He still has a higher potential than Broly you know
Dragon Ball Super
Benjamin Rogers
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Ryder Johnson
His max potential is between Super Buu and Buutenks. Broly managed to reach God tier in just his first real fight.
Christian Cox
Enter CHADro
Camden Baker
what went wrong?
Mason Kelly
According to the true canon (manga) he's stronger than Broly
Eli Evans
he a biiiiitch
Joseph Morales
>higher potential than Broly
Ethan Murphy
Jobrenbros why can't we have Jobren in the OP anymore? Is it finally over for us...
Carter Lee
Check the polls
Parker Ortiz
They never looked good for Jobren
Matthew Hughes
On the other hand, Goku doesn't seem to think about his children all that much.
Brody Ross
You mean weaker than untransformed Broly
Isaiah Wright
Isn't the whole point of "awakened" Gohan that all his potential has been tapped ?
Aiden James
Back when being between Super Buu and Buutenks was impressive. Gohan was basically the strongest character unless there was absorption or fusion involved. They've of course retconned it so that characters can still hype up his potential here or there, but it doesn't matter either way since Gohan is forever irrelevant now.
Robert Ramirez
Extremely sad
Julian Robinson
>Doesn't know or care when they were born
>Never kissed his wife
>This from Toriyama
Yet some people will still argue Goku's a good father and husband.
Juan Young
He said, before jobbing to a demented furry.
James Jackson
:)
Gabriel Long
>BROLY of all people
>being this kawaii
It shouldn't be possible, but it is.
Lucas Garcia
God bless Toriyama
Daniel Flores
I really want tori to confirm that goku died to cell on purpose, I know it's the case but there's a whole lot of tardkufags who always bring it up as a good thing that goku did, while in reality it was a massive dick move leaving gohan crying after him
Noah Scott
>pointy boots
what kind of heresy is this? respect GODtani's redesign
Zachary Edwards
The writing for that movie was crazy good, which is what makes the Super anime's issues so bizarre to me.
I've enjoyed the movies (though I haven't seen the RoF movie), and the manga's pretty damn solid, but for whatever reason, the Super anime was so up and down. Was Toriyama less involved or something?
Connor Jackson
His hidden potential has been forcibly brought out twice on top of years of training and fighting.
Broly played with animals and only ever had a serious fight starting with the movie. He is way beyond Gohan
Isaac Gomez
Chi-Chi
Nicholas Price
>Using events from Super as canon.
Based retard.
Elijah Taylor
Time shit on gayhan.
Ryder Russell
Nothing's wrong with Kid Gohan; he's a badass.
ADULT Gohan is a different story.
Luke Reed
Because the shitlyjanny is banning CHADren posts on sight. Why are WEAKlyfags so pathetic?
Connor Bennett
Because Brolyfags don't spam as much as Jirenfags.
Cameron Thompson
Ressurrection of Freeza is the worst Super movie. Don't bother.
Samuel Flores
Enter dolphin chads.
Zachary Wood
>I swear guise 2-0 I swear
>Kiss my wife Begita
>Gokek bad dad
pathetic, have sex.
Joshua Clark
For real? Animation aside, how does it compare to the anime arc?
Cooper Perry
Yeah I liked it more when there were clear limits, dbz was all about limits. GOKU didn't even bother training another day in the RoSAT because he knew he wouldn't get much stronger and Vegeta & Trunks pretty much peaked, with Gohan's potential letting him reach a new stage... And 7 years later that stage was still the peak, with Goku and Vegeta and Dabura all having Cell Games powerlevels because that's as far as they could get.
Then Toriyama introduces the max potential unlock and it was fine to have Gohan be that strong as his limit while the other characters had to come up with other techniques to fight Buu,and Buu powered up by absorbing them.
It all made sense and they had all peaked in the Buu saga no matter how many years more they trained, in fact they even stopped getting zenkais.
Then DBS begins and SSJ2 Vegeta is stronger than SSJ3 Goku, and they can fodderize ssj3 Gotenks at their base forms,not to mention Goku gets stronger every episode with no rhyme or reason.
Lucas Hall
>Bejita-sama... This lowly saiyan humbly begs his one and only prince to please kiss his wife. I know she is not as perfect as Bulma, but this lowly saiyan hopes the great Bejita-sama will find some way to enjoy it nontheless. Chichi told me that if she does not receive a kiss from you, there will be no food for me. Please, your royal highness Bejita-sama, find some mercy in your heart and rid my wife's lips of their virginity for me!
Luis Harris
Well, animation aside (the biggest problem), it's better if you want something more brief, though the minor characters get less chances to shine.
Jason Murphy
Having the power levels be more vague was probably a mistake. There's no rhyme or reason to the power-ups now, what with SS Rage, SSBE, and SS Rose all being yanked directly out of Toriyama's asshole.
The one possible benefit to the weird power levels was that more minor characters could get suddenly stronger and get the spotlight, but in practice it's still the Goku and Vegeta show.
Honestly, if Goku and Vegeta were both just running around using SS3 instead of SSB, the show wouldn't be all that different. They'd still be way above everyone else.
Jace Harris
You mean the animation in the movie is bad too? I've seen a few clips, and thought it looked alright.
Henry Reed
>Was Toriyama less involved or something?
Yes, the basic script of Super is used for both manga and anime but Toriyama only corrects every issue of the manga, Toriyama's involvement with the anime wasn't even close to with the manga until the ToP, which was the last arc anyway.
Meanwhile DBS BR entire script is 100% Toriyama and no one was allowed to chance a thing on his own
Jason Flores
What do you think he was doing when Super Buu killed him?
John Perez
YEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH
Levi Rivera
It's slightly better than the anime but still really bad for a movie. Also reuses clips.
Jaxon Sanchez
Ah. So basically, we're comparing Toriyama's work to a fanfic. That explains a lot, though there were a few things about the anime I liked.
Paperwork, probably.
Aiden Wood
Tyler Perez
Gabriel Martinez
Thanks doc.
Jordan Scott
>reuses clips.
Holy shit, the MOVIE reuses animation clips? Well, you've convinced me. I'll give RoF a pass.
Easton Cox
Jackson Fisher
>PICCOLO, YOU SLUT! I THOUGHT WHAT WE HAD WAS SPECIAL!
Adrian Davis
Brody Moore
Nicholas Sanders
Jack Gray
Jesus christ.
Jace Cruz
he has a fanny pack
Joseph Robinson
Easton Roberts
MODS
Ethan Gonzalez
Carson Moore
>The writing for that movie was crazy good
Jayden Phillips
Jeremiah Phillips
>Spicly thread
>faggot shota porn being spammed
Based mod protecting Shitly threads
Hunter Morales
Because Toriyama smoked a case of cigarettes all at once after sleeping for 36 hours and literally wrote the screenplay numb nuts.
Ian Gonzalez
>Faggot spamming gay porn trying to falseflag the blame onto Broly posters
Disgusting, kill yourself you pathetic whelp.
Justin Cook
>KEKren spamming gay porn
I think we broke him Brolybros
Matthew Wilson
why do fucking fanartists draw large dicks on shotas so often, them having not fully grown ones is what makes it cute
Parker Mitchell
188710930
>Replying to himself
Joseph Powell
What's going on
James Hughes
Samuel Jackson
>first non jiren thread in awhile
>porn being spammed in order for the thread to be deleted
Really makes you think
Jason Lewis
> CHADrens Thread
> Everything is fine, nice thread, god tier thread literally
> Joblys Thread
> Spammed with incest porn, pedo porn etc
Evan Wood
Samefag
Nicholas Turner
Last thread was better
Jackson Gutierrez
Did someone say potential?
