Weapon is said to pierce the heart without NEVER EVER failing, dodging is 100% impossible

Fate is trash. More news at 11.

Hassan could just give him the run around until he finally dropped or the Shadow ate him, so there was no point to fighting anymore even if he could. And he wasn't just standing there. He had already been caught in Hassan's trap.

Did you just watch Digi's fate Apocrypha video or what?

Again, are we talking about the same Cu Chulainn? The one that tied himself to a fucking stone with his intestines hanging out?

Who?

He had a reason to keep fighting and actually accomplished something in doing so. There was no chance to finish off Hassan in his state with the Shadow about to devour him.

doing attrition battle as a static defense doesn't work in the HF scenario.

He hung around in UBW because Rin needed freeing. In HF, eh, whatever.

The real heart was the friends that the spear has made along the way.

>weapon is said to pierce the heart without NEVER EVER failing
The thing is that it can't be dodged, but he can miss, which he does since Lancer has the shittiest luck stat

It was more about Saber's luck being very high and Lancer's luck being very low. It gave her a chance not to take the full hit.

The only rule that matters to Nasu is the stronger you are, the more you job

>The thing is that it can't be dodged, but he can miss
Are you fucking kidding me. Is this how pedantic Fate fans are?

>Rulebreaker is such a massive threat to any plot that Medea is the only original servant not to reprise a major role in some way in FGO
It's the only Noble Phantasm that does what it says on the tin without failing.

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How come Archer never used Rule Breaker?

I believe it was explained that he (or at least shirou) couldn't comprehend it fully but I'm not sure

It's possible to have your heart pierced but not die. Saber is that lucky. The End.

But that's not what happened. It specifically missed her heart.

>Against Servants
Archer only ever had combat superiority over Caster, it's highly likely attacking with rulebreaker would lead to an instant counter that would kill him
>Against non-servant magic shit
It's always too late to do anything by time any magic plot reveals itself to Archer
>In the extraverse
Might have worked for another master, but breaking Hakuno's connection to the moon cell would have been a bad idea for obvious reasons.

Isn't the spear supposed to shoot thorns through the target's body to ensure the kill or something?
I think you could even see it in one of the anime adaptions.

He could just turn Rule Breaker into an arrow and shoot it at people. If he didn't want it to be used against him, he could just broken phantasm it.

What if Archer never saw Rule Breaker in his Grail War

>Do rules mean anything at all in this series
You tell me user

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No, I think the head has a shitton of thorns that absolutely RUIN the heart, like the older bayonets, with an anti-healing curse on top of that.

>People forget the instinct skill exists
It's arguably the largest contribution to her kit. Tsubame Gaeshi is implied to be able to repel Heracles for how good a technique it is and Saber is able to find a weakness in it because of that.

>The VN explicitly states that the spear can be dodged with luck
>"BUT WHY CAN SHE DODGE IT THIS MAKES NO SENSE"

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Surprise, artificious D&D stats retardation doesn't make for good storytelling.

Has Cu ever actually managed to kill ANYTHING he tried to Gae Bolg the heart of, other than himself?

Yes he could just do that, but the only servant he might get a decent hit on with it is Heracles, but I have no clue if God Hand would negate it outright because it wouldn't penetrate.

Whenever a rule is described in the Nasuverse, always interpret it as the opposite. It will be dodged 100% of the time, and you're stuck listening to a hack write in circles for multiple paragraphs trying to hype you up for the inevitable.

Nobody has claimed that it's good storytelling though.

Well, what happens less than a minute after he's told to stab himself?

I was gonna say "Well, Saber died via a lance so maybe it's tied to that", except nah, Saber was the one who killed Mordred with the Lancer.

Saber herself died via a sword that auto-activated upon death.

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Isn't the whole thing about the more well known and exaggerated the story, the greater the power level? Maybe since nobody gives a fuck about gay bulge the story isn't as powerful and isn't able to fulfil it's potential.

The only time it worked as intended is against Bazette.

