Dragon Ball Super

How did you react when Broly was leaked to be the next antagonist in a canon movie?

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I was surprised by how low toriyama and toei can get

I screamed and clapped like every "black person reacts to..." video

>I was surprised by how low toriyama and toei can get
Low on money? They're making plenty now.

Anger. Hated the redesign with a passion, still do.

However I just watched the movie for the first last night, and I gotta admit, was better than I expected, especially after how bad the last two, and Super were (except for when the CGI kicked in and the quality took a nose dive.)

Toriyama just needs to stop being allowed to do character designs in his own series...

DB Super Broly was a garbage movie. All these fucking retcons. Enough already.

Someone is doing their best to keep these girls relevant...what about us Jobrenbros...are we doing anything other than shitpost on 4channel?

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Is UI basically your full potential unlocked naturally?

Something like that and also a don't need to see auto-dodge, above all it's garbage and puts DB on the same level as Sailor Moon.

DB Super is finally good again.

Now if only Toyo can improve his panels...

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UI who?

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Why is the last anime antagonist so... pathetic?

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Yes yes, for me it's Broly !!

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>Jiren

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>Broly

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Worked

Get a load of this boomer. Stay mad that nuDB continues to blow away your nostalgia.

a more important question: where's the Yamchad in this rank?

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How hard does Toppo (Jiren's sugar daddy) get mogged by Kale?
Only canon source

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What retcons?

Tori and Toyo needs to stop making shit OCs.

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Far right is inexcusable. Modern DB was a mistake.

>excusing the voredroid

Both are shit. But far right is literally Deviant Arc circa 2003 level of bad.

17

Really? Then why cant they make a decently animated series? The quality of dragon ball has dropped immensly since 1989. You would think that one of the most popular series of all time would have decent animations and good fight sequnces, but apparently not

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not bad

I laughed at Kaiserneko getting booty-blasted by it

It's even worse than what we thought jirenfriends...

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Hate to say it, but, Majin 21 is one of the few new characters Toriyama has given us that I actually don't hate...however I strongly suspect that it has more to do with nostalgia vibe she has more than anything else...

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>Jobren

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You need to hate the Majin race.

I love majins.

No such thing, Majin Buu is the only Majin in existence other than 21.

Go back.

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Until we get to the Ms. Buu arc. Which will never come because we'll never get to that five years where Goku ignores Vegeta, Bulma, and everyone not in his family, end they'll never get past the ending of DBZ.

Exactly, so, No such thing. Just Buu, and some android milf with his DNA swimming around inside her.

There is such a thing since DB's timeline isn't linear any more. It jumps back and forth.

>Caulifla is a necklet
Caulifriends...

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Alright since you like that crap, I'll bite.
What other designs do you like?

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This. The new series should start making its own iconic moments instead of just rehashing everything.

No. Dodging and just releasing latent energy are hardly the same principle.

I like Pan. Haven't watched GT though. How did that show handle her relationship with Grampa Goku and her natural fighting prowess?

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>U6 waifutard talking shit about anyone even if's jobren

>the lowest on the foodchain talks back at the second lowest on the foodchain
looks like you need a tranquilizer mutt

She got super wet for SS4 Goku.

>lowest on the food chain
Try again.

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COPE

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oh yeah, i'm sorry it's
>Waifutard>Jobren>Shithan
there

I honestly prefer Majin 21 over her human counterpart's design. Even if she's ANOTHER character dressed like a genie.

I'm just disappointed that in FighterZ's story proper, Evil 21 was just a petulant child screaming about candy. I really thought from her design, and first bit of released artwork, that she'd be an "Ara Ara" type.

Like, if the character is a sexy, tall woman in high heels and jewelry, how do you NOT expect her to act refined and elegant? Especially when her ult turns her enemies into fancy, high-class desserts. As opposed to the other Buus, which just go for gumballs, or cartoon cookies.

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Because Japanese animators don't get paid for shit

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There are more some irrelevant jobbers in the middle but yes, CHADhan is at the top.

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>CHADhan is at the top
i'm talking about the lowest foodchain, get your daydreaming out of here

>liking the voredroid
>milffag

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Then you are very mistaken and a retard.

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the fuck happened

Can he take on Vegeta?

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>no argument
time for your daily rat poison, mutt

What's the result?

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Trunks

Do you not understand how greater than symbols work? Do they not teach basic math in mexico?

wife kisser candidate

Your post was too worthless to counter.
>no arguments

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It’s not a matter of if she will surpass Jiren. It’s a matter of when. Never forget this.

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>Your post was too worthless to counter
hey, worthless post for a worthless individual right?

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>toyo made right
source?

If I'm being completely honest, it's a VERY short list.

From the moment that hairless cat came on the scene, the only designs I've liked have been Caulifla, Majin 21, and Toriyama's most recent addition Moro.

I found SSG to be visually disappointing, laughed my ass off at how stupid SSB and Golden Frieza looked (I still think of bubblegum Icecream everytime their hair turns blue), and found most of the Alternate Universe fighters boring looking ESPECIALLY the Grey that stole superman's body. Tori then had to take Broly and slap him in the same boring generic armor we've seen on hundreds of other characters, hell even Bardock wasn't safe from his influence and got a design downgrade in the movie.

Toriyama just doesn't seem to have any passion in his work anymore, and seems to just be settling for lazy uninspired designs with the occasional decent look or concept leaking out every few characters.

>Caulifla
Why

I want them to have fun space adventures together.

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No you just can't do better.

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>Toriyama's most recent addition Moro
Toriyama did not do the manga, Toyo did

Nah quarter breeds are worthless. She won't be even Krillin tier

>Shithan

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>No you just can't do better
i'll decide that one myself

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It was fucking hilarious seeing the first key visual get leaked and all the Yamoshifags were denialfagging, only to get BTFO by Toei a while later.

Jiren was more of an obstacle for the heroes to overcome than a genuine villain. He has no personal reason to hate Goku and is only eliminating him under Velmouds orders.

>Caulifla
You definitely need to get help.

