If you kill her, you'll be just like her

Her fate in the Web/Light Novel is pretty disturbing

Only in the web novel, not light novel

I firmly believe nips do this on purpose to cause outrage and more attention to the show. I makes no sense to do this on an anime full of misery and bloodshed.

This is some retarded logic and by no doubt the way of thinking of a beta cuck.

Learn English, 3rd worlder.

I made no mistake you retard.

Learn English, 3rd worlder.

>she came from that
What a slut.

>if the enemy kills you, they'll be just like you

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This.

>but if you kill yourself, you will be the greatest

I watch anime to get away from dumb western garbage cliches like this. What the fuck japan?

It's all about logic:
>villain has killed 100s of people
>heroes finally have him cornered
>but if you kill him then you are somehow just as bad as the villain who killed 100s of people
>so you don't kill him
>then he gets away and kills 100 more people
>those hundred people's blood are now on your hands and could have been prevented if you JUST FUCKING KILLED THE VILLAIN

FUCK WRITERS FUCKING HACKS I COULD DO A BETTER JOB AND I'M A BASEMENT DWELLING NEET

This is fucking pathetic. Justify this cliche I fucking dare anyone to. The lack of logic and reasoning makes it impossible. Fucking hack writers.

she's brutally killed in vol 19 of the LN tho

I only like this trope when the enemy is a cute loli who has no regrets

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Wrong. In the original, he ask for her to be killed, and others stop it. The anime makes him not okay with doing shit to her, but in the web novel he is the one rooting for her death more than anyone.

Have sex

I knew this show was dogshit, bottom of the barrel trash from JUST the first 15 minutes of the first episode.
Fuck off.

if only hitler didn't kill himself

>Have sex

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>villain was actually just a decent human bean who got traumatized and had a bad childhood
Where's the villains who are just evil and misguided because theyre fucked in the head? And not in a Joker memey way

>Where's the villains who are just evil and misguided because theyre fucked in the head?
I don't know what you're talking about, anime is full of those

Heroes are supposed to have the moral high ground. They seek justice, not revenge. A principle, nothing personal. You want an anti-hero, they don't give a shit.

but 99% of the time there is a flashback episode or a final speech and we learn the villains parents were deaded long ago that made him evil
then everyone goes "so deep" and the villain is redeemed

>The moral high ground is letting evil run around and not stomping it out once and for all

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Neither of those tropes were used in Shield Hero though. Why is this thread full of people who don't watch it complaining?

>letting evil run around
What hero does that?

Their morality > other people's lives

Goddamnit Batman, Just rape the joker! The fucking japs figured this out already!

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She actually did the things you posted so on the second time they got hold of her they had her raped and killed.

>let them live in humiliation rather than publicly execute them
I can understand this. The execution was not a moment of passion, but a public spectacle. Not having the stomach for that as opposed to combat makes a certain amount of sense.

she's hot so it's OK.

(Naofumi should've given her a good dicking though)

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I don't get why you use a picture of Malty when everybody knows that she gets guro'd to death

Apparently Naofumi according to this guy because Malty goes on to on to kill a bunch of people and fuck things up.

>giving them a weird nickname
>humiliation
whatever you say user

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The only time this logic worked as in Se7en. Any other time it appears it's fucking retarded. There's no time where killing a mass murderer is a bad thing. If you have the chance to put an end to their murdering and you don't, the blood of their next victims is on your hands.

>t.Justin trudeau

Killing someone in cold blood while they're begging for their lives isn't easy. It's a fucking hard thing to accomplish.

And I'm lazy.

Unless the anime changed it Naofumi wanted her and the king dead but the queen cucked him out of it

How?

>In cold blood
>Putting to death a traitor who tried to murder you and many others

>hard thing to accomplish
>all you have to do is cut the rope and the guillotine does all the work for you
this is a whole new level of NEET

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>eggy
Now that's someone I haven't seen in a long time

Complete opposite (almost) in the anime. Everyone else wants her killed and Naofumi steps in at the last minute and essentially begs that she not be put to death and to just change her name to "bitch".

Let's be honest, he wouldn't have even gotten to the point of defending himself. Some people are so pathetic that they wouldn't have even argued against the false rape claim in the first place and just accepted their death.

Eh that kind of sucks but I guess it makes sense after changing the stuff with Raphtalia

>essentially begs
He put on a show to try and satisfy the audience's desire for blood, how in the world is that begging?

like that.

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>watching mormalfag anime
It's always the same obnoxious tropes.

I bet you the anime will change it too.

Does anyone have the link handy for the WN chapter that describes what eventually happens to Malty with the pig dismemberment guro video and all that?
I'm still blown away that he showed it to Raphtalia and Filo, WN Naofumi is such a psycho

who is that
they all look the same

After what I just saw, this isn't even underwhelming.

Learn English, 3rd worlder.

That looks like something a level 1 heal can fix.

>the only moral difference between an action is whether or not i like the person doing it
The thing that makes people villains is that they selfishly inflict their own morality, personal judgments, and/or feelings upon the world without the necessary social arbitration that makes similar actions acceptable.
Of course, absolutely none of that even applies to this stuation, because that wasn't why Naofumi spared them, and it the entire process of a thoroughly arbitrated, socially accepted event. Naofumi foisted his own personal feelings into the situation, making him act quite villain-like, except that the characters and the audience like him.
So, in short, you're fucking retarded no matter how you want to split this apple.

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Fornicate

nay.

NO!

what did she do that would justify death?

She's an old hag who tried to kill a loli, in my country that's at least 3 death penalties

>could make her your sex slave forever
>LOL I'll give her silly names that will teach her!

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>if you kill him he wins
>kills him anyway

I know at least one series has done this

>his only goal was breaking you/turning you into a killer
you kill him anyway and don't go on a murderous rampage afterward so the villain's final gambit accomplishes nothing, but you're still totally a bad person for doing it.

>his only goal was breaking you/turning you into a killer

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This, turn that bitch into your personal cumdump.

>I watch anime to get away from dumb western garbage cliches
you dont watch a lot of anime dont you
anime even gives you the sympathetic villain or the whole ass redemption arc. Defeating and even killing the enemy is a very murrican narrative.

>"Here lies Bitchslut, she scored a lot"

I'd spare them if they kept the slave crests, only for them to realize they chose a fate worse than death

>implying I wanted to win in the first place
All that matters is that they're dead.

Fucking Aizen,

Brainlet. Anime Naofumi just didn't want the queen to live with having killed her husband and daughter.

Tried to kill a princess and got a bunch of innocent men executed.

>not enslaving them to your own party and making them carry your stuff
cmon kid

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The question is how will she redeem herself in the remaining 3 episodes.

>Attempts to kill the crone princess
>Attempts to kill one of the four heroes needed to defend the country/world multiple times
>Burned a fores
>Still doesn't feel any remorse
I think under most circumstances treason is more than enough reason to be killed in mediaval times.

Wasn't Bitch and Trash stripped of their status as royalty apart of their new nicknames?

