Why hasn't Bang revealed Saitama's power to the Hero Association?
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Bang retired, but he and Genos already did reveal that Saitama was extremely powerful which is why he was in the Shibabawa meeting
the Hero Association already knows Saitama is strong, he broke all the records and defeats monsters in One Punch, Man.
its why he keeps progressing despite rumors of him being a cheat.
you have to realise that the Hero association despite being extremely corrupt with entrenched power dynamics, is still functional.
the coming webcomic arc is going to be dealing with a rival hero association that is run by yakuza, expect a hero vs hero war with Saitama kicking literally everyones ass single handedly
>Orochi took one normal punch
Even Elder Centipede required a Serious one, da fuq?
So Orochi is not even Boros/ monster Garo level?
Elder centipede only got serious punched for two reasons. A normal punch would have killed him but sent his corpse flying which is why king told him to use a different punch. Though the other reason was because Saitama was releasing stress from his losses agaisnt King.
He never really was the final boss of the arc so of course he wouldn't be their level. Though he is strong as hell and seemingly close especially with that blast he did with his dragons.
Mob psycho > one joke man
>Even Elder Centipede required a Serious one, da fuq?
Using a move from his serious series doesn't mean that Saitama's opponent is strong or pushing him to use such a move. There's a reason why they had Saitama using Serious consecutive sidesteps on Sonic.
It's like playing a fighting game. Don't matter what you use to win when you're at 100% HP and the enemy is literally at 1 hit from death.
Who are you trying to persuade with this shittery?
Yourself?
because m4 is cool, just like the birds.
>Being this dumb
Suck my fat balls.
Because no one worth a damn gives a single fuck about the retarded ranking system, sweetmask is the only one that cares and even then he only cares about leaving shitters out of S class.
He's been going at it for months, literally since MP100 season two came out
Beyond pathetic.
So im rereading the web comic and I'm pretty sure Saitama is Blast.
I know the age difference is a big factor but I think some time shit is going to happen via God or some other weird shit
There is literally no reason for him to be Blast. Why are people this stupid, I don't get it, it actually makes me sad.
Yes there is you fucking STUPID NIGGER. FUCK YOU
YOU'RE STUPID. STUPID FUCKHEAD, LMAO BRO, I BET EVERYONE YOU KNOW CALLS YOU STUPID, FUCKING IDIOT
Woah calm down there bro...
You are right though.
He isn't and only a braindead retard would think something like that plausible
There is not a single thing that points towards that being the case.
Same reason he didn't say anything when the citizens were shouting for Saitama's resignation after the asteroid incident. He doesn't want Saitama to get dragged down by all the petty bullshit.
This is Saitama's wife. Say something nice about her
Someone post the anime fire version.
Amazing how far above Atomic Samurai is above his peers. Even after monsterfication dude couldn't hold a candle.
>Boros thought he took damage
Even if he did take it it wasn't much plus its disproven with the fact of his third form doing nothing to him even when he launched Saitama to the moon.
We haven't seen how the other three masters fight. I'm guessing AS is the best one but maybe the others are closer to him.
The one who is hold as fuck with glowing eye looks like tough shit.
Plottwist: Monster Garou is Orochi.
Garou getting his monster transformation being punched away never made sense. That's not how natural monsterfication works. So Orochi acting as the armor would be the most viable explanation.
He has a point though. The majority of opm fans don't give a shit about the story. They only care about Saitama one punching shit.
>not the fucking SHHHHWWSHHH searing fire effect they used three times for no reason
post the page where king cuts the apple
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Only acceptable tier list. No debate. No discussion.
Goddamn this is great. The chapter with King at the restaurant with those hitmen has to be my favorite OPM chapter by far.
I love how King was credited for dealing with Elder
If you excuse my meddling I hope something like this is what you had imagined
>Can’t even unsheathe the sword
Just how weak is King exactly?
but user, he unsheathed it and cut the apple between the atoms so quickly nobody was able to see it
I wonder what tier God will be in. I agree with all of that by the way. I questioned Metal Knight at first, but then I figured it's taking into account his full arsenal rather than just a single unmanned drone. I especially appreciate that Vaccine Man, Rhino, and Marugori aren't forgotten or undersold.
Sonic with equipment can beat rain form Sea king?
One said dry form not rain form.
Where is "God"?
That could happen, specially with Garou stealing others techniques.
He might have actually taken damage. I mean an ant bite is still damage
My only problem is Vaccine Man being there twice.
Glasses is on par with A class heroes?
We don't know much like Blast all we can say for sure is that he's most likely decently stronger than a strong dragon.
>Phoenix Man lower than Child Emperor
>Presence of Blast
>Suiryu higher than octopus
>Metal Knight higher than Elder Centipede
Trash and redditard tier
>
You fool, couldn't follow his movements
Metal Knight has dragon level robots as seen in the webcomic
disappointing
I wish her boobs where bigger
but that would ruin her, she'd just be a shortstack
Murata has increased her bust by a cupsize tho
all that make you grow milk must be helping
>Only acceptable tier list. No debate. No discussion.
Final monster garou is weaker than Boros, sorry fag
Maybe now since he survived he may be stronger than before, but not Boros level
But Blast is there.
Mob psycho 100/10 > shit > you user
Well, that's the point. He can't even take this much damage
Why is Phoenix Man lower than CE after him failing with all of his measures except the one that only worked on him because he happened to be ticklish?
That's because the majority are normalfags and/or Dbzfags. Most people on Yea Forums and other forums care about the story
same reason why Black Sperm is only mid tier and put at the same tier as Atomic.
Child Emp got the better of Phoenix Man in most of their exchanges, but the problem is that just kept powering Phoenix Man up more. So his placement relative to CE is a bit like Zombieman being lower than Pureblood Vampire, i.e. CE was consistently capable of unleashing more raw power, but Phoenix's ability to resurrect stronger coupled with CE's time limit is what made things dicey. Also CE was protecting a hostage at the same time too
Garou's monster transformation is akin to Phoenix Man's. Garou simply grew out his own birdbrain costume with monster powers. Monster transformation is wonky as hell, and Best Birb already demonstrated that a transformation like this could happen regeneration and all, with the guy inside still coming back to human once the suit is broken.
Think of a Marvel symbiote.
Phoenix Man fight is underrated and good.
> based bird LITTERALLY has the biggest fight of the series so far
Just because he's weaker doesn't mean he isn't in the same tier ffs. There's no point splitting God tier up when there's only two characters that even classify
How can one brird have more IQ than Child Emperor, Metal Knight and Kuseno put together?!
That's wrong, headcanon retard. ONE literally says that Monster Garou is so powerful ONE can't tell who'd win between him and Boros anymore. They're in the exact same tier.
factual and based
I agree with pretty much all of this except Blast. I don't know why we're even trying to categorise him yet.
Is Garou /ourguy/?
Trash list. Atomic Samurai is leagues above the gay ninjas.
>Sonic
>Flashy
>Garou
Murata is so gay.
>That's wrong, headcanon retard. ONE literally says that Monster Garou is so powerful ONE can't tell who'd win between him and Boros anymore. They're in the exact same tier.
Uh, Boros sent saitama to the moon with a kneekick
Garou didn't even faze him
Bang says this but still thinks King's power is real
>Just because he's weaker doesn't mean he isn't in the same tier ffs. There's no point splitting God tier up when there's only two characters that even classify
God level is classified as a danger of humankind being wiped as a whole.
Dragon = 1 city
Garou is clearly not at the level to wipe out humankind
Great bird.
>Lighting can't hit me if I cut it first.
Based high IQ Atomic Shad.
dragon means several cities. Demon is one.
You're supposed to understand the context. Humanity if fucked if there are no heroes. So the real baseline is if heroes can beat him or not. If a monster kills all the heroes humanity is good as fucked.
bad writing
>dragon means several cities. Demon is one.
Damn you're right
So garou is maybe not even dragon
No, they don't know how strong he is. They know he's broke all records but they don't know he one punches monsters since it's all attributed to King.
Also it's never mentioned the New Heroes are run by the Yakuza.
Cute couple.
you're retarded, man. Fucking Bakuzan is considered dragon.
>they don't know he one punches monsters since it's all attributed to King.
the ones that are attributed to him are known to be done in one punch
the neo heroes being yakuza is conjecture by me
What's with people downplaying Bakuzan? All he did was job to Gouketsu.
I always felt this page was really under-appreciated. People like to claim how idiotic Atomic and his disciples are for believing King when he did nothing, yet it's no different than how Saitama acts. Saitama constantly leaves himself wide open and acts like a complete amateur whenever he fights.
Birds are really smart, user.
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yep, because king is the anti-saitama
and thats the joke
his feats are
> bullying an already defeated Suiryu
> utterly humiliated by Gouketsu
> Suiryu with two legs and one arm broken still manages to break his toe
Gouketsu did defend against all his attacks, he still seemingly deserves his rank but he's quite full bottom tier.
Why is it so hard to find the whole webcomic in English bros?
Why would he think otherwise though? The Hero's Association had somehow vouched for him, and after meeting Saitama, he knows powerful people don't always need to stand out to prove they are powerful.
God level means danger to all of humankind. It doesn’t specify how humankind must be destroyed and if it needs to be destroyed at all.