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>Jobhan

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>Mierdahan

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>Bostahan

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>spineless unwashed good-for-nothing monkey
You will just tell yourself
>I-I-I WILL KEEP POSTING OTHER CHARACTERS TO HIDE BEHIND

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>>I-I-I WILL KEEP POSTING OTHER CHARACTERS TO HIDE BEHIND
wanna go off topic now? i guess you really can't win

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>spic calling another spic out
Amlo pls

reminder that Gohan is stronger than Kale and Golden Jobber.

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That was on topic, holy fucking dumb. You are too scared and keep posting characters thinking the would be a repellent to me. Good to know that I scare you so much.

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macaco

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Tube top and personality mainly, honestly even her design is bland, pretty much just thinking with my dick on that one.
Seriously? Fuck...

nice headcanon

>That was on topic
then let us review the topic,
>talks about the lowest foodchain
>shithancuck is hungry for attention
>puts him lower than jobrentard
>complains about pic
sure thing kid

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>revisionism
Cope
>still throwing every character in the series at me thinking it would stop me
I will accept a concession if you were to present one, limited offer.

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>freeza jobs to Kale
>blueku gets pushed back by Kale
>Gohan ties with Kefla
do the math

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As dead as Jobren's future in the franchise.

she acted like a cock-hungry college girl, only instead of cock, it was sweets.

whoa where the hell did the posts go?

>Mods deleted Jiren posts
It's official.

The Janitors have been actually deleting shitposts, which is why we aren't going through 2-3 of these threads per day anymore.

rip these threads then

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Look out Gohan, it's a furry jobber from space; the kind of character Vegeta would've vaporized in the Namek saga. You'd better job hard just to tie with him.

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>It's official.
What is?

Pretty much.

Honestly Shithanfags are pretty refreshing after the Jiren/Broly arguments

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>namek vegeta tier
>when he constantly BTFO golden Jobza
Dyspo could've cost U7 the tournament if it wasn't for Gohan and you can't dispute that.

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>vegeta
OH NO NO

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>Honestly Shithanfags are pretty refreshing
Newfag

Ah, so no more memes? What the fuck can I discuss then?

It changes nothing to you though. You are still the punching bag of the thread.

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>no arguments
3>2>1
The larger number is chased by the little crocodile. Congratulations on graduating 4th grade arithmetic Pedro.

just meme 3 times faster

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Memes don't get deleted, only low-quality shitposts

The chodeforce gets refreshing after so much time being gone

How can anyone like Android 21?
She represents to me everything I hate about post-DBZ.

I honestly think the only good dragon ball content right now are the movies. Everything else just feels like it doesn't have the heart into it.

Literally porn.

DBZ and DBS feels weird to become waifu fags with. It's more of an actual fighting manga than the slice of life romance waifufags go towards and Super feels like kids shit.

Now dragon ball on the other hand....

Blame Cakefags.

that isn't even cake-like

ded sho
ded thred

not our fault since the thread got renewed by jannies

Sleepy thread...not dead.

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ENTER CHADHAN

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Enter Chadren Heston.

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The new SS forms make me want sorbet.

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>Good Dragon Ball content
Nice oxymoron

>sorbet
f-forgive me... please...!

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In a FIVE-way rumble between Full Magic Power MUI MORO, LSSGSSE MUI BROLY, MUI Limit Breaker Hakaishin JIREN, SSGSSE MUI CELL Dorado and MUI Golden Metal COOLER, who would be the last man standing?

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Based and a real CHAD entering
Holy FUCKING CRINGE

I'm back, Gohan! And my new form is even more PERFECT than the last!

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Reminder:

Old DB = Original Trilogy

Super = Prequel Trilogy

GT = Sequel Trilogy

The saddest thing is that I can actually picture him showing up like that in DBS.

It's funny but the new movie just made me like the old one even more and I think it did a lot of things better. Broly is still a basic bitch with barely any character or motivation in the new movie, so it does nothing to address the weaknesses of the original. It's also just a fuckload of fanservice, CGI that makes my eyes bleed, and a weird ost. The only thing it accomplished that helps the franchise is the new character designs, which I hope they use in the future because the anime's looked fucking awful and were a huge bitch to animate.

You got the order wrong.
>Dragon Ball = Original Trilogy
The iconic and universally acclaimed origins of the series. First section was great, middle section was the best, third section was okay but not as good.

>GT = Prequel Trilogy
The most hyped revival ever at the time that turned out to be pretty mediocre and flawed.

>Super = Super Trilogy
At last a "proper" continuation... That turned out to be kind or bad. Tries to just recreate and call back to a lot of stuff from the original but usually misses the mark.

Cell will never come back because he was made to be Gohan's enemy. To bring back Cell would mean to make Gohan the focus again.

>Broly is still a basic bitch with barely any character or motivation in the new movie, so it does nothing to address the weaknesses of the original.
But he's not motivated by a crying baby, so that's something. He's also an abuse victim played straight, which is fairly original for DB.

>just a fuckload of fanservice, CGI that makes my eyes bleed, and a weird ost.
Yeah, but it's a lot more tightly-written than Super. There's nothing pants-on-head retarded like Infinite Zamasu or emo bitch Jiren, so it comes off a lot better.

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>SSGSSE
What the fuck?

Poor Gohan. Massive buildup, massive letdown.

Soon

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Name one DB character that can even put a scratch on him

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>implying Toriyama gives a shit about any of that anymore
He drags Gohan around through the story like a ragdoll even though he's supposed to be retired as an academic. The only reasons that Cell hasn't been done are that Frieze is more popular and iconic, he is an absolute bitch to animate, and he got pretty boring after getting his last form. They'd have to do a pretty big shakeup to his personality to consider him. But hey, DB is known for reaching new lows and I'm sure eventually Toei will reach far enough into its asshole to pull him out.

