JOJO Cioccolata

>how the fuck is removing your limbs a benefit?
it makes giorno can't pin point his location with his life sensing ability. And he can hide in places he can't with his full body. that's why the pistols can't find him.
>how the fuck can he control them buggy the clown style???? If this was his stand ability then I understand.
it's apparently one of his ability(pic related)

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>things happen because Araki finds them interesting
I noticed the gore is obligatory and its a trope.
Only there are ways to work around this or have literally anything happen and it still makes sense.

See HunterxHunter abilities.
> Araki finds them interesting. Not because it makes sense.
Maybe its because I'm a CCG fag and interesting mechanical interactions are what interests me the most.

Crazy abilities that change the game or interact in ways not known before.
Something to stimulate the intelligence.
Araki turned jojo into CCG type power ability where anything can happen, and he failed to write it properly.

Why can this show not be like HunterxHunter minus the pedo clown and minus the kid characters?

>Not because it makes sense.
What draws you the most to jojo.

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>it makes giorno can't pin point his location with his life sensing ability
Wait he has this ability?
Whatever why did the bullets not see him?
I mean they flew around the place and they where passing thru walls and shit. How did this help him?

>it's apparently one of his ability(pic related)
so the mold only shows up when you get down and now it can show up on command? Badly explained.

>Its named a paragraph.
Paragraphs are not one sentence. That's not how you write paragraphs

>so the mold only shows up when you get down and now it can show up on command?
i know this is a bit far fetched but he could have lower himself to let green days mold grow on him.
>why did the bullets not see him?
he hides himself in pieces in tight places. He said so himself.
>the bullets were passing thru walls and shit
was this in the anime? i kinda forgot because in the manga none of the pistols passing through walls or shit.

JoJo is for retartds who like flashy things. Just like monkeys or crows

>Only there are ways to work around this or have literally anything happen and it still makes sense.
Hindsight is 20/20, and if the focus is on entertainment value above all else you're going to have moments where characters act retarded to have an interesting moment. It's like why people in horror movies don't just leave the haunted house or call the cops.

For the HxH comparison, I'd say Araki does way better than most when it comes to having fights be as much a battle of wits as power. But even HxH has asspull moments, like when Hisoka uses his rubber nen to do that thing, or when blonde Sasuke uses his secret power that him the best at everything if he's fighting people he doesn't like. Or how he also made a contract with himself to be even more super strong because that's a thing people can do I guess. Fact is, if it's entertaining and makes sense 95% of the time that's about as much as you can ask for.
Not true, Jojo is for people who like pretty men.

Author should strive to get balance between consistency and entertainment, otherwise nothing can get entertaining because it has no weight (or reasons, consequences). Retardness absolutely reduces the entertainment factor for me.

No one writes long here.

They separate topics of interest.

part 2 is peak asspulls though

>was this in the anime? i kinda forgot because in the manga none of the pistols passing through walls or shit.
From what I remember it was.
I mean the bullets are shot and fly.
Penetrate the outer shell of the helicopter so they should encounter something.

>i know this is a bit far fetched but he could have lower himself to let green days mold grow on him.
jojo is terrible to translate to screen because if you think about it more you realize some things.

Look at the OP GIF it would be impossible for this to work,he bleeds out because he gets up and the mold disappears or he dies once he moves down.

I know what you mean, but at the end of the day this is a story about meterosexual men using their special snowflake ghost powers to kill a gay vampire while making poses every time they shift around. At some point you sacrifice Shakespearean writing quality to appeal to the 13-35 year old demographic. That or you're just a hack.

Actually, I just remembered even Hamlet is bullshit. The king somehow gets poisoned by having shit dumped in his ear, and has to come back as a ghost for Hamlet to find stuff out. Writing is hard.

>like when Hisoka uses his rubber nen to do that thing,
What thing?

HunterxHunter remain in my opinion solid its basically a game mechanic where the more restrictions you put on your powers the more powerful they get.

>things happen because Araki finds them interesting

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Name 1 thing.

You know, that thing where he used his rubber nen to whack Gon with that rock. Total horseshit.

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In terms of asspulls it probably goes
6>5>2>3>8>7>1>4

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Don't forget about metallica pulling billions of razors out of your body when there's barely enough iron in your body to make a single sewing needle. IIRC someone also mentioned that magnets can't even affect iron unless it's in metallic form or something which I guess makes sense considering there's several medical machines that uses magnets like MRI which will obliterate the patients if magnets could pull the iron molecules inside their body

>I mean how the fuck can he control them buggy the clown style????
It's part of his stand ability

>Then we get into the helicopter scene.
How the fuck was he not there???
He was hiding in the helicopter.

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I was expecting this to basically by like Yu-gi-oh where the fun are the ability interactions.

JoJO can only be improved if the characters get on screen life bars because bullshit like inconstant power output gets instantly shown.

From the start of part3 I was saying if stands decrease in power with distance and damage to the stand is reflected on the user it makes no point to not have your stand like some armor around you.

Finally we did get this in the case of White album.

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Name any ass pull in part 2.

>Penetrate the outer shell of the helicopter
was that how it is in the anime? in the manga pistols goes in from the broken windshield
And iirc once green days' molds grows on you it won't disappear even when go up to higher places. it just stops growing.

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>He was hiding in the helicopter.
Yes and the bullets penetrated the outer hull and did penetrate a lot of the vehicle.
they even made the bullets do this penetrating because they did not know where exactly he is in there.

whole story was just Joseph being able to asspull whatever he wants and everyone else, including thousands of years old superhuman entities staring in disbelief. And that's a good thing.

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Interesting.
From the pick the bullets penetrate the hull after they continue going.

And the bullets must be retarded not to realize he can be hiding where the pedals are in a helicopter, the leg area or whats its name.

Contradictory impossibility or retarded bullets and characters? You decide.

This are not ass pulled and its 100% of every story ever written where the character overcomes impossible odds because of forced plot.

oh and i checked in the anime. the bullets also go in from the windshield not the helicopter hull

>reddit spacing
Try harder.

Joseph literally pulled a machine gun and grenades out of his ass during his fight with Straizo

I' tempted to rewatch it now.

might be cioccolatta is just that good at hiding. i mean even when pistols were looking around on foot they still can't find him, and the pistols also didn't spend much time looking for him because they are insantly incapacitated.

>the more restrictions you put on your powers the more powerful they get
For me, the opposite of that is my favorite part of jojo. Araki doesn't bother holding back, he makes almost every stand as blatantly overpowered as he can and it's real fun to see the chaos that ensues. But thinking back, I suppose that does come at the cost of good writing as lots of these overpowered stands require asspulls to defeat, the best examples being all main villain fights p3 onwards bar Kira.

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My favorite overpowered stand is Mirror Man. Realistically there's almost no way to actually beat him.

The restriction thing is basically every video game like DOTA or even every CCG.

While its never stated its implied that it works like this:
damage = base power * specific ability multiplier.

Meaning you can improve your base power DBZ style (see phantom troop) or by manipulating your ability.

And if we are talking OP nothing in jojo did even come close to what the ant king was outputting he dwarfed literally everyone in raw power alone without specific restrictions.

can hanged man deal with man in the mirror?

Hanged man did really live in a "mirror world" did he? Wasn't it more like he just used glass to conceal himself and move around, but he's physically still just in a piece of glass that's in the normal world? I'd think Person in Reflection would still be able to trap him even if he was hiding, but who knows.

Who defines the difficulty of restrictions? If you're braindamaged and really think that, for instance, jumping or breathing is difficult, will it boost your nen dramatically?

Just because I

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Would beg to differ.

>jumping or breathing is difficult, will it boost your nen dramatically?
The strongest people in HxH are polio victims

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>Who defines the difficulty of restrictions? If you're braindamaged and really think that, for instance, jumping or breathing is difficult, will it boost your nen dramatically?
This is the question.
I suspect it works like you summoning a GM and talking to him what boosts will you get from restriction and he tells you.

on the other hand you can implement restrictions without a GM only to later find out its not that impressive to the GM so you are stuck with crap abilities.

I think the restriction are more related to things like if you restrict your ability to only work every sunday and you die if you try to do it on a different day. And if you restrict your ability to work only 1 day of the year you get a bigger boost.

Reddit spacing is a thing because it shows you instinctively structuring your posts to look good on Reddit. It doesn't look good on Yea Forums so unless you happen to have that writing "style" incidentally it's most likely you're a frequent Reddit user and therefore something something Yea Forums doesn't like Reddit.

The worst part was when Giorno was thrown 5 m away from the helicopter, then for some reason in the next scene he was grabbing the wall of the building with no explanation.

I get that in the manga people don't usually think of this, but in an anime it stands out like a sore thumb.

Another question is - if your restriction is really difficult to pull off in one situation, while extremely easy in other (like Chrollo has to be told about ability), isn't the later example nullifies your restriction and makes your ability weaker? After all, it isn't difficult at all and can't be counted as a strong restriction. Like Chrollo should have no trouble of stealing nen abilities from his comrades. That shouldn't have worked because Zeno stated - for such a strong ability he should perform at least 5 or 6 conditions.
But these conditions don't have the same difficulty (requiring resolve from the user) in every situation. Is Togashi just a hack?

Dude, there's a fucking CHARACTER that's an asspull in part 4!

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Every time I visit these threads I get into a discussion with evidently retarded people and get slightly upset at wasting my time. How do I stop this?

Part 5 is the second most bullshit one after 6, Araki likes doing random shit for the sake of doing it when he feels bored and apparently doesn't care whether that hurts writing or not, he sometimes makes antagonists/protagonists pull bullshit powers that make no sense or are blatantly overpowered, also make characters get brutalized to the point any human on earth would die or need to be hospitalized and still be just fine later.
Also the whole "fate" thing is some of the worst Araki could come up with.

Weed

You don't visit these threads until like 5 mins before the episode airs

how many more episodes until Gappy?

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You didn't name one, though.

70

That's completely unfair. The best arcs have no asspulls and do make sense within the world. Grateful Dead arc for instance.

This picture radiates a strange energy

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>part 5
>asspulls
it has no asspulls and no GER is not a asspull

Can not find GIF of it.
After the bullets enter they zoom around all over the place and one of them makes a 180 off screen.

I was under the impression this was supposed to show them penetrating the helicopter over and over from different angles.

How do I create GIFs from video Yea Forums ?

