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reminder that this is canon
>wake up
>see this
What do?
>Broly and Moro participate in the ToP instead of Tien and Krillin.
What happens?
ORE WA, SUUPA BEJITA
Alright so how do we let the official sources know that Chadren is one of the most acclaimed and like characters nowadays? They defenitely will benefit from bringin him back, but I doubt they actually know this.
I mean where do they get their info and data of what people like? Fucking nip polls? We know very well how shit the nips' taste is. Voting random shit like Roshi or Turles and who the fuck knows what else.
A fine proof that they have no fucking clue what people actually like is that shitty forced green waifu getting I don't know what. Tells you how they listen to some loud nip waifushitting minority rather than actual people. Jiren has billions of views racked up on Youtube.
Do we let them know in their official site? Their official Facebook page, Twitter?
>every gokufag's fantasy
Moro does the same thing as Frieza, and Broly does the same thing as Kale, I guess. They'd both probably come in handy in the brawl with Jiren and Toppo.
Moro would probably solo everyone except the U3 robots since robots have no life energy
I feel like the writers fucked up hard with making Chadren so strong. It required a ridiculous Angel-level powerup to match him, which they had to write out of the story immediately. But the next opponent can't be a fucking joke either, so they make Broly stronger than SSB and in comes fusion to save the day. Next opponent, what now? They can't use UI again, they can't rely on fusion, so instead they come up with an opponent who is dangerous not because of powerlevels but because of magic (admittedly a good idea and a breath of fresh air); but you can see the problem still exists. An SSB level opponent would be boring and pathetic, yet they've run out of tools to handle antagonists that are stronger than SSB.
One way to handle it might be to use more teams of equally powerful villains, with one bad guy leading them. I don't mean something like the Bojack movie, where the weaker minions all get blitzed by the hero, I mean Goku gets one bad guy to fight, Vegeta gets one, etc.
It'd make it harder to characterize each villain, but it'd change things up.
It's good but DB will always confirm to the "our hero son tardku saves the day" format. Side characters only exist for jobbing. Even Vegeta's shining moments only started happening in Super because he's literally the most popular character
Kinda why Zamasu's arc was nice at some point, it had a pair of enemies to fight. Moro having some sort of champion would be nice.
Literally everyone (even the other U7 guys) drop their power level to a 0.00001% of their max and Molo solos everyone and wish something that fucks up the multiverse forever
UNLESS Boo replaces Freeza then he fights Molo (despite being part of the same team) because he's the only one unaffected
That really does irk me. Part of the fun of the Namek saga that everyone was useful. Vegeta got a nice killstreak, Gohan and Krillin swindled their way into getting the Dragon Balls, and Piccolo spearheaded the fight with Frieza until Goku showed.
Now the minor characters can't even get any wins against minor villains.
It also adds more people for the villain to play off of. Future Zamasu's arrogance and snobbishness made a nice contrast to the increasingly vulgar and unhinged Goku Black. It really helped to show that Zamasu was becoming just as petty and crass as the mortals he despised.
In DB EVERYTHING has life energy, remember the Genkidama takes energy even from the soil and starts, everything that exists has life energy to some degree, I bet Moro could manipulate the robots like he manipulates planets
Cue in Basedren
Black's face is really fucking wide
That reminds me, in the ToP we see the 17 and 18 lending energy to Goku's Spirit Bomb in the first fight with Jiren. In DBZ, we saw 17 lend some energy to the Spirit Bomb in the fight with Buu. If their energy is compatible enough to work with the Spirit Bomb, couldn't they have used their infinite energy to freely replenish the other fighters' stamina throughout the whole ToP?
Enter BEAUTIFULkns
Because their are no minor villains anymore. The closest and best time to shine was ToP. Everything else was just 1-2 bad guys for most of the arc. And with Goku being able to teleport him and Vegeta on top of the threat anywhere in the universe, it takes the drama out of it. We should have an arc going on during Moro with like another universe invading Earth for revenge in ToP.
infinite stamina isn't infinite ki
Or just have Moro take control of the realm of demons or some bullshit like that. Would be nice to see Dabra-like characters again.