The point of forgiving the villain is to give them another chance and redemption. If you kill the villain after they kill 100 peoples, you have 101 deaths. But if you forgive them and manage to reform them, they will help you save 100 other people's life. If you fail to reform them, it's your fault not doing things correctly.

Watch other series, you should get your fix since Vento aureo is airing this season

>Neither of those tropes were used in Shield Hero though
>Hero spared the villainess's life
>Villainess's had a poor childhood due to her mother's mistreatment

Not to mention there being villains so bad that you'd be insane to forgive them and/or have them reform instead of splitting their skulls with your sword.

Sadly this shit is all too common in comic books...

He never said that.

>Vento aureo
Jojo is trash user

Her other self kills her?

I'd settle for a gangbang rape followed by a life of hard labor

Why bother grooming a villain into someone who will save 100 lives when you can do the same with a normal person?

>treason
She didn't even collude with a foreign enemy or wage war against her own country though.

>If you fail to reform them, it's your fault not doing things correctly.
Indeed, it will be your own fault for even trying.

Not all anime are like this.

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Next you'll lie about Killary never said "If women must get raped by Muslims to show our tolerance, then so be it. Thank God for planned parenthood"

Because villains tend to be better than a normal person in some aspects, that's how they managed to kill 100 people in the first place.

>if you kill 100 people, you are better than a normal person
Holy shit nibber.

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>Hard Labor
Why that? She could easily escape it.

The point is that she's just literally a punching bag for the protagonist to make him deeper, but this time it's a woman. Highschool DxD unironically did it better and didn't drag it on for no reason.
Also the MC is a faggot.

>If you kill the villain after they kill 100 peoples, you have 101 deaths
Talk about missing the trees from the forest.

They occasionally make an appearance in media, yes. It is pretty rare though since 10 year ago or so, complicated villains with sob story became much more appealing to the public audience. Doflamingo from One Piece is one of those fucked up villains who were born evil.

>>Hero spared the villainess's life
Due to complicated political reasons the anime omitted. Besides, he barely agreed to spare her.
And he was proven right. If she died there and then, the world would be probably doomed and not because Naofumi needs her help to defeat the waves.
>>Villainess's had a poor childhood due to her mother's mistreatment
That's fucking bullshit and you don't know what you are talking about. She had a loving family and a normal childhood. Her younger sister became an heir only after it was obvious how vile Malty was.

The morals in this show seem all over the place. There is slavery and torture of innocents but then they pull this cartoon shit

based skeleton man

>villian of the story is a former hero who started killing

Funny thing is, she's probably the better written female character in this trash series.

The rest are generic af, girls who just live to worship the MC without having any personality for themselves, their purpose is to make shield bro look good

If Naofumi joins Isekai Quartet, he and Kazuma could bond over armor sellers having their backs.

I kid. Naofumi won't bond with anyone in the cast.

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yeah man

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That's not why Batman doesn't kill. He doesn't kill because he knows he's not a vigilante purely to help people, but also for revenge. He just wants to beat the shit out of criminals for what happened to his parents. It's a beast he battles with constantly, and would he kill people, he'd undoubtedly be consumed by it. So he has to draw the line somewhere

Personally I always liked Batman for it. He's flawed, and he recognizes it's not his job to be a judge and give out death sentences on the spot, he'd very quickly stop seeing the criminals as humans at all and just use it all as an excuse to indulge in violence to feel better

Except he didnt spare them because "he'd become like them" or due to any moral high ground

He just didnt like the idea of the Queen killing her own husband and daughter. The whole "death is too light for them durrr" was just his way of posturing and deflecting any ire away from the Queen.

that devotion to her family tho. husband fucks everything she was trying to do and daughter plots to fuck things up after and tries to kill the other daughter and still she was willing to sacrifice herself to save these two rats.

The queen was fucking retarded
>hurr I was ready to give out my own life
what the fuck does she expect her rotten to the core daughter, who already once tried to assassinate her own fucking little sister, would do? Turn a new leaf? With the queen out of the way she'd just double down on her schemes. Killing herself the queen would've ensured the death of Melty as well

this second cour has been nothing but disappointment

What's funny is that even Trigun, the anime/manga based entirely around pacifism and not killing the bad guy doesn't even use this logic.

Sure the logical decision would be to kill them but the Queen understandably still loves them (especially Bitch) simply because they are family. She tried to put her duty before her feelings but confessed herself that she would have failed and begged them to be saved

Naofumi didnt intervene because he cares about Trash or Bitch but because he didnt want the Queen or Melty to have to go through killing their own family.

if only she would pay with her body to him

cant wait for the hmanga

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>Why do we have to stay outside? I wanna go in
>No, we can't fuck off
>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

What the FUCK was the point of that scene

That moustache guy is a cunt. That green haired girl becomes important soon.

Why did they change the writing of this series so much in the adaptation?

Question to lnfags, I remember reading the manga of tate no yusha a few years ago and from what I remember the racoon dog had bigger tits, also she seem more adult, here she looks like a teenage girl, is it just me or did the anime decided to make her look younger?

If he wanted her to suffer he should have made her a slave

Funny thing about eggman is he's had sex

its what happen in the Web novel she then get raped to death

Cringiest shit ever.

The web novel became a shitfest later one lol.

welp watching hentai when i get home.

This look like something right up Takeda Hiromitsu's alley

> pic
Cowboy Bebop?

...

>WHATS IN THE BOOOOX

I would've believed this better if she had a look of sorrow and desperately begged for forgiveness instead of that shit eating smirk she had

he shouldve just oyakodon'd

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It's kind of hilarious how some people are so obsessed and bad at interpreting things that this is what they got from Naofumi stopping the execution despite that nothing of the sorts was mentioned. And then they probably didn't watch the rest of the episode either to hear his reasoning.
Your name is now Bitchass Cockfaggot by the way.

What annoys me the most is that this cunt right here never intended to give Naofumi the satisfaction, she just put a parade to appease him and the kingdom, but she never had intention of actually executing them.

And what its worse, she intended to put Naofumi in a situation where he had no other choice but to spare them all, since her intention was to offer her life instead of her husband and daughter life. Something that she knew Naofumi wouldn't accept.

She is as manipulative and selfish as the rest of the family.

What annoys me the most is that Naofumi didn't have sex with ANY of them.

why would he want to? don't stick your dick in crazy, especially if they are hot and hold positions of power, you should learn these things user.

yet

Yeah. All shards of Medea can't stand each other.

Actually fucking her would have been an even better revenge. Just give her what she wanted from the first meeting.

Holy shit thats gay as fuck

[Spoiler]Ikr[/spoiler]
Queen seems pretty chill in the light novels and a huge supporter of naofumi.

If she wasn't such a bitch (or a bitch to others but not him), would Shield have tapped her?

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So Workers are the niggers of the Overlord universe?

No. He's an isekai character written by a jap. Japs don't know how relationships or sex works. Unless its a hentai

Probably, given his thoughts in volume 12/13.

king is pretty hot, though

What were his thoughts?