Tyler Thomas
Brolyfags are degenerates, they cower in the presence of Chadren which is why they post porn less
Juan Perry
I accept your concession.
Dominic Martin
Jobren Dogren Muttren Kennelren Shitren Failren Cryren Spicren Beanerren Niggerren Coonren Gayren Fagren Homoren Queeren Brainletren Weakren Peasantren Tantrumren Loserren Virginren Manletren Friendlessren Fatren Cowardren Babyren Kneelren Autismren Clownren Garbageren Trashren Pissren Dosedren Choderen Cuckren
Michael Allen
Cope
Don't sink to their level, let them wallow in their own degeneracy.
Caleb Phillips
Pretending absolutely nothing about the anime was good would be just childish and dishonest but yeah, there was a lot stuff you know Toriyama would never make like Toppo's strongest form being dark hulk
Jaxon Ross
Eternal reminder that Brolyfags do in fact spam gay porn.
Jack Sanchez
Caleb Martinez
Which one bros?
Justin Mitchell
Jiren won. He did it again. The thread isn't about CHADren yet he won again. B-B-B-Brolybros how do we beat such a based character?
Adrian Bell
False flag. The gay porn spammer probably isn't either side. Seems more like a Pan thing to do
Zachary Sanchez
Cope
Jeremiah Ward
Neither, both are shit that couldn't even finish the job.
Joseph Hughes
Only because fusion being a win-button would be too cheap for the story, they are literally too strong to finish their job
Christian Ross
Is that really the only answer left for us Brolybros...
Okay...it's time to cope
Gavin Johnson
>win-button
>when kefla exist
Liam Moore
Gogeta was about to. He was never even shown to defuse either.
Jeremiah Baker
>Jiren doesn't even require a PRESENCE to win, his mere EXISTENCE, somewhere, anywhere, in the remotest corners of the multiverse, is enough to cause landslide victories in DBS threads
How does he do it?
Nathan Nguyen
is jiren really beautiful or it's just a meme?
Lincoln Foster
He has amazing aesthetics.
Jaxson Morgan
>defuse after the 30 min. limit
>teleport to broly's location through instant transmission
>fuse again
>kill broly
He had the opportunity.
Daniel Ramirez
>there was a lot stuff you know Toriyama would never make like Toppo's strongest form being dark hulk
How much contribution did Toriyama have in Super?
Xavier Campbell
He's boring
Jason Sanders
most important characters, the ending of future trunks arc, all the gags with how hard goku hates his family, some important plot points like goku hiring hit and reminding zeno
Camden White
Based.
Jace Green
God, what a cunt.
Jose Lopez
soul
Oliver Watson
>Goku and the Jobber Team
David Adams
peak dragonball. piccolo jr/saiyan saga is pretty much my golden period.
Logan Williams
Why did Dragon Ball change after Namek?
Julian Peterson
Asher Richardson
and he's still the king of the jobbers
Liam Parker
back when goku was a good guy, and gohan was to grow up to be a chad, good times
Charles Lopez
Why was future gohan so weak? serious question
Carter Roberts
Pic related
Grayson Gomez
Because Gohan form hype wasn't a thing yet and Toriyama didn't even know the power levels of the end of the saga, let alone the Buu saga yet.
John Anderson
KISSING? WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH MARRIAGE, SOMEONE EXPLAIN.
Charles Smith
saiyan genes stronger in peaceful times
Josiah Gomez
>tortifla and fale fusion
Irrelevant, we are talking about the fusion of the protagonist and the deuteragonist here
Leo Russell
...
Adam Perez
>"the ending of future Trunks arc", not "the ending of all arcs
>"ALL gags with how Goku hates his family"
>"Goku hiring hit"
Stop lying
Gavin Reed
Kek
Can you imagine being an unironic Gokufag?
Charles Scott
OH NO NO NO NO
Sebastian Ramirez
TOEIFAGS BTFO
Nicholas Bennett
BACKren.
Jason Smith
When are we getting more crossovers?
Christopher Reyes
CHADenmba
Liam Sanchez
I was happier when I thought Molo had no porn
Jaxon Gutierrez
Gogeta
Michael Williams
Cope
Neck Cancer
Fuck yeah Toriko was my shit, would have loved to see him chill with the Z fighters more the crossover was great.
Lincoln Ross
Gavin Ward
Good god
Jonathan Scott
>Genderbent Moro with beachball boobs
I have lost hope for Humanity.
Brandon Price
>Fuck yeah Toriko was my shit, would have loved to see him chill with the Z fighters more the crossover was great.
Yeah the beginning was kind of weak imo but the eating portion, the hunting, and the monster fight at the end was actually really good.
Wyatt Green
Who's stronger between ssj rage trunks or ultimate gohan?
William Bennett
Boo arc ultimate Gohan or ToP arc ultimate Gohan? Anime Gohan or manga Gohan? Anime Trunks or hypothetical manga Trunks with SS Anger?
Ryan Taylor
>SHITren threads
>deleted
Nicholas Morales
Nope. He maxxed out vs Goku blue
Carter Lee
J-Jirenbros...we lost...again...time to kill ourselves...
Isaiah Smith
umm we've already established that CHADren won
Henry Miller
Nice headcanon
Adrian Nelson
OH NONONONO
Parker Jackson
Jirenbros...i'm shaking right now, i'm about to hang myself bros please help me....
Ryder Morales
>ONE overnight training gets him back to SSB
He obviously fucking isn't. Jobly won't get power ups anymore and was the one who actually maxed out against Gogeta
Alexander Anderson
Camden Rogers
Do it you scum
Bentley Ward
Shit waifu.
Anthony Collins
Holy fucking shit these ISIS shoops make a lot more sense now that we know Brolyfags are literally arabs
Julian Hughes
Enter GODren.
Connor Evans
.
Dominic Phillips
>Obsessed jobrenburro can't defend his precious Jobhan without making fanfics about CHADly
How does someone gets to be so stupid?
Andrew White
>LE WOJAK IS SO FANNY LE HEEHEEHOO HOO HAHAHA I AM LITERLY DIEING RIGHT NOW BASE KINO KNIO BASED KINO YOU ARE SO GREAT MY DUDE LE FUNNY HAHAHA I POSTED WOJAK AGAIN HEHEHE HO HO I AM THE WOJAK GIGGLE GIGGLE
John Hall
Like a dog running for its master.
Camden Bennett
>no arguments
DONE.
Jayden Garcia
That's what you're about to do, my precious fido
Christopher Wright
Oh Super... you have bad writing
Noah Watson
So what was with this? How did Vegeta get to a point where he could actually push back Jiren and even land a good hit? Even UI Omen Goku couldn't do that.
Colton Myers
RENT FREE BABY
Lucas Lopez
S-SHITrenbros...
Owen Wilson
People who can defeat Jobren and humiliate him in the car
Aaron Cooper
Why is this a meme
I love it
Blake King
>Jobrenmongrels are on a full breakdown
Elijah Sanders
PFFFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Levi Clark
Caleb Garcia
Reminder that it's officially confirmed. Brolyfags will never refute or recover from this.
