Why are there no scifi isekai?

That's not in any way Isekai.

He's not an isekai reader, he's an FPS player

Not isekai but yes they do seem to like virtual/cyber future a fair bit.
Space settings seem way less common compared to western fiction.

I know i was just giving an example of Japanese hardish sci fi

I get why people would consider CotS/BotS to be at least thematically similar because it's a fish out of water story, but FOOW stories alone do not an isekai make.

>That one time I was reincarnated as a cybernetically enhanced supersoldier bodyguard for a future kingdom's princess.

>ctrl+f "muv-luv"
>0 results

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that is Seikai

this

mecha is it's own thing

The most hard-sci fi Anime I can think of are Planetes or Sidonia. The upcoming Astra is more soft sci-fi I feel. Manga though, there's a lot more of it. Eat Man, anything by Hoshino Yukinobu, BLAME.

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Wot am Escaflowne and Dunbine?

Isekaishit is written by amateur often underage graphomaniacs at narou so it's natural that they all just copy paste the same tired cliches from fantasy RPGs they have been playing. Writing sci-fi requires at least some education and skill.

I Was Reborn As A Cyborg Assassin For A Genocidal Supercomputer With A Tsundere Complex!!!

The absolute state of Yea Forums
It can't get more pathetic than this

Dogshit

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Why'd you reply?

Why the fuck would anyone want more isekai.

>underage graphomaniacs at narou
Wha's this mean?

because you need proper magic for isekai, otherwise it's just "being stranded in a strange world" and this has been done to death since Gulliver's Travels. And magic and hard sci fi do not mix well.

Pic for advanced boy in a primitive world.

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this.

So you would want a Buck Rodgers the Anime? Not a bad concept.

magic flying mecha good enough for you?

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does this count?

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They are rare but they exist. Usually also sell like shit because they are not dumb enough for average isekai retard.

And it's far harder to write a scenario when some idiot from modern day is useful in the future.

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Would you call Blue as one of those shows?

Gundam is one of the most popular anime of all time and it's far more sci-fi than stuff like Star Wars. Bebop is 3# best selling pre 2000 anime.

Sci-fi in general dropped in popularity a bit after fantasy exploded. It's probably going to return after people get tired of fantasy and real life space industry explodes.

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>because you need proper magic for isekai, otherwise it's just "being stranded in a strange world"
I fail to see why you'd proper magic for isekai?
It IS stranded in strange world!

I hope so. See this vid made me think we're living in the future.
youtube.com/watch?v=ytUygPqjXEc

Japan has plenty of good sci-fi, it's just those writing sci fi tend to be more respectable than to write narou garbage.

ITT: nobody who read the evolution gacha isekai

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Because NEETs are too dumb for that both realistically and fantasy.

Also implying nips isekai author are smart enough to write a science oriented fiction other than schrodinger's cat and what not.

That's just fantasy mecha and not sci-fi mecha. Same as Dunbine and Escaflowne.

You've got Muv Luv Alternative.

Doing Isekai for a Scifi environment is a waste anyway. You can just involve time travel or put the MC in cryo which is easier to explain.

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See this shit started as a lovelive fanfic and went on to win the fucking Seiun Award

>Doing Isekai for a Scifi environment is a waste anyway.
But you just posted an example of it not being a waste. In fact Muv-Luv's Cold War SCIENCE!!! fiction is a great use of isekai with sci fi.

I miss Knights & Magic. It was some good wholesome fun.

Scifi requires a little research and this takes effort. Forget it. The closest thing to scifi you can hope to find in isekai are thinly veiled let's plays & fanfics of scifi video games.

>japs can't write scifi
>but jap work won jap award

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shit taste

>"Bye-bye, Earth! My idol activities here were so much fun!" 4th Hayakawa SF Contest Special Prize 48th Seiun Award (Japanese Short Story Division) 27th Dark Seiun Award (Guest Division) 16th Sense of Gender Award (Future Idol Award) Last and First Idol earned the first ever special prize in the Hayakawa SF Contest, and the first debut work to win the Seiun Award in 42 years! This existential widescreen yuri baroque proletariat hard sci-fi idol story has carved out a new legend in science fiction history! Also includes Evolution Girls, in which some gacha-expert friends race to find the truth of the universe, and Dark Seiyuu, a brand-new space opera about voice actors! Gengen Kusano’s astounding debut collection!
Yeah no.

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>existential widescreen yuri baroque proletariat hard sci-fi idol story

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One can pull Might & Magic and do both.

Are there any politics-heavy isekai out there?

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Suisei no Gargantia, you motherfucking moron

Blame! You fucking retard. It's a native scifi isekai.

Futurama.

It's not isekai.
It's not isekai.

this

>native scifi isekai.

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Doesn't konosuba author write some shitty jap stargate clone now?

If the isekai has more advanced science, what can the MC bring to that world?
Also, LN authors tend to stay away from hard scifi because it would require actual scientific knowledge.

Why does the isekai MC have to bring something special to the world? Or be better than inhabitants in some way?

Generally if the MC is to be the hero, he/she must have some sort of advantage. In many isekai that's usually basic science applied to magic, or some other modern ideas/concepts.

>Generally if the MC is to be the hero, he/she must have some sort of advantage
This seems like artificial restriction. Why do they even need to be a hero?

If the MC is not the hero there is no point for the story to be isekai.

It would be to see how he sees the new world he is in now. How different it is to his own and how he makes his way through it. He could also offer a different and fresh perspective to situations that other characters in the story don't see.

The MC doesn't need to be special or a hero to be good. Look at Subaro from Re:Zero, he wasn't special apart from the fact he would die and restart again from a certain point in the past. He had to make due with what he had to survive in his new world.

Because that would require more creativity.

Because most isekai are built on the premise of the pathetic, bottom-of-the-barrel sef-insert MC that gets praised for being a barely decent person being superior (in terms of abilities, knowledge, ...) to everyone else, and that power fantasy focused conception of isekai is hard to translate into a setting more advanced than our own world.
Oh fuck I just realized Isekai is built on the same principles as imperial colonialism

Isekai is at its best when the person getting isekai'd is special and have something to contribute from his world. What can a modern society human give to an advanced society that they don't have? What can MC contribute? What are his special trait?

>If the MC is not the hero there is no point for the story to be isekai.
Doesn't it just mean MC goes to another world?

>Isekai is at its best when the person getting isekai'd is special and have something to contribute from his world.
This trope getting really boring.
Rather see normal guy have to make it crazy future world. Only self-insert fags would care.

hard scifi is inherently a thinking mans genre and young adult nips want feel good instant gratification

Its only good when the person writing it is genuinely educated in the field
I miss when isekai was about being a piece of shit nobody and crawling up from nothing. Of course that trend never continued very long before the author gary stu'd the shit out of their story

French/Belgians do best scifi comics desu.
I don't know why.

>A failed idol kills herself
>Her best friend is a doctor and swears to use medical science to bring her back to life
>Removes the idol's brain and freezes it in liquid nitrogen
>Suddenly the sun has a massive solar flare
>Rips the ozone layer apart, everyone either fries under the sun's harsh rays or gets cancer
>All electronics fail, including nuclear power plant systems
>Nuclear power plants explode, everything is nuclear wasteland now
>Humanity has no choice but to create genetically modified flying jellyfish and spiders to act as a living ozone layer to survive
>The jellyfish and spiders grow too strong after absorbing the sun's UV rays and they start attacking and eating humans
>Everything is a post apocalyptic nuclear wasteland filled with roving bands of cannibals and monsters
>Doctor has been Frankensteining together a replacement body for the idol this whole time
>She herself has reduced herself to a living corpse in a wheelchair, her failing organs attached to massive life support systems in a trailer
>The idol is now just a brain and a digestive system that floats in mid air. The stomach doubles as an air bladder and the lungs have been grafted on, to help fill it with air
>Together they do idol things
>Idol things means eat people
>Doctor later gets eaten alive by a gang of otaku cannibals wearing waifu t-shirts
>Idol swears revenge, kills humans and takes their body parts to evolve herself
>Becomes a sphere of human brains, surrounded by a network of arms and legs.She rolls around while holding weapons, ripping and tearing humans apart
>Big enough to take down the giant spiders now, gains their body parts
>Uses ability to make spider webs to stick to giant jellyfish and eat them, gaining their body parts
>Now she's like a giant blimp made out of jellyfish, spiders, and humans
>Travels around the world to eat everything and grow bigger

>All humans are now dead, either succumbing to the wasteland or eaten by the idol, the jellyfish, or the spiders
>Idol realises she can't be an idol with no fans
>So she must force the jellyfish and spiders to be her fans
>Spends 3 million years carefully breeding and combining jellyfish and spiders together until she creates a giant neural network that covers the entire planet
>She's basically made Earth intelligent
>Earth sees the idol as a threat and tries to kill her
>The idol is upset that the Earth won't be her fan, so she kills and eats it to become even more powerful than ever before
>But this takes so long that life has started evolving on Earth again
>She decides to carefully guide evolution until the dominant species shows enough intelligence to worship her as idol and god
>Then another solar flare kills them all

>Idol realises that the chance of life occurring on Earth again is too slim, only choice left is to fly into outer space and find aliens to be her fans
>Every alien she meets is either too unintelligent enough to be a fan, or treats her as a monster. Either way, she kills them and eats their entire race and planet
>Eventually the idol becomes this giant fucking eldritch THING of epic proportions, dwarfing planets and stars
>Descends down onto alien worlds, forcing them to worship her as an idol until she tires of them and destroys them
>Eventually, it's time for the heat death of the universe
>Idol doesn't care. If this universe has run out of fans she'll just go to the next universe
>Using her unimaginable elder god like strength, she crushes stars until they form black holes, them smashes the black holes together to form a new big bang and a new universe

>The idol doesn't just travel to the new universe, she BECOMES the new universe
>Even cosmic background radiation is the idol
>She soon spreads her influence to all universes, taking over the multiverse
>And it is now that she finally has a fan
>Herself
>The idol has become everything, and so everything loves herself. She is her number one fan, and so all of existence is too
>This includes this universe
>Our universe only formed to allow the existence of idols
>Our planet only formed so idols could stand on it
>Humans only evolved so they could become idols
>Consciousness is created by idols
>Everything that has, does, or ever will exist does so because of idols
>Even you
>Especially you
>Because you too are part of the idol, and so you too love idols
>By loving idols, you love the idol who became everything
>Because idols create consciousness, you are now the only conscious being
>You must now become the idol
>The Last and First Idol

The Idol Protects.