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I think it would have been more interesting if she wasn't retardely evil because an evil goddess had corrupted her at birth, but just another scummy noble doing ruthless shit to climb to the top after losing favor with her mother.

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Malty had sex with spear hero, so its entirely possible. That's something that was omitted from the anime.

>if you kill her, you'll be just like her
>no I won't. I'll still be alive.
Has anyone actually said this in response? Just thought of it, sounds pretty funny to me honestly.

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>implying it doesn't make perfect sense in Monster where the whole plot revolves against a battle of ideology

The only good thing that came out of this is the fanfic that has her decide not to frame him in the end and plans to seduce Naofumi, written mostly from her POV which makes it pretty interesting
Similar to what you said

80% of this thread is omega autists so retarded from disliking tropes, they apparently didn't even watch the rest of the episode.
Or think Naofumi magically acts that way with the hand gestures. It's like when people called Lelouch a moron when his Geass glitch turned on at the worst moment like it wasn't just more dumb plot anti-armor.

Naofumi would have been about as easy as Spear to seduce for her.

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Well naofumi goes to sitvelt or whatever the demi human nation is called that worships the shield hero. They try seducing and throwing a bunch of women at him and he has inner thoughts about how things might have been different has he been summoned there from the get go, he'd probably have a harem etc since that's how previous shield heroes have operated allegedly. (Or something along those lines).

Yeah but then you have the fact Joker has killed more people than 50% of all wars across history

I don't know why, but the more I hated her, the more I wanted to penetrate her with my dick. She just seemed to get hotter with each new shitty thing she did.

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>So, I'm writing this couple-
>Like a boy-girl thing?
>They both "like, like" each other.
>Oh, that's scandalous, Saitou-san!
>Yeah, so I'm thinking light handholding?
>Pushing the limits here, but storyboard it...

>Alright, fade from black and she's got two dicks in each ear!
>That's not nearly enough, Iwata-san.
>They are her own dicks!
>Looks like we got chapter 1.

There really is no middle-ground for adaptations.

I know it's definitely not the angle the WN/LN took, but I think it's kinda tragic that she couldn't be anything but a destructive sociopath thanks to Medea. Like if Medea hadn't entered the picture, she would have probably been more like a mature Melty than Bitch.

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>>Alright, fade from black and she's got two dicks in each ear!
>>That's not nearly enough, Iwata-san.
>>They are her own dicks!
kek

Blame comic books.

Batman in particular

The Japanese are completely aware of Americans constant bitching about " why don't you just kill the bad guy, what's wrong with Japanese people? "

Stop making any more bad impressions you fucks, it's just culture difference.

If that's the case, then what's the answer? Why don't you just kill the bad guy?

what happened in the WN?

She died.

Yea but how?

Painfully.

Could you blame his?

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It always bugs me when a show makes it evident that the henchmen are getting mowed down by the heroes without a second thought, but then the evil leader is somehow held to a higher standard of non lethal moves.

lets just say goosh goosh was less painful

Pretty sure it's this

>if you kill her, you'll be just like her
>if you kill your enemies, they win
Neither of this apply to Shield Hero. I swear some of you guys either flow from "this is misogynistic how could he punish her!" to "what a moralfag should have raped every hole in front of everyone"

Fuck batman

4u

Exactly, look at this wonderful example of moralfaggotry.
It's impressive how retarded people can get when they're complaining about things they hate.

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I need an edit of that with Naofumi tipping fedora and renaming Malty to M'lady.

Naofumi becoming a stand up comedian was my favorite part of the episode

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A reasonable person can understand when an exception to the rule is needed, just like they can understand that some crimes get the death penalty while others get a life sentence. Batman is not a reasonable person. He's a broken paranoid obsessive who's chosen violence as an emotional outlet, and he has the self-awareness to realize that he can't stop himself from becoming the next Punisher if he relaxes even a little.

It was so fucking stupid.
>"oh but he changed their names to Bitchi and Trash"
Its a non punishment, at least in western garbage like Game of Thrones, a queen got shaved, made to walk naked in front of all the peseants and was made a fool of in front of everyone.
While in this edgy isekai its just a name change.

Fuck you cunt, I hate it am I'm not american.

shes so cute, the bow is in the way though. cant tell if shes dfc

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Well, atleast Shield Hero is the only anime with a Nickelback insert song

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what's wrong and right is irreverent, it all depends on that person emotion. And Japanese has respect for people emotion and decision.

Naofumi didn't kill her because he felt bad, so be it. Stop bitching about character decisions.

cringe

>Attempting to kill the heir to the throne to put herself in place
>Not treason
Pick one

so hot

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Wholesome. Mynne a cute.

>Try to read the manga to the point where they left in the Anime
>A lot of things happens before they leave the castle.

The girls even got their class ups in the manga before they left the Castle, why the fuck the Anime skipped this? it is because they are against time now?

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This is the trope of the talentless writer.

In the manga he didn't give a shit about her dying until the arguably better proposal of renaming her.

I (and everybody) wait for this, fuck you moralfags! FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

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tell the loved ones of the 100 that died that the villain deserves 'redemption'
and if you gave that chance, he kills 100 more
let their loved ones know that the chance to stop him was there yet you did nothing and wanted them to be redeemed
if forgiveness could ctrl+z deaths then sure, go for redemption

More Malty

I don't remember any moralfagging in the episode. Revenge just didn't sit well with him.

Dude the only reason he didn't kill them was
a) queen wouldn't have allowed it
b) realized it would be more humiliating to have them live with their status stripped and ridiculous nicknames
Yes I know that he didn't went full bloodlust like in the manga, but it was still a far cry from "you'll be just like her"

What a bitch.

Naofumi was right though. Death sentence was too light a punishment. Being forced to live in shame is in fact worse.
Don't get me wrong, they should also receive jail time.

Reiner

fate worse than death is preferable to killing imo
end result however, regardless of justice/revenge/whatever bullshit, is that the villain can't commit mass homicide/whatever shit they did again
should that part above be fulfilled, then killing/rotting in a cell/torture with optional redemption is a go

No, the logic was that he didn't want to make the queen miserable. Because she sides with and supports him.

But okay, be a dope.

Hey those guys with broken arm and concussions are treated already in prison hospital. Also the boss is safely put in Arkham asylum.

Why does the concept of forgiveness trigger Yea Forums into a seething frothing mess? I thought this was a Christian board...

Yeah but she's cursed to basically be usalia's slave for the rest of her life with the constant anxiety of not knowing if she'll be able to make usalia happy

Yeah but then you ask Batman how many Bruce Waynes Joker has created and then go kill Joker and have the biggest PR boost of any person in history.

novels.pl/novel/Tate-no-Yuusha-no-Nariagari-WN/270/Chapter-270--The-Pig-King.html

shouldve just had shield fuck the queen infront of the king if he really wanted him to suffer.

