How come most anime has shitty animation...

How come most anime has shitty animation? I mean you'd think in a visual medium the industry would prioritize animation quality over story even.

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Money, time, manpower.

Because most anime is TV animation and they have strict deadlines and much lower budgets than OVAs and movies. OVAs and movies have higher budgets and less stricter deadlines. Though even movies can look not so good just because the people making them figure it's not worth the effort. And I think most mediums by now have figured out the most efficient way to cut corners while still making money which also lowers quality across the board.

I don't have a punchline.

like this guy said the more time and manpower they use is equivalent to the amount of money they are spending on the show.
redline took 7(I think?) years in total and almost put Madhouse out of business.

Western games started to prioritize graphics and "realism" over literally anything.
Well, I don't need to say anything more.
In short, you're completely wrong.
Ps art quality >>>>>>>>>>>> animation. Anytime.

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>bringing up video games when they have nothing to do with this thread
retard

>waifu fags compose the most feedback to the industry

>How come most anime has shitty animation? I mean you'd think in a visual medium the industry would prioritize animation quality over story even.

geeeeeeeeeeeeeee

he's been spamming all night, don't have any idea why.

Studios are less willing to take risks.

Animation doesn't matter if the art can still set a tone or help with themes

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But most anime nowadays also just have generic art that's more based around whats popular than how it helps establish the theme. Not to mention retards out here are still calling ping pong "ugly"

You could make the same argument as to why TV shows like BBC have drastically less special effects compared to Hollywood movies. Budget is the constraining factor. Talent is a factor as well but not as much.

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It's also that character designs are just lifted from the shitty LNs the show is adapted from which are designs that are entirely unfit for animation. Those types of character designs also become fashionable as a result, so even when we do have the rare anime original show they often still have the overdesigned LN look to them that makes the characters impossible to animate.

Aesthetics change, more news at 11

I expect anime industry will go for more Movies now since they get more profits without risking BD sales.

Budget and time constraints. It's not hard to understand.

If you can't find the analogy, guess who's the ratard here.

Fuck off brainlet.
I'll always take detailed character design over few additional frames with changes nothing.
I'm sick when I see shitty characters with eyes filled with 1 color, no shading and literally 0 details. This is nothing but unwatchable trash.

Literally kill yourself

Shounenfags are really retarded.
I'm so glad that most of Japanese studios are more "man of culture" and they know that detailed character design is literally essential.

>Shounenfags
Jesus christ, talk about projecting. No one is talking about shonenshit.

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What's with all the Haibane Renmei recently?

because people watch it for the waifus now

Not him but how much animation do really need for moeshit then?

Mass production.

>I'll always take detailed character design over few additional frames
Do you not understand what the point of ANIMATION is? Why don't you just read manga instead?

These are probably some of the best answers that will be on this thread.

However there are also a few other good reasons including the fact that most of the employees are overworked. Have to sleep at the office to make sure they're on schedule. Unpaid overtime because the Japanese are suckers for social pressure leading to the bare minimum getting done. And the fact that most anime nowadays are just glorified commercials so the bare minimum money and effort are put into them in the first place.

>in a visual medium the industry would prioritize animation quality over story
Most anime are adaptations from other sources such as manga and light novels and needless to say, those prioritize story over animation.

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No one said anything about using still images, retard. And this "argument" is so fucking stupid anyway. Do you have voice acting in manga you fucking brainlet? Do you have music in manga?
And who said that animation must prioritize frames per second over art quality?
8 frames per second with detailed characters > 15 frames per second with garbage stockman-like objects that resembles characters.
Of course I would gladly take detailed character design with fluid animation, but if there's no money for it, I'd rather watch something with beautiful art than ugly shit animated with high FPS.

I think that Japan understand it and thay don't care about faggots on western image boards who don't understand why detailed design is way more important than having few additional frames.

Unless it's trigger trash of course. They prefer to make their series ugly. And their newest movie is not only terrible looking because of character design, but it's almost full 3DCG.

Bc they are animes and not cartoon which have special graphics n all...animes are about plot

Anime is dominated by television serials, which is probably the worst format for any kind of film be it animated or live action. Anime will never recover from the shitshow it is unless television serials are massively overtaken by features and OVAs.

Lol, there's no analogy, retard.