Garou doesn’t need to shoot pew pews to destroy every hero and civvie on his way. The fact that no one but Saitama can stop him means he’s a God level or the so called Above Dragon level because Boros was also never called a God.
because you have a low IQ
There was one part where Bang asked King to move a boulder off him and King couldn't do it and had to ask for help. I always figured that was when the jig was up, but I guess not.
I really want to read it though
They literally added a leopard skin texture in the background.
What was the exact dialogue? Because I can see King not saying he can't but won't and everyone misunderstanding as usual.
Try fucking searching it.
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>uh
>muh kicking a Saitama ragdoll
You’re not just retarded but a shitposter as well.
Boros did absolute jackshit in the webcomic, he touched Saitama once in fucking Meteoric Burst and it did nothing.
Garou is literally confirmed to be stronger than Boros in hand to hand by ONE.
>Most people on Yea Forums and other forums care about the story
kek
Does new chapter release today?
>Fubuki
>Tatsumaki
>Tank top girl
>Mizuki
>Literally any girl he draws
Murata is so straight.
I know the scene he's talking about. It's after Saitama hits Garou in the face and lectures him. Bang is stuck under a large boulder that he can't move because of back problems, he asks King to toss it aside, and King asks Fubuki to move it, which she does effortlessly
Latest translation from the Chinese forum (reddit):
>Q: How about kicking to Mars during Garou arc?
>A:(Laugh) That's doesn't sound bad, each battle has to be more shocking than the previous one. Anyway I already have few of the scenes set up in my mind.
this
Yes.
Garou in the webcomic already managed to counter Saitama, tank multiple attacks, instantly regenerate from a serious series, parry a two-handed series, send Saitama flying with a punch and change several forms on the fly.
It’s Boros who never fazed Saitama. He’s actually a complete shitter without the manga. Garou who is already impressive in the webcomic will get manga upgrades. Murata can go balls to the wall with him because Garou has supernatural transformative abilities and Murata literally quotes ONE’s words about Garou being at least just as strong as Boros according to ONE-sensei when retards like you pestered him about Boros on stream.
That wasn't a serious series combo he got serious by using the serious table flip, we literally seen him get half his body exploded by a serious headbutt
Based once again. Murata also said Garou’s fight with Saitama will have an even larger scale than Boros’.
>instantly regenerate from a serious series
Stopped reading here
He only used a single serious headbutt
What combo you dumbfuck? Garou instantly regenerated from a direct serious series ATTACK in the webcomic and parried a two-handed consecutive series, you illiterate faggot. Jesus, you need everything spoonfed to you.
>Does new chapter release today?
ONE?
It’s a serious series MOVE, you absolute imbecile. A direct one as well. Learn English before claiming you read shit at all.
yeah but he also lost to Charanko of all people in the tournament
He got overwhelmed and hit by the punch combo (his two hand consecutive strikes I don't give a fuck what it's called) he thinks to himself "I'm being overwhelmed". As for his regen there's no reason to assume that a serious punch and a serious headbutt are in remotely the same league of power remember Saitama has no training in martial arts his headbutt vs punch power ratio should be the same difference in power as a normal person's punch and headbutt
What are Jesus's power levels?
>People thinking Orochi is dead
Just like Mosquito Girl, he didn't explicitly die, he just flew/fell out of sight horribly mangled. Dunno why people think they're dead.
Murata.
Orochi will fall down to a horrified Gyoro Gyoro and Tats will finish him off
There is no power level behind his serious moves, retards. He names the moves so he can sound cool, like Genos.
>SAITAMA: What’s next…right, I need a cool name for my attacks.
>S: Oh by the way, what are your names like?
>GENOS: Machine Gun Blow, Boost Attack, stuff like that
>S: What the hell, those sound really badass!
>S: Machine Gun Blow!
>S: Boost Attack!
>S: Wow, they really do sound cool!
>G: As for Sensei, how about something like…
>G: Shining---Attack? Or how about Lighting---Punch?
>S: Stop it, I’m not THAT shiny, okay?
>S: It would be nice to announce my moves in a cool voice, but saying them casually, then winning with ease isn’t bad either.
>S: Like that guy who isn’t even a hero, Sonic-what’s-his-name?
>G: Speed-o'-Sound (laughs) Sonic
>S: Yeah that’s right! Something or other Shuriken! Something or other kick! Stuff like that…
>G: The fact that you don’t even remember them worries me.
>G: There is however something to be said about winning without breaking a sweat, it sounds like a good overall approach.
>S: Hmm…winning with style or winning with ease, I don’t want to give up either one.
>G: That might not be necessary, there might be a way to have the cake and eat it too.
>S: Oh?
>G: There’s no character limit when it comes to naming your moves, you can add as many favorite words as you like.
>S: That’s right, even a lengthy name could sound like a cool incantation!
>G: Since Saitama Sensei’s battles are usually over after a single punch
>G: I think it’s okay to spend some extra time on announcing the moves.
>S: Alright, let’s include all the cool words!
>G: What about for example, we include some obscure words in order to sound more intelligent?
>S: Oh good idea, let’s add some literary phrases while we’re at it.
It's basic imagery: Garou was just pretending and was still human on the inside.
Garou still managed to parry the TWO-HANDED consecutive series for a while and didn't even lose limbs or get injured much when he eventually started feeling overwhelmed and decided to keep his distance.
Instantly regenerating from a direct serious series attack is a tremendous feat too. More like there's absolutely no reason to downplay it like you're desperately trying to. And if you're going to compare real life headbutts and punches, the skull being so tough also makes headbutts freaking deadly. Saitama's skull is bloody unbreakable, he hits hard as fuck.
thats Saitama's secret cap
he's never serious
who do you think, other than tatsumaki and saitama, could beat marugori?
Dude
Saitama was holding off A LOT because
1. Garou is a human (for him)
2. He thinks Garou is not serious about his "hobby" so he's weak
Fucking deluded, I bet you are homo for him too
His dick would kill Tatsumaki before she can come near him.
Saitama's fists are also unbreakable so what we'd really have to go on is the relative speed he could get with a headbutt vs punch
That's obvious. He still distinguishes serious series moves and those are moves that blow shit up on a much larger scale and range than normal series moves do. He can literally vaporize a city sized creature with a serious series move.
The sheer amount of headcanon bullshit in this community that completely ignores clearly established exposition on how monsters are made is nothing short of amazing.
Yeah no, he shot a fucking God-tier hellfire and brimstone beam right below where he was. If tats and gyoro were down there, they're fucking dead or falling towards the center of the earth.
I mean he's a marvelfag
They both can make psycho shields, retard
Which is what the second one is. If they were below him, the ground below them is fucking gone for miles and Gyoro can't fly in her weakened state.
Saitama was actually actively trying not to kill Garou the whole fight aside from the first couple of punches. He said it himself. He didn't want to just kill Garou because he knew Garou was just a delusional human being.
Retard.
Saitama always holds back against everybody, he's got all the power in the world available to him. Doesn't change the fact that he uses by far the biggest amount of huge ass moves on Garou and Garou manages to counter, tank and regenerate from them.
Saitama literally thinks and states Garou is strong and is interested in Garou going all out, that's why he dishes out so much against him in the first place.
You're actually a deranged shitposter. Murata redrawing Awakened Garou is bound to give you an aneurysm at this rate.
And Saitama can throw any part of his body at any speed he wants.
The garou-homo will not listen to reason
This will be further elaborated when the manga comes around. In the last chapter Saitama specifically said that since he was going up against a genuine monster, he wouldn't hold back. Saitama didn't even consider Overgrown Rover a true monster.
>Garouniggers powerlevelfags
『serious series:serious walking』
Saitama was actually actively trying to make Garou go all out and didn't give a shit if he blew up Garou's side even though he knew absolute fuck all about Garou's ability to instantly regenerate. He wasn't anywhere near as careful as you delusionally pretend. He threw a lot of stuff at Garou, which Garou managed to take real well.
I don't think this should be taken too seriously. Saitama tought Garou was a normal thug the three times he one shoted him yet he still put enough power into it to ko him, which would have realistically killed a real normal thug.
Also since Saitama expects every fight to end in one shot, Garou genuinely surprised him with his ability to keep fighting unaffected. The very first punch that Garou ended up simply shrugging off took ONE three pages to illustrate in the webcomic version. Just think what it's going to look like in the manga.
Yeah that punch was huge as fuck.
> . The very first punch that Garou ended up simply shrugging off took ONE three pages to illustrate in the webcomic version. Just think what it's going to look like in the manga.
In general, ONE just put far more focus on illustrating what was going on in the final Garou fight.
Yeah that was no joke. It's sort of conflictong Saitama realized from the get-go that Garou was a softie. He knew that Garou fought in a way to avoid killing people, so it's almost like he tried to kill him regardless.
everything was so damn impactless in that episode
no proper sound and visual effects for solid hits
Q: Anything you are not good at drawing?
A: I used to struggle when I'm drawing Saitama, as for now I'd say Tatsumaki, I'm not good in drawing loli, I like drawing thick figure.
>being an eyelet
Not really, ONE still omitted things. Manga blatantly goes into much more detail and upscales stuff a lot. Also ONE has reached a point where he draws consecutive DOUBLE SPREADS for manga drafts (see Elder Centipede). Murata already spoke about enhancing Garou's fight in the manga, which is natural.
>Manga blatantly goes into much more detail and upscales stuff a lot.
