And that was the Rising of the Shield Hero(tm)

Watched the first few episodes, am I missing anything important?

>it's a fucking incel festival
Why? Just because Malty is female?
>i'm no sjw
Nobody calls themselves SJW. The term is considered negative and is too vague and broad to actually designate a group or opinion. Only dumbass trolls like you would use it in the way you did.

>All this faggotry
Yea Forums is truly dead, huh?

Fucking this
/Thread

Normalfags have been infecting Yea Forums for a long time.

oh look it's the troll-boogeyman because they don't agree with you
i bet your next favorite words are "strawman" and "goalpost moving"

>I'm no sjw
Sure

He rose as the shield hero

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If this had happened to a male character, you wouldn't care.

In fact, shit like this regularly happens to male characters in anime.

>i'm no sjw

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>Yea Forums
>Agreeing on anything
You'd have a better chance of isekai being good

>Not a single person understanding that the OP was setting up for "well Ellie, looks like we really are the Last of Us" style jokes
Whoa nelly

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Spirited Away is good, no?

I should have specified the genre isekai, not AN isekai

The funny this, that is literally the only good example I can think of.

>sjw game
>Yea Forums jokes
Go away shitter

My favorite part about the Last of Us franchise is that the "bandits" are all dressed like hipsters.

What is Escaflowne, what is 12 Kingdoms

Dumb raccoon likes Naofumi's death banter.

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moralfags? in my Yea Forums?

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"Meh" is your answer. Those are examples that can be disputed, whereas, Spirited Away is an indisputable classique.
It would be like trying to pretend like Cowboy Bebop isn't the greatest cyberpunk anime of all time.

>I'm not a...
Stopped reading there

>not asking to have sex with the queen
GAY

>The last of us
Kill yourself

I think its more like she instantly knew he was plotting something to spare there life's.
She knows him the best.
She is his dotheru after-all.

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> i'm no sjw
only sjw use the word "incel"

I want to fuck Malty so much!
Also this

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I'm a moralfag and all I really care about is how wasted Malty's design is.

This show really fucking sucks the only thing that kept people's attention lolicons and fuck SJWs

i can't believe how Yea Forums fooled me into watching this piece of boring shit.

>i'm no sjw
Sure

> Yea Forums fooled me into watching this piece of boring shit
Can't wait to see you on Arifureta threads also complaining about how "Yea Forums" tricked you once again, those damn anonymous devils

That makes you a stupid piece of shit, not only for being so easily influenced but for watching an anime adaptation without knowing a thing about the source material. Dumb bitch.

Now somebody make some fucking stitches of the Queen and all the panning shots of her.

Dude you fuck up

>Memeboy Memebop
>good
Why is it always Toonami shitters that cry about isekai?

Imagine actually being this clinically insane.

see you next week

It made my BDSM fetish happy, so yes, it was.

Especially when she was shocked in pain. That is the hottest shit.

You're a sick individual, user-san.

Hot.

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I don't understand this brand.

Is this to keep semen from sticking to her during a Paizuri? Usually those brands go on the abdomen to prevent pregnancy.

You're trying to think about Shield Hero. Stop it

It's to give you a target to aim for after you're done face-fucking her. Keep up.

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They turned the cringe up compared to the manga at least. Manga didn't give off quite the incel vibes either. It was just one bullshit ordeal after another.

>that feel when ex had a tramp stamp on her backside with a picture of her kid brother in the middle.
>That feel when pulling out and aiming at said tramp stamp.
>that face when not sure if this is some sort of sibling revenge plot you are a part of.

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Not at all, it's the typical isekai with a good premise that gets wasted after the first few episodes and ends devolving in the same shitty trends of the genre

You've just described 90% of all isekai. The remaining 10% have shitty premises.

No.

There was a really cool idea where it turns out all the Heroes were pulled from different versions of alternate History Japan...but none of that idea was expanded upon at all.

>A woman being punished for her heinous crimes, that got her own family's subjects killed is somehow unjust and incel.
Fuck off, retard. Just because she's a woman doesn't make her exempt. Why aren't you just as mad about how they treated the king? Oh wait, he's a man, so that isn't within your double standards to decry that. Fucking hypocritical faggot.

I love it when they waste perfectly serviceable plot!

>in the LN, Naofumi demands execution for both Bitch and Trash without even thinking twice
>only gets talked out of it by the Queen and her willingness to allow herself to be killed instead
>in the anime, the Queen orders the execution and Naofumi comes to their rescue
>and he's the one to suggest the comparatively lighter sentence of public humiliation (by changing their names) at that
What is this bullshit? Why are they trying so hard to make it seem like Naofumi is 100% in the right and a good person?

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I've enjoyed it. It's a shame so many SJWs shitposted constantly but it was good enough that they watched 21 episodes of it so it's not surprising.

Most people dropped this shit before the second half

And yet here you are.

Laughing at retards like you watching it?

It's bog standard to enter threads for shows you don't watch anymore and then complain about them.

So you're still posting in threads about a show you dropped three months ago? That says more about you.

>Most people dropped this shit before the second half
Man i wish that were true.
The threads would be half decent like in the old wn days.

You sure showed them

I guess the animators and/or directors finally realized how awful of a person they were making when they read up to that part.

They'd still be bad just on virtue of it getting an adaptation. Adaptations are the death sentence of anything resembling meaningful or worthwhile discussion. I can't wait for it to be over and Shield Hero to be slowly integrated back into the regular isekai threads.

>if you kill your enemies, they win
Retard.

This is better, in the anime she has no motive to do everything she has done to naofumi from the first episode, actually all of the character in this series has no motivation to what they have done, this is the most soulless series this season

Threads have been dead for weeks

Not really.
Thanks

Actually user, some people have ways of returning back from the dead when killed there. They just don't kow.

I'm speaking in general terms, not just the context of Bitch and who she really is.

>in the anime she has no motive to do everything she has done to naofumi from the first episode
She was literally collaborating with the Church of the Three Heroes, did you just turn your fucking brain off while watching the episode?

I don't know user i only come to these threads when a new episode is up and they're always pretty lively.

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They always reach bump limit when there's a new episode

best boy

It took three days for the previous threads to hit the bump limit. This is the most active the series has been since the first episode since this was what people had been anticipating.

>They always reach bump limit when there's a new episode
Cool horseshit bro

But its true? I have been participating on them since episode 1, even during the shitty pope episodes the threads reached 500+ posts

11/10

I'll miss watching this.

So laruku was in the op but not in the actual show? What gives?

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Will Spearm Hero stay together with Slut-Bitch?

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God she's hot

This anime isn't very good but it has neat ideas. Are WN/LN better in the execution? Is it better to read WN to LN or the opposite?

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sjw tranny detecteeeeeed

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The WN is just a less polished version of the LN and the ending for it sucks. If you want more Shield Hero, read the LN.

>wearing nothing under the plate armor
Truly a slut.

Fabulous. Handsome.

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They were having fun drawing her face.
2nd frame is like she got a dick in the wrong hole.

Sad thing about this is Naofumi still a virigin while that slut riding spearfag cock every night.

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If Naofumi was a real man he would have asked the Queen to let him fuck at least once.

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I think he knows Raftalia would ride him the moment he ask her

Litterally me.

At this point in the story he still thinks of Raphtalia as a little girl, even making comments that people will think he's building some kind of loli harem. Raphtalia is physically an adult but he doesn't see her that way.

And?

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because the look like hobos?

To clarify, I mean mentally he categorizes her as a little girl that he has to watch out for like a father would for his daughter. Physically, he sees that she's an adult, it's just that the wires in his head are crossed.

This is literally what isekai is. Trash for retards who were bullied at school and suicidal salarymen.

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>don't like terrible self insert show for retards
>Dude you a moralfag!

yes, because retard still believes malty will change because muh friendship's magic

>incels incels incels incels!!!!!!!!
Man, shut up, retard.

>bullied at school and suicidal salarymen
Naofumi was a college student and saved his little brother's way,the guy even say he wants to go home instead of staying with the supposed "wish-fullfilment",you're just mad because we're bullied and he didn't met your expectations

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slut makes my dick rise

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Every isekai with video game stats is instant trash.

he's raped by pic related in the WN
Raph becomes the demicuck

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t. Darling in the Franx faggot

That's not how this works retard. It doesn't matter what he wants all that matters is he's a self insert.

>not dropping the manga years ago
>not dropping it the moment video game shit appears
>not dropping it after reading "isekai" in description

You only have yourself to blame.

>i'm no sjw
>fuck-diddly-crap

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only faggots would want to go home
real men like motoyasu will stay in the new world

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No this is one of the shittier power fantasy isekais where everyone other the MC is an incompetent retard and the whole world exists to suck him off yet we're supposed to feel he was wronged or suffering.

>the monarch just went and altered the state religion
The last time this was done in my country a massive schism followed.

Stop typing like an idiot and go back to where you came from, faggot.

Based Spearchad

He'd just be killed again if he went back to his world. He has some yanderes after his life.

In a spear hero loop, naofumi's persona of the saint of the holy bird was so revered that revealing that he was the shield hero triggered a civil war.