Bentley Morgan
Goddamnit no
Parker Hughes
You are literally the same guy. No one else ever finds this shit funny but you
Austin Perry
>Jiren
Cooper Jenkins
Jobren is just a higher power level, he lacks any special ability, like auto dodge, hax or just a straight up monster with infinite power like Broly.
Thomas Perry
Whis is above everyone.
Brayden Thomas
HOLY BASED
Matthew Johnson
Shouldnt Vegito be the one smiling and Gogeta more serious?
Matthew Peterson
>spic edits as proof
>c-c-can't recover
Jobrentardsbros why are you so fucking embarrassing
Charles Turner
>Gacha mobile game
A game for children need not count, for thouest know that ye not have thine argument
Ian Gray
That must be on his neighborhood, sorry and cope.
Nathaniel Gonzalez
>l-look guys I made an account on this jap website and voted for my shitty waifu a few times
>s-shitrenfags btfo hahahaha...
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF CHADREN HATERS
Anthony Hughes
Cringe
Daniel Murphy
Combo coping, sasuga Cucklypedros
Samuel Mitchell
“I want to train but she keeps putting my Weiner in her mouth”
James Richardson
>fans of the new Hit
Can't wait for them to get the same treatment and fucking disappear
Broly however is a main character and an important player in the future arcs.
Blake Lewis
If he’s not the next FighterZ character im gonna harm the country of Japan
Cooper Baker
>this level of coping
Ian Miller
>I-It wasn't the japs that voted i-i promise guys ahahaha...
Based nips always decide what the rest of the world likes best!
Nathan Rogers
>N-no your samefagging I have no arguments left please have mercy
Charge your phone
Dominic Cruz
Jiren the terrible antagonist
Ayden Green
How embarrassing
Justin Parker
He has sexy lingerie in goku and krillins size.
Brandon Reyes
Kneel, my Mexican pet.
David Carter
how?
Carson Young
Oh yeah... anyone gonna hit the panic button?
Lucas Diaz
It took a nigh Omnipotent being to beat back GODly and still it wasn't enough!
John Powell
>Jiren outdone by a one and done side character in his own arc
OH NO NO NO NO AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Noah Morales
Pull a planet vegeta
Cameron Hernandez
WHY IS HE SO HUGE BROS
Camden Howard
>open the thread anytime of the day
>shitrenfags are getting bullied and destroyed
P-please stop bullying us...
Juan Martinez
Japan isn't mexico
Levi Watson
It hurts J-Jobrenbro...5 years from now Caulifla could possibly be in a lots of people's top 10...but our boi Jobren is just a fucking Ledgic...
Jeremiah Howard
aren't you going to whine about this to your 2 babysitters on the bed?
Brody Mitchell
>fans of the new sHit
...
Isaiah Robinson
Ha
James Rogers
That's the problem. Gohan is only equal to Super Buu or Super Buu after he absorbs Gotenks, but he lacks proper techniques to effectively utilize that power to it's full potential.
Goku's limit at the time was Super Saiyan 3, but he had to think of ways to completely destroy Buu.
Angel Gutierrez
It's going to be even worse that anticipated... Can't say it isn't well deserved
Brayden Brown
Imagine SS Gogeta and SS Broly potara fusion!
Michael Russell
based
Xavier Phillips
Adult Gohan just wants to live his life as a scholar. Majin Buu was just a threat made strong by a combination of Vegeta unknowingly helping Babidi, the Supreme Kai underestimating the strength of the Heroes and Overselling Babidi as a threat, and Gotenks screwing around.
Ayden Hill
SHITren doesn't have any fans, just a bunch of gokutards trying to maintain a status quo completely made up by them.
I still see everywhere DB is talked about, that SSB Goku is stronger than Kefla and that he was really tired and UI is much stronger than SSB Gogeta, when I ask why is that...oh boy!
Chase Ortiz
The only time I cried when watching Dragon Ball was at the end of GT.
I still kinda do.
Kevin Jones
Jiren is pleased
Blake Allen
Imagine pretending you have any facts or feats or even a lousy statement, but keep coming back and get completely BTFO!
Joseph Parker
back to your kennel, master commands you
Jacob Smith
You can't say that and not link it user
Dylan Wilson
maybe later when it gets bigger, but for now let's not interfere with it, it merely sprouted
Nathaniel Powell
Not Bardock, though.
Isaac Sanchez
STOP CHADren sama....
Adam Baker
It's a subpar movie as a whole but a good cheat if you wanna save yourself the timespan of a few episodes. Between the Anime and Movie, there's only very minor differences, so you don't really miss out on anything.
>Frieza's goons revive Frieza. He trains for a few months and becomes stronger than SSG
>His men invade the Earth, which is to say they fight the main cast a little bit instead of actually invading
>Gohan gets the crap beat out of him. In the anime, Piccolo dies defending him from Frieza like that one time in DBZ
>Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, and Whis arrive on the scene. It's revealed that Frieza was a lackey of Beerus, but nobody cared after a few seconds
>They have the equivalent of a casual spar. Goku gets bored and lowers his guard, causing him to get shot down by a common Frieza Force Ray Gun, but it was Vegeta's turn to tag in anyway
>Vegeta proceeds to have a casual spar and beats the crap out of Frieza. He ragequits and blows up the planet as a result.
>Whis reverses time to prevent this from succeeding because they really like the snacks on Earth, so Toriyama cockblocks Vegeta by making Goku steal his kill
>They all live happily ever after
In the event that you'd rather just read footnotes.
Levi Martinez
I knew the plot, I was just wondering whether it was better as a movie or in the anime. The animation in the movie being lousy is rather discouraging, since that was the main problem with the anime.
Jeremiah Clark
I want a retcon for Fusion Dance so that it always lasts the full 30 minute duration no matter what. You can explain Gotenks' fusion fading faster due to them trying to cheat and make it last longer in a plane of existence where time moves slower, it frankly doesn't make sense but an adverse reaction from taking the fusion into a normal timescape does.
Alexander Howard
It's a lot less lousy than the anime's, palatable even. Consider watching the spanish dub with a bit of alcohol, nothing quite beats Frieza screaming POR QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE at the top of his lungs when you're drunk off your ass.
Juan Turner
sure thing Tori
Benjamin Gutierrez
Agreed, the "burning through it with SS3/SSB" shit is so stupid, with either the dance or the Potara. It should be the magic of the dance/earrings that fuses you, not your power level.
Matthew Rivera
Plot is better in anime. But the animation is God awful in too many episodes. The Base Goku vs Frieza fight was made by the same team and with the same care that DBS episode 5 was made.
Isaac Hill
If Kale uses pads and Caulifla tampons what happens when they fuse?
Wyatt Nelson
Ah, kk. I'll have to give it a watch at some point. Frieza is always a treat, so it can't be too bad if the animation's better.
Robert Cruz
Isaiah Clark
S-shitlybros...
Tyler Nelson
imagine playing DB games, just how low can one drop
Nathan Ramirez
>can't even tag properly
S-SHITrenbros...
Luis Wood
Parker Phillips
188717615
Can you not?
Nathan Brown
who's the doc now
Dylan Bennett
The power of fusions, Potara or not, is way more than any transformation or technique. Are there actually people who think Goku's transformation with UI is stronger than fusion?