>Not relevant in the main canon
>Not even relevant in Heroes when even the doc and 17 are
Gohanbros, what do we do?
wait until dragon ball online becomes canon with the anime and he finally writes the book about ki control that helps humanity to grow stronger
But if they can lend energy for the Spirit Bomb, can't they lend it to fighters like Goku did for Frieza on Namek, or Frieza did for Goku after the first Jiren fight?
>dragon ball online
No.
Why DBGT is better than DBS?
So, what is Moro's second wish?
it isn't
>hey let's bring back the two most memorable villains in the entire series only to do a silly joke so funne
based
To have 1% of INFINITEren's power
BASED onlinechad
>Because their are no minor villains anymore.
Which is weird to me. The Ginyu Force was very well-received, but we've never gotten anything like them since. It's all just shitters like Pui Pui and Sorbet.
The only secondary villain who's seemed even remotely threatening lately was Toppo, and he had to ascend to GoDhood to become so.
The princess of saiyans.
>blue-skinned thot
CHECKEDren
all of dragon ball is worse than super though.
I miss Kid Gohan. He was a Chad.
Actually kill yourself.
Based GT
I think the fans liked so much the planetary level threats like Freeza and Cell that having underlings would feel like a waste of time
This. Super is the best thing that happened to the series
>t.gokufag
>more popular than Gogeta
based
You'd better be talking about the manga, and even that's a stretch.
No you toyoshit
I mis him too, he is a total letdown nowaydays.
If at least the Dragon Ball room had been created sooner we wouldn't have needed to endure shit like pic related. At least the franchise seems like it's finally back on track now
Yeah, but there could be multiple planetary threats working together or something.
There's not enough Piccolo in him.
That would be nice, but unfortunately Toriyama has proven over and over he's awful at handling a cast of characters too large so most of them always turn into fodder
Toei isn't dumb enough to announce a july anime one month before are they?
No. Once we get a bit into June it'll be possible to just look at TV listings that stretch into July and see something's there or not (it's how we got 4-5 incoming Super episode titles at once back when it was still airing). When that happens it'll be too late for a proper "announcement".
>G-GOAT
>Buu-sama................
Geekdom wouldn't lie about this, trust me. We're getting it in July, and if not, we're getting it announced in July if the sources screwed up.
They are. I don't think the anime is coming in July though, it might be announced then at SDCC.
This, just trust me bro. July, Shintani designs.
That easy goalpost move. No repercussions.
I just want it not announced at all in July, though that seems unlikely with the HUGE event going on... what a fucking prediction/goalpost move.
The infinity energy they have is basically an artificial copy of ki, that's different to life energy/genki
>UI
>big powerlevel
Are you retarded?
>Moro
>needing power level
Yep, you are
>jobmasu being remotely comparable to Jiren or SSB fusions
Jesus christ
Enter CHADku
Are you autistic?
UI is a powerup
NEXT
>oh shitro doesn't need powerlevel because he has magic tricks
Cope
NEXT
Zamasu as strong as a SSB fusion
NEXT
Only power levels chads will be accepted here, sorry magical goat
This meme doesn't work with the goat because his hole point is being dangerous through means other than powerlevels
Calling him gimmick goat DOES work, however.
After his humiliation with Buu he wishes he was a power level chad. Must hate his entire existence and wishes to go back to MLP
>the jobrenfag again
Of course
Still salty juanren has no defense against Moro and can't even overpower a tired Goku using a movement technique?
>MLP
wat
Jobro won't have a chance against Jobren even with his frail Buu level body. He just won't be allowed the time to use his cheap tricks
Shitro was confirmed literally SS2 maybe SS3 tier because "buu got stronger". Sad
Tacotaro traced My Little Pony to create him
Actual credible sources are saying the anime is definitely in production and should be announced soon, it's not just the memetubers parroting that shit.
This. Reminder that Hit was full of tricks and were harder to counter than "muh energy absorb", ask him how it went.
>one shots jobren and shitly
It isn't, it's slightly worse.
>Gets ragdolled by Boros
>B-Buu-sama, yamete!
Based, only HOLYku and Beerus can beat gag characters
Damn he literally got sodomized. Goatfags on suicide watch
OH NO.
bitchku never did shit
post proof so the jannies can ban you from this board
>jobs to JC staff
>thinking he can play me
Silence
He already figured it out with Arale, you have to fight gag characters with gag gimmicks.