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how about this picture?

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We get it, it's your favorite part and therefore there's no asspulls

No you idiot he was made of light. They explained it in the fucking story. Light doesn't exist "inside" of mirrors.

You read JoJo like it's abillities are limited to their prior use, they are not, they are concepts and can evolve from that. The question isn't what can Cioccolata do to apply his mold, it's what can his mold do, how creative can you get with a mold ability. He uses to mold to stop the bleeding and the stand to control his limbs without leaving the effective range of his stand since it's still him, same thing Bruno and Giorno have done.

Another thing is that stands in JoJo don't rely on power after part 3, there is no "strongest" stand, The World can lose to a rat, and a user can be shot with a gun, characters don't have powerlevels like in HxH. If you are looking for that it's the wrong series, game mechanics have never been a core value, character motivation and personality shown through actions will always be prioratized. That is not to say mechanics are ignored, but they will never decide an outcome that doesn't align with the characters.

No, but it does suddenly become more annoying.

>HOW?
He controlled his body parts with the mold he sent through them. That shit was explained in manga and not in the anime so thats DP's fault.
>WHY?
To hide you retard did you not watch the episode?
Stop having baby tantrums because of chinese cartoons. Also go back the fuck to plebbit

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You have autism.

Because he could hide himself in storage room where one woulnd't look for a grown human. Removed limbs can still be affected by a stand, therefore he could use his stand to move his bodyparts, this is nothing new and has been happening since Jotaro moved himself with Star platinum, as for the detatched limbs that still worked in the early episodes of part 5 where Giorno threw his arm to apply GE to Bruno

Literally almost everything GE does is asspull. Damage reflection, creating body parts that somehow work and don't get rejected, reviving Bruno as a zombie etc.

Next one I think

>stand abilities are asspull

Pulling abilities out of your ass is the literal definition of asspull.

>Damage reflection
That's not an "asspull"; it's a side effect of his life giver power that was established in the first episode.
>creating body parts that somehow work and don't get rejected
I don't know what to tell you. Araki's not a biologist or a doctor. I guess if you're a medical professional and you get triggered by fun fantasy stories don't watch this show.
>reviving Bruno as a zombie
He didn't revive him, he postponed his death. Prolonged the process. Bruno's body is slowly falling apart. He will be dead soon. If you consider that a spoiler you haven't been paying attention (which is obvious from your post)

how is it pulling abilities out of your ass when it always do so in the beginning? the only one that came out of nowhere was the life detection ability.

>character motivation
Yeah, like Dio wanting to do... what? And Vanilla Ice being loyal to Dio to death because of...

>He will be dead soon
He's already dead user, they literally established that in the past 2 episodes with the mold not growing on him
I agree with the damage reflection and body parts stuff but zombie bruno is definitely an asspull

STAND UP

I'm more confused about how letting Mista shoot at Secco allows him to jump into the ground safely from Episode 30.

in part one dio just wants to fuck up jonathan's life. In part 3 it's your generic world domination goal.

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Not that user, but it’s pretty clear giornos stand is really versatile. Araki kind of fucked up in saying it just “creates life” since it would be more correct to say it manipulates it. Dude himself was still figuring out how his stand worked. Damage reflection was gotten rid of, just like a lot of other stand abilities. I guess we can assume slow mo is gone but he rarely ever punched someone and didn’t finish them off. Bruno is the last human he punched with GE and didn’t win the fight immediately after. The creating body parts thing is another application of his creation ability which makes enough sense. The biggest one is the life detection thing, that ones some bullshit, but plenty of other stands have had some dumb shit too.

If we take into account Giorno's ability to make the receiver of his punches feel them in slow motion, Cioccolata's beatdown must have felt like an eternity

Great characters indeed

Dio is still a better villain than Valentine or Kira

t. Ghiaccio

Did you just completly ignore half the sentence and think you had a point, the second part was personality, ill explain it for you.
DIO craved controll, even when it wasn't needed, he needed to controll his fate, shown by taking Jonathans life, family, inheritence, love and finally his physical body. The extention of this personality resulted in the World being able to controll time itself and through that the world itself. Vanilla ice character is grounded in the idea of destructive loyalty his introduction is him killing himself for DIO (once again showing DIOs need for control), his stand destroys anything and anyone, it literally consumes Vanilla ice himself both protecting and blinding him, that is his unstoppable loyaly taking narrative form. In the end the negative parts of DIO (his vampirism and lack off humanity) is what kills vanilla ice, showing how missplaced loyalty is self destructive.

He cut himself down to hide in a small space you retard, the pistols we're moving around quickly with their bullets and didn't think to check a small area where a human couldn't fit.

As for the autonomous limbs, yeah Araki 100% asspulled a second ability for Green Day to make the fight more intense, 3 I'd you count him instantly stitching himself up. But it's not as if that's unheard of in Jojo, it just tends to happen to more plot important characters

Kira yes, he's a shit villain. Valentine is based though

>To hide you
I want this drawn out on a helicopter schematic.
Because I suspect (I don't call people retards out of the blue BTW) it will be impossible to hide or the bullets are retarded for not looking.

I also want you to draw where the bullets looked/moved in the helicopter.

I suspect I will be right, however who knows maybe you show me how this can be done.

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>Because he could hide himself in storage room where one woulnd't look for a grown human
I doubt that seriously.
See what actual humans can do
youtube.com/watch?v=bKHBzRsL49A
youtube.com/watch?v=7Rb5SZYRRqo
youtube.com/watch?v=2rXXtnwqz_Q

And you realize that removing your legs and 1 arm will not help that much. The torso is the most big part of it all.
So did the bullets assume that Cioccolata is not a contortionist? Because these abilities are real and who knows what his hobbies or interests are.

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The final part with the bullet is even worse.
>I perfectly calculated the kicked branch bouncing against the propeller, losing it's life and returning to being a bullet!
>But wait, I Cioccolata survived a bullet through my head!
>But wait! I gave gold experience to the branch before dying and now the bullet is a beetle!
>I totally knew a fragment of the buttle will remain in your brain so I could return the bullet there without you noticing it and start the growth of the beetle larvae!
Like wtf is this shit, also wasn't the point of the last fight that Giorno could only use Gold Experience with his hands? Now he uses it with his feet? And what is the point of giving life to the branch if for it to return being a bullet has lose in the first place, that bullet shouldn't be imbuided in gold experience lol. And the branch dying is bullshit too, if it gets kicked to a high position it should loss it's moss the same as giorno does during the fight in the first place.
One of the most retarded fights in Jojo, such a shame that the 7 page muda muda has to follow such an empty win.

who the hell assumes somebody is a contortionist from the get go? vento aureo was in 2001 way before youtube was a thing, so they probably doesn't even know people can do that sort of thing without using stand ability.

>wanting logic in jojo
lmao

Yes the bullets presummably assumed he was not a contortionist, it's not the logical conclussion, that would be him having left the chopper.

We know you passed 6th grade English, at least.

Joseph runs away from Kars and then jumps over some cliffs and is then flying a fucking airplane

>>Damage reflection
Has to be the most (story mode) stupid thing ever introduced.
Because its OP as shit and then its red coned out of existence.

Because all you need to do is create a swarm of bees that sit on you or grass or whatever and whoever attacks you will hit the animals and the damage is reflected.
Literally the most broken thing ever and instantly removed because of how game changing it is.

Someone is a terrible writer and realized this and redconed it all.

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part 5 becomes a total shitshow whenever giorno is on screen

he single-handedly makes the show worse every single time he shows up, the whole thing would be massively better without him

I can not belive you retards pretend to care about JoJo when you missunderstand the fundemental principles it's written by, do you think Araki ever gave a shit about powerlevels and videogame mechanics?

I’ll give you 4
>Joseph is pulled by some force to block Kars’ hand with the stone even when he himself had given up
>Joseph’s hand flies out of nowhere to impale Kars perfectly with his fingers when they’re thousands of feet up, leading to his demise because he somehow didn’t notice he multitude of other rocks, Joseph himself saying that it wasn’t planned
>Joseph did the mirror trick when Straits could literally only see his top half AND Smokey yelled for fear of Joseph’s life when he can clearly see that Straits is shooting at a mirror
>Joseph literally pulls a machine gun out of his ass along with some grenades
Come on user. Part 2 is the asspull central of Jojo. That doesn’t make it not good or entertaining.

The only one asspulling in Stone Ocean is Pucci.

Guys what if damage reflection only works on non-stand users........

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>youtube
>contortionist
>youtube was a thing
Did you never go to the circus? Because these performances where shown in the circus even before television existed.
Only now I can link to the exact video we are talking about to show you what I mean.
And contortionist demonstrate that you can squeeze your body a lot, normal people can try to fit in small spaces.

Araki really lets the ball down on this since he likes to portray himself as a worldly man who knows lots of facts who are injected into jojo.
And jojo characters jump to the most illogical conclusions and then it turns out their illogical or doubtful deductions are the true ones.

I mean even by process of elimination you simply start looking into every box and corner in the helicopter. Not jump in and shout "He is not here this is unpossible!" so the first thought is him being a contortionist or finding a good spot to hide.

And from a writing perspective I like to see where he did hide his body parts.
I mean if he was written with a secondary ability where he splits apart like buggy the clown and hides in tiny spots and reassembles himself it would be not only cool looking it would be good writing.
Only I would not jump to "aha he used his surgical knowledge to cut himself apart and was hiding... somewhere".
So bad writing.

God I miss detective Conan.

koichi

Based hairfag.
Never fucking change.

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Despite the fact that Bucciarati and Koichi have been shown getting affected by the damage reflection, why the fuck would that limitation be there?

Koichi is a retard he doesn't count

Because the logical conclussion is that he fucking left the heli, not that he was secretly a fucking circus performer, how the fuck does him doing that fit the character of a mengle like doctor? The writing shows how a psychopath doctor with superpowers could do something shocking and surprising, not how someone could cram themself under a helicopter seat you actual autist

>the fundemental principles it's written by
And these are?
???

Without a consistent plot you have illogical things happening for no reason whatsoever.
>shit about powerlevels and videogame mechanics
Fun fact (that I can not post here without massive censoring) my porn has better plot and story then jojo at this point.
This is no joke because I have a porn comic about the book of genesis where the story is more accurate and biblical sound and makes more sense then every single preacher.

