>Gotenks thinks he's super strong and far above the kids even in base form, meaning base Gotenks is stronger than SS Goten and SS Trunks >then the canon Daizenshuu says Vegetto's base form is SS3 tier already meaning base Vegetto is stronger than SS2 Vegeta and maybe stronger than SS3 Goku too >then the manga shows the new incarnation of Vegetto can effortesly blow half of the body of a SSGSS Goku tier guy, meaning this Vegetto should be stronger than SSGSS Vegeta and SSGSS Goku >then the Broly movie has base Gogeta playing and smiling while deflecting the dangerous attacks that made Goku and Vegeta (in their SSGSS forms) run away, hinting base Gogeta is stronger than SSGSS Vegeta and SSGSS Goku
fusion's first form > strongest form of the fusees base Gotenks > SS Trunks base DB Vegetto > SS3 Goku base DBS Vegetto > SSB Goku base Gogeta > SSB Goku Zamasu > SSR Black Kafla > SS Kale
>Please, mighty Suupa Bejita-sama. Demonstrate your newfound powers by kissing this lowly Saiyan's wife, so that we all might bask in your radiant excellence and magnificent power.
>>big schlong meme Yet another instance of Brolyfaggots confirmed being literal faggots. Get the fuck back
Henry Miller
That's a lot of words for something that's common knowledge. If fusions weren't significantly stronger than the 2 that fuse what would be the point of fusing?
Henry Davis
based watching from the sidelines lizard poster
Evan Howard
>more QUEERoes Yawn.
Liam Johnson
>no reading comprehension whatsoever You even literate? What kind of fucking retards are the Shitrenmonkeys here?
Ryder Nguyen
Stop loving the voredroid.
Adrian Baker
Great, the Pajeet from Yea Forums ruined another thread.
Brody Torres
Oh yeah I forgot that on top of being sandcrawlers they have a crush on that garbage android. Holy shit, terrible beings
Say something nice to the strongest, fastest, basedest, chaddest, swolest, big dick-est, strongest grip-est, stoic-est, smartest, kindest, tallest, biggest aura-est, handsomest, wisest, cutest, best-est, physicallyimposing-est, invincible-est, insurmountable-est and most popular-est character in the entire series.
What would be the point, though? Cell doesn't have any real personal connections to any of the other characters, and his power has long since been surpassed. If he showed again, it'd wind up being something like his filler battles with Goku and Paikon: A total joke.
You didn't heard the rumor? He's going to have a new form: purple cell and he's going to team up with super saiyan oozaru nappa. It's going to be great, DBS at his finest.
Oh man, that sounds so great. I can't wait for Goku to fight Cell, Vegeta to kill Nappa, Gohan to job, and for Goku and Vegeta to fuse into SSJ4 Blue UI Gogeta and kick Cell's ass while everyone else stands around uselessly.
Leo Bailey
How is ultimate not around ssg level? Ultimate gohan was able to compete with dypso who god goku also competed with.
The show just went on too damn long. Power levels don't make sense anymore, Gohan's whole character arc turned out to be a dud, and Toriyama never writes multiple villains anymore, so none of the secondary characters get to be useful except for when Vegeta beats up a few funny-looking aliens.
>Black arc has less back and forth between timelines >Jiren is actually likable >Infinite Zamasu at least somewhat explained >no tingly back >no SS Rage >no Copy Vegeta >skips RoF Toyochads won a long time ago.
You're ignoring the fact that fusion works best with partners with similar powerlevels. Because the gap between Kale and Caulifla was too wide, there wasn't a dramatic increase in power compared to other fusions.
Justin Powell
they know gokek will never get a clean win over vegeta so they have to resort to "le jobber"
That just means the overall fusion is stronger than the fuses on their own, which is no brainer yes. But some still refuse the idea of base fusion being > the fuses strongest form
David Collins
Yeah but Vegeta has kissed his wife for him, hasn't he?
Honestly? I'm a third party and it's obvious Vegeta earned the 2-0. Vegeta was much stronger than Goku during the Saiyan Arc. Goku was spamming kaioken just to keep up and was destroying his body too. Vegeta didn't even need Great Ape, all that did was completely cement his. Goku conceded twice, first when he told Great Ape Vegeta to kill him and second when he allowed Vegeta to leave. It's even worse in Goku's case because he had Krillin, Gohan, and Yajirobe jump Vegeta, he was literally cheating.
Buu Arc is tricky to determine. Both Goku and Vegeta were pretty even in SS2. Ultimately the fight ends with Vegeta knocking out Goku. The argument here is that SS3 would have destroyed Vegeta. HOWEVER, remember SS3 wastes stamina and energy, and would have run down Goku's time on earth. Goku can't use SS3 here, it would have pretty much been a concession since Goku is willing to run down all his time on earth to beat Vegeta.
