Senjougahara is the worst girl in Monogatari

> Emotional cheating
> Actual cheating with Hanakawa
> Jealous/bitchy/generally irrelevant
> Made Math homeless
> Crabs are annoying to eat

Prove me wrong.

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She is a bit shit but so is Koyomi (by his own admission even) so they do suit each other somewhat. Though she does deserve someone who isn't just her dad who's willing to prioritise her over everything else in my opinion, and Koyomi isn't really that guy I think.

Would personally be content with her and Kikey getting together while Koyomi hooks up with Kanbaru, who people downplay how shit she was (by her own admission too) initially and developed a legitimately charming relationship (even though tons of their character building dialogue gets cut out of the anime), that'll never happen though.

Don't forget non-virgin, and she reeks of Kaiki semen

Hanekawa is a nothing, she acts all pretemtious and has no guts. Crab isnt the best but at least shes fun

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>> Crabs are annoying to eat
Pussy

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>non-virign
>bad thing

This. Girls dont tend to like their first time, so if you do it well you can wow her and make her forget about the previous time(s). Only small dicked faggots care about muh purity

Have fun with your used goods gayboys

Why does Yea Forums love this trash so much?

>Crab is a worst
>not Kaiki is a best

user...

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>std is not bad

>Senjougahara is the worst girl in Monogatari
You must have absolute shit taste if you actually believe this

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Araragi actually cheats like its part of his routine.

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>implying thats bad

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She's not Snake tier bad but she's pretty close to the bottom.

Araragi and Kanbaru is a big yes from me.
Senjougahara and Kaiki is a big yikes.
He is not a pedophile user and he does not see Senjougahara that way. Her crush on him was one sided.

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>Would personally be content with her and Kikey getting together while Koyomi hooks up with Kanbaru
Shit man are you me? I've literally never found anyone who also thinks this.

>if she's had sex before she's got bugs
Stop chasing after bug-laden thots and get some taste

Senju is in her 20s by now in universe.

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>He is not a pedophile user
He had a crush on an older chick while being underage himself previously didn't he?

>Brainlets can't even understand why this is the exact answer Araragi was looking for

How I pity them.

tfw kaiki is bae af

And you have fun with your dick getting covered in blood and the girl asking you to stop early because it hurts too much.

That's irrelevant though? ? ?
What is your point?

She was a year or two older.
Also how does that make him a pedophile?

The rest of that conversation that's always conveniently cut out illustrates that even, I swear it started out as a bait image that people now take seriously.

imagine Kaiki narrating this to you
>So then the chick threw her drink at me and got my Aloha shirt all wet
> I told her its okay for children to make mistakes and sat there lookin hella fresh in my gucci shades

>He is not a pedophile user
He wouldn't exclusively hang around little kids all day every day if he wasn't. Think it was mentioned somewhere that he basically can only talk confidently to said little kids too.

Crab is Best Girl
Crab is Best Girl
Crab is Best Girl
Crab is Best Girl
Crab is Best Girl
Crab is Best Girl

Probably why he scams middle schoolers.

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Koyomi is apparently very similar to Tooe according to Gaen, must make things pretty awkward

GF tier list

S - Snail, Monkey, Post-shiro Cat
Always loyal, low maintenance and will back you up.

A - Bat, Crab, Pre-shiro Cat
Loyal but needs some maintenance.

B - Math, Bee, Bird
High maintenance and fickle.

F - Snake
Batshit crazy

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>Young Tooe tsukomi-bpke with young Kaiki
fund it

>Bee, Bird
Already have boyfriends

Post-shiro Cat is high maintenance in a different way, due to what she actually does for a living

Snake did get better eventually, instead of being batshit insane she's now just a more regular flavor of dumbass teenager.

>spend your entire life practicing running to never get beaten
>literally quick enough to run as fast as someone on a bike
>get outskilled by the Kaiki Stride

I feel bad for Kanbaru, she can literally fuck over physics with her speed by running on the roof but still can't beat one skinnyfat boi.

>Actual cheating with Hanakawa
That's... also emotional cheating OP.

>Arc is literally about how if you stick with someone you don't love you're an asshole
>Senjougahara literally communicates the moral of the story
>this is a problem to some people

>implying you cannot love multiple people

I agree but she can't cheat with another girl if they aren't gay.

>Arc is literally about how if you stick with someone you don't love you're an asshole
>except the arc is about loving multiple people and having to make the hard choice and choose.

That final scene in Hana was really sweet, Araragi and Kanbaru interact a lot but hardly ever have a proper heart-to-heart like that.

