Sarazanmai

Is Enta the new Anthy?

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I'm so looking forward to his evil laugh meltdown.I hope he's truly crazy laughing like he did when he found Keppi.

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the only good part of Death Note was the laugh in the final episode, I hope he does that again

I won't be satisfied with just a sadistic laugh. It has to be absolutely batshit. I'm hoping that's why Mabu actually tries to stop him because he's just so far gone.

Why do you think he's the new Anthy?

Utena - lose
Penguindrum - one side ceases to exist (lose)
Yurikuma - win
Sarazanma - ???

Glasses

How many kids does Reo have to kill or attempt to kill before fujo realize he's not getting a happy ending?

One successful kill is enough.

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Miyano is a real beast when it comes to characters losing it. I still remember him as Berg Katze in Crowds, easily the best VA performace that season.

Visual parallels like the hair parting & megane, rose motif and self sacrifice as per the spoilers

I want to offer Sara my cucumber.

>Utena - lose

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Anthy wins the bowl, though.

I'm still mad, why torture the character who was homeless and had nothing

It’s referring to whether childhood friends win or lose the MCbowl in Ikuhara works. because it’s a shipper who is convinced that since two certain characters are forgotten childhood friends, they’re going to be canon.

It would feel cruel to have the ending of Reo's story just be suffering and death rather than any kind of redemption or him atoning for his wrongdoings. If it's just suffering and then death, then really, what was the thematic point of his character?

Also two of the more "love them or hate them" characters, although I can't imagine Enta saying "I've always despised you"

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>what was the thematic point of his character?
Showing that homosexuality always lead to sin. Today you fuck boypussy, tomorrow you shoot children.

I adore Anthy but I'm neutral on Enta. It really looks like the "love them or absolutely hate them" character will be Reo.

feel like pure shite just want her back

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I know, but Anthy doesn't "lose" in SKU.

Anthy is not Utena’s childhood friend.

Everyone literally loves Reo. Hell, some people will probably love him more after episode 8.

Homeless fags don't deserve happiness

I guess I'll save my judgement until after the episode comes out because if he's doing this all while clearly legitimately insane then it won't be as divisive, probably.

Is the childhood friends thing even relevant this time or does he just have to put that shit in every anime?

Honestly even knowing what happened I still don’t dislike him, or any other characters. Kazuki seems like he’d going to be unusually awful for a very weak reason, though we haven’t seen the episode so full details are needed

I don't dislike any of the characters.

Considering it's gotten foreshadowing I can't imagine it being irrelevant.

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If anything I just feel sad for Reo, seeing how far he's fallen and how unstable he is. Still my favorite, though. I don't dislike any of the characters either and hope they all get a satisfying ending. Hopefully Ikuni doesn't pull any bullshit like he did with Lulu.

Fujoshi love Reo. I have no investment in him.

Enta isn't dead that spoiler was fake. Ep ends with reo about to shoot kazuki

Reo is best boy and if everyone else has to die for him to get a happy end, that's ok.

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Source?

Explain Entafujo on twitter absolutely tweaking out and people sobbing, as well as the Rose on Lapintrack’s page.

So Enta doesn't take the bullet for Kazuki?

Absolutely patrician taste.

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But Utena did meet her in childhood. It checks out.

Goddamn, is there a character set up to more woobie than Toi? It's obvious he's set up as the suffering forgotten childhood friend who has to put with Kazuki and Enta's shit while he pines for Kazuki. He has no real serious flaws, he's just the victim of his brother. While everyone else gets more divisive, he comes more perfect. Cool for the people who want their husbandos to be pure, boring in a show where everyone has flaws.

I know she met Akio/Dios. What am I missing here?

Anthy helped poison an innocent woman to death, mindfucked Mikage and stabbed the one girl who truly loved her and she got a happy ending. Not all hope is lost.

She saw Anthy and vowed to save her. Its the forgotten childhood meeting trope. He did the same thing with Kureha and Ginko. KazuToi is endgame.

Otterly wrong

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>he pines for Kazuki
Doubt but I hope so.

I got spoiled about the child broiler room before I finished penguindrum so I was kinda disappointed he didn't do the same for Shouma and Himari.

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Toi is a criminal who with a broken morality though.
He adheres to his brother's world view about evil.
He is just less broken than Kazuki or Enta

Because he has a dark past, so nobody’s going to actually hold him accountable/see it as a character flaw.

Toi is a kid who's a victim of his brother and its not portrayed as selfish as the other two. He looks like the stoic woobie type and those ones have always been popular. You can't deny out of all the main cast hge's the most flawless.

I do? Suffering or trauma is not an excuse unless you have some for mental illness like PTSD.
I for one dislike his drug trade and see his adoration is brother is dangerous

I think we are just missing his character arc. Like, we are doing Enta right now, next is his. Again, I just think that he is the lesser evil or needs more focus.

I think it will depend on his brother and if Toi becomes blind to his brother's flaws. People were fine with his feelings towards his brother because they were hot for him, but the spoilers show the brother wasn't that great. Reo has done the most fucked up stuff so far but because we saw ReoMabu in other material people can sympathize with why he's so obsessed with Mabu.We don't have that reason for why Enta is so obsessed with Kazuki, for example, so its easier to be unsympathetic towards him.

What is the truth?

Enta just has an unhealty crush, it is not that simple.

Most people gloss over his view of only the strong surviving because it sounds edgy and they subscribe to this view. They don't think how that view can justify awful acts and how Toi and his brother use it to justify shady actions.

It apparently worked because he’s the most popular character second to the cops. KazuToi fags will ignore Kazuki’s shit behavior so they can self-insert as him and EnToi fags made a ship out of nothing so they can do the same thing. He’s like a Sasuke clone but honestly less well written.

The other characters get absolutely shredded in the threads at some point. Toi never does.

>つながりたいけど、もう会えない
;_;

He asked for it. Quite literally.

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Yep, all Toi gets is "best boy shilling" and either incest fantasies or shipping bullshit.

