I’ll never understand why people dunk on this show

I’ll never understand why people dunk on this show.

Sure, it’s not the same thing as the original BGC, and the music is nowhere near as notable, but by itself it’s not just acceptable, it’s -good-.

The animation, outside of a few rough episodes, is good for a TV anime. Obviously it can’t measure up to it’s OVA predecessor, but it’s still very solid.

The overall plot is more coherent than the original, plus it, you know, actually has a conclusion.

The characters are, largely, better and more complex. For example, Linna has a personality. Sylia being batshit fucking crazy explains aspects of her character.

Watch Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040.

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For me it's like the Stand Alone Complex to BGC's original GitS.
Also you probably won't get many responses here unfortunately, try /m/

Does BGC really qualify as /m/? I guess it would.

I kinda get what you’re saying about GitS, but I’ve never seen SAC so not really.

>Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2041 never ever

I really like it.

Good, you have good taste

The OST is very nice on its own way. I didn't watch the OVAs, am I missing very much?

Yeah.

Does it share the same aesthetics and themes like 2040?

Art was too different from the original.
I couldn't watch it for that reason alone.

Nope.

It is very unlikely Kenichi Sonoda would have sold in 1998, after AIC fucked him over.

Sell me the OVAs then.

Suits are similar. Aesthetics are much more 80s and more dark. Lots of it’s DNA is from Terminator and Bladerunner.

Watch it though. Skip Crash.

Very high budget if initially a little amateurish animation. 10/10 character designs. Amazing music. Lots of tech porn.

this was one of the first anime i watched, loved the style and ED, this and GITS got me interested in cyberpunk
except the series itself felt kind of empty, nothign happened, and they didn't try to world-build
not really sure what it was made for, maybe for fap material and girls being drawn as doujinshi who knows

Are you talking about 2040 or the original? Shit definitely goes down in 2040.

I mean it’s still good though imo. It’s not the same but has it’s own merit.

so many split ends

>10/10 character designs
they all have the same hair cut

.....
oh my god
i just found out that it has 26 episodes
the tv station only aired the first fucking season
ARGHHHHHH

>The overall plot is more coherent
If I wanted coherent I wouldn't be watching niche cyberpunk cartoons from a country on the other side of the planet.

Am I the only one that appreciates the nonsense of Genocyber?

>female griffiths

Fuck dude you gotta finish it lol

Genocyber had music by Akira Takasaki from Loudness and Lazy. It is worth the try for that reason alone.

They definitely don’t at all, what?

Damn man look at Linna and Sylia, are you saying they have remotely the same hair?

It only had one season.

When you take a mediocre show and make it worse even the most hardcore of fans will be upset.

???????

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Cyberpunk is well at it’s best when it’s coherent

big fluffy mess

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That’s a whole different statement

Please, when has such a thing ever happened? Maybe Appleseed? Cyberpunk is best when you think you're reading/watching high-fantasy or something and then programming language starts showing up 20 volumes/episodes in.

they aired half of it then replaced it with something else
might've been eva reruns
fuck it all 15 years gone

Bladerunner 2049 GitS ‘95 Alita Cyber City are all coherent

I'm a huge fan of the original. When I finally watched the new show, I was surprised it was actually enjoyable.Not comparable to the original at all but still fun to watch.

Alita gets pretty incoherent later on though, I wouldn't call GitS the best either outside of aesthetics.

I choose to believe Last Order + doesn’t exist and forget about the kung-fu space vampire and such

GitS ‘95’s strongest element is it’s narrative imo

Is that Griffith is a body suit

Also Streets of Fire.

I want /m/ to leave.

I’ve never actually seen Streets of Fire. I know it had a huge cultural impact in Japan at the time, I should really check it out

What the fuck is even occurring in Mars Chronicles?

You should, it's nice 80s cheese. The opening scenes from BGC are practically ripped from the movie, it's really hard not to notice

Other than the bikes, where are their robots? The hard suits are not piloted.

I agree. I like this show. It's far from perfect, it definitely has it's flaws but it's a decent piece of animation.

Power Armor is /m/

The original is a really cool animation experiment. 2040 is a generic and unmemorable TV series.

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>The hard suits are not piloted.
? Yeah they are. So are the K suits, and the Motoslave. Did you mean the boomers?

The point is that this same thread is on /m.

