Could Netero in his prime beat Meruem without the Poor Man's Rose?

Prime Netero would beat him like the ant he is. Old Netero isn't even half as strong as his peak

not him, but I don't think Netero wanted to do anything but push her out of the way. if that palm was aimed downward and followed by a hundred more, I think she'd be having a hard time.

Also Pitou did recognized that she was glad Gon-san went against her instead of Meruem, so at least she understood that Gon.san was a high threat

Like what, "my voice can instant kill insects"?

>And neither could Gon-san, btw.
>Gon-san is obviously weaker than even old Netero
This

Gon-san would curbstomp Netero to death with ease

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Yes

It pains me to see Netero being defeated by Meruem, even more that Meruem is stronger than Netero.

Meruem barely got two hits in on Netero, and he himself admits that's only because he had the chance to develop his bruteforce method by playing with Komugi. Netero is otherwise literally untouchable.

not saying gon san would win against netero, just saying that gon san punches harder than netero. And meruem also didn't want to kill netero because he wants to know his name. Who knows what would happen if he goes in for the kill.

Yes and Netero did nothing wrong!

>a singular chop with a HUGE surface area that is also literally nothing to Netero
>a punch with a much smaller surface area that has all of Gon's Nen focused into it
No shit it's gonna do more damage. Lets see Pitou after taking 99th hand. Netero would obliterate Gon-san btw, it would be like fighting a much dumber, much less durable Meruem.

Not that I don't agree with the overall conclusion, but the technique comparison really isn't fair. You have two enhancers, one using a slow charge, 100% enhancement technique, and another using a single attack from a usually rapid fire... several categories. There should be a gulf of a difference there.

>Who knows what would happen if he goes in for the kill.
He would take his head the first time he passed his defense and die to the Rose. Still a pretty challenging fight.

Sometimes I wonder what goes through Netero’s old mind. What kind of person was he as a teenager?

Leorio with his lobotomy punch

I really dislike the concept and implications of Zero Hand, felt out of character for Netero

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I'm one of the biggest Neterofags ever and honestly, it would be EXTREMELY hard to write him beating Meruem even if he was 3 times as powerful. At the very last, after getting his health bar down to like 40% (Which could take hours), Meruem would probably just fuck off. If his pride stop him, then sure, he'd just suicide charge him. But it would take VERY long and remember that we're talking Prime Netero vs the weakest version of Meruem.

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>Sometimes I wonder what goes through Netero’s old mind
He has achieved enlightenment and peak Zen, but he's also bored and playful. So it's probably perfect calm and serenity occasionally interrupted by gleeful joy at some prank he pulled, with a backdrop of tedium. At least before CA arc.
>What kind of person was he as a teenager?
Very similar to Gon, probably.

Even old Netero could beat Meruem in a war of attrition, if Meruem never met Komugi.

It took Meruem several days of playing Gungi with Komugi to come up with the tactics he ultimately used to land a hit on Netero, he'd certainly be dead after several days of being slapped around by the world's endurance champ, before he got the chance to think of them in the fight, if he could even do such a thing in a much more stressful situation. It took a lot to get the shell to start cracking, but once that is out of the way I don't see Meruem surviving a single punch afterwards. I don't doubt it would be very taxing on Netero though.

>Very similar to Gon, probably.
Dumb, ignorant, naïeve and stupid probably?

Based Netero, he is my favorite old man along with King Bradley and others.

Gon is a less durable, less physical and not nearly as intelligent Mereum. Gon himself was a potential threat to the king, but that is the thing, he is only a threat. Physically ants are on another levels, we are shown just even the littlest bit of nen can completely negate any physical advantage another fighter might have. Killua can strike with several tons of force, but someone literally on the bottom of the barrel like Zushi keeps shrugging off Killa's attempts to knock him out. Zushi is a literal child but his meager ten completely negates all of Killua's training.

Its shown to us that solider ants are capable of defeating nen users without any nen at all. Gon and Killua after greed island had a bit of trouble with Rammot at this stage it would be safe to call them around middle of the road hunters in terms of nen ability, Pokkle was captured by the retarded spider. The pure physical aspects of the ants increase as you go up the foodchain, Royal Guard are completely on another level, with Meruem being at the absolute top.

The royal guard and Meruem have been blessed with a insane amount of nen ontop of their natural abilities. Despite Gon completely dominating Pitou, look how long it took to actually kill her, he hit her with many powerful hits before he broke her skull. Now imagine how the fight would go if he fought Meruem, its stated that they nearly have the same amount of Nen. Even if Gon did get some really good hits in, Meruem would take them far better then Pitou and would take far less damage, Gon would suffer far more from the damage he takes. Considering they are both are close range fights, Gon is outclassed, he needs more then just having the same level of nen.