I know. Just saying ONE clearly put far more focus into the Garou fight that he usually does.
probably Darkshine, but it'd be a REALLY tough battle that'd result in way too much collateral damage, MAYBE Metal Knight has enough robots to be able to do something, but I kind of doubt it. Really, without Saitama the OPM world is fucking doomed. Fucking ENW could probably solo every hero rank 8 and lower at the same time.
Also, side note, I really don't think Phoenix Man is dead. He's alive and is gonna get a power boost again, then fix up Orochi then get eaten by him.
At 11am east time at the earliest.
it's probably my favourite of the series, on par with garou vs A class
Im expecting todays chapter being a setup(likely Atomic Samurai vs Black Sperm)
Nice.
Where's King? The only person that haven't lost a match against Saitama.
disaster level isn't only about sheer destructive power
it's also about combat ability
so far second season gave us:
>ruined suiryu ark
>speedreaders
>a namefag spamming every thread
>powerlevelfags spamming every thread
>shonenfags spamming every thread
i want comfy threads back bros
webcomic threads are still comfy
I love this page
and I love ENW
my boy better put on a damned good showing
but phoenix man lost his power
the costume was destroyed
I really can't wait for ENW in the manga. maybe in two years
Depends on his durability. If it's similar to Gums' then any top S-class can just sneak next to his head and go ham at it. Maybe even current Genos with his retarded firepower. Flash idk since he doesn't have any big area attack.
i know basing his durability using saitama is stupid, but he is one of the few monsters that doesn't explode when saitama punches them
>Boros gets turned into applesauce by Consecutive Normal Punches and only survives due to hax regen
>God Slayer Instant Attack is so strong that Saitama counters it with Two-Handed Consecutive Normal Punches which Garou withstands
Boris is weak shit compared to Gary
disturbing lack of cute tats ITT
Tats wearing an apron and cooking my breakfast.
The delusion holy shit
>All those awesome animation drafts from outsourced animators for episode 8 which were absolutely ruined and simplified by JC staff
The trainwreck that keeps on giving.
Only and only pedophiles prefer this
>Q: How about kicking to Mars during Garou arc?
>A:(Laugh) That's doesn't sound bad, each battle has to be more shocking than the previous one. Anyway I already have few of the scenes set up in my mind.
Rather than repetitively kicking Saitama to a farther planet, I was thinking along the lines of utilizing Earth. Since underground battles are a theme in this arc and Garou instantly retaliates from Saitama punching him underground in the webcomic, Garou and Saitama in the manga can literally barrel straight through Earth, going to the core or the other side of the planet, which is even more epic than flying through empty air.
Delusion?
I just listed two true facts, user. You can read the webcomic to check for yourself.
it really just depends on whether you believe Saitama was trying just as hard against Garou as he was against Boros (I know I know Saitama never tries hard) or if you believe he was holding back purposefully in order to push Garou to his limit and was actively trying not to kill him. If Saitama was fighting at the exact same level against Boros as he fought against Garou, then the latter is probably stronger, but it's difficult for a lot of anons to accept that Saitama actually was fighting at that same level given the context of Garou and his struggle with humanity.
Unrelated, do you think we'll see the Organization in the Neo Hero arc, or do you think it's gonna happen later?
I hope so
organisation means genos shenanigans, and I miss seeing him in action
No wonder about those. Garou is confirmed to be more powerful than Boros in h2h, that's why he's able to actually parry shit like that, and Garou is also tanky as fuck on top of having regen too.
If Saitama wasn't trying as hard when fighting Garou as he was when fighting Boros, why would he use Two-Handed Consecutive Punches against the former but One-Handed against the latter? Also, why would he use a point-blank Serious Series move at Garou's chest? I've heard people make the argument that "but it wasn't a SERIOUS Serious Series move!" which is just bullshit in my opinion.
As for the Organization I have no idea. I expected them to be the central focus of the next arc but that doesn't seem to be happening, unless they're actually behind the Neo Heroes. It's interesting that they've been hyped up for so long but haven't shown anything more impressive than some decently strong robots. We haven't seen anything that actually makes them look stronger than the Monster Association was.
With garou he was just fucking him. Also his serious headbutt was aimed at his fist not his chest.
I'm not saying that I disagree with you that Garou is stronger, but playing devil's advocate here you can't really trust the names of the moves somebody uses. If we're trusting the names of moves to determine how much strength is being used then Boros is star level and I can't accept that. Also, I'm not really sure where you're getting the "one handed consecutive normal punches" versus "two handed consecutive normal punches". Maybe the translation I read was different but both time its just said "consecutive normal punches" and made no distinction as to whether he was using one or two hands.
>Since underground battles are a theme in this arc and Garou instantly retaliates from Saitama punching him underground in the webcomic, Garou and Saitama in the manga can literally barrel straight through Earth, going to the core or the other side of the planet, which is even more epic than flying through empty air.
That's actually a neat idea. Traversing through planet earth and going near its core is feats galore. Alternatively they could run around the whole globe in an instant.
Wait so that's it? That fight was kinda underwhelming
anybody got the anime version of this? Saw it just a couple days ago but didn't save it
So, the cyborg Genos hunts is probably some Metal Knight or Drive Knight creation, right?
>Also, I'm not really sure where you're getting the "one handed consecutive normal punches" versus "two handed consecutive normal punches".
He's getting it from the source material because he's not a speedreader. Besides the clear translation, Saitama is also drawn using two hands.
99% sure it's a metal knight thing.
The cyborg Genos is hunting is Genos himself. Dr. Kuseno gave him fake memories.
Kuseno is also the leader of the Organization. Bofoi is a good guy.
>Rover not in top dragon tier
Disappointing, but alright
Why are Mutata's ninja boys so sexy?
What did you expect especially with Saitama involved?
looks like two hands to me
I wonder if military still officialy exists in OPM world, or they are completely dismembered and replaced by pro heroes?
This.
looks like one hand here, but he doesn't say "one handed combo"
>I wonder if military still officialy exists in OPM world, or they are completely dismembered and replaced by pro heroes?
Why did you post this again VERBATIM instead of reading the source material?
BTFO
I don't know but his other "fights" were more satisfying to read
Those are both me retard I was comparing the two for the other user
No, he uses a one-handed version against Boros, which is simply called "normal consecutive punches combo".
He uses that against Garou in the air AND a two-handed version right afterwards when Garou goes at him with the God Slayer. Both are named appropriately.
>powerlevelfags in a manga explicitly deconstructing powerlevels
The anime also made it blatantly clear Saitama used only one hand against Boros.
It might be because you expected it to be more due to all the shit Orochi was expected to pull put since he didn't try agaisnt Garou.
what do you mean by power level? is saying "X character is stronger than Y character" being a power level fag? when does it stop being just trying to figure out where characters stand in relation to one another and start being power level fagging?
Fuck off newfag.
>is saying "X character is stronger than Y character" being a power level fag?
yes
you're attempting to quantify imagined power and "rank" people
that's the fucking definition of powerlevelfagging
>Orochi in top dragon tier
HAHAHA
>retards discussing about how many hands Saitama used
kek
Too pure for our world..
I don't even know why the fuck I go to OPM threads anymore. They're borderline parodies.
vampire was so much better in the webcomic
>Those are both me retard I was comparing the two for the other user
I know
Other user was btfo by you
>quantify imagined power and "rank" people
>imagined power
>imagined
What the fuck are you talking about? I could understand you if people were talking about characters that have no feats to compare, then it WOULD be power level fagging, but if you're comparing things the characters ACTUALLY DID IN THE SERIES how the hell is that "imagined power"?
I prefer the manga version really.
>some literalwho using a literalwho growth formula creates one of the strongest dragons ever
This has always bothered me, like what the fuck
To laugh.
he looks cool but his fight was lame, like it got skipped over
and I prefer when nameniggers kill themselves, but we can't always have nice things
>the power of a Tank Top wearer's obsession for being the strongest man
>plus the power of his brother's obsession for creating drugs
I don't see the problem, guy had a Tank Top
It felt like the manga at the beginning when it added a fairly good amount of new shit from the webcomic while keeping a decent sense of pace. I was honestly expecting 4 chapters chock full of dragged out bullshit between the two of them.
How? Or are you talking about the end result not being shown?
Ok
>ONE literally answers questions about power levels and matchups in interviews
OPM isn't deconstructing anything, you mongoloid. It's a comedy action series.
Why Metal Knight on the same level as golden sperm?
so just because he didn't specifically say he was using two hands he couldn't possibly have used two hands? seems like a simple way of looking at it, I wouldn't trust the names of the moves so much, dude.
I think emperor got a longer fight than Flash and Zombieman due to just trying to get rid of all of his aces before fighting Evil Natural water and the fact Phoenixman had more development. Zombieman and Flash had nice little extentipns to their fights.
Silver Fang versus Gouketsu, the Super Fight we should have gotten
I did wish Gouketsu lasted longer to fight some s class and Bang.
a OPM fighting game with a ton of characters, including ones who got one-shot, would be really cool
>blast being on the list at all
>MK in top dragon
>sonic and genos not being exactly the same
>"Only acceptable tier list"
>each battle has to be more shocking than the previous one.