Why is it always the mental-boomers who are stuck in the past, the people who praise BADHOUSE, who space their posts like complete morons? You care about art? Be useful to the industry and buy art books. Be the change you want to see.

This. It's why Kyoani works are pretty much the only decently produced stuff nowadays.

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>lack of talent
>studios are forced to produce cheap anime every season, that usually are only 12 episodes long due to low budget
>switch from analog to digital
>shading got worse due to lack of time
>oversaturation is a common practice nowadays
>minimize cost to maximize profit

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nothing wrong with short series, in fact youd think thatd be better because you can put more care into each ep.
the problem is the timelines they work on - they rush pretty much everything and also do everything as cheaply as possible. most animators are paid fuckall and still worked to the bone

There was a huge thread a month ago, it probably got a lot of people to watch it.

you could make an action series with great animation via a huge budget and top-level talent
or you could just make a generic moe show for 3x less, which is a much safer way to make money off merchandise because of waifufags buying skimpy figures for 100s of dollars

Nips are notorious for their use of limited animation and cutting corners. They mastered this art to a T.

I really fucking despise when people people like you pretend that, that cancer isn't actually ugly. I get that it looks unrefined for the sake of expression but don't fucking pretend it looks good.

>but most anime nowadays also just have generic art that's more based around whats popular
>generic
Nice shit opinion, just know that not everyone agrees. I like anime for their similarities with each other as opposed to what makes them unique. That's what i find interesting, people naturally dislike change. They have good aesthetics. You sound like the kind of retard who hates cola flavoured drinks for being "generic".

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>nothing wrong with short series
No, there isn't, but it absolutely limits the type of story you can tell. Many series suffer from pacing a 1-cour like a 2-cour and then hurriedly wrapping it up at the end. Even when a 1-cour is paced correctly, it still means the director has to work within different constraints.

If more studios had the actual CHOICE to make a 2-cour, we'd see more diversity in style coming back.

source on that image? looks like a cool show

Akira's budget was 11 million dollar, that's why it looks so good

yeah well obviously you have to choose a length that suitable for the story.
for example, FMA:B was pretty long, but that worked really well and it had very little wasted time. same for ATLA (although not an anime).
whereas Ping Pong is only 11 episodes but similarly is paced very well and manages to tell a great story in that time.

>limited animation
That's a good thing and is done as a stylistic choice, most of the time. Limited animation can, a lot of the time, be more expensive to produce than fluid/full animation.

>Limited animation can, a lot of the time, be more expensive to produce than fluid/full animation.
lol

Limited animation isn't a barrier to good quality animation though. There are great animators who build their style upon working with limited animation.

>I mean you'd think in a visual medium the industry would prioritize animation quality over story even.
There is far far more to a visual medium than just animation quality. Visual direction is much more important in my opinion. Sound is also something an anime gains from a manga or novel adaptation. And yes, the way that a story is adapted to a visual medium matters too. There are techniques you can only use here that the director should take note of, instead of infodumping all the time. The people who only care about animation quality are like the graphicsfags of video games.

But that's a fact you subhuman. It's entirely dependent on the sequence.

>I really fucking despise when people people like you pretend that, that cancer isn't actually ugly. I get that it looks unrefined for the sake of expression but don't fucking pretend it looks good.
it's kinda sad that many anime fans have the aesthetic sensibilities of a 4 year old
>happy bright colors = good
>round, unthreatening shapes = good
>good direction / shot composition = unimportant
>creativity = bad
>evoking any emotions other than "cute" or "funny" = VERY bad

the fact that you have no capacity to enjoy art doesn't mean that other people are "only pretending", that is also something a 4 year old would say

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This.

heh I get it

I'm tired of retarded casuals asking this vapid question constantly. Rub two brain cells together, go look how much something like Redline cost vs. how much it made, then realize you answered your own fucking question.

>it's kinda sad that many anime fans have the aesthetic sensibilities of a 4 year old
No. I just think that aesthetically ping pong looks like shit. That's just my taste. Can't ad wouldn't want to change that. Doesn't matter if see the "generic" anime art style a million times, i'll still think it looks better this shit.

>happy bright colors = good
>round, unthreatening shapes = good
>good direction / shot composition = unimportant
>creativity = bad
>evoking any emotions other than "cute" or "funny" = VERY bad
Fuck off with this strawman, yuasanigger.