And its fucken drawings to jack off to.
I don't know if my standards are to high or jojo is this low.

So porn comic artists plot > jojo plot.

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ssh! Abbachio's sleeping

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Then its bad writing.
Not explained = bad writing.

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So there are retards who have watched JoJo until Part 5 Episode 31 and only complain now about the asspulls ? As if it wasn't clearly established that the series revolved around them in Part 2 ?

I don't know maybe Giorno transferring snake blood to himself as a serum made more sense. Or Mista getting shot 100 times since the start of Part 5 and not being dead yet also made more sense. Or everybody getting their limbs reattached by some zippers despite the nerves still being cut off made more sense. Or a boat hiding in the sail of another boat made more sense.

So? You can have all of that AND be actually entertaining rather than half-assed frustrating randomness. The examples of it are still plenty in the series itself. There's a clear divide between fun creative ''nonsense'' when it suspends your disbelief and it delving into an obnoxious slog of randomness with no rules.

I will just assume you meant me, just read Arakis actual book on how he writes if you actully give a shit, the abillities are NOT the plot, if you look at JoJo for the mechanics what the fuck are you still doing here after Hamon was repurposed 5 times within two episodes, the thematic importance of a characters actions has always been the plot, not the powersystem. Look at even Part 1, Jonathan makes a zombies body cling onto the machinery of the boat after he himself was incapacitated. Hamon shoulnd't be able to do this but it can because thematicly it makes sense for Jonathans manifestation of his bravery and determination to desperately cling on in order to defeat Dio. Not fucking once has the actual powers been the focus yet you fucking autists can't accept that even though Araki so blatantly doesn't care about them himself.

Because the result is the same.
people can fit in different spaces regardless if they are a contortionist or remove their limbs.
Only a idiot would not realize this and not search every possible space.
This is literally your first go to. Start shooting at every possible space and repeat.
Basically this.
youtu.be/xgJ8hwpbukw?t=123

So we are back to
A) Impossible to do
B) The bullets are retarded (not that hard to believe) -> the "ZOMG why is he not there!" moment is not so impressive.

> left the chopper.
No one did see him jump out so this is your first problem in this theory.

he was an annoying piece of shit

you have genuine autism. Youre asking where the magic mold controlling psycho killer fighting against the magically blonde italian who can summon a yellow man named after a prince song that can spring life from inanimate objects and do much more illogical things. He fucking hid in the helicopter.Where he hid isnt important, it was a desperate last ditch effort that didnt even work. all you need to know was that he hid out of sight of the sex pistols, it could have been under the seats or behind panels or some shit, it literally doesnt matter. he dies 20 seconds later so why do you give a fuck?

The cartoons I jerk off are massively mechanically and plot wise internally consistent and I did not even ask for this (I'm happy to masturbate to zero plot porn). They are my jerk off pictures. Why is Araki worse then the porn artists I visit? They somehow manage to create masturbation material that features a detailed and rich world where the plot fits perfectly.

the pistols and mista didn't even know that cioccolatta separate his body into pieces and still move, and again no one just assumes somebody is a contortionist from the get go.

As someone with part 5 as one of my favorites I have to agree. The end to this fight always seemed retarded to me too. I kind of forgot the doubleback gold experience bullet bullshit but this episode refreshed my mind. Sometimes araki really does write asspulls, no reason to pretend its not real. It just sucks

shh. We are judging one plot hole at a time.
>Or a boat hiding in the sail of another boat made more sense.
Fun fact I did make a thread about it and even the hard line jojo fans did admit in the discussion that it was impossible to work the way it did because I managed to get them into a corner and literally no explanation made sense.

However this is a Cioccolata thread.

^this all of this!
You speak the truth.

Your entire argument revolves around the idea that a contortionist can hide themselves almost as effectively as a person without limbs, maybe that's true. But it still makes no fucking difference and I can not belive you don't understand this by now, JoJo will NEVER be about logical conclussions and problem solving, Araki doesn't write it that way, it never pretended to be that, it will never be. How did he have time to record a long phonecall after getting Mista, why didn't Mista turn into mold when he was knocked down, why didn't Giorno simply remove the vines and let the helicopter crash and kill Cioccolatta, if sex pistols can kick bullets with the normal speed of a bullet fired from a gun why does he need a gun in the first place, why can sex pistols communicate without speaking. IT. DOESN'T. MATTER. If you think that is bad writing, fine, who gives a shit drop the series because nothing in the series that makes the series stand out would even be possible if it followed real world logic. Instead of the stardust crusaders showdown with DIO would you rather have them bring the UV lights that oneshot vampires? Because that would be great writing according to you and be super satisfying. Again and again you missunderstand the core concept of the series because of your actual autism.

>he can't comprehend giorno's 10000000000 IQ play

Girono could give life to his poop and turn it into a snake and make it slither out of his butt

I'm confused. I can tell by your text that you're talking about Giorno's stand, but you're saying "GE" instead of "GW"?

>GE needs his fists to give things life
>uses GE to fist himself

Because its bad writing.
>it could have been under the seats or behind panels or some shit
this is terrible writing.
It makes the
"zomg he is not there, where can he be this is unposible!" moment look stupid.
And this is bad writing.

>Youre asking where the magic mold controlling psycho killer fighting against the magically blonde italian who can summon a yellow man named
You clearly don't understand the opposition if you point this out.
I have pointed out Yu-gi-oh the fun in it is to construct mechanics who work or are surprising and to stimulate the intellect.
We don't question why the card mechanics function the way they do we accept them as fundamental and deduce conclusions based on what has given to us.

Or simply look into real life CCGs the fluf and avatars can say whatever they want.

Also Detective Conan.

While both shows have stinkers overall they provide a better experience and better plot.

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remember when they could make their stands really small in part 3? He could make GE small and put it in his butt

for your own sake I hope this is bait

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>JoJo will NEVER be about logical conclussions and problem solving, Araki doesn't write it that way, it never pretended to be that, it will never be
So we agree.
The show is illogical.
>Again and again you missunderstand the core concept of the series
Can you tell me what it is?
And I remind you once my porn has better plot even thou I don't read porn for the plot.
What does this say about Araki?

Shut the fuck up, Giorno!

>giorno's hair is 3 holes
>3 of his friends die to the boss by impaling

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Stone ocean is the only without a jobber final boss stand of the week villain.

1) yu gi oh is a series about cards with exact descriptions written on the cards. Their abilities are literally spelled out for you and in no way could they ever change. Despite this fact, the yu gi oh anime still finds ways to invent new asspulls and fail to make sense, constantly. Jojo is ultimately a story about the journey of the hero and their friends, and their resolve to win no matter how hard the adversity. Yes, there are plot holes and sometimes araki makes mistakes, cioccolatta hiding in the plane and controlling body with mold is one of these plotholes. There really is no explanation, but the real joke here is that the golden experience bullet shit was waaaaay more of an asspull than the first two things. A normal person would go "oh thats kinda dumb" and move on. Yet here you are, repeating over and over about MYJERKOFF COMICS. MY PORN. YU GI OH? CCG? ARAKI IS A HACK REEEEEEEEEEEE. We get it dude, no one else cares as much as you though. Not every story is bulletproof and the enjoyment jojo provides outweighs the mistakes araki sometimes commits because he is a human being. Get over yourself bro.

>So we agree.
>The show is illogical
Have you taken the time to read the title of the fucking series? I know there is no way you actually read what I wrote but maybe you snapped up that the title isn't JoJos logical step by step solution. If JoJo followed logic part 5 would not exist, Dio would have died early in part 1 because you can't survive getting slammed through a brick wall. I have described several times what the core concepts are, creativity and character, Arakis goal is to express creativity and character through their actions, this is what creates the plot, The writting focuses on the characters actions making sense for their personality and ambition in the most creative way possible with a losely defined ruleset. Araki doesn't care about standard writing rules, that's why he has more iconic characters, scenes and powers than any other mangaka. He makes things up all the time, but not because he has written himself into a corner, but because he wants to express something. Is there anything left you don't understand about his writing proccess? Your idea of a good plot is going from point a to point b, if you can't look beyonnd that at the thematic importance of a characters action then once again just dropp the series because it's not a childrens detective show.

hes a legit autist dont even bother. life to him is just rules on paper that must be followed

I think the bullshit in part 5 hurts it more because it's taking itself more seriously but cannot keep any sort of consistency so it just ends up crashing and burning in a worse way. I honestly don't remember what the hell was going on for like a good half of part 6 cus it's like a fever dream. And the fate shit is terrible, like it can work on the level of something akin to ''these two families being destined to combat each other'' or stand users being inexplicably drawn to each other etc. but when whole plotlines start revolving around actual in-universe predetermined crap (whatever the author wants) it's the worst excuse for nonsense and the cheapest, dumbest deaths to occur. Why should I give a crap about these puppet characters? Like you mention, some chars gets brutalised to absurd degrees for no reason other than Araki wanting to up the gore and they're just fine, meanwhile somebody from the main group will slip on a banana peel and die randomly, but no it's ok cus fate, guys. You're just making it all the worse.

>Have you taken the time to read the title of the fucking series? I know there is no way you actually read what I wrote but maybe you snapped up that the title isn't JoJos logical step by step solution
Oh user why so angry?
Bizarre can have multiple interpretations one of them having to do with vampires or hamon/stands in the show.

>creativity and character, Arakis goal is to express creativity and character through their actions, this is what creates the plot, The writting focuses on the characters actions making sense for their personality and ambition in the most creative way possible with a losely defined ruleset. Araki doesn't care about standard writing rules
What dose this even mean give me examples of this leftist modern art postmodernism or how its supposed to work.

>to express creativity and character through their actions
Explain this.

> it's not a childrens detective show.
1) Try watching something like Columbus (pic related) and say the same.
2) [I could have written a statement in insulting or playing down jojo however I did not]

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Ok whiner

I agree with you. Jojo fanboys have nothing to stand on.