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>Yamcha Dios, D tier
Yamcha after discovering how to use God and master his God Superman form.
>Lord Yamcha, Dios de la Destrucción, B tier
Yamcha accepted the responsibility of being the god of destruction, to replace Lord Champa, who accidentally killed while fighting.
>Yamcha Primero, SS tier
In another timeline, Super Yamcha stole Bulma's time machine and ripped Yamchas several times out of several timelines, then merged with all of them.
>Tien Místico, C tier
Tien meditated for a year with Old Kai in the Room of Spirit and Time. This form is now your base.
>Super Saiyan 5 Goku, SSSSS tier
Goku, having perfected Full Power SS3, mixed the form with Full Power SS4. Then I mixed this form with Pure God Ki and Ultra Instinct, creating what you see as the roof of Saiyan's transformations, nicknamed "Super Saiyan 5". This era was very unstable at first, but it can also be used and can be used passively.
>Xicor, D tier
Half Kai, half Saiyan. A kai stole Goku's seed to give a light to his son.
>Hyper Saiyan Bakusa, F tier
The son of Future Gohan and Future Bulma, from an alternative future timeline. Bulma used the Capsule technology to extract all the power of Saiyan physiology as possible, causing hisregular form of Super Saiyan to produce an unprecedented burst of power. I can not reach SS2 or SS3 and I have not seen access to God ki, since they have never been discovered.
>Super Saiyan Mente 2 Raditz, E tier
From a timeline where Raditz survived and became one of the good guys. This was the way he took when Super Buu killed his daughter. Raditz achieves Super Saiyan 2, and unknowingly uses daughter's soul as energy instead of touching his ki, creating the form of Super Saiyan Mint 2. The soul of daughter did not survive, none of that remains.
>Último Guerrero Z, SSS tier
Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan, Piccolo, Krillin, Yamcha and Tien merged.
>Chiaotzu Gigante, A tier
The dragon balls of Chiaotzu are large and desirable.

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>But hey, DB is known for reaching new lows
They won't fuck up the Moro arc....right?

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Probably meant to say "SSJGSSJE"

Animated series Superman or comic book Superman that nobody gives a fuck about because Comics are dying off and that is written to be absurdly overpowered? Animated would get fucking destroyed by Saiyan Arc Vegeta. Capeshit book version has so many different writers that it can be hard to tell.

>and a weird ost
>Not getting hyped as some random dude starts chanting Go Broly! Go! Go! Gogeta! Go! Go!

Based CHADten
He may be weaker than his baby niece and every other fighter but he's still pretty strong!

How do comictards even keep up with all the different writers who all have different rules and powers and characterizations? It's a really messy medium.

It's really easy when the Big 2 go out of their way to essentially piss on continuity every couple years

So is it true that the anime is on hiatus just so the manga to get far enough for the anime to adapt it directly?

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Because they're either action, sci-fi, or mystery stories. Not ongoing shonen. Each comic run tells a self-contained story and the focus is never simply about power level autism. Most of Superman's enemies test his intellect, resolve, and morals more than his strength. Or it's about Superman overcoming something he's not simply strong enough to defeat.

Other than a few ultra autists they don't. Comics are dying. DC is doing better than Marvel but not by much, and DC still makes occasional half-decent low-budget animated movies. Western superheroes have been reduced to marketing tools for normies to consume in shitty live action movies, and Marvel is btfoing DC there.

I wouldn't doubt it

>goku devolves even further from Toei's retard to Tori's fighting autist sociopath

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What an absolute chad.

based

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the video is choppy because they had to cut some parts where he failed to do a task and re-record it

We're in the dark age of comic books.

of course they flopped, they traced from DB, remember captain america

Caulifla would make a great wife for Future Gohan

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It is incredibly painful to be a Wally West fan these days.

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But Gohan has a Hank Hill tier neck when he transforms into Ultimate Gohan.

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Caulifla doesn't date men who job to furries.

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>implying chads don't take the neckpill

Not gonna lie the thing that kept me from getting into western comics is stories that you have to get issues from different stories in order to keep up with it

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>they ruin each other just as badly as Gohan and Videl did
>caulifags and gohan spics become even more butthurt

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That pisses me off so much. I tried reading Nightwing, and it was almost unbearable how many times it had to crossover with some stupid edgelord Batman or Birds of Prey storyline.

>neckpill
ore wa Super Vejita

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>this single image puts Toei's entire animation team into fetal positions on the floor
And yeah for all of the flak anime and manga get for being autistic, you have to be way more dedicated to follow western shit.

Quarter breeds are even stronger than half breeds.

That's why silver age and golden age comics are so great. You can just pick one up and read it. If it's part of a multi-part story it'll be numbered.

Source?

It's so weird not seeing this gif being used as a ass smelling image

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP

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Still pushing that ultimate form transformation bullshit huh?

Which episode is this from?

It's when Cell shows up to challenge Piccolo and 17.

user, she's the weird creepy ass mary sue(in every damned way a litteral text book definition of mary sue)kid of vegeto and bra that NO ONE who reads DBM likes on any level.

Her feats mean very little.

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ah thanks

Don’t worry, user. I know.

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How does Android 17 fit into the power scaling list now? He is stronger and weaker than who?

these threads since super ended what the fuck happened is it always this bad now? what happened to the chads of Yea Forums

Everyone loves a fat cat.

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>Zeno-tier
Zeno

>Angel-tier
Grand Minister
Other Angels

>above GoD-tier
Broly & Jiren (I'm not starting this fucking argument)

>GoD-tier
Vermoud
Beerus
Other GoDs
(maybe Merged Zamasu?)

>SSB-tier
Goku
Vegeta
GoD Toppo
Golden Frieza
Goku Black

>below SSB-tier
SS Rage Future Trunks
Android 17

annoyed,
The movie was not ideal, but I still enjoyed it in the end.

Waifu droid the only good thing to come out from Tori's brain since the 90s

Okay, thanks!

lol

This list just makes me hate the Zamasu arc even more, that shit was all over the place. I would say Broly is GoD-tier, along with both Goku/Vegeta fusions. Only Jiren and MUI have been shown above GoD. Beerus seemed very calm during the Broly movie as if he was confident he could manage it, and Frieza lasted an hour against the guy alone even if it was just meant to be comedic.

No prob. Super's kinda vague with the power levels, but this seemed to be generally accepted.