I like flawed characters. I would actually like him to be more selfish or cruel or anything besides a victim of his past and circumstance. I don’t dislike him as a character but it’s made him so much less compelling than Kazuki and Enta in my opinion.

>Sara will timeloop and insert herself as geisatsu's child causing Mabu to reject the mission request. As a result, Reo and Mabu will be doing actual patrolling when the important shit goes down. Reo will arrest Yurikamone and Mabu will pull Haruka out of the intersection
That would heal my soul. Bless you for thinking of it, even though it won't happen.

Kek even Ikuhara says he would be the “ideal” husband out of the three.

I thought Ikuhara always got things really dark, amped up the suffering, but ultimately did relatively happy endings? Or am I just in denial?

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He's Ikuhara's self-insert, the same way Ruka is. "Cool" bad boys whose flaws are glossed over because the creator likes them too much.

Isn't Mabu more of an Anthy?

Ikuhara had Sailor Mars as he's waifu so we can conclude his taste is shit

The way the anime writes him and in turn how it makes the fandom react to him just turns me off. I don't want him to be hated, but I don't care him because this type of writing just feels so jarring in this show. When everyone else has developments and Toi is just a dindu. Haruka being flawless isn't the same because he's a plot device, not a main character.

Dr.Pavel, im a HOMOSEX.

No one cared who i was until i put on the wig.

If i put this dick in you butt will you die?

It will be extremely painful...

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That’s exactly how I feel. I like Ikuhara’s work precisely because he makes absolutely shitty people that you still end up caring for and rooting for despite yourself. Toi seems like bland husbandobait in comparison to Kazuki and Enta who act more human, fairly horrible at times even though they’re obviously good kids.

Reo and Mabu deserve to be happy together. Show me their backstory, Ikuhara.

I'm pretty sure Toi has room to fuck up soon. Finding out that his brother isn't a great guy will give him room for growth.

Makes sense since their stories mirror each otter

Considering spoilers, does anyone else feel like the Enta/Mabu parallels are going to continue?

>rose association
>similar design and eye color
>similar death scene

maybe Kazuki is going to make a deal with the otters to bring Enta back as an emotionless doll, too

China banned Sarazanmai.

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I'm surprised it took this long.

Also Senryuu Shoujo, Isekai Quatet and Mayonaka no Occult Koumuin.

Do they ban every animu? Their standards seem pretty low.

Based China banning homosexual propaganda.

He was also the most picky with his design. Self insert confirmed.

He is the most mature of the three and probably knows a thing or two about budgeting, so is that any surprise?

>Isekai Quartet
How is this one any controversial? It's a gag show.

I mean their hair always looks a little similar

The problem is precisely that he lacks flaws

Accept for the fact that he deals drugs and waterboards people

He has flaws but they’re explained away by his past or “cool” flaws. Again it just sticks in contrast with Enta and Kazuki who have more realistic flaws such as selfishness or cruelty.

Skeletons

He was fucking breaking into somebody's car in the first episode.

Is tooi's weed room in his house?

>He has flaws but they’re explained away by his past
A character flaw that is a result of the character's past is no less of a character flaw.

This is how literally every discussion of Toi's flaws goes
>wahhhh he has no flaws
>people list flaws
>d-doesn't count

I think the "relatively" is the big word there for Utena and Penguindrum.

Too spooky.

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None of these are portrayed as to make him unsympathetic. You feel compelled to hate Kazuki for stealing and hurting a cat, or the mess Enta made this ep. Toi's illegal deeds are not reflections of flaws in his character, they're more a reflection of how he's a victim of his circumstances or to show off how cool & edgy he is. The rest of the characters have more fundamental flaws that push them to the boundaries of their inner morality to obtain their desire (or love), Toi has only been "bad boy" husbandobait.

No, just Toifags making excuses for their husbando as usual.
Toi’s flaws make him look cooler. He harms literal who characters that nobody cares about. Nobody shreds him and everyone loves him because he’s literally the “bad boy with a good heart” character. He saves Enta from bullies and snaps Kazuki out of his bad behavior.

Kazuki and Enta have unpleasant human flaws. People constantly give them flak. They’re selfish, jealous, cruel, self centered or conniving. Even if they have reasons to be that way, nobody makes excuses for them the way they do for Toi. When Enta even suggests or does anything against Toi he’s literally Satan because “muh best boy”.

Reo but he goes to Silent Hill

Every character in this is a -bait of some sort.

enta is a otter

>D-DOESN'T COUNT
Every time

He does have bright green eyes and unseen parents.

Is this the title?

Fuck, I missed. Meant for . Sorry.

I bet you think being clumsy or shy or just too kind for your own good are character flaws, too. Go read twilight.

yeah, apparently people were sobbing when the title came up

It is when it's not given narrative weight. Kazuki and Enta's flaws have been deliberately written and shown in certain scenes to make people have "what a shit" reactions, like the Enta reveal at episode 7, Kazuki saying he hates Haruka, etc

Well now I understand them.

Yeah, Toi hasn't done anything at a pivotal moment to piss anyone off yet. Now if he turns on Kazuki to protect his brother after his brother does something shitty, then people would shred him too.

>D-D-DOESN'T COUNT
Holy shit, breaking into someone's car and waterboarding somebody are not akin to being clumsy or shy. There are plenty of people living in poverty who actually don't commit crime to get by, but Toi and his brother chose to take the easy way through survival.

There isn't really a good way to give all flaws equal weight, because some flaws are better at pissing off audiences than others. Your audience might not necessarily get mad at seeing crime, but breaking into somebody's car is a lot worse than just being selfish, which everyone is to some degree.

Not a Toifag, but I think you're missing his actual flaws and looking at the characters entirely in terms of who-pissed-off-the-segment-of-the-audience-I-pay-attention-to is a bad way to go about this sort of analysis. Admittedly they're not as big or flashy as the rest of the cast, but blind adoration of his brother is a big one and then the central one for him if you ask me is that he's ultimately reactive, not proactive in his life. It's the thing Toi is ultimately deeply hung up on about his brother––he wants to do the saving for once, not be saved, not continue to be a victim––but he routinely fails to take action. What's he been doing the whole show? Waiting for his brother. Getting led around by the nose by Kazuki. He doesn't proactively try to connect. And just like Kazuki in the first half, he's repressed his actual wants and needs in service of someone else who he cares about, even if it's ultimately detrimental to both of them.