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REAL sci-fi requires great amount of insight from the author. Trash space opera like SW is NOT scifi and it's exploited and boring more so than fantasy. If it's just SET in the future, but there is nothing really transformative about it, if society is just like our one, which won't be, if technology is just a bit more gadgety or has nothing beyond the old stale memes of robots and spaceships and transporters n shiet then there is no need to bother.
If it's just about people and technology is just hogwash, then just set in in actual fantasy with people have magic instead of technology. Scifi supposed to have actual science in it. It's not a flavor for fantasy, it's not space fantasy, that's garbage. It's supposed to have something more to it, and most authors simply don't have any great vision like this they want to communicate. They want to talk about boring shit like people and morals, which don't need scifi to do so, so they wisely steer clear from actual scifi that is set in the inhumane future and handles questions beyond our world today.

Why do people always bring up Star Wars to diss it when sci-fi is mentioned.

>boring shit like people and morals
???
the fuck you on about, technology and its relationship to people is the premise of every "real scifi" story
if the technology is just for the sake of being so cool then its as you said yourself, space fantasy

Is Dune or Foundation not science fiction?

I, for one, am convinced the space genre is severely underdeveloped, and that more boobie experiments in zero gravity conditions could lead to enormous financial success.

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How is planetes hard sci fi? All it has is some space physics, but nothing else is explained and most stuff just works. Not to mention random nonsense comedy.

Maybe due to its popularity as a sci-fi its the most go-to reference you can get as to what sci-fi media looks like. The mainstream.

Sw is not science fiction, it's just fiction in space.

While I'd agree, it is rather a continuum, and not black and white.

Jesus Christ I get it.
>bring up scifi in any shape or form
>"Um excuse me did you know Star Wars is actually *sniff* Science Fantasy!"
I hope a truck runs you people over.

>Physicist gets isekai'd into fantasy world
>comes to find out that magic is just another form of energy

Most fantasy isekai give the MC some sort of gimmick ability in addition to their advanced knowledge, so taking out the latter wouldn't change much. The ability would simply have to be more blatantly powerful than everyone else instead of using a cop-out of "oh, I know programming so that's why I am the best at magic".

>tfw no stargate anime

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>bring up sci-fi
>bring up SW as bad example of sci-fi
>get told that SW is not sci-fi, so you shouldn't use it as a comparison
>hurr-durr why do I keep getting told that I'm wrong

Unless it's science fantasy, most Isekai authors wouldn't know how to show how much more knowledgeable/enlightened their SI is when compared to the 'natives'. Unless you pull a Stargate and have the people as idiots when it comes to waging wars and AI's are inexplicably evil, the SI is just inferior to the natives and we can't have that in a power fantasy.

But it is sci-fi you autist, just not hard sci-fi.

>how to show how much more knowledgeable/enlightened
Brave New World is an isekai and the savage is my self insert

Its science fiction. Honestly, at times like this I agree with G.Lucas who said that 2001 Odyssey was a mistake, because a movie, whose selling point was looking like what could be built during its release, split the fiction into 'hard because I can believe it' and 'soft because they don't explain how it works in a way that would make the modern audience believe it could be built in the near future'.

>far more sci-fi than stuff like Star Wars
Because Star Wars is science fantasy. Just because it has space ships and space opera elements doesn't make it sci-fi.

The difference is that hard scifi uses technology as a theme piece and soft scifi uses it as a backdrop

Don't forget Rayearth, Wataru, Knight and Magic and more...

What do you mean by theme piece? What would SW would have to do to become 'hard'?

Why not post apocalyptic? Seems like the most obvious way to let selfinsert-kun amaze everyone with knowledge of forgotten technology.

If star wars is not science fiction why is Dune?

Technology isn't important to the story in star wars at all. Its a character driven chosen one story set in the future
Its not about Luke living in a post post scarcity universe, its about him bumbling around to defeat the BBEG

does it end in nuclear warfare?

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Space warfare

dune is space opera, the foundation is sci-fi, but heavily dated.
no space fantasy has actually cool technology. They have magicshit that gets a technobabble cover. It's not the same thing. And I obviously meant people as people today. Star Wars and Dune are the negative examples, nothing in it NEEDS science. Every part of the story could have been transplanted to fantasy. It uses technology, maybe as part of the setting, but not as part of the actual plot. Like the sonic weapons, or the spice. There is no scientific explanation that would give us a relevant concept. For today. It's magicshit.
Foundation has something scientific: "can the actions of people be determined through analyzing lots of statistical data and formulating a mathematical model?" Asimov even uses something what we would today call the buzzword Big Data. Seldon even says that you couldn't have a good enough model to project the actions of an individual into the future. But through amassing huge amount of data they were able to see patterns in the behavior of the masses. And it's a fascinating concept. I love Dune, unlike SW, but it's not built around science. It's good fantasy, but it's just space fantasy, not science fiction. It's built around Good vs. Evil. A Hero and the Villains. And their human values are central in the story, meanwhile the Foundation and actual sci-fis aren't about humans as they are now and their values as they are now, but about the scientific concept itself and how it transforms them. And really excellent sci-fi is daring and transformative, humans won't always stay human, we will lose our humanity down the road, we will become something else, so sci-fi should be intellectual more than emotional. It should be interesting and not the usual fantasy self-gratification and heroism.

>casually ignoring the Death Star, all the spaceships and lightsabers.

Is Hyperion science fiction?

None of those are scientific. None of those are based on scientific concepts. They are vaguely described technological achievements, but not scientific discoveries. The story isn't about how a Death Star would change the world. What a Death Star would mean to people. It's a prop. A floating castle of the Evil Wizard Emperor.

How is the Bene Gesserit genetics work and pre-science different from Foundation's psycho-history and the second Foundation and the Mule?

There is Orguss.

Its not that I ignored them, its that them being technology doesnt hold any significance. Couldve been the death wizard beam and enchanted swords

So, SW will be hard science fiction when most of the runtime becomes about logistics? Mining water from asteroids, defending factories and warehouses from raids, dealing with politics and backstabbery?

What is this, a survival postapoc?
Even Starship Troopers could be easily set in medieval universe, Or vietnam. And Lord of the Rings could be set in science fiction setting.

And Foundation can be easily set in magic setting, because its story and characters do not need the future setting.

There is an isekai where it turns out that the RPG fantasy world is actually a post-apocalyptic sci-fi/fantasy world. Kumo desu ga nani ka

>Couldve been the death wizard beam and enchanted swords

But it isn't.

It's a space station that obviously uses scientific principles to function and a focused beam of energy from a crystal.

Just because it doesn't explicitly tell you how everything works it doesn't mean you can't make the inference that it requires science.

The way technology affects our lives goes beyond the people working at an office desk running numbers. For SW to be hard scifi it needs to be about technology, not just having technology as a substitute for "its magic I aint gotta explain shit"

Foundation could've been about a cult of Roman fortune tellers that secretly traveled to the new world hundreds of years earlier.

because genetics isn't innovative to the story, it's not the concept it wants to introduce to the reader, it's a prop.
Like Dune, borderline, it has nice concepts, not garbage like SW, but it's still space opera, space fantasy. The story is a fantasy epic which has a futuristic setting with interesting scientific props. It's more than SW which has dumb and uninteresting props, but it's written completely differently than a sci-fi.
>Starship Troopers
is not sci-fi at all. It has futuristic setting, again. And Foundation COULD be set in a medieval setting, yes. And it would still be SCIENCE fiction. Not FUTURE fiction, science fiction. Because the whole point of the story is the concept, not the characters, not a heroic storyline, not "universal and ageless" human values (ie. something people think they are today), but it's about the concept. A sci-fi is about the concept, the imagined science, not about a future setting.

What do you mean by 'about technology'? Should it be about R&D? Should it be set from PoV of engineers that built the DS?

At best you'll get a bunch of technobabble, because modern science has no idea how to actually build it.

>sci-fi purists

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That's the difference, it would have been about the way of "fortune telling". Not about the actual fortune. The important part in the Foundation is that someone invented how to tell the fortune, how to predict. And the whole story isn't about the hero who is predicted to do this and that, but about how the predictions changed the world, it's about the fortune tellers.

It doesn't have to directly talk about technology to be about technology. To help make it familiar think of those stories that are themed around modern living and how isolated and lonely it is because of globalization, a product of technology

So, science fiction is not the setting, but quality of writing?

Also, then Dune is science fiction, because its about how the society could develop in the future. And a lot of isekai that are about protag's knowledge changing the world are sci fi too, because it shows the changes in society.

Scifi is both. Genres aren't just a setting, though setting often is a part of it
Like how isekai has grown past just being reincarnated and is now full of shitty tropes. Now in order to be hard isekai you need a "freed" slave companion, crop rotations, a cheat skill etc

>Should it be about R&D? Should it be set from PoV of engineers that built the DS?
Yes. Exactly that would be a sci-fi. Read any short story from the Golden Age of sci-fi. In it, the technology, the concept is what the author is set to explore. Like we could build robots. We could colonize space. What happens if people are trapped in space? Or on a planet? And the people are just props. Their lives, their characters are just tools to explore how those concepts would work. And in space fantasy, the whole thing is the inverse. There is a story about people the author wants to tell and the techno-gadgets are the props, the plot devices to have a story of heroism or something else. It's about human nature or moral values or some crap, or just wants to be an entertaining epic with twists and turns. A sci-fi is about the imagined science, so obviously the story would be about the technobabble.