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?????

>> Emotional cheating
When? With who?

math best

crab shit

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I'd like to have seen crabs reaction if after she said that line araragi was immediately
>ah.. ok we're breaking up I'm gonna go date Hanekawa now bye-bye
>click

Your point has reminded me of something. Hanekawa literally offered him the chance to "Date her with intent to marry". At this point I wonder if he can do a trade-in and switch out Senjougahara for Hanekawa?

Your straight girlfriend touching her straight friends boobs isn't cheating on you.

Can Ougi be best girl

Nope. By definition Ougi is neither best nor girl. I'll create a balance her by giving you "Alright thing"

Monkey exists.

Monkey is best girl for the record

No but fucking her to completion is.

Araragi's relationship with Hanekawa is the most convoluted bullshit thing in the series, if I understand this correctly he basically wouldn't ever want to date her even if Gahara wasn't in the picture due to feeling that she deserves better but also feeling some sort of weird hatred for her on some level.

How would you feel if your significant other wasn't dating one of your best friends and instead dating you because they think he's too good for them?

Did they do that? I must have forgotten.

I'm going to give user the benefit of the doubt and assume was meant to correct because they misread the OP.

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Agreed. She's also boring as fuck. That being said Koyomi's faggot ass deserves her.

but did they fug?

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I hope the current Monster Season stuff gets adapted. Koyomi really gets his shit together by the time he starts college.

Honestly we can't be sure. Kaiki narrates the story.
A lot of stuff can be taken as half-tellings, especially the extent of their interactions.

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Every single story in this series has unreliable narration, it's a consistent theme, I dunno why it's only with Hitagi End that has people completely reinterpret things to fit whatever they want it to mean all the time

There's nothing to disprove.

>Bee is fickle
Not if your name is Koyomi. She's also not super high maintenance. Bird is definitely fickle though. As for Math, I kind of think she isn't given she's taken obsessively excellent care of her hate-boner for one guy all this time.

The story is sketchy and the narrator is a pathological liar??????????????????

>Not if your name is Koyomi
She has a boyfriend.

Based

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He's not even the only pathological liar narrator we've had though

i LOVE math

Who doesn't?

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sure are a lot of cuck fetishists in here.

Did you skip all of Karen Bee or something?

>if someone tells you they are a liar should you believe them?

What a conundrum.

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>he self-inserts as Araragi
lol

All the best girls I dated were virgins. These queers don't know anything.

I hope aniplex does too so we can see her solo arc.

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I self insert as monkey so his post is still accurate for me

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Meaning? If you're talking about her being needy while under hypnosis I'll just say that I generally give a pass when someone's sick. Not only do you generally need more help but you're not exactly in you're right mind when running a fever.

She is the best girl ever created by a japanese man. There is no girl who even close to her.

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Meaning she just goes and does whatever she feels like in the pursuit of what she thinks is justice.

That's neither fickle nor high maintenance - not necessarily at least - so that's irrelevant.

> Emotional cheating
Everything she said and did in Koi was to manipulate Kaiki. To play with his ego. She gave him exactly what he always wanted.

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I mean that makes her even worse as a human being than if she'd cheated, but whatever floats your boat.

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Kaiki and Seishirou didn't deserve anything that Araragi did to them..

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Teaming up with a girl like that can make for a powerful combination, if her craziness is manageable and not too destructive.

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>Seishirou
>killed for having a penis.

A machiavellian sociopath goudere is not something that sounds fun when she's approaching 50 and you still like like a 18 yr old.

Anime onlys need to learn to read
/thread

for me, its Doll

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She did it to save Araragi and his useless loli slave.
She made Kaiki feel like having an affair with his desirable woman.

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>manipulating a man's pure love
there's a whole layer of hell for that.

How long was Nadeko's timeline? wasn't Araragi supposed to have the final confrontation in spring, I seem to recall a flash sideways showing that with the whole harem gathered?
Wouldn't Oshino have already been found by Hanekawa by then? Was Kaiki even necessary?

>blaming Araragi for anything that happened to Seishiro
>not Shinobu
what?

Araragi legit mindbroke his waifu because he's a pedophile.

>dumb roastie who had several hundred years to get over her issues gets mindbroken by a horny teenager within a couple months
Nice.

Araragi's netori game skrong af

>being a slut
>not a bad thing

lol ok slut

You're forgetting she's also Reddigahara. It's no wonder why those cucks love her so much

>implying Kaiki has any pure love for anyone still alive

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>implying that it was impure love
>implying that crab let him inside

Poor Kaiki. Araragi cucked him twice with Crab and Tooe.