Can you pilot power armor?

I this one obari and pubeaster worked together

I didn't saw the original OVA. I saw the TV anime. I liked it. It made me curious about space when they talked about how out there you don't see the stars glittering because the glitter comes from the atmosphere.

Yes?

Even if not, K-suits make it /m/

Yeah I did that because this dude suggested it and the thread seemed dead, my bad

That's a long arm.

I've never seen the original OVAs, just 2040 and I found it to be incredibly mediocre. Which is a shame because the setting and characters have a ton of potential, but I was ultimately let down.

>What the fuck is even occurring in Mars Chronicles?
Flashback namek, basically.

(OP)
>The characters are, largely, better and more complex.
No.
>Linna has a personality.
A pretty boring one. The original Linna was fun to be around and a bro.
>Sylia being batshit fucking crazy explains aspects of her character.
It doesn't explain shit. It just changed everything about her. Sylia was supposed to be calm a collected. She was a true leader to the group. The 2040 version was pathetic.

I always really liked it.

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Her hand actually ends before the suit’s hand. The fingers are independent of her anatomy

The original Linna has like two fucking lines, take off your nostalgia goggles

2040 Sylia is an infinitely more complex and interesting character than the OG and her arc actually went somewhere.

The original is a fantastic spectacle and maybe better than 2040 for it, but it loses out hard in these departments.

When we will get more cyberpunk anons?

>The original Linna has like two fucking lines, take off your nostalgia goggles
The hell you're talking about? There are at least two episodes focused on her, user. Sure it can't compare to all the screentime she got in the tv show, but it was enough to flew out her character just fine.
>2040 Sylia is an infinitely more complex and interesting character than the OG and her arc actually went somewhere.
She's just crazy. That's not complexity.
>The original is a fantastic spectacle and maybe better than 2040 for it, but it loses out hard in these departments.
No.

Psychopass was only—[checks watch]

Fuck I’m old.

I guess there was that Bladerunner prequel, does that count?

Nah man. She had one episode about her dead friend. 2040 Linna has more character two episodes in. OG Linna is fine, yeah. She’s there, she’s cute, she might be a lesbian maybe and... that’s about it. If you wanna say OG has better characters, you’d better not pin your hopes on Linna.

2040 Sylia -is- complicated. She’s crazy for a reason. She desperately seeks affection from Nigel and others because of her daddy issues (I love how this is subtly illustrated by her leaving to change into slut gear when he shows up early on). She’s so desperate to undo her father’s mistakes that she doesn’t realize she’s making some of the same ones. She’s a bitch, and maybe irredeemable in some ways, and that’s what makes her interesting.

>No.
Yes.

>2040 Linna has more character two episodes in.
She has more screentime but her characterization is boring shit. She's the typical character who doesn't want to be normal. That's why she left the countryside and went to the city to live on her own, and why she was drawn to Priss and wanted to be part of the group. But despite wanting not wanting to be normal, she's still awfully ordinary and boring, personality-wise.
>She had one episode about her dead friend
And that alone makes her more interesting than 2040 Linna. Original Linna is not running away from normalcy. She's in the group just for the money. Yet, when that girl died (they were just acquaintances, not friends) Linna was willing to fight despite the fact she wasn't gonna get any money for that, which goes against her stated motivation of being in it just for the money. That was really interesting.
>If you wanna say OG has better characters, you’d better not pin your hopes on Linna.
You just don't pay attention.
>2040 Sylia -is- complicated. She’s crazy for a reason. She desperately seeks affection from Nigel and others because of her daddy issues (I love how this is subtly illustrated by her leaving to change into slut gear when he shows up early on). She’s so desperate to undo her father’s mistakes that she doesn’t realize she’s making some of the same ones. She’s a bitch, and maybe irredeemable in some ways, and that’s what makes her interesting.
It doesn't make her interesting. It's just pathetic. Original Sylia went trough basically the same thing (even being experimented on as suggested by Largo), yet she didn't go crazy because she had to take care of Mackie who wasn't a fucking robot in the original. That's more interesting in my opinion since it shows a great deal of inner strength. Crazy is boring, there's nothing interesting about it.

2012 was only... s-seven years ago? That can't be right!?

