Is there ANYONE who can defeat a serious Gilgamesh?
Is there ANYONE who can defeat a serious Gilgamesh?
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For what purpose? He supposed to defend mankind from gods and monsters.
Ozymandias called, and said Gil was a little bitch
Nobody can, he is the best.
Can Ozymandias fight against Gods?
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Nope. His reality marble has no effect on people with Divinity. Gilgamesh is literally his worst nightmare.
my dick. no one can win against the cock.
Could Solomon/Goetia beat Gil ?
The Beasts.
ORT
Atari Dumbledore
he can summon an army oh sphinxes to deal with him. where does it say he has trouble with divinity? not recalling that
The one who always defeats Gilgamesh: Gilgamesh
Sefar, Velber, Amaterasu - Tamamo with 9 tails, Solomon, Enkidu (especially if his master is the Earth), Archetype Earth,...?
Vegeta in base form.
Shiki can. After all s/he can kill Servants.
>Is there ANYONE who can defeat a serious Gilgamesh?
His hubris
Two skeletons called, they said you're a little bitch.
I know a guy that only needs a single punch.
Gil hard counters Ozy since his curses won't work and Ea can destroy his RM.
OP here, I mean within Type-Moon's universe. So stop spamming your fanfic crossovers.
Should have specified from the start, now isekaiCHADS will continue to dominate you all thread.
BTW tanya would (sexually) rape Jobbergamesh as well as any other isekai MC. Let's not even get into CULTIVATION CHAD mcs
Tanya would get along with Gil over their mutual hatred of gods.
Can Gilgamesh even touch JD?
Well yeah, there would still be non-consensual sex, though.
I don't fully understand why Cu wouldn't be considered a hard counter. Protection from arrows and being faster seems like it would cover most of his bases
>flat short blonde girl
There is no world in which Gil doesn’t consent to this
>Deepwater Jew
my sides
I knew there was a good reason we sunk Atlantis.
Non-zerker Herc
Grand Servants and Beasts obviously
Aristoteles and True Demons obviously
BB and Kiara Sessyoin (Heaven's Hole) unless empowered with the Zero Model
Level 999 Meltryllis
Evenly matched against Passionlip, normal Meltryllis, Kingprotea, and Karna, meaning fights that can go either way depending
Ozymandias called to ask Gil if he wants to hang out and BWAHAHAHAHAHA, actually
I can do it.
Protection from Arrows fails against explosive weapons and high rank noble phantasms, both of which Gilgamesh has.
Cu also has a respectable amount of Divinity over average strength. He gets caught by Enkidu and he's instagibbed. So he has to manage a flawless defense, while Gate of Babylon rains around him.
Beyond that, his ultimate attack, Gae Bolg, is a curse of fate reversal, and Gilgamesh wears anti-curse armor.
Shiki
Ainz gets fucked due to Magic Resistance.
Gilgamesh's Magic Resistance is trash unless he brings out specific antimagic noble phantasms to bolster himself.
Enkidu
Probably.
Karna is there too
So are these 3 the strongest?
Please, they can't even beat Aqua.
The strongest jobbers, indeed.
Not even close. First off Karna is overrated
There are probably over a dozen servants stronger than him and Ozy.
>jobs to paperwork
good job gil
>Karna
>Strong
LOL
Based
>Karna
>not strong
Kek.
He's only ever won a single fight in the plethora of works he's starred in.
>Gets one-shotted by a stab from Cu Alter (without grail)
He's trash.
Gilgamesh would stomp Karna. Alter Egos would stomp Gilgamesh in conditions that favor them.
Towelman.
Depends, can Shiki kill servants?
>Was created by the grail by Cu's biggest fangirl
That's like saying Every Servant is weak because they lost to Death Battle's made up version of Superman
Towelman got mad buffs and he still couldn't beat Gilgamesh. Ishtar had to bail him out.
>(without grail)
You can read, right? This Cu is weaker than the one in America and he beat Karna even while the latter had help from Medb. Hell, he put more effort into beating Medb than Karna. Karna is an even bigger jobber than Gilgamesh. It's unparalleled.
>gets defeated by her other side
Lol
gil canonically died to paperwork, that's the only lol here
He needs to give up his invulnerability to use his strongest attack.
Gilgamesh is not even the strongest in his own epic:
Beasts, grands, Types, Arcueid, Enkidu, Humbaba, Gugalanna, True Demons, Buddha etc.
We're talking several dozen at least in Fate. Gilgamesh is around top major divine spirit in Nasu. While still pretty powerful is a tier and a half below the big boys.
Play CCC you colossal faggot. It's a good fight both ways, a fight where either can win.
okay, gimme a translation patch
>CCC
>The game where Gilgamesh was nerfed to shit.