Just let it go. The fact that people will constantly justify everything he does because he’ll never do anything aggravating or infuriating no matter what is indicative enough.

You know why people cry about "no flaws"? Because crimes are not something a lot of people can relate to. People can relate to selfishness, sibling conflicts or unanswered gay crush, but criminal activity is something from the other world for them. Plus there is a certain aspect of crime romantisization in fiction, many people see crimes not as a flaw, but as a rebellious, adventurous act, especially if it's petty crime like robbery or weed dealing.

You're not really getting the point. In fiction personal flaws always illicit more of a reaction than abstract ones. Even being reactive, those flaws are always more favored by people than characters who are more active but who fuck up. A character who fucks up by inaction is easier to be seen as a victim of others, in this case a victim of his brother and being pushed into a life of crime at a young age. Enta's just not as compelling in comparison.

Kazuki
>leaves a trail of hurt in his way over his own problems
Enta
>selfish and conniving because he’s got an obsessive crush
Reo
>fucking kills people to achieve his own selfish goal, hurts Mabu2 by unwilling to accept him
Toi
>he wuvs his awful big brother too much ):

>looking at the characters entirely in terms of who-pissed-off-the-segment-of-the-audience-I-pay-attention-to is a bad way to go about this sort of analysis.
I wish more people understood this.

I fucking hate his faggy comparison so I'm sticking it under a spoiler tag, but I think of it as the Umbridge effect. People hate Professor Umbridge a lot more than they hate Voldemort. Is that because she's worse than a mass murderer? No, it's because her flaws are a hell of a lot more personal than mass murder. Certain things are bound to piss people off in fiction a lot more than others not necessarily because they're actually objectively worse, but because those traits are a lot more viscerally disgusting to us by virtue of how often we're likely to come across them.

Toi actually being involved in organized crime is way worse than Kazuki saying he hates his brother. Way worse. The yakuza controls pretty much all human trafficking in Japan, for fuck's sake.

People do get mad about crime, but only if the character hurts someone the audience likes or identifies with. The Punisher mowing down mooks to avenge his dead family is badass. An antagonist hurting the heroes, even if they're more sympathetic or have a reason, will piss people off more if they're hurting the viewer identification characters. Its not always based in logic or how bad actions are in real life, and always based in emotional reactions from people.

>he turns on Kazuki to protect his brother after his brother does something shitty
This. His loyalty to his brother is the only way I can see him do something shitty.

>says "fucking kills people" for Reo but conveniently leaves that off of Toi

Sometimes you want to tell people to stop projecting their issues with their old teachers or exes onto fiction.

It doesn’t matter what’s objectively worse when the narrative and fandom make excuses for it and rationalize it.

I want to cum in aniki!

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I mean you can frame all of them as "does bad things because he loves someone too much" if you're trying to make them sound stupid. Kazuki loves his cripple little brother too much, Enta loves his distant best friend too much, Reo loves his dead boyfriend too much, etc

I mean yeah, I think that's part of it for sure. Personally he ultimately feels like he's meant to be a thematic counterpoint to Kazuki.

Who gives a shit about the "fandom"

There are people in this thread right now telling you that the way he lives is not okay, and somehow you are reading this as "justifying everything he does". Think about how retarded that is for a moment.

>entire discussion dedicated to the viewpoint that actually Toi is pretty fucked up
>WAHHHHHH EVERYONE'S RATIONALIZING HIS ACTIONS

Its not that the way Toi lives is okay, its that he was forced into it as a young age and its more sympathetic than Enta just being a dumbass teen just because.

Why did he try to secretly betray the other two, when he knew that their secrets get revealed after they defeat a kappa zombie anyway?

Toi killed in self defense, how is that a character flaw?

I want aniki to cum in me!
Daily reminder to pray this gets scanned

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I love Mabu.

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You guys know a character's messed up actions can be understandable but still not necessarily a good thing, right? That's pretty much where Toi is. His actions come from an understandable place like pretty much everyone else in the show, but acknowledging that doesn't mean you're giving him a pass or whatever. I don't crucify the other boys either because at the end of the day everybody's a product of their past.

The yakuza is romanticized so much in media I see more people who like them and see them as a place for bad boys with a hearts of gold to protect their communities. The same people are usually moralfags who freak out about murder in fiction, so the exception the yakuza get from them probably has to do with what you listed.

Because he's an idiot with a low IQ.

How is that more sympathetic than Enta being a dumbass teen? I feel like this is more revealing of what you find worthy of sympathy than anything about the characters. Both Enta and Kazuki's actions (and even Reo's, just look at the number of people in this thread who would find it hard to hate him even if he does kill Enta for real!) are framed as desperate and misguided. You're not supposed to hate them for it unless you're some psychotic tumblr teen who thinks that Enta is a literal rapist.

The difference is Toi hasn't hurt a character people actually liked yet. Kazuki, Enta and Reo all have.

Everyone is only discussing how he’s fucked up because someone dared to criticize their husbando. The rest of the time literally everywhere it’s a constant dicksucking session, when everyone else in the whole series has gotten criticized at length.

I think... in a weird way he wanted it to be found out? Like right after his first leak he fantasizes about Kazuki accepting him, but Kazuki just pretends "oh it was a dare from the soccer team haha yeah right bro!"

Enta just wants his feelings to be known, and this is something that will at least force Kazuki to give him an answer.

Not at all. I actually identify a lot more with being a dumbass teenager who made retarded choices than I do with being forced into a life of crime. I get where Enta is coming from probably more than I get where Toi is coming from, even if I like Toi better.

Then act like it, Reo.

Keppi transformed Enta against his will this time, I don't think this was intentional.

