User, who would win between Star Platinum and King Crimson?

This:
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Also this.
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Literally just reaction times. But Da Boss would get Da Jump on Jotaro.

It would heavily depends on how their stands interact (i.e if KC erased time and predictions takes precedence over SP time stop), who figures the other one's ability first and who is faster.
The most common assumption is that KC erases everything inside stopped time. That being the case, it would be a 50/50 - the one who got the first move at the exact moment would win.
Now, if that was DIO instead of Jotaro, then it would be an easy win for DIO, since his vampire powers would give the needed edge to ensure victory.

>black character's stand uses a gun

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Is epitaph specific enough to notice timestop? I mean Doppio and Diavolo both miss interpreted simple predictions and you assume he can predict a timestop during time that they wouldn’t be able to perceive???

Nah not buying it, timestop owns KC.

7,62mm bullets straight into your stomach are a lot less effective when you see'em coming

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It all comes down to whether Epitaph would be able to show Diavolo what happens during the paused time. If it can Diavolo wins, if not it goes to Jotaro/DIO. And the only person who can answer this is Araki himself, so this is really a pointless question to ask.

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Exactly, he'd see Jotaro standing there doing nothing. He wouldn't be able to predict the first time stop.

Anime only faggot here. Does Pucci have a time-related power like the other villains?

eventually. just read it fag

The possibility exists that he could perceive it. Pucci was able to perceive stopped time once he got Made in Heaven.

I will. Just waiting for the part 5 to finish and I'll catch up.

Jotaro wins because star platinum is literally faster, stronger and has a better ability. Don't listen to Italian cock hungry gaybois.

His stand evolves 2 times, only in the last one does he get the time power (speeding up time)

Erased time > stopped time

The only thing that can beat KC is something with a persistent damage over time buff from range that can't be evaded with skipped time, even if Epitaph sees it coming. Grateful Dead could beat KC.

This. Even assuming KC can skip timestop and that timestop isn't some pocket of time that KC can't erase, SP is too strong and quick for KC to sneak up and cleave Jotaro in half or something. And KC is nowhere near as durable as SP so I'd say diavolo will have a tough time beating Jotaro.

King Crimson's time erasure and precognition (via epitath) are purely defensive skills. Diavolo can't attack while KC time erasure is active. He mostly used KC to teleport and negate attacks. Diavolo used KC's super strength to actually kill people.

In terms of strength, KC is probably a match for Star Platinum, but SP also has super speed, super reaction times, and perfect precision. SP can react autonomously to any attack within its range like Jotaro is surrounded by a force field. Shoot Jotaro from every direction and SP will deflect the bullets by punching them. Jotaro doesn't even need time-stop to beat Diavolo, because Diavolo can't get near him.

Also not to mention that jotaro can literally fight until there's visible holes in his body, got knifed by DIO, broke teeth as hard as diamond, can take punches and kicks from the world. Also fags that claim cringe crimson is stronger than the world are just plain stupid.

Kira, Pucci, Valentine and Joseph can beat Diavolo no problem

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>Diavolo can't attack while KC time erasure is active.
He can rip off hands and impale people on fences.

It's been years since I read the manga, but my understanding was that he was erasing time to get near someone and do the dirty with King Crimson in less than a second, and then erasing the time of his escape. It's literally *teleports behind you* bullshit.

Are you stupid? As complicated KC's ability is the scenario you are referencing is just Araki's poor writing to kill of crewmates. Star platinum is stronger, faster and better.

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Depends entirely on the circumstances. If we assume a fight in the Colosseum where both are aware of each other's power, Jotaro wins. If Diavolo has the jump on Jotaro, he can probably use Epitaph to see where Jotaro will be after time-skip, and erase the time where he gets punched, meaning he'd likely win. Jotaro getting the jump on Diavolo likely means Jotaro wins.
If neither knows who the other is, that's where it gets interesting. If Jotaro is dumb enough to start the fight with time-skip > punch, he's gonna get Kakyoin'd. If he just walks over and punches Diavolo, Diavolo will be forced to time-skip just to survive. He'll try to do what he did to Bucciarati and come up behind Jotaro, but Jotaro's time stop will allow him to escape, resetting the fight into a situation where both knows the other power (which ends in Jotaro winning).

In short, unless Jotaro gets jumped, or Jotaro acts a retard, he's going to win the fight. Thank you for listening to my TED talk

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jesus christ I'm retarded time-stop not time-skip

This is all fucking wrong. Diavolo tries to skip time, gets ready to donut jotaro, who goes ONAJI TAIPU NO STANDO, skips the moment where he'd get donuted by KC, then sneaks up behind diavolo and anally devastates him with star platinum's massive purple cock. Then due to his torn asshole diavolo dies of septic shock. Jotaro wins 10/10.