This is a dangerous mentality when you are incorporating vertical power levels into a battle series. Garou shouldn't be much different from his webcomic counterpart, a martial artist who is incredibly strong but not in the same way a frieza expy is. I liked some ideas that were pitched around in a previous thread for how Monster Garou would scale up in the manga rewrite
>Moves so fast he borderline achieves ZA WARUDO state
>Rising uppercut still barely launches Saitama off the ground but shockwave after the fact
>better emphasis on how well he can read Saitama by using afterimages and stuff
Garou shouldn't be punching his way through the planet's core or launching people out of orbit. His skill is focusing energy into singular points and having a tool for every occasion. I really hope ONE doesn't lose perspective on his own series because overall I enjoy the manga additions to the story. Likewise Murata needs to keep his own suggestions somewhat restrained because I know he can draw stuff bigger and better but it sounds like he wants to go even harder just because.
Except Garou doesn't have energy projection attacks, speed fast enough to set the fucking air on fire and a moon kick. I'd say the power evens out nicely.
I meant that zombie man versus vampire should have been a long drawn out fight, but it seems like it goes by really fast
Girls in PJ are super cute.
G4 and G5 design was kino, I hope we see more.
>but he doesn't say "one handed combo"
The normal punches combo is one handed, it's the default combo. That's the one he used against Boros. He also used it against Garou before using the two handed combo. Number of hands is only specified in the name for the upgraded combo.
Murata and One probably wanted to not extend it too much and get back on track especially with how long Emperor took. I don't mind the new fight he got. It had nice pacing and covered what it needed in the fight.
Shocking doesn't mean that power level is ignored. It means that you can remember well every fights because they were unique and unexpected.
why would her tanlines look like that if all she wears is that same sportswear all the time?
they look a lot like Drive Knight to you, too, right? I think either that other user in this thread is right and the Mad Cyborg is Genos himself, but if that's not the case then it's gotta be Drive Knight
my suspicion is that the mad cyborg is dr kuseno and he's got jekyll and hyde issues
his reaction after he asked genos if he was still chasing the mad cyborg since becoming a pro hero was really suspicious
She obviously wore something longer and didn't get tan in the areas that are pale.
I was fairly disappointed that we didn't get child emperor vs G5
I guess they're saving him for genos?
>Harder, better, faster, stronger, bigger, thicker neck, more respected, bigger harem, leaner, bigger fanbase, higher IQ, Chadder, manlier, better posture, better fighting skills, wiser, more aesthetic, taller, higher deadlift PR, cooler aura, prettier eyes, better teeth, better breath, more charisma, Saitama likes him more, Tatsumaki wants his dick more, goes out with more dignity, delivers a more exciting fight to Saitama, better clothes, more friends, sadder and better background, more money, bigger dick, lasts more in bed, cums more, more canon, higher in polls, higher in power charts, better job, rapes S-classes faster, has better jawline, tanked more punches, more threatening and imposing, better physique, more stamina, manlier voice, better health, older, more successful, benches more, scares Shibabawa more, gets more praise by Saitama, pumps out more content, better person, more charitable, more fanart, more shitposting OC
THAN GAROU THE HERO JOBBER
G5 is Drive Knight in disguise, user
but drive knight existed before G4
I LOVE BOROS
HOLY BASED
dark energy best track
G4 is dead, dude, Drive Knight copied the design to infiltrate the MA. Either that or Drive Knight being G5 is because he's actually a member of the Organization, too.
>the majority of these claims are not even headcanon
The absolute state of Fagrou
WTF NOOOOO THIS CANNOT BE HAPPENING GAROU BROS!
>but it seems like it goes by really fast
It goes by faster in the webcomic to the point only the introduction of the two fighters is depicted and the aftermath. Manga actually gives us the fight to a larger extent, even shows the neck wound Zombieman was "downed" with and then resumes the webcomic sequence of skipping over the 30 minutes they slugged it out.
Manga version both gives us some combat, gives zombieman some minor encounters before hand to let us see how he ususally operates when in these situations, and doesn't snuff the webcomic while giving us a good closure to the fight as well with him killing the surviving monsters and him getting CE's message. I honestly can't understand why anyone would view the webcomic version as better when the Manga one is better in every way for this specific fight.
OPM fighting game when?
right but my point was asking how drive knight could be G5 when he existed before ostensibly his predecessor, G4
because he just changed how he looks? it's not that hard to comprehend user
oh so you're saying that there IS no G5 and drive knight is just pretending to be him?
Because he's only pretending to be G5? I'm not saying Drive Knight didn't exist before G4, I'm saying he's copying his robot design with his robot shapeshifting
best villain coming through
yes, that is the theory. the very first comment you replied to literally said that
Garou doesn't even count as a Tiger threat, he would literally never kill anyone other than monsters.
But Garou and Saitama barrelling through the earth fits with the theme of the arc where a lot of the action happens underground. Also it's free real estate and Garou and Saitama can go absolutely wild there, delivering epic action without endangering spectators.
You have a weird view of what Garou actually is in the webcomic. He's not "just a martial artist", he's a superpowered one-man-army who can transform at will and give the likes of Boros one hell of a fight. Everything from the perfection that is Garou's martial art to his extremely high stats and supernatural abilities will be shown off on a larger scale in the manga. Murata's specialty is going all the way up to 11 and adding many layers of detail, he can draw Garou airbending the shit out of everything around him just by moving and something that spectacular would only be one of the many parts in Garou's huge toolkit.
yes
n-no bully
but hang on, if G5 is just drive knight in disguise, why did he attack child emperor?
we categorise heroes with disaster levels all the time though
>give the likes of Boros one hell of a fight
they never fought, how would you come to that conclusion
to play the part of being a villain. DK knows that CE is smart enough to deduce something is going on if G5 just comes across CE with the hostage and leaves them alone. he's more than strong enough to deal with that cerberus robot CE used and all his other gadgets then chase after him and the hostage but just let CE think he actually had problems with them.
ONE, the author, literally said that when asked about a hypothetical fight between the two.
he has to maintain the charade? also he didn't bother chasing him at all, he didn't seem to care about Child Emp.
We need a Bang spinoff
>he has to maintain the charade
but why? he wasn't being watched at that time, and what is he even hoping to gain from his infiltration? he hasn't helped the HA in any way, and all he really did for the MA was catch the private squad
does anyone have the image comparing the manga and anime fight of garou vs MB
the one where garou throws a hadouken
>Shocking doesn't mean that power level is ignored
It doesn't have to be but I'm wary of how high they are going to boost Garou's achievements and feats in the upcoming fight because so far I've been happier with how much scrappier he's been in these monster association encounters barring Ripper.
>But Garou and Saitama barrelling through the earth
Thank god you're not in charge of writing this story then.
>You have a weird view of what Garou actually is in the webcomic
He is just a martial artist at the end of the day just like Boros was a Frieza expy at the end of the day. Webcomic wise he'd put up a fight against boros by dodging and landing his own strikes given his ability to read his opponents body. But even his strongest strike barely put Saitama off the ground in the webcomic so why should I expect him to do any different to Boros in that regard? Manga awakened Garou should not be a planet threat in the same way as Boros, the manga explicitely makes it clear that the difference between monsters like Boros and martial artists is ability to focus attack power into singular points. Likewise, Garou shouldn't be able to punch his way through the earth while also fighting Saitama since confined spaces removes the one thing he needed to even last as long against Saitama as he did.
death of the author fallacy, you gotta go by the feats you see in the work, not stuff outside the work
and you need to fuck off
If he's a member of the Organization who has infiltrated the ranks of the heroes then his motives don't have to make sense from the perspective of the Hero Association
>death of the author fallacy
This isn't a thing you dumb illiterate nigger
>Death of the Author is a concept from mid-20th Century literary criticism; it holds that an author's intentions and biographical facts (the author's politics, religion, etc) should hold no special weight in determining an interpretation of their writing. This is usually understood as meaning that a writer's views about their own work are no more or less valid than the interpretations of any given reader
>This is usually understood as meaning that a writer's views about their own work are no more or less valid than the interpretations of any given reader
makes absolutely no sense
not the user you replied to, but that's pretty retarded
>does anyone have the image comparing the manga and anime fight of garou vs MB
>the one where garou throws a hadouken
Say I make a show about an ant and a spider. In the story the ant gets killed by a shoe, but the spider gets hit by a shoe and doesn't die. Then somebody asks me about the story and I say "oh yeah the ant is more durable than the spider". That may have been my INTENTION, but the actual events displayed in the work I wrote do not bear that out
He didn't though. Child was the one attacking him.
fucking retarded example
Boros kicks Saitama to the moon, Boros never does anything even remotely close to that level of power, but the author says they're around the same level. Just cause he says it doesn't make it obvious from reading the story
I can't do that.
JK rowling
she embodies the point of death of the author
Tired of seeing that ugly pic. Post the printed version.
Garou never does anything close to that level, I meant
lol the hole in the HA HQ in the online one is horrid
>Boros never does anything even remotely close to that level of power
you mean garou?
that doesn't look any better or worse
JK is just a retard going back to an old series of her to get more attention. ONE is still in the process of writing OPM and monster Garou didn’t even appear yet in the manga.
to clarify, do you mean awakened garou or regular garou?
Perspective didn’t even fit, it probably wasn’t drawn by Murata while this one is.