Wow, Toi really is a lot like Ikuhara’s stand-in. You can’t bitch about anything he does in the show without a litany of people excusing it as his style and telling you to watch another show.

So how many fujoshits are gonna drop their preorders when their stupid ship isn’t canon and Ikuhara takes the narrative in bizarre directions for retarded melodrama?

Ok but consider tooi topping

(you)

The thing pretending to be Mabu should go away.

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Reo is easier to feel sympathy for because he had a manga and a twitter account where you saw him and Mabu together. People saw Reo was capable of love and they want to see him go back to that. They can understand why he loves Mabu so much because they were in a relationship together. With Enta we don't know why he's so obsessed with Kazuki. It's easier to just see him as creepy, especially if you see him as the obvious jealous rival who will lose the love triangle.

>Toi actually being involved in organized crime is way worse than Kazuki saying he hates his brother. Way worse. The yakuza controls pretty much all human trafficking in Japan, for fuck's sake.
You don't understand how a narrative works, of course if this were the real world being involved with the yakuza is worse, murder is worse. But these are not real people. Have you watched Hinamatsuri? The main character is a respected yakuza, but his internal morality and strength of character when putting up with what the plot throws at him make him deeply sympathetic.
Character flaws are internal, their crimes hold no weight. Law has no weight when we all know this is make believe. For example, if you've watched Breaking Bad, the reason why Walter White became unsympathetic had squat to do with the meth dealing, it was because he became a genuinely awful person internally and treated every other meaningful character like shit.

Fujos are oversensitive, touch their favorite for whatever reason and they'll write a scroll of reasons why you are wrong. Talking in general, not about Tooi (whom unironically is one of the characters I like the most).

>With Enta we don't know why he's so obsessed with Kazuki
Because he has a crush. What’s there to know?

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>Fujos are oversensitive
Those are only western fujos and they don't matter. Nip fujos are usually aware that it's unlikely their ship will be canon.

>auburn-ish hair
>green eyes
>likes mc
>loses
>gets more development than the person they lose to

WTF this is just Yurikuma again

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Why do you care so much what other people think about the characters?

The narrative clearly frames all of the cast as sympathetic, despite their deeply flawed actions.

How do we even know he loses? There’s literally no canon romantic feelings presented except Enta -> Kazuki and ReoMabu.
though I do think he will lose because I’m firmly convinced there won’t be any happy endgame ships

Bittersweet EntaToi is endgame

Consider: Mabu topping.

>People saw Reo was capable of love and they want to see him go back to that.
I can't believe Ikuni is drawing parallels with meta shit

>Enta we don't know why he's so obsessed with Kazuki.
Unless they give us a concrete reason for his seemingly growing obsession, It's possibly due to Toi being there. Ikuni said on the web radio that jealousy is the biggest thing that put people to action, and if we go by that Enta may not have gone beyond his own creepy fantasies if Toi never came into the picture.

Enta and Toi will be like Tabuki and Yuri.

Mabu is a power bottom

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Boring. I want to hear him moan like a greedy loveslut while shoving his hips down on Reo's fat dick.

I consider it all the time. Ikuni is a fool

Enta as Yuri?

He could get Reo pregnant.

Of course.

This counts
This is acceptable
He truly is. Or, perhaps he led us to the key to their problems. Mabu need to be more assertive. Mabu needs to top to save Reo.
Use the plates to wish for mpreg

Mabu2 tops Reo
Reo tops Mabu1

Stop talking about stupid shit and post best ship.

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Reo sandwich doujin of Reo's fevered nightmares when

But he would be healed from homosexuality and end up with a girl

>lewd scene in ep 9
what will it be?

You mean like Anno?
Or he might attempt to drug rape Haruka out of desperation.

Sara has sex with Keppi

>More paper-thin "development"
>More telegraphed character cliches
>All intermixed with Ikuhara masturbating on film
I regret watching this past its halfway point.
There is absolutely nothing in here if you're not interested in discussing which non-character should fuck whichever other excuse for an archetype.

Dicksucking

I like Toi. I don’t think he’s “flawless” either. But he hasn’t shown a truly ugly side. Yet.

>Sara has sex with Keppi
>and it's revealed that they are siblings

I want to put a baby in Mabu.

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Wait why episode 9?

W-where did you get this info?

>>and it's revealed that they are siblings
The missing element.

Reo walking in on otters gangbanging Mabu. They tell Mabu that they won't revive Enta unless he takes five otter dicks at once.

Tooi will sexually harass the cops. Screencap this.

Ssshh, these threads are Ikunifag safe spaces.

Then why don't you, Reo? Man up and fuck him already.

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that's hot user small top big bottom is a top tier kink, I want Toi to kiss and trace all of aniki's scars will fucking him, begging him not to leave

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Reanimated corpses can't carry a pregnancy to term.

Mabu can if he goes through more maintenance.

Fuck, I just want them to be happy again.

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The only episode with a resemblance of plot was episode 6. It'll all be rushed in the last 2 episodes.

otters forcing reo to watch as shadow reo fucks mabu2
otters holding reo down while mabu2 fuck him

Die, lying otter. Stop giving Mabu semen injections.

But Mabu needs lots of semen injections to go back to normal, usso.

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The ending is going to be garbage but everyone will cry when a character sacrifices themselves and forgive all bad writing because people think an ending is good if it made them cry.

All degenerates must die, dish

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Alright

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If you don't praise Ikuhara you are labeled as brainlet.

dont talk ill of your parents

She looks creepy here. I don't like this art style.

Today's lucky selfie is: "Dead fags!"

I wonder how he keeps doing it.
It's not like his shit sells, and it's usually devoid of stuff that would make BDs sell in the domestic market.
Not even elitists have bought anything he's made past Penguindrum, he'd have much more luck making stuff in the west where pretentious hipsters are a dime a dozen.

Take the average liberal arts student and they'd cream themselves at the "surreal style" and "LGBT representation" in anything he makes.

Papa Reo and Papa Mabu are pure.

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Does Ikuni really hate homosexual men?

Considering this is the worst series he's ever made, he really might.