>I will deny the fact that he has thoughts and objectives outside of his isekai to fullfil my agenda
No wonder no one likes SJW,they are exactly what they are supposed to "fight"
Motoyasu has a fair reason to stay,since he was stabbed by a yandere in his own world for being pretty or something like that.,you need to put yourself in the feet of others,Motoyasu has a reason to stay,Naofumi has a reason to comeback.

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Maybe if he choose to go the spear would have made it so he survived the encounter and the two bitches would've been sent to prison or something.
I mean, the shield made raphtalia a pen-pal he just admitted into his life and had been going out for a year and the sword made it so ren survived that murder case.

That could have been such a cool plot point
Imagine if one guy was from a timeline where Imperial Japan won in the Pacific, another guy was from a timeline where Japan stayed isolated until the 20th century, and another guy was from a Japan where Operation Downfall happened and they had been split and occupied by the US and USSR for decades
They would actually have very different attitudes toward stuff like war and human rights and they'd actually have organic reasons to get into conflicts over things and have a tough time working together
Instead it's just kind of never touched on again

why isnt naofumi leaving Melromarc and settling in the demihuman kingdom?
isnt he literally a god to them?

He's doing that now

This,/his/fags would love it and /pol/ would partially love it

he'll do that eventually, but unfortunately Siltvelt is no better than Melromarc tho

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I can't even remember if the anime mentioned this but it's heavily implied in the LN that the previous Shield Hero who made his base in Siltvelt was murdered there.

I think what he is alluding to is that "3 heroes church says shield hero bad therefore I'm going to make his life hell" is really weak motivation.

We never get told why they hate the shield hero so much.

Weapons actually choose from candidates that fit the legends, so nevermind people from different japans, people from other fantasy-like worlds can be choosen to be heroes.
The past shield hero's waifu was made the seven star hero of the claw, and she was from another world. And Sadina's little sister, Sildina, would've been summoned as the hero of the cards in Glass's world as sooner as she left Q'ten lo earlier. And actually becomes said hero in vol 19.

>Truly, the Rising of the Shield Hero was the friends we made along the way.

Really only Motoyasu is an incompetent retard. The other two heroes investigated on their own and discovered fuckery was afoot. Myne and Aultcray are malicious, not stupid. And you can't fault peasants for not knowing they're being lied to. The ones in the villages that Naofumi has helped appreciated it. The rest were shown fabricated evidence that Naofumi was a criminal. So yeah, you should feel Naofumi was wronged for being framed.

is that fucking world filled with pricks in every kingdom?

Politicians and people who aspire to be politicians are bad people.

wow, who could've guessed it, right user?
also
>he doesn't know

Fucking jaralis and his demihuman illuminati.

The only place relatively safe from most political bullshit is the mercenary country of Zeltbur. In many loops ren defects to there while waiting for shit to pass, or motoyasu sets up base there with naofumi & the gang.

Your fucking world is filled with pricks running every kingdom too, if you haven't noticed

Kinda eerie how similar it is to the real world, eh?

>a noble being stripped of their ranks and publicly shamed for the rest of their lives by having a stupid name is a lighter punishment than just death and that's it
Dude.

>Really only Motoyasu is an incompetent retard.
This denial. Naofumi even calls them retards

Yes.
The Queen is the only ruler who's not a complete scumbag.
She ends up dead though.

b--but i thought demihumans were the good guys and the humans were the oppressors

Itsuki and Ren are both competent, but willfully ignorant of reality and treat things like a joke/video game. Motoyasu is the only one that chooses to remain stupid by believing in Bitch long after she's been proven to be a fucking sociopath, and it takes a massive betrayal on her part to get him to wake the fuck up.

>kek i wanted to make a /pol/ joke but i was banned last week because of it
in all races and religions there are good people and bad people, user

user did you truly believe this?

>no dude you don't get it death is a light punishment because it's over quickly
This mentality is fucking stupid. There is nothing more inherently frightening to human beings than death itself because it is the absolute end of you. No second chances, no retries, you're just done, rotting in the fucking ground after your soul/spirit/consciousness has long since departed and become nothing. Living in any capacity still gives you the opportunity to change your circumstances.

hey, i thought this world only had demihumans, not fucking furries

Now that the dust has settled, Queen is best girl right?

bros

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How do thee animators draw this without having to jerk off?

y-yes
I am an animeonlyfag. i thought demihumans near melromarc were taken as slaves while the rest of the other kingdoms were living an utopia

I understand why her husband is the Hero of the Rod.

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I feel really bad for him.

Fueeeee

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all politicians are scum and should be hanged or worse

And that's exactly why. Kill someone and they won't have any time to suffer or repent, force them to live in shame and they'll continue suffering for a long time no matter what.

There's a lot of types of demi-humans in the world.
from cute catgirls to the furriest of furries

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who's this?
shes kinda cute

What makes you think they haven't already?

I have to admit, she definitely grew on me. Her interactions with Naofumi were cute as fuck.

>There is nothing more inherently frightening to human beings than death
I would immensely prefer the death penalty to life in prison. Pretty sure the only people that wouldn't are people that don't realize how fucking shit life in prison would be, which is why there are so many lifers that try to kill themselves in any way they can figure out. That said, that's not why Naofumi let them go. He realized they weren't a threat to him anymore and he knew the queen would be hurt if they died, so he took pity on them.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, no. Read the novels. Or rather, did you not hear in this very episode that there's a demi-human supremacist country that naofumi could go to? They do the same shit to humans that melromarc does to demi-humans.

Except Malty does none of that and instead organizes a fucking rebellion that costs more people their lives. She never repents, and her only suffering is when she gets tortured and mutilated by the pig king much further down the line. Keeping a person alive under the guise of seeing them suffer more is nothing but mercy disguised as cruel vindictiveness and displays that a person is lacking the will to do what needs to be done.

The prison argument falls apart when you realize that there are just as many prisoners that fight tooth and nail through appeals to get off of death row and have their sentences commuted to life in prison.

As long as Elsa tops the list I'm fine with it.

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>The prison argument falls apart when you realize that there are just as many prisoners that fight tooth and nail through appeals to get off of death row and have their sentences commuted to life in prison.
It's almost like not everyone is the same and some people can cope with being stuck in a cage for the rest of their life better than others. I'm not one of those people and I'd rather be dead.

>Except Malty does none of that and instead organizes a fucking rebellion that costs more people their lives.
That's in the WN though. In the LN that plan is crushed before it could even start, so malty never gets punished for it and doesn't end up with the pig king.

Evil bitches get my pp hard and it makes life and looking for a -reliable and sane- partner pretty difficult.

If they rush through the island, it's their next party member

When you're actually forced into a situation where you have to choose, get back to me and let me know whether or not you had the nerves to willingly walk to your execution.

FUCK.

And what kind of people do you think Bitch and Trash are? They would welcome prison cells with open arms as long as they can avoid the guillotine .

Every party needs a cute dork.

My wife.

And there was no way to guess she's try to fuck over the entire world after being so shamed despite the likeliness of it happening due to how she's an awful person. I doubt Naofumi never expected her to repent anyway especially after the light show she provided, so humiliating her was just a way to get a kick out of the situation.

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I haven't been watching this, but having spent a good portion of the day reading the threads on Yea Forums I really want to see the Queen get one of the slave tats now.

Really was that the last ep, the skipped so much of the nice stuff, to just end it with 21 eps instead 24 or 25 or 26 and botchered the events like this.
Also they have allowed Malty to go free once after commting high treason and continued to do so several times after that despite her plotting to basically kill her mother and sister.
They made the queen kinda stupid in the anime, especially with her reaction towards her daughter.

Like i said in another thread, she ends up with takt anyway, but instead of fighting with him she chills out at fabuley with random people and when he loses she fucks off to glass's world and fucks up shit there.

Because your dick demands it or because you have some reason for the plot?

They're the kind of people that value status above everything else and having the entire world ostracize them is a pretty thorough punishment. As long as they're not longer a threat, who cares if they live, especially when it saves the queen from becoming distraught. She was ready to give her own life in exchange for theirs.

>get back to me and let me know whether or not you had the nerves to willingly walk to your execution
user I barely want to live when I'm outside of prison don't act like people that would take their own lives don't exist.

Are you sure about that? At least for the princess she's lived a life of privilege and luxury, going from that to being imprisoned for the rest of your life is a huge change. I would give her maybe 2 months before she starts having suicidal thoughts.

Eh it had it's issue but I still enjoyed it.

What's this expression trying to convey?

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>I was prepared to offer my life in exchange of theirs
Mom was an asshole too I see, So her plan was basically negate to Naofumi his revenge anyway puting him on a situation where he had no choice but spare them or he would be responsable of Queen's death.

What a family of underhanded bastards, all them should die, except Melty

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>OH SHIT WRONG HOLE MOTOYASU-SAMAAAAAAAA

This is honestly the worst anime I've watched in quite a number of years.

Solid 3/10.

Everyone does. We just aren't autistic enough that we need to point it out.

Trash hated a person who was not even the same shield hero as the one he blames so much for his past pain that he freaking over looked his daughter trying to kill his other daughter and wife, which would have ultimately led the churhc to kill him aswell.

>What a bitch, how dare she love her husband and oldest daughter to the point of self-sacrifice even if she knows they do not deserve it?

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Yeah, she proved to be as manipulative as her daughters.