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Erasing Star Platinum's punches doesn't do shit if he just keeps rapid-fire punching. Diavolo is fucked if he's still in range to get punched after King Crimson stops erasing time. Star Platinum's perfect accuracy and speed are enough for him to keep up with time manipulating stands, never-mind the fact that he can stop time himself. The only way I can see Diavolo killing Jotaro is if his first move is whipping out a gun and erasing its travel distance until it's at the walls of Jotaro's heart. Even then, it's possible Jotaro instinctively stops time as soon as King Crimson deactivates, and then has Star Platinum pluck the stationary bullet out of his chest. Star Platinum is faster than bullets, so it's possible that without the need of stopping time Star Platinum could materialize inside Jotaro and punch the bullet regardless of how close it is to his heart.

If King Crimson activates time erasure in the split second before Jotaro finishes activating The World, Jotaro is screwed - his conscious awareness within the world of frozen time is completely shut down and he just does nothing because he has lost awareness of what he is doing, meaning even after the moment he freezes time, for the rest of the duration of Time Erasure, Jotaro is just inertly standing still and unaware of what's happening.

Unless Star Platinum can maintain awareness during time erasure..

Epitaph can’t percieve stopped time, though. It only predicts the future, all epitaph would show is Diavolo getting his ass kicked in .1 second later with no indication as to who attacked him and just assume that star platinum was just super fast

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Probably Jotaro would win, because he doesn't always initiate with time stop, so after KC skips time Jotaro would then use his stop.
Meanwhile DIO uses time stop as a starting move so KC could skip over that first.
So SP>KC>Za Warudo

We don't know how their powers would interact. If, from Diavolo's perspective, the entirety of stopped time happens in an instant, then he can always use Epitaph to see the instant Jotaro suddenly teleports and erase the entirety of the stopped time with one second worth of timeskip. If Diavolo sees the world frozen and only Jotaro moving, then both have to calculate around the other's power. I think it would be like a cowboy movie, first to shoot wins.

You know part 6 takes place in America because even stands have guns

Either he sees Jotaro moving and everything else frozen, or he sees Jotaro suddenly teleporting and things, mostly his face, being broken. In the second case, I bet that Jotaro could bullshit a way of tricking him into not noticing the time stop by starting and finishing it in exactly the same place and position.

If he has KC activated, he can get away from SP even as he keeps punching the empty air, and would have an advantage of 10 seconds of not being chased by it.

Wouldn't he just see himself get BTFO, not be able to perceive why and then assume that time is dangerous enough that it should be erased, whether he understands it or not?

If regular Gold Experience managed to land a hit on King Crimson, he could have maybe beat him by making his brain go faster and fuck up his predictions. Like, he sees himself killing them, he goes and does it, and then he realizes that his brain went superfast and he never really did anything.

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Diavolo just sees Jotaro teleporting and him suddenly on the ground. He then erases that.

KC owns timestop

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Jotaros autism makes his attack runs actually very long when he connects. If jotaro got in an attack he would beat diavolo into a pulp for so long that diavolo would likely just think its a close range beater stand with teleportation. Stopped time would appear to be instantanious so its likely he would think jotaro had a teleportation stand.

King Crimson wins based on stats alone. We've had discussions of DIO vs Diavolo before and DIO has more shit going for him against Diavolo due to his vampiric abilities. The only reason DIO lost against Jotaro is because he underestimated Jotaro thinking he didn't have timestop at the time (no pun intended).

diavolo wins just because king crimson counters time stop really hard

Epitaph predicts the time stop, and even though he'll perceive it as Jotaro teleporting and then spamming his ora-oras, he can just move out of the way that he's fated to get fucked at and moves to an optimal position to donut Jotaro.

Jotaro should win because Diavolo's ability allows him to see 10 seconds into the future, but Jotaro can stop time, so it would appear in Diavolo's epitaph as though Jotaro teleported. However, Jotaro from part 4 onwards is weak as hell and could only stop time for like 2 seconds, plus he would be absolutely outclassed by Diavolo strength wise. Jotaro loses 99/100 times.

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>Jotaro should win
>Jotaro loses 99/100 times

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Epitaph only predicts what would happen. All he'll see is himself dead. There would be no way of him knowing that time stopped.

>Jotaro uses timestop and kills him
>Diavolo either foresees/gets killed/reverses time
>he hides behind Jotaro to prevent it
>he just dies again because timestop gives no fucks where you are going, you're gonna stay in place

Star Platinum if King Crimson erases time first, King Crimson if Star Platinum stops time first

>Epitaph's eyes aren't bright ANGERY as well
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KC doesn't attack during timeskips. Unless he's strong enough to take someone head on, in which case he skips time and lets events play out as they would.

Could he speed up the time KC erases, giving him nothing to react to?

>you're gonna stay in place
What? Diavolo's abilities takes him out of time/space on a cosmic scale where's it's literally depicted as him taking himself out of the world and placing him back in an optimal position as the world comes back together. Jotaro initiates time stop as he's fated to do so but it doesn't affect Diavolo and allows him to at least move away to dodge Jotaro's attack.

Jotaro could FUCK pussy in one hit, but the nigger was more intelligent just one time and threw that knifes to Jolyne, FUCK