Black Clover

Spoilers are out!
Chapter begins
Yami and Charla are hiding in a black ball
Charla is healing his arm
Cuts back to Wevil and co
Asta is geeking out over Lumiere
Asta notices Secre
Lumiere takes Secre to Licht
Secre fixes Licht
They go to Asta and co
Licht hugs Patri and Patri begins to cry
Lumiere and Licht vs Wevil
Lumiere throws a light sword at Wevil, Wevil dodges, Licht appears behind Wevil absorbs the sword, and they both hit him.
Lumiere stabs Wevil
Wevil uses a spell
Takes off Lumiere's arm with a pitchfork
Wevil is about to attack again
Yuno throws Asta at Wevil to block the attack
Wevil is pissed
Licht and Secre are surprised
Chapter ends

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holy sh1t the devil is pissed off

Like he can do anything, Asta's there now

ikr but he also can create organic matter

He can heal anti magic damage and make non magic attacks

The good thing is that Licht, Patri, and Lumiere can kamikaze Wevil, giving Asta the opening he needs to fuck Wevil up once and for all.

this nigga is literally a devil, he got a pitchfork and shit.

Charla can heal?

Sure but lets see how well that works out.

>Yami and Charla are hiding in a black ball
Do they get out before the end of the fight and help fight wevil, or does someone catch them making out when the fight is over.

If I know anything about Yami, he might just appear at the end to do the final blow and say "all me",

We might find out that Charla's been giving Yami the blowing

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You know you've hit a low point in life when there's a tramp stamp on your forehead.

BASUDO AND EPICPILLED

That was supposed to be his hug

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>only 1 arm
dont want to give that faggot any ideas

>plants and now a trident
Is he a fucking farmer?

>sausages and a fork
dude is a chef

Reminder that Rhya was the one who transformed into lumiere.
He’s going to betray the group.

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>legs
Yes

My noll is too cute.

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Cute

I love her more than you do.

Licht needs to train asta.

Post your noll folder

Sorry user, I'm currently using a different computer and not mine so I can't post my Noelles.

>Not having a USB drive of all your nolls on you at all times.
Pssshh

Will Tabata be able to keep up the hype in the coming arcs?

Sure

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Just imagine what kind of crazy shit will go down in the Diamond Kingdom saga.

Lol not our magic stone king

>Trying to stand out
At least they will be reincarnated as elves.

They were chosen as royal knights so hey good on em

I still love Noelle.

I should probably wait for a clean scan but this is cool
Norse stave used protect the warrior so they may prevail in battle

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hard reach

It doesnt really look like that.

>Licht is back at 100% (gimped though without his own grimoire)
>FWK is back
This demon stands no chance

Please.

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>demon

>Yuno throws Asta at Wevil to block the attack

I love how Asta can be used as a human shield.

10000:1 odds on that one

Asta is literally just a handle for his swords so that people with magic can use anti-magic

So I'm lost who is in Asta's Grimmoire if not corrupted Licht?

Anti-magic Devil is in Asta's grimiore

So to stop the Devil from getting a Grimmoire Licht summoned a devil and gave him the grimmoire

An anti magic devil.

Common misconception. The grimoire is not Lichts but its understandable you would believe that

No licht turned his body into a demon.

>For 500 years I have defied natural order and continued to protect Lichts Grimmoire

Yet to be explained, just gotta wait it out

Where in that quote does it say it was given to Asta?

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We dont have all of the facts yet, but it seems to be that as soon as it became a 5-leaf, the anti-magic devil was added to it. After that Licht used the magic stones to summon the demon king

We don't know if the grimoire belongs to Asta, but Licht did say that it was no longer his grimoire. I forget the page, but we've already had that discussion

Doesn't say it was given to Asta
Could just be a similar grimoire

>the moment it became a 5 leaf
That's the worst conclusion considering sekre out right says theres a many year gap where she was blacked out and probably has no clue what happened in that time.
Also wevil clearly knows theres a devil in what is now astas grimoire and makes not of it.
So clearly that was not the case with the grimoire it turned into A 5 leaf as wevil would have noticed.

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>could just be a similar grimoire
What is this reach?
Do you have a shitty head canon that's endanger or something?

its confirmed Licht's old grimoire, he even uses asta's swords.

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>no longer his grimoire

Do you fucking English?

Sounds like you are projecting if you are that insecure of a possible twin grimoire or something

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Demon, devil, same shit.

Lol no

>explained in the 1st chapter

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>Licht's old grimoire
> Do you fucking English?
yes "old grimoire" as in it used to belong to him and now no longer does.
learn to read esl-kun

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(continued)
Wevil even states it before ever seeing Asta's grimiore

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That's not an explanation that's a saying.
Wevil as a devil NEVER noticed a devil in the flash back in the past.
But noticed immediately in current time.
Like it or not something happened.

>That's not an explanation that's a saying.
thats the narrator saying it as a statement of fact, no character at this point has ever even heard of demons.
>Wevil as a devil NEVER noticed a devil in the flash back in the past.
But noticed immediately in current time.
see

Wtf is going on, is this bait?

jimbo's back

How come wevil said shit about amvil in the flash back? But cant stop mentioning his ass now?

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Yeah it's kinda weird

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Bad writing

Rent free

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This webm is the best.

It's a fantastic reaction image

>ywn be as happy as Bell is in that moment

>be born amazing
>become even more amazing from an hour of training and fighting 1 D tier villain
>get a fight scene that didn't have a $10 budget
>go home and have the fairy suck my dick

Nothin personal Asta

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Naw, Yuno works his ass off. Julius notes his dedication (and good taste in sex faeries.).

Now I can ship Licht and Lily with no problems?

>t. retard

Based

Fire spirit can become bigger. There is still a chance for her.

The big titty Bell dream is real

IRL CloverCHAD

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>Chad
Seem like virgin

i don't get cosplay. like why do the clothes look so shitty and fake even though you could find real clothes that look like asta's outfit besides the cape/headband

user shes already been growing.
Just not like the fire spirt.

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This. One of the best things about the Asta/Yuno rivalry is that neither of them is 'just automatically great at everything', they both have to take it to the triarii to get better and one-up each other. Reminds me of Ranma/Ryoga.

But 4 leaf = luck

Luck is a person in this show, not a magic win card.

it's funny how NO ONE is at 100% except for Wevil, which allows him to stomp everyone

Big Bad timed his entrance well. Everyone was busy kicking each other's asses.

Hope FWK and Nero stay after this saga end

Nero was ways here and will probably remain

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its out

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lewd first page

10/10 job manipulating and killing humans

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for some unknown reason, dark magic doesn't get sucked up by Wevils magic.

>no Licht/Lumiere hug
wtf?