Gon would also never be able to do what Mereum did to Netero. Gon himself would be slower, he wouldn't try to figure out Netero's rhytem, Gon will take far more damage then Mereum did. Gon would never force the Zero hand.

Me on the right.

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>Gon himself would be slower
pitou can't even see him leave the building, so gon san could be very fast for all we know.
>Despite Gon completely dominating Pitou, look how long it took to actually kill her
pitou was dead long before gon cracked her skull (pic related was said after gon's very first jajanken against her).

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Gon is extremely fast, but he isn't a ant. At equal nen levels, Mereum has a advantage in every field because he is the ultimate ant, his regular nenless strength, speed and durability is probably above any middle of the road enhancer and that is a lowball.

Pitou was knocked unconscious, that isn't the same as dying. Pitou didn't come back to life till Gon completely smashed the head. It took him multiple Janjakens to actually smash her skull while she was completely defenseless.

Gon-san is pure powerlevels over anything else. His ability is just punch hard. Netero beats him in Range, Strategy, and his clap motion is faster than Gon as well, meaning he always get to strike first.

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>Its shown to us that solider ants are capable of defeating nen users without any nen at all.
Very rarely, all of the soldier ants got easily taken care of and killed. Most capable nen user could easily take chimera ants on and killed here and there.

We don't know what Gon-san could have done had Pitou been a challenge to him. We saw only what he needed to do to defeat an enemy far weaker than him whereas we saw everything Netero could do against an enemy far stronger.

Yes, capable nen users usually win because they are smarter and have far more tools and powers at their disposal. However the fact that ants without nen are capable of killing nen users shows just how insanely strong the ants are. The Zushi's of the world are capable of withstanding thousands of tons of force.

Which nen users did they managed to kill? None except maybe Pokkle who got stunned from behind by Zazan. The ants are stupid and got killed by nen users.

They are strong but still got killed in dozens by nen users and sometimes even guns.

>Gon is extremely fast, but he isn't a ant
why does this matter? pitou is an ant(royal guard at that) and she is much slower than gon san.
>It took him multiple Janjakens to actually smash her skull while she was completely defenseless.
again after one jajanken pitou was already losing her consciousness. she was dead long before gon san smashed her skull.

If some chimera ants remember their past lives, why do they continue to serve the queen and kill the people they used to know and love? Were they not just reborn as something else but deep down still the same individual?

Chimera ants are they really reincarnation or they just have part of memories?

Gon's nen was massively above her, that he dwarfed her physical advantage. Gon is not dwarfing Meruem, on pure power levels they are equal. However Meruem physically is massively above Gon-San, this is not a equal fight.

She reanimated herself after she died, which she reanimated after Gon smashed her skull. This isn't complicated at all, getting knocked on unconscious doesn't mean she was dead, Gon literally said he was making she was dead by smashing her skull. Gon who massively dwarfed her in Nen still took multiple of his most powerful attacks to finally smash her skull while she was unconscious and defenseless.

We did see some people deviate. However remember most of the people in the army, even with memories were just villagers with no real aspirations. They couldn't go back home and they have no desire of the outside world, what difference does it make to serve the queen. Those that had memories of their life that worked with Gyro were the more rebellious sort.

Youpi did nothing wrong

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>We did see some people deviate.
True but only after the queen died and they had no other options.
>just villagers with no real aspirations.
Therefore they should just torture/kill/eat other people and maybe some people they used to know because they had no ambitions or desire in their lives?
>they couldn’t go back home and they have no desire of the outside world,
They could always try to go back home or live in the wilderness.
>what difference does it make to serve the queen.
Well being a slave and killing your own countrymen that is.
>Those that had memories of their life that worked with Gyro were the more rebellious sort.
Yes their loyalty was very strong to Gyro.

He never killed anyone, so that’s a plus. And he was loyal and merciful. What would he have with his life if he was the only ant alive?

The "ants remember their past lives" was a bullshit asspull that shouldn't be given much thought

The mere concept of each brain being perfectly converted into an ant when the Queen was scarfing them down at random is ridiculous even for a story with ridiculous concepts such as a game island being maintained by a dozen ridiculously powerful people for no real purpose at all

Kite Gon Hisoka Machi being alive is also a asspull. It seems Togashi goes one asspull followed by another asspull. Where would Togashi be without asspulls I wonder? Togashi’s asspulls knows no limit.

