Sailor Moon

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I like the hazy pink aesthetic

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Original.

don't forget to read some lewd sailor moon doujins between episodes to get in the right mood

it's good, but you should watch the superior mahou shoujo classic instead

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Ojamajo Doremi

>Do I watch the original or Crystal?
I have no idea what you DO watch. But if you are asking what you SHOULD watch ... well, that's obvious: The original 90s anime version.

>the superior mahou shoujo classic
There are exactly two classics in the "Battle Mahou Shoujo" genre: Sailor Moon and Cutie Honey. And the latter has some weaknesses when it comes to the technical details - it is, after all, from the 70s. So I wouldn't quite call it superior to Sailor Moon.
I love both of them though.

>Ojamajo Doremi
Arguably not a classic. And definitely not superior.

There are more classics than just Sailor Moon and Cutie Honey.

>in the name of Mercury, I will punish you

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Sailor moon is a lot better than you're giving it credit for. It is a shoujo anime, but it's a very well made shoujo anime with a great cast and really good visual design. The plot is, in all honesty a vehicle for the character interactions and action scenes but it's not terrible.

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Not in that genre.

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Its the most stylish anime ever made

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>hurr mahou shoujo only has two classic series
How does it feel to be literally retarded?

Post more embarrassing pictures of Ami

Name another classic in the Battle Mahou Shoujo category.
I do admit that we might have different standards of what constitutes a classic: I suggest using that term only for something that reached a certain popularity that exceeded genre fans, gained international fame and, most imporatantly, changed or (re)defined the genre. If you use a different terminology, that's okay. After all, I said that Doremi ARGUABLY is not a classic.

Sailor Moon lives on inside BlackDog

you did not deserve that elite get.

>BlackDog
His doujinshi look like shit. One of the worst artstyles in the business. And he shows utter disregard for the characters' original body proportions or aethetic individuality.

DON'T LISTEN TO THE STUPID FUCKING NEWFAGS.
LISTEN TO ME.
When Sailor Moon came out, the Western anime community didn't like it. Well, except for the girls that is. Your memory of it as a shoujo anime that your sisters forced you to watch is very correct.
That said, we need to acknowledge that all of us who watch anime are pretty much walking trash with no redeeming characteristics and inherently shit taste.
It was the same in 1970.
The same in 1980.
The same in 1990.
The same in 2000, 2010, today.
Sailor moon and the whole "kawaii" obsession in manga and anime really threw a lot of people for a loop in the 90's. Kawaii had always been a part of the industry, but never to the extent that it was pushed starting in the 90's. Kawaii has only grown since then. (And now we have a weird spread of saccharine kawaii, stuff in the middle, and edgy teenage shit, and the very rare actually interesting or well-executed project).
So a lot of the hate we see for kawaii is nothing but the remnants of arguments stemming from the 90's, when people rightfully lamented its advent. Kawaii has produced good media, and much more bad media. This is the world we live in.
All that said, Sailor Moon is good. It isn't great -- it was made for children. But hey, so was Spongebob, and Spongebob is hilarious.
Sailor Moon is worth your time. When you get bored of it, stop watching. When you want to give it another spin, resume where you left off.

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>y much walking trash with no redeeming characteri
What a strange copypasta. The whole "kawaii" thing really doesn't apply to this series though. You should have put more effort in modifying it.

>what is Sakura
>what is Madoka

>roughly 200 episodes of cute high school girls with massive, sparkling eyes transforming into even cuter versions of themselves to fight crime
>they wear sailor outfits the whole time, and this component is so important to the series that it's in the fucking name
>not kawaii
you're a moron.

It’s okay but you should honestly read the manga too since it was the first true deconstruction of the Magical Girl genre and was the prototype for Madoka.

it has a different ending, the 90s Sailor Moon anime is better than the manga imo

>hurr durr we're all trash
>anime sucks xd
>it's good, but not great
get some self-esteem. own up to the shit you like and stop using shitty weasel words in case someone disagrees

Neither fits the definition of "classic" I gave. Sakura fit the mold of its time. And Madoka, while adding to the genre, was hardly successful beyond its genre.