Cyberpunk fell out of vogue because how niche the setting is, now that a lot of modern tech has surpassed a lot of the original cyberpunk's wildest ambitions

7th Garden was getting pretty cyberpunky before the hiatus. Mad Chimera World is kinda. I'm sure there's others that I can't remember.

You and I are clearly looking for totally different things in characters. Strength is a great trait in a real person but it doesn’t always make for an interesting character. 2040 Sylia is a huge unlikable bitch but you can see exactly what the sources of all her problems are. There’s more going on behind her.

Similarly with Linna. Maybe she’s more annoying, but her struggles to find a place she belongs and her questions about her sexuality are more complicated than “might not charge to find her friend’s killer” (which isn’t really dwelled on at all outside of a brief exchange). Honestly who WOULDN’T behave like OG Linna in her situation?

The OG characters aren’t bad, but the 2040 characters have actual arcs

It’s definitely back in the Zeitgeist. In just the few years we had major Alita, GitS and Bladerunner productions. Games have had stuff like Detroit Become Human and Watchdogs (not that either is very good). On a smaller scale, there’s VA-11 HALL-A.

Nier Automata isn’t a cyberpunk setting but it plays with some of the same transhumanistic ideas.

Honestly I think it’s more relevant than it has been in a long time. Corporations gain more control over our lives, we see ads every moment of the day, the internet is ubiquitous, surveillance is inescapable—all major elements of the classic cyberpunk setting.

Yeah I was thinking about Japan, but its certainly re-surging in Western media.
Can't wait for Cyberpunk 2077 even though I don't play vidya anymore (and thought W3 was shite writing-wise) I might get a high-end setup just cause

Based Chiaki J. Konaka.

Cyberpunk will return to glory soon.

We live in Cyberpunk setting now. No need to represent it on any medium anymore.

Honestly we're gonna be living cyberpunk soon anyways. Exoskeletons and AR glasses will be commonplace within 10 years.
Commercial grade exoskeletons are actually pretty cheap considering. I have a labor-intensive job, and its only like 1/4th of my yearly salary to buy a one.

I hadn’t considered the writer. Pretty good resume, I’ll have to check out his Toku stuff.

>You and I are clearly looking for totally different things in characters. Strength is a great trait in a real person but it doesn’t always make for an interesting character. 2040 Sylia is a huge unlikable bitch but you can see exactly what the sources of all her problems are. There’s more going on behind her.
It's good for a character to have an internal conflict as long as you're taking it somewhere. 2040 didn't do shit with Sylia. She hardly grew at all. The conflict ended up ruining the character instead of giving her depth.
Original Sylia was pretty much an static character, but she was great as the strong leader of the group all the same, and that was enough to made her interesting.
>Similarly with Linna. Maybe she’s more annoying, but her struggles to find a place she belongs and her questions about her sexuality are more complicated than “might not charge to find her friend’s killer” (which isn’t really dwelled on at all outside of a brief exchange).
Leaving the sexuality aside (I don't know where you got that) I don't find her lack of interest in a normal life interesting at all. It's such a mundane problem I don't give a fuck, honestly.
>Honestly who WOULDN’T behave like OG Linna in her situation?
Linna herself pretty much said she wouldn't do something like that, but in the end she did. That was the fucking point of the episode.
>The OG characters aren’t bad, but the 2040 characters have actual arcs
There is no point in having character arcs if you're not doing anything with them. The only interesting aspect of the tv show was how Nene had to deal with the fact that Mackie was as fucking robot, but even then the show didn't go as in-depth as I would have liked.

The show had a lot of potential but it ended up largely mediocre.

I feel like it’s almost the opposite; half that shit wound up true and it’s even more relevant now than it originally was

I'd love to see a chinese take on cyberpunk.

I don’t think it’d last two seconds on the market. Too on the nose.

I can’t agree at all with you on pretty much any of this. Most of it I’ll leave aside because I don’t think we’ll ever agree (again, I think we’re looking for entirely different things). Linna might say she wouldn’t work for free but no one actually shies away from their self interests like that, man.

I do wanna say though that the show really heavily suggests that Linna’s lesbo. OG maybe lightly, but 2040 almost outright. Nene calls her on it even when they’re discussing the origins of the hardsuits.