And this is why good sci-fi is really rare. Because it's hard to write up interesting scientific concepts. There was a great wave of futurism when the concept of robots and space and modern physics was such a novelty for the public that authors found material in abundance. That was the Golden Age of sci-fi. Modern popular sci-fi is like The Martian.

>Also, then Dune is science fiction, because its about how the society could develop in the future.

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>read stories from golden age of sci-fi
>can't find any manga like them
>can't even find manga with large scale space setting, e.g., cutlure, hyperior, etc

So, science fiction can't be character driven.
Must be about ideas the author want to develop, like what the development of the planet destroying weapon can lead to. Or how the AI that could govern a society would work.
Must have technobabble.

So, its still about quality wrting, but with two limitations.

I disagree with scifi autist but he seems to know his shit better than I do. Its my understanding that it can be character driven so long as his motivations have a relationship with technology, i.e someone whos struggling to retain self identity because of being socially pressured to constantly get full body reconstructions

It can be like warhammer or battletech, or just make up something new, where technology degraded to magic. Stuff like ancient uncomprehensible language (japanese) only understood by the mc can also work.

>friendly scavanger group on the outskirts of civilization
>make living by collecting debris from past wars
>said wars destroyed all of the advanced colonies, massivly reducing population, only some unimportant less advanced ones remained
>they depended on imports so those degraded too
>now rely on getting resources from debris and any tech discovery is important, but most people can't even understand language let alone the tech, those who do mostly left civilization to live alone

>crew finds statis pod in good condition, it will be a big haul
>suprise: mc is inside he somehow survived
>instead of selling off they decide to open it
>it gets broken and now the mc has to pay it off by working
>first arc is mc getting accustomed to stuff
>second arc is about finding something big but there is some disaster and it needs to be abandoned to prevent it, with the help of the mcs knowledge
>third arc is trying to exploit mcs knowledge by searching some ruin but only getting some minor quality of life improvement like better tasting plants
>ends with a festival celebrating the new food

I'll even throw in an ova:
>derelict water transporter
>turn on reactor
>melts ice, large pools inside
>pools slowly turn hot, onsen time
>turns out the reactor was overheating and thats why it was left
>have to make escape as the ship is going to explode

Anyone want to hear about the cosmic mobage war isekai?

>A woman called Youko becomes addicted to an evolution and biology-themed mobage called Evo Girls where you roll for outfits and biological characteristics to customize "Girl" characters
>She becomes a whale and eventually mobage consumes her whole life, destroying her health, her work, and her finances
>It's all for naught when she gets trucked.
>After dying, she wakes up in a mysterious darkness. A mysterious voice commands her to roll, and when she does a gacha rolls and grants her a few N rarity basic ceullular component cards, including mitochondria and cell membrane, to become a simple unicellular amoeba Girl in the world of Evo Girls
>After wandering around the ocean using basic chemotaxis while engulfing other bacteria who are themselves Girls, she discovers that she can gain gacha points from killing and consuming other Girls
>Feeling that she needs some SR and SSR rarity cards to evolve further, she goes off to search for the legendary premium gacha.

>After fighting for her life and surviving against a multicellular Girl, she discovers the premium gacha only to find that she lacks sufficient points for a 11 pull
>The best way to gain lots of premium gacha points is to spend her own health, lifespan, and existence to purchase gacha points
>With no other choice, she whales and spends her own lifespan to pull the SR components necessary to become a multicellular organism.

Can talking about the fine details of creating spells and rituals count as technobabble?

>Youko continues the cycle of murdering and eating other Girls and pulling the gacha, until she eventually evolves into a caterpillar-like organism with an exoskeleton legs and basic photoreceptors.
>Along the way she runs into and adds two other Girls as Friends, since they can gather points more efficiently by supporting each other to kill and consume other Girls and by sending Likes to each other.
>One day she also rescues an electric-producing Girl from dying, who tells her about the Girls gacha where it is rumored that you can roll to bring dead Girls back, and that she plans to roll the Girls gacha to pull her dead Sensei who helped her in the past.
>Eventually they all roll the components that they need to evolve from ocean-dwelling creatures and finally set foot on land.

>Once they reach land, the cycle of fighting and killing other Girls to gain gacha points continues, only more complex and dangerous now.
>Two of Youko's friends have evolved into a symbiotic pair where one of them is a massive dinosaur-like Girl with a hydrogen gas-filled ballast tank shell on her head to counteract her massive body weight that can also be used as a flamethrower, and the other minmaxed to use all her bioelectricity for electrolysis to produce oxygen for herself and hydrogen for her friends.
>The third friend is now a flying bug-like organism that swoops around with Youko on her back, who stretches her neck out super long and bites Girls' heads off with poisonous super mandibles.
>Using these traits, they continue to hunt other girls in a pack and gain points to keep rolling

>One day they encounter a Girl who has evolved herself into an organic shinkansen of death that runs around at high speed waving knife claws and shooting bone missiles and cluster bombs and making fucking choo-choo noises.
>The hydrogen dinosaur Girl gets absolutely destroyed and killed by the living shinkansen before the electric Girl manages to electrocute it to death.
>Flying Girl gets massively pissed and tries to murder electric Girl for failing to save dinosaur Girl, and is killed by the Youko instead, but not before electric Girl is left on the verge of death.
>Youko absorbs electric Girl into herself and swears to find the Girls gacha to roll for electric Girl's Sensei, as her last wish.

>Left alone, Youko continues to hunt other Girls and evolve herself solo as a giant modular multi-segmented organism.
>Evolves a rocket engine for flight by filling her excretory tubes with hydrogen and oxygen from electrolysis and exploding it for propulsion to outfly and outspeed other Girls
>Evolves mortars and EMP bombs by shooting explosive electrified excrement out of her anus to destroy other Girls en masse for consumption
>Evolves nuclear pulse propulsion by absorbing lead to line her organs, splitting her brain into multiple internetworked units and eating uranium to create a nuclear reactor in her guts
>At long last, Youko finally launches herself into space with her nuclear pulse propulsion anus, searching for the legendary Girls gacha.

How is it sci-fi? Even Lucas said it is not.

>Once in space, Youko continues hunting and eating space Girls
>Evolves into a 5km long space whale covered with carbon filament ceramic exoskeleton, laser nuclear reactor gut engine powered by liquid hydrogen and huge wings for heat radiation
>After years and years of this, she hears rumors of the Girls gacha orbiting a gas giant in another star system
>Begins a centuries-long solo journey into deep space in search of the Girls gacha
>After centuries of isolation in deep space, she finally arrives at the legendary Girls gacha
>She's been saving her points for this gacha, and it's time to roll
>trash roll
>trash roll
>trash roll
>nothing but trash rolls
>millions of rolls later she's out of points, and there is no option left but to whale.

>Youko didn’t hesitate. She immediately whaled. What value did her life hold? Her mind had long since died. Not the day of the accident and her reincarnation, but the day her friends died. Death had led to Youko’s rebirth, and death had led to her dying once more.
>Before coming to this world, in her time spent under the control of the mobile game, Youko had been dead. But meeting friends had brought her back to life. And then Youko had died once more. The only thought remaining in her mind was to save her friend.
>Her health, lifespan, volition, and existence drained away.
>trash roll
>trash roll
>trash roll
>nothing but millions of trash rolls as her entire existence is whaled away
>Finally, when the last piece of her existence is spent, the universe seems to warp.
>And then Youko realizes the truth of the soul, and the truth of mobage.

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>Souls are linked to the 11th dimension.
>Consciousness and awareness of the world is made possible by the soul comparing its universe to other universes via the 11th dimension
>By searching other universes for infinite possibilities, culture, science, logic are all made possible by the soul, therefore humans with souls have free will and can escape determinism, unlike inanimate objects like computers which have no soul and are bound by determinism.
>When the soul was born, evolution, a basic system bound by determinism, recognized the threat created by the soul as rendering evoltution obsolete
>In order to survive, evolution itself evolved.
>Dinosaurs evolved into birds. Monkeys evolved into humans. What did evolution evolve into?
>Evolution evolved into mobage.

>If the gacha is birth, and the normal and premium gacha are asexual and sexual reproduction, then whaling is the process of spending free will to bring about evolution
>By evolving into mobage, evolution is able to drain free will from souls, luring them in with the promise of success and taking all their free will away
>By playing mobage, souls lose their free will and determinism returns to ruling the universe
>At a speed unanticipated by the operating companies, mobage eventually consumed all of society and all of humanity, and humanity itself evolved into Girls, whose right to exist and evolve was determined by rolling the gacha, creating the world of Girls that Youko found herself in.
>This is the truth of Evo Girls.

>The souls, however, created a countermeasure to mobage - backing up souls of the dead in the 11th dimension with their free will energy intact
>by backing dead souls up in the 11th dimension, the souls can accumulate free will energy to resist the mobage.
>Youko, as a soul who had been consumed by mobage more than any other, was chosen as a soul to be reincarnated back into the main dimensions to fight the mobage.

>Linear time does not exist in the 11th dimension.
>By using free will, we can create a future that does not exist, unlike a deterministic universe without free will where all points in time exist simultaeously.
>In the deterministic world of mobage, travel to the past does not create paradoxes.
>Using this, Youko travels back into the past and reincarnates again as a different Girl, undergoing adventures and building up a little free will energy before dying
>She repeats the cycle of reincarnation millions, billions, trillions, uncountable times, reincarnating as a different Girl each time before dying, including having once reincarnated as her friend's Sensei
>At last she embarks on her final reincarnation - a drop from the Girls gacha itself.