Almost every comic book hero in existence except for guys like deadpool and punishes

>Christian board
kek

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That wasn't a shit-eating smirk, it was the face of a desperate, despairing person twisted into an attempt at a friendly smile to try and win Naofumi over

>if you kill him bad things will happen
>kill him anyway
>MC immediately suffers the consequences
John Wick is very anime

Read the mango from 0.

woah user how brutal, please think of children and muh ads!

That's only if the villain actually has a possibility of redemption then it makes sense and is the right thing to do. The issue is that this almost always happens with the most irredeemable fucks alive who often don't reform and go back to their old ways almost instantly.
Think about how few people complained about Vegeta joining the Z fighters

Are you shitposting? Holy shit, what a faggotry.

I only read the WN, is bitch god still a thing in the LN?

Except that batman constantly also saves the criminals from getting killed by more level headed heros

>everything in the series gets rewrited to the point of being absolutely different from the author's original idea
>just to maximize the sales of virgins buying the figurines and masturbating to them
anime is a cucked medium. you can't expect any originality or interesting characters, everything is more or less catering to people who buy merchandise. whole stories get rewritten just to not let the most popular characters die, since that would hurt sales.
this is why the west is, unfortunately, winning

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This is the gayest shit I ever read

this is why you should've dropped months ago like everyone who isn''t a normie-tier watcher or just retarded

>The point of forgiving the villain is to give them another chance and redemption. If you kill the villain after they kill 100 peoples

I'll give everyone else who entertains the idea of going forth and killing 100 people a second thought.

>But if you forgive them and manage to reform them,

I'll give everyone else who entertains the idea of going forth and killing 100 people a green light.

>If you fail to reform them, it's your fault not doing things correctly.

Oh, sure, when I have an opportunity, I'll bring a confessor, so that he may try to make a villain repent and reform before execution.

This is why Spider-Man is better. He always does non-lethal takedowns no matter if its a henchman or his boss and if he ever gets pissed the Villains know he can fuck them up beyond belief.

He actually went on a hunting spree against all villains and nearly killed the shocker. And another time he just went silent when encounter several of his grouped villains and they surrendered just because they thought he was super pissed when he didn't make any jokes.

>don't bitch about shit writing you'll hurt the poor author's fee fees

>I'll give everyone else who entertains the idea of going forth and killing 100 people a second thought.
Not really. I struggle to imagine anyone who would go through with killing 100 people (or doing any mass murder, really) having a second thought at a prospect of punishment.

>>>/reddit/
>>>/facebook/
>>>/hell/

I'm fine with them not killing her or the king, clearly that's not what the queen or Melt wanted. However, they should both spend the rest of their lives in a dungeon/prison for their behavior. I am salty that everyone just lets bitch go back to being an adventurer.

wait its this really what shield hero was like originally?

death by snu-snu

Christian forgiveness means suppressing your desire to get back at people who harmed or slighted you personally, not sparing criminals the punishments they are due for their transgressions against the law and common welfare.

>She had a loving family and a normal childhood
>Her own mother hates her
>Disinherit her even though she is the eldest princess

Did you even watch the episode? Even if he had wanted an execution the queen would have guilt tripped him into not doing it by exchanging her life for theirs.

The queen feels responsible because it's her fault that Malty turns out as she is now. She should fix that by show her motherly love and teach her to become a better person.

>>She had a loving family and a normal childhood
Father pampered her, mother was strict but fair. Did I mention that Malty poisoned her own brother?
>>Her own mother hates her
Possibly due to said poisoning and more things. And even though she was a bad girl, the queen still did not allow her to be executed.
>>Disinherit her even though she is the eldest princess
She was disinherited because she would be a horrible ruler. Melty was much more promising, so she was chosen as an heir. What's so strange about that?

Unironically yes. They steal, pillage and kill without remorse.

I might as well shill the fic in case someone is interested and since I talked about it. So far it's been good enough compared to 99% of the website and the author updates at a reasonable pace.
fanfiction.net/s/13260174/1/Ambition-of-the-Red-Princess

>just another scummy noble doing ruthless shit to climb to the top after losing favor with her mother.
That is the case. The goddess only made her scummy since birth.

>why are Yea Forums anons edgy

Gee, it's a mystery...

>because theyre fucked in the head
How do you think people get that way in real life user?
90% of the time it's a bad childhood.
9% of the time it's a rough early adult life
1% of the time it's genuine from-birth brain defects

The is actually a standard damsel in distress having her freedom of choice taken by an evil goddess. If Naofumi was a real hero, he should rescue her from said goddess's influence instead of blaming the victim.

It's just murder. To commit treason you must either wave a hot shooting war against your nation or giving material support to someone who does that.

theres extentive research done of this whole nature vs nurture thing and most estimates are 50/50 yet in media its 99 to 1, with trauma almost always being the case

Is Itsuki crippled in the web novel? He can't recover his MP and he has trouble bathing himself.

>tell the loved ones of the 100 that died that the villain deserves 'redemption'
Tell them to forgive the villain, it's for their own good too. If they manage to do that, they will also free themselves from all hatred, otherwise their remaining life will be tainted with it whether the villain is killed or not.
>and if you gave that chance, he kills 100 more
That's why it's the hero's job to make him change his way.

>I watch anime to get away from dumb western garbage cliches like this
What are you talking about? Its way more common in anime to have this kind of stuff, western media usually has the cool protag just killing their enemies, unless you exclusively read certain capeshit like Batman and Superman.

His curse kind of turned him into a vegetable

>Tell them to forgive the villain
Nigger are you serious?

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Heroes get their title by being able to do things others can't never hope to achieve.

I'd say it was an improvement.

Bitch doesn't have enough porn, I hope that by C96 this thing will be fixed

This is just weird

>She was disinherited because she would be a horrible ruler. Melty was much more promising, so she was chosen as an heir. What's so strange about that?
The strangest thing is that the queen and Malty's personality are the same. They are both manipulative and amoral. She is basically her copy, but she somehow hates her, probably because of self-loath.

>That's why it's the hero's job to make him change his way.

You need to leave your basement you nigger.

What do you think C96 is

Good ruler manipulates everything for the sake of the realm, the bad ruler does that for their gain or amusement. I am not going to talk with you anymore, you are probably that one shitposting retard I had displeasure conversing with.

It is supposed to represent a moral event horizon, a point in which the hero is more concerned with justice, than personal vengeance. I'm not surprised Zoomers don't get it, you grew up in a shitty time period.

>>if you kill your enemies, they win
Alternatively, if a Villain plans on being a martyr to instigate more violence, death is exactly what they want.

read the manga but in the anime they made the queen less cunning by having her not trick shieldo into not killing her family

Batman doesn't kill anyone, so at least he's consistent.

But...Batman does that too?

Retarded alternate edgy versions aside, he doesn't kill anybody, minions or villains. Except Darksied that one time, and honestly, good on him. Fuck that guy.

