Anime can never be as intellectual as literatu-

the truth

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Angel's Egg is missing bro.

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Urasawa is a hack, fuck Monster, fuck 20th and FUCK PLUTO

>Berserk
>intellectual

Some people think everything good has to automatically be "intellectual"

what is it in the top-left corner?

LOGH is good but it's still genre fiction

The rest are entirely dismissible, although Utena is genuinely great.

I have tried getting into anime several times in the past few years. All of them were incredibly juvenile. There are some kino Japanese animated films, but these are all firmly in the category of 'family film' and therefore also somewhat juvenile. The only anime I could stand (that I actually made it half of the way through) was Welcome to the NHK. Even then, I took a break a few episodes in to read the novel, which I really enjoyed. I went back to the anime but just couldn't finish it.

I really gave the medium a try, but I am now more convinced than ever that its reputation as being exclusively for children and manchildren is entirely deserved.

The Tatami Galaxy

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Based

The single greatest piece of animation of our era

It's good, but not that good.

It's funny and it's got funny characters.
Also helps that the art isn't anime-like.

Mushishi average IQ exceeds 200

based

names?

>Wow look it's a metaphor! Probably the greatest piece of art of the XX century!

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Left to right, top to bottom
Tatami galaxy
FLCL
Serial experiment lain
Evangelion?
Welcome to the NHK
Texhnolyze
LOGT
Berserk
Mushishi

cringe and retardpilled

I'm not an anime expert but I thought monster was the best one. no pretentious stuff and just a well rounded show

and while we're going full weeb I recommend reading 'The house in fata morgana'. Better than any anime I've seen

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You dumb teen, you think you're smart or some shit ?
You watch cartoons, not even people on the Internet take you seriously, irl they probably think you have autism and feel sorry for you.
Dumb punk, idiotic kid.

This is the only truly artful anime that has ever and likely will ever be produced.

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>It's funny and it's got funny characters.
So it's an average anime?

Based as fuck, great movie

5/9
All in all, pretty good

pretty much but the dialogue is super fast so your eyes hurt after each episode

I don't watch anime anymore and read visual novels instead, as they are a superior medium for escapism.

Pretty good coming of age story with an artstyle and narrative pace that reflect the story.

No, the average anime has Marvel movie-tier comedy and poorly delivered actual "jokes".
This is funny and actually has thought put into the humor, and not the memes.
Watch the show and tell me the chin dude isn't funny. You won't.

>The Tatami Galaxy
wait a fucking minute... why are there two movies with the exact same characters? I watched this before, but it was just one night and the girl drank a lot. There was a book fair and some theater plot, a guy who was actually a trap... I don't get it

>they literally just have to put in a male character whos nihilistic and edgy and weeaboos think its high art

Anime as a medium is exclusively nihilistic, obviously.

Don't forget the Christian imagery! Weebs love when anime alludes to books they haven't read.

Based

Wrong

-re

>no gurren lagann
: ^ )

Is texhnolyze worth watching?
I've heard very polarized opinions.

Yes, but understand that the beginning of the show is slow; there's a reason, in that it's trying to make a point about something, but some people apparently can't seem to make it past that part.

t. shonenfag or moefag

average anime "humor" is terrible

you think the average ironic weeb will actually take the time to watch the classic? No one watches gurren lagann, cowboy bebop or code geass anymore, even more so for gurren lagann who has been "replaced" by Kill la Kill

It's sad how nobody is talking about pic related. Ping pong has some pretty strong existential and nihilistic themes. Best anime oat if you ask me.

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>anime "intellectuals"

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dumb mod should have just deleted the thread

Self-inserting teenagers and college freshmen. No well adjusted individual thinks this garbage is good, especially since its padded out of the ass and about 7 episodes too long.

Same universe, different main characters
Beta-itis can happen to anyone

The message isn't profound, but its delivery and presentation is great. It isn't an intellectual masterpiece, but saying it's garbage doesn't really make you seem well adjusted, just contrarian.

>but its delivery and presentation is great
Finding an appropriate amount of episodes to tell your story is part of what something great. Read the novels, secondary. The show is 7 episodes too long. And that automatically disqualifies it from being good, let alone being great.

mine is better

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FLCL isn't supposed to be intellectual, and it's not meant to be over-analyzed. It's just a coming of age story with a bunch of other stuff packed in for the sake of being cool and experimental.