>Precisely because the moon cell couldn't control him and he was too powerful for the war
>The same war Karna participated in
Yeah, no. It's ""said"" that Karna is equal to Gilgamesh, but he has never once shown the capacity. His powers have massive weaknesses in energy constraints and the drawback of VS. Additionally, nothing in his arsenal is as bullshit as GoB and Ea. Both on paper and feats, Karna doesn't stack up. He's a wanked jobber.
The cock.
C isn't even fully fan translated, god forbid professionally translated, what do you mean play? There's only a few fan translated routes anyway, there's no "game" to play
Or are you just talking out your ass and also never played CCC?
>EOPs
back to /fgoalter/ with you
He shows the capacity in that he has extraordinary offense and defense and well rounded in all categories.
The "drawback" of Vasavi Shakti is that you probably annihilate one enemy without fail.
Gil isn't nerfed in CCC at all, he's buffed for not being stuffed in a class container.
No he doesn't. Brahmastra is only as strong as an A+ NP like Balmung. VS is stronger but it costs him his armor. How the fuck does this compare to entire horseshit that is Gilgamesh having 80% of the noble phantasms in history, anti-X weaponry and a fucking holy grail?
>The "drawback" of Vasavi Shakti is that you probably annihilate one enemy without fail.
He doesn't even know who Karna is and why VS is a double-edged sword.
>Gil isn't nerfed in CCC at all,
>CONFIRMED FOR NOT PLAYING THE GAME.
Based tertiarybro. Gilgamesh slept in the far side of the moon and his soul was corroded to level 0. He's a fucking shitter to start with. This is one of the very first things you learn in CCC. How embarrassing.
His golden armor gives him the same level of magic resistance as Saber, who could ignore Caster's spells.
>The "drawback" of Vasavi Shakti is that you probably annihilate one enemy without fail.
Except for when you can't. Protip, VS, throughout all it's uses, has never given Karna a victory. Not one single time. In cases like Cu, it gets outright tanked.
Kill yourself
I'm just happy that there's more Indian servants in Fate now, I like Karna but I swear people want him way too much.
>hasn't played CCC
>gets called out on it
>spergs
Absolute state of newfags
merlin
maybe karma
king hassan
You called?
Can anyone defeat a serious APEX fighting for the planet?
>A+ NP like Balmung.
Reminder that Sieg's Balmung is much weaker than Siegfried's so even then Karna looks bad in the comparison.
>beats every TMverse character
Heh, nothin personal
>Brahmastra is only as strong as an A+ NP like Balmung
And that's not bad at all.
>VS is stronger but it costs him his armor.
And pretty much fucks up an enemy guaranteed.
Yeah, it's bad for a holy grail war, but it's great for duels.
>Gilgamesh slept in the far side of the moon and his soul was corroded to level 0
Which has no effect on his actual story power at all, it's a gameplay contrivance for the RPG factor. You can powerlevel all you want.
Do you realize that Gil's route is translated and that people can easily check that you don't know what you are talking about?
Scathach could due to her specializing in anti divinity and having gate of Skye to help counter Enuma. Nobu might be able to due to also being specialized in anti divine and anti rider as well as her legend alteration
>And that's not bad at all.
By itself? No, but it is when you're comparing him to Gilgamesh
>And pretty much fucks up an enemy guaranteed.
LOL. Shall I point you to the many instances when VS has failed?
>Which has no effect on his actual story power at all, it's a gameplay contrivance for the RPG factor. You can powerlevel all you want.
Stop embarrassing yourself. It's not a gameplay nerf. It's mentioned in-story and relevant to the story that Gilgamesh is drastically weakened. Hell, they mention it again when Karna appears that Gilgamesh is weakened. You struggle against fucking Liz because your servant is underpowered. How the fuck can you tell me to play CCC when you clearly have never even read the fan transnationals?
>anti divinity
So does Gilgamesh. Specializing in something doesn't mean you'll beat someone far above you.
>gate of Skye
Does not counter Ea in any capacity. It draws the enemy in to the land of shadows, that's it. It wouldn't stop Scathach from getting killed. It definitely didn't stop Cu Alter from shanking her and eradicating 90% of her organs.
Solomon can rape him if he wants.
HEAVENSU
its been awhile since I posted this.
I can.
>And pretty much fucks up an enemy guaranteed.
>Yeah, it's bad for a holy grail war, but it's great for duels.
Absolutely not. You missed the point completely.. VS is a one-off spear that shreds his armor. That means it's not like Excalibur or Ea where the user can use it anytime they want. Karna will be forced to fight cautiously due to his limited options. And if he DOES use VS and misses/fails to score a kill. He's now spearless and armorless. Doesn't sound like a good time, if you ask me.
Gate of Skye opens infront of Ea and eats the blast. Gate is destroyed but Ea is countered
Gilgamesh can use Enuma Elish several times.