>negate to Naofumi his revenge
He ends up being pretty satisfied, you can't fault a mother or wife for not wanting their daughter or husband to die, even if they suck.

Really? The worst? In the last few years? You want to try that again?

Be easy on him, he watched 20 WHOLE animes (sic) these past few years.

Next season.

Nothing wrong with admitting that he has been lucky to avoid some of the shit we've had. If he has only watched the great shows from the past few years it make sense that his scale of quality is way off.

So mad they made so many stupid changes in how the events were executed.

Kinda, since everyone in that world know how the slave seal works with the exception of the three stupid heroes.
Even if you were brainwashed to believe something, the seal would force through the truth.
Unlike a fake truth through tortue were you torture someone until you hear the confession you want to hear.
This thing only reacts when something really is amiss.
Thus everyone know that whenever she reacted like that she was not simply trying a small lie, but a really fucking big one.

Jesus christ. I'm not watching this show, but just seeing this in the catalog, there's no way ANY of those characters are on model right now, right?

It's funny that the people that hate on the show are the biggest edgelords
>How dare they exile them, they should have been executed!
>The queen is such a bitch, how dare she be a loving mother and wife!

Trash should be spared because, despite being a complete piece of shit, he has a history that somewhat justifies his incredibly warped perception of reality and the Shield Hero. Bitch should have been executed just on the grounds of repeatedly trying to murder her sister, another member of nobility at that.

This is my designated terrible anime for this season but it's hard to call it the worst in years
Last season was SAO: Alicization which was about on the same level as this, maybe a notch or two above
The season before that was Conception though and holy fuck, Shield Hero is Shakespeare compared to that shit
Though both series had horny raccoons, oddly enough

Agreed, especially Raphtalia's "if you kill him you're just like him" sentiment. I wonder if the author had any input with these changes?

She was fully prepared to let Naofumi have his revenge in some fashion, otherwise she wouldn't have even done that much in terms of putting them on public trial and possibly executing them. She just couldn't bring herself to actually do the execution because as shitty as they are, they're still her family.

>I would immensely prefer the death penalty to life in prison.
Hey Alan, is that you?

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Last season had shit like Egao no Daika that was worse than both Shield Hero and SAO combined

que pendejo eres, user

i dont play shitty movie games how could i know that?

Do you not see the problem with the ruler of the country undermining the laws of said country? If the punishment for treason is death, then it doesn't matter if it's your children that committed treason, they are executed.

We went through this experiment over and over again throughout history of what happens if the ruling elite gets to live under different rules than the common person. You know what happens every single time? Violent bloody revolution. By being a manipulative bitch getting the shield hero to pardon her husband and daughter she is dooming her country to that fate.

But sure, she should get to disregard the laws when it concerns her loved ones. No problems there at all.

Dude it means she causes more and more shit.
She freaking activated the fail safe function of their world later on that in the case the heroes fail would decimate 80-90% of all life in the world to reset it until population grew again.

And it does not stop there, she still constantly plots against Naofumi, her sister, her mother, the country, the world, demi-humans.
She literally is the evil goddess that birthed herself in a human to get a high of making everyone miserable.
The original ending was her supposed to win with Naofumi thinking he had won and bam her killing and mutilating everyone Naofumi started to care about, Raphtalia, Melty and Firio being raped before being tortured to death and Naofumi being send back to earth powerless knowing about all that shit.

They are too caught up in revenge because they are incredibly self-centered.

a glorified fanfic

B-But if you kill your enemies they win!

I hate those changes aswell, the other way worked so much better and made so much more sense, also trash being surprised at Naofumi appearing in the throne room trying to have the guards capture him, with the queen freezing him over.

And the Queen is supposed to know that?
From her point of view she's just her daughter who lost her way.

Except the Queen knows her daughter is a sack of shit and that's why Melty is the heir to the throne.

>Shieldbro spends entire season building trust with the other heroes, Melty, civilians and others
>Seems like show is building up to him clearing his name through the help of all these people
>Instead a character he has never met before shows up and solves the core plot thread of the series in an episode all by herself without shieldbro needing to do anything
>In the end slowly working to build trust with people didn't matter at all, all he ahd to do was wait for the queen to show up eventually
>Doesn't even go through with the revenge porn, naofumi decides to act against his character and spare the people he has intensely hated for the whole series.
Sasuga Shield Hero, truly top tier storytelling, as expected from a web comic isekai.

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Despite all she officialy was proven of Motoyasu still believes her and follows her shitty advice.

>Do you not see the problem with the ruler of the country undermining the laws of said country?
Melromarc is a totalitarian monarchy. The queen makes the laws. Mandatory minimum punishments didn't even exist in our society until recently and they may not even exist in theirs. Normally there is discretion in punishments, especially when the victims show mercy.

What was the song at the ending called? When Naofumi was leaving.

spirited away was trash and the only you like it is because of the production values

The anime fucking changed that too! In both the manga and the LN, even when it was revealed that Malty was a lying bitch he still stuck by her and tried to argue against her execution. In the anime, he just stands idly by, watching from the rafters as she's about to get her head lopped off. Who the fuck directed this episode? Put them in a guillotine next.

But Queen still loves Malty despite all of it. She still holding on for Malty to reform her ways.

I can understand where he is coming from. Honestly this is better than the Light Novel because it actually shows him growing and struggling with how much bottled up rage he has rather than just becoming more and more of an asshole.

I agree. Trash acted like an asshat, but his own personal suffering was manipulated by both his daughter and the church. His worse sin is being a fool.

Rise of the shield comedian. Just look at that crowd laugh!

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An annoying piece of shit that got stupidly strong that one time for no reason and then went back to being shit.
t. dropped the LN at vol 9-10

Imagine the Queen offering her own butthole along with Malty's to quench the Shield Hero's rage.

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He laughs on the outside, but internally he wishes he could at least kill one of them with no repercussions on the Queen and Melty. This is a man who suffers for the good of the kingdom.

I stopped watching at ep6 since I have too much things to do
is it worst picking that up again for the ryona that comes later?

>tfw we won't get to see the next two party members animated
Feels bad, man. And they're right around the corner, too.

Imagine having to animate this but you gotta stop every few minutes to beat your meat.

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Which is why they are headed for disaster. Her "love", or selfishness as I would call it, for her family will doom the entire country to death and destruction.

Just watch episode 21 and masturbate on lewds

>Every single female that has traveled with him besides the slut has prooven that they actually like him and
>still is going to be an insecure/untrusting little shit to the girls he meets in the future anyway.

I'll give Naofumi credit, he knows how to put on a convincing display whenever he's playing the dickhead/bad guy. He's a hell of an actor.

You'll miss almost nothing if you just skip straight from episode 6 to the last couple of episodes

Maybe but it's a pretty fucking realistic thing to happen so I don't see how anyone could call shitty writing unless they're just an edgelord that wants revenge porn.

This wouldn't be so bad if we weren't about to be shown her being readmitted by Motoyasu into his party and keep on defending, but they can't change that since they seem to be all about reaching the same end as the source material, only on a different way at times.

And all that is in the future, something nobody can know at this point because the shield doesn't have precognition powers. It has nothing to do with "if you kill them they win!" shit, you people are whining as if Naofumi begged the execution to stop and told them to walk away scot-free without realizing how much of a hit to their pride the renaming and power stripping was.

Yeah, the fact of them provoking thousands of deaths around the country doesn't matter, doesn't matter either the murdering attempt or the treason, or neraly provoking a war that could have taken god who knows how may lives.
Is not as Naofumi got the worst part because he was framed, there was lot more to it.

If was some random asshole who killed one person would have been killed. This people gets away with it because they are the queen's beloved ones

I still prefer the LN version, where he has a shit-eating grin during the whole thing and wants to murder them both on the spot and it's the Queen who has to convince him that executing the royal family is not a good idea.

Motoyasu has single digit IQ so he's a special case.

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>This people gets away with it because they are the queen's beloved ones
That's how it usually works in a monarchy.

>nuhu Melty was only as much of a bitch because she literally has a spawn of satan in her

How lazy can you get? Why couldn't she just be a normal whore?

Following the line of quotes I haven't seen anyone saying its "shitty writting" just people saying the Queen was extremely selfish there.

Motoyasu is the type of guy that has his heart in the right place but was born without a fucking brain.

He should have demanded the Queen and Melty and Malty to bear his child.
First of this punishes trash having to know Naofumi the shield hero fucked his wive and daughters until they were pregnant and that they gave birth to the kids.

It punishes Malty before her accusations became real and she is forced to bear the child of someone she unreasonably hates.

It punishes Melty for ignoring her mothers orders of reprimanding trash and bitch for their deeds and demanding from Naofumi to apologize to her father.
If she had done as her mother had ordered, things might not have escalated as they did, since those events did cost some several hundred people their lives.
The punishment is not that she would not want a kid from Naofumi, but that her child birth would be a really hard one with an immature body like hers.

The queen would be punished, because she could have prevent all this before it happend if she used her abilities and resources better as she knew how her husband, eldest daughter and church behaved before the waves even started.
For her its punishment as she still loves her husband and does not want to betray him, now she has to sleep not only with someone else, but her daughters and herself will give birth to this mans children.

The best part is that they cannot even do anything to the kids as they are the descandents of the shield hero and harming his kids would be a reason for war for the other 3 big nations of their world.