My ten years old thoughts on 2040:
- OL Linna is a good main character and a huge improvement over the original
- I like blonde Nene too
- On the other hand, macho Leon is fucking awful and is completely devoid of charisma, he's the worst part of the show.
- I love the horror influences. There's some great episodes with boomers acting as if it was a zombie movie, like that part in the police station.
- The plot is bonkers, it gets quite convulated and insane towards the end (both a good and bad thing)
- Animation is serviceable, and I don't remember anything about the soundtrack. That really sucks compared to the OVAs.

All in all, it's an ok anime, but still pretty forgettable. The OVAs were all (awesome) style over substance, but the tv show doesn't add enough substance to make up for the loss of style. Also the original had vampire lesbian androids from space.

Western take on cyberpunk was that the chinese would assimilate their culture as the West did globally, and it seems like its on track for that to happen.

Off the top of my head a cyberpunk Manhua would be School Shock, i'm pretty sure I've read a few others. Its usually just china but even more totalitarian and a harsher class divide. Lots of "special districts"

>Linna might say she wouldn’t work for free but no one actually shies away from their self interests like that
Linna approached that girl to get information on the murder of her boyfriend. They weren't friends, and there was no reason for Linna to take her death personal, considering her characterization. Note Linna was always complaining about Priss getting too emotionally involved and always taking action on her own. What this episode showed is that despite everything Linna said and all her complains about Priss, she actually wasn't any different from Priss.

I think you need to rewatch m8

*Geneshaft

Original Linna has more than two lines, or did you forget her arcs with Irene and Reika?

The messed up part about 2040 Sylia is that the series took up the plotline of Dr Stingray experimenting on his children and using them for post mortem revenge as hinted in Grand Mal and the unfinished parts of Crash, but kinda half assed it and left Largo out..

>macho Leon is fucking awful and is completely devoid of charisma

i have to ask, subs or dubs? because this is one of a handful of shows that i always recommend the dubs on, it was done at the (admittedly modest) height of ADV's work and Leon's character in particular is wonderful. the english va even ad-libbed lines that made it into other translations because they were just so right.

also gay daley. priceless.

>no one posted the op yet
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I wish we had a Bubblegum Crisis sequel than a 2040 remake.

Both of them are good and deserve more projects without Ishii's involvement.

I wish but there is no profit to revive a dead IP.

Stream when?

>I wish but there is no profit to revive a dead IP.
City Hunter would like to ask you a question.

>I wish but there is no profit to revive a dead IP.
There are ton of examples reviving dead IP's.

I don't think the guys in charge would even approach to grasp what made the ovas and the animes interesting on its own.

Doubt, but I wouldn't count on it and I heard City Hunter and CSS sequel did pretty well on their own.

FUCKING WHEN

I can't really verify but I remember either reading it or hearing on some commentary track that 2040 was actually funded in part by ADV so they'd have something to front load on their network.

What was Galatea's problem?

It was my first animu.

Going to rewatch it someday.

The original GitS upsets me more each time I watch it, but I doesn't help that it's always been the dub a couple of those times in an attempt to show it to someone else. The dialogue really falls flat when have to hear deadpan delivery of (what I hope is a) mediocre translations, but at least I find something new to appreciate about the animation each time.

SAC is great, probably stronger than Psychopass (which has a stronger overall narrative, but is held back by the gimmicky nature of its universe).

2040 was a drawn out mess that was more concerned with dramfrom Galatea and her brother than the plot of the show itself.
Hot girls in mechs fighting bad guys. 2032 and 2033 managed to get it right. I think they just made a mistake making it a two cour show instead of an OVA like the others. It dragged on a lot, for basically no value. Not to mention the ending was stupid.

I'm gad you brought this up.

IMO this is one of those specific cases where the English dub ellipses the Japanese voices and results in something vastly more memorable.

> For example, Linna has a personality.
Like I was saying, this is honestly only true in the dub. Japanese Lina comes off like some JAV star who's pretending to be interested in shit for the camera but otherwise would be a total normie, it comes off as totally unconvincing. English Lina comes off as a total weirdo, but this actually ends up being far more fitting for her. On the whole, the dub voices of Lina, Nene and Celia have way more personality than their Jap counterparts, and this basically makes the show far more watchable in English. I'd happily consider it to be among the top 10 dubbing jobs, given the comparatively weak source material. Good lord Nene's rasp just works so well for her.