>As the gacha is pulled for the final time, Youko uses all her accumulated free will energy over infinite time loops to hack the gacha and change the drop rates for a guaranteed God Rarity pull
>receives GR card - God Rare Card - Graviton Body
>Gravitons, the one particle aside from the soul able to access the 11th dimension.
>Using her new body of gravitons, Youko manipulates gravity and destroys all mobage at every point in space and every point in time simultaneously, collapsing them into micro black holes.
>All mobage are destroyed, having now never existed at all
>Free will is released
>The shackles of determinism are ended
>As Youko's timeline fades, the true future begins
>In a new multiverse, where mobage no longer control the people's souls
>All are reborn into the new world of possibilities where man is no longer slaves to the gacha

Imagine being so angry about your shit gacha rolls that you write a 100 page long shitpost about it and con a respectable sci-fi publisher like Hayakawa into printing it for you.

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It just looks to me like a repeat of 19th century books about traveling to the moon in a cannonshell, flying coal powered battleships, handheld doom beams, giant ants, etc.

All of those are about the idea, the characters are basically props that go through the motions and there's quite a bit of technobabble.
John Carter of Mars was probably as 'hard' as it could go for science fiction. Well's books too..

If science fiction is about showing the world of the future as seen by the author at the time, then why not say so. Why even have all those ' hard. soft, science fantasy, magitech, etc, outside of marketing tags?

I just checked and JNC is actually releasing it in print in July
The madmen

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Star Wars wasn't conjured up in the 40s. Nothing he portrays there had any kind of novelty at that point. You wouldn't call steampunk today sci-fi, would you? The whole point is the focus of the author. Wells cared about actually what the future might bring. Lucas called his sword first laser sword then was convinced to change it to light saber and then "plasma n shiet xd".

It'd surely be more sci-fi than all the space operas listed here.

Star Wars is basically Flash Gordon. Even the light sabers are photon blades. Its science fiction, but from the previous cycle, if you get me.

What are they hoping to accomplish by this?

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hey there

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put like this it's like science and tradition. At some point all the clothes the Amish wear today were novel, innovative and the new heights of fashion before. One can even argue that the whole concept of magic and myth-like elements were the sci-fi of the medieval and classic era, when people made concepts like the soul, elements, homonculus and for them it was genuine philosophy about the real world.
So even fantasy is sci-fi, only the sci-fi of times long gone by.

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Good luck to them if they want to submit it to the Hugos,

>The short answer is, “you can’t”. If the Hugos were judged by a small panel, as is the case with some other awards, then you could send your work to the award jury. But the Hugo Awards nomination process is open to every member of the current and previous Worldcon. That means that the “jury” often consists of thousands of people. You don’t want to send your work to all of them, even assuming you could.

>There is no submission process for the Hugo Award. You do not have to register your work with anyone to be eligible. There is no submission or entry fee. The Hugo voters are good at finding and nominating good works, and do talk among themselves, so word spreads. There are also third-party web sites where people can make recommendations for Hugo Awards. Some of these sites are listed on the sidebar at the right. (Listing here does not imply official endorsement. If you know of a site that accumulates recommendations, let us know so we can add it to the list.)

No you don't
just have the MC get transported to an alternate universe via teleporter experiment

They exist but they got abandoned by everyone

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>Scifi supposed to have actual science in it.
kek

>Evolution evolved into mobage.
My fucking sides.

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This won an award?

No, this won the Seiun award. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiun_Award
It's not a meme award by any means, it's quite a serious and prestigious award, so it's all the more mindbending that a LoveLive NicoMaki fanfic with the names swapped managed to win it.

The award winner was the one about the idols, the mobage gacha was just one of two other short stories bundled with the idol short story in the published collection.

it's not sci-fi just because the MC uses a gun

>Nuclear power plants explode
Stopped reading here.

What is Chernobly.

They didn't actually explode, they just melted down. It's a greentext what are you expecting?

What are you talking about comrade? RBMK does not explode.

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Nuclear plants don't "explode" like nukes because they don't have highly enough enriched uranium in them. At most they meltdown and leak some radioactive shit into the environment.

Chernobyl was a steam/hydrogen explosion that blew off the roof and threw radioactive crap everywhere. It wasn't a fission event

>started reading xianxia
>kinda sorta deviating into a xianxia-litRPG sidepath too
help me

Read pic

>None of those are scientific

Neither is half of the crap in Star Trek yet people call it sci-fi.

A Princess of Mars

I would kill to see an anime adaptation

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This and Three Body Problem series are the best first contact stories I've read. 3BP author seems like a weeaboo since he unironically included a Yang Wenli quote in the second book and then the third one had a katana swinging android woman who does tea ceremony.

I just realized this is an isekai complete with a visit from truck-kun.

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Its whole fucking setting is sci-fi. With space ships and lasers and robots and stuff.

God if only we could get any good adaptation of Three Body Problem at all, the chink film sounds like it's being run into the ground.

>literally fucking samurais with magic powers, but in space
>but muh space ships tho

So the nuclear power plant exploded and made the surrounding area a radioactive wasteland yes?

More like burned. And no, it's not really a wasteland like after a nuke or something. There's plenty of life there, just radiation level is harmful for humans.

Amazon is reportedly making a TV series. We will see what they do with it.

Thats a bit dishonest.
One of the big things about Star Wars is how its about a galactic war. You could have a sorcerer cabal flying around destroying isles or city states, but its not possible for that to reach the same scale.
Which is ironically one of the things the writings of movie 7+ has completely forgotten. The moment you start treating it as DnD in SPACE, is also the moment you lose most of the franchises core pillars. There is a lot more flaws to the movies than that, a pretty long list, but it adds to the pile of why it leaves a sour distaste to watch it.

Fiction doesn't have to be character driven either.
The crux of Science Fiction is that if you have a short story of some sort, or a novel: You can get away with just having a technology, and trying to explore how the tech impacts/explores society.
If its longer, most authors are not good enough to keep it about that.

Pulp stories from the same period are similar in length, and end up exploring encounters and how that impacts society/tribe/person.

>Is basically
Thats a dishonest weasel word to ignore how things work.
I.e a sewing machine is essentially a electric car
Oxygen is essentially a heroin
A book is essentially its adaption.
Simply put Star Wars is not Flash Gordon because the end production values and effort is a lot higher for the visual movie medium. Just like how adaptations are not their source, because its different once adopted into a new medium.

Is there isekai that has vancian magic?

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100% this, it's tolkien fantasy in space which is part of why I never liked it.

But Tolkien is good.

I don't even know if that's true since I've never bothered to read his books (not a fan of western fantasy personally), but surely you can at least understand that not everything copied Tolkien is good, right?

Sci-fi just isn't popular. It's quite literally the genre of nerds. Normalfags will only get interested in "weird things" if they appeal to normalfag brains, ie. brainlet plots and explosions/sex. Lord of the Rings is generic good vs evil, so is Harry Potter on top of being literally written for children, Game of Thrones is just gore and sex.

I mean look at Star Trek, the quintessential scifi show. It barely had any action. TNG was basically just philosophical circlejerk and DS9 was political drama. The premise of the show has always been about exploring futuristic themes and ideas. How is that shit ever going to appeal to a normalfag?

Sci-fi can only get popular if it conforms to the normalfag demographic, see: mecha anime, Star Wars ("""sci-fi""""). But the majority of sci-fi does not do so because if they wanted to write generic hero tales why would they pick sci-fi? The setting doesn't even lend itself to it, for example there are no "powerlevels" when everyone uses laser guns, those were introduced with mechas, which do not operate on scientific principles (see?), and at best it's just special prototypes and near-mythical piloting abilities that somehow allow one to 1v50, and at worst they quite literally operate on magic.

Because the only purpose of Isekai is trashy wish fulfillment

*not everything that copied

What makes the short story Arena sci-fi?

Nobody mentioned Now and then,here and there?Really 170 posts and all of you are brainlet newfaggs.

is not native isekai since he travels to unexplored worlds, all the worlds or planets are engulfed into the massive extructure tho.

Are you legit retarded?

Space settings like Star Wars or 40k can do everything generic fantasy can and 100 times more.

Not a fan of space ships, eh? Guess androids are not up your alley either.
> muh magic
Go fuck yourself with the indistinguishable technologically enhanced dildo. You do not write the dictionaries with the meaning of the word Science Fiction. You might not like it but Star Wars IS exactly science fiction. Hard, soft, limp, good, bad - whatever. It's a FACT and you can only bitch about it.

How are you going to add HAX and make MC overpowered when the target culture/tech is much more advanced and there's no magic?
Being a living fossil, toured around future museums as an exhibit is not fun and there's not much you can do unless you intentionally gimp/break the future to the degree some random schmuck from the present would be actually useful somehow.

Yes.

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Muv-Luv Alternative is a good example.

Space isekai do exist but are rather rare.

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Literally nothing says that sci-fi can't have magic. Look at Mahouka or Star Wars.

>Lord of the Rings is generic good vs evil
The TRUE HORRORS of Industrialization, and how Warfare affects Man isn't particularly generic.
LOTR is what people rail against, only to turn out to be preaching with the choir, always.
>Game of Thrones is just gore and sex.
If GoT was just Gore and Sex, it wouldn't be popular.
Since there is a more than simple Gore and Sex to get anywhere on TV. Including production quality, and not filming it minute by minute with no planning.
Meanwhile the last 2 seasons had Gore, Production Quality and Sex, but it lacked the rest of the package to make it good.