Jaxson Gray
Maybe if it was still 1995, potential is a meme word now.
Thomas Hughes
It was better as a movie. The anime sucked because the heroes had trouble beating Frieza's men when they showed no such problems in the movie. Singling out Gohan for being too weak in the anime makes no sense since he's still miles stronger than everyone except for Goku and Vegeta.
Jeremiah Moore
Nothing. Child-Teen Gohan had the best character development in the series.
inb4 Vegeta, spontaneously becoming a different person entirely is not character development.
Ryan Martinez
Could Armament Haki fuck up a Z Fighter
Camden James
>spontaneously becoming a different person entirely is not character development.
Wat? Vegeta takes the whole fucking Cell Arc to start valuing his son's life, and needs the whole Buu arc before he finally feels remorse for his evil deeds and is considered a good guy in any way. Nothing about his development was spontaneous, user.
Cameron Hill
>i'm now a pacifist
Grayson Carter
>spontaneously becoming a different person entirely is not character development.
ironic
Hunter Hernandez
Cringe
Based
Jason Murphy
No
Jeremiah Lee
Vegeta starts feeling remorse because he knew he was going to hell.
Christopher Gonzalez
He wasn't afraid of Hell when he self-destructed against Buu.
Oliver Russell
At that point Vegeta knew that he fucked up in a way that nobody else would forgive him.
James Murphy
didn't he admit that he still likes killing during tardku #1 speech?
Caleb Green
>injures Raditz
>fights Nappa and Vegeta
>attacks frieza soldiers
>fights ginyu force
>fights frieza
>goes to fight frieza again
>trains to fight androids
Sorry bros, I can't fight Cell
Owen Hughes
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. He just accepted his fate, you mean? In that case, why feel remorseful later? He asks Goku to resurrect his victims at the tournament later on as he and Goku are teaming up to take on Kid Buu.
No, he says that for all his life, he fought to kill his enemies or for his own self-interest. He didn't say that he still likes killing.
Noah Long
thoughts?
Jack Phillips
good, can you design goten mk.ii while you at it
Josiah Perry
>Y-you mean it, Bejita-sama?
>Can we go for ice cream afterwards?
Colton Thomas
Of course, Kakarot.
Cameron Garcia
Finally, a happy ending.
Dylan Taylor
Truly a rare moment.
Gavin Gomez
hey where is the guy that answers "kek based" to my posts, I need appreciation
Kevin Gutierrez
eke basado
Carson Young
>the shitposting is so prevalent we can predict it now
Nolan Bailey
Lavender technically won that fight. They were both knocked out, but only Gohan would have died cause of his poison.
Grayson Hall
>Look at this absolute uni-
PPFFHHTT, HAHAHAHA
Jayden Hughes
Yep. Gohan jobbed to some psycho furry pissant from the shittiest universe.
Camden Wright
learn your place, worm
Owen Lopez
Editor wanted superhero highschool adventures.
Toriyama went full superman + toku joke also threw in Goten because the editors wanted a goku.
Oh and he's voiced by Nozawa and has a bitch on stilts gf for no raison.
Daniel Nguyen
They switched them both in personality and function.
Vegito was the playful and stronger one, but now Gogeta is.
Nathan Ward
Brayden Rodriguez
user, the one ONE thing you can say about DB and DBZ is that internal powerlevels were 500% consistent and any time anyone got a boost there was a major internally consistent reason for it.
As a matter of fact, a MASSIVE chunk of what sold DBZ was in how toriyama figured out HOW to get stronger and overcome obstacles/villians with those skills and training.
DBS? It's just make someone more powerful for random stupid goddamned reasons but never make them more powerful or have any screen time or growth as a character if they aren't goku or some random faggot that no one in the fandom gives a shit about.
17, roshi, I'm looking at you.
The 'writers" and suits outright saying "Fuck powerlevels" and faggot hacks who're probably paid shills saying fuck powerlevels and powerlevels means nothing are a major reason why DBS is unwatchable indefensible bullshit and no movie or story they can ever come up with will be any good.
No...look at this nonsense.
DB right now is completely random stupid as shit nonsense and no one can stomach this shit in a real way.
And no, it's not the Goku and Vegeta show.
It's GOKU TIME but the realize that people don't like Goku that much so they keep Vegeta powered up to take screen time when people are sick of Goku's bullshit.
user, he wrote a very loose fucking guide line if that.
The ENTIRE fucking future trunks arc was the super writers and the mangaka being given free reign by Toriyama to do what they want and they came up with a deeply retarded clusterfuck of idiocy that to this day makes no fucking sense and had the absolutely worst most unabashadly EVIL and FUCKED UP ending of any anime I can think of to date.
The Super FT ending was even darker and more fucked up and violent then the Ideon ending.
How in gods name can they call this a young children's show?
This has probably scarred those children for life for fucks sake.
Isaiah Allen
LOL
user, are you trying to make sense of Super's writing?
Dude, stop.
Super's writing is just random dumb bullshit happening to pad time and sell toys.
Carson Powell
Hunter Sanchez
What's your favorite jobhan moment
Caleb Flores
Michael Perry
>Blue skinned thot
bojack.gif here please
Cooper Bailey
user, he has proper techniques.
Demonschool martial arts and being a fuck your shit a full power punch is better then your thousand years of perfecting it energy attack.
He's being written as a shitty knock off of goku with no skills of his own when he was at his best when he was a no bullshit power house who used masenko as his signature move.
Shit give him the fucking hell bomb grenade and create a masenko kamehawave fusion technique and he'll be a beast.
Gabriel Sullivan
Powerlevels aren't everything, but they do matter. You don't have to go into the exact specifics of Goku's speed or Vegeta's endurance, but you also can't have characters just suddenly get boosts for no reason. It's asspulling and unsatisfying writing.
>And no, it's not the Goku and Vegeta show.
>It's GOKU TIME but the realize that people don't like Goku that much so they keep Vegeta powered up to take screen time when people are sick of Goku's bullshit.
As I understand it, a lot of anime/manga writers try to make the main character as dull as possible so as to let the supporting cast shine. So that's why every other shonen protagonist is "Dumbass McEatsALot".
Parker Taylor
I appreciate your righteous indignation, user. I'm glad I never spent any money on DBS.
Chase Howard
>intelligent experienced hero who has participated in many battles losing to brainlet monkey
NICE headcanon there friend
Benjamin Torres
I wish goku and vegeta had to learn the fusion tecnique from goten and trunks
Mainly because Goku only knew the rough version of it and chibi trunks and goten had not only mastered it but created a version of it that lasted longder.
Benjamin Hernandez
If jiren is so smart why couldn't he beat these three people
Jack Evans
Where are the shitposters?
Evan Martin
Jannies started deleting shitposts. As a result, we're no longer burning through 2-3 threads per day.
Wyatt Taylor
It didn't stop them before, why now
Luis Peterson
Gokek was asspulling stamina left and right in this fight while CHADren was drained from UI Omen
Besides Goku and Frieza had to suicide to knock him out of bounds
James Evans
>has higher resolve than Jiren and keeps getting up
>a-asspulls. Jobren strong
Cope
Blake Adams
>Powerlevels aren't everything,
In DB consistent power levels and skills are EVERYTHING.
Period.
If powerlevels are random and skills don't work all of the time for no reason then DB breaks down to it's core.