Just open them in 2 separate tabs and compare them by moving from 1 tab to another.
im surprised a blind person could even use Yea Forums
this, she's one of the most prominent examples in modern media. I'm not saying which character is stronger, I don't fucking know, but trying to use author statements as some sort of "HA GOTCHA YOU CAN'T ARGUE BACK" thing is retarded
Well yeah, technology has really adv- hey wait a second
No, Garou is not "just a martial artist". He's a dude with supernatural evolution. Not to mention martial arts themselves are absolutely busted and anything but normal, Murata can do anything he wants to illustrate just how busted Awakened Garou's skill is. Martial arts in OPM can manipulate energy, deflect force, bend air and whatnot.
Garou actually managed to push Saitama around several times in the webcomic and the manga will expand on that even more. Reminder that Boros in the webcomic, IN METEORIC BURST, only managed to make Saitama skid on the ground a little while still on his feet once and did essentially nothing without the manga's expansion. There's absolutely nothing weird about Garou and Saitama barreling through earth. It's ideal grounds for a fight without endangering spectators. Garou already instantly retaliates from a Saitama attack that sent him underground in the webcomic and he can slice through earth like butter with fucking air currents. Either way their fight is going to have a humongous scale in the manga, that's just how it is.
I am actually legally blind without corrective lenses, so maybe it IS just my shit eyes, but other than the hole on top on the building the only thing different about the two I can see is that one looks like it has more shading
there's more detail on the building on the printed version
but otherwise yeah it's just shading
>No, Garou is not "just a martial artist". He's a dude with supernatural evolution
Are you garoufag? He specifically said the same king of thing toward Boros ("just a Frieza expy") yet here you are getting all triggered that he’s not describing Garou in a dick sucking way.
There's no such thing. No one cares about your headcanon.
ONE's words overrule any retarded fanfic you may have as he's the owner of his story. And speaking of feats, Awakened Garou is packing even in the webcomic.
>No, Garou is not "just a martial artist".
Yes he is and the fact that you don't take offense to "boros is just a frieza expy" is proof that you're just another triggered garoufag out to repeat himself over and over again.
I miss him
Will there ever be a One Punch Man video game?
who cares?
No.
You, I like you
>I'll just ignore a literary concept that's been around almost a hundred years because I want my favorite character to be the best
So far it only has a mobile game and a crossover with another mobile one. Though after seeing that my hero game I'd rather not get a game.
Probably not, and if they did make one it'd probably just be a shitty street fighter clone. As much as I'd like a good OPM game, GOOD anime based games are extremely rare.
name three
It's much more believable that blast is pig god before/after releasing all his built up fat energy
They "copied" Garou's many hands that were just supposed to be an illusion of a movement...what a goddamn retards. Can't wait for Glasses with 3 arms.
zombie man had probably the best chapter of the entire monster association arc I though. Everything about it just worked
I really hope zombieman vs homeless emperor gets stretched out a bit
the two of them are just fantastic
I'm someone who describes things accurately instead of over-simplifying them to push a retarded agenda, faggot.
Awakened Garou is a superhuman with supernatural rapid evolution, regen and high as fuck physical stats. Martial arts in OPM also do not simply mean punching shit, Garou can already bend fucking air and redirect force.
Fact is Murata can go balls to the wall all out with Garou's fight, to the underground, to the skies - anywhere, he can do anything he wants due to Garou's extreme versatility.
everything will get stretched out
Dragon Ball Budokai Tenkaichi 2 & 3, one of the two Jap only Berserk games is okay, I can't think of another, all the others that come to mind are mediocre at best
like your mum
wow man. she just died a few months ago, that hurts :(
guess I better go get that shovel
how about fighterz and kill la kill if? theyre both top notch
No, Garou is not "just a martial artist", you cheeky retard. If you want to call Boros a Frieza expy, then Garou is a fucking super saiyan + Doomsday expy .
Haven't played the Kill la Kill game, haven't even seen anything about it. But FighterZ is pretty garbage imo. It looks great in terms of graphics though.
>I'll just believe my own retarded fanfics instead of ONE's actual words because Garou's canonical ability to contest ayylmao number 186261 triggers my spic asshole
Fuck off, fanfiction writer.
whats wrong with dbfz? i feel like the balance of the game is totally up for debate and the gameplay itself somewhat as well. but the way it looks, all the characters and their moves, the interactions etc is all amazing. i think arcsys did a really good job with it.
Why is it that of all the NEET characters in manga/anime history that King properly shows what a NEET really is?
>Lives off of welfare checks from the government
>Wants to be alone to play his degenerate vidya game but doesn't have the balls to tell them to leave
>Lies about what he's doing so he can stay inside and not be bothered
>Doesn't improve himself over time, despite getting his shit called out from the MC who actually did improve his life and shows the benifits of doing so
>Complains about how horrible his life is despite making it that way because he wont come out and tell people hes not a hero at all and was only stealing peoples thunder
Why are you so mad? Also, I don't know where you're pulling the fanfic idea from, projecting much? All I'm saying is that you can't use what an author says about the story, you can only use what actually happens in the story. This is not a difficult concept. Arthur intent means nothing if they don't portray that intent accurately in the story.
but the webcomic is LITERALLY in King redemption arc right now
except awakened garou hasn't appeared in the manga yet so
>author says character G can fight Character B on somewhat equal terms enough to make for a good fight
>character B demonstrates capabilities greater than Character G
>user expects me to believe that despite this discrepancy A stands a chance at all because "the author says so"
Fuck man, you really would need Garou punting Saitama to Mars or something for me to believe he'd do more than dodge and futility punch Boros in the chest armor, wouldn't even break it
Damn that's a good followup.
It LOOKS amazing, the voice acting is great, the sound design is great, but the gameplay and character balance are what drags it down for me, and gameplay is the most important thing. Combat just feels boring and repetitive unless you're playing against a real person who is about equal to you in skill. Playing against people worse than you is super boring, playing against people better than you is super boring.
If they make a OPM video game, i'm fine if it's a shitty street fighter clone. BUT they should keep the power levels consistent.
So when a player picks Saitama, he wins in one punch.
When a player picks Genos, and the opponent picks some class C hero, Genos instantly wins too.
It'd be a parody of a video game...
Okay for real though, the way it works is that whatever ONE wanted to say about OPM and its contents, he put directly in its writing. Whatever ONE says about his own work is always secondary to what is shown or stated in the work. If he talks about dumb powerlevel bullshit it's just him theorising because if it really mattered he would've put it in the story.
dude King is trying his best to tell people he's not what he claims to be so he can get some real training to get stronger, but NOBODY can resist the King Engine except Saitama. King's ability is too powerful for normal people to see through the charade even if he actively tries to tell the truth. King is OP
i still think just judging it on the gameplay alone isn't fair considering how great the rest of it is. like desu i don't think the gameplay is all that bad especially at higher ranks where you get people around your skill more often. if there was an opm game made like this i wouldn't care if the gameplay is "bad" it'd just be sick to see all the characters doing all their moves with the voice acting and shit.
If the author states that Boros and Garou are evenly matched, then that is as close to canon that you are ever going to be able to give an answer to that question aside from the fight being put on the paper.
An answer from the author himself is much more valuable in determining the probable outcome of such a fight then the armchair deductions (BUT HE KICKED HIM TO THE MOON!) of a random person on the interwebz. Why? Because if the fight were to ever happen in canon (through the means of some ridiculous asspulls), then it is going to happen in the way that the author thinks/wants it to happen.
Thinking that your own head canon is more valuable than the head canon of the author is retarded.
i mean the moon kick was not in the webcomic. we'll probably get more action from garou in the manga. but so far, i agree that boros has shown better feats.
So high he cant fit on the chart without totally fucking the scale.
I ONLY judge a game based on its gameplay, dude. Like, FighterZ isn't bad because of the other things that are good about it, but it's not good because of the gameplay. It's just mediocre. And that's far better than most anime-based games so hey, that's a big plus. I really couldn't give two shits about the graphics, sound, etc if the gameplay is great then it's a great game, if the gameplay isn't great then it can't be a great game no matter how good the other aspects of it are.
It's not head canon to compare feats that have been presented to us in the story. It IS head canon to assume that what the author states outside the confines of the story takes precedence over the actual feats that we see.
i think you just had bad experiences with it or something. after having played at higher ranks it was definitely more enjoyable and i feel like playing offline would be great too
That is cultural Marxism in a nutshell. Everything is an interpretation and all interpretations are equally valid. It indeed is pretty retarded.
>i still think just judging it on the gameplay alone isn't fair considering how great the rest of it is
Not that user. I think I understand where your coming from but game play shouldn't be neglected even if the visuals are spot on. ArcSys is also doing a Granblue game but I'm already hearing some concerning statements about its game play. That might not mean much to the gacha crowd who will migrate over to it as their first fighting game, but I enjoy the genre even if I'm not amazing at it and can at least spot more problems than someone new to fighting games. I don't want another snooze fest like DBZF
Ultimately a fighting game has to thrive on its game play. Any game must because if I just wanted a hood looking property I'd watch a movie or the anime.
Is this a kill la kill reference?
So.
If I liked OPM s1 would I enjoy OPM s2?
I've heard the animation quality is pretty bad in season 2.
The feats may be canon, but the way you interpret these feats (B kicked him to the moon, G did not, therefore B > G) is your own head canon. And let it be my little head canon to state author's head canon > literal who's head canon.
I think you're assuming I'm being negative about it when I say it's mediocre, but I'm not trying to be negative. There's absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying mediocre games, hell I have lots of fun playing Ninja Storm 4 with my friends, but that doesn't make it anything more than a mediocre game. I can accept that something isn't objectively good and yet still enjoy it.