The other big problem with your rant fails to account for WHY daytime TV soap has little to no uninfluenced on culture, despite being a extremely mass consumed medium.
The definition of soap here also includes stuff like niche netflix stuff with mass marked appeal, that never gets anywhere.
You suddenly have 4 lines of text at the end essentially ranting and railing against the sky, which can be translated to "If production quality is bad, why can't people watch it for the source material they never read?!"

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Honestly it would be far more entertaining being like Futurama where the MC is an absolute dunce in the era they've been transported to.

Hard to self-insert as that though.

>Using her new body of gravitons, Youko manipulates gravity and destroys all mobage at every point in space and every point in time simultaneously, collapsing them into micro black holes.
Based

If you remove the boron/aluminium (depending on the plant), a nuclear plant can easily reach critical mass and detonate much like a bomb. In fact, most nuclear bombs just remove the boron chain on the last step of arming to detonate it.

> MC go to fantasy world with an infinite boom stick

>How are you going to add HAX and make MC overpowered when the target culture/tech is much more advanced and there's no magic?
First drop the requirement that the MC has to be OP savior of the world. He's just a dude that went to another world.
>Being a living fossil, toured around future museums as an exhibit is not fun
The future world(s) can be so chaotic and multicultural/multispecies that a man from another world is not anything notable beyond conversation topic.
Then it's story of a guy from our world adapating and living in this crazy and very alien(to him) society.

>good example.
>they need a teenage gamer to tell them, that clunky mech controls getting their people killed left and right need some improvements despite their overall tech level being much higher
That's what I meant about gimping the future.

Is that the one where the MC becomes the space battleship?

>First drop the requirement that the MC has to be OP savior of the world.
Wouldn't be a proper isekai then, would it?
I'd be glad if that happened but I won't hold my breath, looking at current trends.

No, net really. Weapon-grade uranium is enriched to 90%+ state while plant fuel is only few % and simply don't have enough of it to reach critical mass. Any sane reactor construction (which is all of them) is made specifically to prevent it reaching criticality under any conditions.

the control system design philosophy wasn't a matter of tech level but priorities, they had a heavy focus on stability and giving the pilot as much fine control as possible which was the orthodox thinking and seemed to be upheld by evidence. Yuuko points out all the flaws in his idea to add more macros and automation taking away flexibility that had already been wargamed, and in the end it only worked because of the computing and AI improvements she was already developing as a part of Alternative IV. So it's not like he just waltzed in and solved all their problems himself, he just gave their mad scientist an inspiration. (incidentally the XM3 system was described as being really hard on the mechanical joints and gave the maintenance people fits)

but other things too like when he conveyed our world's Yuuko's revolutionary quantum computing theory which she was inspired by playing a PS2 game.

Have the MC either come from an even more advanced civilization, or maybe arrive in some ship or station left over from a lost ancient species.

I want isekai to go back to just be mc changes worlds not reqire all cliche tropes.

Because it's the farthest future while SW is a galaxy far, far away.

Read what he wrote again user, this time slower so your brain can process what he wrote.

Isekai will die, Sci-Fi will return to glory including future WW3 and post-apocalyptic anime coming back to the limelight.

>future WW3 and post-apocalyptic anime
this feels so mundane compared to other sci-fi

i understand that the basic premise of most isekai is that the MC has some kind of advantage (advanced future knowledge for some, or broken stats compared to everyone else, or a 'respawn' ability' but there are plenty of ways to apply these most of these things to scifi. (Especially the 'respawn' thing.) Hell, you can even argue the "different era knowledge" thing by way of fucking Demolition Man if you really wanted to. the only real reason it isn't happening is because fantasy is currently the more popular setting & we need to wait for it to get old to see other concepts get explored again.

Technically he's not wisked away to another world but the future of his own.

The original Sci-Fi isekai. MC gets transported into a body of a prince or an interstellar empire in the far future. He gets to command a fleet of starships in battle, win the war, personally defeat space Hitler, and win the love of a princess from another space kingdom who was going to have an arranged marriage with the original owner of his body. Then at the end he returns back to the old and boring XX century.
In the sequel he returns back to the future, this time in his own body.

There was a fun scene where a psychiatrist from our time attempts to explain the whole MC's future adventure as a delusion and an ultimate wish fulfillment fantasy. Ironical if you consider the whole modern isekai genre.

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there is one
no not "tech in fantasy world" actual one set in sci-fi world

novelupdates.com/series/unparalleled-path-reincarnated-as-the-ai-for-a-space-battleship/

Narrative wise it means the author is then using the world as a crutch rather than creating a good story. A bumbling idiot from our time makes explaining all the science with walls of text easy and passable. Beyond his initial idiocy the MC then has no purpose in the story for being isekaid because his plot arcs are no better than a native from the setting.

Post top tier isekai protags

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Even ones with a possibility for something similar don't use it properly.

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Sci-fi "isekais" are just shit like "man gets swallowed up by wormhole and fucking finds himself in some unknown region of space", or "man gets abducted by aliens". They don't usually need some magical "new world", when there's literally a whole universe to contain new and exotic locations that we don't know about.

How is it ironic user?

You moron, you understand nothing. The basic premise of isekai is that a common person gets magicked away into some exotic fantasy land. Nothing to do with having some kind of advantage.

It can be classed as sci-fi. Soft sci fi or space fantasy or whatever

>Even Lucas said it is not
Lucas is a moron.

There is a difference between "Isekai as a concept" and "Isekai as a cliche genre"

Isekai isn't a genre either, retard.

>MC gets abducted by aliens and teaches them about crop rotation

i was wondering: would the wizard of oz count as isekai?

Sure.

why are there no cute girls doing cute things isekai? where the protag gets reincarnated into a moeblob experiencing slices of life?

Which raises the question what is the oldest example of isekai in fiction?

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Because Sci Fi is harder to write and they can't just rip off Dragon Quest

The chosen one
though that removes the average joe feeling

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Or like something I remember reading once where humans taught aliens agriculture instead of hunting and gathering.

Why can't we just go back to just having proper sci fi and fantasy without the need for some rando slacker from our world. What happened to people to make them incapable of empathizing with someone who isn't themselves.

There is plenty of non isekai stuff out there. And isekai is slowing down.

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Isn't that bookworm one exactly that? And it's the most popular isekai novel now.

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I think it's the titles that bother me the most.

he has a really tight ass

Oh shit I picked that up at a used book event a while back. I hadn't planned to get anything but I checked the cover and it said something like "a million burning balls descended on earth. We're sending a vampire, a guy with 17 personalities, and a dude with one leg in the afterlife to figure it out" and decided I just had to get it.
I still haven't gotten around to reading it though. Is it any good?

I think it's the best post-2000 sci-fi book out of everything I've read. You should definitely check it out

also where is the isekai where the MC is a girl?

>How are you going to add HAX and make MC overpowered when the target culture/tech is much more advanced and there's no magic?
MC is the first trial subject of psionic genetic enhancements on top of already top of the line physical augmentations, and he awakens to matter manipulation. Done.
Even if I think the idea of isekais needing OP protagonists is retarded

How much infodump does the death wizzard beam needs to be considered sci-fi?
If sperging about new tech and their impact on society defines a sci-fi work, aren't almost all isekai sci-fi?

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There are plenty in novels and manga. As for anime, there's upcoming Bookworm, Bakarina, Average loli, and Kumo.

>MC is the first trial subject of psionic genetic enhancements on top of already top of the line physical augmentations, and he awakens to matter manipulation. Done.
I can see vast fetish potential in this. Such as breast expansion and ass expansion.

You should go to Japan and make tens of hundreds of dollars as a LN writer

The future is a dystopia where everyone has mental limiters placed on them to prevent deviant behavior.

MC doesn't.

Pretty good discussion, you're just a faggot

Delete this, no one else has to know about that

There's a mangakek who I won't namem who's wrote two sci fi manga with different elements, and then one isekai.
His only successful one was the isekai, sadly, so that shows you the industry

still mad as fuck at no s2
such a cool concept

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Because any hack Narou """""writer"""""" can conjure up some faux-medieval Dragon Quest ripoff of a setting.

But it takes at least some degree of skill to write about a futuristic/sci-fi setting you need to come up with.

>22 years ago, a huge alien artifact is found on a construction site by a worker named Yotsuga. The foreman orders that the artifact be broken apart to avoid delays. As Yotsuga walks towards the dumpsters to dispose of a small piece of the artifact, the world splits into two. In one world, Yotsuga tosses away the piece and the artifact is destroyed. In the other world, Yotsuga keeps the artifact, leading to the discovery of extraterrestrial technology that changes history.

Is this isekai?

Also Ifurita was my first waifu.

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Instead of humans everywhere, they find a planet of elves, a planet of dwarves, etc. All with the expected low tech level and magic. Humans being the ones cutoff from the gate network for thousands of years. And it was ancient humans who built and created the different species.

sci-fi = actual tech explained and part of the plot
cyberpunk = advanced tech and shitty future but the tech is not always the point of the plot

There's tons of them but not translated or popular.

If it's assumed that the MC starts off in a world similar to ours which is a 'science' themed world then how would you know it was Isekai and not simply the MC being transplanted to a different time/place in his world?

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Dual Parallel was fun, but desperately needed more episodes, or at least more screen-time for D.

May cause existential crisis.
I wouldn't say it's good or you should read it. It not one of those book, but instead it's interesting and disturbing.

There is "Me, a Genius? I Was Reborn into Another World and I Think They've Got the Wrong Idea!," an isekai that's sci-fi.

Well I can't insert into 99% of MCs since I'm not a whiny little bitch who constantly questions himself so this doesn't really affects me. I think MC material should generally be improved from whiny highschooler.

Get the isekai out just bring back full on science fiction and bring out more war anime stuff. I want me some World War 3 anime.

Kami wills it.

Checked.
Sci-fi for the Blood God!

>WW3 anime, post apocalyptic anime series focusing on female soldiers in the first time understanding about war.

