Part 4 is the worst fucking part change my mind

>Liking part 4 unironically
>Calling anyone normalfag

You need to go back faggot.

cool beans

>Calling anyone normalfag
Boo hoo, did i struck a nerve? Kys trash

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>Josuke is the worst JoJo ever with no character development, no goals, and no progression
Jotaro

Lurk more newfag. You're obvious as fuck.
>The most complex and most subtle JoJo is bad because I do not understand him.
KYS faggot.

Alright, this is dull as fuck. Have fun pretending that this shitty safe part is good faggots.

>trying this hard
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I'll post dick pics if any of you faggots can prove Jojo part 4 is good or if you post dick pics of your own.

I also LOVE SUCKING DICKS
I'm a huge flaming faggot
Part 4 doesn't have homo stuff like part 5, that's why it's bad
If you disagree with me then you are a homophobe

This user is right
the only good think about part 4 is Kira, faggots try desperately to say otherwise
Josuke was a sitting duck most of the time, the final battle was a disgrace and Josuke actually ended up losing to Kira and Okuyasu had to save his ass, then Jotaro steals the spotlight lmao

>Worst setting
No. It's sort of a "It's a small world" take. They'll just find people hanging around, befriend them, and not always be with each other since they got other shit to do, but might just randomly encounter them.
>Josuke is the worst JoJo ever with no character development, no goals, and no progression
Part 4 is more about character interaction than character development as far as I can perceive. Doesn't mean that it doesn't/can't have it at all. I'd argue that you don't need development, goals or progression. It's all about how you execute the content. As long as it's interesting to watch. Now, of course, this isn't going to work for some people who always deconstruct whatever they watch. I suggest to stop doing that if you want to enjoy shows. There's nothing wrong with that. I myself deconstruct things when I want to laugh at things.
>Araki forgot the best idea of Josuke traveling back in time, saving himself and his mother
No one can know why it wasn't explored further. Even then, you can just disregard it completely and continue watching the show.
>The characters are fucking terrible. Okuyasu is a fucking silly idiot, Koichi is a whiny beta little faggot, Yukako is a psycho bitch with too much screentime, and fucking Shigechi who was only introduced to die
Those are subjective problems. I didn't have any issues with them. As for Shigechi, I didn't feel like he was only introduced to die- he had his own subplot.
>Most episodes are fucking filler shit and could be easily deleted or skipped
Again, it's focused on character interplay for most of the time, rather than the plot.

>Introducing a lot of interesting shit only to abandon them completely such as Time travel Josuke and Okuyasu's dad.
Okuyasu's dad's plot was pretty much completed rather than abandoned, yes it would've been interesting if Araki explored it further but he had different things to explore instead, which were potentially equally as interesting as the dad's plot could've been. You never know. Some people don't give a shit about their dad. They didn't mind his story ending where it did.
>The artstyle went from buff and fun to fucking soi and boring. Forever changed JoJo thanks to this fucking mistake of a part.
It's subjective whether you like this change or not. As for boring, again, subjective.
>No meaningful deads which was always a big part of JoJo and remained a big part after this shitty family-friendly part
The deaths did have meaning. They motivated the characters.
>The only good characters are Jotaro, Joseph, Rohan, and Kira
>The fights are fucking boring
Again, subjective.
>Muh peaceful loving town with golden hearts
Not a criticism.
>The fucking villain dies by a fucking ambulance are you fucking serious
Rohan's reasoning was a pretty good incentive and reasonable for the death to not be shit.
>Just the existence of that beta fucking shit Koichi. How extremely fucking beta do you need to be to run back to the bitch who tortured you and made you piss your own fucking pants just because she looked alright for once?
How much a character can rile someone up is subjective.

This is pretty much the problem with criticism of media. You have a set of standards that you judge a piece of media on, standards that are completely subjective. You might think that your standards are objective or collectively subjective, but even criticizers have different priorities. Some might value the plot more, some might value having a character interplay more. This effects the ratings a lot. Try watching it as a piece of media and judge it by how you felt and what aspect of it you liked the most rather than going in with the mindset of wanting to watch it just to scrutinize and compare it to your standards. You cannot objectively say that a show is bad. Shows have no intrinsic value at all. Value is pretty much subjective.