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>Known as No Second Strike
>Fails to Kill Hakuno and their servant in one strike
>Still has a 95%+ success rate because of all the other servants and masters killed in one hit.

Cu just needed to stop being a scrub and relying on magic to stab people in the chest.

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Is that why Nasu doesn't do a Satsuki route? Because Depletion Garden fucking ends the setting?

Get off Yea Forums miyako

Because takeuchi wanted the maid routes

He does, in the remake :^)

Saber dodged it just because of her high Luck. Instinct has nothing to do with it.

No.

Real answer: A mix of Saber's Instinct A + High luck stat saved her, causing her to jerk away and not have her heart pierced at the last possible moment.
Ufotable animated this by having her pull her hands and sword back to entirely block her heart. Regardless of how Gae Bolg works, it can't hit what it can't hit.

Even Archer manages to avoid getting shanked in the heart by staying out of Gae Bolg's range. He says it's ability isn't anything to fear as long as you don't get too close. Also you should NEVER deal in absolutes. Nasu goes out of his way to write "the exception" every single time a character states a rule. And we all know characters are not narrators. Just because Cu has never met anyone who can't be killed by his Gae Bolg doesn't mean other heroes don't have ways to work around it.

Meme answer (that you're looking for):
LMAO FATE SHIT SO INCONSISTENT

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Sort of, if a heroic spirit has a lot of fame in their place of summoning the greater their abilities. It's why Vlad is much stronger in Apocrypha, it's his home turf.

based chinese spear man

>to entirely block her heart. Regardless of how Gae Bolg works, it can't hit what it can't hit
Actually that's not how it works and blocking her heart is a bad representation, because in the case it does hit, GB would piece the heart first then the attack path follows after (cause and effect reverse)
The path can bend and travel in impossible ways to realize the fact that the lance has stricken, which happened first, so any kind of blocking or dodging in normal situation has no meaning.

>jobs to fucking assassin
How do you even fuck this up? Even Shiro was able to go toe-to-toe with Hassan for a short time.

>different words have different meanings
wow how complicated

thats not storytelling, that's the setting

2v1.

also using Zabaniya helps

>Pulling out is said to never fail
Where did you hear that?

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Nothing wrong with the Assassin class. It being shit is a meme pushed by people who don't know how to use the class.
If the system was actually balanced around how good the classes actually are, Assassin and Caster would be the top two.

Assassin sucks.
The Knight classes are the actually good class.
the rest are made as filler.

it's because of system's subversion that the non knight classes stand a chance.

Zouken, stop trying to pretend your copy of the system works. The only good Knight Class is Archer.
If you didn't give the Knight classes better class containers then they'd be the objective worst classes.

Lancer got fucked by Kirei's "You're not allowed to seriously fight with servants you meet for the first time" command seal.

With the money FGO is making, the Tsukihime remake better be some next level shit.

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>Actually that's not how it works and blocking her heart is a bad representation, because in the case it does hit, GB would piece the heart first then the attack path follows after (cause and effect reverse)
Yes but if it's impossible (say the person is under 6 feet of pure steel) the lance can't reach and the effect doesn't complete.
>The path can bend and travel in impossible ways to realize the fact that the lance has stricken, which happened first, so any kind of blocking or dodging in normal situation has no meaning.
This was never stated to be the case, you pulled this straight out of your ass.

>Assassin sucks.
>The Knight classes are the actually good class
imagine thinking this.

>If the system was actually balanced around how good the classes actually are
yeah, that's what they are supposed to be, you illiterate.

So you agree that knights were made to be better.

Doesn't it make sense that the characters are talking shit? Happens all the time in anime. Just because he never missed before doesn't make it impossible.

user, I...

retard

>tsukihime remake
It's like saying EVA 4.0 will come out

extra was basically a get out of jail free card for Nasu's poor writing and insistence on every enemy being defeated by the main character after overcoming their strongest move.

instead of every other servant sitting around doing nothing until it's their turn to fight main servant they fight faceless nameless NPC's. and instead of having super duper god servant!!!!!! get defeated without winning a single time and with nothing show9ng they are actually strong they totally defeated a ton of other servants before you they are a big deal!