It doesn't work.
As for Shounen leads.
Goku is set as a character. We knew what to expect and we wanted more of that which also included much less of him when he got annoying. Which was often when you hear that voice.
He isn't some random shit eating shounen lead that we need to put up with. He's the top ape of ape shit hill and his personality in DBZ was pretty good if flawed and Tori knew exactly how much Goku to sprinkle in the story.
DBS guys?
They have no idea who or what goku is or that he's absolutely incapable of carrying the show on his own.
But they've set a fucking precedent with their nonsense so that the entire show is all about him. And they are only now realizing how badly they fucked up...actually if you look at that deeply goddamend retarded ending to the mediocre at best NU broly movie you'll realize that they fucked it up even more by going even harder on the GOKU AM DA GREETEST thing and just ruining their own damned canon and DB canon in general just to pump up Goku for god knows what reason.
Jackson Bennett
You cope. Gokek, Jobza, and Nerdventeen are fucked in a no holds barred match.
Joshua Martin
For the same reason he's the strongest.
Plot.
Someone really really really wanted to put 17 over, wanted to build some kind of retarded relationship between goku and frieza that never existed, and to make a dumb ending that still left a bad taste in my mouth.
Jiren was the hero
He lost to three villians.
One of which just decided to save everyone.
Then the writers tried and failed to make this some kind of fucking test by zeno(s) to unfuck how horrifyingly fucked up the ToP actually is.
Jeremiah Perry
The DC universe requires a Superman, the Young Men Comics universe requires a Sun Wukong, it's a matter of belief, but not only that. Groovacious.
Xavier Phillips
>M-MUH WRITING
My god, look at these turds, i guess the writing is only good if it fits your narration huh?
Ayden Rodriguez
>his personality in DBZ was pretty good if flawed and Tori knew exactly how much Goku to sprinkle in the story.
>DBS guys?
>They have no idea who or what goku is or that he's absolutely incapable of carrying the show on his own.
That's a really good point. DBZ, at its best, was as much about Gohan, Krillin, Piccolo, and Vegeta as it was Goku. Piccolo led the defense against the Saiyans, Vegeta was the one killing most of Frieza's army, and Gohan and Trunks were the ones finding the truth about Cell. But DBS keeps trying to "explore" the character of Goku, who is probably the most shallow character of the lot. It's asinine.
Camden Brooks
Fact is CHADren lost to Toei, not to Goku
Sebastian Lopez
Jobren would just beg for his life again
Robert Kelly
>Massive cope
then can i say Broly lost to inconsistent fusion time limit of Tori and he should've win against a fusion like Zamasu? two can play that game
Isaac Jones
they are pretty much the same entity now gogeta said his name was vegetto when they use the pottara to fuse
Ayden Wright
Hmmmmm, I wonder if you know about rabbits who travel by corrupted sunlight? Toei lost to...eh, LLEW.
Mighty Wood Storage. Huhuhuhuhuh
Nolan Martinez
I dumpstered Jiren the moment he started begging goku to knock him off. no true warrior would do such a thing. they would fight until their last breath.
I am proud to be a brolyCHAD now
Hunter Phillips
EPISODE 131 NEVER HAPPENED JIREN WINS THE TOP JIREN WINS THE TOP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Sebastian Perry
Based and Greenpilled
Dominic Brooks
Jose Scott
Will the manga just ignore that they can form Gogeta whenever they feel like it? A being far stronger than even Beerus, it annoys me that they're worried about Moro but don't mention the fusion.
Of course Moro can probably defuse them, but they should talk about it.
Austin Wilson
If you ask nicely and promise to spend a goodly portion of a much extended life, there are instructors who can cleanly do THAT too . . Or was, that the problem to begin with ? ? ?
Nolan Barnes
Haven't you ever bought a chinese knock off before, I heard they're packaged with budokai mods. Well, certainly I was TOLD SO.
Christopher Rogers
Reminder that Dyspo is the best Pride Trooper, he should usurp Toppo as captain.
Benjamin Cooper
Actually as proves Broly already surpass UI Goku and Jiren even before going full power (the point when Kale started damaging herself from overexertion) so Broly wouldn't even need to damage himself to overwhelm and obliterate Jobren
Cooper Sanchez
>will the manga just ignore they can form a guy that still can't defend himself from Moro's spell that lets you so tired you can't even sustain a basic aura without feeling pain?
Also the very first conversation they have at the beginning of the arc is about UI not working at will (yet) and both hating teaming up and wanting to fight on their own
Lincoln Bell
is that why he required so much training just to get absorbed?
Mason Foster
yes
William Rodriguez
>wisdom equates to strength and potential
Dumb anti-CHADhantard
Jason Richardson
Reminder that Dyspo is the best Pride Trooper, he should use my face as a seat cushion.
Cameron Walker
>He didn't say that he still likes killing
he does though.
Adrian Morgan
based
Christian Ward
That too
Angel Sullivan
Caleb Cooper
At this point I can't tell if gohanfags are still desperate to sell their autism or if it's just a big load of fat bait to mock the shit out of them.
Jaxson Howard
They're just mindbroken after their fave jobbed to a pair of furries like Lavender and Dyspo.
Jayden Powell
Is it just me, or have furries been becoming more prominent in anime recently?
Easton Torres
Shitly's reached his limit, CHADhan hasn't, this is canon. Cope.
Blake Perez
There's a shitton of them in DBS alone. Beerus, Champa, Dyspo, Liqueer, the Trio de Danger...it's like Toriyama has a new fetish or something.
Broly went from sub-SSG to GoD-tier in a couple of hours. Shithan needs Frieza's help to tackle the Trix Rabbit.
Jack Martin
Animal people were always in dragonball, at least until Toriyama forgot about them in the Cell arc.
Nathaniel Rogers
And even more potential to do nothing of value after the fact.
Austin Carter
Right, it's just been so long since we've seen them. My bad.
Hudson Perez
Dragon Ball Online has the Red Pants Army, which is full of furry soldiers who are trying to get their population back to what it once was. For some reason, most of the stronger soldiers all wear red speedos. I wonder what Toriyama was thinking when he came up with that idea...
Jackson Walker
Holy shit, that's a new level of fetish fuel, even for this series.
Colton Jenkins
Seriously though, what was going through his head? Why call it the Red Pants Army if they don't even wear pants?
Aiden Wright
Underpants are pants.
Logan Clark
Would that mean the Leader of the Red Pants Army wears a G-String, or has he ascended to Underunderpants.
Ryder Moore
Those are actually terrifying.
William Sanders
Toppo and Ji*en should both be kicked out for their shamefur dispray in the tournament.
Oliver Evans
>Broly went from sub-SSG to GoD-tier in a couple of hours. Shithan needs Frieza's help to tackle the Trix Rabbit.
Do you know what potential means? Fucking concession is accepted.
Brayden Harris
Based.
Logan Moore
Vegeta is a Gohan fan.
Brody Cruz
Why did Toyotaro fuck up Ultra Instinct in the manga?
>Literally just taps into it at will
>No specific build up, it just happens
>Reason for obtaining it because of "muh training" which means he's free to spam it anytime now
Seriously... why does he fucking suck?
Connor Lewis
>this technique can be activated at will
So?