>by having her not trick shieldo into not killing her family
She still was willing to put the "kill me instead of them shit" which she obviously knew he wouldn't do

Did they at least strip Malty and the King of their rank, titles and fortune? Was their punishment literally just being renamed, which anyone who actually talks to them regularly can easily just ignore?

You missed the point of the series if you thought that Tenma should have killed Johan

???
I could have swore she fucked everyone but the heroes.

>Did they at least strip Malty and the King of their rank, titles and fortune
Yes, they literally stated it on the episode

She fucked spear and had another personal boytoy

So you are asking for the hero to get asspull power of friendship powers so that they can just befriend all the bad guys?
Give me just one good example of a unredeemable villain being turned by a hero that isn't utterly retarded

What the fuck were they trying to go for in the trial scene?

You're supposed to sympathize with Trash for being a fool, I guess. But were you supposed to sympathize with Bitch like Naofumi was too? The way they had her wailing and had her tits flopping around you'd think it was supposed to be the revengeporn fanservice people were waiting for but all still framed in a way that's meant to evoke pity instead of complete vindication. I don't get it.

People say the source material is plagued with pretty amature writing, but the writing and directing for this adaptation seems to be making it worse for their refusal to commit to any kind of consistency.

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But they're still free to roam around and do as they please

Dragon Ball?
Yu-gi-oh?

>But were you supposed to sympathize with Bitch like Naofumi was too?
Please, tell me you are trolling.
Naofumi does not sympathize with her, he hates her with every fibre of his being. In LN queen even suggested that marrying her with him would be an instafix to most of the shit she caused and Naofumi threw a fit when he heard about that. He does not even want her as his slave.

Hope they don't beta out and not adapt this. They clearly can't show the scene but at least have it mentioned. They can't have her get off with just being called a name, people DIED.

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>you'd think it was supposed to be the revengeporn fanservice
Except that was literally it. They tried to double dip in the scene and make it fanservicey

>not keeping her as a fuck slave

DROPPED

I'm not. We get to hear his thoughts during the scene and he says he doesn't feel right about it. If he hates her with every fiber of his being he should have been enjoying it, but he wasn't he was pitying them and ultimately gave them mercy. Nothing is a worse punishment than death.

I haven't read the LN or Manga and I'm not suggesting those are as unclear or shitty as this adaptation.

An orc does in one of the novels. The question is whether they're going to bring that over into the anime or manga.

That’s because Batman doesn’t see himself as the judge. He’s breaking laws just by being Batman.

You're a lost cause desu.
Can i rape your sister and have you forgive me then?
I swear i won't do it again after i do it, like, 3 times.

They weren't unredeemable in those and the heros did barely anything to turn them

Not that user, but if they are so mad about the villain, why don't they themselves catch him and do whatever they want? If they can't or won't, they can fuck off and accept whatever punishment someone who actually stopped the guy thinks is appropriate, or they can seethe and eat their own shit if they can't do that, that's fine too.

>I'm not. We get to hear his thoughts during the scene and he says he doesn't feel right about it.
He does not feel right about making queen execute her family.
>I haven't read the LN or Manga and I'm not suggesting those are as unclear or shitty as this adaptation.
Aside from the OST, this adaptation did not deliver.
In every next iteration of Shield Hero, Naofumi becomes more and more agreeable and less of an asshole but the anime bastardized several important scenes but I still think that it was fairly obvious why Naofumi intervened during the execution.

>why don't they themselves catch him and do whatever they want?
it's something they'd most definitely do
just because fuckface mchero 'forgave' them, nothing stopping a vigilante who's brother was the 7th person the villain killed

It was scientifically proven that forgiving people who wronged you has positive effects on your health.

>Murder
>Genocide
>Not unredeemable

Does that mean i can rape your sister then? Cool!
Tell me where you live user.
What if the hero protected the villain then?

More power to them then, though they shouldn't complain if the guy who thinks it's inappropriate tries to stop them.

You're totally right user. i forgive "him" for everything he's done or would have done if he lived

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Being forgiven isn't a free out-of-jail card. If you commit a crime, you will be brought to justice. What I mean is if the villain commits crimes, the hero doesn't have the right to play judge, jury and executioner, he has to arrest the villain so that the dude can have a fair trial where he can depend his actions, then do jail time if he is proven guilty. In jail he will have time to reflect his actions and seek redemption for himself.

>protects the fucker who kills innocents
you sure fuckface hero is still the hero at this point?
that'll seem like they are in cahoots behind the scenes if he lets the happy-go-lucky murderer go while being his bff
fair enough i guess

If the police protect a convicted criminal against angry mobs who are trying to take the matter to their own hand, does it mean they are in cahoots to you?

That just makes it even worse.

animal semen
everywhere

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If Naofumi actually had common sense, he would slap a slave seal on Malty and pack her into a suit of armor. Program the slave seal to mute Bitch and instill blind obedience to him and BOOM.
INSTANT HIGH LEVEL FIRE MAGE ARTILLERY FOR HIS WAVE PARTY.

batman should kill.

Seals are not all powerful. There would be a risk of her finding a loophole. She can also break it with the help of the 3rd party, and by this point, she would have a higher level and buffs from his slavemaster shield. He would end with a fairly strong enemy only waiting for an opportunity to shank him or another party member.

Doesn't one of the characters who hates her and happens to witness the recording sent to the main characters describe the whole video of her being raped as "just pigs mating"?

That was Spear

It was Motoyasu. He reviewed the snuff porn as a recording of pigs mating because of his curse series.

You just know the furthest they'll go is have her temporarily killed off in the anime and manga.

broken spear learned the true meaning of 3dpd

The anime and manga are adapting LN, not WN. In LN her death is much different.

care to explain?

In WN she was broken and executed together with a reincarnator who plotted to destroy the world. In LN she Malty shanked by a Rino, girl who was earlier sold off to a brothel if I am not mistaken.

>she was broken and
so she basically got it but without the pig king?

So should I read the LN, WN, or Manga?

So does Spear Hero still own Malty as a slave after this?

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Spear isn't broken, he is just redpilled

LN

Nothing should interfere with my ability to truly enjoy Filo's figure, though.

In WN she was sold off to pig king and there she was raped and mutilated by this sick fuck. Her fuckbuddy the reincarnator came to her rescue and murdered the king, secretly hijacked the power (he was working on that for years at this point, he had to speed this up though) and one of his followers created a homunculus of Malty and sent it to Melromarc to make them believe she was dead. Then reincarnator lured heroes into the trap and declared war on the world. He lost and every single country was fuming and demanded revenge. That was why the gorefest happened. He was made to watch his followers and family mauled to death, and then Malty came on the stage and started beating the crap out of him. Rulers promised to spare her life if she helped in breaking the guy which she agreed on without a second thought. Still, no one wanted to honour the agreement and she was executed and her soul was devoured.

Wait for the anime. Look like they are making an original ending.

Whoa, why does she look like she's enjoying it? She should NOT be enjoying this.

This. I'm hopeful that stripping them of their status is shown to be more of a punishment than I realise though.