Core de Owari Da
non canon self parody. stop clinging to this garbage.
>non-canon self parody
>LORDku still wins
>Why DBGT is better than DBS?
Dragon ball GT is a great show and so is DBS,.
They both have their flaws, although GT does get a lot of hate, when in fact there are good things about it. Like the soundtrack and the characters, that I think could be used in DBS, like Pan for example, she would make a great replacement main character for future DBS.
However I guess that's up for speculation at the moment( or never), and we'll just have to wait and see how things pan out.
>It isn't, it's slightly worse.
Really?
I assumed GT and DBS have their pros and cons.
>In order to ascend the super saiyan, a saiyan has to be ready
>Vegeta and Goku surpassed their limits within a year of training when Cell arrived, but they couldn't do the same when preparing for the androids because "they weren't ready"
>When Goku is cured from his illness he mentions how he and Vegeta figured out how to ascend the regular saiyan form
>It takes a certain mental and physical level to ascend past a super saiyan
Why couldn't they continue this kind of mysticism in super? Instead we get "hold your hands in a circle" god form
>ascend
>dub terminology
Stopped reading
Yeah, he figured it out alright.
>non canon
It's canon, fool.
Holding hands in a circle is pretty mystical, but I get what you're saying. It's all just powerlevel wanking and asspulls, now. I miss the fantasy aspects of DB, and the more down-to-Earth adventures. Now it's all just assholes from outer space.
>Show me that Jiren giving you trouble underlings
He said, before jobbing to a furry.
Imagine being like this
>Vegeta is such a fighting genius he figures out how to beat unbeatable characters
Not even tarku can beat her, what do you want? Nobody in db can get that silly except for maybe Buu
>I assumed GT and DBS have their pros and cons
What are the pros?
>Oh that jobber universe? I'm sure you can handle them on your own. Leave me the big fish
> Jobhan
Arale wins again.
Keep crying, you got rightfully disregarded.
He said, before jobbing to another furry.
Wrong
Too bad he didnt figure Chadren out
Remember how it took Goku 7 years of training to reach super saiyan 3? Reaching the next level in terms of strength is extremely rushed in super. we pretty much get ssb almost instantly after the previous arc, instead of a build up, like we had with regular super saiyan Goku during namek. All of the namek saga, Frieza was dominating and all seemed hopeless, when Goku finally transformed to the warrior Vegeta was talking about non stop during this arc.
Imagine being so much of a weeb that you cry about translated semantics
Done
Dyspo was the biggest threat in the entire tournament, SMARThan realized this and hence what happened.
It's a lot more than that and you know it. "ascended form" being one
Post yfw
SSB didn't bother me, since I think it's basically just stacking SS on top of SSG. But SSB + KK, SSBE, SS Rose, and especially SS Rage needed way more buildup.
The only transformation that didn't come immediately was UI, and even then Goku got to use it and test it out a few times for no reason before fully mastering it.
I'll laugh if he figures out Moro's gimmick.
Dyspo and Nigrisshi are the biggest proofs of how DBS writers had no interaction whatsoever
>Dyspo
>U11 third most powerful fighter
>jobs to a giant plant in his debut episode
>Nigrisshi
>claimed to be the U3 strongest modified warrior
>jobs to Cabba
>What are the pros?
Well...GT has nice animation and a comfy feel to it
Bad point is, it ended.
DBS has modern animation and is able to support the possibility of a new main character.
Bad point is, Cell still hasn't returned.
Oh fuck, I forgot all about Nigrisshi. Goddamn, that's so lame. DBS was shittier than I remembered.