>no build up
That's the anime, the manga foreshadowed UI after Vegeta vs Beerus rematch and during the GoD exhibition match, and even Roshi and Goku remembering his previous masters built it up too. The manga is the only version when UI actually means something when Goku uses it for first time, in the anime you only know it's really good because Goku improves AFTER he uses it out of nowhere.
>a technique being achieved by training is bad
Are you sure you aren't a pathetic toeikek shitposting?
>manga Goku can spam UI anytime now
Yep, shitposting. Disappointed, but not surprised
Juan Hernandez
foreshadowing =/= good writing
Julian Martin
>forereshadow an important plot point instead of making it suddenly appear out of nowhere isn't good writing or at least objectively better writing than take the opposite approach (which is doing nothing)
Try harder.
Brayden Turner
Red and black > Orange and blue
Robert Smith
golden-blue > orange-blue > orange brick-dark blue > red-black
Nathan Gonzalez
I like the contrast between bright and dark colors better imo, but golden-blue is pretty aesthetically pleasing.
Kayden Allen
A better ToP ending would be
>right after Goku falls over from UI
>Frieza and 17 overwhelm Jiren
>Gokus friends cry out from the stands
>Jiren hears all of their cries for help
>Jiren glances at Toppo, seeing himself in Goku
>Jiren powers up, eliminates Frieza and 17 after a fierce battle
>Goku is laying on the ground, still completely drained
>he laughs at Jiren
>Jiren smirks back, gently picks up Goku and lets him fall down
>as universe 7 is to be erased, Jiren looks at Goku one last time
>seeing the resolve and teamwork they displayed, Jiren remembers his master
>he realizes this is what he meant
>even though they all were weaker than Jiren, they all stood up and fought as a team, trusting each other till the end
>Jiren, looks at the Elder priest, then looks at the pride troopers again
>"Well Jiren, what is your wish?"
>now finally realizing what his master was trying to teach him all along, he replies:
>"Please restore all of the erased universes"
>Grand priest smiles, and complies
>all universes are seen as being restored, and super ends the same way
Thomas Barnes
Which is why Saiyan saga Vegeta is top-tier
Michael Hernandez
It's more likely than you think
Nathan Long
Long Live Dyspo
Sebastian Butler
Based.
Colton Price
"Pantsu" in Japan often actually references underpants.
パンツ一枚 Pantsu ichimai for example means "(wearing) just underpants".
William Sanders
Unironically better than what we got.
Jose Howard
>Vegeta becoming a different person is spontaneous
>Gohan suddenly being unable to fight Cell after spending the whole series up to that point fighting is organic
Landon Hill
This. What the fuck was that about?
Jayden Brown
Angel Long
With his hard face.
Wyatt Rivera
Luis Turner
AHEM.
Jackson Garcia
Not canon
Mason Allen
Are we talking about the same character whose master plan was to get all of the weakest characters in a circle so they couldn't get BTFO instantly? A plan which fell apart almost instantly, mind you.
Ryan Morgan
Burter may have been fast for his time, but Dyspo is fast on a multiversal level. Sure, he's far from Jiren's level of strength and precision, but Dyspo's lightspeed has a great amount of potential. The fact that the Zeno's had trouble keeping up with him, even after using an enhanced slow-downed god camera, speaks volumes at Dyspo's speed.
Even if he didn't overpower Frieza in his fight with him, his Super Maximum Lightspeed powerup definitely gave have the upperhand speed wise, using the force of his lightspeed to nearly ring-out Frieza. If Dyspo were to keep training and keep honing his skills, he could theoretically make himself much stronger than he actually is by using the force of his speed, kinda like how The Flash does sometimes.
The more velocity built up, the stronger the punch or kick. If he wanted to, he could built up speed by vibrating his body by the picosecond, that way he could pack a punch without wildly running all over the place. Hell, he could probably use that vibration ability to phase into alternate timelines without the use of Bulma's time machine. Out of all the Pride Troopers, Dyspo has the most potential of them all, not because of strength, but because of the reality of his speed.
Nicholas Thomas
What if CHADren teaches Broppo and Dysbro the ways of absolute strength now that he stopped being a Sasuke?
Zachary Cook
Why, why do something so stupid in a work of fiction, who comes up with this shit, it's like they're making an effort to make look stupid.
Connor Mitchell
If Dyspo were to become nearly as strong as Jiren, then that strength combined with his super speed could theoretically make him the strongest being under the angels. At that point, there'd be no need for Jiren, or Toppo, or any of the GoD's for that matter. That GoD-tier strength multiplied by Dyspo's lightspeed power make him the only force in the multiverse that matters.
The way GoD's can destroy a universe with hakai, a potentially GoD-tier Dyspo could do so with the super maximum lightspeed force of a single punch.
Kevin Rivera
It's a fluffier ending, but it doesn't make any sense at all. By proving that the combined efforts of the many don't make a difference in the face of raw power at its peak, Jiren somehow realizes that the combined efforts of the many make a difference in the face of raw power at its peak? How the hell does that make sense? You're expecting someone that was molded around a particular viewpoint since a very young age to suddenly have a change of heart because other strong people proved him right.
Parker Cooper
Jiren is faster.
Joseph Morgan
Trunks and Goten didn't create a version of it that lasted longer. The entire reason that they fight in the time chamber is because time progresses as a slower rate in that dimension, which for some reason makes a 30 minute fusion last for several days.
Lincoln Cook
The ToP was the Gault of goku and a lot of potential fights in the series were thrown under the bus to hype goku. Which failed miserably.
The group beating the one bad guy thing fails as a story if you think about it for even a second.
Andrew Robinson
He's not perfect but he is a good dad
>youtube.com
Carson Sanchez
It was the third editor who wanted high school adventures and superheroes. He was the most laid back one Toriyama ever had.
Luis Edwards
Yeah, just like Ginyu is faster than Burter, or Superman is faster than The Flash, but neither them nor Jiren have powers based around speed. Especially with the Flash, he can do things with just his super speed that Superman can only wish to do thanks to the Speed Force. Just as stated before, if Dyspo were to get on Jiren's level of strength while keeping his super speed, he could definitely overpower Jiren.
While Jiren is all about strength which is as basic a power as you can get, Dyspo putting all his skills into speed helps multiplies his strength. If Dyspo were to eventually become Jiren + Speed, then that speed would make him many times stronger than Jiren. With enough speed AND power, Dyspo could potentially warp reality. Remember when Gotenks and Buu opened a portal between dimensions just by yelling?
Imagine that, but with GoD-level power.
Juan Gray
>The group beating the one bad guy thing fails as a story if you think about it for even a second
I don't disagree, but they shouldn't have actually beaten him to begin with. The winning clause for the tournament was to have the most contenders in the ring by the end of the tournament and they could've achieved that it Frieza and 17 had just laid low until the very end. It makes more sense because that's the entire point they were drilling in from the beginning, that raw power wouldn't be enough to win when it isn't the sole winning condition.
Nicholas Reyes
>broly
>good writting
movie is shit, only good for sakuga.
Cameron Murphy
>Superman is faster than The Flash
He literally isn't.
Joseph Murphy
Time to end this once and for all
strawpoll.me
Anthony Anderson
Yeah. The shot is that guy on about?
Dylan Miller
>anti-CHADhantard
What's wrong with being an anti-Jobhantard?