Gyro left as soon as he was born, he had his memories from the start. There was the natural instinct to serve the queen regardless, the only ant not born like this was Mereum since his status was above hers. It also took a long time for people to begin to remember who they were, Colt was one of the first and he only had a inklilng. Meleoran didn't get his memories till after Mereum killed Peggy.

No they couldn't return home, they just spent months ravaging the country side, abducting and killing villagers. Brovada and Shidori were lucky in that regard.

The process wasn't perfect, most ants don't remember or only have incomplete memories. Yeah you are not supposed to think super hard about it, they bring up the concept of souls and possible reincarnation as alternative theory.

Imagine having to live in a login and out room waiting for someone to get this super rare super expensive game with a very limited player cap, just to repeat some npc lines over and over again.

>netero said pic related in under 0.1 seconds
just how fast can this old man talk?

I don't think asspull is the right word, but ant reincarnation does feel funny at times. Like how does the mechanic work? The queen does not eat humans one by one after a while, she eats a huge amalgamation of them. How many lives could one ant theoretically recall?

No. Meruem would have figured out prime Netero's "pattern" eventually and end the fight in one hit afterwards.

But the slaps did literally nothing. Netero had to semi-kill himself to deal SOME damage.
Prime Netero would have maimed Meruem but certainly not kill Meruem

>not featuring them

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He started feeling pain very quickly, and it would've gotten exponentially worse with time. In a hypothetical situation where Meruem (before he met Komugi) and Netero are dropped into an isolated arena to duke it out, with no outside elements such as the fate of humanity or the fast approaching Pouf and Youpi:
>Meruem doesn't manage to land a single hit
>gets frustrated like he did after not being able to beat Komugi
>never gets enough "downtime" to come up with looking for a rhythm
>arrogance and the fact he feels pain for the first time worsen his composure
>eventually gives up and is beaten into a pulp after days of being pummeled
Getting beaten by Komugi made him more humble and collected, and also the nature of the game allowed him to even think in terms of finding a rhythm, it took him time to even remember to try to apply the principle to a fight, which he didn't know would work, due to the chaotic nature of fighting he may have never even come up with it. Without the strategic knowledge gained by playing Gungi, the fight becomes Gon-san vs Pitou, over a longer timeframe. Old Netero wins every time, prime Netero does it faster.

How so?

Is it possible to maintain Ken while unconscious?

Old mangakas always liked those things you zoomer newfag.

He's a character so focused on martial arts that even his divine Hatsu is just an unfathomably fast physical attack, having his ultimate attack be a DBZ-type energy beam felt like a cheap move on Togashi's part. I liked the "gentle indiscriminate love" part, but ultimately it was just used to hype up Meruem since he survived it with no major injuries, I wish Netero's strength was left more open-ended.

He's an enhancer, having his ultimate attack be a super energy beam only makes sense. It's just a generic last resort nuke you don't have to look too much into it.

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How would Meruem fare against Tonpa?

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You should add that old man from the Zoldyck family that Netero fought and was said to be the only person to survive a fight against in S (maybe low barrel SS since the phrasing made it seem like Netero is way weaker than that guy).
Forgot his name but i just remember he's the only enhancer of the family.

I feel like the phrasing was biased since it was Zeno talking about it. Maha being a killer might also be interpreted as "Netero is the only person Maha couldn't kill" which at the very least puts them neck and neck.

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Why did netero waste so much energy on his weak noodle Buddha attacks when he could do it like Gon and finish the fight in one punch

Thrill of the fight, they could've easily bombed Meruem from low orbit but I doubt Netero would let them

That explains Hiatus x Hiatus tards with Hisoka and Gon x Kilua hahahaha

also all the idiots that want Kurapika to be a girl

Not sure what you're talking about, Gon gave up all his future nen for a powered up state that still took dozens upon dozens of punches to actually kill Neferpitou, and even then his hatsu manipulated his body into attacking Gon and easily severed his arm.

>"Him"
Why the fuck did the translator go full retard about Pitou's gender?

user...

The translator admitted her mistake. I don have the link but theres some Pitoufag copypasta with a link to a podcast where the translator admits Pitou is a girl but it was too late to change the pronouns in the manga.

I hope he would have become a scholar of sort due to all the wisdom he learned from his fight with Knuckle. He would probably take up a very honorable profession and use his transformation abilities to the fullest extent.

Bump

>Power level thread
Sad. Stfu shonen tards, go back to My Hero Academia or One Piss to discuss this shit

>I am the most epiccest powerful human ever with the bestest nen
>Jobs to a few month old literal insect

The insect left the fight pretty dead

What would Hisoka do against the ants? Would he go full retard like he did against Chrollo, or just run away?