Stop posting

from a now deleted Ishikawa tweet

He should have followed Watanabe's example and sell himself to Netflix.

Because he's influential and industry people and artsy circles like him.
Sometimes you don't need to appeal to the masses to be big. Look at Yuasa, pretty sure he stuff doesn't sell a lot either.
I'm also convinced Ikuni should have turned to Netflix, Sarazanmai feels a little blue balles and Netflix allowed Yuasa to insert as many sex scenes and beheading as he wanted. Maybe we would have gotten a longer anime and more explicitly coupley scenes between past Reo and Mabu without using safe language like aibou.

Stop eating garbage made to appease a man with the ego of an art student and the creativity of a Hollywood producer

>Look at Yuasa
Yuasa makes enjoyable anime that's narratively consistent and a good watch, regardless of whether or not you care about symbolism and the deeper meaning.
It has different layers you can enjoy on their own even while ignoring the others, and getting to know more of them only enriches the experience.

Ikuhara is a complete void.
There is no underlying anything, it's purely symbolic and abstract all the way through. Any meaning or intricacy is buried behind obtuse complexity that's made to make people think everything shown is deep, even if there was nothing behind it.
Ikuhara is a contemporary artist, the kind of person who'd drip a couple of drops of paint on a canvas, title the work "Points of view", then fellate themselves endlessly over it while claiming the painting is pure art because of the masterful double meaning.
Get it? It's POINTS. But points OF VIEW change how you see things! WOAH!!

That's the extent of the depth Ikuhara is capable of.

did anyone else here try the chicken? i thought the chicken was lovely

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Hot

She's going to kill Keppi

What chicken?

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I'm really enjoying Sarazanmai. It's fun.

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I hope so. Though I sort of wonder about the whole freezing Keppi thing. It sounds like the boys never got the 5th plate from Keppi, since, at least according to the 5chers Reo only makes off with four of them so like what if Sara deliberately froze him to prevent Keppi from giving up the final plate?

Are you fucking stupid? Why running your mouth when you don't know shit?
He is an established director in Japan and famous worldwide; like you said, he's influential. He is influential enough to get all his bizarre, atypical projects greenlighted eventually. His works are NOT explicit like Yuasa's and will never be because that's not his style. He's not being stopped by anyone and he doesn't need Netflix if he wants to insert more "explicitly coupley scenes". Even if he had gotten a contract with Netflix, Sarazanmai would have still been the same identical product. Stop talking when you can't even tell apart two different artistic approaches.

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>Are you serious, Toi? He's the reason Enta's dead!
>So what?! You can't blame him for what happened, he wasn't the one who killed him! And It's not like you cared about Jinnai anyway!

I want to see this, but I also kinda feel like Toi doesn't have any reason to side with Kazuki. How is this going to end up being bad for Toi?

Enta being cucked is better

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Enta gets cucked by Haruka

To be fair he literally had to lie to get Sarazanmai on the air. But hey, whatever works. The fact that his stuff flops or underperforms and he still gets it made is pretty impressive, not gonna lie.

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If anything, I feel like Kazuki will cycle back to his self-blaming self rather than blaming Chikai who really doesn't seem to have anything to do with Enta's actual cause of death (saying this solely based on spoilers of course)
>he turns on Kazuki to protect his brother after his brother does something shitty
I hate how plausible this sounds. Chikai and Toi's relationship seems a bit warped (again based on spoilers), I wouldn't even be surprised if they really had something incestuous going on.

Yeah, but then nobody tried to stop him anymore.

Otterly lying won't make it any less true

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His stuff gets shorter and shorter though. Next Ikuni series will be six OVA or something.

>I feel like Kazuki will cycle back to his self-blaming

Yeah this sounds the most plausible to me. Plus there's a good chance he didn't even see Chikai's interaction with Enta to begin with and I'm not even sure he'd have the opportunity to confront Toi since he's leaving Asakusa with Chikai while Enta gets shot

I find the incest thing really implausible though just because I don't think Chikai's been around Toi long enough for anything to have happened.

USSSO de wa nai

That would be really sordid, even for Ikuhara. I’d be surprised if he did it but I also wouldn’t put it past him.

user, spoiler!

Also, probably for max melodrama/suffering.

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Presumably because he got in the way.

Delete this right now.

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I'd wait even 10 years if I could have a 24 episodes anime like Penguindrum again.

>who really doesn't seem to have anything to do with Enta's actual cause of death
I thought so too. Even then, all he did was push Enta to get away from the henchman. I doubt the henchman would've done anything to Enta since he's only after Chikai, so shoving Enta towards the henchman is like shoving an inanimate object. The henchman wouldn't have cared either way. Why did Reo kill him anyways?

I'm sorry! I'll be more careful next time!

He lied on Sarazanmai's pitch. YKA using safe language was probably thematic. Utena still feels like Ikuhara's riskier work and he hasn't replicated that.

>Why did Reo kill him anyways?
His target was Kazuki, for the plates. Enta took the bullet for him.

Mabu's happiness is this, usso.

It’s ok, it happens.

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I was asking why Reo killed the henchman.

Ah, sorry ;_; I missed this detail in the reports I've read. All I knew is that he killed a rando. So it was the hechman..

>anything he's made past Penguindrum
So... Yurikuma? Try harder.

>There is no underlying anything, it's purely symbolic and abstract all the way through.
I'm sorry you have the interpretative capacity of a 13yo

You killed him.

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Nip and other eastern fujos will literally block you for writing the ship name order wrong. They're oversensitive in their own ways.

>will literally block you for writing the ship name order wrong
Good.

this is an exageration, for years I have been friends and mutuals with Japanese fanartist who ship the same characters in different order and literally no one says anything and everyone likes and retweet shit each other of us do

The fact that they erase you from their life instead of pestering you until they get tired of it makes them the superior race.

And now fuck off with metaposting.

If Ikuni blocks me for saying that Mabu tops then so be it

It's ok user!
>So it was the hechman
Yeah I got that part from here

If you say Mabu tops you deserve whatever you get.