>jobs to Poperu
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
>frail Buu level body
Not as frail as Jobren after being affected by the spell
>N-NO JOBREN WOULDN'T ALLOW MORO TO USE HIS POWER
Moro can use it even from a distant planet, Jiren would just cry and wonder what happened to his power before die by Moro's hands
>humiliates SS2 Vegeta not only without magic but also without hands
>"S-SUPER SAIYAN 2 TIER"
Based jobrentard proving he knows nothing about the character he's talking about. Also see above, even a SS2 tier guy (aka someone weaker than Moro) could beat Jiren after Moro uses his magic
Nice paint edit cuck
Fellow Jirenbrothers, I think my dog is ready to join the Pride Troopers. He is worthy of this as he joins me in meditation every morning and during our daily walks he gets looks from everyone. He is much more focused, became more confident and has become the envy of the block. All those other weakling brolydogs do nothing but stop in their tracks in fear at the sheer aura coming from my dog and their owners do not know why their dog stopped and shit in the sidewalk. I would like to get him a Pride Troopers kennel to reflect on his recent ascend into jirenhood. I saw another jirenchad had one for his dog. Let me know where I can buy one.
Jiren's power is too huge for him it would take him at least a day to drain him. And with only a fraction of his power he can decimate the worthless magical goat
The Grand Priest said the ToP arena mimics the natural gravity of the fighter's home planet, so my headcanon is that Dyspo was fighting that plant in a planet with the gravity much stronger than he was used to. Nigrisshi still is pure bullshit tho
You can get them online, fellow JirenBro. My dog looks so cute in his Pride Trooper uniform while I fuck him.
>Brolydegenerates spam gay porn, pedo porn, AND fantasize about bestiality
Amazing how simply liking Shitly can turn you into such a twisted monstrosity.
>SHITren acclaimed
OH NO NO NO NO NOOO NOOOOO JOBRENBROS...
OH NO NO NO NO JOBRENBROS WHAT IS THIS
>UI big power level
Oh man...i-it's over Jirenbros...w-we should kill ourselves...
Jiren is the strongest and most powerful protagonist ever conceived.
And NO transformations, just pure raw power.
>Well...GT has nice animation and a comfy feel to it
GT had bad character design and bad animation, it also had bad music that felt like it came from a low budget, british animation.
>Bad point is, it ended
That's not a con.
>DBS has modern animation
Animation peaked in the 90's, I'm not saying that animation nowadays is bad but you can't compare digital colouring with hand painted cels, besides DBS animation is really, really bad.
>and is able to support the possibility of a new main character
Goku is the main character and vegeta is his companion now, the only thing close to a new main character is when the story focus on a specific character, like Buu and mirai Trunks.
>Bad point is, Cell still hasn't returned.
That's not a bad point, bringing back old dead characters is a bad move, just look at what they did to Freeza, just leave Cell alone.
I'm going to choke on my bf's dick today to cope as a CHADrenfag
*ahem*
>just look at what they did to Freeza
What? Freeza moments where the best part of the ToP by far
S-SHITrenbros...w-what is the meaning of this...
BASED CHADRrenbro
>having a bf
You're lucky, Jirenbro. I turned jailhouse gay just like you a long time ago, but all the guys were turned off by my fat rolls. It's hard being 500 lbs.
>n-no I'ts impossible... j-jobren is too strong to be drained I swear...
Epic headcanon, now leave. Pic related (with or without Buu) is the only one that can defeat Moro
>best part of the ToP
>ToP
>best part
The tournament of power was fucking awful.
Your lucky i'm over 600
Go on a diet.
Is this a good list?
Yeh, but Frieza was the best part. It was fun to see him running around being an ass.
Based jirenbro
No. Leave D empty and put him even below
>GT had bad character design and bad animation,
Agreed, it's not quite perfect.
>it also had bad music that felt like it came from a low budget, british animation.
But that's not true.
>That's not a con.
For you perhaps.
>Animation peaked in the 90's, I'm not saying that animation nowadays is bad but you can't compare digital colouring with hand painted cels, besides DBS animation is really, really bad.
Agreed and reminder, that GT was made in the 90s
>Goku is the main character and vegeta is his companion now, the only thing close to a new main character is when the story focus on a specific character, like Buu and mirai Trunks.
I think Pan is better suited to the role of main character.
>That's not a bad point, bringing back old dead characters is a bad move, just look at what they did to Freeza, just leave Cell alone.
Agreed and what was I thinking.
>eats a fucking planet
>now is able to hurl rocks at people
Holy fuck what a shitty character
Well, for me it wasn't fun, but good for you I guess.
no but this is
What even was SS Rage?