Oh? I stopped watching at around episode 4 so I can binge it once its done. I thought it was going to follow the LN. Are they actually going to kill the bitch and king as an original ending?

>kill the bitch and king as an original ending
King was never killed. You are probably confusing Aultcray with Pig King. Do yourself a favour and stop lurking if you are not at least watching the show.

In this case his decision seems fairly logical, because it benefits his relationship with the queen and with Melty. The only problem now is that I fully expect Bitch to stir even more shit.

I need that fucking song from the end of the episode injected into my veins. Thank you based Penkin

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Eh. I don't really mind spoiling myself since I read the WN and I'm half-way through the LN. Even if the ending is anime original.

bump

>The only problem now is that I fully expect Bitch to stir even more shit.

Chances are Bitch won't even stir any shit only just to get insulted even. In the end I don't think she won't even kill her family.

>Even if the ending is anime original.
A second season is definitely possible.

Why the fuck aren't Yea Forums threads being deleted?

OP's topic is Yea Forums related

Go look up the definition of the word.

This thread gave me illusions.

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Are you an intelligent man with a wicked sense of humor?

>I hate to admit it but it was a good goal

>hey the worst possible plague in human form
>yeah just kill her
I mean renaming her is dumb, she deserved the pig king.

>villain only became a villain because he wanted to die and his religion prevents him for commiting sudoko
>main protag doesnt even kill him

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Is there guro fanart showing how it should have ended yet?

She's stabbed from behind, dropped a from high altitude, stabbed from a high altitude, had her stopen seven star whip used against her, whipped until her face was a mess, kept getting whipped and burned with wrath flames and healed to pervent her from dying and then ultimately crushed with a flail to prevent her escape... but then the other assholes she was with managed to retrieve her soul and corpse so she'll come back later.

That's actually Rino, the female adventurer malty fucked over and sold as a sex slave back when they were starting adventuring in that extra chapter from volume 1. She was saved and then employed by the queen and the shadows along with other people malty fucked over and hates her so much, like ALMOST naofumi-tier hate. She serves as a spy to monitor Malty and ultimately stabs her in the back at a critical moment.

Trust noone, not even yourself?

That´s not why he didn´t execute her, he did it becuase he wants her to suffer.

Who cares, kill the bitch.

>You're supposed to sympathize with Trash for being a fool, I guess.
Neither him nor Bitch.

>Naofumi gets a curse weapon. It saves his ass and makes him the strongest damage dealer with no real long term effects
>Any of the other heroes get a curse weapon. they turn into vegetables or become cripplingly insane and are called idiots for using a curse weapon.

>long term effects
how much is long term for you

Bullying him might be one of the only good jokes that would open up with his inclusion.
He can keep on playing out his edgelord fantasy about how he's hated because he's a tank.Then in the last episode he finds out that Albedo, Darkness, and so on are tanks that aren't hated by anyone in the quartet.

Why would offering her life be worth anything anyway? She's the only sane ruler on the planet. Her death has no worth to him or anyone else wronged by her daughter.

Not all batmen refuse to kill

WN is way more fun

The damage done to raph is short term and only lasted as long as it did due to outside circumstances. The fuckery with his head caused by it was negligible compared to literal vegetables, long term insanity, and the stuff that happened to Ren.
The negative effects of the wrath shield are so weak that I've generally forgotten what they even are due to how little they registered. At least he managed to get off with being a somewhat functioning human being.

you don't know about sacrifice aura? Also ren's curses are a temporary thing too. But he's ren so he'll be quietly suffering for a bit of time. I am unsure if firo is still linked to the shield of wrath too after what happens in vol 12.

That user clearly meant that he wanted her to always be pregnant with triplets or more.

>Motoyasu prior to trial
>"Hey Naofumi, you saved our butts there. I guess we're buddies again, huh?"

>Motoyasu during trial
>"THAT'S RIGHT! NAOFUMI RAPED HER! THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WHY I HATE HIM... except I forgot about that ten minutes ago."

Also, wasted opportunity not to have him ask Bitch if she ever cared for him in even the slightest. Would be interesting to see her response when she can't lie.

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Doesn't Motoyasu gets mindbroken in the novel after realizing he made a fool of himself

With Batman, I always figured that he has a pathological compulsion to save whoever he can, even if that person's a complete monster. He can't stop himself. And if he does end up killing someone, he may very well break. It'd be like going against a core function. Like imagine if the Joker deliberately did something that he believed wasn't funny, that he purposefully defied his own personal standard of comedy. It's unthinkable.

You mean the negative trait that causes him to lose blood and stats that isn't' actually a negative because he can generally one shot whatever the fuck he wants, can mitigate the negative effects with potions and holy water, and it DOESN'T reduce his defense which makes it mean jack shit in a combat situation since he can just dump SP/MP/etc before he activates it if he cares about efficiency and continue tanking?
Or were you talking about how anything with any value near Ren would instantly crumble into dust?

sjws refuse to forgive.
japan forgives.
you dumb kids are acting exactly like sjws.

Sometimes killing a villain is Justice user.
Look at most Dragon Ball villains from Piccolo to beyond.
Do you think our prisons could hold any of them? Fuck no. So if they show zero capacity for remorse and for good will, why should you not kill them?
And of course there's the always pertinent example The Joker

He gets mindbroken by activating a curse weapon in his quest to to become stronger since Naofumi clearly has no negative symptoms from using a curse weapon. Naofumi then leaves him like that as it's easier to manipulate him that way (Naofumi owns Firo, ergo Spear does whatever Naofumi says in order to be allowed near Firo) because a man with godlike power capable of wiping out countries is exactly the sort of person you don't want to have anything resembling sanity.
At least it backfires super hard in the spinoff.So many Raph deaths, so little time.

>You mean the negative trait that causes him to lose blood and stats that isn't' actually a negative because he can generally one shot whatever the fuck he wants, can mitigate the negative effects with potions and holy water, and it DOESN'T reduce his defense which makes it mean jack shit in a combat situation since he can just dump SP/MP/etc before he activates it if he cares about efficiency and continue tanking?
No, that's Blood Sacrifice. What i mean is an aura-type spell that Naofumi used during the final fight in LN 9 by borrowing the power of the demon dragon residing within his shield and the core shards he got in kizuna's world. Drawing from his own life force and those affected by the spell, it boosts as much as Liberation aura does, but afterwards they're left with as much as 30% of their original stats and only curable with time, not even curse removal magic or holy water or the hotsprings help. Naofumi, Firo and Raphtalia were buffed by the spell and felt the curse after the effects wore off

As for ren, it wasn't only having anything of worth crumbling to dust. The drops he gets from killing monsters become of lesser quality, his luck decreases(affecting chance based sterngthening methods) and couldn't gain EXP for a time. Not to mention the cost for the gluttony skills was EXP and levels. Those were curable with holy water and the hotsprings, like blood sacrifice's curse was.

Oh yeah, as always Naofumi's defense wasn't affected but overall those three were barely any stronger than regular adventurers at their level with that curse.