Not only literature. Anime can never be as intellectual as movies, TV shows, video games etc. Stop taking cartoons seriously.

t. someone who hasn't read the novel.
The anime is obviously superior.

Dude it's about talent and making friends along the way.
It's literally shounen tier but done really well.

I agree that movie format would suit it better, but it doesn't automatically make the whole show garbage. I enjoyed even the "extra" episodes and while they are not necessary, they do add a bit to the story. If you believe that disqualifies it from being good, you are only stating your opinion. It's not a sign of being well adjusted individual or whatever you try to make it look like.

>I agree that movie format would suit it better
It wouldn't.

Found the SEETHING brainlet oh no no no
Besides The Tunnel, Western literature hasn't had a good book since Nabokov, so that's not a big accomplishment.

I’ve always viewed anime in the same light as Popeye or Donald Duck cartoons, they have artistic qualities, but they’re anything but intellectual.

Why do teens and intellectual lightweights flock to Groundhog Day and repetition so much? Utena, Tatami Galaxy, Re:Zero.

Power fantasy x fear of death
>Oh man, imagine if I could do the same things over and over again, it's just like my video games!
Nice digits by the way.

fite me irl

>Lain
yikes

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>Mirai Nikki
>Intellectual
OHNONONONO...

You posted the wrong Yamamoto

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stop frogposting

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Are you just pretending to be retarded?

>he thinks NHK is anything other than trash that losers gobble up because "omg literally me"

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>the art isn't anime-like
So you're blind?

>implying literature is inherently "intellectual"
yeah the Twilight saga is a real artistic achievement

something doesn't have to be intentionally 'intellectual' to be very narratively dense, layered and worthy of repeat viewings

shit tier

shonen is a demographic. no demographic or demographic's common themes has any inherent 'artistic currency' (or lack thereof). why can a story about talent and friendship not be deep?

>no GITS

>EVA
>Intellectual

kek

The people that say that dont even read books.

stop making this thread

Berserk isn’t intellectual it’s designed to be emotional.

Half of these are adaptations of literature.

Lain is trash.

The entire time I was watching it, I thought: why are these characters just staring at each other? why does it take them like 5 minutes to answer a question? do they have autism? do autists think this is deep?

>literature
LOL

I agree. FLCL is my favorite anime. I love the narrative and the way it's presented, but I don't view it as being intellectually deep.

Intellectual things don't have to be "deep"

Heh kiddo, manga are well recognized to be part of literature, and not even in just in Japan.
The Leipzig book fair in Germany, one of the biggest book fairs in Europe by my headcanon, even has a huge dedicated manga area which is well visited.

Define intellectual.

>FLCL is my favorite anime

0.10 USD have been deposted into your account, Mr Johnson.

>book fair
>as a huge dedicated manga area
Woah, they have books at a book fair. Unfortunate that being a book doesn't make something literature.

Read a book

have sex

Well then Shakespeare isn't literature either! Because he wrote plays, not intended to be read.. but to be watched

nah, it's all good

Literature is so overrated

>Lain is trash.
Wow you are so refined and elite, your power level must be over 9000.

The best.

Thank you.

What I'm actually saying is that you are just pretentious as fuck, and your behavior is especially embarrassing on an anonymous site.

Thank you

Remove Berserk from your list. People consider it mature thanks to the artstyle and the mindless violence.

Where's Hunter x Hunter?

What counts as mindful violence then?

lol

I like anime but come on, even if it is good it is not on the same level as high literature

Yeah, it's funny that a list that claims to be intellectual lacks such an academically rigorous tour de force.

Have book
Read a sex

rate this one

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High literature is boring. Anime is not. I don't give a fuck about anything else.

Well, at least you are honest

filtered

It's definitely worth trying, I've noticed you really do either hate it and never finish it or love it fanatically.

>anime
>intellectual
lol

What's middle right?

I've noticed that too. I love the show to bits, especially the "slow, boring" beginning that seems to filter people. There's just so much atmosphere and personality in the early episodes that hooks me completely but at the same time I can see why it turns people off.

What is even considered intellectual literature is it the stuff you read in English class? I mean those aren't exactly that complicated seeing as most high school students can gleam a message out of them.
I'm not saying they're bad or anything but they're just as heavy handed with their messages as any other medium but I do wonder is there anything even better out there?

Only intelligent literature is non-fiction you niggers. Escapism is gay

Mirai Nikki of course, a show of unrivaled intelectual sophistication, AOTY 2011 and 12th most popular on MAL. It is said that Shakespeare himself was inspired by this story of tragic love.