We didn't call it shitty writing, we called out the queen for being a manipulative cunt just like her daughters are. She has the same sin that both her daughters have, one of the daughters just went further than she expected her to. She is dooming her country to ruin but people are justifying her actions with "but she loves her family" like that makes her actions justified.

Never questioned it to be plausible, but as stated before, that makes the Queen as much as a selfish asshole as the rest of the family.

So can we all agree that Glass is best girl?

And that's why so many monarchies have ended with bloody revolutions.

A selfish monarch leads to the same thing every time.

Queen > Glass

>She is dooming her country to ruin but people are justifying her actions with "but she loves her family" like that makes her actions justified.
The difference is that I don't think that having discretion in punishments dooms a country to ruin.

She's selfish, sure. Most people are. I do not think she's an asshole.

Why was this episode set up as some sort of last episode even though they showed the name for the 22nd episode and shit?

TASUKETE, NAOFUMI-SAMA!

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Why was it so different from the manga? Is that how things played out in the LN/WN? The manga version was much more intense, I'm really disappointed.

I was fucking mad they turned Naofumi into a moralfag on the last minute. Bitch should have gotten her head chopped off.

Found the manga much more hilarious, but I like this version too

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Usually those monarchs are more than just selfish. As in, they execute people for fun or unjustly.

Yes it does. You should read the history of most revolutions against monarchies. Repeated behavior like we see the queen do here is exactly what triggers it.

PURE

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>okay your name is now Bitchy Bitch Slut
>moralfag

bowfag cumdumpster

Well what do you think happens when three nations are formed solely to get back on the humans that treated every other species like shit.

That's when they start losing control of the country and the population starts rebelling.

>Repeated behavior like we see the queen do here is exactly what triggers it.
Name an instance. Almost all revolutions stem from unjust punishments against people that don't deserve it, not from leniency in punishments.

edgy

t. parents were too poor to afford cable
deal with it, third worlder.
I loved Toonami and Isekai is fine even if it is annoying to see it in everything nowadays

>doesn't actually treat Bitch like a bitch by having a go while she's locked in the pillory
Lame.

Tehee~, Bitch only tried to kill her own sister, who is also part of Queen's family and the Queens actual successor, out of pure greed for power! No biggie!

And how do you measure if a punishment is unjust or not deserved? By comparing it to previous instances of the same thing happening.

Guess the next episode will be a prologue/set for the next season that will never come.
Kind of like "ending" this season, so the chapter feels more like a tease for something to come than feeling as ending in a cliffhanger.
In the practice is the same, but the perception changes a little. this way it feels a bit more of a closure.

sounds like a garbage slut through and through

I would have loved for the seiyuu to just go crazy on this part, ragefumi is best Nafumo

He should have also told the queen to make a law that forbids anyone whose name is Bitch from wearing clothes.

Sorry that is not how you spell Glass or that one spy girl.

>MUH IF YOU KILL HER YOU'RE NO BETTER

Moralfag

>paying for cable
>in 2019
ishygddt

Her name is Rishia and she's my wife.

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the Queen offering up her beautiful royal butthole to the Shield Hero at this command

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Right. Rebellions happen when rulers punish people that don't deserve it.

>By comparing it to previous instances of the same thing happening.
By that logic punishments are never wrong as long as you keep doing the same thing over and over. Which is obviously not the case. We also don't have any studies of what previous punishments for treason are in Melromarc. We can guess that they're execution, but we don't know how often leniency has been shown.

When did he ever say or think that? I know it's hard to do so while watching something you hate but please try to pay attention to what happened this episode.

So, you tried to kill your sister, bad girl! bad! You shouldn't do that! Now shake hands and make peaces and we settle with an icecream

That shit idea of letting her live despite being a traitor (you do not let traitors live and you do not trust them) did cost some ten or hundred thousand people their lives and homes.

This had nothing to do with "MUH IF YOU KILL HER YOU'RE NO BETTER". He spared them for the queen's feelings.

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t. Parents never loved me

Whos the dragon and the brown girl?

I know he gets some whale party member

Are the volumes after 13 translated yet? I think volume 14 was supposed to be out like in april or something but I can't see it on Nyaa.

No, rebellions happen when you become too lax in killing and punishing your subjects.

North korea and the fall of the USSR are great examples. the USSR let up on their people and crumbled to pieces because when given more slack the slaves reaction isn't to thank the master but rise up and kill them, since they're still a slave.

Meanwhile, north korea is willing to literally genocide its entire populace till there's no one left alive but surpreme leader, and it will never fall no matter how horrific it is.

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Nope.

Won't be able to watch this episode for another few hours. Was it at last on par with the manga version?

>the greatest treasure our country has to offer
It was definitely her royal butthole.

That’s smart.

Man on a mission. No time for thots.

>No, rebellions happen when you become too lax in killing and punishing your subjects.
Oh right I forgot that ruling through fear works great.

>Meanwhile, north korea is willing to literally genocide its entire populace till there's no one left alive but surpreme leader, and it will never fall no matter how horrific it is.
North Korea is pretty much the only instance where that has ever worked and it's only because it has the backing of a much larger nation.

Too many things were changed, in my opinion. Light Novel > Manga > Anime.

For some reason I want to take the queen to an ice cream salon and feed her a spoonful of my sorbet while she giggles and ara ara~s about how embarassing it is for her to act like a teenage girl.

True dat. If you're a tyrant, you'd better go all the way. The forgotten, unspoken implication of "might makes right" is that your right fades if your might fades.

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Gobs before knobs

Or they don't execute people that deserves to be executed, or letting the nobles do whatever they want. That has ended some monarchies too

Haven't finished it, but he seems to get some compassionate emotions at the thought of their execution.

This is so stupid.
They saw people lose their homes and die because of the shit that girl caused, not even accounting to what they went through.

He went blind for his daughter trying to usurp his wife and kill his other daughter, just because he spoiled her rotten.
He went blind on the suffering this caused to his people, the kind of suffering he knows about for which you want to spare him.
This makes everything only worse.

see

[fueee noises intensify]

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*ahem* just want to tell the fucking idiot that posted his gayass prediction that the anime was gonna change this episode in every thread since the PV into something different to go fuck himself.

>classique
Incredible.

The brown girl is some scientist that moves to Naofumi's town.

the dragon is a gift from Siltvelt but some shit happened and now it shares the mind with the dragon from episode 8. He can change forms to a bigger dragon.

It's established by the show that the punishment for treason is a public execution because we see the official punishment handed out to the king and princess IS a public execution with no shock of "Wow, treason carries a death sentence". In fact, the small shock we are shown by the people in the show is that the queen would execute her own family, not that this is an unusual punishment.

That tells us that it's not even unusual for the queen to give differential treatment to her own family.

Anyway, what are we actually arguing here? Do you think the queen is in the right to manipulate the shield hero to spare her family?

If you were watching it only to see Naofumi go full rage at Bitch then you're going to be disappointed, but personally I enjoyed seeing him acting like a smug comedian while changing their names.

Good episode.

>North Korea is pretty much the only instance where that has ever worked

Try literally every medieval government in history.

>watching something you hate

user the reason I'm so pissed is because I love this show, but I'm infuriated at how they shat on Naofumi's character. Why the fuck would he spare the fucking bitch? he had no reason, no, not even the queen threatening to kill herself. She put her through so much shit from the second he got summoned, death would have been so satisfying.

Fucking hell, fuck you and fuck the producers for moralfagging him up.

>tfw Naofumi doesn't rape the slut princess

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Why the fuck is Naofumi suddenly a humongous pussy? What a fucking garbage anime, I wholeheartedly enjoyed the fact that he wasn't a literal knight in a shining armor but actually had some backbone and demanded compensation for his efforts and wanted people who were responsible for shit to carry the consequences. He was never a lawful good character who would do something like sparing the princess and the king yet here we are

She got what she deserved. Naofumi can now just focus on his daughterwives.

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The anime changed this, she never wanted them executed, even did get of nearly scot free if you think about it, as Malty already lost her right to the thorne because of her misdeeds to Melty before the events of the show started.
So all that changed for Malty was her name.
In the original Naofumi demanded their death and the queen got him to reconsider as she seriously did not want to kill them.
Despite them being the cause of the death of hundreds or thousand and even more people having lost everything they had.
It gets worse as they did not learn from this and continue their shit later on with the victims people up ever higher than before.

This means the queen and Melty are both equally responsible as they failed to prevent this.

It really is the only way to make things right. The "king" should have been forced to watch his wife and daughter spread their royal buttholes for the Shield Hero to plug.

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>He spared them for the queen's feelings.
One could even argue it was for his own well being too. Like he kind of felt through the dream that their execution wasn't a good thing.

I mean, if he had no spared them he would be in a pretty nasty position because he would potentially make him guilty of Queen dying. And that could have let him a sour taste probably because is not that he hates the queen and knows she is not ill-intended, is just love. But at the same time, it would be inconvenient if that happened so one can see spare them as a way of eviting more problems.

Shield hero should be fucking mad though, because the Queen basically played him too by giving him something that she knew he wouldn't have in the end.

If you want true Edgefumi read the web novel

This, fucking hell, this! Finally someone who gets it.