Anyway, as much as it allows for a far more involved plot, musically, it really can't compare to the OVA, and this is such a big deal. Priss is also a total sourpuss in 2040, while she completely carries 2030 and has an amazing relationship with Leon, possibly the best couple in anime. 2040 just cannot make anything like that work.

I'd love to see some new version of the series that actually has both a proper plot and development along with the AESTHETIC that the OVA has. But save for that, I feel I just have to accept that all versions of the show were about style before anything else and that it never really amounted to something genuinely great, unfortunately.

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I like 2040 but the one thing I do absolutely hate about it is hardass Priss completely out of the blue turns into head over heels in love school girl just because Leon helped her once ~20 episodes in. It feels horribly tacked on.

>i have to ask, subs or dubs? because this is one of a handful of shows that i always recommend the dubs on

I completely agree that this is one of the few shows that really has to be watched in dub. But even then Leon is just pathetic compared to his OVA incarnation, even if he's not an outright awful character in his own right.

It's honestly more enjoyable on rewatch, given it's directed to be as unnecessarily confusing as possible.

This.

Daddy issues.

the only chapter i remember is the one of the guy that got cucked so hard that after he die a robot want to avenge him

I dunno, I like 2040 Leon a lot more. I feel like he’s got more going on, and his cop autism is more endearing. Could be the dub’s fault.

>Good lord Nene's rasp just works so well for her.

I should find Hillary Haag’s voice annoying, but fir some reason I find it attractive and endearing. I have no idea why.

He was already getting cucked pre death

Nah that ain’t true at all. She softens up to him over time, particularly after he discovers her identity and doesn’t turn her in. I don’t honestly feel like she’s ever portrayed as being that into him regardless.

That's the original one.

So should I watch it in US dub?

What's your favorite track from the OST?

Yeah not him but I recommend

The OP

What's the problem with the japanese original voices? I watched this anime in another dub

Nothing really, just unremarkable characterization compared to the English dub, which is very solid in that department, both the script and the acting.

Seriously? What assures me they did a good job at traslating the lines. This is very important for the experience specially for this kind of series.

I don’t speak enough moon to say for sure but I don’t think there are any large gaps.

Fuck off dubfags

Did you watch it with subs?

Me too.

Watched it at a young age and couldn't understand much of the series. A few years later I watched it again but now I feel capable of understanding much more now.

Dub good

Always though of Sylia being the hottest but after seeing her shit, I realized 'Priss' was the best.

>bubblegum crisis tokyo 2040 - ost 1
>track 20 - you're in the battlefield
>track says in spanish: "señores y señoras, nosotros tenemos más influencia en sus hijos, que ustedes tienen"
>in english it would closer to 'ladies and gentleman, we have more influence on your children than you have'
What the fuck did they mean by this?

I hope this gets on netflix and somehow it jumpstarts a sequel.

It is a Jane's Addiction sample (really).

youtube.com/watch?v=IzDQ9OB-9ZY

Wew.

Some songs in the sound track seem to be inspired by western alternative rock.

youtube.com/watch?v=oIzNXGYF6lA

This one sounds a little like Korn. Tokyo 2040 was out at the height of Korn with Follow the Leader. Maybe coincidence.

Yes.

Priss is best girl in my eyes, but honestly I just want a woman who can beat the everloving shit out of me, so I might be biased. Nene and Linna are both great too. Sylia is the kind of crazy it doesn’t pay to stick your dick in.

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>Sylia is the kind of crazy it doesn’t pay to stick your dick in.
Considering what happened to her family and her. It is understandable why she is like that.

Oh yeah, for sure. Still.

I would Galatea though.

The ED is legendary.

It seems it was more than daddy issues.

She even sings it in a small part briefly.

I’ll be waiting for you
I need your love everyday

For what purpose?

I wonder what would happen when a 'goddess' realize she can give birth to life literally.

Literally all the episode titles are names of 60s/70s/80s rock songs.

So they had the US market on sight since the very beginning for this anime, right?

Remove boomers.

Sylia please.

It's really on Netflix anyway.

Anime was already mainstream since the 80s through Toonami and today.

>american dub
>good

This.

I haven't read through this thread but can I say how amazed I am that we got a full thread about Bubblegum Crisis going? Honestly, I'm shocked

So what was the deal with Mason? Why was he kissing boomers left and right?