Why is no one scanlating the manga and getting it out before the Twitter attentionwhore who doesn't speak Japanese gets her hands on it?

You mean this? mangadex.org/title/37634/sarazanmai

why cant they switch sometimes

Yes, the recent manga adaptation.
comic-boost.com/series/166

Episode 7 reaction pic for the chart will be interesting.

The translator is someone on wordpress.

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Pretty sure they're talking about the "editor" and their Twitter, if you don't recognize the name

>who doesn't speak Japanese gets her hands on it?

Who cares about that? As long as the translation isn't done by someone "who doesn't speak Japanese" as user says.

I guess. The editor attempts translations on their own website too which are pretty terrible, glad this is done by someone else at least

Someone posted this a few threads ago

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kek all the girls involved with that are annoying fucks

still a twitter attentionwhore, the lot of them. like said

>page 9
nervous enta.webm

there isn't a lot to discuss until next preview is up
I have seen no one bring this up but how different are the episodes from the cafe to what airs in tv? Usually the animation is unfinished but I haven't seen anyone point differences
I recall people saying some Banana Fish episodes ere dreadful

This is by Lapin Track not MAPPA.

Why did Lapin track post a random picture of a rose?

Has anyone figured out where the rose pic was taken

You’re the attentionwhore, you whore

I think they said it was on the roof of their building

that was just the first example that came to my mind, a lot fo anime have prescreening events and prescreen episodes are rarely finished

When the next episode will be out?

Same day of the week as always.

Thursdays

Is it wrong to think this thing is adorable?

Usso

Otters are cute and happy!

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Will even the finale be prescreened?

What's Noitamina's practice regrading their shows?

Not rape otters.

He is cute

It is not rape, Mabu asked for it.

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I know you’re referring to the anime, but I can’t forget all the anecdotes shared in these threads of male otters murdering and or raping other otters and baby seals.

In all aspects except physically
I am Reo

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Are you getting cucked by an otter?

Reo, save you wife.

in a very convoluted and symbolic way.
Yes

when does the next ep preview come out again?

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You abduct little kids and shred up their entrails?

21h

you don't?

i want to cum inside aniki

I want tooi to cum inside chikai

I love Reo and all his fuckups so much.

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I'm not sure, but I am only in Tokyo for ten days. I could only be spoileranon twice.

Aw shucks back to 5ch and nip twitter spoilers.

Thank you for your service

Did Service Boy just learn the secret to why they picked otters to be kappa adversaries?

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I barely got into the second showing and had other things to do during the third so I'm lucky I was able to be spoileranon more than once. /blog

He should have wiki'd up nip folklore shit like everyone else.

He is the best boy.

Bless you, user

Best boy forever and ever, no matter how badly he fucks his life up.

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Look at this wonderful man

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It's painful to see how far he's fallen or hopeful for where he'll end up if this somehow is a sequel.

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Bring back manga Reo 2020

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I'm actually surprised real otters are as big as dr rape otter

i want aniki to cum inside me

Go to sleep Toi

Got around to watching the latest episode. This may seem nitpicky, but the limited animation in the scene where Reo learns that Mabu's dead didn't really work with his VA's overwrought performance. It just bugged me is all.

him slipping from a can and the things he said to toi now look deliberate after rewatching the episode

Why is twitter now convinced Enta is a ftm tranny?

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why do you care what twitter thinks?

Nip twitter, I mean. It just came out of nowhere.

Are you seeing text or art of it?

why was kazuki dressed like a typical girl?

yeah, the animation didnt match the emotion put into the performance, it was as if it didnt belong
maybe he emotes more in bd

>EnToi fags made a ship out of nothing so they can do the same thing
Stop projecting. I like it because I've always liked crack, and the two side-characters getting together instead of having their focus on the main is a fun idea. I liked their interactions, small as they were, but if anything the one I like more is Enta.

The sample size on Yea Forums is far too small ad skewed to reflect the majority, especially on the nip side.

Only the fans gloss over Ruka dish.

Megan is the one who doesn't know Japanese yet google translates things until better translators correct her yet still gets a ton of attention and people crediting information to her. She's kind of like the tora/karice of Sarazanmai, if you know the reference.

The animation was competent if lackluster, but I do wonder if they rushed that part. Hopefully the BDs will change it indeed.

>She's kind of like the tora/karice of Sarazanmai, if you know the reference.
Tora actually knows Japanese, but she intentionally reworked the text to make it sound less homo as possible.
Both of them are annoying for different reasons.

If it's a sequel then it means things have reset, doesn't it?

This, why do all the retarded twitterfags flock to her?

Enta was basically acting the whole episode, dish. Wait for him to genuinely connect with Toi, 8 is still early enough to get shit fixed and friendship end to happen.

Stop talking about this here dish. Get a discord or whatever fujos use dish.

Stop fucking roleplaying

>it's going to be the tamest Ikuhara, no disturbing sexual scenes or character death
Now we're only lacking incest to complete the package.

>dish
cringe

What was the context for the childhood friend reveal? How did it happen?

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Stop bringing your personal grudges here, fujos.

It was already described as "vanilla" from the start. Still enjoy it but I hope Ikuhara takes time before making his next anime, gets a writer who can elevate him, and grab 24 eps.

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Ded

Only kiss of true love can revive this thread!

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Goddamit I still can't choose between this and Toi x Enta.

How is it even a choice?

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Yeah. This.

Does no one like Kazuki x Enta?

Can't wait until this ship gets sunked.

No, but I’ll laugh my ass off if it ends up being endgame after all.

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Why choose? They all have two holes.

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They're both shit

Please tell me this isn't the full pic.

pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=74837198

>translation drama
stop vendetta posting in the thread and go make a discord, it's not that hard

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Endgame right here.

That would imply the protagonist loved him.

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Can't find more info other than it was Tooi who gave the misanga to Kazuki

Where is this going?

Imagine being the inferior second boy to give the person you love a micanga. Being Enta must be hell.

