Are catgirls and other companion races slaves? Is it ethical to make such creatures in the first place?
Are catgirls and other companion races slaves? Is it ethical to make such creatures in the first place?
Who cares? They are not human. K want a dog girl who wan wans all over my face.
Yes.
This is the correct answer.
Bawwww. Wholesome as fuck
It's handled pretty carefully in NekoPara, even for a dumb moege.
Something like Wanko to Kurasou makes everyone treat them like regular animals and it ends up creepy as fuck.
Catgirls as companions and lovers.
If they were a different race that coexisted with humans, then they should be treated as any other person. They may lack the IQ level of a human but they should have the ability to live independently in their natural habitat
However, yes, it i completely unethical to crete a race of people genetically engineered to have animal traits and low intelligence for fetish purposes.
It is, however, completely ethical to use genetic material from animals to save humans. We already have pig organs that can be transferred to humans. A highly cheaper alternative than waiting for an organ donor with the same organ compatability
Depends a lot on if you can establish personhood. The moment you do, your race is protected under laws that protect humans, with obvious conclusions to their rights and responsibilities.
The problem of course is that if you do not define them or design them as people, they cannot perform many of the tasks that would be desired of them.
They are sentient and sapient. Therefore they are a person. End of story
That's a lot cuter than it should be.
Without artificial distinctions, so are the great apes and dolphins.
We've also maintained a lack of personhood on sentient, sapient humans in our civilization.
this, but retards like this one will ruin it eventually, they will try to pull out rights of nowhere and that is why we cant have nice things
nekopara vol 4 fucking when
it's been more than 2 years
*schlop*
The Catgirls in nekopara are utterly lost without their human masters though. They wouldn't want freedom even if they understood it.
Sapience user. Sa.pi.en.ce
As in they are capable of questioning philosophy, morality, and can collapse in an existencial crisis.
Any intelligent creature capable of sapience are classified as a person
Making them artificially is wrong but if someone was just born like that it would be ok to make thousands of children that will be integrated into society
This arouses me.
Is that all? We've seen depression in these creatures as well, which suggests limited abstract thinking.
Chimps have been shown to respond with anger to unfairness, and apes have demonstrated had the necessary brainpower to communicate their feelings to their trainers.
You need a different point of division.
Dude, stop.
This was already well defined.
If a creature learned how to question philosophy of what is right and wrong and ask what is their purpose on the world, then they are a person - human or not.
This discussion could get really far though if we tackled advanced A.I and whether they can be considered a person
This can't be real. Nobody cares enough about us to rant about us
Okay, but what if I willingly chose to be a catgirl?
How do you do that?
It's a work in progress.
Can you prove conclusively that these creatures are incapable of these thoughts, or simply incapable of expressing them across species and language barriers?
Are you saying it's as simple to make a slave race as to retard their development so they lack curiosity? Can I do this after the fact by programming them to punish abstract, philosophical thinking?
Darkest corner of the internet.
Anyone able to recommend some half decent kemonomimi VNs beyond NekoPara, KARAKARA, Fox Hime, Sakura Spirit and especially WolfTails?
I don't scientists do.
They trained gorrillas sign language and how to use technology.
They are capable of learning but not a single time did they tried to ask a single question.
Ability to recognize that some creatures have knowledge you don't have is a trait of sapience
Anthro would be the more accurate term.
Fucking furry, REEEEEEEEEE.
You didn't mention Wanko to Kurasou, brush up on your classics kid.
¿que?
This better have "wanko" as advertised.
But he said half decent.
I will cut you.
The amount of blush displayed by this Mew Ichigo is very acceptable
+neko
CAT ASS
I sometimes really wonder how someone can draw such a perfect ass from imagination
That's.. a pretty weird thing to say.
You suggest the artist never saw any good asses in his life to use as a reference?
Everybody saw asses before, so nobody ever draws them purely from imagination.
Nobody created the first perfect ass.
I want to become a cute female Miqo’te
I want to lick every square inch of Vanilla's body
Pretty Kitty Titties
If only...!