Based.

what the fuck is shadowrun asshole

This.

Fuck, thanks for reminding me of what we never got.

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Not entirely correct. Most use it as a crutch, but that doesn't mean it's defined as a crutch.
Take Grimgar as an example: The whisking away into another world is an important plot point and also not used as a platform for infodumps.
In Trash of the Count Family the isekai bit is how the MC has hax-level information on certain events. His use of the information quickly causes reality to alter slightly from it, and eventually time progresses past where he read until. I'd argue that other methods of him obtaining this information would not have made the story better.

Reading all this makes me want an Isekai with standard transported/summoned to another world complete with magic, elves, demon kings, medieval society etc2 but the person summoned is a cyborg soldier with micro nukes, plasma rifles, nano weapons, etc as his standard loadout.

YU-NO is literally sci-fi isekai and it's been that way since 1998

Probably, you can't have your bland self-insert be an all-powerful genius for knowing basic information in a world where he's clueless about literally everything
The closest you'll get is something like Demolition Man or Futurama, where being a primitive caveman from the past gives you a physical/determination-related edge over the weak pansies of the future

>A pilot and his mecha from the future gets transported to an isekai fantasy land
It's such a simple concept how has it not been done before? I want to see a semi-realistic giant robot fight against golems and dragons.

>tfw no Atlas mech burning holes through medieval infantry formations
>tfw towards the end of the story the mech gets magic'd into scrap leaving the protagonist in a very precarious position with his own kingdom

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>use magic, isekai material and what remains of the Atlas to create Atlas 2

Gundam is in many ways actually softer than SW when it comes to science since the newtype stuff is a major plot point equal to Force while the story itself is a very basic war drama on Earth and its surroundings. SW at least has the Death Star as one of its plot points and happens on all kinds of planets with different races.

The story in original Macross isn't realistic or particularly hard, but it's heavily based on familiar scifi concepts (space travel, communication with extraterrestrials, origin of humanity) which is why it's my favorite of the old mecha series.

Or instead of a single powerful MC, bring a long range colony ship through with all the technology needed to setup an independent world. With all the assorted weapons too for those who interact with the local population directly.

I'd like this idea more if they were simple colonists expecting to go to an uninhabited world but their wormhole collapses while they're going through it so they get ejected out to an unknown world like in Gargantia. They wouldn't really have any weapons aside from some sidearms that their small police/security force uses and mining equipment. And since their ship is heavily damaged and none of the supplies and materials they sent beforehand are on this planet they need to work with the locals to survive.

Mining lasers vs magic.

If you are going to have a damaged ship, that gets closer to a novel series where it's the descendants who deal with natives. I'd rather start directly with building a small interstellar civilization, with some uplifting of the natives. Let the local gods deal with no longer being relevant.

I saw it in some thread a while ago, it was a book of ~200 B.C.E.

>no story about a time traveling terminator genociding elves

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Here's a scifi isekai proposal: bring a normal guy from a fantasy world into a futuristic scifi world like ours. Maybe they still have magic powers from their world or they're just some dumb medieval dude just thrust into some technological Game of Thrones shit.

Time traveling to different periods of the past to find out what happened to the elves from legends, who always had small numbers anyway. While there, he has sex with most of the females every time. Each time he gets closer to the present, they strangely look more and more human.

I'm kind of assuming they'll have the technical know-how to at least reproduce some of the technology. I mean, if you're going to send a colony ship with a bunch of people to a new world, it only makes sense you have some fairly talented engineers.

I just think it would be less interesting of the Sci-fi group of characters could do anything they wanted because of how strong they are.

Do you remember the name of it? That sounds incredibly interesting.

It’s strange to me to see the love of this franchise still alive. Are you the same bro that always posts about it?

Then Hunter X Hunter is also Isekai with Gon leaving is Island ?
Jinto received proper abh education even though he did not interract with any abh prior to the show, he also have a status in his own world and a past that plays a role in the story.

I have this idea for an Isekai in which a fanasty world gets invaded by a multiversal cyperpunk style mega corporation.

>dingdingdingding
CTRL+F and only one fucking result for the best isekai rape and forced birthing scifi series

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It's hinted that in Overlord the Dragon Lords are allied with/have a deal with the megacorps that run future Earth.

Sci fi isekai would mean robowaifus, wouldn't it?

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There are some isekai that could have an arc sending them to more advanced worlds too, but those authors rarely seem to try it.

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Why was the other fucking thread deleted?

Probably too much like a template/recommendation thread.

How about this a captain of a very powerful military starship saw his son get transported through a portal to another realm and thus chase after him and he and his crew find themselves in a endless sky dimension filled with floating islands, giant magic power flying gallons and ironclads. the Military starship is basically the strongest thing in this setting thanks to advance technology like nukes and shields, so the captain and his crew ends up doing more damage to the empire that rules that realm then his own son who is suppose to be the chosen one.

Why is the translation 2 chapters behind?

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Read The Wandering Inn.

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best boi coming through

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That's not William tho

Tank Titties or Cat Tats?

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Shiki and Ema will be even busier when Makoto, Tomoe, and Mio begin to work on the first hundred children. Then they will lose some of their workers when some are given additional duties.

Wait this happens in pic?

In one battle weapons and enemies from multiple worlds are summoned against him, including at least one nuke I think, although I need to check that chapter again. That means he could potentially visit those worlds too.

I need to catch up on the manga damn.

Wasn't this kinda scifi?
>last update 11 months ago
nevermind then.

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It's not Japan's fault they don't get translated.

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The stupid FPS player isekai has something like that but it costs a lot of resources to use and he generally gets by with regular guns, there's a pretty cool scene where he busts out power armor to clear out a dungeon
I agree with you though, ever since playing fucking Rifts in middle school back in the day I've loved sf vs. fantasy combat stuff, there's not enough out there that scratches that itch properly

FUCK LHScans, they destroyed that manga.

It will be years before the manga gets that far. Maybe we will have another WN chapter by then.

Or a Factorio-like story isekai, where the MC is (magically) transported to isekailand instead of crashlanded, wants to have nothing to do with the savage isekai inhabitants there and his objective is to create a scientific warp portal to get out of there, but gets constantly harassed by the isekai kingdoms and demon lords because of the pollution/magical imbalances his devices and machines constantly make.

You know what I just realized? The scifi isekai with an overpowered everyman protagonist is Idiocracy
A manga ripoff of that would be wild

Fuck I want more of this for best dragon.

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>typical haremshit
>they come in a wide variety of height, build and boobage

>reverse harem shoujoshit
>they all just look almost the same
every fucking time.

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This one's got a manga so hopefully it'll probably get translated eventually.

Though the tags for it on novelupdates include "Harem" and "Cooking". I feel a little more unsure about this now.

I can't see why it wouldn't

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It's total shit. The manga art is hideous as well.

I assume people usually don't write scifi isekai because the scale is simply too big. Having a medieval fantasy world makes it all relatively manageable for what most authors want to do.

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Do they ever end up clearly romantically involved? I thoroughly enjoyed the first season, but came away with the impression that their relationship was heading towards the anime doldrums.

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what are you talking about? there you've got the serious guy, the pretty boy, the shota bait, and the hot head.

>first encounter with people in the other world is a carriage with a cute girl being attacked

Why do they always do this?

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It seems to me that writing an isekai is a crutch for when an author wants to write a story in a specific setting but has no idea for an actual story.

Is it Isekai or Sci-Fi fantasy?

It was taking far too many years to happen. They should have been combining genes well before the end of what was in the anime.

What about native?

I guess that's why I'm always fond of WH40K lore. The great crusade sound likes a fun time to have a space marine stranded in a fantasy world and starts a one man campaign to make the planet worship the god emperor.

At least they didn't make language easy.

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I'm not sure that's true. I think the biggest issue is that they are all so fucking similar at the start and they take fucking ages to reach a point where they actually feel different from each other. The first 50 or so chapters are usually adventurers guild, cheat power, harem gathering and other stupid shit before they start heading for a goal. Ofcourse there are some that simply want to write about having a leisurely life.

You mean like this? Sorry, can't really tell each other apart, thanks to shoujoshit artstyle.

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It's a crutch when they infodump the skills and lore to pad out the story.

LN translations never ever.

Define world.

They were recently licensed.

Is the novels still ongoing now?

I'm shocked how long the main girl is staying a double amputee

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Very slowly, but I think one was released within the past year.

Isekai is just a way of creating a MC with a modern day mindset, whether it's for self-insert purposes or because it's just easier to write. There's no need to worry about your peasant farmboy hero sounding intelligent and "normal" if you can just port in somebody from modern day Earth instead.

Does pic related count? Mech piloting MC who defeated the big bad space aliens wakes up after a century to find that humanity has driven the world to shit and technology has hardly progressed.

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>[BARRIER FREE intensifies]

Is this normal future sci-fi or isekai sci-fi

Why do milfs always have a ponytail over their shoulder?

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Which one is this?

oh geez that's my fetish

First novel has already been translated. Fingers crossed.

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The official translations are past the shitty fan ones now.

Sci-fi guy crash lands on fantasy planet if I recall correctly.

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If you go far enough back modern genre falls away and it's all just fiction.

It doesn't seem that bad all things considered. I'd read it.

Kochugunshikan Boukensha ni Naru

Shinju no Nectar is total schlock but I like the way the MC bullshits through everything with shit he learned from getting fired from a dozen industrial jobs in the real world. Like one-upping the dwarves by using his lightning powers for arc welding.

Dunbine is still the best isekai

He said shill it to them, not submit it.

The derelict ship an Imperial Navy lieutenant is on falls through a wormhole and he lands into a typical isekai world.

Think of it as Planet of the Apes mixed with Starship Troopers, since the whole sci-fi plot is that they're a big human fascist space empire fighting bugs.