Also exposed himself as a Jobrentard again
Jack Baker
J-Jobhanbros said Jobhan was stronger than Dyspo, b-but here we see a holding back Dyspo shitting on Jobhan and Freeza...
Carson Ramirez
t. butthurt joblyspic raped by Gogeta and rescued by a green goblin
Oliver Parker
I voted for Kefla :)
Jaxon Nguyen
>Jobly
>Jobhan
>Chadren
>Chadhan
Pathetic, all Job/Chad-posters should be eradicated. The thread would be more peaceful without them.
Sebastian Morgan
Logan Price
Look at Chadren. He's so saddened by how weak Kekza and Tardku are even going all out at the same time at him that he felt such sympathy in this moment.
Jonathan Lewis
He was pissing his pants actually
Hudson Richardson
Dylan Scott
He was surprised at the weakness while he was so strong. He is strongest yet his heart wasn't all in it. You clearly misunderstood the scene.
Michael Cook
No you are just damage controlling you shitrencuck
William Russell
aww is the leftist upset?
CHADren has won again.
Colton Green
>keeping track of me still
Good to know of the damage I had on you mentally
Brody Bailey
>resorting to snide
I realize that it takes a simple mind to truly misunderstand the grand storytelling when it comes to Jiren's character. I don't blame you, many here lack the mental prowess to see how great Jiren is .
Asher Long
Cell all the way!
Henry Torres
>unrelated buzzwords to further damage control
>p-pathetic
You are done.
With this kind of delusion, it's hard not to. Jobren was a piece of shit like his fanbase
Lucas Morales
Gabriel Rogers
Super perfect Cell was stronger than Beerus.
Elijah Nguyen
Nicholas Hughes
Jiren is character based on the concept of strength yet at the same time has to fight with his strength inside. The loss that he has encountered wounded him so and as so made him the strongest. How does one go against what made them strongest? It was test for Jiren. The tournament of power was actually a journey of self resolution for Jiren. Goku the Ape was the monkey who stood before the buddha to be. To become enlightenment Jiren needed to humble himself. The strive for strength he saw in Goku reminded him of his weakness within thus Jiren allowed himself to whither his spirit spirit. The only strength Jiren lacked..was the strength to be weak.
Aaron Baker
EVERYONE.. JUST.. SHUT UP!!!
OR ELSE I'LL KISS MY GRANDMA'S HUSBAND!!!
Benjamin Brooks
tl;dr
Brody Edwards
Gohan confirmed stronger than Jobren
Julian Baker
Elijah Morgan
>Yea Forums is making fun of the cutegang again
DBros...
Cooper Ortiz
Jiren is strong. Goku is weak. Jiren felt pity and realized there is more to life than being the strongest.
Joseph Thompson
Cell was completely insane version of Goku.
Brayden Wood
Nice pasta, Jobren is still shit.
Adam Barnes
Link?
Brody Reyes
Jiren is the strongest though? This is canon.
Hunter Gonzalez
Jiren???
Who the fuck is that?
Jeremiah Stewart
...
Gavin Bell
About to make Yea Forums a CHADren board
Isaac Perez
The true strongest.
Levi Barnes
Based and Chadpilled
Samuel Powell
Oh, Goku.
Christopher White
Haven't used the good ol kefla folder in a while
Christian Bennett
I said true strongest not true weakling.
Chase Mitchell
EGP?
Asher Powell
Broly!
Jace Rodriguez
Not true
Andrew Long
>I said true strongest
Songoku.
Gabriel Powell
>Leave Jobren to me.
Carson Nelson
Jobbed in promotional manga and canon anime. He's strong but weaker than jiren.
Anthony Moore
Goku is the insane version of Goku
Jaxon Rivera
Toriyama had some crazy ideas for online. Reminder that the only character that had know descendance in online is fucking Pilaf.
Brayden King
Goku is weak
Easton Richardson
Based and truthpilled.
Camden Perry
Cell is the weakest main villain in Dragon Ball history. The only three he's stronger than are King Piccolo, Tao, and maybe Tien.
Both Androids, Piccolo, Vegeta, Frieza, Cell Jrs, and even Ginyu surpassed him.
Ian Diaz
>Gokek and kekza
>going all out...in base
Benjamin Baker
>scared and crying and manletren
Juan Allen
Remember when people used to argue about who was stronger between Cell and Broly? They actually made that previously non canon character definitively stronger than Cell too. He literally can't win
Cooper Gonzalez
>kekren
>joblyturd
>furfags
Adam Long
Jobren is a fraud just like the one or two incels spamming their fraudulent edits and pastas.
Jonathan Hernandez
>straight from Yea Forums
show your Chadren tattoos!
Easton Bell
oh no no no all amateur tattoo
Caleb Smith
Shut up Faghan, you'd lose to Broly or Jiren just like you lost to those jobber furfags.
Connor Howard
I'd rather eat my own poop.
Samuel Sullivan
Only the best waifu gets that much dedication
Owen Collins
>bad dokkan art
holy shit
Christian Sullivan
Here here
Blake Reyes
I didn't think waifufags could sink any lower.
But they did.
Brandon Davis
please post more I wanna save these to mock keflatards
Henry Murphy
You share the same place with them, what does it say about you?
Logan Kelly
>implying anyone would find these other than a keflafag
Don't bully me
Nathan Fisher
>devianart spic art
lmao hahahahhaha
Lincoln Thomas
I already went further beyond.
Aaron Anderson
sound interesting
they should canonizing them
Lucas Rodriguez
Goku just needs to breed Pan many times.
Jackson Brooks
Jordan Smith
You have no idea what hell would be unleashed if the Red Pants Army became canon...
Anthony Diaz
and have inbred disgusting babies?
Sebastian Ramirez
>shitverse
No thanks
Henry Cook
Where's the edited Final Bout gif?
Jose Hughes
Is she eating ice cream?
Daniel Murphy
isn't it true vice versa too?
Aiden Green
CABBA SAMA!!!!
Thomas Ortiz
That's not what I was getting at, you know exactly what would happen if these characters made it into DBS.
Levi Lopez
God, I want to fuck Pan.
Jace Gonzalez
I don't normally come into dragon ball threads but I have a question about the Broly movie.
Is the idea of the actual legendary super saiyan still a thing and was Broly actually the one the legends predicted?
Connor Morgan
>Is the idea of the actual legendary super saiyan still a thing and was Broly actually the one the legends predicted?
The Super Saiyan state itself was legendary, but there's no big legend about Broly's LSS state, which may or may not have even been renamed to Super Saiyan Berserk.
As for canon-Broly, there's no big legend around him. He's just a Saiyan mutant with an unusually high power level, the ability to channel his Oozaru power in his normal state, and an innate fighting genius.
Benjamin Thomas
>heart pupils
SLUT
Christian Green
Pan is solely for her grandpa!
Jack Perry
The concept of "Legendary Super Saiyan" is not a thing, Broly is just a born mutant Saiyan with incredible power, similar to Kale. Their transformation seems to be tied to converting the power of Oozaru into a humanoid form, so essentially a complete overhaul of the SS4 concept combined with the formally known Legendary SS.
Tyler Evans
No, Gohan is a Piccolo fan
Jaxon Nelson
Something's insider, isn't it?
Ryder Watson
Cause he want the dose.
Anthony Hughes
Jiren the Impervious
Luis Barnes
AT knows people need reminders about these things. Thus, soon.