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Would mirror Kaiki only ever tell the truth?

This is just fanart right? Because goddamn

Looks like Utamonogatari cover.

Araragi should have done the deed with Kanbaru's mom. No one would've found out anyway.

Araragi should dick Math. It's only a matter of time before they kill each other anyway.

I don't remember this. When did it happen?

It's one of the utamonogatari volume 2 covers.

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Shinobu Mail.

So whose the pathetic-kun with a netorase fetish that married her anyways?

And a larger version of best girl's cover.

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Damn, I didn't know there were new ones at all
>that melting ahoge for Math
Muh fucking dick.

I think she was just teasing Araragi. She is happy with her husband on Heaven according to Suruga Bonehead.

somebody really needs to call the Gaen family lineages bluffs already

based

These Gaen's genes, god damn.

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You're right.
I'm pretty sure Tooe had to fuck Zeus to give birth to someone as perfect as Suruga.

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refrain from shit talking my waifu thanks, she didnt fuck marysuekawa, she only manipulated kaiki to save koyomis life, math deserved to be homeless cause shes a cunt, jealous girls tend to be more faithful and the back and forth from her bitchiness is endearing, and lastly crab meat is good.

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>she didnt fuck marysuekawa
post proof
>she only manipulated kaiki to save koyomis life,
You ever watch those jav dramas where the wife fucks her useless wagecuck's boss so that they don't lose their house? I love those.

Nadeko is the best girl in the series. If you dislike her, you were pleb filtered.

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Nadeko is barely a character.

>cheating
I never finished the mono series. There's actual ntr by crab girl?

>t. only watched Bake

yeah she gets gangbanged by kaiki's hired thugs

>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I suddenly have a urge to binge watch the series.

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Just yuri fanservice and Nisio trolling by writing an entire book called love story where Senjougahara meets in secret with her first love.

Snake is a trash person and snakefags are the absolute worst.

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>implying best girl Kaiki has std's

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>>t. only watched Bake
Nadeko was more of a character in Bake than she was in anything else lol

>I can only like characters who are upstanding citizens!

You are genuinely the first person I've seen to hold this opinion.

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>worse than snake
nigger please

does she get plowed or is it just two of them meeting up?

>You are genuinely the first person I've seen to hold this opinion.
Well Otorimonogatari reveals she's just a delusional romanticist with the most infantile responses imaginable. Once you figure that out she's pretty 1 dimensional.

Were you asleep during Hitagi End? She's the most multi-layered character in the series (other than possibly Cat) in terms of her motivations and (yes, obviously mentally ill) thought process.

I like Nadeko as a character user.
But as a girl she is trash.

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Officially they're just meeting and texting/calling in secret, but the standing assumption is that parts of the story are omitted by the narrator.
NisiO would never actually write penetration or cheating beccause he doesn't want to get pipe-bombed by otaku

how dull. I was hoping she was going to get gangbanged and do some cucking.

Can you add?
you are literally admitting she has multiple dimensions to her personality

Multi layered?
She acts like a teenage girl if they had infinite powers.

Hi,
I just came here to say you're right.
See ya.

>cutest
>best voice
>best OPs
Nah.

>a teenage girl character is written like a teenage girl
>this is supposed to be a bad thing

She's not multi layered.
She has two layers.
She pretend to be a good girl but is actually a selfish and egotistical psychopath.

Her motivations are being too lazy to do anything and figuring out ways to avoid repercussions for not doing those things.
She is a spoiled brat who is too stupid to realize that the person she's hurting most is herself or too lazy to stop and get her life under control.

I can see why a lot of people can relate to her but even the fucking autistic losers here should realize that's nothing about her is admirable and she is just a giant cautionary tale.

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>acts cute meek and subservient
>is really just a delusional romanticist
>really just wants to be lazy and not be bothered
there are at least 3 aspects to her personality.
I dont even like snake but you'd have to be pretty stupid to miss this.

Regardless of how good or bad the girls are, which one has the dumbest fanbase? I vote Batfags.

She's not a romanticists.
She's just too lazy to have an actual relationship and makes up a fake one in her head because then she doesn't have to do any work.

All her actions can be summed up with her being either lazy or stupid or both.

She's not one dimensional like the other user said but she's not the most multi-layered character either.
Cat, Monkey, Araragi and even Crab also have as much or more going on and they aren't pieces of shit on top of it either.

>Emotional cheating
You are literally a faggot.