Also, this is gonna be terrifying in the manga.
i wasn't neglecting the gameplay. dbfz was the first fighting game i had actually seriously played though (played the old budokai games when i was younger and all that) so i didn't really see it as that bad. i can see how someone who's been into fighting games for a long time wouldn't like the gameplay or whatever else but i still feel like the gameplay isn't as terribly godawful as you guys are making it out to be.
Had the author said nothing, what would be the more accurate interpretation of the feats?
Mediocre isn't bad. It's just not good. Things can be average.
I'm not saying the game play is terrible. But it is very repetitive as the other user stated and it does get boring after a while, more so than any other 3v3 I've played. It's definitely a fighting game designed to better as a watched experience than it feels to play.
When's update?
Why didn't the monsterification work on Sonic? Was it because he cooked the meat?
idk i just still don't agree. probably just me being new to fighting games.
Yep, gotta eat em raw
Soon.
Yes.
>the sheer amount of damage control Boros fanboys spew because a 18 year old human-monster Chosen One from the planet of the actual strongest and unlimited possibilities dabs on the alien in CQC and has other tricks up his sleeve
I especially love how clingy Boros fanboys are about all the feats Murata gave him in the manga and how batshit scared they are of Murata showering Awakened Garou with new much better feats in the manga too. Really makes one think.
>but he and Genos already did reveal that Saitama was extremely powerful which is why he was in the Shibabawa meeting
What? I thought Saitama went because he just happened to be with Genos and Bang while they were summoned.
Saying that a character displayed a feat that is greater than another character's feats isn't headcanon, dude. It's just making observations.
My mistake, even for webcomic Boros he was still a planetary threat that commanded several high level followers, managed to earn a surprised reaction from Saitama, and was even acknowledged as being strong in addition to having a planetary destruction attack. Webcomic Garou got a more involved fight but never got Saitama to acknowledge his strength and was toyed with as opposed to being taken seriously.
Manga Garou would need a massive buff to compare to Manga Boros purely because while I believe he can dodge, I don't think he has an answer for roaring cannon nor the raw strength to really contest Boros.
You're right, other user is wrong. No S class has told the association that Saitama is above them, even if they know it.
i still think the main reason garou would never beat boros is his ridiculous regeneration. and also because i think he's faster
I think this is the most important distinction between the two. Boros gets his strength acknowledged by Saitama, while Garou gets played around with.
I mean Black Sperm is there 3 times.
We can and should use what an author says about the story and characters. It's ONE's story and characters, and he shows off Garou's feats well even in the webcomic, which the manga will expand on greatly once again as stated by Murata multiple fucking times. Your braindead fanfics have no value in any discussion however.
Your interpretation, but unfortunately for you we don't live in a world where the author remained silent. Instead we live in a world where the author overruled that interpretation, generating new (relevant) information, which should lead to you updating your beliefs.
And the authors opinion does matter here because the question essentially is: B vs G? Due to a lack of information the best we can do is replace that question with a question that is parallel to it and to which we do have an answer: If the author were to put the fight of B vs G on paper, then how would he do it? The answer: G would give B a tough fight. That is all there is to it. It isn't a perfect answer, because there are still uncertainties (what if the author is lying/changes his mind?), but it is the best answer we've got and it is for sure a better answer than your head canon.
Sonic should be in Mid Dragon Tier. I'm also sure he's faster than Flashy Flash.
Saitama acknowledges Garou's strength right after the first attack Garou lands, which ONE was so hyped about that he fucking gif'd it.
why was he top of their class then instead of sonic?
>has a garment which imbues with his great power, and unlocks greater power with further symbiosis
Basically, yea.
I'm not making a statement on B vs G, I don't have any idea how it would play out, but you put far too much faith in things that are said outside of the story. Death of the Author, dude. You can keep saying that everything you don't like is headcanon, but the only one using things outside the story to draw conclusions is you.
i can also say garou is the only one able to make saitama feel excited(though only for a short moment), while boros didn't get such reaction from saitama. i like both characters but this banter about who's stronger is just bad.
>Had the author said nothing, what would be the more accurate interpretation of the feats?
Garou dominating because he has better webcomic feats.
This was the only thing that bothered me about the fight. The fight was too high profile for nobody to have witnessed it in such close quarters, especially Tats.
>but the only one using things outside the story to draw conclusions is you.
most people do, actually. because it's what you're supposed to do. this "death of the author" thing and people arguing that using statements from the author outside the story shouldn't be taken into consideration only started in this thread. the past like 20 threads had none of this garbage.
Didn't Saitama serious punch Boros because he was about to destroy the planet? It's been a while since i watched it
Why is Tatsumaki above gurgyanshoop in this tierlist? Wasn't gurgyanshoop supossedly the strongest esper in the universe capable of creating a blackhole?
Because fuck you, that's why.
>here's an example of character X's greatest feat
>here's and example of character Y's greatest feat
DUR POWERLEVELGFAG HEADCANON FANFICTION THE AUTHOR SAID DIFFERENT
it's been said that all 3 of boros' generals with prep time would have next to no chance of beating orochi and tats is at least near orochi's level, likely above him
yeah what the fuck was with this page? why did he eat some random monster's arm? i can't see any reason besides orochi related
there's no evidence that sonic is even close to FF.
>tats is at least near orochi's level, likely above him
[citation needed]
according to murata:
tatsumaki has higher power output while geryuganshoop has better control capable of throwing peebles at relativistic speed.
To be precise he serious punched the beam to cancel the attack, literally splitting it, and the shockwave ended up killing Boros.
Most do know he's strong, but there are also rumors about him being a cheat. Also they don't realize HOW strong he is only that he's S-A class level rather than OP level.
King's probably the best character in the series.
I hope ONE doesn't ruin it by making King actually brokenly strong because he some passive god factor like Haruhi.
Check out this apple pleb. Doesn't even know when he's already been cut.
He cut through the the space between elementary particles. Atomic Samurai has nothing on King's true power. King is so powerful that he was able to make Golden Sperm shit a brick in an instant.
because he was hungry, it's not related to orochi in any way whatsoever
Death of the author is a concept that's been around a long time, man. You interpret a story based on what actually happens in the story, Otherwise no story could ever have a consistent interpretation,
He had been starving for a couple of days, not to mention he had just been bled during all his fights. The warehouse protecting that kid, and then the entirety of the MA. So he needed blood and meat to keep going.
>according to murata
But what did ONE say?
im not saying that that dumb concept hasn't been around for a long time. im saying no retard has used it as an argument in any of these threads until you showed up.
Dark Energy and The Ruler were easily my favorites.
Do you realise that your conclusions about the story are formulated by you? You only accept ONE's extraneous commentary because it doesn't explicitly contradict your own interpretation, which is directly based on the work. Imagine if ONE were to say that Charanko is the strongest character and many times stronger than Garou.
Isn't G5 just disguised Drive Knight?
What the heck is this thing made out of that people with nukes and particle beam weaponry can't even scratch it.
>I prefer what the author said outside of the story so it's dumb
okay
Then we would be able to interpret that as a joke, because we aren't autistic like you.
most likely
The only people (as of the webcomic right now) that do know are Bang, King, Fubuki, Zombieman, Genus, and Genos. Kuseno probably knows, maybe Bomb too. Sweet Mask and Lightspeed both know he's well above his current rank but obviously don't know to what extent (Sweet might, though).
I look forward to the development of Sweet Mask. Maybe a Flash v Sweet rivalry over who gets to try to groom Saitama under their own ideals?
Maybe it's a chunk of super space metal? Boros' ship was made of some ridiculous metal so they've gotta get it from somewhere
>But what did ONE say?
Don't know, but based on feats tats is still stronger anyway.
>I hope ONE doesn't ruin it by making King actually brokenly strong because he some passive god factor like Haruhi.
If he does it'll probably be like Reigen where he just thinks his opponents just happen to be even weaker than him.
It's just a rock, bruh. I don't think you and that user understand the incomprehensible amounts of mass and force that puppy is generating after falling into Earth's gravity.
The problem is your short memory and senseless wanking. Garou "needs" to kick Saitama to Mars in your demented mind because you’re incessantly comparing manga Boros to webcomic Awakened Garou. Simultaneously and ironically some faggots in the same thread are terrified because Murata is determined to draw an even more large scale fight for Garou than Boros had.
ONE’s words are facts just like the fact that Boros did jackshit in the webcomic compared to Awakened Garou feats wise.
metal knight with prep could probably beat everyone in the series besides saitama boros and maybe garo. boros would blow his strongest stuff away with nukes, and garo is fast/durable enough to keep dodging and get away. he has an army of robots that are dragon tier. tatsumaki can maybe beat him too but he probably has some anti esper beam shit.
Meteorites are typically mostly iron and a little nickel, right? Sure it's a rock, but it's metallic rock if it's a normal meteor
gouketsu also didn't explode but he got mutilated (although that could've been more than one punch since it was offscreen) while bakuzan got turned into powder, so he's probably around gouketsu's level
>lightspeed
I accept ONE's commentary because he's the author and he provides an answer to a question that is otherwise impossible to determine. It's a hypothetical fight because Boros died long ago.