Why were the prologue fights so good?

>Archer vs Lancer
>Saber vs Lancer
>Saber vs Berserker (Fate and HF ver.)
>Saber vs Berserker (UBW ver.)

They were kino.

He killed Jeanne with it in his side story in Extella

Fuyuki knight classes were made to be better and assassin still wrecks half of them, you dunce.

what is precum

No he doesn't ? Hassan gets wrecked the moment he fights any Servant without the Shadow.

And if you mean Kojiro then he'd be dead without Medea's anti-NP field set up around the temple

If people bothered to use Assassin correctly most of the masters in the 4th and 5th HGW would be dead within a few days.

Dodge =/= Miss
Dodging is a movable target avoiding an incoming force.
Missing is force itself failing to connect.

Just how a gunman can miss a shot when firing at a target out of own failure at aiming, the target does not dodge.

Same principle with Gae Bolg.
The target cannot dodge of its own accord but Cu Chulainn himself can fuck up. There are two different concepts at work.

And in this case, Luck affected the battle in causing Cu Chulainn to fuck up his own attack and miss out of his own accord.

Maybe when he was alive, everyone he used it on was a chump who died in one hit. So everyone just thought it worked that way.

>extra was basically a get out of jail free card for Nasu's poor writing and insistence on every enemy being defeated by the main character after overcoming their strongest move.

watch Fate/Extra Last Encore(100% written/directed by Nasu) so you can lose hope of the remake ever being good

Nasu tried to recreate the "plot twist" from the original extra (your saber is not really Saber from FSN) among other elements, like Not-Rin and familiar characters. Last Encore also works as some sort of epilogue that requires you not only to had played Extra and CCC but a decent knowledge of the lore in the Extraverse.

Of course this obviously was a bad idea and the show was cancelled along with some horrible sales.

>If people bothered to use Assassin correctly most of the masters in the 4th and 5th HGW would be dead within a few days.

How could Kotomine use Assassin correctly in the 4th HGW?

Literally the first NP we see used and with an immediate explanation on why it failed and people still can't get it.

wow

Basically meaning:
Gae Bolg's ultimate counter is to cause Cu Chulainn to screw up his own strike.

Could Lancer defeat Berserker, Caster, or Rider?

>and the show was cancelled
The show is finished

Kariya and Ryuunosuke are free pickings. Kotomine could just shank Tokiomi himself after getting Gil on his side. Kayneth is a dumbass and leaves himself wide open all the time. Kiritsugu works alone and would be forced to burn command seals to defend himself. If Kotomine has Gil on his side he can just sic him on Iskander

/tg/ here

>can't be dodged
No save allowed

>can miss
Unit has shit BS/WS

He probably stopped paying attention during the months long gap waiting for the last couple episodes.

Best girl

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wtf gae bolg is just a copy of those umineko servants

>The Legend of King Arthur states that she'll some day return holding Caliburn and claim certain victory over her enemies, hence "the once and future king". As a servant, this prophecy is made literal by the grail and takes the form of a Noble Phantasm whose activation condition is uniting Arthuria and Caliburn. Shirou fulfills this by tracing a copy of Caliburn that's close enough to the original to work, and the NP unleashes an attack that wins certain victory. That's the nature of the attack, it wins. The target had multiple lives so it killed him multiple times.

>It's basically a one-off trump card that Arthuria couldn't even use normally because she doesn't actually have Caliburn. Saber Lily doesn't have access to that particular Noble Phantasm because Lily is Arthuria before she lost Caliburn in the first place. There's no 'reuniting' to be had.

Does Saber's route deserve the hate it gets?

Shone battle shit rules exist to hype the MC and his crew and his jobbers and his rivals and his villains as the super, duper special snowflake exceptions. The stakes are high THIS time! Will they break THIS rule that NO ONE else EVER has!