The opening created by blocking it and getting behind it (how Artoria defeated him in the Fate route) is only possible by countering and then evading it. All your scenario does is counter it once, it doesn't help approaching Gilgamesh during the moment the rotation keeps him anchored where he is.
Why do these two faggots look so hot together? No homo.
That's not how gate of Skye works, it's not like Avalon. Gil would just ignore the gate like Cu did.
Gate of Skye opens behind Scathach. That's what fucked her over against Cu.
> and eats the blast.
How do you know it wouldn't get blown away and unable to stop EE at all?
Even when Gilgamesh was still alive, he needed help from Enkidu or he would have been defeated
Not true. Gil isn't immune to Irish magic or Irish curses.
In F/HA, some timelines had Avenger and Bazett defeating Gilgamesh.
Problem was Avenger had to keep resetting the timeline to find a way for Bazett to stay alive until the very end.
Avenger and Bazett defeated everybody, including Gilgamesh, due to Bazett's NP combined with Avenger's NP.
>In F/HA, some timelines had Avenger and Bazett defeating Gilgamesh.
No they don't. Gilgamesh isn't part of the war and is going around as Ko-Gil. They only defeat the 7 proper servants.
>Avenger and Bazett defeated everybody
They never defeat Heracles. No matter how many times they tried.
First one cunt acts like they played CCC, now this one acts like he played F/HA. Will it ever stop?
Nope
Bet you don't remember Heracles beating Gilgamesh and saving Illya in one of the routes. ;_;
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of the evening bell.
Fun fact: The reason why Gil is summoned under Archer class is because he DOES have a bow but he never uses it because it's the one from Fate/Prototype- and it's actual intended use is to FIRE EA.
The swords as arrows thing? Every inch of gate of babylon is 'minor attack' by his standards.
YES- HE USES THE BOW WHICH CALLS DOWN AN ORBITAL LASER ARROW STRIKE WHEN USED TO FIRE THE SPIRALING GALAXY CRUSHING WEAPON THAT SPLIT THE HEAVENS AND EARTH WHILST IT IS REVVED UP TO DO SO- BASICALLY THINK EMIYA'S CALDABOLG BUT AMP IT UP TO DO DAMAGE ABOUT AS HUGE AS THE SCALE AND SIZE OF VEGETA'S FINAL FLASH FROM DRAGONBALL Z.
The reason why he never uses it is because It's not to be used until ORT wakes up.
Nice source
I think this only applies to Proto Gil.
I don't think regular Gil has the bow, or at least he hates using it.
Bruh, he was trolling.
He almost uses his bow to wipe off Fuyuki in prototype bro. Besides the ORT part, which is probably memeing or some new content.
Is wiping a city really a big deal? Servants like Quetzalcoatl can level Fuyuki even better than Ea would.
He does have it- it's show used in a lesser state in one of the extra's. The whole idea behind is that it follows the principal of a good archer only ever needing one shot/arrow- with EA being the perfect 'arrow' in question- but again- it's something among his treasures that he rarely uses because it's not something he wishes to waste time, effort- or face to show- if using EA is his way of acknowledging lesser opponents- then him functioning as his class intends is his way of actually acknowledging a credible threat that meets the standards of his legend and himself as a divine being and king- something like Tiamat. This is one of the reasons why in HGW's he's never summoned 100% because he's too powerful- and in many respects is considered to be the Trump card of humanity by the powers that be.
You know how in Prism Illya the Holy grail war was causing the world to get closer to the material featured in Notes? Yeah- that Bow would've put the planet in a similar state if it was allowed to hit.
You're talking out of your ass. Gilgamesh does not have Enki not even in CCC.
It really isn't.
Two Serious Gilgamesh.
Gee, Gil...
Actually he uses it in the base sword form.
Yes
Arc.
All of the Beasts.
All of the Grands.
An autistic ginger.
His sealing effect doesn't work on divinity and divine constructs.
Uh no. It doesn't work on things related to gods. It also doesn't work on passive NPs that do not require true name release like IA so GoB will work fine.
It sealed Excalibur, how wouldn't it work on divine constructs?
Saitama
>Ctrl f you know who
>he isn't in the thread
Surprising.
An interesting question, but I think you meant to ask if ANYONE can defeat Uzumaki Naruto?
I’m not talking 12 year old Uzumaki Naruto, Hell I’m not talking Sennin mode Uzumaki Naruto, I’m talking Uzumaki Naruto after using the tajuu kage bunshin no jutsu, yin-yang max tail release Kyubbi while activated in Rikudo Sennin mode with a futon choodama rasenshuriken. Keep in mind he can combine his futon choodama rasenshuriken with Uchiha Sasuke's enton kagutsuchi to create shakuton korin shippu shikkoku no ya zeroshiki, But first Uchiha Sasuke must activate his kekkei genkai Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan in order to possess Amaterasu so he use the enton release.