Switch SSBE with SS Rage. There's at least SOME explanation for SSBE, even if it's an asspull. SS Rage made no goddamn sense.
What the fuck are you even saying, he already had telekinesis before
Much better.
It's what happens when Toei wants a new form to make more figures and Dokkan cards but it's too lazy to come with any explanation whatsoever
And what did he gain by eating the planet? As stated to be his ultimate form in last chapter? Having bigger telekinesis? KEKKIMUS
>Kinda like SS Rage's design (aside from the aura)
>"Hopefully Toyo will explain it"
>get healing powers in that version
T-thanks
Isnt SSBE just a god/blue version of Ascended Super Saiyan (SS-1 grade 2)?
>exactly proving my point
Based sub-par user
>And what did he gain by eating the planet?
You would know if you actually read the manga, juan, he gains more power and infinite youth, that's how he went from being a random goat-like alien to being strong enough to nuke solar systems without sweat
Kefla vs android 21
>strong enough to nuke solar systems without sweat
You mean Cell tier? HAHAHA
Yes, that's why it's trash
>ascended
discarded
SSBE is far more forgettable and is just SSB but slightly flashier and a darker (but cooler) hair color. SSBE had no other purpose than to sell merchandise. They could've just given him Ultra Instinct. Design wise, SS Rage was really good. I really liked how it was just SS Grade 2 Trunks but with blue aura and that Cloud Strife Spirit Bomb Sword is clean as fuck.
>But that's not true.
Oh yes it is, the background didn't even sound like it was Japanese, it sounded like it was 70's sad clowns tv show.
They should have got Shunsuke Kikuchi, it would have made GT bearable.
>Agreed and reminder, that GT was made in the 90s
YES, I was thinking about that, how were they able to make such a bad anime of DB in the 90's, it's like they went out their way just worst product imaginable.
>I think Pan is better suited to the role of main character.
Why, what about Goku, Goku is loved around the world by people of all ages, you can't discard Goku just like that and then there's Gohan, Goten and Trunks...
Yes? That's the entire point you braindead retard, he went from probably weaker than a saibaman to stronger than SS2s, if you think draining planets is useless you are objectively wrong, juanrenfag.
And that's just more raw power, something he never needs unless fighting the Grand Kaioshin because everyone else he fights isn't even Namek Freeza tier thanks to his power.
Imagine boasting your new villain being Cell tier on a post ToP setting
HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA
Kefla stomps but could get absorbed
What's it like being acclaimed Jirenbros?
Why is Pan so much more powerful than Vegetas family?
Yeah, but SS Rage happens for literally no reason. SSBE at least has some precedent (Vegeta trying to gain UI, his desire to surpass Goku) and a decent idea behind it (Vegeta finding his own path to power), even if the execution sucked shit.
SS Rage is the asspull of the century, and could've easily been replaced by Vegeta and Goku gathering the others and performing the ritual to give Future Trunks SSG (and thus, SSB).
>Design wise, SS Rage was really good. I really liked how it was just SS Grade 2 Trunks but with blue aura
I thought that was uncreative as crap, like a DeviantART-tier idea.
reminder that SSBE is equal to blue kaioken
Ssb was extremely rushed as well imo. We basically get one glimpse at it when Goku and Vegeta are training but thats pretty much it.
Yeah, so all Goku needs to do is go x3
Yep, ol' Veggie's back on par with Goku again, until Goku gets UI back.
Objectively correct taste
tiermaker.com
x20
It doesn't help that it's completely unexplained too. SS2, mixed with Ascended, mixed with... God aura?
yeah i thought that was implied
Another episode would've definitely helped. Showing Goku and Vegeta mastering God Ki to the extent that they could pull off SSB would've been nice, though it would've spoiled Vegeta's SSB reveal in the RoF arc.
I think its just a one time short power boost when, as the name implies, a saiyan gets extremely angry. Similiar to how Vegeta surpasses Goku when fighting Beerus at the very beginning of Super.
ss2 kefla >> ss1 kefla = SSBE vegeta > GoD toppo
I'm pretty sure that it was extremely obvious that Vegeta obtained ssb during the RoF arc as well, seeing how he didn't go "N-NANI" when Goku went blue. Then again super was horrible at building tension, only arc that really build it was zamasu arc and the final episodes of super.