I'm a big fan of Kuroinu Juu's myself

>you're a moron.
And you're a troll.
No, nothing in the Sailor Moon anime nor manga was about being kawaii. Sailor themed school uniforms themselves are not kawaii. It didn't have any more "massive sparkling eyes" than other anime of the time. And, no, they don't transform into "cuter" versions.

>was the first true deconstruction
Sorry, but you should look up what "deconstruction" means.

>And Madoka, while adding to the genre, was hardly successful beyond its genre
Really? Madoka was insanely popular and attracted people who were into grimdark stuff and weren't fans of Mahou Shoujo to begin with. Is there something I'm missing?

they make me erect though, how do you explain that?

i can't exactly watch it all too much without thinking of sailor mercury as projared, its scaring me.
can any of you s/a/ilor scouts help me out?

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Stop following youtuber drama shit, that's a start

Alright

>Madoka was insanely popular and attracted people who were into grimdark stuff and weren't fans of Mahou Shoujo to begin with.
Madoka attracted those people by basically being a genre mix. It had graphic horror elements to the point where you can call it a genre mix.
Yes, if you only count it as Mahou Shoujo, it did achieve success across genre borders. But if you see it as a mesh of Mahou Shoujo and horror, then it didn't speak to a wider audience.
Compare it with Sailor Moon, which attracted a highly varied audience of general viewers all over the globe without specifically pandering to a certain group.
Again, my definitions may differ from yours, but that's why I wouldn't call Madoka a classic.

Here's some eye bleach

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thank you.

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No, I think that makes some sense to me. But by that logic I guess you'd say Evangelion is not a classic of the mecha genre because its attraction was from other elements. I think it'd be ridiculous to say Eva isn't a classic mecha anime though because mecha is its premier genre. And similarly to something like Madoka, it didn't get popular because it borrowed elements from other things that had an established audience, it just gained attraction by having uncommon designs and a different presentation; the core ideas of both shows are not that radical when looking at what the genres had accomplished before.

when I was watching sailor moon last year I couldn't stop focusing on that one frame where they forgot to color in the bottom half of her glove. They fixed it eventually but by that point she was like a third of a season away from getting the new attack anyway so it almost felt like wasted effort

>But by that logic I guess you'd say Evangelion is not a classic of the mecha genre because its attraction was from other elements
Well, I do see a following for Evangelion outside any genre bounds. Like for Sailor Moon, it got incredibly popular with a wider audience that was not only mecha-fans, but not fans of just one or two specific genres.
I do admit that that definition is somewhat fluid and that I'm maybe being too harsh on Madoka. I just don't think it got that "general audience" hooked enough.

I'm watching it now and I'm enjoying it a lot. I'm glad to see a Sailor Moon thread on Yea Forums cause I feel like it doesn't get mentioned that much. It feels like everyone has to have one magical girl show they call their favorite, it's like a rule, but it's usually Sakura or Heartcatch Precure.

Old Sailor Moon anime is awesome. Then again, you can watch a few chapters and see if it is your thing or not

I get the love for Heartcatch but personally I prefer Smile. Or maybe Kirakira.

Either way Sailor Moon kinda has an unfair advantage over any given Precure season. You've got four times as much material to get invested into the characters and the world

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>You've got four times as much material to get invested into the characters and the world
>unfair advantage
How is that unfair? Nothing's stopping Pretty Cure from expand one of its narratives to 200 episodes.

More episodes isn't always a good thing, though. Most shows over around 50 episodes tend to have low points which could easily push one's enjoyment of the show below what a shorter more focused show could do.

based usenetposter

>I started watching anime in 2006
We watch Japanese cartoons largely marketed to culturally repressed Japanese teenagers and prepubescents, my friend. Denial isn't self-esteem; it's the opposite.
I like anime, and fully accept that it's almost entirely complete garbage.
usenet is dead forever

Fuck off, troll. Who do you think you're fooling?