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When the hack himself thinks the route needs a rewrite you know it's pretty bad.

virgin

>american sex ed

WELCOME TO CHUUNISHIT, MAY I TAKE YOUR ORDER

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>caste managed to frontally attack the EMiya household and rule breaker saber in a pure 1v1
Bad endings are fucking retarded

If he doesn't fuck up his own attack, sure.

>Random idiot joins thread to act smug after OP was already proven a speedwatcher/reader.
every time.

Ironically enough there are no jobbers in the chuunishit you posted.

I mean that's what he does to Shirou before he summons Saber. Just walks up and stabs him.

Wasn't allowed to go all-out and Hassan lured him into a trap. Had Hassan been forced to engage in actual combat without the Shadow being nearby as a stage hazard only he was aware of, he would've gotten creamed. The fight is meant to show the danger of the Shadow and how tactical Hassan is.

Caster and Rider are fights he pretty much can't lose outside of some really bad fuck-ups or outside interference. Rune Magic gives him counters to most of their stuff if he needs it and they pale in comparison to him in melee combat. Berserker is an enemy that he can pretty much only kill once or twice at best. He is able to buff up his spear to A rank with runes, but that's still only one way to kill Berserker. 12 times is pretty much out of the question without outside circumstance.

He's a Jobber, destined to fail in every rendition.

alabama

>This was never stated to be the case, you pulled this straight out of your ass.
user, the spear attack was fucking deleted from the timeline by fragarach and even like that killed bazzet in hollow ataraxia. No matter what you do if you are in range its going to fucking hit and only miss the hearth if you get a good luck roll

>Spinne

>Dies jobbing
>no jobbers

Supposedly Lancer's rune magic can allow him to bypass the "can't be killed by the same thing twice" bullshit, so he can win in theory. Whether he could actually manage to get 12 kills off on Heracles is another matter entirely.

> claims to be the weakest of the LDO.
> never went past Yetzirah
> MC is told by the person said to have organized the entire thing that with Marie, none of them will be a match for you
If anyone's a jobber then it's Kei. But even it's not really true.

Name one jobber. And by the way, losing != jobbing. Jobbing is when someone who's made out to be hot shit loses to someone that should never have won against them

gae bolg reverses causality, so you are already hit the moment he uses it, this makes lancer broken as fuck so he had to invent asspulls to make lancer job

You mean the status entry that gets added only after Saber plot armors her way out of it?

People do not die when they are killed.

>really bad fuck-ups
>Luck E

turkeyhandle and related is even worse THAT GUY stuff

Rider and Caster don't have great luck themselves.

>t. american

>Rider has Luck D while stuck with Shinji and always ends up being the chump who gets killed off first
>but in Heaven's Feel where she has Luck E, she gets to make it to the end and succeed

What a shit taste, fate is better than your favorite anime

Underrated post

>dodging is 100% impossible
Bad luck make it possible though

>american education

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I think the idea is that legends of heroes are born from their fights with fodder and non-heroes. The more common folk/soldiers might see their superior skills and spread the legend that they "can never miss", but in real fights with other heroes these legends hit a wall. They're still powerful but they have to work much more for it.

Is Gay Bulge the most OP ability? I mean , it can be spammed and one shots everyone (atleast theoretically)

>Kotomine says that under normal circumstances a Lancer should have no problems with fighting an Assassin
>the exact same movie shows that's not the case with a three minute fight in which Lancer doesn't kill Assasin but just chases him across the city
What did they mean by that? He doesn't even encounter the shadow until the end, so by all accounts, he was under normal circumstances to win.

You don't get a save to an attack anyways.

It's poor man's Tsubame Gaeshi, actually. But then again, Tsubame Gaeshi is a god-tier ability.

Fate fights notoriously whip out tons of cool conceptual abilities, but are more heavily reliant on a ranking and divinity system. Most fights are blatantly and horrifically unfair and unbalanced from the start. The anime doesn't make such as clear, but the VN lets you periodically check up on Servant stats and skill ranks and you get several in-depth lectures from Tohsaka-sensei and Saber during sparring.