*AHEM* Gokek >0-3 against CHADgeta >1-0 against Jobren >1-0 against sHit >2-0 against Cuckza Therefore, since CHADgeta is 3 times better than Gokek it would look like this: >3-0 against Jobren >3-0 against sHit >6-0 against Cuckza Since our Royal Prince defeated Jobly in his BASE, SS and SSG forms, that would put Jobly around sHit's level: HENCE, Vegeta is >3-0 against Jobly Jobren, Cuckza and sHit fans need not worry, of course the PRINCE blesses them with pity wins. With the pity rounds factored in, the final tally of CHADgeta's wins and "losses" are: >3-1 against Jobren >3-1 against sHit >6-1 against Cuckza >3-0 against Jobly
If Pedro is beating the shit out of Tyrone, but Tyrone pulls out a handgun and kills Pedro, was Tyrone the winner? No, he was merely the last person standing. Vegeta had Frieza completely outclassed, but Frieza blew up the planet. He lost, but was the last person standing.
>I've seen better threads. I agree, but I can't help, but feel G T has no place for discussion anymore and the best we can hope for Pan, is that she has a future in DBS?
This makes Frieza ever losing seem kind of ridiculous, the moment he feels threatened he can just blow up the planet instantly and he's the only one who can breathe in space. He could have just done that while Broly and Gogeta were fighting to take them both out if Whis hadn't been there once more.
Vegeta had him "outclassed" because Frieza was exhausted from fighting Goku. Jobgeta played dirty and got OUTPLAYED dirty.
William Phillips
>HHNNNNGGGHHH BEJITA-SAN..H-HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO ASK...B-BEFORE ZAMASU KILLS US ALL...H-HURRY AND HEAD BACK...I-I'LL HOLD HIM OFF SO PLEASE JUST HEAD BACK AND KISS MY WIFE ALREADY!
>W-Whats that under Jiren!? I thought you guys said he had no dick? Why would he/she have a dick, are you assuming his/her/they ze/ne gender? Jiren can be a female.
Do you know why men have nipples? It has to do with how the embryo development works. At the beggining, men and women come from the same blueprint, therefore all develop nipples (gay). At some point, the male chromosome kicks in and the man features start developing, but after the girly damage is done. Therefore lowly saiyans and humans with nipples are known to have a feminine side eternally showing in their chest and chromosomes. But this man, let me repeat... this MAN is 100% MALE. From the first cellular division that happened on his mother's womb, he was a MAN. Literally 0 trace of woman chromosomes since day one. As you can see on his steel chest, he has no trace of weakness. No wonder he is at the top. I'm sure he doesn't have imperfections like a navel either
That's very easy to explain my friend See it's not uncommon knowledge that there exists a devote 17fag who works at Toei. Surely you do not think it's weird that Goku could not cause clothes damage, but 17 could? That moment was pure 17 wank, CHADren was not phased.
This might not be the manga for you. "Jiren has no dick" is a thought that came up in these threads because some DB species and some of most significant characters do not possess sexes.
>pretending to be smartasses Of course fusions are stronger than the fusees you bunch of retards but there's a big difference between just being stronger and being stronger regardless the form, a few years ago nobody would have said base Gogeta and base Vegetto were stronger than SSB just for being formed by the Goku and Vegeta that can use SSB, people even thought SS3 Vegetto would always be weaker than SSG Goku no matter when he was formed
Because of the 17fag at Toei, Toyo's version of the ToP is best
Jacob Murphy
Top tier: >Tardkuposters >Ore wa supa Bejita poster >Kissposters >Chadhanposters >Panposters >Zamasuposters >Argentina poster >Hermano/El Grande Padre posters
Did anyone here sit through every episode of the Tournament of Power?
Ian Johnson
The Black arc was where I got off. It was just getting too stupid, even for me.
David Allen
I did.
Liam Richardson
Why are you here?
Tyler Green
I never even watched Super until mid-way throught the Zamasu arc, then I ragedropped it after the awful finale and eventually picked it up again mid-way through the ToP arc when Jiren appeared, and even then I skipped the irrelevant fillershit episodes
Michael Sullivan
how kind of you
yeah. was only once a week afterall still. it really dragged on
Except they make no fucking sense in the manga. That picture for example. One of the strongest fighters in U11. "LOL HE HUGS PEOPLE" Fucking hack
Josiah Sanders
reddit
Aiden Myers
GTpacos need to be put in their place. Their series was shit and nearly killed the franchise. It was not good in the slightest and deserves every bit of criticism it gets, and stands as a blight on everything that came before it. Even Bio Broly is marginally more watchable than GT.