And if it's their greatest treasure that means one thing: They've never offered it to anyone else. Royalty traded virginity as gifts to other royals all the time. Queen's an anal virgin and she was down to give brown.

>moralfagging
>when he's the one who suggests demoralizing her for the rest of her life rather than letting her get away without any suffering by just dying
>moralfagging
I guess there's no point in trying to argue with people who refuse to listen to anything.

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>The anime changed this, she never wanted them executed, even did get of nearly scot free if you think about it, as Malty already lost her right to the thorne because of her misdeeds to Melty before the events of the show started.
>So all that changed for Malty was her name.
This is false. She was not stripped of her "right to her throne" this time, but rather of her SOCIAL POSITION alltogether. Before this she was still a "princess with no right to the throne".
Now? A hero's slave companion who has been completely cut off from any royal authority.

>pages are right to left
>user puts the pages left to right

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>A hero's slave companion who has been completely cut off from any royal authority.
And whose name is Bitch.

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>is that fucking world filled with pricks in every kingdom?

Let me check
>Faubley
>has pig king who is into snuff and guro, also jerky

>Q-tenlo
>We have 1 volume of Naofumi fixing their corrupt shit

>Zeltobe
>Has coloseum fights, often deathmatches

>Shieldfreeden
Allied themselves with the enemy of the world the moment they heard of him

ITs late here and I'm sleepy, is not as if I didn't think on it or something, I actually thought on the order and still someway managed to fuck it up. I should go sleep

It's alright user, I do stupid shit when tired too.
Have a good night.

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Why did the King walk off with Trash. I know it’s supposed to be an insulting but it sounds pretty close to Thrash.

As much as I hate women and children alike, this picture filled me with dread and made me realize I will NEVER watch saturday morning cartoons with my daughters.

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>this episode

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Well yes the queen knows.
There is a reason why Melty is the heiress to the throne.
Malty has done so much shit prior to the actuall story that she was removed from the line of inheritance.
Her mother even mentioned that she is a pathological liar.
Her mother now also knows that Malty treid to not just kill Melty but also her since she wanted the throne.
Her mother knows she is traitorous and conspires with other traitors.
Her mother knows she commited high treason.
Her mother knows that her deeds forced thousands into poverty and to lose everything they had.
She knows many have died because of these events.
She knows that her deads nearly started a world war which would have caused even more death and grieve.
She knows that with a hero dead the waves become much harder.
She knows that the fail safe will activate if the heroes fail, thus killing most life in the world.

Yes even without future vision the queen full well knew that Malty could not have been allowed any kind of freedom or interaction with others because she cannot be trusted.
But no since she already prior to the story lost her official standing she got away with being called bitch and slut, which stopped after a shortwhile as Motoyasu the irredeemable retard and his companions did only comply in public presence of the queen.

Also the queen let all the conspirators among the military, the guard and the nobles go scot free aswell as she cannot punish them if she is not able to punish her husband and daughter.

Aside from the pope and his closest aides no one of those fuckwits got any kind of punishment.
How do you think Malty is able to later bring a coup into the castle and nearly succeed with it.
Because non of those people got punished since she cannot punish them if trash and bitch are not punished.

see I wait for this scene in the anime, fuck fucking forever moralfags!

NAOFUMI SAMAAAAAAAA I USED TO BE STRONG

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Having a daughter is the ultimate form of cuckoldry anyway, be thankful.

So hate this episode.

i'd rather be a cuck than being black

How wet was she

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She power sprayed so hard that she killed an ox.

I have no idea why user felt the need to give a fucking video game of all things as an example, but they meant any cheesy title drop or clichéd expression as a conclusive statement.
>The true Neon Genesis Evangelion is the human connections we made along the way.
>In a way, what we've witnessed has been Serial Experiments Lain.
>Still, I will continue to fight. Me... and my Mobile Suit Gundam.

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Anime/manga-fag here, does this prick ever face any karma? I know he's one of the lesser pricks in this series, but every time he shows up he's such an arrogant, ass licking faggot. Like does he at least go home in disgrace after abandoning Bow retard? (And helping him do that retarded little stunt in the first place)

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>OH GOD OH GOD I'M FUCKING RETARDED HURR HDURF FUCK HURR DURR DURRFFF

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I think you meant to say
>>Glass>>Queen

Well I have a thing for fuckwits and idiots that did dumb shit getting punished.

I saw too often these kinds of people getting rewarded for doing shit.

Also it would make for some great porn, damn now I want this kinda doujin.

That is not how it works.
Superman and Batman do this and all it causes is the evil escaping within two weeks as the system is flawed beyond repair and more people dying and suffering.
But sure Superman and Batman can enjoy their moral high.

Thanks for you concerns, but among all the problems I had in life, this was never an issue.

You know with this artstyle it is a shame this is not porn.

>Do you think the queen is in the right to manipulate the shield hero to spare her family?
Yes, as much as I think most people would try to convince someone else to spare their family. I don't think she was attempting to manipulate him. Manipulation is by definition insidious, and I think she would have been upfront about what she wanted, and Naofumi would be aware of it too. I think I can understand where our difference of opinion may be though. Possibly you think she was going to tell Naofumi "Spare them or I will kill myself" which is manipulation, but I interpreted her words as "Please spare them and take me instead". I don't think she would have killed herself if it wasn't what Naofumi requested. Or something along those lines anyway.

I wonder how many people got an erection.

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I think that about most manga.

Much funier is that the people that directly suffered from all of this are compasionate towards her instead of all screaming in joy of her death and punishment.
What do we learn from this either belong to a rich and powerfull family or be lucky and be born with good genes for beauty, even better both.

So why don't they apply the seal on areas that aren't the chest?
Hell, her shoulder's already exposed.

Wrong lesson. The lesson is that if you're a female (preferably an attractive one), you can get away with everything. Remember that Lorena Bobbit never saw the inside of a jail cell.

Did you even read the manga? The punishment is the exact same.

The cringe is the fact that naofumi is a good boi merciful cuck incel who dindu nuffin wrong in the anime. It reeks of the professional victimhood of incels.

The manga he wants them to die and gets talked out of it because he constantly has to deal with bullshit but is reasonable. It's just one more episode of bullshit he has to deal with.

Or Slut. By royal decree you're also allowed to refer to her as Slut.

Probably better to apply it closer to her heart. I don't fuck know, it's magic.

Well, it's not Batman or Superman's fault that the other people living in their world doesn't immediately execute the villains they bring in. I've thought for a long time that I would love to read a Batman story where instead of imprisoning the people he catches Gotham instead started executing them to see how that would mesh with his "No Killing" rule.

Would he view himself as responsible for their deaths by handing them over in which case he would have to do something different after catching them or does he justify doing so in some way?

But that's what makes him good. He is rightfully pissed off because he's wrong, but he's also a reasonable person.

In the anime he's a cuck.

That was a temporary slave seal and even if it was not Motoyasu sure got rid of it fast.
Also you know a princess has no political power.
So it basically changed nothing.
Instead excusing them makes it impossible for the queen to target and punish all the co-conspirators in the government, nobility, guards and military.

This scream shit is going to happen, because all the people aside from the pope and his closest aides that helped her are still in power.

What does happen I get proven right, she tries the same shit later again and tries again to kill her sister and mother.
Since you know her mothers death was also part of the first plan, since with her alive she could not be queen.

>Malty doesn't wear anything under the armor
>Her nips have been rubbing against cold steel for the better part of 21 episodes

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They must need a lot of lotion and kisses

I dunno, he's definitely cooler in the LN but I prefer stand-up comedian Naofumi because it puts a smile on my face.

Do you unironically believe people are fundamentally good on some level?

He is one of the traitors and conspirators that work with bitch.
Since the queen did not punish trash and bitch she has to let all those "minor" assholes among the military and nobles go unpunished.

If she was upfront about it she would have told Naofumi her intentions beforehand instead of only telling him that she was sentencing them to execution. That's what makes it manipulation to me, she didn't tell him her intentions at all and instead sought to spring it on him as a surprise.

Besides, why would Naofumi want her dead at all? What you are describing is a non-choice for him, there's no world in which he comes off well by choosing either option if he allows her to force him to make that choice publicly. By forcing that choice on him he's either the man responsible for the queen being dead or he's the man responsible for the king and princess being dead.

Pasties.

Yeah sure he was [plenty of normalfag buzzwords here] for publicly humiliating and demoralizing her for the rest of her life instead of letting her die.

I don't care about that I just think the humiliation in front of a big crowd as Naofumi cracks jokes is funny.

>prevent pregnancy
>not increase fertility and induce ovulation on demand

>What do we learn from this either belong to a rich and powerfull family or be lucky and be born with good genes for beauty, even better both.
If you didn't realize that already user then you might be a little slow on the uptake. Most people act like Motoyasu, that's how Karla Homolka and Shirley Turner got off the hook after all.

Death is only a light punishment if the non-lethal alternative is sufficiently harsh, to make life itself a form of torture. For example, if Malty had her eyes gouged out for her lack of foresight in opposing one of the Four Holy Heroes, had her tongue cut out for the falsehoods she spread, had the hands with which she committed treason lopped off, and turned out onto the streets as a blind, mute, crippled beggar, to be abused by the common people, that could be considered sufficient. Merely stripping her of her rank and titles, giving her a humiliating name, and slapping a magic slave seal on her chest does nothing to destroy her ability to retaliate and only lightly reduces her quality of life.