This tho. Holy grails is just a whimsical bs who fucks everything and the girls in the series

Muh sacrifice is your thing maybe

Are you stupid?

sasuga Amerikan

Why does it say "it is a sure kill" when above it states how it can miss you?

If you can bend Kojiro's katana then Tsubame Gaeshi is no longer a threat. Also Kojiro has no long range option so Medea, Medusa, Redman, Gil or Cu can finish him from afar.

It says that you have to dodge before it executes/actives otherwise it is a sure kill. It's funny writing because each paragraph is trying to disprove and prove each other.

No they don't.

>muh kids

it's almost like the stats are completely arbritrary and are just there to seem cool or something

Every single "rule" we are told about in Fate is broken by the end. That's why we are told about them.

He creates rules with loopholes. There's always a loophole for every rule.

>bro what if we made this rule and then make this character break it to show how badass he is?
>woaaah this guy blocked an unblockable attack? thats not supposed to happen is he that strong???
>woaaah this servant summoned her own servant only mages can do that is she that strong???
>woaaah this 14 year old wizard is going toe to toe with a warrior of legend, nobody is supposed to be able to do that! is he that strong???
Did Zero trick you into thinking the rest of the series isn't dumb and shit?

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but Zero also pull the same dumb shit

>Didn't read the VN

You do know that the Fate/Stay night Grail war was completely made up for an ulterior motive right? That's why the rules fucking changed every war and why only a select few people knew what the true purpose was.

you can't get pregnant from that

Medea does have a role tho. Just that it's loli Medea

The majority of rules in Fate are "broken" because they were bullshit to begin with. That was the entire point and why Heaven's Feel is the way it is.

It fucking starts out with the fucking main character breaking the "rules" did you not stop to think that it's just an overarching theme of the VN?

So how did archer didn't die, he have E rank luck.

Maybe not every statement is true lol. In shiner there is countless times where someone say something about speed and strength as a figure of speech but in reality it’s not true

>woaaah this random elmelon guy basically made it so that Lancer basically has two masters maintaining him at the same time, nobody else could do this! is he that strong???

Is Kojiro the most cucked servant?

He redeemed himself in Shimosa.

>Rules for the HGW
^Fuyuki HGW
>every 40 years
^60 years, but there's only 10 years between the 4th and the 5th as explained in the story but yeah it counts as a broken rule i guess
>past
^Throne of Heroes

Saber kojiro when?

Couple things:
First, the translation most of us have read, the TakaJun one, is pretty terrible. The translator was a fluent japanese speaker but not a fluent english speaker, so his approach was to rewrite lines into english in a way that made sense to him, but often not in a way that was correct or preserved what was actually being said.

Second, Gae Blog manipulates causality. basically, if the attack is dodged, it rearranges things and tries again. It's like rolling a dice and just rerolling until you get the number you want. However, Saber has Instinct, a magical skill granted to her by the fairies and elementals of britain. Instinct activates when her life is in danger to give her a precognitive vision of that danger and an oppourtunity to avoid it. This skill is the sole reason she was still a factor as a Servant even with Shirou as a master. It's a massive advantage.

When Gae Bolg attempts to pierce her heart, Instinct activates and shows her what's going to happen, allowing her to avoid it. Gae Bolg then rewrites Causality and Instinct activates again, another dodge, and again and again and again. Basically, there is no outcome where Gae Bolg strikes her heart, because no matter how causality is changed she will always have the ability to avoid it. The outcome where the spear strikes her heart literally does not exist, so no amount of manipulation of cause and effect can produce an effect that is impossible. The resolution is that Ge Bolg just settles for the best outcome, which is a near-miss that still pierces her shoulder. This is also the reason Saber manages to avoid being killed by Tsubame Gaeshi twice- Instinct shows her what's going to happen and the way to protect herself.

Nasu describes this interaction as a luck check for the sake of brevity.

Damn. Saber is really strong.

You and all the other digibro fanboy faggots can fuck off.

The ONLY TIME his "unblockable blow" is mentioned to be "unblockable" is after it fails and he's shocked.

There was never any fucking rule to begin with you retard.