Capeshit were always trash targeted towards children only around to market toys with a few exception like the Alan Moore comics. They'll never compare to manga.

>Broly listed first
Chadrenbros you know what to do...

Power levels were inconsistent and vague as shit in that arc. Present Zamasu loses to SS2 Goku, but Future Zamasu can take on SSB Goku. Merged Zamasu is apparently roughly on par with SSB Vegetto, but Goku alone can hold him off for a little while. Vegeta gets ganked by Black the first time, and kicks the shit out of him the second, and all this isn't even mentioning the idiotic asspull that was Super Saiyan Rage Trunks.

I liked Zamasu, but fuck was his arc a mess in the second half.

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>Vegeta gets ganked by Black the first time, and kicks the shit out of him the second
remember hyperbolic time chamber, everything else is correct tho

>Only Jiren and MUI have been shown above GoD
wow much strong break rock they are!
>Beerus was calm during the movie despite 2 enemies stronger than him fighting
Cool, he was super calm when UI Goku and Jiren were fighting in the ToP.
>Freeza being slapped around by SS Broly means that the form that made Gogeta jump to SSB is... something...I don't know kek
Based.

Yeh, that's true. It's just kinda jarring I guess.

What really gets me though is Merged Zamasu. I have absolutely no fucking idea where he ranks, power-wise, and I don't think the writers did either. Lower GoD-tier?

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The DCAU was the peak of western superhero cartoons. Pretty much every show in its canon aside from some shit like Static Shock had god tier art design or writing or both. Other than that and some of animated DC movies, I don't really care for any of it. The only Marvel movies I ever bothered watching was the first Deadpool and a couple Spider Mans which were alright, X-men is for fags and Avengers looks forced and boring.

I'm still mad how they treated Vegito in that arc. He had maybe 6 minutes of screen time with meh performance and then fucks off. The entire point of his character in Z was the personification of power creep, he might as well have had an infinite power level. He was practically a gag character like Arale. Toei gave him over 50 minutes of solid action and fanservice, that shit was amazing. Then Super brings him out just for merch and it's just embarrassing.

>Chadrenbros you know what to do...
We commit Sudoku...

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consider him like moro and put his immortality gimmick to GoD level i suppose

I more or less agree with the placements.

This have potential to be great but come on, after DBS we can expect only disappointment, movie Broly is a great character and everthing about his development is great too, now he have a reason to be part of the Z warriors and join the adventures for more epic fights, sadly the only moment we will see him again will be in a new tournament where he will lose against the poop man and falling from the stage, just fucking great.

I fucking hate this recent trend of bringing back villains. They are basically doomed to job and that's it.

>O-Ore wa Supa Bej- NOOOO CELL-SAMA PLEASE HAVE MER- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Yeah, I never thought a Goku/Vegeta fusion would be treated as anything less than the ultimate badass, yet here we are. He occupies five minutes of Merged Zamasu's time, basically. Might as well have had Zamasu stop to take a bathroom break.

>trying to apply power levels to this retarded trash
dbs is like stupid capeshit

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at least metamoran is still a viable choice

>being this much of a nigger
It was strongly hinted Jiren was above a GoD from the beginning, or at least above his universe's GoD, and that's before his autistic tantrum power up. Beerus couldn't do shit regardless in ToP so his reaction is worthless there. If you are trying to argue that Blue Gogeta is above GoD then you would have to agree the superior Blue fusion would be the same, which would put that fag merged Zamasu above GoD as well. And once Gogeta went Blue it was just as much of a one-sided beatdown as it was before the arbitray powerups in CGI land, so it doesn't really mean anything for what tier Broly is in.

>the only moment we will see him again will be in a new tournament where he will lose against the poop man and falling from the stage,
Poor Hit had an incredibly efficient rival-to-jobber character arc, I was stunned. Two fucking appearances was all it took.

Exactly. You know who's still regarded as a classic, menacing villain? Cell. You know who's NEVER come back to life just to job? Cell.

But Broly made sense, unlike Freeza, and you can see how shit things can get with new villains, see Moro.

6-year-old Pan beat the shit out of teenage Goten.

DBS by Toei, the manga is infinitely more tolerable despite some changes.

Gogeta is clearly the superior fusion, I guess. Those Supreme Kais fuck everything up, even the Potara. No wonder Zamasu got so pissed.

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What's you favorite thing about CHADren?

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>kid of vegeto and bra
That's weird as hell. Doesn't that make her dad her half-grampa too?

Him getting erased

Don't think about it too hard. Save that kind of fanfic trash for the spics and yuropoors.

his authority over his own GoD

Salagirbros....

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How he's not a boring asshole in the manga.

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She's a kid of Vegeto and Bulma actually. Chichi didn't get upset over it because Goku had been dead for so long (lol)

>using Toeishit to scale off of Toriyama's work
Zamasu isn't above anyone relevant and neither is Vegito.
The only characters confirmed above Beerus are manga Vegito and Broly, Gogeta doesn't need to be stated, we saw how he scales with someone of Beerus caliber.

what the fuck

That he won't appear again in canon

>fr*nch people making a webcomic
it was bound to happen sooner or later

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Being irrelevant

about him

There's only one villain I want back and redeemed.

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Why do we need another Vegeta/Piccolo/Tien?

it's not like we'll get a random good guy character anyway

>>>>>>>>redditz
PFFFT OHNONONONONO

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Don't bully the MC's brother.

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Those are some big fucking claws.

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Is this Twitter or are jannies specifically targeting DBS threads?
Jirenfags really done this time, all thanks to one ban evading cuckoo obsessed with Broly...
We really need the anime to come back.

Assuming Gohan and Piccolo get their own character arcs then the Warrior Z are looking pretty good
>Goku
>Vegeta
>Broly
>Piccolo
>Gohan
>Majin Buu
>Freeza
>17
2 more and we can finally have a good team, who can fill those spots?

adult goten and trunks

Meerus and the namekian savior.

Gogeta and Vegito

There's only one man they can rely on to ensure their victory.

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Future Trunks
Jaco

>Jaco
With Meerus around, who is probably SS Vegeta and Goku level?