Do you unironically believe that he had any hopes or intention of seeing Malty become a good person after her punishment in the anime? Because if you did then you're somehow watching anime wrong.

>I don't understand this brand
It's a slave brand. To make it so that the slave has to do as you please and be loyal. And they get hurt when they don't.
Did you read or watch the series?

There are some serious offenders Iwill give you that.

I wanted to say that, but then I tought well are we not just the well hated Yea Forums user sexist again today

They're making him too much of a good boy for my liking. Since coming to this world he's been living his life for this very moment and he just cracks a joke and calls the reason for his trust issues a bich.

Well for Batman he ould be okay with that as he accepts the law systems punishment system from how I understand it.

But seriously would be nice to see this.

So was that it? That was the last episode, right?

Force the queen and her daughters to bear your child.
Perfect punishment for everyone in that family.
Queen, Melty, Bitch and Trash would get what they deserve.

4 more episodes left.

Then why did he save her? It make much more sense in the LN/manga where he was basically told he had every right to want her dead, but it was off the table because it was impractical. It makes everyone involved seem less retarded.

The way it should be is Naofumi should understand being "good" is a luxury, not a duty. Righteousness is based on righting wrongs, not doing good for inherently pure reasons. He likes doing good, but only does good when he has a reasonable expectation of it being good for himself too.

Honestly I just didn't get the dream. Him sparing the two idiots makes sense in the context of his character, because he was just being considerate to those who have treated him well in Melty and the Queen. Why the fuck would he have a dream regretting those two being executed while none of his feelings of apprehension had to do with Melty and the Queen? It implied the prospect of execution sat poorly with him which doesn't make sense with his character. Otherwise the episode was fine. Certainly the manga/LN was better, but an interesting take.

>blushing
What a slut

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They were already being publicly humiliated in the show trial before they got executed. The anime was pretty explicit the main reason he spared them was that guilt was eating away at him.

>If she was upfront about it she would have told Naofumi her intentions beforehand instead of only telling him that she was sentencing them to execution.
She gave him the option of sentencing them to death, but she would also have offered him to have her executed in their stead as a last ditch effort. She would have done it if it's what he really wanted.

>Besides, why would Naofumi want her dead at all?
I get what you're saying here but that's usually the case in "take me instead" situations. Often the person asking to be the sacrifice is an innocent that nobody really wants dead. It doesn't mean they don't try.

>By forcing that choice on him he's either the man responsible for the queen being dead or he's the man responsible for the king and princess being dead.
No she's still the one that sentenced them to death and she would be the one sentencing herself to die in their stead. Naofumi only gets to choose through her power, in reality it's not his choice. As a note, punishments in stead are a sort of biblical thing so this isn't really new.

>What a slut
That slave crest is probably twisting her nips.

>but it was off the table because it was impractical
Anime only fag here, and while it makes more sense for Naofumi to sentence her to death, how could the queen and the rest argue it is "impractical"? Does the LN/Manga elaborate on their reasoning?
I mean bitch was pretty much known for being a giant cunt even before her galaxy brain plan, and it was clear as day she wouldn't repent after that trial shitshow.

Look at her left hand when she is about to ive the signal with her right hand, had Naofumi not done something at that moment she would have intervented with another trick to save them.

Because professional victim incels convince themselves that they're actually decent people.

Because due to him feeling "something" about the execution (due to him noticing the queen's behavior when she announced it) among possibly other things, he decided that he'd rather humiliate her so she'd suffer for the rest of her life than just end her life quickly. Seriously how the fuck is it so hard for any of you to understand this? A "good" Naofumi would have tried to lecture them about not doing any more bad things and set them free without even stripping their ranks, and yet that's not what happened at all. Just because he didn't let them die that doesn't mean he no longer resents them.

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No, but they really made it seem like that, didn't they? Naofumi gets redeemed in the eyes of the people and walks off into the sunset with the rest of his squad, and then you get the title drop for the next episode. I think they fucked up somewhere.

>queen chuckles when he calls his daughter a lonely sad slutty bitchy whore
She would have let him bareback her daughter in front of the whole kingdom and they'd have cheered. I'm glad I sat through 15 episodes of lolicon waifu shit.

This is just revenge porn. Are there people who actually think this is good?

>Does the LN/Manga elaborate on their reasoning?
In the LN/manga the Queen managed to talk Naofumi into believing that the other countries would see Melromarc in a weakened state if both its king and one of their princesses were put to death.

ah yes the king who married into royalty because he was a adventurer and fucked the queen. I bet hes so sad that he can now do nothing all day and fuck the queen at night, and I doubt being called trash has much effect on a former adventurer

How do you know what she would have done or what her intentions were? You are projecting what you personally wanted her to do. You are arguing based off headcanon instead of what we actually saw in the episode.

She sentences them to death because she has to. It's the expected sentence and doing anything else would raise suspicions that she is abusing her power. But behind the scenes she seeks to manipulate the circumstances to avoid an execution taking place and it worked.

Because it made their country look retarded and weak along with the 3 heroes church incident was her reasoning

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when the FUCK is he going to level up his party?

Jesus Christ I am getting so triggered here. With all the shit he has killed since hitting the level cap he would probably be like 50-55 by now.

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>and they'd have cheered
And with good reason, she'd use that to signal the demi-human kingdoms not to attack them and other political bullshit.

Actually being weakened at all would not even matter, if naofumi went to Shiltvelt and told them to go to war they would gladly do it. They just need a reason to go nuts.

Nobility/royalty doesn't like it when they aren't above the law. This is why when kings would lose wars, they would go into exile instead of being executed. Knights in shining armor expected to be captured and not killed, them returned to their families for ransom. This is how the world used to actually work.

Constitutional legalism where no one was above the law was only a response to excesses absolute monarchy where the sovereign had a true monopoly on executive power. Nobles absolutely hate laws when the monarchy is weak, because then they are the law, take for example that corrupt noble in the anime.

>when the FUCK is he going to level up his party?
I expected him to ask for it before they left. Like "Hey, give us some upgrades so we can teabag those monsters we ran away from"

He should go to the hourglass next episode

Can someone post the frame of Malty's breasts right before she got the slave seal? I need it for a reference image.

Are you going to request something in the drawthread?

Yes.

But then, wouldn't stripping their royalty position all the same? They may be alive, but they are then portrayed as court clowns out of the open.
I know Naofumi cooked that alternative on the spot, but it is kind of funny how that argument doesn't hold the water because it is the same kind of political damage anyway.

We all did dumbass but promptly moved past it because trite rehashed maymay faggotrh gets boring.

>Because due to him feeling "something" about the execution
No, he had a dream where he already didn't like it.
>due to him noticing the queen's behavior when she announced it
Naofumi would have thought it was an act just like his dick phase with Melty.
>he decided that he'd rather humiliate her so she'd suffer for the rest of her life than just end her life quickly
No he didn't, it was pretty clear he just felt bad about killing them, that wasjust an excuse.
>A "good" Naofumi would have tried to lecture them about not doing any more bad things and set them free without even stripping their ranks
Says who?
>Just because he didn't let them die that doesn't mean he no longer resents them.
I didn't say he doesn't resent them, I said he's a cuck in the anime.

Is the former king ever seen again in the LN

They're still capped and haven't gotten a class change to fix it.

they were punished as two individuals instead of two heads of a massive internal conspiracy that has basically engaged in open rebellion

I need Jesus after this.

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Alright, let me help you with that. Right before the seal you say?

>queen starts shivering when she mentions that executing Bitch and Trash would be the right thing to do
It's far more likely that Naofumi started having doubts about whether this would really be the right thing to do right there (as well as getting the idea that she might also be up to something) than him deciding to be a good guy [spam normalfag buzzwords here] out of nowhere. It also plays well into his development of trying to stop letting his rage consume him.

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Yes, as much of her breasts as possible

A king who actually never had any political power over the country as Melromarc is a matriarchy and he only married into the family.

>rush through the entire story for no reason
>show nears it's end
>"whoops, turns out we need to make 25 episodes, not 20"
>drag out the fight with the pope to 3 episodes
>show overshoots the perfect place for it's end
>starts an irrelevant arc about EXP grinding
What were they thinking?

He's sort of a recurring character when naofumi & co are at the castle.

Is this acceptable.

Someone has to be scapegoated. The queen is pissed because she has to make the best out of a bad situation. A court in a monarchy is justifying your actions before nobles, who are the courtiers. Domestic strength is more about keeping the support of nobles, and the death of peasants don't mean much to them.

Basically, the punishment has to appear proportional to the crime in the eyes of a bunch of rich guys who would put themselves in the shoes of the rich guy being tried.

FUCK i forgot the picture sorry.

My problem isn't that Naofumi displayed leniency, because he already does that in the source material. My problem is the way they went about showing it in the adaptation. They should have followed the light novel and had him demand execution before the queen talks him down, and then Naofumi realizes that the queen really doesn't want to have to kill members of her own family and he decides to put that desire over his wish to see their heads roll.