A bad childhood does not a monster make, it can exacerbate pre-existing issues but it won't make someone normal into Hitler or whatever.

This was never brought up. The Queen was trying a hard bluff and was going to offer her life in place of her family. The only option at that point would have been for the Shield to allow everyone to live without conflict; be it had he allowed the queen to take their place, there would then be no one that could stop the other two from taking revenge, and hinder the Shield from escaping the country. However it turned more into the Shield didn't want the nightmares and weight that comes with being responsible for the death of others.

The LN handled it better. Shield suggested killing them, and the Queen said that she would, but she would prefer that he think of something less cruel and did offer her own life as well. Shield then weighed the options and felt that it would only cause more trouble for him.

Really he should have ordered that Trash has to watch him put an heir into his wife.

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Monster.txt

FUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

John Wick is totally anime, that why it so great when people that don't like anime love John Wick.

Now you understand women who are attracted to "bad boys"

Batman doesn't kill because those words are unironically true for him, the dude is insane and killing even one person will send him down a path of murder he can't come back from

Himiko Toga

This whole Malty thing is an open wound of an emotional scar that has brought the author to neurosis.

The pope was straight up a toaru villain.
>Madman from the church
>One weapon that can do a few attacks
>A little tricky, but can still be tracked
>Cathedral is no problem for IB either
I so wished Touma were there to fight that dude, cause that would've been kinda interesting at least. Instead we got 10 retards against a single pope and his mana batteries.

*right fist hammers upturned left palm*

queen is much more fit than this

Are you retarded?

A) Different board
B) Yea Forums's current mods hate Yea Forums and having to actually moderate it so they will delete anything that they consider too annoying or if it's brought to their attention.

>yfw when Kira Yamato got Freedom he stopped murdering mooks and just off'd the final boss

>Kills ONE person in the sequel
>Bites Kira in the ass in the biggest way possible

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This.

Not only does the anime shit on Naofumi's character but also the spear heros character. Fuck this piece of shit show the manga and ln are way better.

Maybe she already has a baby in her.

It was actually jarring how irredeemable she actually is. Her mother was even ready to sacrifice her life for her and Naofumi even stepped in. She literally is incapable of not being utter scum at all times. The entire trial she lied, every single time. She never explained any of it or actually tried to defend herself even while being under a lie detector. Even when she was literally about to die, she didn't even try to reason with anyone, she just yelled for people to bail her out.

She is a complete freak of nature that is allowed to exist because the universe bends to make it so, and I just cant understand it.

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>The entire trial she lied
Yeah this made little sense, even for a pathological liar. She had nothing to gain other than pain from lying. It goes even beyond the logic of a sociopath. I also thought it was odd that the people felt that death was too strong of a punishment after the Queen gave her verdict. What is the usual punishment in that country for treason, Exile? Really that probably would have been better than just stripping them of rank and prestige and changing their names, seeing as they're hated already in most of the other countries.

>biggest way possible
>he survives this, gets a better robot and wins in the end
Wow its like nothing happened

I pretend the show ends after Episode 34.
Damn Lacus and Morosawa.

Fucker should have had both them both enslaved to him so he could take them around fixing all the problems they caused. Maybe they would actually learn what its like to help people and enjoy it.

This reminds me of the part where they have that slave guy who tortures fucking children cornered, and Naofumi still didnt want to kill him. Guy only died because a Trex stepped on him. Like for fuck sakes, the guy TORTURES CHILDREN. Kill him!

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>>if you kill your enemies, they win
I didn't know shield hero was canadian

Instant death is too quick she needs to suffer for decades for the shit she did to Naofumi. I propose making her a slave to Nao who he can starve at will for days then give her rat meat to live off. She wouldnt just be lounging in a cell all day oh no she would be working the work would only serve to physically torture her and make her muscles act causing her to collapse often, the constant fatigue would rip her psyche apart.

The Rising of the Maple Hero

Can you really mindbreak someone who is already retarded though?

I guess, if he suddenly discovers that he's indeed retarded

Mounties have guns and will shoot the fuck out of you if they actually think you're a threat. They've also served as military forces in the past.f Naofumave found a moose demihuman and gored that dude to death.

Would Bitch be more effective as a villain if she was actually smart, instead of only slightly less retarded than everyone who isn't an ally of Naofumi?

A starting point would be for her to not be completely nonsensical. So much of Shield Hero requires a lot of suspension of disbelief, but Bitch is just something else entirely.

Great taste

>i struggle to imagine
don't imagine,it happens,stop giving humans a higher ground,we are dirt,and to the dirt we'll go back

Killing her might have been going too far. But she deserved far worse a punishment in the end than she got.

I don't understand,wouldn't be more painful to maintain her alive and torture her?
such things as burning limbs,healing them,burning them again,punching her,afterwards healing her of course and doing redoing that all over again till she dies of old age,her mind breaks or just dies of injuries.
Honestly this would be more fit for people who give their everything or are just plain bad apples

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in the manga Naofumi was the one to propose killing them

>spoiling without shadowtext

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That's why you fuck them into submission instead.

In the LN the queen suggests just that and convinces naofumi to let them live.

Imagine if Naofumi's request was to have malty conceive his child.

>let her have your child
>give her enough time to form a deep motherly bond with the baby
>take it away from her and raise it yourself making sure she never gets to see it

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Killing her would at least earn the anime some points. Fuck this shit show.

That would be an instant 10/10 show for me.

Could have at least chosen a better punishment than giving stupid nicknames.

That is EVIL. I love it.

Nice that she will come back. She's cute and funny to have around.

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Imagine how fucked up their kid would be.

What kind of name is Malty?

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They named their second daughter "Melty".

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For some reasons isekai princesses tend to have exceptionally dumb names
At least they're not named Pina Co Lada

Would her next have been Molty?

That might've been their dead son's name.

Punishments that would have been better.

Selling her into slavery

Do the Cersei Lannister walk of shame.

Making her his personal slave (either foot or sex)

Exile her to a desert Island where she has to work for her food or die.

Milty, if we're going alphabetically here
God, what a name for a girl
Do they ever mention what the queen's middle name is, by the way? It starts with a Q apparently

>Pina Co Lada
Well a name like "Martini" doesn't sound so bad for a girl.

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There's a literal desert of death bordering melromarc and stiltvelt but considering what happens there you'd rather not send her there.

Hey dont be dissing Pina! I quite like her!

But why settle for her when there is so much to choose? Like Whiskey-chan!

theres a girl named beefeater in that anime. Yes really,.

DEATH TO KINSLAYERS
DEATH TO MONARCHY
EL PUEBLO UNIDO JAMAS SERAN VENCIDO

So do Filo and Ralphtalia actually get class upgrades? What do they upgrade to?

Society

I wish Nolan had never made the Dark Knight.

>dumb western garbage cliches
I honestly see this cliche way more often in Japanese stuff.