Sebastian Ramirez
Unreal Creepy Bartender
Caleb Howard
The only time I actually got hyped in ToP was SSBE, even if the form looked silly the whole scene with them powering up vs Jiren and going using their own limit breaking forms was just really well directed. Like, this is literally the coolest looking shot in all of DBS.
damn japanese are fucked up, using a genocider in an ad
Josiah Jackson
Well I'm going to bed with a pearly white smile knowing that Chadrenbros won another day. We cleverposted retards into blabbering literal nonsense like this cuck here Gonna lucid dream I'm in the ToP fighting alongside my bros Broppo and Broren. I can hear my girls calling me to bed from here. Keep crying untill I wake up to BTFO you some more
>Be Toppo >Sit on your fat ass and do nothing throughout the arc while your teammates are getting raped >Do a couple dabs and yell "JUSTICE" so people think you're participating >White knight for Ribrianne when 17 beams her >No acknowledgement on her part >She tries to act tsundere around Jiren in the special >Jiren then beats up the guy you jobbed to, even when he attained a new form and is now miles stronger than he was when he fodderized you >Call Vegeta a second fiddle, internally congratulating yourself on such a sick burn >Your fragile ego is somewhat mended when you shrug off Goku's balding son's Kamehameha without a scratch >Your fragile ego shatters because you're unable to land any good hits on a much weaker low-test mandroidlet for several episodes >Effeminate lizard shoots you in the back until your shirt's shredded, exposing your six-pack flabs to a laughing audience >Humiliated, you draw upon the power of your GoD and become moustached Terry Crews >First order of business is to rape the effeminate lizard >You're high as fuck on your new power >Still can't land any hits on the mandroidlet, though >YOU SERIOUSLY CAN'T LAND A SINGLE HIT ON THE MANDROIDLET >Suddenly Vegeta approaches, looking a little bit bluer than before >High on power, you attempt to assert dominance >Vegeta literally blows you the fuck out >Out of power, you revert back to your fat, fat self for everyone in the peanut gallery to see >Your GoD looks at you, disgusted >Your Supreme Kai is in disbelief at how short-lived your peak performance was >Your universe's angel, struggling not to laugh out loud, smirks and says "Good job." >Unable to lift yourself off your back, you have to be lifted up by Dyspo, the only one with enough sympathy to even look your way >Jiren straight-up roasts you in front of everyone for being a sellout AND a failure >You secretly wish for erasure so that you never have to see (or be seen by) anyone again...
I laughed for ten minutes. The fucked up thing is.. It's true Its' all true.
Jace Watson
yeah, I don't mind toppo but that shit had me dying when I first saw it.
Jonathan Jenkins
user, there's litterally no way on gods green earth Toriyama would sign off on that bullshit with Roshi showing up and blowing out everyone because of OLD. That's straight up RESPECT AND BEND YOUR KNEE TO YOUR ELDERS NO MATTER HOW FUCKING RETARDED THEY ARE bullshit that's mandated by the Japanese oligarchy and hierarchy. It makes Roshi look like a piece of shit and the fact that Goku bawed over him...goddamn. Tori would not allow that shit.
Further evidence that he's being used as a shield to protect the retards who're running DB into the ground. Goddamnit. Popo taught Goku movement without thinking 30 damned years ago and we've seen him do this shit multiple times throughout DB and DBZ.
Andrew Harris
>NO NO NO STOP TORIYAMA WOULD NEVER DO THIS STOP ALL SOURCES ARE LYING AAAAAAAAAAAAHH Stop reading here.
188867185 Is anyone else tldr; when this mongoloid posts his essays here?
Blake Gomez
Not only that, in the manga they never ever compare Jiren to Beerus, just Belmod who seems to rely on tricks more than in power so he's probably weaker than Beerus (and Jiren is said to be stronger ONLY in raw power, he's inferior in everything else) Jiren = comparable (stronger in some senses, weaker in others) to Belmod, who wasn't even compared to Beerus in the whole arc Broly, Vegetto (and therefore Gogeta too) = comparable (probably stronger) than Beerus
He didn't say shit cause there is nothing to say. They are nowhere near Beerus, and that's the only canon that matters.
Landon Carter
>Why didn't Shin(Toriyama) say Gokek and Jobren are near or possibly stronger than Beerus like he did with Vegito? Isn't it obvious? To some brainlets it might not be. The anime is much more on the nose with that subject and even then nothing is stated or directly implied.
Robert Ross
>Years later UI Goku hasn't been confirmed stronger than Beerus. With all the ass licking and promo UI is still getting, it's surprising that there's no official material or even a shitty game making reference to it.