Well we learned his magic works on it like 3 chapters ago so somethings up.

Yuno was pretty cute trying to maintain his composure

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Anti-magic nullifies magic. This works at a basic level.

>must not fanboy must not fanboy must not fanboy Asta will see

>anti magic
We talking yami here bro. Keep up

FWK fanboy spotted lmao

Wevil's magic is just slowly breaking down the black magic. It doesn't have to happen instantly.

So I assume the following will happen
>Litch gives Asta the sword he’s using when this is over
>The elves get new bodies made via the recreation cats and they leave their human hosts
>They all get there own Grimiore

>asta
>you are a fucking terrorist and your Turning face now? Stip being a bitch and be a terrorist till the end!
>licht
>you did some absolutely terrible and unforgivable shit....but you did it well.
What's the message tabata is trying to relay here.

Are you sure it seem like human forgot elves destroy clover kingdom

That perspective is 10/10ths of the truth?

It doesn't matter what you doing if get brainwashing by big bad

Wait, aren't there children reading this magazine?

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It all devil fault

ngl I think I like Charla more than Charlotte

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Love this hope elves stay

That everyone is both in the wrong and in the right at the same time. Its supposed to question the moral ambiguity of their actions. Not everyone is in the wrong as they have a reason for the actions they take.

There was no brainwashing dumbass.

Humans still massacred the elves for magic power.
The elves attacking and getting revenge is literally 100% justified.

>responding
Cute

>speedreading
Asta told him to see through with his actions to the very last moment even if they weren't what he wanted and was tricked go and try to fix it

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>Charla riding the Yami
How will Charlotte feel about this, bros?

> a Chinese man killed me and my family.
>ima kill all Chinese people
Uh huh

Humans were manipulated by devil demons to kill the elves
I mean, royals are still shit, but they were manipulated at some time

What he actually says here is something more like "You worked really hard and hanged un there"

>literally 100% justified.
Justified your ass and your ancestor ass

I interpreted it as dont let that black thing take your spot light.

it's more like the chinese unified (apparently) to murder your family

Well, the Nobles did. I don't blame the elves for their reaction, but they're attacking unrelated people. Can't wait for Asta to Anti-magic them back to hell.

What's her endgame?

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>chinese unified
Only nobles user

Nice

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Death

>Mass genocide isn’t that bad, they were tricked into doing it!
No. Humans deserve to have what they did done to them. Kill ass humans in the Clover kingdom.

many blessings to you.

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Heh

>getting revenge is literally 100% justified
Can wait african get their revenge

Humanity has done literally nothing wrong. We need a second elf genocide because they disrespected nobility. Then we can also kill that filthy fucking half breed dwarf. After the war is finally over we can enslave the peasants and put them in their place of expendable assets that only exists to serve nobility. I would kill thousands of peasant slaves if it meant we had more statues of our glorious leader everywhere

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kek

Based

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>Humans deserve to have what they did done to them
Your ancestor human =/= your right now

Based

>This
my ancestor are bad but not me

How do you get this amped up on human hate when you knew the fwk didnt betray you?

The same way I get amped up on chink hate when I've never even spoken to a chinese person

Rhya has autism.

Nobles still genocide elves

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Royals are disgusting trash.

They're justified in being angry as fuck at being genocided, but not in attacking innocent people who didn't do it 500 years later.
Manipulated my ass. He told them how to seize elf power by murdering the elves and they did it. You're not really being manipulated it they were upfront about what you'd get and you got what you wanted. If Wevil hadn't been sealed, I'm sure he would have turned on the royals, but since he was, they got everything they wanted from his intel at no cost to them.

>no homo
>but I was hoping for homo....

Patri did the wrong things for the right reasons.
Licht did the right things for the wrong reasons.

Because they did? Humans killed every elf. Just because the demon got them do does NOT absolve them of this sin.

A devil manipulates with temptations and desire.
Humans desire for power
Elves desire for revenge.

By waking up on the wrong side of the bed, with all the naps he takes,it was bound to happen.

imagine the humans were niggers and they killed you family and friends at your wedding

And the sin of the father is not the sin of the son

Descendants of the nobles who did the crime must pay for the sins if their ancestors

Pretty sure that was more likely with white people to do yo blacks.

>Black
You mean white caucasian killing aboriginal people for land

>Muh reparations
based retard

White guilt

Fuck Humans every other race in the series need to join together and get rid of them.

>T-the family shouldn’t have to pay back what they stole or face any consequences for killing of an entire sentient race
Based retard.

>SJWs crawling out of the woodwork to ruin another fandom.
Its like clockwork, speaking of when will we get Clockwork magic, I want to see some Ancient Gear Golem styled wizards.

Cope communist

>speaking of when will we get Clockwork magic
I'm sure Morris has a child slave for that.

>Ancient Gear Golem styled wizards.
Calm down Dr Crowler

Based on how Wevil talks about Amvil, I think they’re both in on the plot.

Are we ever going back to the other fights? I want to see what happens with the Apostles.

Nope

hopefully we get some humunculi/automata magic at some point.
Morris is probably the best chance since he's already got a lot of human experimentation.

What did wevil mean by Licht and Lumiere taking inspiration from "THAT world"

Since there is a demon world, is he referring to Heaven? :0 Does this mean that they're angels?

I didn’t know wanting villains to face consequences for there actions was a SJW view

I don't see the point. Everyone else noped the fuck out after seeing the sausages.

>I want to see some Ancient Gear Golem styled wizards.
Agreed, wanna see some magitek out here. The lines on Licht's chest when Sekre was unsealing him give me hope.

Diamond is going to be fucking hype, I am actually thinking one of the Bulls getting kidnapped by Morris to be experimented on could work as good initiative for the crew attacking Diamond.
That's not, but having their kids who took no part in said villainous actions pay for their crimes is text book SJW hodgepodge.

Valtos probably used to want the same thing from Patri.

There magic quantity is ill gotten. They should have it stripped and returned to the elves. They can go back to being weak with low mana reserves.

>I am actually thinking one of the Bulls getting kidnapped by Morris to be experimented on could work as good initiative for the crew attacking Diamond
I can see Morris going after Charmy to try and revive the dwarf race.

>to try and revive the dwarf race.
Someone sexing Charmy that's not Yuno?

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Smoking in that space.

>Nothin personal Asta

Yuno could only get hard for Asta in the first place

>tall-ass musclebound Ladros x chibi dwarf mode Charmy
Oh yes
Imagine the offspring's magic!

Wouldn't it just be Charmy's cotton magic. Would the ability Ladros got during the experiment be able to be passed down?