>Worst setting
Correct
>Josuke is the worst JoJo ever with no character development, no goals, and no progression
Correct
>Araki forgot the best idea of Josuke traveling back in time, saving himself and his mother
You are a retarded redditor

A big issue with part 4 is the spotty characterization.

Araki just writes for pure shock value instead of creating coherent personalities for the characters in the first third of the part. It's terrible and you can tell Araki cared even LESS about the story because it goes through about three or four cycles until he decides what he really wants to do. And Kira isn't even that good of a villain compared to the rest of them.

part 4 only exists beacuse shonen jump boss want a Japan adventure of the saga, they were tired of all the gaijins (who, surprise, are infinitely better)
and it shows: easily the most overrated and boring part, despite a memorable villain like David Bowie (the only good thing)

>anything that isn't my opinion is onions beta cuck numale trannies
back to Yea Forums with he.

The party against kira is the best part animated to date, and is half of the part. The first part you could say that it's boring, or redundant but even with that is leagues better than any shit like that in part 3 or even part 5.
There's an unfolding mistery which makes this part more enjoyable and makes you want to watch more, josuke, koichi, okuyasu, hayato, rohan and 4th part Jotaro are great, the stands are great, and the people they go against aren't neccessarely minion bad guys sended by the main villain which makes it absolutely repetitive and cheesy.
Of the animated parts, for now is the best.

sorry that your show is so shitty

>hurrr it's shit because it's shit and I don't like it

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>Worst setting
>Josuke is worst JoJo because he has no character development, goals, or progression
>Worst plot
Araki didn't blow his load by jumping directly into the conflict and decided to have a little fun. What's wrong with this?
Also, Jotaro is the worst Jojo. He is a stale protagonist whose performance was carried by the protagonist of the previous arc and stays that way every subsequent time he appears. He sucks so bad that he's literally put into a coma shortly after appearing in Part 6.
>Filler episodes that could "easily be deleted"
And you lose the character interactions/development that take place in them as a result, which is one of the things people liked Part 4 for doing.

>Araki forgot about the best idea of Josuke traveling back in time to save himself
>Made this point twice in your point for some reason
That was not even him, that was just some high school delinquent with goofy looking hair that saved them in a pinch. It's not time travel just because a character that looks similar to the ones in the present are in the past, especially said character from the present BASED HIS ENTIRE APPEARANCE off of the dude from the past.

>Okuyasu was a silly idiot, Koichi was a whiny bitch
Okuyasu being an idiot is not a bad thing in the slightest and Koichi's entire character arc is about how he ceases being a whiny bitch about midway through the story. You're complaining about a lack of character development in one character (A lot of Jojos actually don't develop a lot. See: Jotaro) but ignoring when another character does.

>Artstyle shift
Literally the only thing on this list I agree with you about.

>The fucking villain dies by a fucking ambulance are you fucking serious
So what? The protagonists beat him to a pulp and the scene is fine when you don't factor the anime butchering the timing

Kira and the flower cat were the only interesting things about part 4 for me.

part 4 is filler

Kira destroys all other villains and plotlines in any other part (haven't read Part 7 though so maybe that's an exception). He is what elevates Part 4 above all others.

>>The fucking villain dies by a fucking ambulance are you fucking serious

Yes, he does, because it fits perfectly with his character to have done so. Kira's whole goal was to be ignored by society and live a life where no one would bother him. It only fits that he would be killed by someone not noticing that he was there.

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based
part4fags are so obnoxious
the only good thing was fucking Jotaro, while Joseph was turned into a cheating bastard for no apparent reason and the ones who says "Kira did nothing wrong he wished only a very quiet life XD" are the worst cancer coming from ledditt

>That was not even him, that was just some high school delinquent with goofy looking hair that saved them in a pinch.
coping so hard

Kira ruined part 4 by being the most retarded villain in history.