You've done nothing but spout inane nonsense. Who's the real troll? Oh well, consider this my last response. Savor it.

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As expected, the woke "I understand anime is trash but I like it" response. You oldfags are basically insuffedable proto-ironic weebs. You're jaded as fuck since no one gave a shit about anime when you were watching it but now everyone's into it. You've chosen to adopt the shitty "I only like things ironically" garbage from the newfags as part of your "how do you do fellow kids" persona. Wake up, faggot. It's okay to unironically like stuff that isn't arthouse kino or some 80s boomer sci-fi masterpiece; literally every kid grew up on nerd shit and MCU is the hottest movie franchise at the moment.

>You oldfags are basically insuffedable proto-ironic weebs.
Come on, that shitposter is definitely not old, nor has he been into anime for more than a few years. He talks like a teen, uses copypasta and thinks it's cool to be selfdepreciating.

I watched some episodes recently... I watched the first 3 episodes, and then I skipped to episodes 8 and 10 where Sailor Mercury and Sailor Mars are introduced.

I had fun watching these.Reading about the other episodes it seems that the anime was quite repetitive, so I don't think I lost much.

One thing that is fun about watching Sailor Moon is that you easily notice how influential it is in other mahou shoujo that came later.

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Honestly traditional hand drawn anime looks odd to me

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animation wise sailor moon was rough as fuck most the time
but god damn did it make up the shitty anmation with kino backgrounds and scenery

I love it when characters are given different outfits and don't just wear the same in school/out of school clothes every episode.

I don't ironically like anime. I actually like it. I also understand that the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of it is really terrible. As you and don't seem to understand, there is a massive difference between blind acceptance and informed acceptance.
To put it in perspective for you: most of the "arthouse kino and 80's boomer sci-fi masterpieces" are corny shit as well. There are... maybe five(?) stories that have ever been told in the course of human history. We retell them over, and over, and over again. Some retellings are good, some are bad, and Tolkein is the only person to ever retell them perfectly.
Your opinions lack nuance and depth, and I honestly expect nothing less on what Yea Forums has become. I'm not saying this to be mean, but to spark some critical thinking into your brains.
Once your rage has subsided, hopefully you'll think back on this, and come away a bit more happy knowing the truth -- that is, media reflects people (because people only buy things they can connect with), we all pretty much suck for one reason or another, and so most media accordingly sucks as well.
Accept that, and few anime/manga will ever upset you ever again. To bring this full circle, consider my original point. When it aired, most Westerners hated Sailor Moon. Now it's beloved by a lot of those same people. Why? Because we came to understand its place in the world, just like you need to understand what you're watching if you want to get past the petty bullshit you guys are trying to start on this shadow of a former forum.

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>so I don't think I lost much.
You did. The so called "filler" is what gives it its character. Well, your choice, I guess. You'll be skipping over some of the best episodes. And it'll be your own damn fault.

>There are... maybe five(?) stories that have ever been told in the course of human history.
Where did you learn that piece of wisdom, genius? You know what kind of people spout that kind of nonsense? Those who truly have never read more than "five(?) stories".

>Tolkein is the only person to ever retell them perfectly.
Tolkien? Really? You really don't want anyone to take you seriously, do you?

>When it aired, most Westerners hated Sailor Moon.
Bullshit. Those who didn't watch it hated it. Those of us who watched it loved it. I know, I was there. You most definitely weren't.

I've said all I need to say. Good day, user.

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I guess if you like shoujo or the magical girl genre you'd enjoy it. I watched a few episodes with my sister sometime when I was young and I didn't really enjoy it. I would also just watch it just cause it was in between Ultraman and Digimon. Characters were cute and had great interactions but action scenes we're boring af.