First, you're a retard.
Now onto your arguments, the stolen magic wasn't passed down since the Royals and the Elves all died speedreader.
Humans already had high mana reserves that were almost equal to the Elves, the leader of the Elves - Licht and FWK were equals speedreader.
Finally the Elves are half dead and its been 500 years they no long hold any claim to any magic, that'd be like me going to Ireland and demanding land and money because some of my ancestors 300 where kicked out and enslaved, they don't deserve shit,
And to cap it off I'm going to call you a moron again because your ignorance is palpable.
Charmy could work, or I was thinking maybe Henry since he is a really rare case, or even Magna because he really needs a powerup.

Since the Royals who stole the magic and the Elves all died.
Let me clarify it so it doesn't look like I'm saying all the Royals in the kingdom died.

I think Charmy's food magic is much more compatible with Ladros's absorbing and shitting out magic power than her Cotton magic. Although why not go ahead and make the next generation of hybrids have three elements to really fuck up that gene pool.

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>Now onto your arguments, the stolen magic wasn't passed down since the Royals and the Elves all died speedreader.
Not that user but are you saying Royals died during the massacre.
>Humans already had high mana reserves that were almost equal to the Elves, the leader of the Elves - Licht and FWK were equals speedreader.
Not they didn't and FWK was an exception

Yes Wevil betrayed the Royals after they stole the Elves magic.
They weren't equals but they were close, the FWK was the strongest of them all but no where did it state he was the only one who wouldn't get steamrolled by a light breeze.

>Yes Wevil betrayed the Royals after they stole the Elves magic.
When did this happen,when would he have the time, how would he be able to that without a body?
>They weren't equals but they were close, the FWK was the strongest of them all but no where did it state he was the only one who wouldn't get steamrolled by a light breeze.
Idk about this

And Alekdora from William. There's something about Licht's body that attracts all forms of homolust.

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...

Not him but tetia also had crazy magic.
All it would take his keeping that blood line alive with the father or mother to produce powerful offspring

Did you skip the part where his gas bubble form controlled the Minister and trapped the FWK, or how it was said/Secre said he had controlled another Royal and transformed into the FWK to steal the Magic Items?
This

Would it change anything for you if Asta was revealed to be a royal of another country?
To me it wouldn't, because he's still born without any magic.

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>Did you skip the part where his gas bubble form controlled the Minister and trapped the FWK
I remember this part
>how it was said/Secre said he had controlled another Royal and transformed into the FWK to steal the Magic Items?
Can you post the panel of this.
I mean it's a possibility but they did say Tetia had "crazy magic". All we know from her is that she's a wind user.

Ehh I still like the idea that he's just straight up Normal, no heritages, no special bloodlines, just a normal dude utilizing what he can to slowly go reach the top.

the most magical thing about this image is that I am not even mad it reads left to right.

Its not as direct as I remembered but its still there.

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>my eyes
wouldn't it be my ears

All that could mean is that Secre went to room with the magical tool, thought it was suspicious they were gone, and the only other person who could've took it was the prince.

Also what does this have to do with your point here ? At what point was it showed that Wevil "betrayed" the royals?

"Then it really wasn't you prince"
Insinuating she saw "him"
Also I had originally meant to use it as a indicator of the chapter I was speaking of but spaced out halfway when writing and it became more then a set piece for my statement.

If you can steal magic then why aren't normalfags rounding shit-tier mages and stealing their magic little by little until they become OP?

So hows it all work.
>Licht is might mage with a sword fetish
>Gets demon'd
>Asta gets it 500 years later
>it's now anti-magic themed with swords (swords that somehow kept existing isolated, but were somehow reincorporated)
>there's a demon in it as well

Are we to assume the bird was just waiting for an opportune time to drop the book on Asta (I assume the reason Asta/Yuno came as a pair gifted with the stone is part of birds long game or something).

Plot hole or devil destroy it

Magic tools are stupid expensive? Or it's a crime?

Cause it would probably take lots of effort, time and they would most likely get caught. Or maybe most people just don't know you can do that.

Only royal have it

No.

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Bell wont like this

>that fanart is literally canon now
Nice

ASTA CANNON!

Lumiere's probably gonna bite it. Sekre will probably stick around.

All they need is to remove their pants that is a boundary to their procreation

which one user, i would like to know for scientific purposes

The humans were manipulated just like Patri.

He probably talking about this one

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Bell can suck my hairy balls with her tiny little tongue.

Somehow Zora had found dozens of corrupt magic knights that wouldn't hesitate to kill peasants but
humans are the good guys?

Elf Char is so much better than regular Char holy shit.

>but
> humans are the good guys?
Eh? No. How did you get to that conclusion?
Wevil just dipped on their greed, but we can see from Lumi's flashback that jealous people will be petty anyway.

Licht's magic is sword magic, drawn from his grimoire. When Wevil cast him into despair, his grimoire became a Grimoire of Despair, changing its nature, and birthing a new demon, Amvil. Asta later encountered Amvil and stole his power, gaining his black form. At the same time Licht became a Dark Elf due to his despair and his magic raged out of control, turning him into the giant demon that Lumiere and Sekre defeated 500 years ago.

I just noticed that his arm was cut off.

Do you think it's permanently detached or can someone put it back on?
Also would he be bleeding or is he just a statue that can move?

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He's an animated statue, possessed by his soul and powered by the magic stones. No blood.

His body is stone.

When is he gonna use his tail to impale people?

Kek

You just know Sekre is just like Yuno, giddy to be seeing someone but trying hard to keep it in.

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Such a good chapter. I wonder what will happen to Licht now, it surely is pretty good to have him back. I'm surprised they couldn't HK the little demon. Seeing a little shit like Asta join that giant's fight was dope. It's like that first fight in the cave, Yami vs Patri, seeing Asta join and being able to help was pretty good.

She was pretty cute this chapter too. I hope we can have more birdie.

A cute.

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That's a cute noll

You're not a true Noellefag.

Asta ist literally the only one who can block the demons powers. This is literally turning into a Deus ex machina capeshit shounen. Bad writing in its fullest

There already was a series about magic golems, but you nerds didn't support it and it got cancelled

It was a joke bro...

Yami is litterally blocking the same powers with his magic as we speak.
In the same fucking chapter.

>Yami using his magic to protect himself and Charla at the beggining of the chapter.
Retard

>Deus Ex Machina
>something that was introduced literally in chapter 1

Who?

>Not hitting the gym
WRONG.
Someone post that fit like the toonz dude.

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Best boys

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Fuck

Probably unlikely at this point but it's still possible. Nozel mentioned that he wanted to go meet up with the Vermilions so I guess he could stumble upon something weird going on over there. There's still the unknown lone presence in one of the lower rooms of the Shadow Palace and Gueldre and Revchi should be sneaking around as well.