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I know right? This shit is trash one of the few things the original has going for it is Naofumi not being some ridiculous paragon of justice but a person with real world feelings and the behavior that comes with that.
>no disgraced noble has ever come back and usurped not just a minor title but entire kingdoms and empires
Dude.
You don't kill people for revenge in this political system. You kill them to remove them from the playing board. 2 dead nobles is worth saving the lives of every single peasant that will die in their machinations.

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100% perfect.

Making a 1:1 adaptation of the manga would've been perfect. But that would've probably paint naofumi in another light that wasn't in the anime

Exactly, in the LN/manga Naofumi is shaping up to be a stoic ubermensch to reign in his hatred.

There are untold reasons why the queen can't kill them.

I like the series a lot but it would be better if there was one change, change the matriarchy to patriarchy and change the queen to the king and myne to the queen
That way the King is the powerful control from the shadows guy and Myne is the queen and then melty is a prince boy
This isnt incel rage I just think it would make more historical sense and lessen the amount of girl characters

I collect these for scientific research.

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The problem is other nobles don't like when the rules change to make killing them an option. Killing nobles is a sure way to earn the ire of other nobles unless you can reach 100% consensus and convince them it will never happen to them.

But austistic min-max xp grinding with cute loli daughterwives is the best part of this show.,

You think Naofumi gives a shit about the political system? He'd rather see them suffer after what they caused him, but it looks like his biggest mistake would be assuming that losing all pride would hurt them at all. If anything, executing the traitors for political reasons should be up to the queen's alley if they weren't also part of her family (and the other reasons from the other source works that people mentioned like making the country look vulnerable).

>historical
You ALMOST had me, but you made it too obvious right here.

Honestly all of that post was stupid and bullshit except for the part where Melty is a trap.

no Im serious I know its fantasy shit but I also thought it should be darker like raphtalia actually killing the slave guy and more blood so the rating'd be bumped up to m18

That's another issue I've entirely, but yes, I agree. The anime feels like it keeps flip-flopping between trying to maintain who Naofumi is from the light novels while simultaneously whitewashing his worse aspects, like they thought he would come across as too edgy for rightfully being wrathful towards two people that have repeatedly made his life hell.

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no wonder she's such a cunt

I wish you queefs would stop doubling down when you get called on it. All good will you earned is fucking gone just because you can't accept that you fucked up.

There's a difference between arbitrarily offing a noble and convicting one in open revolt and killing them.
The difference is nobles don't mind the latter. There is no society in the history of the world where killing someone for treason is a big bad unfair no no.

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This whole episode felt like an apology for constantly shoving ugly noisy little kids in our fucking faces and frankly I accept.

>opinion
>your opinion is wrong

They really fucked up and chose such a strange place to end the anime. Naofumi's public image being righted and redeemed would have been the perfect place to stop and if you watch the episode it has all the tells, like the protagonist walking off into the setting sun while he says his goodbyes. And then it says that there's another episode.

But Naofumi is good, he's just not unconditionally good. He's not going to be good just because that's what Jesus would do. He would like for things to work out, he's not actually especially malevolent, nor does he even put revenge above the big picture.

The anime changes gave us smug Raph, therefore it's the best version. End of discussion.

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Next week user

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>smug
That's horny though.

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I hope you aren't insulting the shield hero's lolis.

BRAVO NOLAN
R
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That's probably to make a S2 hook. "And then Naofumi, with his name clear, set off onto new adventures" probably doesn't allow that as well as whatever happens in the next few episodes.
Also it's way better than what happened to Slime, holy fuck don't just end your show by starting an arc, having a flashback, and then a recap even if your S2 is already confirmed.

All lolis are fucking garbage and deserve to be burned.

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Would society be better if we all got orgasm shocks when lying?

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Yes it was satan.

IMAGINE

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>All lolis are fucking
nice

I understand that, and that Naofumi is fundamentally a good person. However, for Trash and Bitch in particular, his morality goes out the window. If the Queen and Melty wouldn't have been upset over Trash and Bitch's deaths then he absolutely would have gone through with the execution, no questions asked. When their names are changed, he relishes their anguish over it to the point that Raphtalia asks if he's not enjoying himself a little *too* much.

And yes, I know that he eventually makes amends (somewhat) with Trash and works together with him for the sake of the country, but at this point in the story he's not there yet.

That's not where that meme came from fucking newfags.

He’s not exactly been left in a sane enough state by the spear to even consider that.

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Yeah the way she pretty immediately picked that naofumi was trying to save them and her face after was perfect.

no. Everyone would be lying all the time just to get orgasm shocked

A combination of racism’s and the fact that their religion was actually RIGHT about him being the enemy long ago before the waves shoved the shield on the same side.

right you are.

You are historically wrong though. You are describing ideal absolute monarchy, which was not always effectively implemented in in the age of absolute monarchy.

I'm not saying that execution for treason never happened, but that would involve capturing the scapegoat noble in question, cutting a deal with their treasonous clan, or managing to install a new noble to take over their titles, which could be difficult due to loyalties often being closer to a noble than a king, etc. It's the world of realpolitik, not law. Assuming you can do all of this, the reason you execute is to consolidate power. You could often escape execution and end up in some form of exile if all this could not be accomplished or killing you doesn't actually help consolidate power.

I certainly wouldn't ;)

>You are describing ideal absolute monarchy,
No I'm not. I'm describing the entirety of human history.
What do you think Attainment is? Do you think that's a early modern punishment or an ancient and medieval one.
If you fuck up big time you get punished big time. This is not considered tyranny even in the most feudal kingdom.

Not quite. Rebellions happen when the people realize there’s a double standard in how different groups are treated. In the Soviet Union, the loosening of restrictions on the general populace allowed them to see how Party members were treated better than the common people, exposing Communism for the lie it was. In North Korea, not even the Leader’s family is spared from punishment if the Leader deems them a threat.

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But Bitch could leech off Trash's power before and undirectly had royal authority due to that. But now that's no longer possible since Trash lost his authority and was disowned as well and has instead become a BDSM slave for the Queen.
On top of that they are now both in debt to the Kingdom for all the squandered money.

His morality does not go out the window. Revenge/justice is part of morality. Anyways, the point I was making is that the show misses the little nuance there is for his morality, not that he is fundamentally good.

Anyone else just want him to cut the bullcrap already and find the fucking class change hourglass so we can see what Class Raph upgrades to?

Don't read this if you don't want spoilers. Her only motivation is she is a cunt. She is cosmically a cunt. She is a being that has exceeded the realms of mortals and solely travels universes being a cunt to people because she finds it fun, and all of their lives are in her hands at all times, even when she is "dead," because she is an existence next to that of a god.

Those people seemed pretty pissed about their dead loved ones and lost homes. If Trash and Bitch are kicked on the streets won't the angry mobs just kill them anyways? Probably rape Bitch a thousand times over in the town square too.

Next episode probably

Filo upgrades into a Fried Chicken, sports some really tasteless blackface and just run around yelling "SHIIEEEEET" all the time.

Based.

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Super Raccoon obviously

Raphtalia turns into holo, a better girl

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Knowing medieval societies throughout history that is exactly what will happen.

You are wrong though. I just explained it to you. It's only something you do when it helps you consolidate power, and it relies on how nobles react, whether or not they are scared into submission, you bring them on board, or whether is makes them start scheming, which is why noble houses have courtiers in court.

Execution is not based on law, it's based on power plays. If you can't even keep your own family in line, no doubt the nobility will think you weak. I'm sorry, you're just wrong. It was historically entirely possibly to commit treason and get away with it. It was not 100% execution rate. Please don't strawman me and try to claim I'm saying they always got away with it. I'm only establishing precedent that sometimes it didn't work out the way you think it always worked out.

I see no reason why she can't be reDeemed.

>history
You're still at it? Jesus Christ, nobody's going to fall for your shitty weak bait especially if you keep clinging to the part that gives it away.

>raccoon turns into a wolf
Seems legit

...

If anything, she turns into a raccoon dog first and grows two really huge giant enormous balls.

I'm actually kind of surprised people in the audience didn't speak up against Naofumi's clear bullshittery.

>NAMING HER BITCH ISN'T GOING TO BRING ME BACK MY WIFE AND DAUGHTER!!!!

She is the Omnicunt. I dig it.

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Jews and blacks would be extinct if this existed.

You may be surprised to know but there are at least two historyfags on Yea Forums. I'd know because I'm one of them and I'm not the user you quoted.

>historyfags
>mmo isekai with magic raccoons

>well killing her won't do it eith--
>SHUT UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP

>he doesn't know about medieval magic raccoons

So 2 questions,

Do we ever get to see Bitch again?
and
Who do you think was the lucky guy to take her virginity at the school in Faubley she was sent too?

The most unintentionally hilarious scenario of this episode.
>"My wife and daughter are dead because of you!"
>Naofumi comes out
>points at Myne
>"Bitch."
>audience laughs
>that guy with the dead family is just sitting there with a deadpan expression, wondering if this is a fucking joke and what happened to justice

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>magic raccoons
>magic

>he becomes the next to Rise Up

Yes, she's still in spearfag's party. She's also not a virgin, she got raped by Naofumi remember? So she had no virginity to protect and was free to act on her spearfag lust.

>you are wrong though
Look up "Attaint" and "Outlaw". Not only could a medieval king execute a noble he could declare that everyone with their same last name was to be killed and prevented from inheriting anything for the rest of eternity.
You don't know what you're talking about. At all.