And he pretty much did, until the shadow arrived.
Everything Hassan threw at his couldn't even land.

Even in the VN we only find out what it does in the status screen after he uses it.

The same status screen which tells us how it can be avoided

>missing the point this hard
>on top of being a speedwatcher and being this wrong
sasuga Fatebab

The hell is this from?

>summoning your Servant in such a way that you get to have the Command Spells while your fiance supplies the Servant when there were "supposed" to be exactly 7 Master-Servant pairs isn't breaking the rules

Don't expect good writing from fateshit. Its a genuinely awful series.

The secondary is strong with this one.
If you knew anything about rules you'd know about Fate manipulation. Since that would be too broken Servants with a luck stat of around B and above can affect their near future fate and avoid it from hitting a vital organ like the heart...Saber had to add intuition on top of that though and it still landed so it's effects remain relevant throughout a good run of the story due to Shirou's inability to provide Saber with enough mana to heal. Now you can debate on how you feel about that anyhow but it's not hard noticing the writer clearly took an obvious event into consideration considering it's unironically a consistent constant (if your IQ is above 5 that is)

(Yes gaspu desu...The luck stat actually serves a purpose and isn't just there for fun.Shocking right fgo players)

Like how Gil lost in 3 routes despite having high luck right? Like how Saber got stabbed in Medea in Fate despite having high luck right?

is there a single spear hero in fiction who aren't total jobber/traitor?

Local user realizes Yea Forums is infested by secondaries and casuals pretending to know anything unaware it shows

>when you try to BTFO someone but you have a double-digit IQ

Wow. You do understnd we're talking about something pretty close to true magic here Now where does luck come into non-set...
Never mind. If you don't get context and when it's applicable that's your problem not mine.
Just don't blame creators for your own inability to understand simple ish

understand*
RIP my kindergarten spelling classes

>one contract
>one master
>one set of command seals
>breaking the rules
And how exactly is this trying to make Kayneth look cool and powerful anyway? Stupid shitposter

Genuinely embarrassing.

i think comaprision still works, since gae bolg has about the same sucess rate as trying to pull out in time.

>other Masters have to supply their Servants with their own energy
>Kayneth gets to keep his Command Spells while someone else does the job of keeping Lancer maintained for him

More like it was written in a vague way that no matter the outcome the author can still explain it and it will fit in despite suggesting otherwise.

its about as fair as feeding bystanders energy to servant, nothing wrong with that.

>one guy gets a gun
>the others dont get a gun
wtf so unfair its almost like cheating
You do know that it's already been established that the mana doesn't HAVE To come from the master right? Medea and Bluebeard both use methods to sustain themselves beyond their master

And the whole point is moot anyway because it's not even played up to establish Keyneth as a powerful figure anyway, which was the whole point of . I get that you're a Fate fan, but try thinking for a minute here

>Nasu
>rules

The only actual rule is that whatever he says is canon, except if he decides to revoke it afterwards.

Rin can kill Herc 10 times if she uses 10 gems smartly.
Change my mind.

if the plot needs her to

It's not that complicated.

Gae Bolg's instant death move is a destiny-based effect, and a Servant's Luck stat is how much they can tell destiny to go fuck itself.

No tsubame gaeshi isn't actually true 2nd magic. More of a shadow of a shadow. Impressive for a rather nonexistent swordmen of folklore but that's it

>fateshit
>good writing

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>For every 100 people who use the pull out method perfectly, 4 will get pregnant. But pulling out can be difficult to do perfectly. So in real life, about 22 out of 100 people who use withdrawal get pregnant every year.

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>This was never stated to be the case, you pulled this straight out of your ass.
Read the fucking VN.

LMAO

The Priest!

>It provides the three effects of resurrection, attack-nullification, and the ability of "immunity against an attack he has experienced previously."[
Yeah if only they contain 10 top tier entirely different spells or elements

>It fucking starts out with the fucking main character breaking the "rules".
Isn't that most shounen MC's though?

it doesn't say you need to 'dodge' it. It says you need to change your fate before it is executed, which implies something else. Semantics are important.