Nothing, Non-Mongoloids settle issues with words

>all fiction is escapism
I doubt you've ever read a real work of literature.

The history of warfare on the European continent says otherwise.

Yes but it will never be as intellectual as soviet films

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how about soviet anime

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I didn't get it

>taste this good

Shut up, I read Stefanie Meyer's entire Twilight series

I watched it as a kid.All I remember is that's it's more or less tom and jerry,but the wolf is stoned 24/7 and overall it feels like a wild acid trip.

Me too, but I've recently seen it on TV after about 20 years and suddenly the rabbit is acting extremely gay. It didn't bother me as a child, I guess.

>A bunch of the anime in the image are adaptations of literature

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hey this anime is reeeeally cool

For me, it's Kino no Tabi.

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if you thought the first half was slow you, you should stick to murican cinema, low IQ-kun, and your shows such as OPM and the current fox girl anime.

>code geass
cringe

I tried Tastumi Galaxy but they just talk so fucking fast, I really liked what I saw though

[everyone is mad]

>implying literature is intellectual
grow up and get a brain faggot

looks like shit

nah, you just lack the necessary intelligence quotients to even begin to understand these pure, unadultered kino masterpieces

I don't care about the shows. It simply looks bad. Edit it some more.

the chin dude was annoying af. i didnt laugh, different stroke for different folks I guess.

It's meant to be unique and artistic.

KINO IS FUCKING KINO
I'M A KINOPHILE

there are nine squares

Feel like Yea Forums takes anime way too seriously, which results in retarded threads like this

This thread was moved here from Yea Forums

-re. u gay

Leave it to Yea Forums to pretend to be ironic normalfags and shit apart the only medium they genuinely enjoy.

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Okay, you pretentious fucks. Explain what it was all about.

Somebody help me remember the name of the anime. Slow paced, samurai MC, weird ass eyes, 12 episodes, MC was working as a guard in some episodes, there was this white-haired secondary MC. Thank you.

Nothing at all

>Yea Forums takes the objectively best medium and turns it into brainless waifu wars and muh comfy escapism
>takes anime way too seriously

Being abandoned by God

>the rabbit is acting extremely gay
Damn, user, now I think about it too

Which scene makes you think so?

The egg being broken with nothing inside and the ending scene zooming out on the capsized Ark

Katanagatari?

I see. But what about the rest of the movie. The whole 80 minutes? Just filler for the main point?

No. No waifufagism.

fillerfags FUCK OFF

Hardly. Go read Genesis

I read and watched, so I was able to pick up quite a lot about the story. I think it's ultimately just giving victory to those who want it, not to those who are "the best"

The creator of angels egg had no idea what the meaning of it is, exactly same things as Hideaki Anno using Christian imagery only because it looked cool, you people make mountains out of molehills

holy shit I like Berserk but let's not pretend that it's anything deeper than just a really mad dude in a bat shit insane world. there is no philosophical depth to the series besides the idea of causality and fate vs determination. The story is meant to be enjoyed just for being very action filled and being about redemption

Not to mention that the Berserk anime is... not nearly as good as the manga, so OP is clearly a faggot.

I still don't get what you faggots mean with "intellectual".
Most of the series in OP's pic I consider pretty damn good, but I wouldn't call any of them intellectual, since to me that seems to be a pretentious vague term used by conceited people trying to boost their ego.

Berserk even devolves into a typical JRPG adventure story after Conviction arc (even though Millenium Falcon arc is still good).

My waifu is better than yours... idiot

Rate

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If it has value worth discussing outside pure enjoyment then it's intellectual.

>no From new world

No one ever said this and if anyone happens to believe it they've not read more than 2 books. Not all acclaimed books are good, people. There are "universally loved" and "essential" books that come off as shallow and boring to many people myself included, for example Fahrenheit 451. It's literally the same shit as any other medium: you can always find intellectual value in something under the right circumstances. Just because literature is commonly considered a medium for smart people doesn't mean most of it isn't shit, as is the case in any other medium.

>FUCK PLUTO
fuck you honestly

the middle is the free space, yes?

I’m talking about faggots like you in particular

Sturgeon's Law really fucked everyone's heads ITT

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You're thinking of Night is Short, Walk on Girl by the same author. It happens in the same univers Tatami Galaxy is a 12-ep anime.