Cute and funny catgirls
It depends entirely on what traits we give them. It's not unethical to keep pets or to build supercomputers. If they enjoy and accept their purrpose, there's no reason to ban it. The real sticking point is one of practicality. Any task they could be set to could be better handled by humans or machines without the same level of investment genetically engineering, incubating, raising, and integrating into society artificial life.
>no impregnation
is the author homosexual?
Futa and cunny catgirls
They aren’t slaves, they’re pets. There is a difference. Pets are meant to be cherished and loved, but are still your property.
Elon Musk will ultimately get to decide their fate though
>Futa
They're fucked.
That's the idea
I want to fuck a furry, but not be a furry.
i know it's a meme but
>wanting man arse and balls everywhere
no thanks, i'd prefer strap-ons but japan doesn't do that.
Then I will take good care of you.
That Sayori bondage picture is pretty nice.
You are forgetting an important factor beyond sapience.
Intelligence.
Sapience alone isn't enough to be considered a person, they also need human-like intelligence, something sapient animals do not have.
Niggers and imbeciles are a bit of a fringe case.
I think we can agree they should not be considered people on equal footing to average humans.
If catgirls were even less intelligent there should be no problem.
I came to post this but I'm glad some people still remember.
>companion
catpanion
Dolphins are absolutely sapient.
There are several accounts of dolphins retrieving phones that humans dropped in the ocean. Without being trained to, mind you. This might not seem like anything special but consider what has to go on in their heads to do this.
They not only need to have empathy, but they also need to be able to extend that empathy towards another species. So, they need to have a concept of "intelligence" of some kind, and be able to discover, through reason, that humans are intelligent in much the same way they are. Then they need to be able to figure out that phones are of emotional importance to humans, that they would feel bad if they lost them, that they would be incapable of retrieving them from the ocean themselves, and that the "right" thing to do is to help.
... which is why we should decriminalize dolphinfucking.
Cats and dogs and even some rodents retrieve and return things all the time without being trained to do so. That does not mean they have empathy or human intelligence. You are projecting and coming off like one of those crazy dog people that feel like they can speak to dogs and have psychically connected high intelligent relationships with their animal.
>t. Malcolm J. Brenner
>cats
I've never in my life seen or heard of a cat "retrieving" something. Investigating something thrown, sure. Giving a "gift" to their owner, yes. But retrieving something for a human's sake which expressly has no value to them? I'm skeptical, especially without training, and even with training it would be difficult with a cat.
>dogs
They retrieve because of training, either individually or via instincts built up after thousands of years of domestication.
>rats
Again, I have never heard of such a thing without training.
Can you give examples of any of these cases? Sounds like you've pulled them out of your ass. You can see the clear-cut examples with dolphins with a quick google search. It's clear that the dolphins are not simply grabbing the phones out of curiosity, but making the conscious decision to return them.
>That does not mean they have empathy
If you don't think dogs have empathy, you clearly don't know anything about this topic. That dogs have empathy is not a controversial claim and is something that just about any dog owner will know from experience. A quick peek through the literature makes it appear this idea is supported pretty unilaterally on that end as well.
>You are projecting and coming off like one of those crazy dog people that feel like they can speak to dogs and have psychically connected high intelligent relationships with their animal.
You're the one who sounds crazy by making such an off-base comparison. Pointing out the documented behavior of dolphins and offering an explanation is not remotely in the same ballpark as claiming a supernatural psychic connection to dogs.
Is that even illegal.
As far as I'm aware male dolphins are HUGE rapist.
That is why the whole swim-with-dolphins therapy stuff and whatever uses only female dolphins.
Those can become quite amorous too however and ask to be fucked.
Overall I think dolphins appreciate humans quite a bit.
Well, that takes deepthroating to a whole new level.
On a related note, genetically engineered demi-humans for domestic companionship when?
Imagine trying to spray a catgirl
Is... Is that a dolphin using a fish carcass as an onahole?
Hopefully you don't wind up with a cinnamon.
>companyan
There is not a single shred of evidence that dogs have empathy.
People I know that own cats are always angry for some reason.
But that's a lizard, not a cat.