While it does seal divine constructs, Gilgamesh could just unseal his A+ divinity and shrug it off wholesale himself.
Remember this is the hypothetical "serious (OoC) Gilgamesh" so he won't succumb to pride and vanity.
based
I'd doubt Ea would be able to go through her shield though. Mash would kill Gilgamesh with shield bashes alone
He destroys the world around her and she drops in just like Iskandar and Waver would have.
Post-Camelot Mashu would have gotten dropkicked by Kingu alone if Gilgamesh didn't come to save them.
Gil/Saber is great but the only dj that get translated are autism-kun and self-inserts.
Gil can't do shit against Solomon chad. Davi's NP can instantly kill him if it connects. Hassan makes Gil his bitch and Nightingale of all people counter this cuck so hard it's not even funny. Gil is yestaerday's news and has been defeated by a gazillion servants and even paperwork. He is a joke.
>Davi's NP can instantly kill him if it connects
Do you think he throws the ark of the covenant at people or something because you can't possibly mean Hamesh Avanim.
The rest is accurate but David is a ridiculous proposition.
Gil was never serious though.
the flash could!
nuh UH
>Solomon chad
Solomon is featless. All the things he demonstrated are Goetia with millenias worth of enhancements.
>David
Fucking meme
>Nightngale
Fucking meme. She got one-shotted by a Brahmastra even with Mashu's protection
>Hassan
Might be the only case where you're correct. And even that isn't factoring whether Gilgamesh uses his grail of if he has a counter.
Gilgamesh vs Ozymandias, both going at 100%, would be the best fight in the franchise, and I dare you to prove me wrong.
>The rest is accurate but David is a ridiculous proposition.
I mean, I know it would require a convulated as fuck plan, but Gil isn't the smartest guy there is and the image of Davi throwing the Arc and hoping it would work amuzes me even if he can't do that.
>Solomon is featless
At the very least we're pretty certain he defeated Artoria. We know he defeated 6 servants with ease.
He beat the 2004 Holy Grail War and Artoria Alter is aware of who and why, so it's very heavily implied she was the Saber in that war.
Well fuck, you're right with Nightingale. If she unleashes her Noble Phantasm before him, Gil becomes a joke.
>He beat the 2004 Holy Grail War and Artoria Alter is aware of who and why
Was she? All I remember was her recognizing Mashu's shield.
Nah. Grail wars mean nothing or even "Astolfo" defeated Karna, Achilles etc. There are so many variables to factor, such as killing masters, making alliances etc that tell us little about their combat abilities. Solomon is a grand so that automatically makes him top-tier, but the problem is he's also a caster, who are mostly very indirect. Merlin for example can nullify Tiamat's mud, which is insane. But he's not fuck off powerful as far as combat is required. You need feats for these guys and Solomon's materials tell us next to nothing either.
Gilgamesh will act careless like always and get kill by Shiki MEODP.
It wouldn't be. Ozy's fighting style is boring. He just fires lasers or allows his divine sphynx's to do the fighting while he sits back enjoying immortality. It's not fun at all.
Euphorically tips fedora.
We do know that Solomon as Grand Caster can whip regular servants without any effort. Goetia in his body was so strong that in London he acting on his own was stronger than multiple demon pillars, themselves requiring several servants to fight.
Grand Berserker Beowulf
>Beowulf
>Grand Berserker
Nice joke
Not him but Goetia fights using multiple demon pillars.
What I'm referring to is the part after the boss battle, where he acts on his own and wipes out most of your servants at once.
Ea gg
We don't even know if the Servants of the Holy Grail War Solomon won are the same Servants as their equivalent in the 2004 FSN war, and even if it was, that was a very low level skirmish compared to the others. Assuming he replaced Medea, only Berserker and Saber were the true threats, and Marisbury seems the kind of person that would go after Illya instead of bothering with Heracles.
Having said that, if Gilgamesh had appeared in that instance of the war, we wouldn't even be having this discussion to begin with.
I want to see a TsukixFate collab just to see him go serious only to fucked and humbled
Nobody cares about tsuki shit, mate. It's about time you people realize that Type-Moon is about servants, okay? No one cares about the rest of the Nasuverse.
seething gachafag your cucked hero would get fucked by any average character in tsukhihime
Maybe, if Nasu remembered what turkeyhime is, but we both know he doesn't.
He's right you know.
Just because he's right doesn't mean he's correct
A Kardashev III civilization, AKA peak IRL humanity.