Kochugunshikan, Boukensha ni Naru

Manga is here: lhscan.net/manga-kochugunshikan-boukensha-ni-naru-raw.html

One thing that bothers me is that he basically just uses his nanomachine strength to become a boring fantasy swordsman instead of using his sci-fi gear

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The Star Ocean RPG franchise is a Sci-fi Isekai. Phase Gun being mistaken as the Sword of Light is trope I want to see more of. I only played the game, but was the Second Story anime any good?

It completely negates the need for "training arcs" because they can just bullshit a way for the MC to be powerful.

It's "smart" in that regard.

it's pretty much the goto hairstyle meme for motherly characters

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That's lame. And I bet the amputee girl gets her limbs back eventually too, doesn't she?

>Sci-Fi turns into normal isekai

Dropped, just fucking dropped.

>tfw no isekai taking place in the Foundation universe

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>Shinju no Nectar is total schlock
I'll be honest, it's much better and more coherent than so many isekai. I can't call it schlock because the writers are putting actual effort into it despite how shitty Qwaser is.

>And I bet the amputee girl gets her limbs back eventually too

I was really expecting an upgrade being an half-human/cyborg using her amputee parts to battle.

>ctrlf alita or gunnm
>phrase not found
it's literally another world guys

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It seems too unique and has the potential to be good. When is it getting axed?

The whole thing where their world's industrial revolution was kickstarted with the knowledge of previously summoned people makes the whole thing feel a lpt less contrived at least. MC-kun isn't some special snowflake, just lucky and surrounded by literally magic tits.

Bandits are everywhere in a medieval world.

Yeah, And Gundam Wing: Frozen Teardrop is isekai as well.
youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ0Hlw2fbug

>The whole thing where their world's industrial revolution was kickstarted with the knowledge of previously summoned people makes the whole thing feel a lpt less contrived at least
It actually makes sense and the fact that the fantasy races haven't managed to jump further in technology is because while they can adapt certain aspects of earth tech, they can't go all the way and would require technology that is still beyond their capabilities. The dwarven chapters highlight how they still can't make better engines because they haven't managed to create electric generators to facilitate welding. Even with magic tits, the story is kept reigned in and internally consistent.

>Gundam is in many ways actually softer than SW when it comes to science
Dumb shit you read on the internet

oh shit, the author even has it free online
>For Lisa
>If we're not in pain, we're not alive
Haven't even read the description, but if this is how the book dedication starts off, then it seems like a promising read

Female Robot is isekai right? or just time travel?

I want a setting where the galaxy has been mostly populated but there's no super duper warp-dives.
Instead ships can travel ~208x faster than light.
At that speed it'd take a week to get to our nearest star but 490 years to cross the galaxy.
How would societies and cultures evolve and merge and split in such a galaxy?

With some napkin math this would be like living on an earth 1060x larger than ours (by radius) covered by a massive ocean full of islands with travel limited to ships of the colonial era.

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>I want a setting where the galaxy has been mostly populated but there's no super duper warp-dives.
>Instead ships can travel ~208x faster than light.

62 million km's per second isn't super duper to you?

I think he meant "no instant (or a constant set of time) travel between point A to point B", regardless if point B is in the next sol system or on another galaxy.

In contrast to fictional settings where large swaths of galaxy can be traveled in relatively small amounts of time compared to average lifespan.
or settings where travel is slower but there is still large political hegemons.
With average human lifespan and 208x light speed travel how can you maintain any form of large government, people can just leave, edicts and other political decision propagate too slowly. It'd be a giant smorgasborg of cultural and tech gradients as information flows around and people migrate.

I forgot to add requirement that the space travel tech, is easy to manufacture or maintain such that no minority group can assert control over it.
More like cars less like super-sonic commercial flights for example.

That'd be kind of amazing, it probably wouldn't cost GW much to commission a 40k isekai manga like that and it'd do a lot to promote them in Japan I'm sure
I had an idea for a sci-fi isekai where the protagonist winds up being seen as something very much like the 40k emperor, until he finally wakes up and it turns out he's more or less a regular mid-21st-century guy
He's diagnosed with a fatal disease so he's cryogenically frozen, but his genius brocon imouto develops a highly advanced self-upgrading AI to manage his money, keep him safe, and cure his disease by any means necessary
Of course, it winds up making a massive fortune on the stock market, developing a lot of crazy sci-fi technology, manipulating global politics from the shadows, taking over the planet, and brutally conquering half the galaxy to force everyone to love and worship him like she did, so no one will ever harm him
It takes hundreds of years of monstrous unethical human experimentation but finally his disease can be cured with a 99.9999% success rate (the minimum threshold the sister put in for unfreezing him) and so the AI wakes him up and informs him that he's become the God-Emperor of Mankind, ruling over hundreds of billions of people
And later he finds out that the fanatical, genocidal human race and especially their evil emperor are seen as the most horrifying scourge ever to plague the galaxy by the rest of the intelligent races out there

This sounds a lot like Zipang

D&D magic has very little resemblance to how Vance did it.

>mc is a japanese lad with manners but has kendo training
>gets isekai'd to high tech world
>wanders the streets and the robot guards come to get him
>rebel underground groups help him but are overwhelmed by the firepower
>mc picks up a metal weapon they have
>it shines with plasma laser and he beats the guards
>only survivor is a loli girl
>they head underground and are alone since everyone died
>they live together and head out to the surface for missions to destroy the robot guards and eventually kill corrupt noble cyborgs since democracy has long been dead
>they meet a rogue bot who's huge but can be compact, a redhaired vampire girl with nanomachines that changed her body and blond noble girl who wants to see the nature she read about in stories

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>Hetalia: Imperium Powers

No, it's a sequel to Endless Waltz and I heard Sunrise has greenlit as a movie or OVA project.

Would definitely read that.

>Meanwhile the last 2
Season 5, not season 7, is when that show went downhill.

>Gunm Mars Chronicles takes place on Mars
considers it isekai

>Frozen Teardrop takes place on Mars
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LN"s worth it? I've wasted too much of my life trying to piece together meaning from shitty translations.

Terminator made of a folding red crystal, with a hand of killing light. As he bites the neck-veins of the elven lords he yells PRAISE REMAN, which has not been born yet.

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Sci-fi isekai were the MC gets abducted by aliens.

I wonder how Pelinal Whitestrake would fare in some other fantasy world? How would they respond to the mad knight?

And then he gets psychic powers, because the Japanese think that aliens have psychic powers, for some fucking reason.

No Sci-Fi Isekai.
What are:

>Now and Then, Here and there
>Dual!

I remember reading an sf series long ago where all the advanced aliens in the galaxy had made themselves genetically psychologically incapable of killing any other living being and they were getting steamrolled by an invading race that could and so they turned to humans as the only other race left that could actually still pull triggers and fight back
Seems like that's nearly the same sort of thing as summoning heroes to fight the Demon Lord

Futurama?

Or Stargate SG-1. Asgard needed people dumb enough to fight the replicators. Humans were the top choice.

Start writing it.

Kawakami counts?

where can I read this?

Gundam is not remotely realistic either. AMBAC is ludicrous and would never result in humanoid weapons.

Sounds like Alan Dean Foster's The Damned series. He also wrote an actual isekai series about a california surfer dude getting summoned to a fantasy world of furries and becoming a rock and roll bard.

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>he doesn't know

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>Read any short story from the Golden Age of sci-fi. In it, the technology, the concept is what the author is set to explore.

Yeah and they're all really fucking boring shit about a dude stroking his dick about how he has enough delta v or whatever to do the thing the author wants him to be able to do.

>It's about human nature or moral values or some crap,
Like the vast majority of literature?

>all electronics fail
Then how dafug did they manage to develop and bio-engineer man-eating jellies & spiders?

>Technically he's not wisked away to another world

What about this then

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I can't decide if you're trolling or legitimately a fucking idiot
so I'll just go with you're a fucking idiot

What is the sex worker about?

Very very slowly.

>I reached out to Boss. My crude hand touched her cheek, and I could feel the softness of her skin on my calluses. Seeing the calluses I got while cocking the crossbow, bitterness rose up within me.
>I had gotten more used to this world than I imagined.
>With that, the urge within me disappeared, replaced by an unknown stuffiness.
>But this time, Boss moved. Her cold yet warm hand grasped mine and kept it from shaking.
>We looked at each other with our hand held together. Neither of us said a word, surrounding us in a strange atmosphere.

For those of you who haven't caught up with TNE in awhile, Boss is cleaning house in the Hajinbowl.

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planet of the apes is the original scifi native isekai.

it is not native isekai it is time travel

she's so cute and fluffy and precious th- HNNNNNGH

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You mean John Carter?

I feel like the romance is a little rushed. Sure it's been hinted at many chapters ago but those were just hints. I feel like there hasn't been any real development until just a few chapters ago and now all of a sudden he can't stop staring at her and touching her.

I'm happy that there's finally a bit of romance but I feel like it could have been handled better. It feels like the author's doing this because he plans to have Boss betray Hajin for the original boss and wants it to be more impactful.

How do isekai about crop rotations address the problem of all premodern agricultural societies being one or two bad harvests away from starvation and revolt?

Blue Gender?

Have I told you the tragedy of Fritz Haber the wise?

Newtypes are not equal to Force users. They're psychics who can do some sort of telepathy and that's not against laws of physics. Brain emits waves that can be detected. The means is obviosuly fictional but the groundwork isn't.

The Force has telekinesis which is less realistic if not impossible. The Force is also metaphysical in the universe of Starwars so it's not scientific even by SW's standards.
Newtype in Gundam world is an evolved human with heightened mental awareness.

Better yet, what isekai goes into depth on the tax policy of the demon lord?

Just use technology that is so advanced that it's indistinguishable from magic.
>I was reborn as level 9 safeguard in a Touho mega dungeon
There.