This, but roasties would use a social justice angle to have them granted "rights" or outright ban them. Real women would be threatened in a world like Nekopara because they can no longer use their vagina as a personal asset. They would go to any extreme to rid the world of catgirls long before doing any kind of personal reflection and self improvement.
They do this IRL, examples being brothels protesting high end silicone sex dolls, the various movements to remove sexy female characters from video games hidden beneath virtuous "movements", constant whining about fanservice in anime, etc.
Life finds a way
The extremists, anyway. I’d think most women wouldn’t care or just be happy the cat fuckers aren’t being creepy.
>There is not a single shred of evidence that dogs have empathy.
Again, a cursory glance at the literature suggests otherwise. Now, you could possibly argue that despite apparent evidence, dogs actually DON'T have empathy due to flaws in the reasoning or methodology of the various studies into the topic. But to claim there is "not a single shred of evidence" is patently and unequivocally false, full stop.
>catpanyan
Yup, monkeys grab toads and use them like that as well.
Animegao kigu?
This guy talks like a fag
What if I want a cat girl to own me as a slave/pet?
This is the ideal female body.
Is that an Amazon river dolphin? Irregardless, I just have to say that what I've read about dolphins completely ruined my childhood perception of them. Highly aggressive sexual behavior and infanticide aren't exactly my thing. I would much rather a catgirl than a dolphingirl any day of the week.
Jealousy is one hell of a drug, you'd be surprised.
>Irregardless
>Irregardless
>Irregardless
lol wtf
This has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever read.
Kek, didn't mean to spell regardless like that, sorry. I got a kick out of the reactions though, great stuff.
Do moon rabbits count as demihumans?
are they biologically predisposed to be subservient (may require training)?
>Irregardless
What's wrong with Cinnamon?
Vanilla > Azuki > Maple > Chocola = Coconut > Cinnamon
WHAT'S WRONG WITH CINNAMON.
Fair point.
are there any dom nekomimi?
Post Cinnamon lewds, please.
A few.
cute ones?
Rabbits can die of loneliness, don't really know how subservient they are in their ability to work for humans though.
>infanticide
Wait what?
The males are known to kill the young to make the mother open to mating. It is a common thing in nature.
Yep.
That's a myth.
A few.
It's not; rabbits are very social animals, especially if they have bonded with another rabbit or human. They aren't 100% going to die, often times they just go into a depression. However their systems usually can't handle being depressed which leads to death.
Yea Forums related?
Me on the bottom
why is it that every single user that uses chika pictures is a massive retard?
Is it just a coincidence?
Normalfags.
lmao imagine being so clingy that you literally die because your owner abandons you
Male dolphins tend to kill the young of females to make her basically go in the mood to mate again since she no longer has young to care for. Lions do the same thing.
damn I wish I could draw
this is a great idea for an ntr h-doujin
>come home to your catgirl in heat
>can't speak properly, pounces on all nearby humans
>making loud noises and calls
>open the door
>get pinned down
>feel her hot panting as her eyes widen when her mate is found
any VNs that do this?
Blacks really do that?
>Male kills the females babies and their father
>she finds it extremely arousing and fucks the alpha dolphin in heat
Finally, some fucking good NTR.
I think I would die if I ever lost you, user.
What an asinine comment
See for yourself.
youtu.be
Rico best Dog Days.
I disagree.
It strikes me as odd that catgirls are always portrayed as subservient. Cats act like they're in charge, and rightfully so, because they know they are.
I see even PETA stopped taking PETA seriously.
Nekopara
Stupid bunny. Only good for sex appeal.
Not when they're fuckable.
>You will never have a catgirl ride you
>Is it ethical to make such creatures in the first place?
Yes.
Catgirls are too dumb to build functional societies on their own so it is best for them if they are kept as slaves. Otherwise they would just resort to crime, drug abuse, prostitution, etc. because society has no real use for them.
Hitomi was cute when she was a loli
>it i completely unethical to crete a race of people genetically engineered to have animal traits and low intelligence for fetish purposes
But would you rather have ethics or catgirls for domestic ownership?
That's not true
Bunnies are also good wives
too docile. most bunnies are pretty lethargic. Except for the sex, of course, which user mentioned.