Job

>powerlevel hunter x hunter threads are now common on Yea Forums
the state of the shonen refugees who finally got tired of pretending to complain about hxh for the sake of the dull repetition of their pirate/superhero manga and are now watching it "unironically", as they like to call it, even tho they will never be able to grasp anything deeper than "my fighting scenes"

>watching anime
>pretending one kind is superior to another
It's all the same shit

Kurapika isn't a girl?!?

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He can be, if you want him to

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> Meruem tries to kill Pitou with a blow to the head
Nothing happens she easily tanks it, doesn't even move.

>Gon nonchalantly kicks Pitou in the body
Instantly completely broken down, she is agony.

Shitthread/10

>No they couldn't return home
:(

Based Koala,
I believe his reincarnation theory and souls recycle

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Remember the 5 million citizens...

>also all the idiots that want Kurapika to be a girl
Go fuck yourself homo nigger.

It's pretty obvious how it works. Each ant is made up of several humans, but their memories and personality are based on whatever soul was strongest. Like how Mars tests M&Ms for breeding by which one can withstand being crushed against other M&Ms. Whatever soul is left at the end, becomes the main soul of the ant.

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Hell no. His attacks will hit a lot harder and that's it.

>His attacks will hit a lot harder and that's it.
So... he'd win? He was starting to do damage after a while, if he had the ability to hit even harder why couldn't he win?

Uhmm did you forget the kick that sent her flying and almost made her spit her organs out?

A dictatorship

Kurapika is a girl, just ignore this seething faggot.

No, but Saitama wouldn't have to even get serious.

Also both Aizen and Madara and not even their strongest forms mind you would win too.

modern science IN REAL LIFE still has no idea how consciousness works or where it comes from. and this is fiction, so they can do literally whatever they want.

>Taking the time to write out "Saitama could beat a character"

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Bump

I also pointed out Madara and Aizen would win. 8^)

>Each ant is made up of several humans
And animals, don't forget the animals.
>but their memories and personality are based on whatever soul was strongest.
Yes some of them are, but the weakest human/animal souls goes to the afterlife while the strongest souls are reincarnated as chimera ants. A lot of souls goes this way while others goes that way. So basically we are dealing with reincarnation and each ants has one soul with one or 2 memories of their past lives.

But not all the ants are reincarnated souls, most ants are new beings, just starting with their life for the first time, like Meruem and his royal guards for example.

>Whatever soul is left at the end, becomes the main soul of the ant.
Yes whichs means they didn't go the afterlife but returned to the world to be reborn as a chimera ant.

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They could have nuked them from orbit the entire time. Literally the only reason they assaulted the capital is because Netero wanted to fight Meruem. He was planning to throw all their lives away to do it. That's why he Meruem saw he was in checkmate from the start, he was only alive because of the whims of this old man.

Uhm why are you guys discussing power level faggotry? You should instead discuss the Hegelian, Nietzscheian and Kafkaesque themes in HxH.
Togashi is clearly a fan of classic German literature.

> but ant reincarnation does feel funny at times.
It does haha.
> Like how does the mechanic work?
It's simple. The ant queen eats the living being and the stronges soul gets to be reincarnated as the chimera ant while the other souls departs to the afterlife. I think nen has to do something with the souls selection process.
>The queen does not eat humans one by one after a while, she eats a huge amalgamation of them.
Yeah so what? They die and some of them returns.
>How many lives could one ant theoretically recall?
One or two I guess? Like I said before some souls (along with their memories) departs to the afterlife or whatever and some of them shares their memories with animal's, so 2 or 3 at the most?

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The CA are like Gregor Samsa, that's very Kafkaesque imho.

based

>blind half-retarded chess lady in the same tier as fucking nen users
What?

I dont see the point of making hxh threads if they dont even reach the bump limit. just wait till togashi releases the chapters!!

>Dismissing retard strength

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Oh, I'm sorry, please don't use it to beat me up.

kek

I asked in the other thread, but anyone remember those color drawings for each chapter in the Succession War that had something pertinent to the chapter in them? Anyone remember what the website is with them?

>Shidori
Who?

>his

We don't know how powerful he was at his prime, the only reference we get is that he survived his fight with Hama and that's like such a great praise but then again, we also don't know anything about Hama, so...
All that said I'm gonna throw in a No.
The whole point of Meruem's character was that he absolutely CANNOT be defeated in battle with raw force, the real savior of humanity was Komugi.