Never going to happen. Gokek can't do shit to Bills.
Cameron Cox
My man...it's Dragon Ball Let me remind you: Krillin fought SSB Goku Android 17 fought SSB Goku and Goku made an idiotic comment about 17 'holding back'.
If you spend even one second seriously considering power levels you're giving it more thought than the creators.
Xavier Turner
based. what a time back then. the shitshow that was toppo especially when he was btfo toppofags got their shit rocked that night
Angel Smith
better actually
Samuel Powell
The undisputed chadliest character in the entire franchise is Vegeta. It's a bitter pill to swallow if you're not a CHADgetabro, that goes double if you're also a fan of Cuckza, Jobly, Choderen, Gokek, Cuckcha and dislike GODgeta.
I'd rank Broly over Tardku. Broly at least has the excuse of being raised on a deathworld with an abusive father, and he literally loses his mind b/c of his crazy strength.
Goku grew up on a farm with a loving grandfather and yet he's a complete moron who doesn't know what kissing is.
Nicholas Garcia
No, Cope Based
Isaac Ortiz
uh huh...
Connor Jenkins
DBS actually. Dont throw the entire ip under the bus to protect the imbeciles whore raping db's corpse
Luis Sanders
Doesn't Krillin have to team up with 18 to last 2 seconds against SSB Goku, and he still concedes defeat?
I'll give you 17 though. They'll need retcons up the ass if they want to explain that one.
He actually manages to make the fat cat pretty menacing, especially when he blows up the Frieza ship. Which is pretty impressive, since Champa's such a buffoonish character most of the time.
When Vegeta starts to seriously train Cabba I hope the Briefs basically adopt him & keep him in the home to contrast this.
Cooper Collins
I'm not sure if I'd want a U6 Saiyan Arc to take place on Earth or Sadala.
On one hand, we haven't seen a whole lot of the Earth lately, and I'm a little tired of the space settings. On the other, Sadala could be pretty interesting in its own right, if depicted properly. Like Namek but rougher, more down to Earth, and more colorful.
Dominic King
Why would they keep someone from a different universe in their home? Doesn't Cabbe have his own universe to be in?
Eli Long
im surprised dyspofags are still around
Hunter Carter
See, shit wouldn't be like this if Dyspo were the captain of the Pride Troopers. Toppo is a disgrace.
Don't forget that Dyspo denied Frieza's request to join him, while Toppo succumbed to the power of the GoD's by disregarding justice.
Bentley Watson
Yep. Toppo's a weak-willed pussy and Jiren's an asshole who meditates while half his team gets rekt. If Dyspo had been giving the orders, the Pride Troopers might've won the ToP.
Nolan Brooks
Not only that, but it wouldn't surprise me Dyspo wished the other universes back just like 17. If Toppo were the one to wish, you'd know he'd fuck it up by doing something selfish.
Bentley Campbell
Toppo would've wished for something retarded like the Pride Troopers being expanded throughout all of U11 because EVERYONE NEEDS OUR JUSTICE or some shit like that.
Something nominally to do with justice, but when you think about it is totally self-serving.
Lincoln Russell
lol well i guess it's established now Dyspo > Toppo
Elijah Richardson
So apparently there's a 5ch leak that there's a new DB game coming out next year for PS5/Xbox Scarlett.
It's going to feature the first time appearances of Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. Also the new story content takes place during Super timeline.
Josiah Powell
>So apparently there's a 5ch leak that there's a new DB game coming out next year for PS5/Xbox Scarlett.
Haven't there always been new Dragon Ball games since the 90s?
Michael Reed
>the first time appearances of Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. >takes place during Super timeline So is this a past/future time-travel story, a glimpse into the future, or a Super/GT crossover?
Gavin Reed
Does it mean SSGSS Godgeta > MUI Godku?
Christopher Lee
jej
Ryder Taylor
What’s the little vegeta next to champa in the bottom left panel
Luke Parker
Exactly, Dyspo is best boi after all.
>Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. >During Super
The only way I could see this working is if it's XV3, otherwise it wouldn't make any sense storywise.
wow you SURE showed me 90% of the DBS characters who live off one gimmick surely are fun
Owen Long
>Dyspo Cute, fashionable, well rounded, God tier ass, looks like two destroyer Gods, stuck to justice. >Toppo Blobbo, only move is dabbing, chimps out, is a bloat maxed Mr Potato Head.
is there any fanart where yamcha gets cucked by vegeta living in bulma's house? I would love to see something like yamcha gets pushed out of the way while going to toilet, and later has to listen to moans
Easton Kelly
>knighted by france is that supposed to be relevant? it's been a while since knights