>cutest pets
>not a single -girl piece of art
Let me tell you a story.
Why aren't cat girls real
They are. You just aren't cool enough to be in the secret society that knows of their existence and trades them.
>no anime about taming monstergirls
Why even live?
Reminder that - even though Cinnamon acts like a little bit of a whore sometimes - she's actually a very shy girl when it comes to sexual stuff.
Reminder that most of the niggers have sub 80 IQ. And they are not cute at all.
They could've been considered cute if left to live independently in their natural habitat.
The bantu is an invasive species, it's in its nature to destroy every tribe unlike him.
They genocided 3/4th of the native tribe of subsahara africa by rape murder and overbreeding.
They will never be cute.
I can never be proud to be half locust.
She's turned on by almost anything.
Dogs are sentient and sapient. They are not a person. You can beat one to death and be out in like 5 years, 3 with good behavior.
Because this world exists for us to suffer.
Based Elon
What about cyborg catgirls?
Yeah but can the catgirl have a human's baby? The important question.
Practically speaking, we'll have augmented reality long before anything physical.
I can't fucking wait.
They can't in Nekoparaverse.
>What about cyborg catgirls?
I wonder how many anons would choose to undergo neko-fication into a cute cyborg catgirl chassis?
As soon as it's available and affordable.
I wouldn’t mind having one that makes people think I’m a fully artificial robot catgirl.
Man, Shisui sets + Miqo'te will never not get me hard as fuck.
We are more likely to get this than actual catgirls but that's just for now.
AI-driven interactive VR catgirls are the future.
There's games where you can already do that, if you want a more realistic interaction you can always go to VRC.
youtu.be
That's a dude
Do cat girls run around the house at top speed in the middle of the night?
Would catgirls vomit on the carpet or on my dick?
The sad thing is, I'd really like cat girls, both for me and for the thousands upon thousands of anons out there
But I'm deadly allergic to cats, I have to carry methylprednisolone pills everywhere I go just because I might encounter a cat and start bawling my eyes out (and slowly choking)
Realistically though, it is likely that catgirls wouldn't have cat allergy proteins (mostly defensins and protectins in the skin and saliva) but the human ones
In fact, I'm 100% certain that you could raise a few girls in Fritzl style, indoctrinate them to believe they are cat girls, take their blood, isolate their DNA, genotype their HLA regions, order a few transgenic cats with that immune profile (so there is no organ refusal) then graft the cat ears and cat tails onto them and they won't need cyclosporine to not reject them
Man, this sounds like a real project, not that pussy cure cancer bullshit
Spay your catgirls.
>Man, this sounds like a real project, not that pussy cure cancer bullshit
That actually sound like something out of the Island of doctor moreau. Count me in, I'll be you Igor.
How is that a problem
Not when mute.
That must have taken half a day to do that and they only had one picture and a body full of claw marks to show for it.
I suppose at every stage you could select the most suitable candidates and then clone them, mass producing both the cat parts and the girls.
>Make a monstergirl/catgirl/doggirl/animal girl story
>Make it so humans can't get them pregnant
and into the trash it goes, I don't know how people like that stuff if you can't even have a family with the girls
But women would go extinct
that made me giggle a bit.
And that's a problem why?
The world should be only human men and cat girls
If men can't have children with the cat girls they'd go extinct too you know.
Irregardless(sic) of your spelling the dolphin girl is cute though.
We will find a way
kek user, you couldn't admit defeat more patently
Reminds me about that thread where the guy captures the rabbit couple ravaging his garden and had a particularly ferocious buck rape the female while its mate watched helplessly.
A lot of -girl settings have denoted the potential for human male offspring, even the more horrific ones like MGQ. All the have to do from there is figure out how to make it bigger.
>making his own ntr with animals
I don't want to know anymore, thank you.
see
...
male mind in a women's body is the best.
Reminder that if there are cat girls there will also be cat boys.
And?
The implication here is that in a world of humanoid canines, the primary reason wolves go extinct in much of their native range is due to miscegenation, as Wolf women are easy to please and human men are more able to do so than wolfmen.
Over humping instead of over hunting.