Jaco's cuter.

GT has more in common with the Sequels than the Prequels. It tries very little new and plays things safe, it's made without the original author as a cash grab, it literally IS a sequel series, and it's the worst of the bunch. What original things it does try turn out to be some of the worst parts of the series.

In contrast, Super is much more like the Prequels, having plenty of shitty moments that fit in with the original creator going senile, exaggerating character traits beyond the point of it being sensible, and having a lot of retcons that make no sense. S-Cells = Midichlorians.

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Tenshinhan (Chaozu absorbed)

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>and it's the worst of the bunch
It's not quite as shit as super but that's comparing rotten apples and rotten oranges.

Mech suit Bulma.

Wrong.

Why Bulma doesn't just ask Sheng Long for the instructions to make a new 17/18 batch?

>The ALPHAbet, an ABSOLUTE FUNDAMENTAL in english language has Broly first

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She doesn't want to. Why would she? She has her precious Son-Kun.

Dragon Ball is literally a no-risk undertaking. At this point everyone will swallow whatever shit they throw out.

Unless Goku isn't in it.

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Pretty shocked. But not as mad as other autists were. And I was a Yamoshi-fag. But in the end I can tolerate Nu-Broly. He's a good boy.

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2-0

The answer hinges on whether or not you are a mexican.

3-0, soon.

good pet

>jobs to a small ki attack from Vegeta the moment he uses Goku cells against Gohan

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing Beerus shit on Jobgeta for a third time.

you honor me bejita-sama. my granddaughter is yours

As I look forward to Goku jobbing to his Nemesis Prince a third time.

Sorry Pablo, whatever fanfiction you've been reading isn't canon.

My skin was cold.

Pity I never saw it in cinemas because fucking Australia never showed it in cinemas.
Super pissed.

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Whose the right?
That character looks badass.

Manga SSB Goku is playable in Heroes, and has Hakai as his super attack.

Basically the Gohan of comics, but even Gohan has it great compared to Wally. At least Gohan is living happily with his family.

I really hate how Toei tries to push Ultimate as some form when it’s not. It’s Gohan with all his latent abilities to the surface, but not just that, every aspect of his is heightened to their prime. So loses the lanklet look and becomes a chad.

>Pity I never saw it in cinemas because fucking Australia never showed it in cinemas.
That's pretty dumb.

Holy shit, DBS BROLY EXPOSED!!!

twitter.com/YK29Bro9603/status/1132934435236483072

Oh NO NO NO

Brolybros...

No, its the faggot on /qa/ who cried to the mods.

>How did you react when Broly was leaked to be the next antagonist in a canon movie?
by not giving a shit and stop watching dragon ball supercringe

but toei has the best pay out of ALL studios, and still manages to do worse than somehing like feel

Is Toei trying to push it as a "form" now? It was always just Gohan transforming into his most powerful natural self.

Explain

For 2 days now posts have been mass deleted in super threads, seemingly instantly.

A Gotenfag... The rarest of the rarest. I am happy to not be alone

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I also want him back with Bardock and Gine... ;_;

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>nuBardock
>gine
>jobber
Never ever.

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Will AT make Goku surrender as before with the Vegeta cells incident or will our Prince put the mad dog down for good?

Trunks is undefeated against Goten.

They have fucked up their explanations for the New forms SO Bad. Ultra instinct is literally the Art of moving without thinking, it barely should add any strenght to your attacks.

Same goes for God Ki, it's just the preservation of your ki. Here I can understand that ALL the pressure and force of ki is channeled into an attack or does not get lost, which multiplies your output while not wasting the Energy. Going martial arts wise, it should Do nothing for your strenght. This works however with the Super blue Form vegeta takes. Infusing your body with the ki which wont leak into your muscles, that's how you get stronger.

It's the exact kind of creative bankruptcy I've come to expect from Super, so it didn't have much of an impact on me either way. The movie itself is sort of stupid too, but it's well-animated enough that it's still a fun watch and one of the better Dragon Ball movies. I don't want to see Broly ever again, though.

>But he's not motivated by a crying baby

It never was about Goku robbing him of his good nights sleep. You failed to understand that that scene and the execution of Paragus with Broly happened the same day. Broly just associated Gokus crying/face with the Day this traumatic Event happened (He got stabbed and thrown away like junk).

Remember when Gohan was cool?

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I remember a time when the anime tried to make him cool and failed, yeah.

>They have fucked up their explanations for the New forms SO Bad. Ultra instinct is literally the Art of moving without thinking, it barely should add any strenght to your attacks.
I agree with this.

I do, user, I do It still hurts

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Based user

Why are Goku's sons such disappointments? Of his entire family it seems like the only one that seems to actually like fighting as much as he does is his granddaughter, Pan.

>in before tori create her to be useless like the rest

Goku was waiting for Pan to be born, so that he can start a new chapter of life with her to actually create powerful off-springs.

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The human side of them makes them complete bitches that rather worry about other dumbshit than getting stronger. I can relate with Goten at least.

B... Brolybros...

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>full saiyans are natural warriors in every genetic way
>full humans have much lower potential but are much smarter fighter and have better fighting spirits
>half-saiyans have the potential to be stronger than either bur their conflicting nature leads them to procrastinate
>quarter saiyand have more of a human spirit while still inheriting the saiyan advantages
Seems the more diluted Saiyan blood gets the higher potential they have.

>seconds before disaster
Jobhan ruining everything for a change

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Because Goku's a shit parent and Chichi raised them essentially by herself. He doesn't even know or care when they were born, it's no wonder they don't take after him. Luckily, Yenma gave him the son he always wanted in Uub, someone he can raise to be his own living punching bag without his wife nagging him to get a job.

Goku probably is glad in hindsight, had he not died instead of 7 years of traning with the best guys in the afterlife he would have been forced to do farming and help chichi raise goten and gohan.

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Ugly dyke.

>we want the mexican audience

Yes that's Dragon Ball

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Dat leg raise shows she's dtf

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>first boy she's ever seen naked
No doubt about it.

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FEA.