Yeah
Arcueid
Beowulf
Zelretch
Stupid question,"serious" Gilgamesh is a meme opponent,in the important moment he will simply job because of his pride,that's his flaw,the important part of his character,you can't separate it from his combat abilities.He may defeat some top-dog in other universes and be cool but ultimately he will still lose,even more likely to weaker opponent.Too bad but it's the truth.
maybe a true ancestor or prime zelretch
Arguably, that's Flanderization on the part of the series, considering even in Fate's version Gilgamesh not only defeated lots of extremely powerful shit, he also ends his own legend by overcoming his own pride.
Gold Experience requiem
never ever
Gilgamesh might be one of the strongest servants in the throne of heroes, bit can he tell em why working from 9 to 5 is a bad thing?
>what is ars nova
Obviously he can defeat ton of other op shit and was successful,but he has just way too much "fail" instances when all his potential power doesn't help him to win in the end.So even if we put him into fight with other op servants he has high-probability to lose simply due to not flawless enough execution of his attacks&defenses and making mistakes.
It's the swirls of delicious cinnamon mixed with a satisfying crunch.
You're both fucking wrong; the war that Bazett and Angra fight is based on a version of the Third War recreated by Angra.
Oh lord, another idiot who didn't play the game. You literally see them discuss fighting Heracles.
>Let me kill myself and all my works and nothing else.
What did you mean by this?
>who didn't play the game
I did; you didn't, or else you'd remember the scene where they meet the Edelfelt sisters from the Third War as played by Sakura and Rin.
No, I definitely remember. I also remember Artoria was there. But I also played the game, which is why I know they fight Heracles, retard.
youtube.com
In case you've forgotten, Bazzet also fights and is killed by Cu.
Kek Gilgamesh was the ultimate jobber.
He was the first servant to officially died on fsf.
>He was the first servant to officially died on fsf.
Why are you lying as if people can't fact check. The summaries have not confirmed his death and is being healed, which basically tells us he's going to survive like Enkidu thinks.
Except he didn't die, volume ends with him still alive.
They fight Herc because he's there because it's the castle. They fight Cu specifically because Saber lost to Bazett so you have to grab Cu instead who can achieve mutual destruction. Note that despite having allegedly beaten everyone but Herc, which would've included the Lancer of the war, Bazett still meets Cu for the "first time" later. It's left unclear who exactly else was participating.
Towelman died at the same vol yet he exploited to his advantage causing him immune to death itself. Noone can cope harder after death than this madman.
Alkeides even confirmed that Gilgamesh is below threat level than clan calatin and Jack/Flatt kek
Ohnonono cope harder gilkeks
>Towelman died at the same vol
He's still alive too, idiot.
>yet he exploited to his advantage causing him immune to death itself.
Because of grail mud buff. Hydra poison even made him stronger
>Alkeides even confirmed that Gilgamesh is below threat level than clan calatin and Jack/Flatt kek
He ditched them literally to go fight Gilgamesh because that was his true target. And he can't even win despite that. Ishtar and Humbaba had to step in to seal GoB and get the job done.
>Samefagging
allahu akbar
>Avenger explicitly says that Gil is the only one they might never been able to defeat even with all their hoaxes
>Ataraxia war, the duo's war, is based on the Third, in which their was only the 7 proper servants, which is the reason all that shit happens at all
>Gil has always been the irregular eighth
>"they defeated Gil!!!"
You're all literally newfags who never played the game, end yourselves.
Ehhhh, can you summarise me what happened user?
>Gil is in big massive fight
>realizes he lost his keys
>GoB is locked by Ishtar and Alcides poisons but not without also sustaining serious damage
>Gil is with Enkidu, still alive by the end of the novel
>Alkeides even confirmed that Gilgamesh is below threat level than clan calatin and Jack/Flatt kek
Alcides "confirmed" that Gilgamesh was strong, and even with all his NPs and an infinite mana bank, he would still need hours to settle a fight with Gilgamesh. He's even stronger now in this Vol and still couldn't clinch it.
>muh clay bf saving my life AHHH SAVE ME ENKIDU
It's not like VS is his only weapon. Brahmastra and mana bursts should be enough, also there's the problem of finding a way to kill the guy while his armour remains on.
What the fuck are you even smoking? Gilgamesh was busy fending off Richard at that point meanwhile Dumas orchestrated the fight against Alkeides with Clan Calatin and Jack/Flatt.
most servants the hospital where tsubaki was in. Gil fought Richard meanwhile Alkeides faced the clan calatin and JackFlatt. Sigma and Zealot went to saved tsubaki but stopped by Jester then we're dragged into pale rider's dream world.
The last battle was against Alkeides and Gil. Alkeides won after Gil had a technical problem on his np due to him throwing it's key just to be pick up by IshtarFillia.
Gil was dying as his saint graph was slowly fading away.
Pure comedy
Funny how Gil only lost because of Ishtar's intervention and he still isn't dead.
>Proceeds to make Gill shit his pants
Why do you love Gil so much?