It is

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That's actually sort of cute? It also explains why he keeps getting his ass kicked: the T hasn't kicked in yet.

Too lewd! No more than hand holding until they're 16!

What does it say?

I think it's from an interview, I could be wrong:
Horie said that Ikuhara said that “Enta is like a girl in a Shoujo manga, it has that impression. Kazuki is like a prince from that kind of manga”

Only in Enta's fantasies.

If Toi is old enough to kill someone he's old enough to dick someone.

endgame right here brothers, we won

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Otter empires's invasion was Great Kanto earthquake of 1923.
Asakusa's famous 12 stories building was destroyed then.
Mabu was the guardian god of Asakusa. And he represents old pre modern Japan from Meiji and Edo era. Otter empire is modern capitalist Japan.
Keppi was divided into two person at the invasion. One was dark keppi who pursues desire and serves to capitalism. The other one was light keppi who pursues love but he was made into cold sleep in the Kappa statue. At least this is the Japanese fan's view.

Seems legit.

But even light Keppi is suspicious as fuck

source on this?

>Mabu was the guardian god of Asakusa
Where's this coming from?

stupid homo

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moar

Genbu 玄武 is ancient Chinese turtle god. A spirit who guards the land. And Reo may be Byakko, another guardian god of white tiger.

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Has anyone read Mabu's and Reo's tweets?

Yeah, they're available translated with notes.

Is he monologing how much he wants Kazuki to fuck him?

At least learn basic moon, you fags, if all you do is posting fanart 24/7.

I've been seeing that around too like the orange peel he posted on twitter. More to be revealed later hopefully.

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Yep, they're entertaining.

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It’s referring to how they’ve been presented. He does act like a shojo heroine, though I’m pretty sure his friends would have noticed if he was dickless by now

>his friends
But he has none but Kazuki. And we saw how much shit Kazuki gives about him.

I meant during the sarazanmai session. Pretty sure he’s got nuts.

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Those look more like puffy vag lips. And yeah, Kazuki would be that oblivious.

It’s possible, but unlikely

Polillafleur on twitter

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Enta is the new Anno.

That instead of looking a gift horse in the mouth you should just stick your dick in it?

Wait, nips are speculating that he might be ftm? That’s unheard of. I really doubt that he is though

who is this megan so I know how to avoid her? her social media sites so I block them

Stop trying to bring drama from other places here.

nah, nips have done the same before is just that people dont notice it because the lgbt terms used by them are largelly unknown outside Japan and people assume is trap fanart or something
I have seen them do the same to characters like Saturn and Cheren from pokemon, making binder fanart and shit

>Ikuhara's Sarazanmai notes
kek

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Looks like a powerful enema.

Those are just Ikuhara's old high school doodles.

maybe Sarazanmai was conceptualized since then

PV leaked. Keppi infiltrates the otter kingdom.
youtube.com/watch?v=78l10ffFZeY

I will become what Reo desires.

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They're cute if not for the crazy stuff posted about them

>to eat the broccoli you must become the broccoli

It means Toi and Enta are split from the same person.

They're animals. You'll find that almost any animal has repulsive disturbing shit about it if you bother to research them enough.

here's the motherfucking tea, dish

>start dreaming about the next episodes
>Mabu destroys the plates so Reo shoots him in retaliation
Man what the fuck

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>Mabu destroys the plates
Why would he do that?

Man, I really hope Mabu doesn't provoke a seriously unstable Reo into ruining his real last hope.

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But what if the otters are good guys?

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I don't know, you tell me.

Maybe, Mabu might try to give the plates back to Kazuki to save Enta, or perhaps Mabu might just try to get the plates away from Reo knowing that they're not going to work the way Reo thinks they are.

I really don't think that's going to be the case. At the very least, the one transforming into Reo and fucking Mabu probably isn't a well-meaning relationship therapist.

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Mabu is my cute wife

Take good care of him, Reo.

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Mabu's tears will save Reo, I can feel it.

So, what are the chances that Enta will stay permanently dead? Or is he 100% being resurrected?

>Reo makes Mabu cry and finally fucking realizes that Mabu is Mabu
Bring it on.

Honestly, it feels like 0%. I guess there's a chance, but it just doesn't seem like it would be part of a valuable narrative.

0% chance that he will stay dead, that is.

I'm honestly dubious that he's dead at all, but I guess we'll see. Ikuhara loves fucking with us with C-part cliffhangers that end up not being what they seem.

Reo beating up Mabu!

Reo beating Mabu's dick lovingly while also beating his prostate!

Reo comping home drunk and bending over Mabu while saying Mabu is an otter whore!

Mabu not even caring about the insults because he loves his insane husband and damn the dick feels good~

Reo demanding Mabu say his dick is bigger than the Otter's! Mabu lying and saying it is!

>Reo demanding Mabu say his dick is bigger than the Otter's! Mabu lying and saying it is!
That's real love.

Does Reo really need to hear it from Mabu to reassure his size?

I want to see Reo crying at Sara’s wedding

Nah, he's not the type that's insecure about dick size. He probably doesn't even recognize that he's hung. Reo has a pure heart.

>that pic
Is that what Reo sees when he looks at Mabu?

It's a visual representation of Mabu's experience. Mabu is focused only on trying to fix himself for Reo, even as the otters use and violate him.

user please it is not rape. Can't you see the noble intention of the otters?! Mabu BEGS for it. It is not the otter's fault Reo is an ingrate.

Who is sexier? Anthy, Sara, Princess-Himari or bear girls?

Slut Anthy is the hottest Ikuhara girl.

Anime Anthy is the best and sexiest Ikuhara girl.

I do. It's the only middle school ship I care about.

I want to believe but there's no way to confirm he's hung.

The otter boss is so loving and gentle to Mabu, even borrowing Reo's appearance to make him feel better! Mabu should marry him instead.

Go back to raping robots, science otticer.

USO janai!

Mabu belongs to the otters, deal with it, Reo. Now got back to work.

It's not rape if the robot seeks the Chief Otticer out and feels good during maintenance.