>Chadhan bangs this every single night

No wonder Yea Forums hates him so much. Incel envy is a dangerous thing.

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Incorrect, Spopovich and Tyrone fuck that every night

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>fucking a tomboy
No wonder Gohan's a jobber.

Hah, sick.

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your cuck headcanon is irrelevant here though

go jerk your 2 incher to another spopovich doujin or something

I-It's just an homage g-guys

Cope my pet, even Dende takes a ride on the village bike

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And when he grows, she's tiny compared to him.
>Imagine

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>dogposter is an unironic cuckold and an anti-Gohan faggot
makes sense

It is pretty cool.

It's size difference either way.
such a cute ship!

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>he comes for 3-0

>cucking your grandma out of her husband's first kiss
Brutal.

Nice headcanon.

no point conversing with them they will just spam.

>stalking Brolybros Twitter just to post something trivial
J-Jirenbros...

It's just one.

>even that horrible movie had more originality than 2018 Toei

>let me make Goku smaller and overlap him on top of Jobren
Fucking brilliant Jirenbro, much better than to cut his head, someone would've noticed if you did that!

J-Jirenbros they can't keep getting away with it...

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Based Keru chan!

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Fpbp

month after month after month...Jinericfriends...

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youtube.com/watch?v=BWI3d7tC2VY
SOUL

>clearly smaller
JobrenTARDS are the scum of Yea Forums

This special looks like garbage.

It's a shame because I really liked the idea of turtle hermit Krillin too.

I didn't notice how cute Kale is until I started using her in SDBH.

Enter GRIPren

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Stop defending Toei/Shuiesha and the mangaka
You know damned well every stupid decision can be laid at their feet.

Litterally the only things in Super that can be called toriyama's are the overall plot(maybe)in some places, some of the stuff in the mostly poorly thought out broly movie and Scells.
Everything else stinks of soulless cashgrab, VAs pulling rank, and lack of talent.

She'd have to wish that she was as smart as Gero too.
She had 16's body and couldn't figure out how to fix him without finding Gero's blueprints in his head.
Worst part is that she could only manage to make a single flimsy shut off remote rather then create a shut off button that could shut them both off from the other side of the planet.

Gero was kind of a big deal.
None and I mean NONE of the tech from universe...4? was as advanced as 17, 18, 19, gero himself or even fucking Cell.

Is there anything this man can't grip?

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Goku lead eps are the least popular eps user.
Also, they've fucked the pooch now.
There is no place to take super and the popularity of Japanese Superman and his annoying voice is in the fucking toilet precisely because they are fucking it up with writing and personality for the lead.
Nothing matters
Everything is fucking retarded
The fights, ALL OF THEM, are still inferior to OPM season 1.

They are trying to push it as a form to sell toys.
In reality it's no more him transforming then master roshi transforms when he gets swole.

It's like saying "powering up" = "transforming".

No.
No.
No.
If it was about all of that then he'd have lost his shit the MOMENT he saw Vegetta.
No, it was about fucking Goku.
Some retarded as fuck suit that they should throw this potentially good movie and good moment of character growth and explanation of the Saiyajins past into the fucking dumpster to give Goku the fucking lead position.
And to make matters worse they had Vegeta sit on his knees like a cuck who's prepping the bull.
I shit you not, obvious failed attempt at forcing Goku's importance and as the lead was the absolute weakest worst part of that fucking movie and brings it down to shit levels.

No piece of fanfiction anywhere acknowledges this bullshit.
Even toei or shueisha themselves will NEVER bring that shit back up or even hint at it being a thing in canon ever again.

Goku was taught UI by Popo decades ago.
God ki is just a fuck ugly and gaudy copy of Perfected Super Saiyajin.

Is that it?

When will Toriyama make Broly as the new main character of DB Franchise?

B-Bejita-sama.... m-my wife....please...

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*would've

By killing off the shrek thot.

Cringe

>The first fucking normal DB we have in a long time
what happened?

Enter GODly

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You mean normal thread, or what?

Why are those WCF figures fucking huge?

Any SS4 Vegeto Xeno toys?

like a normal, functional thread
not like what happened to this goddamn thread for the past few months

Mods started banning Jirenspammers and Gokuspammers. Since Brolyspammers and "KISS MY WIFE, BEJITA"-spammers were mostly just reacting to them, shitposting in general has died down.

autism the post.

CHADku

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And yet Bulma built a time machine, only shorthanded by necessary fuel that Beerus wouldn't let her have. Though I guess those are probably completely different fields of science, Bulma is more of an engineer and Gero is an expert in bioengineering.

>sHit
>weaker than base Goku
W-WOW JOBREN IS SO STRONG BRUHS...

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I almost pissed myself at this scene.

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Begita-sama

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Reminder the ONLY shit dbz movies are:
Broly 2&3 and Tree of Might. Everything else was very enjoyable for the most part.

J-Jobrenbros...how do we comeback from this...

Post the Dyspo version.

>base Broly and Black arc Vegito are the only known mortals stronger than UI Beerus
Why is that bros?

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Since ive never gotten an answer to this before: what happened in age 0? Characters such as turtle are older than the current dragon ball year, so what event happened at age 0? Has tori ever saud anything?

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You probably whip yourself as you masturbate and cry “I’m sorry for being American! I’m sorry being white! I’m sorry for being male!”

>base Broly
I think Goku meant that LSS Broly was above Beerus, not base Broly.

>Black arc Vegito
Fusions are OP.

>only known mortals stronger than UI Beerus
Jiren probably is stronger, as well as UI Goku.

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It's never been stated.

I'm fine with them reusing Hit punching them, but no like this.

>no
not*

when their version of Jesus died for their sins.

Utterly based.

He's powerful enough to be allowed relevancy.

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MAXIMUM CHADness

>Took Vegeta jobbing on Earth to be stronger than this CHAD
Why is the "warrior race" so pathetic?

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Why tho. Its been 33 years and toriyama still hasnt bothered writing lore than doesnt happen to deal with the current story at hand?