We don’t really get to learn enough about him. I just assume he gets off on doing whatever he likes to something he hates.

OP here
I’m as shocked as anyone. There’s some taste left in Yea Forums‘s veins, it seems.

I find funny the fact that someone crazy enough could create a literally god just like Dr. Stingray. Just to talk about the monkeys some chinese scientist modified genetically in order to get them intelligent and thus creating another species.

>skip crash.
What do you mean?

Bubblegum Crash is fucking awful.

We need more hardsuit animu.

What are the others?

You wish.

We wish more hardsuit and armor suit anime.

Good wish

Guyver, I guess

So what was the reason 2041 never came to be? How much floped 2040?

Internal politics with ADV Films and AIC.

So Genom was the one who caused the earthquake in order to stop Sotai regardless of the consequences?

So the future of this franchise is up the one who buys the IP rights?

Japan has a fucked up legal system.

Oof.

>Hot girls in mechs fighting bad guys. 2032 and 2033 managed to get it right. I think they just made a mistake making it a two cour show instead of an OVA like the others. It dragged on a lot, for basically no value. Not to mention the ending was stupid.
I think it made some sort of sense. Guys does shit. Creates a superior liform and then becomes a literal god for both humans and boomers which probably hints humans will evolve to Galatea's state.

I'm not afraid to admit I like the 2040 hardsuit designs more than the originals.

Based and 2040pilled.

I dont want a fucking remake like the Kuroko space Jam of galactic heroes.

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As long you stay away from remakes then you're good.

Based Yuu Asskawa

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>Nailkaizer
>The fucking tri-d
> Was directed by Obari
I wonder if his actual wife has a fcuking penis

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City Hunter treatment could make it work.

>City Hunter treatment could make it work.

user didn't seen the new movie that much more successful than Code Geass disaster.

I'm still seething about this from seeing it for the first time as a 13 year old on SBS on Saturday nights

>She divorced because her husband don wanted do anlal
Fucking Morikubo!

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Her girlfriend Rei Mizuna(ex JAV star) much better sex and perform good anal on Asanee.

Asanee is an absolute sex goddess in bed. Morikubo couldn't handle that type of women who craves sex.

Color me shocked.

Go on.....

She's an actual freak in bed.

Source

If you see her twitter in her relationship with Rei and others than you know what I mean.

What's her twitter

twitter.com/Julia320

Holy shit.

Nice.

Mint.

This.

The new designs were a mistake.

What do you mean?

CG sucks and the fans meanwhile City Hunter movies is getting excellent praise and their rumors of a second movie announced soon.

>Seriously? What assures me they did a good job at translating the lines.

I'm the user who posted and I watch unsubbed RAWs from the 70s. I can assure you that you aren't missing anything by not watching it in Japanese.

The dub actually adds extra lines that weren't there in the original, but in this case this is completely warranted and they're absolutely in the right to basically change the characters' personalities for the better, given how lackluster the original 2040 characters are. The plot, general developments etc. are all in tact, it isn't the kind of dub that would fuck up shit like that for the sake of it, but it takes just enough leeway to improve the flow of the dialogue and how the characters interact, and that makes it all the more watchable.

Going back to the Jap version after seeing the dub just feels a little weird. It's like, there's nothing outright wrong with it, but it just lacks that oomph of personality that it needs to feel like something more special than a generic late 90s anime trying way too hard to be like Evangelion.

>Watched it at a young age and couldn't understand much of the series.

I had the same experience. I chalk it up to how pretentious the direction is. It actually has a fairly straightforward plot, but it constantly cuts to scenes in ways that break logical flow and only make sense once you have time to process what was actually going on.

For instance, early in the series, Lina goes through this simulation sequence before she gets her hardsuit, and footage from the simulation gets interspersed with regular scenes in ways that make it seem like she actually did stuff she didn't, unless you pay attention. There's no actual reason to do this I can think of apart from making everything far more confusing than necessary, but it just does shit like this anyway seemingly for the hell of it.

The best kinda hair style.

Nice.

Well I guess to watch the movies then.

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I was talking about the themes.

>and the music is nowhere near as notable
At least three of the songs are better tha in the original. Is this thread a cry for attention ?

Which ones?

>something more special than a generic late 90s anime trying way too hard to be like Evangelion.
Does it really feel like that?