Your fanfiction about Charanko is once again irrelevant to the discussion. ONE answered a power level/matchup related question straight up, that's it.
it wasn't really that big though
not to mention how it suddenly changed course
it wasn't a normal meteor by any means
If he wasn't joking when he said it, you would still interpret it as a joke? If he said Charanko has just been hiding his real power and is secretly Blase, and when asked if he's joking said no, would you still interpret it as a joke? You're just blindly accepting author statements as being more important than what we actually see in the story because of the appeal to authority or something.
Metal Knight would overwhelm Garou for sure. Hell he might even overwhelm Tatsumaki, we don't know what kind of tech he's hiding. That said I don't think he's a villain, he's just an asshole.
it was pretty obviously just one punch that decapitated him and bakuzan didn't "turn to powder", he just got a massive chunk of his body missing and the rest was intact.
>comparing manga Boros to webcomic Awakened Garou
No, see Now go cope harder because your afraid to acknowledge that webcomic Bros for the 1 chapter he got established himself as the bigger threat. I don't even think awakened Garou could Crack the armor but you'll cling to a years old quote in spite of reality.
shit like this really makes me enjoy king. I hope when he begins lifting he doesnt become op and they continue to make his fights more like this
ew he puts it back in his mouth
So if ONE were to say something outrageously silly that contradicted his own writing, you'd try to fit it into your reading of the work even though you'd disagree with it?
the thing that people are forgetting is that boros was essentially the peak of what can be achieved without breaking your limiter. the zenith of natural power.
awakened garou on the other hand is on the other side of the limited. he might not have the sheer destructive power boros possessed, but he's undeniably more resilient, as well as packing more speed and power in his default movements. it's certainly not hard to believe AG could beat boros
boros is still cooler than AG though
I think Garou beats Boros, but it's not cause the writer said so in an interview, that's dumb as fuck headcanon type thinking
if one was to say something outrageously silly that utterly contradicts his writing I would assume that he was joking
and he would be. the reality is that he's never seriously said something like that, nor will he ever. your argument is based entirely upon something that will never happen
you are retarded
The worst part about this arc
But saying two characters who have not displayed anywhere near the same level of power would give each other a "tough fight" IS outrageous and sounds like a joke.
>power level fags arguing about which jobber is tougher
imagine engaging in powerlevel-faggotry in a series with a character named golden sperm
but awakened garou and boros HAVE displayed near the same level of power
in the webcomic they are about the same level. Boros moon kick isn't in the webcomic
>ONE literally answers questions about power levels and matchups in interviews
Would love the source on this for future use. Powerlevel fags can be annoying but pseudo-intellectuals who act as if discussion involving the mere mention of powerlevels is "missing the point of the whole series" are even more obnoxious.
why are you comparing webcomic garou to webcomic boros? webcomic boros has been entirely irrelevant for a long time. any webcomic content that the manga has already adapted is totally obsolete.
>being this autistic
Let me put it like this. The question is B vs G? The story doesn't give us sufficient information, because the question isn't inside the story. Your approach is to ignore that problem. My approach is to seek reliable/relevant information and getting it from the author himself is as reliable/relevant as it gets. I use this information to update my beliefs, because I think it is reliable/relevant in solving the question (which is a value judgement), and you do not and remain ass backwards. If the author says seriously that Charanko is blast or whatever, then I'll have to update my beliefs, which will also update my opinion on the story, namely that it is dogshit.
>my brain can't process a hypothetical argument
>if it didn't really happen I can't even use my logic to imagine what might happen
>i have no argument other than an appeal to authority so i'll just call you dumb
Tsum Tsum: One Punch Man Edition
>frogposting
it's a hypothetical that will never happen and is thus entirely irrelevant when discussing things that actually happened
>The story doesn't give us sufficient information
That's not true, you're ignoring the evidence in favor of author statements
because the manga is treating boros' fight differently than in the webcomic which you faggots use to base monster garou's feats. Just wait until the manga reached awakened garou then compare which of your favorite your jobbers are better.
Read the webcomic at Ch.45, catch up to where it is currently, then read the manga. Don't bother with Season 2.
im not even a part of this argument though, i have literally the exact same opinion as you. there's no point in comparing them at all.
>garou never kicked anyone into space so he cannot POSSIBLY fight someone who did
now that's some brainlet-tier reasoning
>I would assume that he was joking
Why would you assume that? What if he was dead serious? It turns out you do actually value your interpretation over the author's after all.
MK wouldn't even be able to track Awakened Garou. Same for Boros. He'd just get his units destroyed against them.
Also since when did he have an army of dragon tier combat robots? That's literally never been mentioned anywhere. The battle units he sends to get the resources he wants so much or test new missiles are shit. He also never showed any truly outstanding technology to warrant thinking he could counter Tatsumaki's ESP.
You think it is sufficient, I think it's not. I think you are retarded, and you most probably think you are not. Simple difference in opinion. Doesn't change the fact that you are a retard though.
Kill yourself frogpsoter.
>Why would you assume that?
because ONE has never done something like that seriously. I would be interpreting his actions based on his previous actions. you know, like how functioning humans do.
So your real argument is just "what I think is true is more valid than what you think is true"? You're completely willing to disregard evidence that doesn't fit your interpretation just because you don't like it while also using statements from outside the story that you do like. Instead of making arguments based on what actually happens in the story you just resort to an appeal to authority. But you also are unwilling to even THINK about a hypothetical in which that authority says something that goes against the interpretation you like. Arguing with you is like arguing with a religious zealot.
How will the Saitama vs Tatsumaki fight be expanded in the manga?
show me some evidence that proves Boros is more powerful than AG then, nigger
why should I care about a hypothetical that has never happened and will never happen? that's totally pointless. there is no proof in the story that places AG or Boros as more powerful than the other, and the author backs that up. all you have are pointless hypotheticals and baseless conjecture.
They have sex in the sky
The later stuff that happens in the webcomic is probably going to copied pretty closely in the manga, since ONE and Murata were already in cahoots at that point.
See I am enjoying the thought that the author would say something stupid seriously. An yes, I am resorting to an appeal to authority (and being consistent in this), because in this case the authority has authority, because he is the actual AUTHOR.
we'll see more background characters in the back, most likely talking to people from the other hero org informing the reader that some other characters have joined them as well.
I read that post and it once again confirms you're a brain damaged wanker. Get your memory checked.
Boros' minions were dragon levels who had no fucking notable feats in the webcomic. Awakened Garou without going all out trashed Golden Sperm who had better feats and word of mouth than any of those minions. Boros did absolute jackshit in the webcomic compared to Awakened Garou. Boros literally got plastered with one hand and in his strongest form he made Saitama skid on his feet a little once. That's it. As for recognizing strength, Saitama recognized Garou's strength right after the first attack Garou landed on him.
Your coping is actually just sad at this point. ONE's words are facts: Monster Garou is so strong ONE can't even tell who'd win between Boros and him anymore, it'd be one hell of a battle between them and Garou is plain stronger in hand to hand. Your retarded fanfiction is absolutely irrelevant, you brainless wanker with amoeba memory.
Yeah the late webcomic pacing is pretty close to the manga, ONE changed his style during the MA arc which is pretty evident how he went for another long and elaborate arc in the manga right after. The post-MA webcomic has been more drawn out for sure.
BASED
>Saitama tells Boros he's probably the strongest foe he's ever fought, doesn't say that to Garou
>Boros can kick Saitama to the moon, Garou never displays that level of stregth
>Saitama is known to hold back against those he doesn't think are real monsters, ala Rover
>Garou has no way to counter Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon
>Garou can't shunt energy from his body to increase his physical abilities
>Boros' regeneration allows him to piece himself together from being basically a thin red paste, we never see Garou recover from anything that serious
I don't even think Garou is weaker than Boros, but you're pretty stupid if you don't think the feats are currently in Boros' favor
>You're completely willing to disregard evidence that doesn't fit your interpretation just because you don't like it.
How is you completely disregarding the author's statement any different from that?
>Saitama tells Boros he's probably the strongest foe he's ever fought
wrong, saitama just said boros was strong which he also said to garou.
>Boros can kick Saitama to the moon, Garou never displays that level of stregth
manga feat vs webcomic feat. discarded
>Saitama is known to hold back against those he doesn't think are real monsters, ala Rover
boros even said saitama was holding back against him
>Garou has no way to counter Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon
fair enough
>Garou can't shunt energy from his body to increase his physical abilities
what does this mean?
>Boros' regeneration allows him to piece himself together from being basically a thin red paste, we never see Garou recover from anything that serious
again fair point.
>webcomic Saitama to Boros: I'll admit, you are strong. Let me use a lethal series move to stop you destroying the olanet
>web comic Saitama to garou: I can't tell if your strong or not. Let me fuck around with you for a bit and get bored
>user on the Internet: The author said this despite the story not substantiating it, therefore that is more important than the facts
Not even surprised at this point.
This chapter was peak comfy
For real though where's the update?
Manga is canon boyo
>Saitama tells Boros he's probably the strongest foe he's ever fought
""""""probably""""""
>Boros can kick Saitama to the moon, Garou never displays that level of strength
sure he does. he kills golden sperm
>Saitama is known to hold back
you mean exactly like garou did? garou too only ever killed monsters because deep down he was a nice dude. and saitama was holding back against boros too.