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Vegeta was always on par with Cui, the zenkai he got after his battle on Earth just allowed him to rek Cui in 5 seconds instead of having an extended fight.

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SDBH World Mission's main antagonist Sealas, a legendary galactic patrolman who also was the very first member of the time patrol. Sadly whoever designed his final form fucked him up, he looks like a FF boss

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>college student
>part-timer
PART TIMER WHOM

Judging by the caveman face, I'm willing to be that Final Form Sealas was designed by Yamamuro.

It was one of few moments where I legitimately laughed

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I'd like to congratulate Hit and Sephiroth on the birth of their child.

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He is pretty strong

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>I think Goku meant that LSS Broly was above Beerus, not base Broly.
He has no way to measure Broly's full power post fight, the estimate is based on the fight on Earth or the Broly standing there next to him.

>Fusions are OP.
Yes

>Jiren probably is stronger, as well as UI Goku.
If they were they would be stated as such.
Go round in circles and use abc logic and still have nothing, that should tell you something.
Toriyama has no problem in making those statements.

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Could you defeat the Saiba King?

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Is he stronger than platinum saibamen?

All Toriyama cares about are gags, Toyotaro cares about powerlevel shit and Toei cares about SOL for children, there's literally no hope at all for lore in dragon ball.

>He has no way to measure Broly's full power post fight, the estimate is based on the fight on Earth or the Broly standing there next to him.
Goku was there for the fight on Earth, you don't think he sensed LSS Broly's power level?

>If they were they would be stated as such.
Jiren is stated to be tougher than GoDs, and UI Goku is on par with him.

Not him but they never stated Jiren was stronger than ""the GoDs"" in canon, only that he is stronger than one specific GoD (Belmod) and only in the raw power sense

SSB tier

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Top Tier amongst other Saibamen.

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Raditz BTFO

>just about
big lol

That's true. The point stands, though, that Jiren is tougher than Belmod, who's tougher than Beerus. Jiren > Beerus, and thus UI Goku > Beerus.

>Goku: Oh boy that jiren guy was stronger than you Lord Beerus
>Beerus: yeah he was wasn't he?

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exit cuckly

Broly is just a walking power level. He's got no depth, no personality, no interesting abilities, nothing.

He's just a sad little (tiny) man who exists only to be humilliated by Goku and Vegeta

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>Belmod, who's tougher than Beerus
Never stated

It varies by adaptation. Manga Belmod is probably weaker (has to use a trick to last in the GoD match), while anime Belmod is stated to be stronger.

i fucking love mods

>abc logic
none of that is canon much less the way you are painting it.

Holy projector!

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If UI Goku can smack Jiren around, it stands to reason that he could smack around anyone weaker than Jiren.

This and since CHADren the Grey is the strongest antagonist in the Canon franchise it only stands he could beat the cat

>Frieza is alive now
So when does Frieza have a son and recruit Vegeta again

After EoZ

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Jobrentards I...

>Manga Belmod is probably weaker
So you just confirmed he's right.
>Broly, Gogeta and Vegetto = probably stronger (overall) than Beerus
>Jiren = stronger (only raw power-wise) than a guy who isn't stronger than Beerus (as far we know)

Broly's just the strongest.

In the manga it's up in the air, but anime Jiren is definitely stronger than Beerus.

Yeah but nobody is talking about the anime, see

Enter Cell.

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If he isn't now, he will be. He went from sub-SSG to GoD-tier in, what, a couple hours? The rate at which he gets stronger is fucking crazy.

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Oh, my bad. I'd still guess that Jiren is probably on par with Beerus, even if not definitively stronger.

I'm actually more of a Brolyfag, but I like manga Jiren too. Anime Jiren can fuck right off.

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I think these terms can well define the range of Dragon super bal powers. And this is:

Initial Hakaishin (Toppo): Vegeta Blue evolution and 20x Kaioken Blue Goku

Middle Hakaishin (Beerus): All gods of destruction are here, Kefla SS2, Broly LSS (first transformation), zamasu gattai, gogeta (base or ss) and Aniraza

Hakaishin Superior (Jiren): Beerus UI, Goku UI, Jiren and Vegito Blue.

Early Angel: MUI goku, Jiren LB, Gogeta blue and Broly super saiyan full power.

Not everyone who is equal to equal, others have the advantage over the other but still consider as on the same scale of power.

>I'd still guess that Jiren is probably on par with Beerus, even if not definitively stronger
Me too but that user is right when saying Jiren has never been compared to Beerus

>I'm actually more of a Brolyfag, but I like manga Jiren too. Anime Jiren can fuck right off.
Based

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>evolution
>kaioken
>SS2 kekfla
>jobmasu
>base and SS Gogeta in the same tier
>Anilaza
>the difference between middle GoD tier and top GoD tier is like the difference between SS and SSGSS
>"MUI"
>"Jiren LB"
Please die

If you say so.

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Pretty much, yeah.

>damage control

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Gentlemen, how do we make Yamcha relevant again?

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If Kale did this people would sperg hard, ah well, Broly is pretty fucking based

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>Freeza holding onto Whis
something about that is really cute

CHADFORCE ASSEMBLE

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>Gokek who is much weaker than Beerus can smack around UI Beerus by using UI himself

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>This and since Chadren the Gay is the strongest antagonist in the Canon
Discarded

Yamcha hooks up with Vados.
Yamcha becomes the father of the first angel-human hybrid.

The U6 Saiyans make watching everything before Super irrelevant.

Reminder the last volume included a few new panels for chapter 42 and Jiren last words were "let's fight again someday, Son Goku"

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The new panels were a nice way to wrap up the tournament, definitely improved my opinion on the arcs conclusion

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Tori would rather keep him as Bulma's beta orbiter, so his best bet at this point is confessing to Vegeta he still loves her and ultimately sacrifices himself for her. At least he would get a proper ending to whatever messed up character arc he's in.

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As a resident Cellfag, yeah, that was a failed attempt at damage controll. I have to concede that it is 1-0/2-0 for Gohan and will stay that way for the foreseeable future.

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Got the rest?