>Do we ever get to see Bitch again?
In the anime? yes, in some scenes.
>Who do you think was the lucky guy to take her virginity at the school in Faubley she was sent too?
Probably an old man she used as sugar daddy

In bleach, to kill a character one other character slows time for that character. Time begins to move at a pace where the only thing the character wants is death. It takes his sword a few seconds to reach him, but from the other persons perspective they live a seemingly countless numbers of lives worth of time, all alone, waiting to be free from their mental prison.

Please tell me why a seemingly endless, or better yet an actual endless eternity of isolation is better with consciousness?

My heart

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You are entirely missing the point, and you are wrong. I never said nobles were never executed or even tortured. I was saying it was a political process, not a moral/legal one, and sometimes circumstances were as such that it did not work out the way you claim it would.

Instead you are being retarded and trying to imply I said there was no such thing as punishment because you only state that punishments existed, with to relevance to how they were doled out. For some reason you think a king is not subject to realpolitik and a king actually holds absolute executive power and anything he says goes.

I'm sorry you were born retarded.

They're going to regret not killing the king aren't they? He's probably got some secret super loyal faction that'll try to plot revenge. Especially because he still thinks he was in the right for even his most heinous crime of summoning all 4 heroes. It's always like this.

Bitch is the one who tries to stir up shit, king is basically harmless now

You are close if you switch king with princess.

>writing a specious long post yet again
Should a noble in any time period sin with sufficient severity he was killed. Sometimes he was worse than killed. The vast majority of the time the punishment was considered consummate with the crimes by his peers.
End of story.

SHE CASTS LIGHT SPELLS

>We'll never see best girl animated
is not fair bros.

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What a stupid pile of garbage for incel rejects. And the fact I'm NOT a left-wing shithead feminist should be saying something. Jesus christ how can anyone watch this tripe.

How does Rafu come into existence now without the mad scientist arc?

Ok faggot

Except for literally every time a new house was installed to the throne, mouthbreather.

Is she eve dead?

Are we sure he was actually incompetent? He could have just not given a fuck since with the spear's unique ability it was merely his first playthrough and it would be in his best interest to do whatever the fuck he feels like so that he finds out what to watch for later.
I feel like she's simply genre savvy enough to play Naofumi like a fiddle. The way he gets praise even when he's doing the exact same thing the other heroes did always felt weird in the WN and her being smart enough to prey on his need for validation would be great for manipulation

That was a homunculus swapped with her. I don't think she actually got raped by the king of faubley..

After going to other world everyone got separated and Raphtalia's slave seal breaks.
To find her Naofumi asks some rabbit vassal user for help, and he creates Raph-chan from Raphtalia's hair Naofumi had when he cut her hair (episode 2) and His blood. Now Raph-chan is Naofumi's familiar and can track Raphtalia.

>not orca neesan
super shit taste, user

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>used goods

Trash is still slamming that Queen's womb even after all this shit

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post landwhale form

>liking the hero rapist
absolutely disgusting

>except blah blah
The point has never been their are exceptions or that sovereigns never overstepped their bounds in the view of their own nobility. The point is these punishments existed and for the most part were doled out in a way that the nation itself considered fair.
The Persians used to pour milk and honey into/on their own people until they were infested with maggots and died over the course of a fucking month. Their own people. Persians. Not the Satraps. Persians. Their empire was considered so stable that Alexander copied most of its administrative bureaucracy nearly 1:1 when he took over. The idea that executing a noble or two after a very public breech of their own sovereigns trust would make the nobility squirm is simply ludicrous and ahistoric.

But wouldn't the lawful part of lawful good imply that he'd be all for their execution?

No, that isn't how alignment works. Read the phb before ever discussing it.

youtube.com/watch?v=8YNX2EDr3b8

Sounds to me like you're one of the shittiest paladins to ever exist if you can't even Deus Vult properly.

>hero rapist
d-details?

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>only paladins are lg
Read the phb before ever discussing it.

I'm sorry you're retarded and you don't understand realpolitik and think severity of punishment is the same as political feasibility.

Of course it makes nobles fucking squirm you retard, the point is to make an example out of them, that's precisely why the punishments were that bad. The question is whether or not that is the right political move.

don't know the details, but it seems she cucked Raphtalia in the WN

I didn't say only paladins are LG. I said you would make a shit paladin because you can't even comprehend the idea of trying to uphold the fucking law being lawful.
Execution for the most heinous of criminals is part of the law.

>still trying to discuss alignment without having read the phb

I'm not the guy you are arguing with but you are the idiot here. All you seem to have for an argument is name calling and you aren't even creative with those.

She raped Naofumi one night in the WN.

>Still trying to argue that lawful good doesn't follow the LAW.

Seriously, though, read the phb.

Because he's not actually addressing the issue, like a retard.

tell me tripfaggot, are the gods from Shield Hero like the Celestials from Marvel?

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they are not gods in the LN, but a race that organized all the clashes of worlds because they were bored as fuck. They have advanced technology too

Why do writers do shit like this.

>literally celestials
ok, user

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Going by the WN, they're just people that leveled up so insanely high that mass murder on a planetary scale or killing other gods is the only way they can get exp anymore.

"Gods" as in technologically superior compared to the "primitive" worlds they make clash for shits n giggles. Also immortal.

in the LN its better because they are killable
in the WN Naofumi and Raph had to ascend to godhood status to beat an avatar of evil goddess

Why do I even watch this shit. Sasuga anime.

wait, gods? did they introduce gods in the story? what the fuck?

>"Gods" as in technologically superior
Kind of fun, since we fans fit in that category as well.
We are watching the show for shits n giggles.

Is that true so this entire series is nothing but a chess match between bored super advanced ayylmaos?

"Gods" not actual divine beings in a higher plane of existnece. Then again such feats arent difficult when you got superior technology that might as well be magic.

Yeah they're killable. The ∅ or "0" series weapons are meant to put a stop to that which is eternal(such as immortal beings) and not part of the natural order of things, such as the waves. Which is why those weapons are the only things that can harm those so called "gods"

It's more of a tv show than a chess match, or was.

Why don't they just roll alts?

Based

can you elaborate on that?

Start a new character from lvl 1

Well, the WN the bitch goddess pretty much did that with bitch.

Why are these so many Shield hero threads?

Why we never saw raccoon girl use her ANAL spray during a fight?

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"hype" episode where an antagonist gets theirn comeuppance.

Raccoons are in the Procyonidae family and don't spray musk.

It's an anime that's currently airing. Would prefer another Hunter x Hunter vs [other shounen] thread instead? You probably would. Fuck you. I'm tired of you people, you're one of the main demographics making Yea Forums unbearable.

He also held no political power, he is a king consort, a men that married into a matriachy and thus a figurhead at best.
He might be given soldiers and a few things for protection, but unless influencing his wife he holds no political power.
Also this is a true monarchy, so nobles hold even in a group no power over the queen and the final word for everything is on the queen.

This makes this entire situation even worse as that means that basically majority of the higher ups in the castle and so that did not went with the queen are traitors aswell and accountable for high treason.
It also makes Melty who got ordered by the queen to reprimand the king as the crown princess and queens substitute even more guilty as she did not do so to leash him in, but instead wanted for Naofumi to apologize to trash.

>It's an anime that's currently airing.
I understand that, but just look at current's catalog.
I am okay with daily Shield hero threads but today's there's just too many.

Oh yeah the cunt sister that tried to have me murdered and blamed my friends and comrades for it and that also planed to kill our mother and worse of never stopped doing so lives and gets no real punishment aside from a stupid name.

Do you know about trash's olden days?

"General" threads are heavily discouraged (and by that I mean you just can't call it a general thread in the subject field because people still fucking make them every day, just look at SnK autists or the constant shounenshit spam) which leads to several different threads all spread out.

Good punish for Malty whould have been if they made her a perma slave and handed her ownership to all the people of Melromarc so that she can work to repay all of them for the damage she caused.

Yes, but he is the consort in Melromarc, thus he officialy has no political power.
After the events of his homecountry he became a hero adventure and worked for melromarc that is how he could marry the queen, but now he is just a fool who spoiled his first born rotten to the point he is blindeyeing her trying to kill her mother and sister and he officialy as the consort has no power.

Even so, he's still more or less a deterrent against the demi-human countries from how hard he kicked their asses that they still feel it to this day.

Is Melty the first to get impregnated?

No, raphtalia.

sO WHATS with the scenery of the victorian era musket guys and steam things

Great deterrent that nearly gave all other great nations in their world a major reason for a united war front against melromarc in the time of the waves.
Great deterrent that basically caused people to go through shit similar to what he experienced.

High treason means death, he willingly put a blind eye on events that would have killed his entire family to get revenge on person that is not the person he actualy hates, but just someone that was choosen by the same weapon.
For that he betrayed his country and wife, the wife who gave him a new place in life and family.
sure, but just because something bad happend to you in the past and you did something good after that you can be excused from causing the death and suffering of thousands.

He lost his position as deterrent the moment he became a reason for an even bigger war.

And traitors will always be traitors.

Also do not forget why the demi humans developed like that against the humans.

I don't believe you.

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Except his weapon doesn't even work for him anymore. They could invade any time they feel like it and he would be powerless to stop them.