>need to cheat and the help of a literal god that has a hate-boner against Gilgamesh for people to even stand a chance against him
So this is the power of the stongest heroes....
I'm talking about after, you moron. Alcides ditched them to go fight Gilgamesh. Hell, he never even forgot Gilgamesh and was holding back against the humans and Flatt because if he gave them their full attention, he feared a stray shot from GoB could hit his weakpoints and end him instantly.
>The last battle was against Alkeides and Gil. Alkeides won after Gil had a technical problem on his np due to him throwing it's key just to be pick up by IshtarFillia.
No dumbass. Alcides didn't win. Gilgamesh would have countered his arrows with the Noble phantasms already launched from GoB but he was taken off guard and afraid of True Berserker because he sensed Humbaba in the scream. After Gilgamesh took the arrows coated in hydra poisoning, he was still alive but couldnt' heal without GoB. TB/Humbaba then vores him. Alcides didn't win shit.
Why do you love shitposting so much?
>casual arrow from alcides breaks his armor
lmao
Yeah, this was more Humbaba's victory because he in two seconds got a far bigger reaction out of Gilgamesh than Alcides' entire presence throughout the war.
Writer.
/thread
>Brahmastra
Would make Karna no more powerful than other servants like Siegfried or Artoria. Even weaker really.
>mana bursts
That he can't pull off without sinking his energy reserve. The problem with Karna is that he's just very inefficient as a lancer. There is one weakness or flaw in just about everything about him.
It's a way of life.
You didn't answer my question
Bear in mind Alcides has gone through several powerups when he was already the strongest Greek in a sane mindset. Anyone who thinks the Volume is bad for Gilgamesh from a powerlevel shiposting perspective is delusional.
Come here and hug death. You have 12 seconds to live, spend them well.
Make 7 scenarios for the 7 original servants in FSN to beat Gil without crashing the story with plot holes.
You can't. Gil is too strong for some servants such as Medea or Kojiro.
>has always been called the strongest since fsn first released
>constantly wanked by Nasu in his works and irl
>still the only one who actually killed a Beast
>he's shiiiiiiiiiiiit! trust meee!
What is it about him that makes people seethe so damn hard?
Hang yourselves, GOtards.
>without crashing the story with plot holes
That wasn't part of the task. Hack writer can kill anyone.
Probably with his shitty self-insert.
I mean, yes, even before all of that, of all existing servant Gilgamesh is the one that gets nerfed the most by the class system instead of being the same or getting buffed by it
What if he just fought like Herc and used his armour to survive anything his opponents threw at him, while stabbing them to death?
>what is sha naqba imuru
But nobody is talking about FGO now ?
After Nasu is done.
Meltlilith and Kasuga
Go be mentally ill elsewhere, being upset over pixels is bad for your psyche
>Alcides ditched them to go fight Gilgamesh.
They fuckin fled gilkeks after their fight against Alkeides. Their priority was to stopped Alkeides from reaching tsubaki.
What you're blabbering was pure bullshitry
But Nasu's self insert is absolutely not Shirou
>How to avoid something that will 100% kill you with no escape
He is not an idiot, it will tell him one thing and that is to kill Ainz within 12 seconds
He'd actually do best like this. But problem is this fails against those with big dick NPs like the KoTR and above. Karna is top-tier even at his weakest but even at his shown best, he's not at Gilgamesh's level. Maybe as an Archer since that is Karna's proper class. He's only Lancer because of Vasavi Shatki, a weapon he never used in life. He's more used to being an archer or a rider.
No one is talking about GO. Which is good, mind you. I've had enough /fgog/ for a life time
>They fuckin fled gilkeks after their fight against Alkeides
Dumb retard. After Alcides revives from Flat's attack, he says he's grown stronger because of his avenger bonus and the grail mud. He then immediately shoots Nine Lives at Gilgamesh, resuming their battle.
Stop sperging because you can't even read the proper summaries.
God learn english, this monstrosity really isn't helping your point, how are we supposed to believe your understood what you read when you can't get one grammar rule correct?
>powerman.jpg
Why do you guys act like it's infallible, when his losses against people like Shiro prove that it's not?
Because he explicitly seals and does not use the skill. Look at the OP, user.
>full power gil
>compared with stay night gil
u even
All I see on this thread is that it doesn't count
Because he literally never uses it unless he wants to prove a point?
Because he only uses it to humiliate you at japanese poker.
Dunno about extra and f/go, but at the very least in FSN gil wins the most out of any servant, yes the bad ends are cannon too. The few times we see him lose are during the 3 main routes, and that bad end where medea presumably used shirou's sword origin+artoria to win the war and get the grail.
His saint graph is basically destroyed, unless Enkidu has something up his sleeve, Gill is done for.
Aqua is from comedy world so is basically impossible to beat if it were funny so chances are anyone super powered would lose to her and a slime toad would win.