I sure do wonder if this might have been a literary technique to get you used to the idea that "certainty" weren't going to be hard and fast. As if this was the start of the story or something.

>people not getting that the analogy works because it is actually said that pulling out never fails, but it doesent make it true

Whats the reality of that? Whats the reality of Gay Bulge working?

What does fate stay night even mean?

I'm glad at least a few people aren't so narrow-minded in here. Gae bolg litererally states you can avoid it by changing fate, that's not just a simple dodge.

>stronger than any fate characters

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Ainz is literally Saitama of the isekai genre. This is an unfair comparison

Luck isn't some all-powerful superpower cheesing you out of all damage. It only comes into effect against correspondingly strong Mystery that has some horseshit ability like causality manipulation or the creation of additional instances of a blade during a swing. It might also mitigate damage from a particularly strong blow by shifting you away from where the blow was intended to hit, but you're still gonna take some damage. Gil got nuked once by Excalibur and didn't even technically lose against Shirou, and it only takes a minor injury from Rule Breaker for it to take effect.

Except, you know, Proto-Herc.

If Herc gains immunity against an attack he has experienced previously how did he lose to Saber Alter who kept on spamming Excaliblast?

Because Excalibur/Caliburn is a literal cheat and nasu is a faggot

Archer can beat him with his bow.

Any servant with holy water can defeat him so saint Martha

>Sacred Turn Undead

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the command spells is the main point. hundred faces works perfectly, you can sacrifice three copies against each master to make them waste their command spells. if they refuse to use them they'll die to even a weakened assassin in close combat. gil wouldn't be covering kotomine's ass 100% of the time and if the war is close enough to its end he might not even care.

why the hell do you post aqua in every damn thread? you faggots are driving me insane

The absolute fucking state of Fateniggers

Ainz can pulverize literally anybody from the Fate universe with "The goal of all life is death". Not even Goetia or Tiamat can withstand it

My first time coming back to a Fate thread in a few months so no
btw
>calling others faggots
>play F/GO

Stop being gay.

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aaaaaaAAAAAA
>floods Nazarick & the continent with mud

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why the hell do you post ainz in every damn thread? you faggots are driving me insane

Who would Aqua summon if she joined the grail war?

ok retard

Fuck off you Axis cultist.

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saber aka darkness

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Assassin Kama

>Fate power autism
Type-Mercury CHADS UNITE

It's not time yet.

It's a porn kusoge for virgins.

*dabs*

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>all those brainlets replying to this
Some retards say that despite it being an obvious falsehood, fits perfectly to F*te and any of its 'rules'.

>the movie was just MC's dream so it's OK that it was bad
Not falling for the Jewish tricks.

Isn't Human History/Beast > Celestial Bodies in Fate ? Also i won't be surprised if ORT shows up in LB7 and is going to be defeated by Gun Goddess Mashu.

Btw, Celestial Bodies department is under the Animusphere family.

Literal imbecile

>Gun Goddess Mashu.
This would be the ultimate cockslap to the face of old Nasu. I wouldn't be surprised if the FGO version of Sion just hands her a Black Bullet Replica and tells her to go hard.

I always found it strange that this was the NP to shitpost about since they only explained what Gae Bolg does during the exact same scene in which it fails
There was no established rule to break

>Only heroic souls can be summoned
>And Medusa i guess
>Oh, and hassans

grail was corrupted newfag

The grail mud was in the process of nullifying his divinity. It's why he's easily dispatched by Shirou later in the route

They explain why they could be summoned in the anime/VN dumbass

Luck stat doesn't make you suddenly really lucky with drops in your mmo. It's a stat that helps you fuck with destiny.

>Do rules mean anything at all in this series?

No.

>implying the Hassan aren't heroes
Plenty of heroes assassinated people during history.

>Implying anything Nasu has ever done was good.

>It's a massive advantage
Literally never used in other works like, may God forgive me, zero

here user, arm yourself properly for your next attempt.