Queen would've stabbed herself in exchange for their lives, so this outcome was ideal

They do. The path/upgrades get chosen for them (automatically) by filos ahoge though. Happens if filo is too close to the person who is class upping.

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Yeah well, good riddance, the whole royal family.

>TL: "cowlick"

I'm just the messenger user kun. Blame the official translation and crunchyroll for cowlick.

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we need the murder chink MCs in isekai, they'd kill that fucker, and his whole family lineage

>Bitch is alive
I dropped it at episode 7 and I'm not catching back up.

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At least pick an obscure Yea Forums reference to use for shitposting. Only newfags will believe you. Oh right....

This is where teenage Christian Yea Forumsngst gets released. So yeah. It is still a Christian board.

Forgiveness!=naivete|retardation

>Yea Forums-Yea Forumsnon-sama! Onegai!

fuck off and make your own shitposting material, faggots.

Yes, because a normal person is way to weak in many different ways to be able to do that.

This Not better though, but just more impressive in certain aspects. E.g. serial killers evade and flirt with police for decades and only get caught because most of them literally stop caring and expose themselves.

>Not better though, but just more impressive in certain aspects
That's what it means to be better.

>there will be hentai of her being ordered to fuck dogs and horses
>repeatedly impregnated and fucked in the most degrading ways in front of her father by Naofumi

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Spoon isn't any better than the fork. Pros and cons are different.

>if you kill her, you'll be just like her
>if you kill your enemies, they win

That's part of the infamous logic of Social Justice Warriors (SJW).

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>caring so much about SJW nobodies you go out of your way to promote their content
why not swallow sponges instead?

still no edits

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Most IRL serial killers are retards that make retarded mistakes instead of following George Carlin's advice on how to be a successful serial killer.

shame naofumi doesnt just punch bitches like touman

>She is a complete freak of nature that is allowed to exist because the universe bends to make it so, and I just cant understand it.
Because her mother mind broke her since childhood and made her unable to believe in human kindness.

What is the other manga?

"gamers rise up" "we live in a society" shit has nothing to do with nolan, though, it was because of the backlash against suicide squad and the joaquin joker

>George Carlin's advice on how to be a successful serial killer.
Mouth, armpits, asshole, crotch?

It's retarded bullshit that was handled much better in the Manga, LN/WN, if you think otherwise please end yourself.
Naofumi has no reason to forgive them and he doesn't, but only chooses a more lenient punishment for political reasons from his and the Queen's side. He would never have stopped their death should the Queen had done what she did in the anime (actually putting them in a guillotine).
It's trash that I saw coming from the moment he uttered the "you will be just as bad as him" against the noble that tortured Raphtalia, absolute fucking trash when in the Manga/LN/WN he encourages her killing him because it will help her heal and is what he himself wants.

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The difference is that Naofumi had people that loved him when he had his curse, thus he never allowed himself to fall completely to the curse. Should that have happened he would have become kind of a demon of destruction.
The others had no one so the curse is worse for them when they recovered their senses. Motoyasu uses the cursed spear for a long time so his punishment might be eternal, he is OP as shit though.

In the web novel she gets murder-fucked to death.

Interesting theory, but it falls short when you consider that Motoyasu has filorials that love him greatly and his deranged emotional support he got from Firo. What is this power of love crap you're trying to pull when Naofumi still thought of everyone around him you could be talking about as children?

Yes, for different purposes one is better than the other.

You are an idiot.
Motoyasu had already fallen for his curse a long time before he got his filolials.
At the point he truly unlocked the Shield of Rage he thought of his two companions but mostly about Raphtalia as his children, she is the ones that brings him back from the edge and shares the burden of his rage.
Itsuki, Ren and Motoyasu had no one when they fell to despair or lust.
Motoyasu is unique since he feeds his lust with filolials even after he stops using the Spear so he can never truly heal.
Ren and Itsuki will heal with time.

>if you kill her, you'll be just like her
>the dozen people you killed an hour ago? they're nameless drones

You had to kill villains when you are not broken

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>He gets mindbroken by activating a curse weapon in his quest to to become stronger since Naofumi clearly has no negative symptoms from using a curse weapon.

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And then Superman becomes an evil dictator. Capeshit is shit.

Really Naofumi keeping her as a personal slave would have been a step up.

If Batman and Superman ever genuinely cared about making the world a better place they would have made an exception for the joker a long time ago.

If they were feeding into his curse they wouldn't be jealous virgins annoyed at his obsession with Firo over them. He genuinely loves filorials and them as a parent which disqualifies your bullshit argument and once again shows that if Naofumi does it there's a positive spin attached, but if the other heroes do the exact same thing it's some unmitigated disaster.
Calling me an idiot doesn't make your argument any less wrong AND since the argument with me was started via me pointing out that there's a double standard to the actions of Naofumi vs anyone else you've managed to get your head so far up your ass that you ended up providing proof for my point.

Obviously, which is why I only read Punisher comics.

black and white capeshit morality. Bats is about as morally grey as DC gets, and even then that's been getting washed out over the years. For whatever reason they want to make him more like the Adam West batman in recent years, and get pissed every time it fails and blame edgy Nolan, TAS, and Burton fans.

More like Batman kept on attacking for 2 years straight until Superman got tired of his shit. Batman nearly genocided all of the amazons in one of his cockameme plans but lays all the blame on Superman when HE'S the one that summoned the gods that flooded Themyscira.

You havent read him in years if you think that. Not even DC wants him as Adam west batman.

A person whose name is written in the note will be renamed.
I the new name is not specified, it will be Bitch.

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I called you an idiot because you are an idiot, I then proceded to explain point by point why you are wrong, there is no fallacy in there as you are trying to imply.
I never said anything about the power of love, I said that because Naofumi had people at his side when he unlocked his curse series he didn't allow himself to completely be consumed by it like the other heroes do.
You ignoring the timeline of events from when Motoyasu unlocks his curse to when he has the filolials makes you an even bigger idiot.
Naofumi has canonically never been completely consumed by his curse, and there is no positive spin to his curse.

Ok user, from now on you will be known as faggot

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It only makes sense when you fully equip yourself with propaganda against another country.

It makes no sense in any other situation.

Doujin of her getting fucked in the stocks then dropping the guillotine as she climaxes when.

Does this imply that one of the past hero's introduced the Guillotine to this world as capital punishment? Did they still call it a Guillotine, or do you think they changed its name.

Well that only makes an appearance in the Anime so I will disregard it as garbage.

It is stated in the LN that past heroes introduced ideas from their world (like planes, cars and other shit)
But guillotines wasn't one of them.

I don't think guillotines were brought up by the heroes, judging by how the blade design is unlike our guillotines

I mean the hero may have designed it differently. Though at the same time if something works and fits into intelligent design then it stands to reason that similar products can be made without outside intervention, much like early humans developing clothing, cutlery, farm tools etc.

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It is known for how long have they been summoning heroes?

For longer than fitoria had existed, so for a very long time. At the time where fitoria and her sister were created, there were two holy heroes in the world(bow and shield), which increased to four later on.