>only person to not fall for kaiki's jew tricks
>stupid

Who gives a fuck about what the girls like

>trusts literally nobody
>doesn't trust kaiki either

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Did I say that?

>She's not a romanticists.
She literally writes shoujo manga. The only other alternative is her being a ruthless hack.

Have you read her manga user?
It's as garbage as Kaiki said it was.

>Kaiki
What do?

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>> Crabs are annoying to eat
I can't. They really are annoying to eat; especially the damn claws.

Which is what makes her a romanticist.

If it takes courage to tell a lie, is he the most courageous man on the planet?

I don't know but his life depresses me. He does kind of good things for people and then no one acknowledges it. He's going to die alone

There is no romanticism in the manga.
Its just a collection of tropes with some so-bad-it's-good writing.

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NisiO will pair off the mortal harem when he's taken the series far enough.
Kaiki gets Kanbaru, Oshino gets Hanekawa.

> collection of tropes
thats what romanticism is

user I think you hit your head.
You're saying words but they don't come together in a way that makes sense.

Have you suffered a stroke?

You're wrong. Being playful isn't emotional cheating. kaiki is cool. So is cheating with cat, which is rather sharing, which is caring, as we all know. Maths? Literally who. Crabs makes funny noises while eating her. Faggot.

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based

youtube.com/watch?v=ojAQhZWfhO4

What did they mean by this?

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>Literally who
Araragi's sweetheart.

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He almost walked her home.

>snake
>bad
Kill yourself

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>there are actually people who like math
Literal worst girl

Chadpilled post

Kaiki was a mistake

God I wish that was me on the left.

Genuinely the least autistic character in the series though.

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Where's the best place to stream from these days? I just convinced a buddy to start watching Bake and now he's bitching because he can't watch the whole series on Crunchyroll

Just gotta love his view/comment on shekkels. Just to name one thing.

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self-cucked for the greater good

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Just dropping by to say this is the best series.

>streaming
>paying for streaming

Also, although streaming if you absolutely have to (restricted WiFi, etc) isn't the worst thing in the world, you might want to check Yea Forums's rules again.

See, that's what I told him. He's already a dubfag and so convincing him Monogatari is worth it was already quite the chore

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1 2 or 3?

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How long will he live?

5ever

Why is Oshino single?

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nyaa.si
Get a VPN if you're paranoid about torrenting

He couldn't even be hassled to spend more than a few months in the same town as his best friend, how do you except him to hold on a relationship has strong as lovers?

Except she didn't fall for his tricks during the actual series because she had already fallen for them when she was younger.

>Kaiki
>skinnyfat
The man clearly watches his diet and fitness and is a master of cardio. You don't diss that level of artistic body sculpting.

You have to be a special type of cuck to keep dating a woman who straight up tells you that as soon as someone she likes better shows up she will go for his D.

At least she's honest. It'd be terrible being in a relationship held together by obligation.

That's how literally every relationship works. It's not like Araragi can complain when he's the one who has been cheating on her since the fucking start.

Except that shinobu didn't go with Seishirou, although she should've.

>That's how literally every relationship works. It's not like Araragi can complain when he's the one who has been cheating on her since the fucking start.
I don't think RRRG has actually fucked another girl. ...has he?

Probably Karen.

forgot SS tier

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I don't like old bay

I regret not saving that Ononoki webm of her smug posed looks for the other day.

Hanekawa only ever offers because she knows Araragi says no.

And she gets off on Araragi rejecting her even though she wants him because his rejecting her is emotional validation for her, where he doesn't accept because he thinks she can do better. Then there's the part where he hates that she's an unfeeling psychopath. He knows better than to stick his dick into crazy. That's why he only ever touches, never dicks.

Imagine caring about the nuances within the relationships in the series anymore. This is a prime example of merch sales writing at this point, it's only a competition of whether it's fun or not. There's no room for discussion regarding which girl fits Koyomi the best because none of said development matters in future plots. Your girl is the best girl in her season but she's nothing but a stupid plot device devoid of any experience in any medium outside of her original story.

Never read this shit for the characters, just the overall entertainment.

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Add another to S tier.

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>Probably Karen.

When? Birb cockblocked during the toothbrush scene.

His relationship had only gotten deeper and more obsessive by Hanamonogatari where he's talking about changing the laws so he can wed her, I can only imagine things escalated.

Honestly I'm kinda sick of Araragi and want to read about the specialists in college now
Bring back club anime.