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>one of the Bulls getting kidnapped by Morris to be experimented on could work as good initiative for the crew attacking Diamond
There's no need for that considering Asta already promised to help Mars if he was ever in trouble and we all know Mars is too incompetent to actually control the king.

>revive the dwarf race
Are the dwarfs even doing that poorly in the first place? Charmy is in her 20s so there must have been at least 1 dwarf still alive very recently. The elves already play the role of the extinct ancient superhumans so I rather than repeating the same thing I think Tabata would be more likely to introduce them as a counterpart to the elves. Instead of being killed by humans like the elves were the dwarfs were smart enough to go into hiding preemptively and built their one cities underground somewhere so they could live in peace. Charmy would then be the daughter of a dwarf that wandered off or who was captured by humans but escaped.

Did you guys speedread the arc where mudman and snowboy were collecting mana from the children? The tools to drain mana still exist or at the very least Sally knows how to build them.

Hope Charlotte will keep the healing spell even though her curse will return.

Probably wont.
She needs to break her limits first

Is she sitting on his dick?

You're welcome

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Do you think she could encounter the one who cursed her in the future?

Hah

Thanks bro, you made it perfect.

I mean she could.
But I dont think she needs too.
Pretty sure confessing will do the trick.
Bit even then we still technically have witch queens curse breaking cocoon

True, but I think asking the Witch queen would be too easy. She needs to learn to be more honest about her feelings anyways, so a confession would be better in my opinion.

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>shes a tsun too
I hate that I'm growing attached to charla.
I hate this.

too fucking lewd

I hope Asta doesnt defeat the devil.Tabata has been doing great in this arc so far

Why is the interaction between Yami and Charlotte always so lewd, even when Charlotte isn't awake?

The devil probably ain't dying this arc anyway.
Also asta landing a finishing blow doesnt make it his kill.

Asta and Yami will be the key to defeating Wevil.

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why do licht and patri look so much alike this keeps fucking with my understanding of what's going on

They have different face tattoos you attentionlet
Also one has a different fuckong magic.

>A devil named Wevil
BRAVO

>why do licht and patri look so much alike
Their look seem Different to me
Recognizable different mark.
Parti is shorter.
Licht is always sad (until this ch) .

That's not his name.
It's a fan name to identify him. Along side the anti magic devil we call amvil

>Charla ahegaoing instead of Yami
One job.

Wait, that's still Charla? The pointed ears and face marks are gone..

I want to fill Sekre with my semen!

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I guess the user who edited the pic removed them.

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As she looks at me with those oppressive soul-piercing eyes

I'm looking for a new manga to read is this worth it or nah

Sure

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I laughed at Yuno telling Asta to keep it together when Lumiere showed up but having his heart beating loudly. Fanboying pretty hard there, Yuno.

>Black Clover 20: *238169
Awesome, it's the volume closest to volumes 15 and 16 in terms of sales.

I wonder if the rumor about episode 91 and 92 having sakuga is true.

I question oricons credibility.
Volume 19 was at 7 mill but at the release of volume 20 we hit the 8 mill sales mile stone
So something's up.

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I guess we'll never know. But those are supposed to be the official numbers. I find it difficult to think we went from 7 million to 8 million in the spam of a volume.

It did though so once again something is up.

The report of it going to 8 mill from last volume is official too.
See the issue?

Here's the thread. You anons tell me I really don't get how Oricon shows one thing and there's also this report too:
desuarchive.org/a/thread/186698534/#186698910

wth you talking about, Yuno is talented as hell. Why do you think the wind spirit chose him so damn early on? Dual casting on one of his first missions? Mana zone so early on for someone with his time of service?

Both yuno and asta are exceptionally talented.
Asta learned ki very fast.

2 of the posts you replied to there are bait from Jeremy. But I did say either it was a crime or super expensive. Baro and Neige are criminals.

I have no idea why theres a inconsistentcy. That's why I'm doubting oricons reliability.
Also that thread is terrible

Fair point, and I found Ki to be kind of a BS thing. I guess power-ups are needed at one point, oh well. But Asta still has to do a lot of extra effort, a lot more than yuno

It could just be backlog sales during the 3 months between volumes or it could even take into account overseas releases. Backlog sales are also a large part of the reason why BC almost reached the top 10 last year and why it won't be as easy to make it this year as that user speculated, but I guess the anime reaching the elf arc and the manga concluding its first big saga might boost sales. Tokyo Ghoul ending may not even matter since Kimetsu is getting huge backlog sales due to the anime.

Well yeah
They are both talented hardworkers.
But one is still handicapped. So he obviously needs to work harder.

Has Wevil said anything about Amvil?

Thing is that oricon didnt record and major boost in backlog sales.

Its 8 mill Japanese sales so overseas sales is definitely not the case.

No one here cares about the top ten.
Its irrelevant discussion.
Infact all this toc tier talk sucks

It's in print so the 1 million increase was the other volumes getting new reprints.

Volume 20s cover said sales

Does Oricon have a record of the total lifetime sales of manga volumes? I've only ever seen the weekly top 50 figures which wouldn't show backlog sales if they weren't high enough to rank. In this case for the series to get 1 million sales over 3 months means volume 20 sells roughly 200k total and then the other volumes sell an average of 800k/19 = 42k over the volume release gap which is roughly 3 months which means 42k/12 = 3500 sales per volume per week. It could be even lower than that if vol 19 got us up to 7.15 million sales and vol 20 to 8.00 which would require only like 2800 sales per volume per week.

It's not about that, anons are just trying to understand how we went from 7 million (volume 19) to 8 million (voluem 20) in the spam of a single volume becuase Oricon says that volume 20 sold 239,000 copies.

Oricon records backlog stuff all the time.

It got to 8 mill at volume 20s release.
So volume 20 is not counted.
So it would have to be volume 19s numbers.
And no I'm not ready trying to understand. All I said is that I question its credibility.
I dont actually care enough.

>Ancient Gear Golem

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I want to be thrown by noll

Yes, but the question is can you look up a certain volume and see how much it has sold overall or do you have to piece that together by looking at its weekly sales and summing it up? I find it hard to believe the volumes would be selling 4 or 5 times the amount that Oricon is reporting since that's a massive error for them to make, so I think the explanation can most likely be found elsewhere. I think backlog sales in increments too small to register on any top lists makes the most sense, since those would escape Oricon's notice but would still be seen by Jump.

Kino

How can you guys even say this series is good when it doesn't even sell well?

I think it ranks to 500 but only shows the top 50-100's sales so not enough to show BC.
The reason I assume the increase happened is because ep 63 came out around the time vol 19 came out so the 3 month period got the boost which shows in the overall sales.