Kirby swallows all.
He's going to at least do something before death otherwise Narita would've killed him flat out.
Probably become a mana battery for clae like Link
Cope harder FSNcuck. FGOchads now run Fate.
FGO is the series now. If you don't play FGO you're a secondary.
Fucking perverted infidel rejecting salvation.
any of the TYPEs
>Caster
Probably using Tier 6 spells at best.
You cannot defeat something that doesn't exist faggot.
overlord fags are mentally retarded
Anyone here
Stop posing the older one
Wow this series is schlock!
Yeah, not impressive. I wouldn't put anything Ainz does particularly high over Medea. Ia Shub Niggurath would be all he has that goes beyond her capacity (in terms of killing large quantities of random mortals, Medea has to do it by the city block, so 70,000 is a bit more in one spell at least).
gilkek is the most powerwanked fucker in Fate. Nasu's mistake was rehashing this loser in his other works after FSN
>mimics true magic
>thinks overlord trash can even compare
I mean it depends on what you call a plot hole, because those absolutely can pull it off. Kojiro's winning condition is getting in melee range to Gilgamesh. What if he was being kept a secret instead of acting like a guardian at the front gate? What if Medea empowered his present concealment, a valid tactic (I supposed she can do somthing to hide him), and once Gilgamesh came to the temple Kojiro surprise kills him by getting close before he notices?
Anyway, even without those factors, there's the possibility Kojiro can fend off his initial projectiles with a Tsubame Gaeshi and close in for a kill if Gil doesn't hop away.
At least that's the vibe I got from the UBW anime, which might have not been in the VN, with Shirou claiming his UBW is only good against Gilgamesh and that it wouldn't work against any other heroic spirit who properly trained while having flashbacks to shit like Medusa and Kojiro.
Mind you, I agree it was pretty retarded of Shirou to say that since a mindless swordspam can absolutely kill them, but it was implied they can fend off and do something to win.
Also Medea losing to Gilgamesh so easily was bullshit. She could have pulled something off, but Gil was too focused on Saber so he didn't toy around and instantly used a sword that can break any shield, it was pretty much Serious Gilgamesh there.
Had Gil toyed around like always, maybe Medea would just trap him inside a time-distortion cage or shoot lasers at him, forcing him to go on the defensive.
My dick in his yaoihole.
Gil is only for Enkidu
*blocks your path*
Medea can recruit other servants with Rule Breaker. She gets Archer on her side in UBW alone.
You could make a scenario where she brings a united front of Artoria, EMIYA, Cuchulainn, Medusa, and Heracles all together against Gilgamesh simply with political maneuvering.
Hell if she just calms down and stops being bitchy she wouldn't need "maneuvering", EMIYA and Artoria would side with her if she simply explained herself clearly and agreed to stop eating people.
And there's the fact they can just bomb the shit out of the church and Gilgamesh has NO ANSWER to getting randomly nuked while he's chilling.
And there's also random AoE attacks to melt him like Medea's Fortnite Blood Barrier, and I think Medea too can cast similar spells to that. Working together, or with enough time, they would just melt everything inside the church without him noticing. But again, nuking him is an easy option and you're vastly overrating Gilgamesh if you think he'd magically react to it.
Remember how Archer shot a nuclear arrow to Heracles from a few miles away? Now imagine that shot was actually aimed at the church while Gilgamesh is watching soap operas with Kirei. Next thing he knows, he was blown to pieces or at least is severely damaged.
Dr. Manhattan.
You said “anyone”, so...
>and Gilgamesh has NO ANSWER to getting randomly nuked while he's chilling.
Strange Fake shows you can't really do that. If Gilgamesh is serious he sets up automatic defense drones that shoot down incoming attacks. Alcides tried to assassinate his master and his arrows were just shot down without Gilgamesh even lifting a finger.
I mean thats a big If. I don't think he had anything of the sort in Stay Night where he was 100% casual, even losing because he didn't bother putting up an armor.
Now the real plothole is why didn't Archer decide to randomly blow up the church if he knew Kirei and GIl were up to no good there.
Uchiha Madara
>People think someone with a planet level attack is going to be stopped by the personification of a planet
Lmao. EA gg
Yes, but landing the hit is the issue.
BOW TO THE TRUE GOLDEN BEAST!
>another faggot thinks world = planet
Gil couldn't affect a whole planet if he wanted to.
Basara could probably solo the entire Holy Grail War and actually destroy the grail itself with his ability.
Then he'd fuck all the bitches.
Fate Powerlevelfag threads < DBZ Powerlevelfag threads
>Gil clearly says in Babylonia that the only reason they defeated Tiamat was because she lost her immortality thanks to KH, Merlin controlled the mud flow and finally Eresh was trying to block her authority.