It's a tie between Anthy and Himari, both are sensual in their own way. Sara could be very sexy too, for now she's cute (and funny).

When is Sara going to get her focus episode and evolve into a form of godlike sexiness?

She is too busy fucking Keppi

I hope never or my dick would explode.

Maybe it will happen with an explicit sex scene then.

It will not. Sara is too good for an ass-eating frog.

Imagine. We see love hotel, then the room. We see bits of Sara getting naked in front of the bed, where we can see Keppi's silhouette. Several moments later we hear weird sounds with silhouette taking human form.

Reminder that aniki sucks cock to support his otouto

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He sells drugs.

>B-but Shouma is muh soulmate

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Sara eats cute magical girl ass, the show just doesn't focus on them.

His relationship with Ringo was too good, sorry Himari.

>Ikuhara brings lesbianism into Sarazanmai by having Sara suck on Enta's sister's ass

lol cucked little bitch

sucking cock is his side job Toi gets it for free

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I can only get so erect.

And all that with the Fabio Frizzi threatening sounds.
youtu.be/GIC9x5w0r7M

Source?

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I want mabu2 to dubcon reo

twitter.com/taelont3/status/1132253278454992897

Thanks!

Why does everyone in this anime want to suck Toi's dick

well people didn't think Lulu was gonna stay permaded and here we are

>everyone
It's only two people.

Not even one literally.

So, am I the only one who doesn't think that Toi and Kazuki are gay?

It's not even subjective. Their sexuality is unknown.

Shippers want to believe. I think Toi has shown a few hints. Kazuki is literally unknown.

I think they're heteroflexible

everyone in Ikuhara anime is bisexual until shown or stated otherwise

I don't think their sexuality is going to come out or even matter. I don't think Kazuki is even going to address Enta's romantic interest in him.

So Enta is male Shiori

He went full retard with jealousy, but he's not a malicious cunt with an inferiority complex.

He kind of has to at some point. Thise feelings are the main reason they're in this situation at current, and Kazuki ignoring them to just resolve the surface issue is not going to help anybody. It would be like if the boys overlooked Kazuki's self destructive habits for Haruka to just resolve the issue of fixing his legs; that wasn't the real problem, or at least it was only a part of the issue.

I think Kazuki needs to have a heart-to-heart with Enta about their friendship, but for some reason I don't think it's going to be necessary for Kazuki to respond to the romantic feelings unless Enta confesses to him properly in person.

Preview when?

soon

1h15

God, I wish Mabu was my wife.
twitter.com/kuubyo/status/1130956459225731074?s=19

cute

He has a final track on the OST, he’s coming back

Pure speculah but what if Enta is the prince/an otter? The fact that he doesn’t have matching hair/eyes and his are bright green really makes me thunkful. Also, I don’t think Sara has physically met him yet, has she?

>Also, I don’t think Sara has physically met him yet, has she?
they were all at the meet and greet event

I don't think anything hints at Enta being otherworldly. His eyes aren't the same shade of green as Reo/Mabu's or Keppi's, and humans can have green eyes. Green eyes aren't confirmed to mean anything either.

Yeah, I think it's more for the symbolism. Green eyes -> jealousy.

twitter.com/sarazanmai/status/1132813789743726593

IT'S HERE
twitter.com/sarazanmai/status/1132813789743726593?s=19

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If reo criticizes mabu's ningyoyaki he deserves a bad end

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He seemed shocked so maybe it's close to how it tasted.

surprised none of the spoilers mentiones the successful ningyoyaki

>come with me and i'll show you how to get easy money

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MABU

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merch backpack

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>Want some candy little boy?

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I think Reo realizing Mabu was real all along would make him downward spiral into madness faster because he won't be able to cope with all the time he ignored and insulted Mabu, feel even more undeserving and turn to denialism

>Enta gets nii-san's sucker and his balls
Toi c u c k e d

I want it.

I want Reo to break down and apologize.

youtube.com/watch?v=ryU4yj20ajY

kek, it's the same as his kappa shell design

I think after that Reo if he's as self-deprecating as we have assumed he is would do everything in his power for Mabu to hate him

yours for only 13,800 moon dollars

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Looks like a comedic episode if I hadn't read spoilers.

fuuuuck who's selling it? so expensive. great merch though

That's not typical behavior for a self-loathing person. It wouldn't make sense for him to want to do things that upset Mabu further if Mabu still loves him after all he's put him through. He would probably sooner kill himself than try to make Mabu hate him.

>enta's lollipop is now in chikai's mouth
i-indirect kiss

My love has returned.

Hot date again

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supergroupies

Super Groupies. Each boy has a bag and watch, plus some other stuff like tees and hats.

thanks, saw all the tweets about it but never clicked to see what they were actually selling. also wew @ it not being delivered until late September

It's so he would set himself to lose and be rejected because he doesn't feel deserving
Seen that narrative too with self-deprecating people

>Chikai and Enta shenanigans
Huh

Endgame

What is the lollipop and why is Chikai drawn to it so much?

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>Best couple in gay anime is the straight couple.
What did Ikuhara mean by this?

Ikuni played us all for fools. But at least it means Kazuki and Toi can have each other.

It's symbolic of how Chikai sucks on things that are put in his mouth.

>the lollipop in enta mouth

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>date overlapped with Reo and Mabu singing LIES LIES
I wouldn't be so sure

Oral fixation.

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So handsome~

Yeah, but what do you think led Chikai to Enta?

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age confirmed to be 25

he happened to see him? probably just opportunistic

Reo and Mabu going after Chikai?

Yes it seems.

Why is the flavour different all of a sudden?
>inb4 Chikai's crime is depleting the world of grape flavoured lollipop

he's probably a zombification target

Chikai desires his brother money.

Inb4 chikai's crime is that he wants to suck tooi's pp

What if Chikai's love for Tooi saves him from the incinerator but not the shredder?

I want to bite into Mabu's soft meaty thighs.

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>love
Chikai is impure. He's going to become a zombie and need to have his brother dive into his ass.

what was in that ningyoyaki?