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Volume 19 woulda had to sell at least 400k+ for the math of 3500k a week for other volumes to make sense.
And that would have earned it at least more than just a months work of records aka 4 weeks

And there he is.
I knew ToC metashit would attract your ass.

I knew you would have no argument to that

Gintama is shit its manga sells really bad.

Although some dwarf tribe most likely exists somewhere (unless Charmy is a test tube baby from a fossilized cum of an ancient dwarf)as far as the humans knowlege is concerned think Dwarfs went extinct long ago like elves.
Curious enough Charmy is literally the only Bull who has her origin place in the databook omitted. She is most likely from another country.

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Add his name on to Patri's face.

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This one made me laugh hard holy shit.

How can you say air is good when it sells like shit?

Some series are bad but they sell well so the opposite must also be true.

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Isn't MHA declining? The latest volume sold less than usual.

Yeah I think that makes the most sense.

I literally just did the math for you. 19 volumes * 3500 sales per week for each volume = 66.5k total sales per week for all volumes. Takes about 3 months for the next volume to come out which is 66.5k * 12 = 800k. Add to that 200k of either vol 19 or 20 sales depending on when the announcements happened and you've got 1 million sales.

Nice argument

Charmy is from the hidden dwarf village. Her aim is to become the dwakage. Habeeb it.

The backlog was definitely less than that.
As 19 in 3 months most likely hit 350+ with H is the usual

That would mean every other series in the top 100 should be selling 1 mil in 3 mo.

>metashit
Fucking gross. Go back to the ToC threads with that cancer.

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>Add to that 200k of either vol 19 or 20 sales depending on when the announcements happened
Vol 19. Vol 20 sales aren't counted in the sales/print announcement.
That also means 19 has around 400k sales give or take then, which doesn't make sense because the additional 200k didn't show up in Oricon.

Most of them aren't in the top 100 for long let alone 3 months.
BC kept a steady pace at around 3-5K a week for vol 1-18.

I really wonder where Amvil fits into all this. Was he born from the 5 leaf clover grimoire when Wevil couldn't get it? Or is Amvil another devil that just happened to somehow get sealed in the grimoire?

I mean, this is obviously just the end of the first saga of the series so there'll be plenty of time to explain Amvil later. I just wanna know sooner than later.

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You don't think that won't show up in Oricon? Don't they have weekly/monthly sales? 12k-20k per month should be in their monthly list or so.

I doubt revealing where Amvil comes from would be a good idea right now.

>where does he fit in on all this
Perhaps he doesnt and is relevant to a completely other plot point.

There's a plot point where Sekre is out before waking up as a bird. That might get explored in the future but not now. Not before she's bonded with the other Bulls.

Maybe he's a devil using Wevil's plan for his own plan.

>Bonded with the other bulls
Do you really think Sekre is gonna survive this arc?
I'm not sure who all will make it through this arc honestly.
Obviously Magic Emperor has to go. Licht too cause he's just too much to let loose.
Not sure if Patri will live or if he'll give his body back. Actually kinda wonder if Patri were to live if Valtos would wanna join him again.

Before Wevil kicked things into overdrive, I really just through all we'd be getting out of this would be Sally joining the Black Bulls once things were done. But now I don't know how many may end up joining them.

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Sekre has the secret spot of invicibility.
As she also plays the dual role of mascot.

Why would she die? She still has to watch Asta's grimoire.

Licht has a new body no reason for him to go, lumiere will be gone maybe sealed again.
The elves will all go with sally who rpomises to make them new bodies and return the original hosts.
Valtos will sacrifice himself to save licht (patri), rades will fuck off to somewhere else and come back when he's needed.

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I could see Licht living, and just sitting on the sidelines cuz he has no grimoire.
Patri is definitely dead, and william will return
The rest of the elves will get new bodies after sally, rades, and valtos join BB

Every single elf is gone after this arc. Wicked heart is too much of a threat and the humans need to get their bodies back
>but cloning
Probably takes a lot of rare resources and Sally won't go through the effort for the people that betrayed and killed her

>Do you really think Sekre is gonna survive this arc?
Yes, but she might lose access to her human body. At the very least Nero is going to stick around.
>Obviously Magic Emperor has to go
Agreed.
>Licht too cause he's just too much to let loose.
Licht will live. He's Yuno's dad so there's some development to be had there and he's also one of the few elves who are not occupying human bodies which need to be returned. Licht, Rhya, Fana, Vetto, Yuno and potentially Ronne depending on what his situation is are the only elves who are going to survive this arc unless Tabata somehow bullshits up dozens of new bodies for the elves even though the 3 that were created took months to prepare. It's taken too much preparation to resurrect Licht and heal his potato status for him to just instantly die again.
>Not sure if Patri will live or if he'll give his body back
Patri already implied he would die due to getting BLACKED. William's curse is still a mystery so he needs his body back anyway.

Only sally will join

>people predicted that Rades would dig up Julius' corpse and turn him into a zombie
>he's actually going to zombify Lumiere
Or perhaps he's going to do both. He's going to catch all the magic emperors and become the magic emperor master.

You don't need the Grimoire for sword magic

Licht will be teaching Asta if he survives.

Pretty easy to predict things in this show since the writers just copy everything from other anime. Of course he will get those two and two more hokage so he can have 4 just like orochimaru

The wicked heart can be removed, so they just need new bodies
>Probably takes a lot of rare resources and Sally won't go through the effort for the people that betrayed and killed her
Sally already made atleast 3 on an underground terrorist budget, so its pretty feasable if she has the kingdoms support
Only question is if the king will want to execute all the elves /their human counter parts

Teaching him what?
Most of the swords behave pretty differently when in anti magic state.
And sword magic requires ,well magic.

but you need the swords, and I cant see asta just giving up any of his swords

Demon Dweller usage.

Rent free

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We get it. You like Copy clover. No need to be so ashamed of yourself

>The wicked heart can be removed
Why do you think this? Droite implied it couldn't.
The demon ruin sword had the same powers as when Licht was using it

The swords function exactly the same besides when used as a cutting edge. Licht can further improve his technique along with having knowledge of all of his swords.

Even there they seem to behave differently.
Licht used to repel enemy projectile magic
But asta got some sorts friendship magic lending powern

Rent free

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the funny part is that that user was just joking, nothing of what he said is real, and ever happened.
This adds to the comedic value of how embarrassing your post is.

ah yess everything is "just joking" when it looks bad. The state of clover cucks

Nah, the sword can absorb and use magic. Licht and Asta both did the same thing.

readThe third sword in anti magic works as Droite remembered it in his time and the power lending is just a form of magic absorption which Licht does.

