His point wasn't valid; it was pretentious.

Nothing. Everything in the Universe is technically part of nature.

He understands it, he just doesn't think cheap computer generated unnaturalness disconnected from reality has any value.

You're directly contradicting your previous post and his own words.

>we are blessed
>we have been punished
The first probably played a role in the second.

The ventilator you're hooked on right now
Please wake up!

>extensive modernization
But without that there wouldn't be any anime or manga. Or it would be extremely different

And it makes him look pretentious and old.

Actually there would be no anime or manga if the GI's didn't bring donald duck comics.

A computer ai is disconnected from reality the same way an otaku is. They both interact with digital images instead of real people. That's why anime is a mistake and an insult to life itself.

Ice cube trays with fun shapes

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Fuck

Nice shitpost

The steam engine proves this correct.

?

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It's almost like he isn't against technology, just against bad application of it.

Fine.
>"Everything I don't like is bad technology."

Arrogance of mankind has been a long established trope, there's nothing special about Miyazaki.

*AHEM*

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Technology isn't bad in Princess Mononoke. Unfiltered hatred of nature and a wish to despoil it is. For all the horrible person that Eboshi is in how she treats the gods and nature, she raised a strong city of equal citizens leading fulfilling, rewarding lives in safety and happiness. If she could just have tempered herself to not constantly crave more and want to kill the gods just because she could, she would have been a hero.

digital painting

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MASS PREMEDITATED MURDER GOOD

TRANSPHOBIA BAD

CRUEL BUT NOVEL MINDSETS GOOD

NORMAL BORING "CONSTRUCTIVE" MINDSETS BAD

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He makes a good point

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Why is the sky purple in nipland?

FAMILY GOOD
FAMILY VERY GOOD
FURRY KNOT BETTER THO

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Fire

Disgusting, using technology like that.

Humans are inherently unable to create something genuinely inhuman. Of course an AI has no idea what suffering is, that's the point, something that is incapable of understanding human suffering will have no regard for the suffering of humans. That's why it's scary.

HUMANS GOOD
REPRODUCTION GOOD
COLLECTIVISM GOOD
NON-HUMANS BAD
REPRODUCE MORE HUMANS

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When I was little growing up watching his movies I always use to question why most of the MC's of his films were little girls. Then one day during the summer my dad took me to the library and I checked out an anime he made called Panda Go! Panda which had constant bloomer/panty shoots from the little girl doing hand stands. Now this is from a guy whose parents would let him read and watch Ranma 1/2 at the age of 5. I could just be overthinking things.

Black people

salty bags of coins

it's funny how obvious and simple messages for kids can get completely lost to autists.

Just like Tolkien.

blue water and red sun make purple sky

based, technology is degenerate

Why he doesn't do high fantasy anymore? He modern shit suck so fucking much.
And what the fuck was Mary? What a shit show

I see you're a man of culture as well.

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And yet you use internet... Please return to smoke signals or cave paintings to express yourself :D

that has always been my take. high tech civilizations emerging when the conditions are right is only a natural process which is inevitable to happen sometimes somewhere in the universe, just as it is inevitable for some anthills to emerge on earth. Since in the end the universe doesn't revolve around us and we are just very smart apes who follow our instincts and thus create comfort for ourselves we shouldn't assume that what we do is unnatural at all.

kek came here to post this

Imagine saying someone is an incel because they question technology and the industrial revolution.

Sidonia no Kishi