Try again
DBZ isn't even close to the real powerlevels though, which are always Demonbane, Umineko, and Dies Irae nowadays.
Meta is the new meta.
Solomon is the king of magecraft. The war means nothing to him and he could end it by just killing all their master, use the CS of their masters to make all the servants commit suicide and a lot more, even the strongest servants are practically nothing against him.
His clarivoyance is in another level, unlike Gil he doesn't see just the future but all the past, present and future at the same time. Word of Merlin himself, only he (Merlin) is on a similar level.
The Grand Caster Solomon was the only one who could stop Goetia. That is his feat. Hell, he was so strong that when he was alive was completely omnipotent.
>David a meme
With sacrifice he can insta-kill you with THE God authority.
Jiren>Broly
Best Fate girl
The Red Man.
>The war means nothing to him and he could end it by just killing all their master, use the CS of their masters to make all the servants commit suicide and a lot more, even the strongest servants are practically nothing against him.
Headcanon. Also, Solomon can't see the the present.
Back the fuck up little boy. You can pack up your thread and go home now.
>The Grand Caster Solomon was the only one who could stop Goetia.
Because of a DEM. Goetia's entire arsenal was based on Solomon as the foundation. Solomon broke it all down from under him.
>he was so strong that when he was alive was completely omnipotent.
No. The fact that it's confirmed Goetia is superior to him (and Tiamat as well) proves you wrong.
>Still continues to sperg out
Thread's over pal. Demonbane was already posted. Your little fairy faggot shit gets beat by it too so fuck off.
Yikes!
Im impressed that he seems to by default look in two different directions.
Solomon can't see the present.
>Word of Merlin himself, only he (Merlin) is on a similar level.
As a caster, which is a low bar.
>headcanon
It's explained in his powers and his mats.
Solomon can see the past, present and future.
Merlin is the one who can only see the present from all points of view.
>Caster low bar
He is not a normal Caster, he is The Grand Caster. Grands are monsters just by themselves.
This high school kid used and abused Gilgamesh like he was nothing, I don't know what you guys are talking about.
Weak.
During the temple of time it was confirmed Solomon was Omnipotent when he was alive, try again. And the comparison between Tiamat and Solomon is between Tiamat and Solomon Fake/Goetia.
>Caster
>Low Bar
Merlin candidate for Grand Caster stop with his magic the flow of Tiamat. Solomon is THE Grand Caster. He is anything but low bar.
>During the temple of time it was confirmed Solomon was Omnipotent when he was alive, try again. And the comparison between Tiamat and Solomon is between Tiamat and Solomon Fake/Goetia.
No retard. The materials tells us Goetia surpassed the king of magic. Lion King tells us the beasts are superior to him too. Goetia took nearly everything Solomon add, then juiced by thousands of years worth of prep. Not to mention all this shit are gifts from Big G. How the fuck can you be omnipotent when there are still characters stronger than you? Do you not understand the term?
>Merlin candidate for Grand Caster
Merlin is no candidate and play the game. Read the mats, he IS Grand Caster.
>He is anything but low bar.
Low bar because 99% of casters are shitters in terms of combat. What's impressive about being a king of an ant hill? Even Merlin doesn't do anything impressive in that regard, he's all about indirect uses of magic like illusions, buffs and nerfs.
>Not a joke character in her initial appearance
>Joke character in every other one
Get fucked faggot.
Gilgamesh is planet level.
Kekber is the biggest jobber after Gil lmao
Dumbass, no, World in Nasu terms is what humans perceive as their world.
The planet is what actually is there, which is a molten rock.
EA destroys the world revealing the planet.
It's kinda funny how the strongest KoTR aren't King Arthur and his son, who both were groomed by the best magus in their era with dragon cores.
It's just french chads Lancelot and his son who were just born OP.
What is this from?
Gil sees all timelines with SNI, including ones he could win or lose in, so he knows what to do to win. Sounds like more than just present, it by default would have to include future.
The mats are translated on BL, none of the things you said are true, except for the fact that he can see both past and future.
I'm pretty sure what allows him to see different timelines is his clarivoyance, not SNI.
Liz!
yeah but the entire premise is that gil is serious, of course gil can lose to anyone whenever hes playing around.
Gil is actually galaxy tier at his peak condition
No he isn't.
...Not the Shikichads. It's over Gilbros...
>muh NP/failswitch for every situation
>If he gets serious you cant defeat him!!!1!
Reminds me of another overhyped OP meme character
>>>/e-celeb/
I'm always amused at how the dude who drew this had no idea what Demonbane was so he just drew a mass of shit and labeled it Demonbane, hoping we'd get the point.
That's not a galaxy, unless Gilgamesh suddenly became several thousand light years tall.
Swirly lights does not a galaxy make.
Mats confirm that those are just giant force fields so anyone saying Gil is galaxy level is full of shit.