I fucking hate explaining what old bay is to customers

>Hanekawa only ever offers because she knows Araragi says no.
I'm sure Hanekawa is smart enough to realize that she had no chance winning against Shinobu. Hitagi knows it too. It might be OK for Hitagi even if she is just a poster lover but not Hanekawa. The confession was a means for her to break free from the misery of not being able to exclusively have Araragi and move on. The rejection was really a blessing in disguise for her. On the other hand, Hitagi can remain a cuckqueen for as long as she wants. She will soon become his oneesan, his okasan and then finally his obaasan.
>He knows better than to stick his dick into crazy. That's why he only ever touches, never dicks.
And yet he choose to be with the craziest of them all. It did not bother him that she is the type of person who would kill everybody if he ends up dying.

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Those that have read the novels, does she actually switches to another guy in any of the times they've broken up?

>has a billion chances to separate from shinobu without hurting either of them
>always reforms the pact
Araragi is literally the worst boyfriend though
I cant even imagine the emotional toll it would be for a woman to start being identified as her husband's mother, and then grandmother...

They've never broken up.

They've broken up literally 3 times.

as opposed to figuratively 3 times?

>fingertips almost touch but don't
what did they mean by this?

It's selfish, but if you were him, would you break it off? Absolutely not, you'd have to be stupid.

user, stop shitposting. He's skinnyfat. He just doesn't eat. It's the age-old adage "A skinny guy with a six pack is like a fat chick with tits".

I dump her after our kids leave for college. Time to find fresher blood.

That is not what skinnyfat means.

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>no real definition
>no bulk
I'll give you one thing, he'd make a great female bodybuilder with that build.

Yeah he don't have much mass but he's got uber low bodyfat.
no ponch or breasts.

I meant leaving Shinobu, not Hitagi

Kaiki's build is not overly muscular but definitely not just skinny. His body makes it look like he does a lot of cardio, which makes sense given what we see in Hana.

If he ate more, he would but we know that keeps skipping meals or eating poorly.
Of the things we've seen him consume on-screen it's been alcohol, coffee, Mister Donuts and a small part of a meat meal while espousing that Kanbaru herself is looking a bit lean and so she should eat more.
I'm not saying Kaiki is a hypocrite but the other exorcists aside from Tadatsuru who can't work out and Gaen who is a genetic failure are all ripped.

I mean if I loved my girlfriend and wasn't insecure enough to tether Shinobu to me, but Araragi knows that without the link Shinobu would probably lose interest with him relatively soon.

Kaiki doesn't do CQC like the others and probably doesn't want to spend money on food.
But I mean, we've never seen Oshino eat on screen but that doesn't mean he doesn't consume food.

But user, Kaiki only spends his money on frivolity. He talks about it specifically that he wastes his money on nice hotels, food and nice alcohols because he dislikes static objects and prefers not to be held down.
Oshino by deduction has to eat well because he's jacked. You don't keep that much muscle on a small japanese frame without unless you eat right.

They don't taste THAT fucking good and after working with them for long enough, I understand that most people that like them are fucking retarded for buying them unless you don't buy jumbo crabs, which are sold to the restaurants for the visual benefit. Buy 2's or 3', that's what the watermen eat because they know better (it's the ONLY thing they fucking know)

Senjougahara is a bitch, but I WOULD eat that crab, but only if there aren't other crabs in the vicinity if you catch my drift

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>Eat crab's crab
>Get crabs

>ITS CRABS ALL THE WAY DOWN

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saucy

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You know what sauce goes good on?

>Same Girl in tons of different outfits
I love shit like this. Got anymore and also some that aren't crab?

>He just doesn't eat.
You're talking about the same guy who gave a speech about the joy of eating copious amounts of meat.

Guy appreciates protein.

You know what sauce goes good on?
uh..... crabs?

You know that right after that, Karen brushes Araragi's teeth, right?

>He talks about it specifically that he wastes his money on nice hotels, food and nice alcohols because he dislikes static objects and prefers not to be held down.
I have a feeling that Hitagi will end up giving Kaiki money all the time so he would not resort to con-ning gullible middle school children.

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> Crabs makes funny noises while eating her.
Kek

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those are cool pants

Yes, very cool indeed.

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Araragi looked like he was going through some sort of weird isekai protagonist phase in college. Shaft's general artstyle already looks weird as is and outside of a few shots he looks really bizarre in Hana.

Wanna see what he looks like as a cop, probably a bit more straight cut by that point.

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I like OG's clothing design in this, what Kanbaru was wearing last chapter was top cute

His monogatari girls are modern, stylish and very sexy.