Ayden Martinez
Cut mom.
Robert Rogers
>cute
Matthew Evans
The thot ruined Bardock.
Kevin Brooks
Ryder Martin
That cute improved Bardock.
Carson Johnson
>DBS was supposed to return last month
wtf toei??
Josiah Brooks
She belongs in the
Angel Roberts
Saiyan waifus are best waifus.
Logan Rodriguez
Based.
Grayson Morales
>have sex
Vegeta does with the main girl. Goku gets raped by some nobody, hillbilly "princess".
Logan Scott
Nicholas Miller
Why is Gokek such a pathetic cuck?
Julian Sullivan
goku got there first
Aaron Perez
Brayden Bennett
why is this non-character even a thing with people
Brody Gutierrez
Camden Williams
She belongs in out hearts.
Carter Lewis
go away this isn't a GT thread
Logan Myers
1. They're furries.
2. He's kinda memorable because of how much he looks like Beerus.
3. They're furries.
4. He's fairly nice, unlike emo bitches like Jiren and Toppo.
5. They're fucking furries.
Jack Gomez
>thoughts
Wake-up, clown. Time to apologize for even dreaming your wench's lips would meet with your master's.
Juan Lewis
>strawpoll.me
who the fuck is voting for Goku
Grayson Morgan
Justin Ross
>liking ugly tomboyish dykes
Levi Fisher
Yeah, that seems about right.
>Jiren
>Goku
>Gohan
There are people who actually like these characters??
Chase Parker
>Gine
>Tomboyish dike
Do you have eyes?
Parker Ward
the absolute state of panfags
Chase Collins
Luis Hall
Gohan existed during the Cell Arc remember
Christopher Wood
Fuck you, Gine's not tomboyish, and Fasha wears a space leotard. Faggot.
Jack Hill
You won't do it. You're all talk.
Jason Roberts
Brayden Nguyen
Yeah, Gohan was cool....20 years ago.
Logan Jackson
I remember the good ol days when mixed breed Sayians were considered the most potential.
Jaxon Thompson
>Goku nor Vegeta will kiss this
FINE THEN! I'LL KISS HER THEN!!!!
Brody Wright
goku please
sweet carrot cream
Xavier Martinez
>t.Carlos
Ayden Lee
She may not be a tomboy, but she does look like a dyke.
Stop being gay for saiyan thots.
Ayden Phillips
>cucks her grandmother
>takes her grandfather's first kiss
Adrian Bell
how can chichi compete?
Henry Miller
That's a very specific picture of Vegeta
Colton Taylor
>there
Goku don't want none unless you've got balls, hun. For him, it can only be Bejita-sama. Here he is merely watching over his future queen.
Noah Powell
Reminder that carrots are unhealthy for rabbits.
Chase Brooks
Lincoln Wright
doujins aside, GT shipped them hard
Ryan Cooper
>Vegeta does with the main girl
So did Roshi, Goku, Yamcha, the pig and a bunch of other dudes.
Owen Gutierrez
t. gohan
Luke Peterson
Goku (Kakarot) is "Carrot". This is Vegeta we're talking about, so destroying said object is a pretty clear reference (and not at all strange that it should take this form eventually).
Robert Torres
filename
William Green
Alright then...
Justin Powell
>going ui omen over this
he mad
what does she have that he doesn't? a chest-butt? why won't his prince pay attention to him?
Jace Cook
2019
I am forgotten
Jordan Price
test
Jaxon Roberts
Just another Goku "rival"
Jace Cox
>still implying Goku has sex
Absurd.
>the others
A fashion slut made into the real thing by the man she never had to wish for. The Prince of her dreams.
Justin Butler
What use are 'rivals' when he's already got a "nemesis"?
Andrew Cooper
Who???
Henry Hall
Real talk Bejita's popularity saved him, Cell arc was his "you are now irrelevant" moment, then he made him useful again for the Buu arc because of his popularity, and finally in Super they basically retconned him being unable to catch up with Tardku and just made them more or less equal with the only difference being that Tardku discovers the new powerup first
Robert Sanders
COPE
Adrian Thomas
Is it safe to say that reekdom has been BTFO? He said a source told him that a trailer for the new super show would come out in late may.
Liam Young
Pan is a total tsundere whenever Goku is naked
Anthony Rivera
Considering the definition, there can be only one. Let's examine it, shall we?:
-Long-standing Rival
-Archenemy
-Inescapable Agent of X's downfall
There is only one. The Prince. Undefeated against the MC as per AT's will.
Eli Jackson
it was early May and yes.
Brody Clark
I'm going back to Yea Forums
Christopher Murphy
Poor Hit. Fastest rival-to-jobber arc ever.
Xavier Lee
I bet the source was the same source that said that trump ate 2 scoops
Isaac Miller
Shit. Almost forgot to remind you all that Goku has never beaten Vegeta in a 1v1 fight.
Leo Howard
>going on about later sagas
You missed the one that was most relevant to your point. Frieza Saga. Said villain's existence is owed to Vegeta's popularity. AT intended for Goku to have a rematch and win with Vegeta dying for good, but instead perma-death (and defeat) were made the price for the space slum lord's birth. The lizard was invented only to this end.
Beyond this point, Vegeta was changed as a character while evolving him (taking his time unlike with Piccolo). Often a useful plot tool, but his real merit was being popular. Just look how Bulma fawns over him .
Samuel Stewart
Based.
Michael Moore
She was fawning over Zarbon in that panel. She doesn't start caring about Bejita until it was convenient for the plot (Trunks)
Daniel Collins
>Zarbon
>that panel
Re-read the source material.
Lincoln Russell
Perhaps in his own head, for Goku he's just another friend who he has surpassed, left behind, many, many, many years ago.
Lucas Collins
>in his head
Just the opposite. He doesn't build up his own legend (oddly humble about his superiority in this case).
>for Goku
He's tops. His master, Bejita-sama. The Prince he dares not defy.
>left behind
I remember his attempts. EoZ was an especially pathetic case. Did he really think it would save him?
Christopher Wood
Lucas Kelly
Also, Galick Gun is better. And that's just canon.
Adrian Peterson
>Vegeta
Aaron Thompson
>Goku
Austin Evans
Bentley Fisher
You're not making any sense, please calm down, breathe and reformulate your answers.
Easton Smith
Blake Stewart
Jaxon Lewis
>TWIK
A familiar sound.
Connor Moore
Lucas Hill
Jordan Brooks
Carson Brooks
Oh baby.
1-0
Jackson Diaz
Sometimes the dog needs to be disciplined.
Evan Walker
>getting excited
About what? Vegeta's kick causing a KO for 1-0 ? At least he got his revenge when the rest put in work. Picture related for 1-1. Lucky guy.
Of course, he would then give up without a fight as Vegeta cucked them out of their ball (while murdering Zarbon in the revenge match). Not exactly a fight, so it can't be 2-1. Speaking of which, he makes Krillin do his bidding (you've already provided the picture). Not a fight, but I wonder if that wouldn't also favor Vegeta. A hard call to make. One could mention 18 being fed to a bug, but that's mean spirited.
In the end, 1-1 is their score. Better than Goku did. Pretty shitty of his 'best friend' to cockblock him on the big win's kill. All for a promise he would duck for years (only to get forced into for a second round of jobbing making it 2-0).