Im angry because you're either intentionally missunderstanding what im saying and im wasting my time on a troll or you're genuinelly autistic and im wasting my time. You want an example? After ACDC possesses Suizie Q Ceasar and Joseph solve it by applying positive and negative hamon on her. This was never introduced as a concept before because it was not relevant, what was relevant was that it was showing how Ceasar and JoJo for the first time work together as comrades, not rivals being the only way to save their mutual friend. The focus isn't on the new addition to the powersystem, it was never mentioned again, but the development of the characters and their relationship. It serves as a dramatic parallel to how them splitting later on lead to Ceasars death and completing Josephs character arc of learning empathy, the hamon boost he gets from Ceasar is never reffered to again in combat, but instead shown through his character along with the headband being used to complete his will and defeating Wammu. Nothing that happened in that chain made sense, it wasn't supposed to, but it works because it's thematiclly connected. Again, using pure logic the Stardust Crusaders would have just used a UV light to kill DIO because it oneshots all vampires, but thematically that would be a disaster. Im not calling you autisitc as an insult, but because you almost assuredly are. You want JoJo to follow a set of rules that would make it's very existence impossible, if you don't get it at this point, read the book Araki wrote on the subject or just give me a hint that you understand that the series was never intented to be or never could be what you want it to be.

Also when Giorno is falling after kicking the branch at the tip of the helicopter and falls and falls and falls and then just appears holding onto the building.
Like this nigga can teleport now too.

before he fell, he were running on the branch to the helicopter, and the helicopter is close to the building. did you even watch the anime or read the manga?

I'm not reading this shit lol

>read the book Araki wrote on the subject
Can I get the name of it or links to a summarized version?
Because all you have write sounds like meaningless bullshit that has no connection to anything whatsoever.
its meaningless post modern art talk.

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same

OR DO YOU!?

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>reviving Bruno as a zombie
What additionally gets me about this besides being a retarded decision is later when Narancia is killed, aka his spirit inside Giorno's dead impaled body is gone, Giorno is able to return to his own dead body, now fully healed. So what is the deal here? Is the spirit being detached the actual problem or the body being ''dead''? Because it seems like the body can be healed up just fine and carry on living and spirit flying off being the actual problem. But then they say that the problem with Bruno is that his original healed-up body is decaying...and that's why when he takes over Diavolo's body he's just fine. Bruno's spirit returns to a body healed by GE, so why does he turn into a zombie(other than Araki wants it to)? Shouldn't Giorno going back to his original body have the same effect??

it's just the containment thread

I mean it's JoJo's BIZARRE adventure, not JoJo's SENSIBLE adventure.

>those gets
mista is fucking dead

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nice digits

Doesn't Araki make up the story like on the spot? That's why it's called Bizarre Adventure

narancia's resolve is not as strong as bruno when he's killed.

AHHHHHHHHHH

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>Doesn't Araki make up the story like on the spot
Fun fact anyone who did do and D&D GM campaigning can make stories up better simply run them over 3 or 4 times and you are finished rock solid story. Especially in the stand setting Araki can literally make up anything he wants yet he fails hard. The only interpretation of this is laziness, stupidity or absolute lack of creativity, possibly a combination of all of them.

>wasn't the point of the last fight that Giorno could only use Gold Experience with his hands? Now he uses it with his feet?
It's even dumber when you remember he used GE to give life to that tree's roots through the crack in the tiles under his feet in the Black Sabbath fight at the start.

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It is very ironic that you're posting old art praising it for it's quality and attention to detail but you would never comprehend nor be able to explain the symbolism Rembrandt used in the painting you used as an example. Go read up on "De Nachtwacht". I used the most basic example I could think of and you still coulnd't comprehend it, art is lost on you but im sure you might become a great mathematician.

Retard speedwatcher
He literally says why and how he is doing it
You need to go back

You see
JoJo wouldnt be as good as it is if it wasnt bizarre or made any sense

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Battles like Oingo and Boingo and Clash + Talking Head always irk me because the characters suddenly become absolute idiots in order for them to work. We see how extremely observant Giorno, Bruno, and to a lesser extent Mista are, and yet directly after Narancia got his tongue attacked by a stand, him acting weird didn't seem to phase them at all. Sure Giorno figures it out eventually but it takes way too long. Even though they had no idea there were 2 stand users they could have still easily drawn a conclusion that Clash is affecting him somehow

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There's ways you can circumvent this overpoweredness by applying some actual rules to this broken ass stand. Like perhaps he can only make one thing alive at a time so you cannot just coat yourself in defense, or the damage from the reflection is not that severe, or the critters truly behave on their own and you can't get them to just stand around somewhere, or it works only with animals created and not plants etc.

who cares if anything makes sense just watch it for the battles and enjoy them retards

Is just one autistic retard, nobody else gives a fuck

Is there any series that does what JoJo does without being bizarre or not making sense? Please namedrop a series that blends fashion, internationall cultures, classic art, religion and music with a thematically consitent 30 year long storyline without dropping in quality and with art of high enough quallity to have an exhibition in the Louvre(the only manga to ever be). Arakis aproach to writting is the only reason JoJo could ever be what it is. It's not for everyone but it is extremely unique.

>You're a faggot
No they fucking don't, you use green text to point out shit you want people to notice, not fucking spacing out a single sentence.

>art
Art is garbage this is a fact.
Art must be banned.
>the symbolism
Meaningless trash and pretentious sophistry.
Daily reminder that no art can even compare to the greatness of comic book covers.

youtu.be/Esvn7NgTq4Q

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The Oingo Boingo fight was more of a roadrunner type of segment then an actual fight.
And Narancia was already established to be a mega retard, so it wasn't completely out of left field for everyone to dismiss him at the time.

He didn't jump or anything tho, he fell because he had to kick the branch, it's impossible he ended up there.

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Except your sense of denial, like makeup on a Sphinx Hecatia.

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Y-YOU BASTARD

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your spacing makes me want to kill you and myself

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Why bring up golf courses, broken putter?

Well, it was your idea first and foremost tart. Angry or just really confused?

There exists one and it's called Battle Tendency.

The problem wasn't them dismissing him, it was acknowledging him. GAH, he actually went over... there (as his hand suddenly jerks in another direction).
>Well shit, we better take a look over there then

On a very special episode!

>44444
Die faggot

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DELETE THIS POST RIGHT NOW

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Green Day is a shitty fight, Oasis is the better fight

i can tell your not cool just by how you fail to understand that its a cartoon from japan based on comics

Called it.
BLORF! ZAP! ZONK! CHUFF! BAP! BAM! REAGANOmICS!

Art is trash you are all pretentious idiots who celebrate what is basically a money laundering operation involving peaces of garbage made with zero effort.

This is what meaningful looks like.

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anime-only here. Does Mista's hatred for the number 4 ever get mentioned again?

>that trip
OH FUCK, MISTA GET DOWN!

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Megatron says...
HOLY SHIT ICECREAM TRUCK!

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>capeshit

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Japs have a superstition about the number 4.
Like in the west 13 is considered unlucky so its removed from hotels etc.
In the same way 4 is treated in Asia.

Any questions?

Yakko.
9 hours.
Think about that.
And ghost rider.

Read again, I'm talking about how Giorno's spirit manages to return safely to his dead but healed body and he remains well even tho technically the same thing happens to Bruno but his body starts to rot. Unless I'm missing something it's just yet another inconsistency and works only cus Araki wants Bruno dead soon and the JoJo not.

still stupid that an Italian has this superstition. Why not give this to a japanese character?

I think you misunderstood my post. I understand why he hates the number 4, Im asking if there are any more moments in part 5 where he gets angry at the number 4

Well, what did he want? Hugh Hefner to live? As did I. As did anyman.

reminder not to reply to tripfags

Team Borestar.

Stubs your toe confirms.

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He as a panic attack in the final fight when he only has four bullets left

Just assuming you're not trolling, what is it that makes this great in your opinion

Yes and?
Even if you show this picture to savages they can instantly recognize its meaning.
This is what it means to be meaningful not the sniffing your own farts until you are insane modern art crap.

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Jiren.

has*
He tells someone to drop one more bullet I think

I'm not too jazzed about superheroes these days either, but you've gotta admit the old Spiderman comics were kino.

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What’s up with the autistic tripfag

Well too bad the other character was more of a meaningful protagonist than him.

Hater. You're very beautiful on the inside. Somewhere. My sweet potato.

the correct way to respond is to pretend it doesn't exist

Like your relationship with your Wife ,Blalucard?

>it was only a year ago that Yea Forums was autistically sperging out about spiderman
Where does the time go?

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More accurately, why trap someone in a fantasy world when you benefit from these trips Seija?

What the fuck are you even going on about?
Are you insane?

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MAYBE.

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don't respond idiot

>tumblr

Crackers and whining @
with
grape
juice

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@deviantart
youtube.com/watch?v=YHcmX5YWpKs

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I can reply to whoever I want, you autistic faggot magnet.

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Hi

Why do you like giving tripfags attention?

See the difference between the two is that Oingo/Boingo was a genuinely more creative and fun ''fight'', it was obviously comedic in tone and that's why it works better than characters suddenly becoming braindead in a scenario where they're expecting an attack from any corner cus we are lead to believe shit is serious now right after they betrayed the boss. Can you understand the dissonance? And imo Clash/Talking Head starts off great with the shrak soup stuff but gets worse as it goes on and I don't get why it was essentially a Narancia-only battle instead of some team-up.

What up. Wanna go see a submarine about a giant robots acting career?

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When someone is acting like a schizophrenic tard, how could I not respond?

I am in love with you

By....not responding?

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Then why are you responding to me and trying to make me fall in love with you?

Such is the curse of biology and inner monologue! Alternatively, email Miyamoto sama. He likes you.

Jfc, the above replies are exactly why we don't give tripfags attention.Now the thread's been completely derailed to the point of no return.

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Hash tag meme arrows "TRYING"

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Summary of this thread:
One Piece/HXH/ BNA/Others is/are my favourite manga. Since Jojo is so praised ,I must prevent it from being put on the same level as my favorite works, to do this, I will make absurd examples and call everything ''deus ex machina'' or ''plotholes'' even if they aren't, and i will try to find absolute realism in a battle shonen.
......
I mean, I love both Jojo, and HXH, even One Piece. I know that Jojo is not free from defects, but adducing things like the planimetry of the helicopter where it hides Cioccolata, or ignoring things like Sleeping Slaves where is explained why Bucciarati survives and Abbacchio and Narancia don't, is preposterous
One last thing. Every, and i repeat, EVERY battle shonen with superpowers have some forcing in the power systems: Dragon Ball, HXH, Ueki, One Piece, Jojo...No one is exempt

weak

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>EVERY battle shonen with superpowers have some forcing in the power systems: Dragon Ball, HXH, Ueki, One Piece, Jojo...No one is exempt
Fullmetal Alchemist?