I adore Part 4 and even I have say that the high school delinquent cop out was bullshit. It was obvious from the art that it was supposed to be Josuke time traveling (likely during the Bites the Dust arc). Really wish Araki didn't give up on that plot line.

headcanoning so hard

>ignore plot ghosts being canon, Kira is what ruined Part 4

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What the fuck? You just made that crap up.

>Part 4 is the worst fucking part change my mind.
part 6 exists

>lurk more
you couldn't be more of a fucking cancerous crossboarder seeing that you're unironically namefagging and using "soi" as an insult on Yea Forums. do fuck off back to and never come back.

once part 8 is over people will rightfuly label it the worst part

The "time-travelling Josuke" theory would undermine one of Part 4's themes, that being "the moral strength found in ordinary people". That Josuke's saviour was just "some guy" is important to the story.

true, can't change what's right

Part 4 is pretty mediocere honestly. The local is static and pretty uninteresting, the cast is too big and most of them are underdevelopt. Kira basically saves it. Worst part is a bit much though, 6,1 & 8 still exist

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>Koichi is a whiny beta little faggot
I liked Koichi in the manga, but the anime made him so irritating to listen to, always fucking screeching and explaining something obvious in that way Japan always does.

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lmao you animeonly nigger, just wait until they adapt the shitheap that is stone ocean.
btw, 4 > 5 > the rest > 6

Chad Guanglai Kangyi vs virgin Hirose Koichi

>Rohan's reasoning was a pretty good incentive and reasonable for the death to not be shit.
That's what made it horrible.
>he couldn't be punished in court, so it's better this way
I'm sorry, didn't Jotaro just travel the world beating the shit out of, and on occasion killing various henchmen of DIO. I'm sure he'd have no problem killing Kira.

my real problem with this part is how it estabilishes locations and characters and then never takes advantage of them. I guess part 8 is the fixed version

Part 4 is mediocre all around with or without Kira, but it surely didn't help for the main villain to be so uncharismatic and phoned in. The story with the new family was a pretty neat idea but just that, and it happened far too soon. We should have gotten to know Kira better before diving into this plot line. Hayato being hyper intelligent also made Kira look like a joke and Shinobu is a little TOO one-note, even for JoJo standards.

I wish Part 4 took full advantage of its setting to breathe life into the characters, but for the most part they're more like funny caricatures than human beings. I fucking love Josuke, though. He was well done.

>>Araki forgot the best idea of Josuke traveling back in time, saving himself and his mother
you're retarded, fucking kill yourself. I didn't even bother reading the rest of your post because only a worthless subhuman could believe that point

Part 4 is my fave part, but really, how can you argue against that? What was that fucking flashback about then?

>Rohan asks why Josuke freaks out so badly over his hair
>cue backstory
It's not that hard to understand m8

turning Josuke's backstory into a self-sustaining time loop ruins his entire character. The reason he gained Crazy Diamond as a stand ability was specifically because he only lived to get a stand because he and his mother were the beneficiary of a random act of kindness that saved his life. Because he was saved by some random guy putting his own life in danger to help him, he was inspired to be a caring person and gained the ability to help other people no matter how dire the situation was. Josuke was willing to defend Morioh because the Golden Heart of Morioh is the entire reason he's alive

>Part 4 is a slice of life arc in the jojo universe
>OP doesn't like slice of life
If my memory serves my right Araki said part 4 is more focused in the day to day of a town with stand users, with the chef and the beauty lady, remember that non-stand users can't see stands. Get over'it OP, enjoy the rest of the show.

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So you're saying that Josuke was saved by a total stranger, who just happened to pass his mom's car in the middle of fucking nowhere, at night, having the same body type as Josuke, and bleeding for some reason. Did I understand that right?

him having the same body type and uniform as Josuke is a product of Koichi's imagination, and everything else is exactly right. Josuke's life got saved by a good hearted man who was in the wrong place at the right time, so that's what he grew up to be, and that's what his stand embodies