What is the best arc and best pokedex holder in your opinion (and why it is diamond)
Pokemon adventures
Someone actually reads the manga?
Yes
Him
Ruby
Yes, it was popular as shit here years ago, until /vp/ was made and no one was sure where the threads should go anymore.
Even now you have people that shitpost if you talk about it here. Its the best overall pokemon adaption.
red/green/blue arc was the best and remains the best. gold/silver ->ruby/sapphire was ok, everything emerald onward was dogshit
yellow is best girl
Lemme guess, you never actually read beyond Emerald because it annoyed you so much. So you just have to make up "Everything else is just as bad"?
DPP was great
WB is good
WB2 has shit protagonists
Sun/Moon X/Y were mostly unmemorable so far
ORAS was... not as good, but it had a moment or two. At least it shit on Zinnia a bit.
I read all of emerald, and DPP was boring as fuck. THEN I dropped it
Diamond and pearl chapter it's the best honestly. it has the most memorable moments the most memorable trio and the best boy
best dex holder canonically is crystal since she has a metric fuck ton of mons and even bunch of shinies what with her goal being to complete the dex/title is catcher
best arc FRLG red should have died shit was perfect reviving him was retarded
pkespec has always been Yea Forums people only got salty if you posted the games/anime on Yea Forumsa/ and for whatever reason /vp/ has always disliked pokespec its just x/y and sun/moon are pretty bad so threads are spars
>best arc FRLG red should have died shit was perfect reviving him was retarded
I would like if that happened. But still it's pokemon so i doubt it
I really like Pokespe but it's been kinda meh lately, mostly because I thought Sun and Moon were pretty weak games and I wasn't interested in the lore at all. I like the idea of White 2 being a former plasma grunt but the rest of the BW2 arc is also kinda boring.
RS or BW for me. DP was max comfy though and a good third. Honorable mentions to XY for trying something different.
>Best dex holder
My boy here. Or Dia.
DP is the best arc or the one that has least bullshit in it.
There are a lot of candidates for the best dex holder but Dia definitely isn't one of them since he only started doing his task for real on the second-half.
Though he is the best protagonist by far. It's evident that the mangaka likes drawing him and even made effort for the costumes he wore.
Pt is a mistake as well as E, XY, ORAS, B2W2
I thought RS was the best at first but then it got a little bit over the top at times and Ruby in ORAS just ruined it for me.
>At least it shit on Zinnia a bit.
What was wrong with her?
worst dex holder? (ignoring emerald since he's a worthless cuck)
w2
Pretty much everything, old post
>She's unironically probably the worst character in pokemon, and probably more evil than any evil organization boss to date, except with the added benefit of the game wanting desperately for you to empathize with her and think that everything she did was right and good.
>She's so bad that in the manga they had Rayquaza basically kill her just to even things out slightly and make her slightly more palpable, since someone finally called her out on her shit in a way that she couldn't instantly negate.
>Bitch basically almost destroyed the world three times over, because she wanted to be the chosen one and was trying to force things to work out
>And the world would have ended all of those times if you weren't there to save things
>She tried having Groudon and Kyogre go berserk and destroy all the ecozones in the world to force Rayquaza to act in order to stop them, but Rayquaza wasn't acting to stop anything because he lacked the power to do it at the moment. He couldn't stop anything even if he wanted to because he didn't have any primal power stored up.
>So she basically would have ended the world right there if you didn't save her ass without her realizing it.
>Then a meteor is heading towards the world, scientists found a way to solve it, and she destroyed the way to save the world because "NOOOO ONLY RAYQUEZA IS SUPPOSED TO SAVE THE WORLD, HUMANS GET LOST"
>Its not that she didn't keep the link cable around just in case her plan fucked up and she accidentally destroyed the world due to her arrogance, no she destroyed it because she could only accept her own solutions as correct, and anyone else's choice was wrong. And the game instantly forces you to agree with her choice for doing this.
>Then she beats up all your friends and enemies in the game, like a fucking Mary Sue, beats up everyone and steals all the mega rings for the rest of the game. She literally is some strange Mary Sue but worse
I mean to get into it a bit more, she's one of the fucking worst characters ever that the game just wants to you think was good and wants you to agree with. She literally caused everything, but the game keeps trying to play sad music and go "she's so noble" about all her bullshit. She shat on everyone, when she's the one who almost committed genocide a few times over, and she was only bailed out of her bullshit by a deus ex machina in the end, and she refused to learn anything.
The Salamance that ruined Ruby's life was also hers, she planned out everything that day and had it try to kill the kids because "The ends justify the means". And she had Ruby, Ruby's dad, and everyone else take responsibility for her evils just because.
Its like a writers waifu character was inserted into the game, written badly as fuck, did everything wrong, but the writer really wants you to love her despite every part of her existence being awful.
Another old post
>Because Zinnia sent her Salamence to traumatize and possibly even murder Ruby and Sapphire back when they were kids (this was actually present in the original R/S chapters, it's just that we've only now learned the mence belonged to her).
>She did this because (iirc) she learned they were Rayquaza's chosen ones and she got jelous and decided to try and get rid of them both because her thirsty ass wanted to be the chosen one instead.
>Also, she nearly destroyed the world because she was the one who got Team Magma/Aqua to get the primals to fight to begin with (at least in the games). She's also very proud of this.
>She ALSO (again at least in the game I don't read the manga) nearly destroyed our world again for a SECOND time by destroying the only possible means they had of getting rid of the meteorite, dooming the world to destruction on the offhand chance that, hypothetically, another random world out there will be destroyed by it, despite having literally NO proof to back it up in the games themselves and being a crazy, raving homeless lunatic to literally everyone yet expected to be taken seriously.
>Also (in the games, again) she beats the shit out of a few kids, knocks the protag out hard enough for them to be out an entire day, steals from basically everyone, robs people of all their stones, etc, and is in general just a really really horrible person.
>Also in the manga specifically she believed herself to be some kind of savior and was practically demanding Rayquaza to listen to her commands while she's still trying to beat the shit out of his actual chosen ones.
>I actually can't think of a single reason why he shouldn't have just killed her and she still somehow manages to survive this, though at the very least she now has to live with the fact that A: she's been disowned by her god and is considered a monster, and B: her body is so horribly fucked up by it she's actually wheelchair bound so she can't walk anymore.
DPP both best arc and MCs. Diamond is great but Pearl is better, what a bro he is.
Shit I'm basically going through the archive for these posts since I know the arguments have already been made dozens of times without me coming up with new shit on the spot. I don't even have to look that hard.
I've only read up until Nimbasa of BW (it was a difficult reading BW and beyond for a while due to every site fucking it up)
I have a hard time picking my favorite arc, but it might be RGB or RS, though GSC and DPPT were both excellent as well. Picking my favorite dex holder is even harder but I'd say either Red, Green, or Platina.
F U G
I will never get tired of seeing this. Praise FUG
Classic
Best dexholder is Gold