Doesn't matter, I'll lick her pussy either way.
>Reminder that if there are cat girls there will also be cat boys.
Yes, and?
Except that's a dudes mind in a dude's body.
She is probably the most authentically cat-like catgirl I've seen in all of anime.
Nature uuuuuuh finds a way.
The Avatar he's using is female so it's all fine, it's like fucking a genderbend.
>tfw no tall wolf oneesan
Simple, you genetically engineer them to want to be a pet. That way everyone is happy.
Well, it’s not like they have any beef against you.
Minna De Nyan Nyan
No but she is a Chinese woman.
Ass too fat
Vol 4 with sister incest fucking WHEN
Be afraid of dolphin rape caves
There's nothing wrong with human male on female anthro
God she's such a slut, i love her.
>ywn use cinammon as your personal onahole
Why would rabbits care about marijuana? If the OP was growing anything else he wouldn't be so secretive about it.
I'm glad you asked
Do you plan on getting her figure by Native?
There is literally nothing wrong with genejacks, I mean catgirls.
>ywn be a pet cat boy owned by single girl who needs something to love
Fags would love them too.
Cinnamon wasn't nearly lewd enough in Vol 3 and that felt really weird.
I wonder if Nekoplasty surgery exists in the Nekopara universe.
I really hope we get Vol 4 soon, Sayori has been doing different projects that makes me wonder if she plans on stopping any further volumes.
Not before we get her self insert being fucked by the pastry puffer and cats.
>Vol 4 comes out
>Shigure finally gets the Cashew
>Shigure does all the girls one by one as well
>Orgy with all the girls and Cashew
>"This truely is a Neko Paradise."
Bravo Sayori.
A world where we love each other unconditionally is the best world.
We kinda also need to wait a bit more for the anime.
I even forgot about it.
Announcement was on December, we got till probably the end of the year for it.
sauce? yandex and wait got nothin
I didnt even know Nekopara was getting a TV anime. Full episodes or shorts?
Stop wasting my fun, user. I'm not supposed to feel bad when playing such a cute visual novel.
Surprised user doesn't recognize Murenase Shiiton Gakuen.
Having that sort of rules the discussion isn't as different as with the AI's, you just want someone to be with you anytime and be the target of your love and be loved. While having a family and kids sounds nice there are people who don't even bother with kids, of course having a Holo scenario is the best but again it depends of the setting.
>Mangaupdates
Catgirls with human ears are cosplayers.
Sayori agreed, don’t argue with her about it.
twitter.com
Full, who knows if it's going to be from where the OVA left off or if it's going to be a fresh start but it should be full.
Sayori's art is so godly. And there's so much Nekopara stuff that's not scanned/will never see the light of day on the internet.
Is this series still going? I dropped after hiatus.
It is, there's threads every week, yesterday there was one about a .5 chapter.
God i love the nekos, i should play it again.
Mainecoons are my favorite cat.
Vol 2 girls are so good in Vol 3, love Coconut and Azuki.
I hope you are looking forward to her figure.
Catgirls and other companion races are just a comfortable way to fantasize about having sex with the mentally subnormal. Body of an adult, mind of a child.
I don't understand people who think like this.
Fuck off super devil, i’l Have you know my Kemonomimi are perfect mature and sound of mind.
>friends being sound of mind
I’ll have you know that my wife is an accomplished author and super smart friend.
I see.
Well at least she’s smarter than her sister Mayo.
Tezuka Ryouko only make it better.
But that's wrong you fucking retard.
Maple = Coconut > Vanilla > Azuki = Chocola = Cinnamon
Dog Girls > Cat Girls
>tfw no cute woflgirl gf
I love kemonomimi.
Nice Thread
>[Angry Cat Noises]
Everytime I see pics like this I get reminded my cat died on January.
Mine ran because my retard parents just fucking love open doors
Mahou Nekos
So you'd really be rolling the dice if you underwent the gene therapy to become a cat boy I suppose
>this is how I perceive things
>it must mean everyone else thinks exactly the same way
quit projecting, you creep
>Usagi Chan De Cue
Koshka is best catgirl:
Maple cutest cat
Cute as fuck
sorry user i hope you feel better
Me on the bottom right.
bully the catgirls!