>general power/speed
Every humanoid stand has this ability user not just the main jojos

>that thumbnail

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Why could Ceasar and Joseph mind control people with Hamon then? Why does Hamon change rules constantly, why could Stoheim survive a point blank grenade, why did Josephs arm perfectly hit Kars, why didn't Joseph get launched into space with kars/high up enough to die, how did he survive crashing down anyhow, why does Hamon suddenly have positive and negative charges

I made and I agree with you.

This is the truth superhero comics dies after 2009.
Disney destroyed everything.

Wasn't his like super fast and strong? Like uber fast?

Does the sunken ship just keep going?! This and more on "UNSOLVED MOON MYSTERIES!"

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Hello friend.
Want to complete the helicopter challenge and place Cioccolata body parts in the helicopter and where the bullets looked for him?
Have a try here

>Summary of this thread:
>One Piece/HXH/ BNA/Others is/are my favourite manga. Since Jojo is so praised ,I must prevent it from being put on the same level as my favorite works, to do this, I will make absurd examples and call everything ''deus ex machina'' or ''plotholes'' even if they aren't, and i will try to find absolute realism in a battle shonen.
>......
>I mean, I love both Jojo, and HXH, even One Piece. I know that Jojo is not free from defects, but adducing things like the planimetry of the helicopter where it hides Cioccolata, or ignoring things like Sleeping Slaves where is explained why Bucciarati survives and Abbacchio and Narancia don't, is preposterous
>One last thing. Every, and i repeat, EVERY battle shonen with superpowers have some forcing in the power systems: Dragon Ball, HXH, Ueki, One Piece, Jojo...No one is exempt

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Bruno’s soul left him when he got fucked up by King Crimson

Power/speed is not an ability, speedreader. Timestop was it's ability all along but Jotaro was too autistic to explore his stand beyond 'I punch' until he had to.

But it literally is or silver chariot needs to use its ability for the first time.
Whatever explain Kira then and his 3 abilities.

You can move your Stands around. All Cioccolata did was put Green Day in his wounds and then move it around. What about that doesn't make sense

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See the GIF he bends around human bodies are not rigid bodies so this breaks whatever principle you are trying to create.

Also what exactly is the stand ability here?
Everything that will go lower then it is now will die?
So he should have died the moment he did go down.

Also his mold only shows up when this rule is violated so no idea how he can summon the mold at will.

How does it break anything? He's moving himself using Green Day as a lift, basically.

Green Day doesn't affect him. It has never been shown affecting him. In fact Grateful Dead, a fight earlier in the part, makes it clear that its ability does not affect Prosciutto himself unless he willingly toggles or allows it. So it's no different.

This is just such a nothing complaint. You should have pointed out more valid issues, like Notorious B.I.G. establishing Giorno needs his hands to use Gold Experience yet he transforms the bullet by kicking it.

>Green Day doesn't affect him. It has never been shown affecting him. In fact Grateful Dead, a fight earlier in the part, makes it clear that its ability does not affect Prosciutto himself unless he willingly toggles or allows it. So it's no different.

How can he summon this mold to these body parts then?

>This is just such a nothing complaint. You should have pointed out more valid issues,
The main issue is how he did hide in the helicopter and where.

This fight would be much better if №5 killed Cioccolata when they found him.

Why did the bullets start magically falling apart in the helicopter?
Is this another ability Cioccolata gets and its never explained?

don't forget star finger

Supposedly Cio was cutting them up with his scalpel, which raises another question in that he shouldn't be able to touch Stands. My only justification is that he put Green Day on the scalpel's blade.

I let these things play out before I judge.
However at this point it was simple bullshit.
i mean if there was another stand user who can magically create invisible razor wires to destroy the bullets or if it was established that Cioccolata has this ability its ok. However it was not established and these scenes look nonsensical if you start thinking about them after the "reveal".

What did these bullets not see that the guy was swinging razor blades at their friends?

>My only justification is that he put Green Day on the scalpel's blade.
It doesn't affect stands. Secco's stand suit protects him from the effects.

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The best fights are the ones that make sense from start to finish, or you could at least understand how things get to the ending point, yeah.

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The face the picture.
Have a meme.

I have lost all will to live.
End me now.

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Presumably he had them in his jacket. IIRC he was aware of the fact that Straizo was going to come kill him at some point so he had prep time.

What I always figured is that Green Day can be used with its AOE effect or concentrated. This is why they mention how the whole Altitude thing is used to expand his AOE. We don't see anyone get Molded when he fights Giorno I assume that's when he untoggled his AOE and used it in a concentrated way

I mean this is seriously not explained.
if we get less bullshit about some mold existing in real life who dose something like this and get a actual explanation of how the actual thing for the character works I be happy.
I mean the narrator can talk while they use repeated clips or some shit.

Quick question where are you watching it?
I'm watiching it on
otakustream.tv/anime/jojo-no-kimyou-na-bouken-ougon-no-kaze/episode-32/

is secco dead?

Yes user, Yea Forums is dead. Newfags don't attempt to integrate into the board's culture anymore, they simply post however they feel like.
Even worse, anons like you who call them out get gangbanged by other newfags.
Yea Forums was never good, but now it's just embarassing.

NO NO FUCK YOU YOUR WRONG PART 5 IS A PEICE OF SHIT DUE TO THIS PART 2 HAS NO ASSPULLS LIKE THIS

This thread is now ended

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Part 2 is just 4D chess. No asspulls there.

Jojo did go downhill ever since hamon was abandoned.

What are you on about?
Learn to write correctly and learn spacing, don't write gigantic blobs of text.

pathetic hamonfag

What a cutie
I love him

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I miss Jonathan
These other JoJos have no honor or dignity. They are not true gentlemen

There was a time when Tombstone was a serious villain? El oh el.

what the fuck is my boy polnareff the same voice actor?

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yes

Yes, he sounds deeper because he's Punishednareff now.

Based and Jonathanpilled

the secco fight was kind of ass in the anime, the animation was really weird and they just weren't able to do Araki's crazy underground perspective shots justice.

Green day anime>green day manga
Oasis manga>oasis anime

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i guess so
the way he stumbled into that trashcar and the fact that the trashcar stopped to take him in is the thing that really pulled me out. i enjoy the asspulls. seccos death was dumb.

Joseph did

It's 100% bait

>Because its OP as shit and then its red coned out of existence.
It was never retconned out. Name a point where anyone attacked Giornos animals.

People bitch about Giorno being an asspull when he literally only punched like 2 niggas in the whole series after Bruno.

Joseph cheated on his wife you clown.

Secco's VA knocked it off the park though.

Why is King Crimson always so mad?

ehhh, i liked him better in the last episodes where he was barely able to form coherent sentences, in this week's episode he just sounds annoying screaming everything out.
kinda wish the anime cut a lot of the useless fight dialogue that's just the characters explaining their actions.

Only after 40 years of marriage. His wife was obnoxious, the fact that he didn't do it earlier shows that he is a gentleman

users can extend their stands to grab things, Ex: Bruno grabbing the train with sticky fingers.

In exchange for incredible stand power, diavolo has eternally flaring hemorrhoids.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU EVEN DO THIS

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If your stand gets out of range he just weakens but still works.

nice quality

Johnathan is a generic shonen protagonist so derivative he LITERALLY dresses like Kenshiro at some point. His best moments are when he isn't just a brainless moral gentleman, like roughhousing as a kid or getting mad at Dio.

exemplification of Diavolo being a mean psychotic fucker since Stands are the reflection of a soul

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Gold Experiences range isn't that far, though. And he wasn't anywhere near the ledge when he fell.

Im pretty sure that what araki implied, since Ciocco was confirmed dead before he even hit the ground (and Bruno knew GEs ability would kill him), and you can hear GE ability activating every time he punches him in the anime.

why does Pol Pol use binoculars if he has one eye?

>OP makes retarded nonsense complaint

>lol asspull XD

every time

Cause they were cheap.

Even he know's he's bullshit.

David studios took some creative liberties with the manga that dont adapt properly to anime. For instance the scene where Doppio was flailing and punching the air was replaced with him swinging and missing at Risotto, because the former would have looked weird in the anime despite the fact that he was well within 2 meters of him in the revised animated version. So in this case we can assume Giorno was much closer to the building than Davids initially made it look to be.

Easier to find

Iunno, do you just so happen to have a fuckin monocular laying around, retard?

O MY FLYING HAND
O MY FLYING VOLCANO ROCKS

Don’t talk shit about Jonathan

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Good thing we get another Jonathan in part 7 then

I will when people try to pretend he's more than he is. Especially if they're animeonlys. Johnny surpasses him on every level it's insane.

>A fucking tire has the sound decibels of over 200 from a guy that's over 10 feet away
Apparently in the Jojo world, people go deaf if their tire goes flat while driving.

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Johnny is not a gentleman and not honorable
Jonathan was noble, kind, and even cried for DIO as they both lay dying. No other Joestar deserves the same respect

How did he record second voice message with a hole in the head and being motionless?

>Its named a paragraph.
>its named
it's "called" you grammatical troglodyte

Why did secco like forget that he has super speed and all that shit?
Its like the music starts to play the villains stop being threatening.

Also what did the zipper do?
I was thinking he removed his hart. However its never explained.

he hit it really hard and sound is aparently louder underwater

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this was underground wasnt it?

Uh, yeah, well, whenever you notice something like that... a stand did it.

I mean they can talk through stands, I think, I'm pretty sure Diavolo did it with King Crimson

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If DIO loved Jonathan so much why didn’t he just decapitate Erina and steal her body instead

>what did the zipper do?
Attached Secco's arm to his chest region, forcing Oasis to apply that liquifying effect to Secco himself.

It was underground. If you ever been in a cave/sewer/underground creek, you know that sound bounces off the walls and vibrates everywhere.

I thought it was pretty well established that if you use your stand on yourself you have much more control over it.

Someone promised that damage reflection will be back this fight but i guess Araki forgot it exists.

blowing a tire = making a hole in it

Hey animeonly
Kill your self

>~1m away from Secco
>he has incredible hearing from using his stand
>Bruno fucking exploded it too
>while they were underground that allows the sound to do more harm
I knew jojofags are underage but come on

>O MY FLYING VOLCANO ROCKS
You mean them launching him into space and humans not dying from the forces involved?
I was thinking its the classic writers don't understand physics.
for example in the shazam movie every human who was rescued from falling should be dead because this is not how physics and forces work.