That’s a pretty spicy take, I’m also curious which ones

I think that is some translations errors.

Not him, but I like many tracks from the OST.

>the themes

What themes?

>translations errors.

What translation errors?

youtube.com/watch?v=fLIX8_9fEFc

Netflix adaptation with a diversity cast and a tranny. Capitalist white male as big bad and all the girls will be lesbians (including the tranny)

>Netflix adaptation with a diversity cast and a tranny. Capitalist white male as big bad and all the girls will be lesbians (including the tranny)

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I mean half the characters are lgbt anyways

>Linna
Les

>Sylia
Bi as fuck

>Daley
Gay

>Priss
Motorcycle-sexual

>Priss
>Motorcycle-sexual

She also fucked Sylvie.

Especially that last one
m.youtube.com/watch?v=zVq7WoflC6k

Quads.

Quads say Priss fucks motorcycles

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>Capitalist white male as big bad
This is pretty much the entire cyberpunk genre my man, and definitely BGC.

Don't forget at least a mandary non-white / non-hispanic / non-asian character.

>She also fucked Sylvie.
Priss fucked Sylvie holy shit, when was this in the original or 2040?

Visionary.
Netflix BTFO.

>gif

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The original.

Why didn't it happen in 2040?

I don't think Sylvie was in 2040 at all.

The ending scene of the anime was very kino and the subtlety about the future relationship between humans and boomers was something fascinating. In the end, Galatea truly become a goddess.

Shame.

Perhaps it was a saved character for 2041.

It was a very good show

Very interesting considering considering it aired and the end of the 90s.

People have mentioned 2041 a couple of times in this thread, was that going to be a thing?

It was stated to be in production but then no more news. It's also makes sense because Galatea enabled somehow Humans and Boomers to interact beyond physical means. Guess what? Mason was turned into something both humand AND boomer and with galatea particles (let's call it that way) on the earth at the end of the series the natural step for 2041 was for the Knight Sabers to deal with this new version of Mason just like in the ovas.

>tfw no adult female protagonist anymore

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Josei series have them.

Original anime series specially with this kind of plot.

I was already tired of teen protags when I was a teen

My favorite tracks from the OST
>OST 1
>04 - Phank It Up
>06 - A Mood in Bossa
>07 - 10;30 AM
>09 - Instinctive
>10 - Hick It Up
>14 - Panic-Attack
>15 - River Flows
>16 - Solo
>18 - The Hacker
>19 - Rebel Asia
>20 - You're in the Battlefield
>OST 2
>01 - Time
>02 - Caravan Blue
>03 - Sheer Greed
>05 - Mood in Dub
>06 - Lean on You
>07 - Frozen
>09 - Me & Captain America
>10 - Such a Funny Think
>12 - Innocence
>14 - Momentary Visions
>15 - Sad Song
>16 - The Runner
>17 - Armagedon
>18 - Very Normaldays

>Koichi Korenaga: Guitar, Programming, Bass, Keyboards and MC
>Haruki Hiraishi: Loops, Break Beats and Programming
>Saji: Turntable and FX
>Hideki Kodera: Pro-Tools Operating and Mixing

Almost nu metal and industrial metal.

Considering what said, perhaps many of these track has that spirit.

He keeps composing
vgmdb.net/artist/7687

>BUBBLEGUM CRISIS COLLECTORS FILE 1999
How the fuck no one told me about this!?

The hell? Is that Ifurita on the right?

I thought they are gonna make more BGC remakes and spinoffs. Where are they now?

One day.

You mean sequels. There no need for remakes none whatsoever.

Only Yuri and Josei shows have them. All I want is Mahou Shoujo MC Mom and Daughter together never.

>Only Yuri and Josei shows have them
But the plot pivots around a different subject compared to this series. I wanted to say more adult characters in general not in a romantic series.

Nice tracks.

Otakus don't like adults.

>rio natsuki op's ver.

F F F F F
F
F F F F F
F
F

I think Linna is for me.

>Otakus don't like adults.

And adults don't like them either, big whoop.

It's an endless cycle of hate. It's a shame this industry was taken over by the otaku but at the same time the ones who make it survive.

>It's an endless cycle of hate.

and it will kill us greatly. I feel very uncertain for the future of anime.

I barely watch anime nowadays In fact, I am getting into other artistical mediums and pick up a few originals and some adaptations whenever the persons involved have a good record of works. Expect more CG anime in the future though.