A lot of the stuff surrounding the devils and 5-leaf grimoires feels off. I get the impression Tabata might have just winged some parts of it which created some inconsistencies. It's possible that they might be explained later on but some of them would require fairly convoluted explanations.

The 5th leaf is supposed to hold a devil in it according to the narrator, but Wevil didn't know anything about Amvil and didn't expect him to be there which contradicts that claim. Wevil's new grimoire doesn't appear to have a new devil in it either. It was also not just the narrator speaking because Ronne/Wevil said something similar in . If Devils are born when a 5-leaf is created then Wevil would know about it and expect a new devil to show up, but that was not the case. If devils are supposed to live in the 5-leafs then why are both Wevil and Amvil trying to obtain bodies for themselves instead of living in the grimoires? If they're neither born in nor live in the 5-leafs then why do both Wevil and the narrator make the connection between the two?

Why did Licht's grimoire seemingly remain a sword grimoire after it was turned into a 5-leaf when Patri's grimoire turned from a light grimoire into a sausage grimoire? Amvil claims anti-magic comes from him so if he was placed in the grimoire later on, what was the grimoire's type before that? How did some of Licht's swords end up scattered in different places while one remained in the grimoire?

Behave differently? They behave the same you bumbling fool. Licht just knows how to absorb opponents magic.

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Is there any chance we're ever going to see Licht's sword magic at full power? Right now he doesn't even have a grimoire anymore and he unfortunately didn't get to fight anything in the flashback.

No astas sword turns the magic into projectile anti magic

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Licht doesnt have wicked heart rn so if Asta/Licht uses the 3rd sword to revert all the elves to their human form, they can then move the elves to new bodies that sally makes without them having the wicked heart.

You do know that the "5th leaf is the devil" is actually an old saying right?
I dont think the narrator is being 100 percent literal here.

Just caught up to the manga. Fuck, this sure is a long ass arc. It's been ages since any other shonen has had an arc this long, except One Piece.

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Having questions doesnt mean plot inconsistencies.

I don't know what you're expecting? It just seems like Licht would fly around and absorb/reflect magic with his swords. The FWK's magic was disappointing as well.

Because it is the end of the series

500 year old underdeveloped grimoire magic.
Remember trap magic was not even a thing back then.
Its consistent that there magic is simple.

>pic
I miss him so much

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>Licht sticks around
>Father-son stuff with Yuno
>Teaching sword stuff with Asta
>All setting up for a tragic death during the war with Spade
Could see it.

Rent free

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You do realize that the human souls will disappear if the elves stay in the host body long enough.

Yeah pretty much. I am soo upset that the series is ending already

>The 5th leaf is supposed to hold a devil in it according to the narrator, but Wevil didn't know anything about Amvil and didn't expect him to be there which contradicts that claim.
wevil knew there was a devil in the grimoire, he was just suprised that the devil was resonating with him
he even says that there is a devil in 5-leafs before asta shows up
>Why did Licht's grimoire seemingly remain a sword grimoire after it was turned into a 5-leaf when Patri's grimoire turned from a light grimoire into a sausage grimoire?
The demons in the grimoires are similar to bell and salamander in that they dont completely override the original grimoire, but instead add devil spells to it (which the big sausage monster was)

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>?
Sally was asking a question, not stating a fact
Anti-magic projectile slashes are black. When asta did it with Noelle the slash was a blue water-like texture and when it happened with Gauche the slash was white like his reflect rays.
jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/black_clover/en/0/20/page/3
jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/black_clover/en/0/45/page/11
sauce?

Rent free

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>into projectile anti magic
Sally doesn't know at the time. Anti magic can't be colored blue or grey. It's the same shit Licht did to Yuno.

Well, not his dad, but the half elf spirit inside him's dad. Yuno has some human dad somewhere, whether alive or dead.

I know. I really wish this series could last much longer but oh well I guess

Rent free

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Yeah I guess we all have this series stuck in our head. It was really good too bad it had to have such a short life

Rent free

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You think we'll get a real name for Wevil before he gets taken out?

Feels like they're definitely gonna have more devils as antagonists in the future sagas. So it'll be weird if they keep referring to Wevil as "The devil from back then" while future devils get names.

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Sure

He didnt mention amvil in the flash back

I dont think we will, they probably have names in the weird demon language.

So embarrassing.

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"Be cucked"

Which is why I said they might be explained, but I mentioned how they would require convoluted explanations which is what usually happens when an author tries to fix inconsistencies. It's just odd how the two devils and the two 5-leafs seem to obey different rules so far.

>wevil knew there was a devil in the grimoire
He sensed it, but he didn't expect it to be there. He even said something along the lines how he doesn't know how it got inside.
>The demons in the grimoires are similar to bell and salamander in that they dont completely override the original grimoire
That makes sense but I'm not sure I believe that unless we see the devil use light magic or the grimoire's magic type gets named. Also I don't think it was confirmed the sausage monster originated from some sort of a demon/devil, but perhaps we might learn about that if they manage to defeat Wevil here.

the 5 leaf was already made in the flashback, and he hasn't mentioned whatever devil is in patri's grimoire. The devils in the 5-leafs cant interact with the outside world without a body, so it doesnt make much sense to have they mentioned if they arn't going to do anything.

That's how he'll beat Asta, Gantz style. But that's when Asta's devil will eat Wevil and laugh at him.

Can I get a source because that would mean wevil was inside a 5 leaf at some point but he clearly had no issue fucking with shit without a body.

>Feels like they're definitely gonna have more devils as antagonists in the future sagas
There gonna be hot slutty female one right I believe in Tabata.

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Going by usual shounen escalation, how many devils do you think will end up running the Spade Kingdom for the final arc of the series?

I'm thinking like 5-6. One leader and a bunch of underlings to split between the main cast.
Gonna be funny looking back at all this many years from now when Noelle is spirit diving with Undyne to solo some female devil.

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>he thinks spade is end game
Lol

We don't know what endgame is. Too soon.

This guy gets it.

>joelle getting a spirt
Pls no keep her power set different from yuno.

Whoops, meant Undine. Always think it's spelled with a y because of the Undertale character.

Of course it will be. They're the biggest country, the map page mentioned they got a big military, they're seperated from the other countries, etc.

We're likely gonna go into a couple more sagas about Diamond and Heart leading into a big ass war with Spade as the endgame.

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>they're big country that means bad villain
Did you also think Xing and Drachma would be the final villains in FMA?

Charlotte is gonna remember this when she gets her body back.

>implying it wont be the rising sun saga that's end game.