>O MY FLYING HAND
Who what?

didn't read part 7
its your least fav
don't (you) me again

BE GONE NUMBER DEMON

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I think you're misremembering what happened. Giorno transformed the bullet into a branch by touching it with his hands (it went through them). He kicked it later after Chocolate destroyed it and it became a bullet again on its own because it no longer had life.

cause thats gay as hell and Dio loved Jonathan so much he wanted to always be close to him

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>Uh, yeah, well, whenever you notice something like that... a stand did it.
Upvoted and saved.
You fucken deserves Yea Forums gold account sir for this. I'm fucken laughing right now.
youtu.be/sVgVB3qsySQ
Someone make a jojo version of this picture.

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How much did Dio masturbate when he fused with his body?

Nice bait image

what does the D stand for?

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And then it turned into a stag beetle

Domino's pizza

But what’s gayer, touching another man’s penis every time you pee or letting your bro fuck his wife’s vagina

>How did he record second voice message with a hole in the head and being motionless?
AWWW shit.
Imagine fighting so hard to your death and pretending to be dead that you have time to record a phone message without your enemies noticing you are talking on the phone.

And jojo fags still pretend like there are no plot holes or absolute bullshit in their Japaneses cave paintings.

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The thought of everyone exploiting Giorno's damage reflect by walking up to the boss while covered in termites is such a hilarious fucking thought.

Reminder that the last characterization we ever saw in Giorno was when he said he wanted to eat some margherita pizza in Naples in the Notorious B.I.G. arc

noice

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Part 5 stands are freaking BROKEN and OP. How did we come to this from stands like Lock and Echoes? Grateful death and beach boy are fine, but Baby face, Green Day, King Crimson and Oasis are just full of bullshit (to name a few)

diving is inherently dangerous to the human ear even at lowish depths
also i think araki is implying the sound is doubly reverberating against the other objects in the mud water. plus water is incompressible etc etc this is like the only thing in the show that makes some sense

Did that ability even work after Lucas died?

I hope the opening of part 6 is 3D (´・ω・`)

the technology just isn't there to animate Oasis properly, it looked all so janky

>I must consume food for nutrients
That's not characterization

Imagine not noticing the stand talking on the phone while you watch your enemy dead.
Also negative points not explaining or showing this.

Fair point

so this episode basically says that secco survived. Was it like that in the manga?

Completely subjective and the dumbass whining in the OP is a great example of nitpicking for the sake of it.

It's called budget and capable animators.

No, it's legitimate criticism of a bad story

what? he got mulched dude

Wait what?
He can do this? I did not see a zipper there. Is this how the ability works now?
And can Secco not deactivate his ability or what?
And where the fuck did Secco "ZOMG he is so turbo fast" thing go? Was this abandoned?

I'm sick or having to assume shit. Why can't Araki just write shit that makes sense?

Why are animeonlies so fucking illiterate it's POLnareff not polNAReff

Could Secco and Cioccolata defeat Diavalo?

Do you know what happens inside garbage trucks?

4 times 4.
Its the number of the devil.

It’s Jean Pierre Eiffel, actually

No one can defeat Diavolo.

Abbacchio's death
Hatred and disgust towards Cioccolata's power
7 page muda
Narancia's death
Speech to DIavolo about his friends sacrifice and reaching the truth
Final speech to Polnareff in the last pages

I have come to the conclusion that the lack of funny or smiling facial expressions of Giorno is considered lack of personality

But I also see that in this thread there are people who are not able to distinguish between a perforated tire and an exploded one....

>mad doctor performs surgery on himself
>uses his stand (which is established to not effect him) to patch up the wounds to allow him to survive
>OP is so dense he can't understand that removing limbs would make Ciocco smaller and able to hide in small spaces, which is exactly what he did
>OP is so dense he can't tell that since this was meant to be complete insanity the bullets wouldn't have predicted this or prepared for it

n-no, what happens

Hookers and coke

I can

This is an issue of pacing with the anime. In the manga we don't see the exact amount of time that passes between Giorno notices that Ciocco is 'dead'.

what's his name again?

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Soft Machine Requiem

I guess I assumed he set that up when he was first touching the bullet. Like he set up a "chain" or transformations.

I mean, it's not like the stag beetle thing has any affect whatsoever on the fight so who cares, really.

The white supremacist streamer.

wtf bros i want giorno to throw me inside a garbage truck too

holy shit kill yourself. what is with all the redditors getting assblasted because something doesn't make sense to them, its a fucking cartoon for entertainment, not a nature documentary

You'll become the hooker.

>The thought of everyone exploiting Giorno's damage reflect by walking up to the boss while covered in termites is such a hilarious fucking thought.
See: Its so OP this strategy can instantly win practically every fight and only specialized or strange stands can hope to defeat it accidentally without knowing what it is.

when did you realize part 6 is good?

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Now tell me what Johnathan is beyond being a "gentleman." I don't care about a one-dimensional goody two shoes.

Part 4 stands belongs to simple citizens and are used for everyday life more or less. Tonio cooks, Tamami scams people, Shigechi harvests money, Rohan takes inspirations for his manga, Toyohiro lives in his stand, Ken Oyanagi plays rock, paper, scissors in the street...
Part 5 stands belong to mafia members and assassins

The crotch armor thing is to contain the power of his BBC.

The line goes "When I aimed for the propellers, I imbued it with Gold Experience's life force", so it looks like the kick actived the ability. I don't remember him ever doing a chain of transformations by using it just once...

Every single episode gets this shit.

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Costume stands best stands

why is polnareff so somber and dramatic compared to the previous parts. it kind of hurts me to see the fun parts of him left and in their place it's "AH YES THE SECRET OF THE ARROW... THOSE KIDS..."

but how would you keep the bees on yourself at all times?
how would you prevent the bees from stinging you?

It wouldn't have been an issue if it didn't happen every single episode numerous times.

A good brother, son, father, and husband
Also a hero who can’t stand seeing an innocent get hurt
A good man who I dearly miss

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Secco´s bodysuit is his stand, just like Ghiaccio right? Is he naked under it? Are non-stand users looking at a naked dude rubbing his cock on a kid´s ass?

>He can do this?
Yes. He zipped gun to the guardian's arms when they were stealing a plane, but this scene didn't make it in the anime.
>I did not see a zipper there.
Look again.
>can Secco not deactivate his ability or what?
He panicked way too hard after being deafened. While not being a literal dog, he's not the brightest individual either, and definitely not the most mentally stable one, too.

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>possesses an armour stand that protects his body
>can turn the compactor and trash to mud, preventing him getting squished
>can fucking escape anytime by turning the whole car to slushie.
>last seen screaming coherently inside the compactor, meaning he was okay after the compacting process.

yeah secco is alive and (quite) well

He's spent 10 years in hiding after Diavolo tore him apart.

>10
2

Basically every time joseph is laying traps or shit that you cant even see
Like the wool cap, The grenade coat, Shit like that. Not that i minded much

>Green Day
Technically super death only if you don't know about it or how it works.
The deductions are ass pulled there is no reason to think the ground correlation is correct it equally can be contacting metal or being in the shadow.

Is about useless if you know about it.
Actually practically every stand can be great and kill everyone if you shoot people while they sleep or from behind.

The element of surprise is the most important one. And there are boat loads of it in jojo.
Only the plot decides to ass pull itself to prevent this from being a viable strategy. So using a gun stand to shoot everyone from behind never works on jojos.

that looks painful is he gonna be okay?

someone is driving the truck, you don't think they'd notice the guy?

Secco lives off of sugar cubes and the last time he had any was like 2 episodes ago. Those calories are long gone.

Reminder that there is no reason why sticky fingers can travel underground. It makes no sense whatsoever. Sticky fingers goes from opening putting zippers on things to open them to a virtual portal dimension after the fight with KC

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Japanese art and literature, as opposed to western literature, has always favored themes and moments over general story consistency. Their writing and stories hardly follow a set rigorous path that makes sense, but instead it tends to be more abstract and sinuous.
I've always thought of them as dream-like, where things pop in and out of existance regardless of how illogical the plot becomes.

That picture is exactly what i mean by this post:
It barely looks like Secco is using Oasis on himself, they really should have used a specific visual effect to indicate he's using the stand like they did with Green Day's green mold.
And what the fuck is that expression? hope it gets fixed on the BD holy shit i'm dissapointed in how this fight was adapted

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Stands are a manifestation of one's soul. Part 5 revolves around GANGSTERS, user. Their souls are pretty hardcore.

Cope

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Remember him storing the treasure in the bathroom at the beginning?

>ok listen to this, the next protagonist is kind of a jerk but he is actually a good guy
>didn't you do that already?
>yes but he is a cripple now
epic

>>OP is so dense he can't understand that removing limbs would make Ciocco smaller and able to hide in small spaces, which is exactly what he did
>>OP is so dense he can't tell that since this was meant to be complete insanity the bullets wouldn't have predicted this or prepared for it
See: and
Please show on the helicopter schematic where the body was and where the bullets looked.

KROSEZ YOU PUSSSSSSSYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

UPLOAD THE VIDS, FAGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLINIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!

That's no different than the more surreal esoteric type of fiction found in western literature, cinematography or art in general. It all depends on the context and how you set things up. There are observable reasons why some fights or scenarios in jojo work better than others.

Please don't link me your insane drivel like you actually have anything worth saying.

>HERE'S A HELICOPTER SCHEMATIC TELL ME WHERE HE HID IT'S NOT REALISTIC

Life would be better if every JoJo character was a girl

i look like him :o

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Thanks for clearing this up.
This is why I was asking and not screaming "zomg retards makes no sense hahaha"

>but this scene didn't make it in the anime.
How is the difference between the anime and the manga? Is it really big or not?

The underground sections looked like shit
Like they're just floating there in the void

What's stopping Giorno from making a zoophile brothel? Makes no sense, how come Araki never thought of that?

Please be in
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You would think people like this would quit after the first episodes of Jojo, but they would rather keep subjecting themselves to the bizzarre masochism of overanalyzing everything in a series like this

Too bad you're not black enough.

Life would be better if everyone IRL was a girl, too.