Underrated as fuck.

>Sylia being batshit fucking crazy
That's one aspect 2040 did really, really well. Sylia's backstory and character.
Being a 'good girl' and allowing her father to experiment on her; giving her a deep brain implant meant to assist in his development of intelligent artificial life, just because she wanted some attention. Then ending up side-railed in favor of said artificial life (Galatea) once succes was achieved. And meanwhile that implant continues to fuck with her; makes her (even more) mentally unstable; and is likely to at one point outright kill her.
All in all, the crazy is kind of relatable. Which makes it all the better.

>Expect more CG anime in the future though.
I hope it won't happen but now it's definitely possible. The industry is gonna to turn for the worse.

Underrated in Japan. Not so much with the English viewers.

Get used to it.

Who?

>Get used to it.
No.You're the exact problem to why the anime industry is crashing down.

Motorcycle and Bisexual. She did start warning toward leon in both series

Nene already hits that since shes russian.

>All I want is Mahou Shoujo MC Mom and Daughter together

Unironically SuperS

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>Underrated in Japan.

Not really. In Japanese the characters were awful and Japan rightly rejected what was a show with a dull as fuck cast and little of the spark of the 2032 series.

The series is 'iconic' in English because:

a) It was one of the first 'mature' series to come out and be aired on TV at the height of anime's transition to mainstream popularity

b) It actually has personality to it and is one of the like, five anime with superior voice direction in English

It's like, you're not completely wrong, but the Japs similarly aren't going to have the same degree of fondness for something like Black Lagoon either, and I don't blame them. It's just always going to be one of those things that westerners will remember fondly that Japan threw on the scrapheap years ago.

It's almost sad to think about, but even if the series were to be 'rebooted', most of the characters would likely continue to have as little personality as they always actually did because anyone in charge of it would naturally have no idea.

I will never understand why this was cancelled.

I’ve never watched the sub but is this really the reason why opinions on the series vary so wildly? That would explain a lot. People expect dubs to be bad and might not throw out a series over one, but if they saw it subbed and it was boring they might not have thought to check the dub.

The majority of people who watches BGC2040 are hispanics-americans, brazilians and americans. This means everyone watched it with dubs and did not bother with the subs.

>cancelled.

Was it?

This is why reboots are a mistake

This.

Same here.

>2040 was actually funded in part by ADV

That would explain a lot of things if true. It seems that ADV were willing to fund a possible sequel, but I can't find any info that they were directly involved in the original animation.

Ok, I've done some research now, and it does seem like ADV did actually partially fund the 2040 series proper, and were basically responsible for the last two episodes, which were never produced on the original run.

I had no idea. I know the last two didn’t originally air but didn’t know that ADV saved it.

In other regions they aired all the episodes.

Sailor Moon isn't enough for me dammit

Why?

>Watch Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040.
Yes. THIS.

If I had 5 seconds to name my favorite anime, I'd say Bubblegum Crisis (original one too, but especially Tokyo 2040).

Not Evangelion, Ghost In the Shell, FMA 2003, Bleach, Lain, Boogiepop Phantom, Spice and Wolf, Shingeki no Kyojin, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, Hokuto no Ken, Suzumiya Haruhi, .hack//SIGN, Shinsekai Yori, Macross, etc... no.

I would say Bubblegum Crisis.

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Based and cyberpunkpilled.

>So should I watch it in US dub?
No, Japanese.

Priss' voice is amazing. Same seiyuu as Carrera for example.
Nene's great, too.

>Tokyo 2040 was out at the height of Korn with Follow the Leader.
IIRC, it was before that. Never really heard Korn, but BGC 2040's OST is one the best ever.

Any recommended subs?

>Netflix adaptation with a diversity cast and a tranny. Capitalist white male as big bad and all the girls will be lesbians (including the tranny)
Go what the original Bubblegum Crisis (1987 I think), it's already pretty much that.

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THORA's are good.

Does the 2040 series have BD?

Yes they have it.

>So they had the US market on sight since the very beginning for this anime, right?
I don't think the Japanese ever had anyone in mind as a "target" but Japan like 99.8% of the time.
And that's the "industry", the actual artists are another story.

Korn is too fucking based even still today.

Nice.

Based.

Boomer.