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On the bright side, cause and effect could be reversed here, with the author pushing the original Boss subplot to the front to solidify Boss' position, rather than vice-versa
Would have been fine if it had just stayed a subplot though.

Who needs a tax policy when you can just loot conquered kingdoms?

Make your own.

go read Lem if you like first contacts

Is Muv-Luv scifi or post apocalyptic

Because Sci-Fi settings are not conducive to some core elements of an Isekai, mainly wish fulfillment through a power fantasy. Sci-Fi settings are defined by the prevalence of advanced technology rather than things that are innate to individuals like magic or superpowers. It's something that the protagonist would be unable to understand or use to a greater degree than the natives. He'd be experiencing the same kind of powerlessness that people experience today when they're surrounded by shit they don't really understand except it's far worse because the MC is a relic of a bygone time and has even less value in the new world than what little he had back home. Standard Isekai can't work without magical elements that distinguish the MC from the masses to his benefit.

there's one sci fi isekai where the MC's misunderstandings are so extreme that everybody thinks he's a genius. it's not that good though.

everyone is controlled by some orwellian nightmare surveillance system or nanomachines or whatever the fuck & mc is the only living person completely free of it due to having come from another world. done. premises aren't *too* hard to come up with; it's just difficult to write a fully compelling story around it.

also it becomes harder to write in cute girls with animal ears & shit like that, so that it makes it immediately less profitable within the japanese manga market compared to other settings that are easier to fill with shit that sells. again, it isn't impossible to write a story that hits all of the requisite flags to be quantified as an isekai in a different setting, it's just hard to get right & everyone in this thread is asking for it to come from an industry that prioritizes profit over everything else & wouldn't want to take that kind of risk unless the current environment changes drastically first.

>John Carter of Mars

Are you /fit/ like Rudy, user?

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Idiocracy did it in a pretty fun way. Everyone else being retarded is much more enjoyable than an supposed super genius.

KOF isekai featuring Iori Yagami soon.

Boss winning is fine with me. I just wish for a solid good ending for a certain someone.

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What tags make you insta-drop a series?

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I guess we won't have much stuff to talk about.

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amazon.com/Last-First-Idol-Gengen-Kusano-ebook/dp/B07FXW2MZD/

nyaa.si/view/1082818

Most people don't like "hard" sci-fi, and in Japan at least, if it's going to be sci-fi, you might as well add some mecha to the mix.

Japs have lots of respectable "hard" sci-fi, it's just not in the otakuspace. Otakuspace shit always throws in mecha.

>hard scifi
Who says it has to be hard? Soft scifi gives plenty of freedom to do what they wish, as much if not maybe more so than fantasy.

Didn't he fuck another girl already? Is he going the harem route?

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But 40K and Star Trek can ignite the big peen

uh, ok
are you gonna share or what?

This raises a question.
Were too nukes too much or not enough?

A Gunslinger In The Court Of The Dragon Queen

Gotta fuck as many as he can because the world he's in is literally gonna end soon.

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because that requires both the author And the reader to be educated
and that's just asking too much from people who read isekai

yes

good sci-fi is somewhere between good compelling stories and autistic description of tech and implications

Yaoi, shonen ai and genderbender are the only tags I have blocked.
Anything else goes.

I stopped checking series that have the harem tag and my reading experience has significantly improved.

>lvl 1 guy vs lvl 99 demon
>"oh I know, I'll just strip her down"
What about the 98 level of stats she has on him?

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>why isn't this botoom-of-the-barrel isekai realistic
bitch r u srs rite nao

Stargate exists.

Truly, this threads quality is indicative of the average isekai fan intelligence.

Let's be honest here, the art is pretty nice. That alone makes it better than "the barrel of the bottom" shit that's out there. Isekai oji-san, tanaka the healer, butsuri-san are all far, far worse.

you have a point there

SG:U S1 is pretty great, though

MC should stick with this cute and funny Maou instead

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I'd spank the fucking demon girl so hard after she chased away the slime. Fucking jealous bitch, actually the way she acts giving her some neglect play would be more appropriate.

1 god-given cheat skill > 98 levels of HARD WORK

He didn't even beat her with his cheat skill, he just violated her into submission.

>Read Villainess' Dad
>Before MC got Isekai Dad proactively avoided his wife and daughter after the daughter was born

I think Dad was actually gay

>he thinks you need brains to write sci-fi

>Because Sci-Fi settings are not conducive to some core elements of an Isekai, mainly wish fulfillment through a power fantasy.
Have you ever picked up sci-fi shit not written by Clarke? Because boy howdy there's a fuckload of old dime sci-fi novels that would make the average narou writer blush with the level of wish-fulfillment in them.

>also it becomes harder to write in cute girls with animal ears & shit like that,
My fucking ass it does, just call animal ear people ayy lmaos and call it a fucking day, I swear you "sci fi is hard to write" people have never even touched the absurdly huge pile of them that are literally just "dude with big dick fucks his way through space with his laser gun, big dick and his harem of technicolor alien babes". shit that is out there.

>Volunteered to train with knights all the time just to avoid his wife, only had a kid because his parents nagged him

Yeah, probably

Here ya go, isekaishit where the dude getting isekai'd is basically a Killy clone and there's no magical translator to help him understand the language:
mangadex.org/title/37088/the-wolf-won-t-sleep

could just be volcel, relatable to a lot of young people in japan today

I feel like when it comes to sci-fi, reverse isekai works much better than the normal one.
In fact it's a setup of at least a dozen of fairly well known sci-fi works staring with Prisoners of Power where a superhuman (can survive getting shot in the heart, crazy reaction speed, etc) guy from futuristic idyllic Earth crash lands on a mid-20th century planet stuck in a cycle of constant conflicts and decides to interfere, ruining the efforts of an entire Earthen science institute that was already working undercover trying to elevate this civilization to better state.

What happened to the Avarice translation? Did it died?

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????

Got a DMCA.

And that's it? No reason to stop because of that.

Well, OP isn't asking for more "fantasy"/RPG World Isekai.

>Yiffing in hell intensifies

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>Why are there no scifi isekai?
Among other things, I just think that the core assumptions of what "makes a story an isekai" are wrapped up in fantasy more than science fiction. Current readers are more used to the idea of 1-way transportation via magic that's uncontrollable to the main character as opposed to more lenient means of traversing worlds that science fiction would be more associated with.

So things like Digimon Adventure 02 where the kids can go back and forth whenever they want, or giving the main character a space ship, teleportation or transportation via stargate, even dimensional hopping like in Sliders. All those methods aren't what people would commonly associate with isekai so it's harder to sell people on the idea in general.

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Go complain with the translator.

Nah, if a translator actually stops because of some C&D or DMCA than complaining will do nothing. It will even have a negative effect and that idiot will completely drop it.

This is close, but the whole frozen body thing makes it different like the assimilating idol right?

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>Current readers are more used to the idea of 1-way transportation via magic that's uncontrollable to the main character
Just make blind hyperjumps and randomly opening wormholes a part of the story or something, with MC being unwillingly drawn into it but unable to come back, kickstarting an entire space odyssey where he tries to physically find the way back to Earth.

>If the isekai has more advanced science, what can the MC bring to that world?
Lost knowledge and/or skill? < might include stuff people didn't bother memorizing, and then, AI revolt.

I my self suggest the MC get abducted by a IFO at the start.

Imagine being this retarded

thanks for that kouhai, looks much better than your average isekaishit

>Imperial colonialism
Ah yes it was the African tribes who conquered all of Europe and the western hemisphere.

>Just make blind hyperjumps and randomly opening wormholes a part of the story or something
Yeah, you can do that but then I feel like it's just going to create stories that aren't that much different from their fantasy counterparts.

this is why there are no sci fi isekai

No, it's simply because nobody cares about sci-fi.

This is big titty, genderbender dark souls:
mangadex.org/manga/37415

>Everyone uses katanah
>No armor yet still can't dodge for shit
Dark Souls memes aside, it does actually seem pretty promising. Been wanting some Souls-esque ripoffs—I mean stories.

>MY GENRE DOESN'T HAVE WISHFULFILLMENT
This is the average isekai hater's iq.

>Also, a quick update on the Second Coming situation: the English TL rights holder decided to go with someone "cheaper" than me and start from ch 1.Well, good luck to them, I guess.
And that's why everything that isn't a proper publisher and relies on shitty paid translators is a joke.

glad i didn't start this one yet, i wouldn't be able to stand waiting for a new translator to do 90 chapters before i could pick up where i left off.

Same here I just caught up with ORV and I was planning to read Avarice next, but now I will have to give up on that.

Any good isekai where I can self-insert?

The AI of said ship...so yeah, actually the whole ship.

You're in luck really, the place it stopped is also not very favorable. Right before the awaited reunion. At least I could see best girl being best girl before that greedy translator dropped it.

So far it seems aite.

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I just wonder why they recycle the same fucking generic fantasy setting every time. Do japs have ANY creativity whatsoever?

Why change what works for them?

Because this shit actually sells, believe it or not

Atelier Tanaka is great.

mostly because the protag is an actual grown fucking man, and not another 15 yo totally-not-self-insert

>game abilities
into the trash

>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WHY DOES ISEKAI DO THIS?
>ignores every other genre and their recycled settings and tropes

right. OP is absolutely a redditfag and the fact this bait thread got traction at all makes me think the whole board is infested by them like the rest of Yea Forums. I wanted to believe Yea Forums got mostly spared, but alas.

>Everyone I dislike is reddit
You have to go back.

Amber Sword update

That's mostly what we would get if scifi isekai was popular instead. I'd still rather see planets of catgirls or elves if it meant more scifi isekai.

Just rewatch Flash Gordon.

MASAKA!? The furry actually awakened?