This dude is literally insane, don't respond.

there was empty space in the wall
he is literally just running through the ground vs Secco
Completely different. I don't mind Sticky Finger having a type of teleportation or portal dimension with sticky fingers, but it should've been defined and used from the start

Aren't the living things he creates with GE basically obeying every single of his commands? So they can be programmed?

>how would you prevent the bees from stinging you?
I don't know how do the guys in reality do it with the bees? Because its possible.

And can you not use grass for this or other plants?

you got any more ms paint part5 my sides are in orbit at giorno pulling a tree out his ass

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Part6bros...,
youtube.com/watch?v=VCX3TaiHqeY

They looked like shit in the manga, too.

>Freek'N You released 1995
>Part 5 manga started 1995
>Part 6 manga started 2000
What song from year 2000 they will pick for first ending credits?

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Except me
So that way I could fuck them all

why does araki do this thing now where the "muscles" are just drawn onto actual mannequin physiques with magic marker

It was
Remember when Bruno went inside of another person?

>Years of exclusively musical references
>Decides to name a stand after the worst Banjo-Kazooie game
What did Araki mean by this?

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>no nipples
wtf araki what´s the point of moving to a seinen magazine then

I was sourly disappointed they didn't include this. It's one of my favorite gang moments

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I get the feeling that they never compensated them for the plane

>he's still going about "MUH HELICOPTER SCHEMATICS"

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read part 6 its the second best!~

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youtube.com/watch?v=aOtYf9DwydI

Point is Sticky fingers is really asspully when you think hard about it because it has no well defined limits

It can separate things
It can create pocket dimensions
But now suddenly it can allow him to teleport through the ground? Should he still be in a pocket dimension where Secco couldnt find him?

None of Fingers abilities add up, its even more egregious than GE or King Crimson, its just not as blatant about it.

True. Because you're the best part of them all, user.

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>Please show on the helicopter schematic where the body was and where the bullets looked.
Up your ass. He's probably still lodged up in there, user.

I don't disagree with you

What?
Was this not his stand ability?
That he was fighting with and countering sticky fingers before?
And we are talking
"OH MY GAWD he is so fast that i can not contact him with my stand!"

> Those calories are long gone.
This is not how calories work in reality.

On a similar note, if Giorno can make bananas and fruits can he effectively end world hunger?

he forgot

How did a car completely roll over his leg? Did Secco turn his leg into mud too?

Giorno hates niggers.

DADDY

I LOVE BRUNO. HE WAS CUTE THIS EPISODE

Crazy Town - Butterfly
youtube.com/watch?v=6FEDrU85FLE
OR
Moby - Porcelain
youtube.com/watch?v=13EifDb4GYs

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Thats impossible because 7, 4, 5, 1, and 2 exist

Please don't fucking tell me you actually thought the purple shit indicated a pocket dimension instead of a fucking portal.

It won't, user. Let's cry together.

I really like seeing fanart of good dad dio
why is this

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6 is better than 1

You are right the more I think about it.

My first thought about him jumping inside of a zipper was
>Oh shit he stopped to exist!!

I did not think about it however I was thinking he left himself some space before opening another zipper so he was tunneling with zippers (???) Only it gets problematic to visualize this.

Why didn't he just give the arrow to Jotaro to upgrade his already broken stand?

So did Bruno just magically hide a Phone inside his face? Or an eyeball inside Giornos head before he even knew it?

If it is a portal, that brings into question how he opens up the other end of it since he needs to punch things to activate his stand.

god you're all fucking retards he didn't teleport thorugh the ground, he made a hole in the ground with sticky fingers and

>Crazy Town - Butterfly
I wish this is anticipated like All-Star for Part 4 and Gangsta's Paradise for Part 5

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Based and politoedpilled.

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we don't know if they're edible, they could be rotten or give you a strange infection

>he makes a hole into solid ground and then continues along the entire stretch of it completely unhindered

oh stop your makeing my blush

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over the past years i read in every jojo thread that this is the worst jojo and i can see why
the enemies feel lazy as if he was trying to make these guys as gay and disconcerting as possible
the last boss is just another time controlling stand
sex pistols is just crammed in and the VA is annoying and whiny as hell
especially this gimp enemy stand which is like already the 2nd gay couple in almost consecutive arcs
at least josuke couldn't exactly heal everyone and himself, giorno can which kind of makes getting hurt useless when he has unlimited gold experience healing as long as he has ((a)) hand which he can just plothole into a brooch bug

Cute, I'd impregnate your boipucci.

I'm not finished part 7 but I think it goes
2>6>4>3>1>5

>I've always thought of them as dream-like, where things pop in and out of existance regardless of how illogical the plot becomes.
You know I never thought about it this way.
However the more I think about it all these nonsensical end fights in anime are something I will now see in a different light.
> where things pop in and out of existance regardless of how illogical the plot becomes.
Is this the result of the genetically inferior Asian mind? That they literally can not think logically?

>boi

they explain this, he was being chased by Diavolo
and the gang so he had to go into hiding and completely shut himself off from the world

After I finished it. Emporio was all alone, with nobody to relate to.

youtube.com/watch?v=92__UaovpiI

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Nothing will stop me, boi or girl. The impregnation will happen.

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sorry I hope you do find a cute bf but I can't be yours

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So uh, Tooru's evil, right?

you literally see him zipper the underground to make his way through
i don't get what's so confusing about this

1 is a lot better than people realize

its
>short and sweet
>doesnt drag on
>has a small, condensed cast of characters
>has adventure and action to keep things flowing
>characters while not perfect are well defined enough to have solid motivations that are actually believable and actually engross you in the story
and then it ends on a bittersweet note.

I dunno what the hate for part 1 is, yeah the old art is fucking ugly but the anime adaption really sold me on how good it actually is. It feels like a stage play.

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Sticky Fingers' limits are fine
>If he places a zipper on an object, he can either separate the object entirely by zipping across its whole length, enter the object's internals, or enter a "space" generated by SF
I feel like this has happened enough throughout the fights for that to make sense.

It isn't until the teleporting ground thing that it's kinda nonsensical.

He keeps Yasuho happy and satisfied. How is that evil?

>188853233
You have genuine autism, no (you) for (you).

Araki here
yes

ending 1
youtube.com/watch?v=Eo-KmOd3i7s
ending 2
youtube.com/watch?v=CduA0TULnow

I think it took till Jolyne was shrunk by her roommate for me to relax and realize oh this part is fine, if not good, only speed-readers would not like this
part 6 is great!

This should probably clear up why Bruno didn't go into some pocket dimension when zipping up the pavement.

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No need to repeat what was already pointed out.
So are you saying its impossible to hide in a helicopter like this?
Because this will be trivial if you think he did hide in there.
absolutely seething jojo fags.

it's not le WACKY XD enough, part 2 really spoiled people enough to expect every part to be as weird as that one

You're not "Araki" I am "Araki."

they clearly stopped chasing him at some point for him to take the time to call Bruno and his gang
couldn't he have sent Jotaro a message the same way he did to Giorno?

yeah thats what I assumed

the problem starts where does bruno exit underground? He should be exiting into sheer bedrock unless he miraculously comes upon another open empty space.

Based

Part 1 is one of the better parts

>NSYNC
no pls no

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None of these songs are from 2000, but fuck it.
Ending 1: youtube.com/watch?v=4JkIs37a2JE
Ending 2: youtube.com/watch?v=Ej3Wo3SwoXg

? i don't understand
here is a picture of me i hope this clears things up

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Holy shit KYS yourself

Part 1 is really good.
Its actually a British themed vampire story.
Part 2 is a great continuation.
Like explaining where the mask came from.

2 >1 > 4>5>3

Do you think the anime will change people's opinion of Diavolo, like it's changed some people's thoughts on part 5 itself?
I've always been a fan of him, along with Doppio and King Crimson, despite not being well developed.

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I really don't like the music direction this part. The main theme is overused and some tracks are used at the wrong time creating emotional dissonance (like the beginning of this episode). The only part they did remarkably well was the Soft Machine cliffhanger and Black Sabbath

even if he reached out to Jotaro he couldn't have done it as himself, i'm confident Diavolo had a group specifically dedicated to chasing Pol's trails, so he couldn't just drop his name on a random call to japan or florida or wherever Jotaro was, he had to do it anonimously, and that decreases the chances of Jotaro noticing him

? anime onlies already love diavolo through Doppio and they haven't seen him, it can only get better from here

Just came into this thread to say that the garbage man now has more enemy stand user kills than 50% of the gangstars.

I actually think I like it more this way.
It would be interesting to see how the more stupid characters would look in girl form.

That's not the "truth." I am eating a donut right now, as you can see. That is the "truth."

This is quite the bizarre conundrum. A "virtual dopplegänger" it's giving me "ideas" for my manga.

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fucking use a surname that would peak Jotaro's interest like Avdol or Iggy, and explain the effects of the arrow that way

There are criticisms of JoJo that have merit in them such as an ability coming up and never being brought up again, but you complaining about how a italian mold joker could not realistically hide in a helicopter just isn't one of those. .

This

It's a side of his character that doesn't exist but it's fun to think about.

Yes but you can't tell me that you didn't get goosebumps when Polnareff returned with THIS:
>youtube.com/watch?v=zxjjie1Ohio

I think most people already liked King Crimson for the design and how terrifying it is, despite the memes. Diavolo's voice is also very good which might help

what if Jotaro was busy at the time, he seemed to be a busy man, realistically at that point he should have been dealing with his divorce

I hope they use Don't Get Lost in Heaven by Gorillaz.

I want King crimson to chop my head off

thematic moments and things like them are inherently more interesting if they make sense and tie into the world of the story in a logical way.
Also I'm pretty sure the whole positive/negative hamon thing was introduced at the hell climb pillar and it hardly matters anyways since hamon has already been shown to have qualities similar to electricity. Expanding on them this way makes sense due to what is already established about hamon. Its also entirely reasonable that they wouldn't think to use or be unable to acquire UV lights while on their trip to Egypt and UV lights have been questionable in their strength so far regardless.

Damn, is that you Hirohito Araki-sensei? Why did you murder that black family?

Unless they don't like how how the final arc reduces him to a body swapping gag

the stardust crusaders OST is so underated honestly
youtube.com/watch?v=D2L4r0Aelvg

And we got 2 recap episodes instead this is a bad thing.

Also I noticed something in your picture the zipper is open where his hands are.
In the anime the zipper is fully closed and the hand is supposed to be zipped in place or something (???) (!!!).