>Garou has no way to counter Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon
except he does, just tanking it out, or avoiding it with retardedly fast speed, or countering with dog spayer jam sandwich fist or whatever he called it
>Garou can't shunt energy from his body to increase his physical abilities
why would he need to, he already has SSS-tier physical abilities
>Boros' regeneration allows him to piece himself together from being basically a thin red paste, we never see Garou recover from anything that serious
because garou is more resilient than boros, he was never reduced that much
It's called Death of the Author. This is simple stuff, I understand that YOU DON'T LIKE IT, but you're not supposed to use ANYTHING that isn't actually IN a work to interpret that work. A work is self-contained, and anything said outside of it is just that, outside of it. Am I supposed to go back through Harry Potter and read Dumbledore as a raging homo the whole time just cause JKR said he was after the books were written?
then wait for manga monster garou before making the statements senpai
I hope the power creep won't continue, bc that means the series is coming to an end soon
we don't need to, because ONE already told us they were more or less equal
which they are, even comparing manga boros and webcomic AG
>you mean exactly like garou did? garou too only ever killed monsters because deep down he was a nice dude. and saitama was holding back against boros too.
Saitama wasn't "holding back" against Boros, he just wasn't trying. There's a difference. He just was doing whatever against Boros, this is a completely different framing than specifically trying to keep his opponent alive which is what he does against human enemies.
It's the difference between "I won't kill you" and "I don't care if you die".
>except he does, just tanking it out
Garou could not tank a blast that scours the planet's surface.
>or avoiding it
You cannot avoid an attack that scours the planet's surface without being off the planet's surface. Unless you mean Garou can jump to space.
>why would he need to, he already has SSS-tier physical abilities
Boros claims his latent energy acceleration lets him go "beyond the limit of physical beings", so no natural physical ability can equal him.
Not the guy you're arguing with and I'm not gonna post further, garoufags are always so tiresome.
Very late, visibly.
Might be uploaded when it's morning in Japan.
literally "I don't like your evidence so I discard it" the post
>holding back and not trying aren't the same thing
they literally are
> for a couple of days
He does was hungry enough to eat a monster arm but he ate a bit earlier a whole restaurant menu.
>because garou is more resilient than boros, he was never reduced that much
Because Saitama doesn't turn humans into chunky salsa. He didn't hit Gary as hard as he hit Boros.
no? the manga handles the fight differently than in the webcomic, and people pulls manga feat for boros to compare with webcomic feat for garou which isn't really fair. If you want to rely on Author's statements don't pull feats.
>Boros claims his latent energy acceleration lets him go "beyond the limit of physical beings"
>beyond the limit of physical beings
you mean... where someone who had removed their LIMITER might be? fuck son you the niggest
So there's no difference between holding a bug in your hand and just not closing your fist, versus holding a bug in your hand and actively attempting not to hurt it?
I do indeed think that Death of the Author is retarded (just like you btw) and you've done nothing to convince me otherwise. And if I'm not allowed to use anything outside of a work, than how am I supposed to arrive at a reasonable answer when there isn't sufficient information inside the work? That is where you hit a dead end and where I am willing to make a compromise.
>literally twisting what was said
As expected of a brainless Boros wanker with nonexistent memory.
Webcomic Saitama to Boros: "You're strong." Proceeds to tell Boros to shut up and fight because he wants to see Boros go all out, shits on Boros profusely with the basic moveset, blows his ass away with a shockwave from a serious series, Boros in Burst barely makes Saitama skid a couple of feet.
Webcomic Saitama to Garou: "With that attack I can tell you're strong, maybe even very strong. You're holding back etc etc." Proceeds to throw multiple upgraded moves at Garou to make him go all out. Garou tanks, counters those or regenerates because he can regenerate too, Boros is not speshul. Garou's attacks make Saitama move multiple times and he actually sends him flying in the webcomic.
ONE's aka the author's words are facts. Your fanfics are irrelevant delusion.
in practical terms, no
you're still not killing the bug either way
Garou never removed his limiter, it was just way higher than anybody ever expected.
to be fair everyone sends saitama flying
even carnage kabuto
>Garou's attacks make Saitama move multiple times
So what, a mole did that too
>if I'm not allowed to use anything outside of a work, than how am I supposed to arrive at a reasonable answer when there isn't sufficient information inside the work?
This is a religious sounding argument. YOU say there isn't sufficient information so you're willing to use head canon. I tell you there IS sufficient information and you just say "nuh-uh" and keep going back to things that aren't in the story. I get it, you either can't into logic, or you're so invested in your interpretation that you just don't care.
King is on Saitama level by superior luck.
They might just be thinking that King lacks the precision so he might have hurt Bang.
>headcanon
it's not headcanon, it's from the author. calling it headcanon is like calling the whole series headcanon
Apple is already juice.
The author didn't care to put it in the story, so why would I even look at it or care? I'm only worried about what he actually cared enough about to say in the story. Hell the author could have just been trying to avoid making fanboys mad by saying that and never actually meant it, I would never know. I don't care about anything that's not actually IN the story.
>入稿
He's too based to be /ourguy/.
twitter.com
Murata just finished the chapter, now to wait a couple of more hours.
Nah, at this point I'm just doing this to infuriate you, Also, I am not using my own head canon, I am using the author's head canon, which should hold some weight as it's his story. However you are willing to completely disregard that because it either doesn't fit your interpretation or because MUH death of the author. You've failed to convince me of either of them, convinced me that you are retarded/autistic instead and are now throwing a fit because you can't deal with people being critical over your post modern literary views in a power level discussion about a japanese manga on a mongolian basket weaving forum.
Expecting the chapter to be as long as todays Hero Academia chapter and Im being optimistic.
how do spoolers work in opm threads? do you lads got a dedicated early leaker or what
When Saitama ragdolls, sure. For example against Kabuto Saitama was entirely busy thinking that he missed a fucking sale.
Awakened Garou is the only character who managed to push Saitama back and send Saitama flying with physical counterattacks while Saitama was actually trying to connect his punches and kicks at the same time.
You sure he isn't saying it's being uploaded or something?
Do you read japanese?
>thinks I'm the one who is mad
>keep calling me retarded and autistic even though you can't accept simple concepts
>Nah, at this point I'm just doing this to infuriate you
I was just pretending to be retarded!
Yo what Is that guy nuts, he only just released a chapter a week ago?
wtf are you talking about
it's the same tweet he always posts when he's done with the chapter, now we're just waiting for it to be uploaded.
it's short
>ripped clothing
>not fashionable
looks like someone hasn't gone outside any time in the last 5 years
fuck ripped clothing though, looks like shit
He's up there for sure.
Is this where I say OOF? Nah, I'd rather call you an autist again. Autist.
I mean, his clothes are stronger than him. He punches monsters yet his gloves are fine?
No way in hell.
I remember seeing some pants at the store that were ALREADY ripped that cost more than all the other pants in the store. I just don't understand at all.
>repeats the same arguments in long sentences
>lacks the necessary wit
>is underage
but user they already made king ridiculously powerful.
Just so you know, Death of the Author is just another valid framework that can be used to interpret a work, it's not required to be used in the context of every interpretation the way you're implying it to be.
>wow is he nuts, some artists upload 18 pages per week and Murata used to be serialized weekly and he is now uploading a week later?
yeah, ripped clothing is the most retarded of trends
this is a more realistic comparison, still giving orochi's beam a lot of leeway though
Of course. Zombieman'a power is just not dieing. You really wanted to watch a boring ass fight that lasted forever?
It wasn't nuked tho?
I think orochi's beam is a lot bigger than that
bear in mind the size of the ship overall isn't so enormous as you might think
it was fuckhueg to be sure, but not THAT big
are you fucking retarded?
You mean the eye of the beholder shit? That is hundreds of years old user. Stop being retarded.
>this argument for the thousandth time
I'm convinced that when ONE gave that interview he didn't actually care about the results and was just trying to muscle past the question since OPM is a side project and it's dumb to get into powerlevel discussions with a work your still developing. It's telling that he's never answered anything similar to the question since, at least that I can see. Who would win depends on who the author wants to win and he said he didn't know nor care to clarify in the years since.
Stop trying to George Lucas shit.
no, i did the comparisons. if you zoom in on pic related can see a tiny red dot in a hallway, saitama takes up about 1/5 of the width of that hallway.
What the fuck are you talking about? ONE constantly answered power level questions about numerous characters, not just Garou and Boros. He even answered crossover ones for OPM and Mob for fuck's sake.
You can assume all you want and be wrong. If the author says it is, then it is. Its his work not yours you fucking dumbshit.
Chapter... chapter...
>Whatever ONE says about his own work is always secondary to what is shown or stated in the work.
You really can't be this stupid.
>ONE constantly answered power level questions about numerous characters, not just Garou and Boros.
I don't think it's nearly as frequent as you want to pretend it is, and even the Mob v Tats statement was brief.
Fact is ONE answered power level questions many times about many different characters and did it readily.
More like it's nowhere near as "rare" as you were trying to claim. It's not a one-time occurence at all.
This post-modernist bullcrap is just what they teach kids in college these days...
That has nothing to do with the fight though, Stop it.
Prove it then user, I trust my memory more than your statements. And saying that "tats has more power, alien esper has more control" isn't the same as saying who would beat who which is my point. Tell me how many times ONE has said who would beat who in addition to how many times he's engaged in anything else related to powerlevels in an interview.
So your saying me shooting tats in the back of the head and killing her shows how much weaker she is than C rank heros? Wow