>Fasha, regular Ribrianne, and Sorrel in No Tier
>Berserk Kale, Kamin, Chi Chi, and Fat Ribrianne not in No Tier
Shit fucking list, mate.
That's true, RoF sucked anyhow. Besides, one episode of learning SSB means one less episode of the shitty RoF arc.
GT was the equivalent of the Game of Thrones ending of that era
>I'm gonna make a product that nobody wanted just because I can
Nostalgiafags that think DB should go back to the classic roots are the most cancer part of the fandom, they were nothing but a vocal minority but Toei listened to them and it backfired so hard they had to make the Baby arc to save the ratings. Yes, the Baby arc wasn't even in the original plans when GT started being made, it only happened because the grand tour arc was so panned Toei felt obligated to do something more in the fashion of Z than Classic DB.
>Juanrefag is too stupid to undertand SS3 tier (which is stronger than Cell btw) is insanely strong when all your enemies are instantly nerfed to sub SS tier
Sad.
>Oh yes it is, the background didn't even sound like it was Japanese, it sounded like it was 70's sad clowns tv show.
They should have got Shunsuke Kikuchi, it would have made GT bearable.
You must be referring to the american version.
If so, then I agree, it is horrible.
>YES, I was thinking about that, how were they able to make such a bad anime of DB in the 90's, it's like they went out their way just worst product imaginable.
Stop being mean, user.
>Why, what about Goku, Goku is loved around the world by people of all ages, you can't discard Goku just like that and then there's Gohan, Goten and Trunks...
...Because Pan is a committed fighter and is serious about it.
>Why is Pan so much more powerful than Vegetas family?
Pan is destined to be powerful.
Vegeta super saiyan theme > Mystic Gohan theme > Cell theme > Super saiyan 3 theme > Piccolo theme
>Nostalgiafags that think DB should go back to the classic roots are the most cancer part of the fandom,
You really can't go back, but I wouldn't mind not everything being in space.
Nope.
>mystic gohan
who the fuck even came up with this retarded name?
>he thinks there's a difference between x10 and x20
there is? Goku fully mastered the Kaio-ken until the x10, x20 puts a heavy strain on his body
That's what I meant, thank you. Unexplained. Trunks just "levels up" and gets SS Rage for no reason.
>Not wanting to be dominated by Kale and get to hold on to Ribrianne's rolls like your life depends on it as you plow her while sucking on her giant tits
Holy shit man, that's kinda gay.
he was on par with goku "breaking his limit". cope.
>instantly nerfed to sub SS tier
Literal headcanon
>le heavy strain meme
>just kidding bro i recovery stamina by fighting haha
Kill yourself
Thers a reason he activates it on short bursts. Except when fighting Chadren, the writing goes to the shitter in order to make them keep up with the man.
Goku should have been fucking dead just from self damage by half the tournament
>juanrenfag still pretending he knows what he's talking about
Goku was so drained he didn't even have energy to teleport, something he usually does like nothing without transforming
people drained by Moro < post-Yardrat BASE Goku
could buu absorb vados?
>Not wanting to be dominated by Kale
Controlled LSSJ Kale, yes. Berserk Kale, no. The latter crosses the line from "musclegirl" to "tranny".
>Fat Ribrianne
Not a chubby-chaser, sorry.
Beerus is going to die
Headcanon that Shitro absorbs energy instantly
SS Kefla = Spirit Bomb >> SSBKKx20/SSBE/Job Toppo
>You must be referring to the american version.
>If so, then I agree, it is horrible.
I've never watched the american version.
>Stop being mean, user.
Well, GT was mean to me first.
>...Because Pan is a committed fighter and is serious about it
You can't talk about Pan like that, you can't talk for her, she's a newborn baby, you're not her father or mother or her creator, how do you know that she wants to be fighter, what if she wants to be a teacher or a ballerina like her father.
Only if she lets her guard down. I can see Buu absorbing Whis since he let his guard down before
>a ballerina like her father.
Wow, Adult Gohan really IS lame.
oh damn how would she react?
Nope and also cope.
If Goku's pitiful jaws did this imagine GRIPren. Would crush that faggot hand
I liked Moro better before he got muscular.