>the difference between middle GoD tier and top GoD tier is like the difference between SS and SSGSS
I made the most perfect range of powers here, I was the wisest here.

Nice autism.

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early super was based

I mostly agree with you. I do like Toppo's design and Beerus/Whis, but the rest have been spindly and bland. Mostly any alien designs all look the same.

As long as you know your place

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Gomenasai.

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>no SSJ
CHADgeta is just holding back

I love her

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>added Gohan in

It's over. He's canon again

>CHADgeta is just holding back
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

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hi back anons, why is nobody shitting on tardku, do I have to do it all by myself?

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Yes user, your place

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Because they keep getting BTFO

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>Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Akira Toriyama, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Dragonball Z had a very medieval philosophy: that if the Emperor was a evil man, the galaxy wouldn't prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Toriyama can say that Frieza became emperor and reigned for fifty years, and he was cruel and wicked. But Toriyama doesn’t ask the question: What was Frieza’s tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of scarcity and famine? And what about all these saiyans? By the end of the prologue, planet Vegeta is gone but all of the monkeys aren’t gone – they’re scattered across space. Did Frieza pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby monkeys, in their little monkey cradles?

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My skin was cold.

I love her too.

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>fight didn't even conclude
CHADgeta undefeated

Ugly bug

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>CHADgeta undefeated
Sure mate.

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>tfw Bejita takes you for ice cream

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Hype, I hated the new design at first but it grew on me quite quickly. Still kind of miss his old outfit tho.

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>Zeno tier
Zeno

>Angel tier
Angels

>Goku tier
Goku

>Vegeta tier
Vegeta

>Jiren tier
jiren

>Broly tier
broly

>17 tier
17

>Gohan tier
gohan

Broly had literally never seen Vegeta in his life. He was stabbed in his crib by a mook. Why would Vegeta mean anything to him? Speedwatching idiot.

future zamasu never really did all that good against an ssb though? plus he was immortal so that probably helped

Sure. Here he added the Zenos being surprised by 17's wish

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My head canon is that Zamasu's natural god ki gave black's rose form a huge boost to match up to Vegito.

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Here the reactions of the universes being restored

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Here the universes ready to depart, the last one is that added Jiren last words

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Do Kais have god ki?

>be animator
>earn 9400 USD anually
>decide that enough is enough
>walk up to my boss and tell him i want to work part-time
>boss lets me work part-time
>suddenly earn 18700 USD anually
>???
>PROFIT

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Jiren isn't canon.
None of this garbage is canon. Fuck Dragon Ball Super. The show ended with the last episode of DBZ.

t.butthurt gohanfaggot

Thanks.

>DBS
Dragon Ball Spics?

He is basically just the fusion multiplier stacked on top of rose, who is also immortal plus zamasu's ss2 tier power. I am going to assume the fusion multiplier here has to be greater than 20x other wise he would just be goku ssbkkx20 tier but immortal which I think vegito blue would have smacked around harder if that were true. So the fusion multiplier has to be bigger than 20x

Uub is shit.

And isn't the fusion boost stronger the more compatibile the two are? Can't get much more compatible than yourself

They fucked up Broly. Just give fuck it up more and give us Golden Cooler as canon.

regular Sealas looks like a mix between Hit and that green amphibian Jedi Master

Final Form Sealas is Hit + Sephiroth

>Cooler
No. Watch Heroes.

I thought it was more like cooler.

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whats your guys fan theory on why ss4 looks nothing like the other forms? Its weird how its supposed to look primal yet doesn't have the big brows like ss3.

Your autism isn't necessary for a fan theory. Ssj4 isn't supposed to be called Ssj4, it's its own branch off, but gt was already canceled by that point and they just called it that because of general lacking of planning

Pads or tampons?

Manga Vegeta is so friendly, i wonder if that is the reason why Erren Van Duine doesn't like Vegeta?

isn't he a gohan fan?

>SS2 was Vegeta's full power back then
V-Vegetabros...

Yes.

>back then

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Reminder that Dyspo is best Trooper

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ASS FOR DAYS

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Cabba is a turbofaggot

Which one?

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>ugly saiyan dykes
Neither.

>Not liking musclegirls.
Fucking faggot.

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>toriyama
is only cashing checks at this points, barely but by name involved

>liking tomboys
You're the fag.

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it's kind of funny how cynical the story itself became and how cynical toriyama treats db, meta subversion

Honestly, everything in Super feels like a rehash of DBZ. Tournaments, Freeza returning, power-sucking Villains, etc. About the only original aspects are Whis and Zamasu.

>puts on lipstick when she goes Broly mode
Hmmm

>CG animator gets paid more than a 2D animator

Why is this legal?

the same could be said about z with freeza and vegeta as the only original aspects. Otherwise its just more red ribbon shit, more demons, etc.

at least characters were changing with the story so it felt fresh, now everything is stuck, toriyama literally trolling to the point that he won't allow goten and trunks to grow up

Because CG Animation is harder. It's simple when you have all of the models, effects, and environments pre-made for you, not quite so much when you're the one making all of them and THEN animating them. Furthermore, it doesn't state the nature of the Animators' work or how their workload is being divided. For all we know, they could be the equivalent of a room full of chimps slapping away at typewriters while the chief animator and episode director try to make sense of their shoddy work. We've seen Toei's work, that stuff doesn't fix itself.

>caring about the little jobbers

A more imperfect form, if at all. Popos style was autonomous, more like instinct driven.

And yeah, perfected super saiyan should be the same as god ki, but seing as how you leak out your ki in base Form too, it's not that much perfected as in 100% ki control

See this? This is peak performance.

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>that one band drooping halfway down his face
Holy FUCK, would that be annoying in real life.

What are you, gay ? Tomboys are for true men.

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Spoiler that lewd shit, user !

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21 was fine, since she was a rather well done homage to Frieza, Cell, and Buu.

It's the reason I preferred Good 21 and wished she was playable. Evil 21 was literally Mileena from Mortal Kombat in the aspect they just make her edgy and silly to avoid a well written character. So much wasted potential overall.

It gets worse

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>People legitimately defending Voredroid.
How low can you sink.