>Are catgirls and other companion races slaves? Is it ethical to make such creatures in the first place?
not anime or manga
abuse the catgirls!
kill yourself nigger!
Imagine what we could have if morels and ethics didn't get in the way of progress.
Ayn Rand has some books on that. The outcome is less than optimal.
>Yesterday
Fuck I need to figure out the release scheduke for this.
I don't care about the consequences. I just want cute catgirls that will cuddle and purr when I rub their heads.
They may keep too much cat instinct though. What if they bring you the dead neighbors dog or child as a present because you suck at hunting.
She'd be an indoor catgirl, obviously.
But there's two problems with that:
1) Her books are fictional
2) She's a woman
Ever hear of another book by a woman, Handmaid's Tale? Dumb cunt doesn't even understand misogyny. All the infertile bitches would get the straight up sex slave treatment to appease lower class men who don't have the means to wife up fertile ones.
>his girlfriend left him
They always say that, until someone leaves the door or window open.
If for some reason i get myself mainecoon, can i fuck it? Is mainecoon big enough?
I don't care if it's ethical or not.
I'm a little better now but I feel like part of me died with him since he was very attached to me and ran with me to the mail just to nag at me to pick him up and carry him back.
manofculture.jpg
>dystopia
sure, buddy
>gif
Wished the show had less restrictions when it was made.
Yes and that's a good thing; here's why
why
Did anyone find Kuromitsu from Kyoukai no Rinne to be unbelievably sexy?
I kept fantasizing so much about being her master and banging her over every piece of furniture in the house inorder to relieve all the day’s stress.
I mean dat China dress, unf
Catgirls are Justice!
For me it's squid girls.
What about babydolls?
How the fuck is becoming a brainwashed cockslave wholesome and cute?
What?
Since when were under the impression that you were the master of your pets?
You literally work to feed them. groom them, and pick up their poop for them. You're the slave.
She's clearly happy so what's the issue.
I feel like that top image should be on the bottom.
I feel like I should be on the bottom.
Oh I'll put you on the bottom where you belong, bitch.
or maybe the OP just wanted to say fuck you. Not exactly uncommon on this website.
goddamn i wish i were chocola
Only if I get to be Vanilla.
i aint sharing masters dick tho
Da nya~
Wrong user, that's C.C in a cosplay cat.
How do they grab stuff?
I wish I was fucking Chocola.
I wish I was a kigu Chocola
yes, maybe
just go away, sjw
>Usagi-chan De Cue - and thus Koshka - existed way before Code Geass did
I think you've fallen down the wrong rabbit hole, user.
...and in b4 'WHOOOSH!' & all that being proved wrong-excuse BS
...but C-heshire C-at makes for a sexy kitty, though.
She is so hot in those heels
Strongest anus in the world.
Because she's a sexy cat witch.
She is her own familiar
Nya~
MoarBig
Hail Green Pussy
I want to give cinnamon headpats so badly.
Dolphins are probably Demon level on the chart. They actually cruise around in groups to prey on other animals where they beat them to death and rape the body.
What do you mean "dom"? A dominatrix in a masochist couple or a plain sadist one?
Would knocking up a catgirl produce another catgirl/boy or a hybrid?
This is important.
Glad you like. Have a Koshka:
Thanks for reminding me it updated.
Need to check it out now.
...and how could we forget the catgirl maid in UFO Princess Walkure...?!:
I'll never forget Sanada's sanadas
She's on Yea Forums as we speak:
Nyan~
More of Sanada's sanadas:
Pretty Kitty Titties
Fuck, I remember this now. Did the ending piss someone off badly or did I misremember?
Knocking up catgirls only produces more catgirls. This is a scientific fact.
where to find nekopara DL?
They commented recently on the state of Steam to something to the degree of "it puts a hamper on Vol 4 plans" so it's definitely in the works
dont fucking tell me they want to go to EGS
>EGS bitching
. Only faggots care about the digital storefront they are buying from.
I misss that show, it was fun and had tons of cat maids.