This is why I was so confused I was thinking he removed his hart or some organs.

I love part 1
Johnathan crying over killing dio [the second time kek] really got to me and it felt real
"why is this man crying over killing a monster
the monster was his brother"
I think Johnathan really cared for Dio in a way you don't see elsewhere that brother bond
I think held in Johnathan's arms Dio knew he fucked up and had regret in being such a asshole you know till part 3 came and messed things
part 1 dio and part 3 DIO are super different but that might just be what 100 years of solitude did to him
I love part 1 but its hard to say every reason why

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they're supposed to look like statues, seriously.

but the body swapping shit is cool, i like that it involves the entire gang (rip narancia) instead of just Giorno doing everything by himself

do you think he would want to be a better dad then his dad if he found out any of his kids exsisted

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That pic makes me angry. He shouldn't have his blonde hair yet.

Could be worse, it might be Destiny's Child.

Uv lights killed vampires easily in part 2, which makes it especially odd that joseph wouldnt bring them.

i don't think he would have been a good father figure at all, he would have respected Giorno but he probably would have hated how much he resembles Jonathan and would have tried to kill him
And same goes for Gio, if he hated how evil Ciocolatta was then he'd probably hate DIO even more.

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>he seemed to be a busy man
busy hunting stand users all over the globe, which lead to him fucking around in a japanese town full of stand users for a few months
Diavolo and pretty much his entire organization is filled with stand users, which should align with Jotaro's priorities

I can't remember a single moment that song plays that wasn't great. Every Kakyoin fight + some Polnareff vs Devo and J Geil. It made even a short throwaway fight like Tower of Grey memorable

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he didn't intend to go to Morioh but he did so in place of Joseph, he had a personal reason to go there that directly related to his family, compared to going to Italy where he didn't have a real reason to be there other than Polnareff and even then it was too much of a risk, what if he died and left Jolyne behind? i don't think Jotaro would have risked that

Based

>things i dont value are post modern
Go back to listening to Jordan Peterson, it suits you better than anime

>mind control hamon
the mind control thing is a bit of a stretch but hamon has been shown before that point to be capable of knocking people unconcious and affecting people's bodies so its not COMPLETELY out of nowhere

>stroheim survived a point-blank grenade
German science is the greatest. Its not like that would have vaporized him and there was almost certainly medical equipment and doctors nearby.

>kars volcano shit
All of that bs is really just a way of letting Joseph live. I won't defend it logically because its totally outside the realm of possibility that Joseph would survive but I'll accept it since it was really the only way he could.

>hamon suddenly has positive/negative charges
Hamon has been seen to have attributes similar to that of electricity so while there isn't much setup for it(because it was never really relevant before hell-climb) its not at all a stretch that it would have positive/negative charges.

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What the fuck even happened in the Oasis fight? Did Bruno just pop a tire? Is that really loud enough to burst your eardrums?

How good are Italian donuts?

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He was interested in Morioh because he had family there. It's not his job to stop every evil stand user on the planet.

If youre close to it and in a liquid, yes.

They have semen as filling.

but he specifically went there to look for Angelo

Yet they are 100% compatible with the human body.
>end world hunger?
Is a meme niggers are niggers in Africa this is all.
The real benefit of this is to heal people who have lost their limbs.
Fuck he should simply contact some super rich guy who has lost his arms and demand money to repair him.
He should be like the one guy from heroes who did only have healing powers and because he did heal super rich people for shit loads of money he was super rich himself and created a organization with his money.

Daily reminder healing is the most op power out there.

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Underground, resonance, them talking about how sounds are way stronger inside, etc

Why not blond?

>OP1
youtu.be/0lPQZni7I18
>OP2 (gay priest is here now)
youtu.be/4qlCC1GOwFw
>OP3 (C-Moon)
youtube.com/watch?v=lsjKK_s_nyY
>OP4 (Made in Heaven)
youtube.com/watch?v=ymNFyxvIdaM

To be fair the Nazi's then had an extended fight with the vampires after they initially shredded the vampires Joseph was fighting so I'm not sure how effective they're meant to be. Jojo isn't exactly consistent with damage/power output of things if Jotaro's fight against Dio is anything to go by.

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Because Angelo was in the same town as his uncle

>Read through all of part 6
>No explanation to why Dio had 4 (possibly more) sons
I thought he just saw women as food

I hope Secco is fine

I also like to know this.

I don't know, he didn't really seem to give a shit about Josuke until he noticed his stand

cars are fucking loud as shit, even being near a car's alarm is really loud and can actually damage your eardrums, now imagine that but 10 times louder thanks to the underground expanding the sound waves

DIO fucks.

Theres no reason not to bring one, its incredibly useful even if it only harms dio a small amount.

Out of all the bullshit in Part 6, DIO pumping and dumping some random whores isn't that bad

He also had an anal baby with pucci.

Imagine being so butt blasted. You can not answer it, because it makes no sense.

nigga he had the body of a god and lot of free time to use it at his will, he didn't have the internet to browse through Yea Forums and shitpost like you do

it's not cool for the boss to reveal himself after his appearance was teased for half a season only for him to immediately fall asleep and spend the majority of the final battle hiding in someone else's body

DIO is the kind of guy who has a black friend but hates niggers.

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He was looking for Josuke from the beginning

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he probably just intended to check on Josuke and leave, but seeing his stand got his priorities changed

The entire fight revolves around it. And then we have the bullet guys cracking for no reason whatsoever.
Pretty illogical.

Early Koichi was kino.

Secco's stand is inside his body I guess?

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What? His stand is just a suit type stand.

I really liked DIO and loved Kira.
Not a fan of the split personality thing or Doppio.

Quite the opposite, it's outside, it's the suit

his name is (you don't need to remember) Guanglai Kangyi

>Diavolo
Whats the meaning of this name? Is there one?

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Get a feeling so complicated

Maybe. Joseph is the only one who has experience with vampires and he's also pretty old so maybe he just forgot

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ah i see

Maybe the speedwagon foundation wouldve given it to him? They know about vampires and about dio

He knew which part he could remove because he was a top surgeon. So removed, he'll live more through the power of the stands, after that he'd fix himself. Since every stand user can control hammon energy, he'd heal, just like other characters.

Dude...he’s evil...so he’s the devil...so deep

He's truly redpilled. He may have gone a bit too far though.

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locally of course

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>UV lights while
I like to interject for a moment.
Its entirety possible the UV lights would be smashed by some attack on them and thy think that they only slow them down considering how insane the trip to Egypt was.

The submarine itself would have ruined the lights 9.99/10

if you read part 4 and 5 with good translations you read it wrong 啊

What about the helicopter that brought iggy?

>Jotaro gets Dio's stands power, for some reason
I believe it's the other way around, Dio copied Jotaro's power. I believe Dio's power is to copy the power of the JoJo's, because he's using Jonathan's body.

the problem is not that he removed his body parts, is how the fuck could he control them by putting the mold on them?

Never seen a badly translated part 5, how was it?

I wish somestuffs weren't so damn slow

Its a part of his abilities

His stand?

Maybe if his stand was like Justice and he could control anybody who had mold on it

See:

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If one of the main points of Part 3 is that they couldn’t use public transportation, why did they take a train from Singapore?

It seemed that he actually could use the mold whenever he wanted, but he chose like that to spread faster.

Alternative physics from Araki

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His stand just had a little extra kick to it than a normal monster of the week character

His range of abilities (Mold, Remote controlled limbs, quick stitching) isn't actually that crazy when you consider the toolkits a lot of main characters and villains get with their stands.

The Pillar men are not vampires though.

So where do you download it from?

>the devil.
In what language is this?

So... When B uses his stand, the underground turns solid so he can run through it, but as Secoo catches up, it becomes liquid... Wait, what the fuck is happening in this chase?

Italy

>the devil
In jojo the devil pisses himself in fear because Cioccolata ... likes to film the people he kills? Not a good start for the ultimate evil.

Italian

Thanks somehow the wiki did not say this and this info is hard to find.

I believe that Diavolo is his third personality, isn't it?

Girls, we might need a new thread.

You know the devil was an angel at one point, right stupid?

He hid somewhere where the Sex Pistols couldn't find him and the mold killed the Pistols.
Fucking simple as shit explanation, but you're too autistic to let it go.

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eh this is allready my second jojo thread today I probaly will not come along for a 3rd

Dud I did not get to this part yet don't spoil.
What was so sick about Cioccolata? He liked to kill people and film it.

He's not afraid of Ciocolatta. He finds him revolting. Even Diavolo isn't that much a psycho

almost unreadable

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It's also a reference to Dio, which means God. Giorno, the son of Dio must defeat Diavolo.

Hence all the Christian imagery with Giorno and Golden Experience.

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I don't think (you) have to imagine being that but blasted

>and the mold killed the Pistols.
With is not what was shown and looked totally different form the mold.
Also the bullets did not go down before cracking.
nice try jojo fanboy.

I get jojo from horriblesubs.info/shows/jojos-bizarre-adventure-golden-wind/
but I also recommend nyaa.si/ for pretty much anything related to anime/manga

For the longest time they had shit translation AND even shittier scans for part 5 only, 6 and 7 were ok, but I didn't want to skip and so I read through horrible pages like those a few years ago

And?

Cioccolata was particularly sadistic. I mean, Diavolo kept his mother trapped under the floor for years and kept her alive just to torture her. He also burnt down an entire village just because and tried to kill his daughter.

But Cioccolata got pleasure from killing others. The more he killed, the better he felt. His stand also had no restraints at all and would kill the entire world if left unchecked.

He was power hungry (like Diavolo). Not sadistic

Him and Chocolate are just different kinds of evil

>Hey Giorno did you happen to chop off my dick when we were napping bro
god I only read the good part 5 this is gut shakeing funny

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I bet you think Evangelion has deep Christian symbolism too

>He finds him revolting
When the devil thinks you are to sick, for taking videos of dead people.
Not a great start.

> Even Diavolo isn't that much a psycho
I bet DIO and Kira would not even bat a eye on this especially Kira.
However Mr Devil himself thinks its taking things to far.

Seriously its character assassination especially that I was expecting Cioccolata to be a necrophiliac or worse. However there is this thing named professionalism and leaving you minions do their thing.

Daily reminders people with the greatest titles are the biggest pussies and crack.