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write a post that includes all those buffs

Her life is never really threatened in Zero

>Caster being top two
>When half the classes have innate magic resistance

lmao

Narita >>> Nasu

Strange Fake is so good and

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>Rule breaker counters everything
Is it true?

That's not a joke, user. Sion already says she is going to upgrade Mashu's Bunker Bolt with "conceptual weapon of natural lifespan" in LB3 intro. In the novel version of Meiho-sou (just released today) which still follows the original script and takes place after LB3 (Nasu changed it in the game version), it mentions that Chaldea have to encounter LB4 since they need some materials to install Black Barrel Replica onto her shield.

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>Strange Fake is so good and
Before posting be aware of assassins

I just came to this thread to say that the only shit worth watching of this shit ass series is Zero and Prisma. Everything else ist shit desu.

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Can it counter the damage FGO has done to the franchise?

yes

Shield spear paradox

Isn't "hassan" literally the Japanese word for bankruptcy?

not the neet penis living vagina paradox?

>Assassin class is consisted of the Hassan tribe, the only assassins considered to be Heroic Spirits
>the word Assassin in itself is a catalyst for Hassan
>Kojirou was a special case which was specifically stated
>Extra just does whatever the fuck it wants
>from then on Assassin is fair game for anything
>absolute retarded shit like Jack the Ripper or Elizabeth Battory, mass murderers, are considered heroes

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It was stated before the huge mess it is now. You have to admit it would be pretty boring bring any of them back whenever you need more assassins for your war

Is Atalanta a pedophile?

thats tosan.

>Assassin class is consisted of the Hassan tribe, the only assassins considered to be Heroic Spirits
>the word Assassin in itself is a catalyst for Hassan
Doesn't this only apply to the Fuyuki HGW system ?

yes. Even if it didn't Nasu saying it's legendary spirit instead of heroic spirit would be an easy retcon.

Nah, it applies to other HGW systems as well like in Strange Fake.

Will it end in your life time?

Strange Fakes grail war copied the Fuyuki ritual, mate.

As i said earlier...

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Nah, I meant "hasan".

Wow it's almost like the initial rules in Fate were a total sham on purpose or something.

>guns can't be Nobre Phantasm because anyone can mastah them!
>just like any weapon?
>err... anou...
>FGO just hads Billy the Kid

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'Twas a silly rule to begin with.

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Wasn't it planned to be 10 volumes or something?

Strange Fake is literally a bootleg of Fuyuki.

It was planned to be like 4 volumes.

4 volumes passed, and nobody even died.

>anyone can use gun, if you use it the gun is a hero, not you
>magical superweapons that shoot nuke tier beams are ok tho :^)

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Best saber coming through!

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sorry wrong image

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>4 volumes passed
5 volumes now and things aren't looking good for Gil and may be the first be on his way out

The MC from everyone else is a returnee.

*blocks your path*

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So the loophole of "literally cannot be dodged" is "just dodge it lmao"?

the loophole is 'twist fate itself so that the spear cannot connect'

>virgin cu trying to fuck with fate
>chad saber that JUST bends it harder because of LUCK
There is always bigger fish. And that's quite ironic, because his spear is made of big fish hahaha.

How is Saber ever hit by anything in that case?

It basically only cancels out things that would have hit because they bend the rules via luck or causality in some way as well.

How lucky that Saber has the one skill that is literally designed to counter the exact move Lancer was using.
And Fatefags wonder why people can't take their franchise seriously.

Scathach purposely trained him wrong...as a joke!

That's true of damn near every MC in all of anime. You can't just single out TM for that shit.

The version of his mentor in this setting, Scathach, has a version of the Gae Bolg technique that actually does that, but it requires two spears; one to paralyze the opponent (and she needs to hit them with it) and the other to strike at the now helpless foe. Cu only uses one, which makes him more flexible in combat at the cost of accuracy.

Furthermore it's a reference to how she got killed originally.

No, so unless you like constant
>ITS NOT POSSIBLE, THE HERO DID THE IMPOSSIBLE THING
Then dont watch fate, because its exactly like this fag said

Based retard.