3/4 spirits in the clover kingdom is too much

>Noelle is spirit diving with Undyne
>giving two people in the main trio the same power
That would be a hack move from Tabata. Besides what would have been the point of giving Noelle Valkyrie Dress as a wearable power similar to Black Asta and Spirit Dive if she was also going to get a different wearable power later on? The whole point was for the main trio to reach comparable levels of power and to develop similar abilities in their own way by utilizing their own specialties. The Undine user is going to be Noelle's big battle in Heart kingdom and might become her rival.

I hope so

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How did Licht cast a spell without a grimoire in this chapter?

There were very different scopes there.

FMA from very early on made it clear that it was solely about the fate of Amestris.
Black Clover, on the other hand, is ending it's first big saga with closure on the history and turmoil of Clover Kingdom while already having laid seeds of conflict or arcs with the other kingdoms.

Diamond is too far along to be the endgame, Heart is supposedly an ally though they'll likely have their own saga that involves some crazy shit.
Spade is the one that's separate from the rest and literally covered in fog and mystery. The only mention of them so far has been about a force of theirs being taken down by the Golden Dawn in their list of accomplishments.
Also, there's something north of Spade that was specifically cut off on the map. There's no way the endgame shit isn't gonna go down in Spade.

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The spirits them selves might be a clover thing
It's not impossible that fanas origin is the clover kingdom.
Shes also an elf reincarnation

Just like how you can post a lot of shit in a thread about a series you hate, he just can.

Grimoires record your spells
But it's the individual who develops them.

Asta and Yuno's transformations are currently literally half formed. Noelle got a full transformation.
She's gotta develop alongside them more and unless she's just gonna get even bigger armor the logical answer would be for her to get a Spirit of her own and be able to Mana Zone it up.
Unless she manages it on her own, but the only people we've seen do that so far is Lumiere if I'm not mistaken.

It's going to be
>Clover saga - introduces the cast, the setting and core concepts, sets up the devils
>Kingdom saga - introduces the other 3 kingdoms and develops the devil threat
>timeskip - Yami takes Asta to the Land of the Rising Sun to hone his swordsmanship
>final arc - all the kingdoms and knights come together to face whatever the final villains are going to be
That's a good 600-700 chapters right there which is around the same length as Naruto and Bleach. Even 400-500 chapters would be pretty good.

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Doesn't that demons ace have a very high similarity to High End noumus face?

Based

Noelle already has a minor spirit in her wand. Perhaps she could awaken metal magic to become a natural double elemental, a weapon to surpass Nozel Gear.

Spade is winter land, too constrained to be the finale.
The evil gods will be the real end game.
Figuring out the secret of the grimoires, why there isn’t many other races around anymore, angels giving the cast a powerup.
Charmy’s wolf being wounded and running away implies there’s a more powerful group around.

Tabata said noelle has the the magical potential to surpass both acier and the fwk.
Its weird to mention acier along side the fwk unless they are of comparable power. We haven't seen much of acier but she seems to get by on armor alone. Noelles magic power is just going to be insane.
Shes fine

Marry me user

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>The spirits them selves might be a clover thing
That would be a bad idea because it would tip the balance of power on the continent to much in Clovers favour. Elf lands got annexed by the clover kingdom so if Salamander originates from there it wouldn't make it a clover native.

Hes planning for one peice long bro.
Better buckle up

>pic
How can Yami even compete?

Elf lands are clover natives.

He can't. That's why he's settling for Charla instead.

Now they are. But back then they were separate nations.

Everywhere that gave clover grimoires are the clover kingdom

>implying Balman won't claim Charla as well

All these theories are cool and all, but what if Asta got a spirit?

Not really, Heart isn’t military based, diamond lacks resources so has problem getting well bred soldiers, spade is winter so same as diamond.
Clover is the best.

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Says who? The elves didn't recognise the Clover kings as rulers and vice versa.

>There's no way the endgame shit isn't gonna go down in Spade.
Yami is too important of a character to leave his country alone.

wevil may never have been in a grimoire, we just dont know

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Given how the devils/demons are connected to "the other world" which is connected to the Shadow Palace, which in turn is connected to the Apostles of Sefirot, I kind of expect the devils to be associated with its evil counterpart the Qliphoth. As it happens, Astaroth, who was likely the basis for Asta's name as well as Liltih, likely the basis for sister Lily, happens to be associated with it as well, perhaps hinting at some kind of a connection. According to Wikipedia the names of the demons connected to the Qliphoth are:
>To Thamiel, “there are two demons that are attributed to stress the view that the demonic opposite of Kether is duality instead of unity and are Satan and Moloch or Malech”.
>To Chaigidel, “both Satan and Beelzebub are attributed as well as Adam Belial.
>To Sathariel, Lucifuge “is attributed and is probably a name made up to replace the name Lucifer, 'Light Bearer'
>To Gamchicoth, “Astaroth is attributed.
>To Golachab, Asmodeus is attributed.
>To Thagirion, “the replacement of Tiphereth, the sphere of the vitalising Sun, with a place holding Belphegor, the lord of dead, is most striking”.
>To Harab Serapel, “Baal is attributed, and is "a word which means Lord, much as Adonai means Lord. The word Baal or 'Bel' has become restricted in its usage to signify a 'Lord of Darkness'.”
>To Samael, Adrammelech is attributed.
>To Gamaliel, Lilith is attributed and “is the grand lady of all demons. The demons are sometimes considered to be the children of Lilith and is said to be the woman who comes to men in their dreams.”
>(regarding Nehemoth) Naamah “is traditionally a demon and the sister of Lilith
So with Astaroth and Lilith being taken, Naamah being a female and Satan&Moloch perhaps being twin devils or something, pick from Beelzebub, Lucifuge/Lucifer, Asmodeus, Belphegor, Baal and. Adrammelech.

You dont understand.
I'm not actually considering the kingdom of Clover as we know it as the actually clover kindom.
There is real borders between the land that supply different grimoires.
The diamond kingdom has diamond grimoires.
I guess it might he better to say diamond lands? And clover lands?
All the places that give clover grimoires are clover lands.
The four great spirits are quite likely to be a clover lands thing.

>Asta was created to become a host for Astaroth(Amvil?) who needs a host without magic power
>Lilith, in the form of Lily, was sent to make sure this would happen, she's a succubus that charmed Asta and drained his mana through lewd dreams until he became magicless
It's practically canon bois.

Wait, people actually think we'll ever see Yami's homeland?
That's part of the joke of him. His homeland is just Japan. He's pretty much an isekai character and he's ridiculously strong cause nippon steel and all that.
I don't think we're ever really gonna get more of a backstory for him than we already have. It'll focus more on his development like it has been so far. At most we may see some of it in a flashback to him as a kid at some point giving us a reason for him doing all the training and shit he did.

I want to see the ki magic nip warriors.
So yeah I think we are gunna see not japan.