To OP, Kaiba isn't on the list so your list is wrong.

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What even the fuck is "high literature?" Something to be taken seriously only if you're baked?

>Monogatari
based
>Monster
based
>Jin Roh
based
>Kaiji
based
>Steins Gate
alright, didn't complete it though
>Berserk
based
>Made in Abyss
didn't watch yet
>Cromartie highschool
based

didn't watch bottom right

over all really solid

/This

Anime is not objectively best medium retard. It's just fucking cartoons. Same as Tom and Jerry.

If that is appropriate, then what OP posted is indeed intellectual.

I've watched zero anime from your stupid grid, but I can tell from a glance they're all pretentious shit. With the exception of maybe Lain and Berserk (and Berserk is obviously only good in manga form). I don't even know what the top-left and mid-right are. Maybe you should try reading a good story once in a while instead of jerking off to your High IQ Rick and Morty stuff. Your taste is so pleb. I bet you don't even recognize the artist of pic related.

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>I've watched zero anime from your stupid grid, but I can tell from a glance they're all pretentious shit.
>200IQ

I don't get what you mean. What value is there in something that isn't enjoyable?

Steins Gate is an example of how really fucking gay an anime can get.

You should watch the Ninja Scroll OVA. Some of the best art ever drawn.

How can you say that when throughout the series the most passionate and dedicated competitor get stomped by people that are simply more talented?

there's a manga frame in the OP tho

fuck i recognise that artist

But OP specifically said anime.

>FLCL was about toxic relationships

pretty grim undercurrent beneath all the wackiness.

>talking shit about tom and jerry
kys

intellectual stimulation i guess

About as clear and specific as my mental disorder.

Watch ping pong, like, right now

I like it too but it's just cartoons. Nothing more.

>Sataniaposter's opinion

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there is only one good ping pong anime

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Cartoons, and therefore anime, are second best medium (after vidya).

I don't get why a cartoon can't be intellectual.
Animation is just a medium, and I don't see what shortcomings it has compared to other medium when it comes to conveying a message.
I read my fair share of high literature and watched a fuck ton of arthouse films, and yet when exploring anime I consistently find very creative, charming, interesting and resonating stuff.
I don't get your attitude at all.

If you are a manchild ofc

>ofc
Summer's here.

Because it's children's media. Come back when you see adult animation except sitcoms (cartoons) and otaku shit.(anime)

t. seething Eurofag
Your time of Tintin and Asterix has passed.

??????

my nigga Jacopo did nothing wrong

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> being a plot faggot in this day and age
Never gonna make it.

Define high literature. 'cause i consider the illiad and the odissey as high literature, and that's so exciting

hidamari sketch is the thinking mans anime

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hey that's pretty good

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There couldn't be a more perfect image to describe every 3x3 thread ever posted here. Replace any square on there with Non Non Biyori or Yuru Yuri and it becomes 100% better.

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>only lain and texhnolyze are good
>they're both by the same guy
why is anime so shit

>none of those anime are remotely as intellectual as the greatest books
That's true, but when you look at low level literature like Catcher in the Rye, A Clockwork Orange, 1984 and Virginia Woolf, some of the meme shows start to look pretty good.

Steins Gate is a methapor of CUTE TRAP GIRLS (male (girl(male))) WITH D I C K S

Monster is awful. Pluto was only good because of Tezuka.
Based
>so relatable
>literally me
>so relatable
>literally me
Nowhere near as good as 1001 Nights.

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What about the rest ??

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Salinger is good unironically

I was talking about Konaka, not ABe

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>Texhnolyze
>good
And the only connection between them is the character designer. They're written and directed by different people.

They're both written by Konaka, you mongoloid

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t.brainlet

i hope you get raped

>frogposting
>yikes
t.underage redditard

you suck wee wee

cringe

>There couldn't be a more perfect image to describe every 3x3 thread ever posted here
3x3s nowadays are full of moeshit and hxh
>Non Non Biyori or Yuru Yuri and it becomes 100% better
nobody's regarding moeshit as artsy

>escapism
this thread isn't about escapism, dumbfuck

you forgot steins;gate, madoka, and diamond is unbreakable

Sara-ya Goyou

youtube.com/watch?v=I0w2Xu3wkV0

I only watched FLCL, Lain, Evangelion and Berserk.

Why are these and the other shows supposed to be intellectual? Honest question.

Lain is just edgy garbage

This.

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