If we are going as long as one piss we are gunna get there eventually.

Decent theory but until more information about grimoires and what influences the symbol on the cover is revealed it will remain just that. The fact that the wind spirit was located in the disputed border lands between Clover and Diamond contradicts your assumption about the spirits originating from Clover.

Ki is a huge deal. If Yami, Asta, and Vetto have it, then it's gonna be a gamechanger.

>There is real borders between the land that supply different grimoires.
Actually we don't know that for sure. The grimoires come from the earth but we don't know why the different kingdoms have different symbols on them. We know based on Fana and Mars that the covers of grimoires can be modified, so perhaps clover grimoires are the natural ones and the other kingdoms just change the covers a bit.
>The four great spirits are quite likely to be a clover lands thing.
The spirits are not tied to the leaves of the clover. Sylph appeared in a dungeon between Clover and Diamond while Fana, who was from Diamond, had Salamander.

Its disputed lands between kingdoms
But the land there is probably clover lands.
The witch forest ain't in the clover kindom too but they all have clover grimoires.
So it must be clover lands.
Its definitely not based on where you where born but where you receive the grimoire or yamis grimoire certainly would not have been a clover grimoire

>just break your limits, kid
>oxygen punch harder yamato damashi woooaaaah dempsey roll

Hi BCfags.
I wanted to ask you something. I recently got back into black clover becuase of boredom, I didn't have anything to do so I came back to give the show a chance again. Suprinsingly the second time it wasn't as tedious to watch as it was the first time. I can't quite understand why that happened though but it felt like a different show.
But let me ask you this. I understand that dropping the series after its first chapters is what most people would do but why didn't you do it? Did you believe that it would turn into something interesting later on or did you just simply keep on going with it just to kill some time?

I love Noelle.

Noelle hooked me in. Nowadays I genuinely like the series.

>why didnt you drop it.
Noelle

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The manga isn't as annoying as the anime (because shonen punchman anime is always shit, even HxH slowed the fuck down in CA and they're really respectful with that series for some reason) and I liked the premise so I gave it a shot

The joke is Yami is basically a full grown Shonen protagonist who’s series is over.

>probably clover lands
What are you basing this probability on?
>The witch forest ain't in the clover kindom too but they all have clover grimoires
Citation?

Did it for noelle.
No regrets.
Shes satifying as fuck.

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I actually read chapter 99 or something first because I happened to see it posted somewhere. I just kept reading it from there every now and then since it seemed interesting, started following it every week a little while later and then watched the anime when it came out for the earlier arcs. The first few arcs are kind of dull so I think this was actually a decent way to get into the series.

That the dungeon had lichts sword really.
>citation.
The witch queen has a clover grimoire.

I did drop it around the start of the Witches Forest arc because nothing really hit me. But the elfening made me come back. Been a hype ride since.

The circumstances of the sword ending up in the dungeon is unknown and wq might have been a clover citizen originally

Pretty understandable.
It seems to me that it really was a turn your brain-off series until the author decided to pull the big guns.
I would have never said this a year ago but I'm glad I gave it another chance.

Several of the witches born and raised there have clover grimoires as well.

Now that Licht has fully recovered, how is he going to react to seeing Mimosa? Is Yuno going to get a new mommy?

Funny part is that once you see the big twist.
If you re read you see how right In front of your face all the hints were to that twist. And how he laced it though the entire plot.
Then I realized I was reading undercover big brain manga

More importantly, will he suck that mommy's milkers?

It's big brain manga because of World Trigger.

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Meh edit.
The right ear peice should be behind noelles cheek bones

You mean hungry joker.

He’s probably playing it cool on the outside but is dying to for some milk on the inside.

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Am I the only one who likes the fast-paced fights of BC? I really like how in BC, when there's a fight, it's just that and nothing else. I remember getting frustrated with other series becuase of muh memories and muh talking in the middle of the fight.
I genuinely love how BC just lets a fight be a fight and no talking or other unimportant shit gets in the way. But I adore that that characters aren't slow either. But why are so many people so slow they literally can't understand what's going on? I didn't know seeing a character dodge magic beams was so difficult to keep up with.

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Please no more meta shit

This is what happens when normies invade your nerd safespace

If sword magic exist, is there also bow and arrow magic, shield magic, armor magic and fist magic? Imagine a 4-leaf armor grimoire being corrupted and then possessed by an anti-magic devil. A suit of armor that nullifies magic on contact, basically making the user invulnerable except for physical attacks which the armor would of course resist to some extent.

You are making a bunch of assumptions in assuming theres more than one amvil

I want to see fist magic now

>frame drops
Retard.

Vetto kinda has fist magic.

Nothing in the post implies that there is more than one of them.

>Anons stopped posting becuase they don't want the thread to reach bump limit.
Cute.

Why is BC the best new gen shounen right now?

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500 for Langris

>BC characters more useless than Suckura
Lmao

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FUCK OFF LANGRIS

Fuck off

>the 10 Apostles of Sephira are the elites of the elves
>2 lose against a bunch of kids
>3 get off-screened
>1 gets punched by a hungry midget
>1 gets BLACKED
>1 is barely even on screen and then just disappears
>1 is half comatose the entire time
Rhya carried the entire group.

He not wrong.............................

Everybody who fought Reve are adults.

If all elfs, even those helping right, are "killed" I'll be pretty disappointed.

1. Almost all elves are currently possessing human bodies.
2. If the possession goes on for too long the human souls will die.
3. It takes time and effort to create artificial bodies.
The only way for most of the elves to survive is for a bunch of humans to die. Yuno's possession was incomplete, Licht, Vetto and Fana have new bodies and Rhya has been possessing his for so long that the host is likely already dead. So Licht and the former 3rd Eye will survive which interestingly matches the lineup of WNE except with a different Licht this time. I could see the surviving elves leaving the kingdom with the goal of trying to resurrect everyone else or to restore the tribe by pumping Fana full of babies.

>responding to him

I don't believe this meme that everyone that posts something dumb is the same person.

>Bump limit.
See you anons later!

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It's the same fucking fake esl dude.
Notice he never ever uses words incorrectly. And just shits on the grammar instead.
Its fucking obvious.

It's my first post here what the fuck have you done to my Black Clover threads fuck off.

Asta can save the humans with the 3rd sword (licht might be able to also with the 3rd sword) so as long as they can find a way to remove the elf souls after that, they have plenty of time to make them new bodies.

Yeah you got a point. I wish they could exist as a second assisting soul. Charlotte and Charla would be double tsundere.

>Charla giving Charlotte tsun advice
She'd be a better help than Sol.

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What cuties

Yeah I wish I had a fairy or bird to sit on my shoulder