Oh boy, a pretentious Tolkein Yea Forums fag. I'm not even mad, lol. Pathetic response. Now instead of "all anime sucks" it's "all media sucks". Who gives a shit if people enjoy it and are willing to talk about it and pay for it. Knowing that there's a few basic structures for a story to unfold doesn't diminish your enjoyment of a story, just like knowing there's thousands of tropes around doesn't mean if I see one it's shit.

Well, if you were into Digimon, I get why you didn't like Sailor Moon.

What's that supposed to mean

Just that they're very different kinds of stories speaking to very different kinds of people. I, personally, never quite got Digimon's charm.
Both are coming-of-age stories. But Digimon has that escapist adventure element that you usually find in children's books or books about finding one's place in society. (Not itself a bad thing, mind you. Oliver Twist has it, Peter Pan has it. Damn, even Lord of the Flies is an example for that.)
Sailor Moon, on the other hand, has more elements of a traditional Bildungsroman. It's very much about individuals developing a sense of their own personality and their responsibility for their own decisions. It's highly confrontational.

You're definitely right about digimon,I really like adventure shows like that. But in sailor Moon case I just don't like magical girl stuff

Which sailor has the nicest body?

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As a production it is excellent, art, direction, music and sometimes animation were great. Arguably Toei long runners at its best. (although that might be cheating since it was broken up in various seasons). Also the use of stock footage to pad out the episode is infamous.

Whether you like a silly monster of the week show where most characters are fairly useless most of the time is up to you

Depends on your definition of "nice" and on which of them you like best. Minako for me.

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>most characters are fairly useless most of the time
Not really. They all play their parts as personalities more than as fighters though. Remember that Sailor Moon is not a pure action show but mainly character driven.

It took me a month to watch all 200 episodes and the movies, and for the most part I had a blast. There was one season in particular that was relatively difficult to sit through for me personally (don't want to negatively influence any prior opinions so I'll refrain from naming which one) but overall Sailor Moon makes for a pretty great watch. Like said though, your personal preferences and predispositions may play a role in your enjoyability of it. I had watched Sailor Moon after a summer of watching mostly other magical girl shows.

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Agreed. On a similar note, I also like how the girls are not only in different classes from each other but different schools as well. You usually don't get that in these types of shows.

>There was one season in particular that was relatively difficult to sit through for me personally
R or SuperS. Probably SuperS. Don't ask me how I know.

>Probably SuperS. Don't ask me how I know.
Ding ding ding. "Usagi and Chibiusa Power Hour" sucked ass.

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Over the years, I've learnt to appreciate it for what it does instead of concentrating on what it doesn't do. I still think it's a break from the regular themes and dynamics, but it does introduce new ones that are quite interesting as well. I'd say it gains on rewatches, as you'll go into it knowing what to expect.

I wasn't a fan of all the weird pegasus stuff or how the actual ending bled over into Sailor Stars but other than that I really enjoyed SuperS. Had some fun villains and brought back some focus onto the side characters like Naru and Motoki. I can understand the hate if chibiusa bugs the shit out of you but I never had a problem with her personally.

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>Sailor Moon, on the other hand, has more elements of a traditional Bildungsroman. It's very much about individuals developing a sense of their own personality and their responsibility for their own decisions
That describes Digimon pretty well too though

>"Westerners" to mean "USAmericans"
Epic, simply epic.

>That describes Digimon pretty well too though
As far as I know Digimon, it's less about the individual as an ethical and intellectually independent actor and more about the individual growing into its role in a group and society as a whole.
While, of course, all "coming of age" stories contain elements of both, there seems to be a very different focal point for Digimon and Sailor Moon respectively. To me, the functional element of the Bildungroman-type stories is a perspective of deontology and ethics - in other words, it's about "duty" and "character", first and foremost. It's about forming one's own (consistent) personality in concordance with individually set (and freely accepted) values and rules. You find that in many protagonist-driven stories, even aside from the typical Bildungsroman genre. Goethe's Faust, naturally (debatable whether it counts as a Bildungsroman in a wider sense). Hamlet. Macbeth. Holden Caulfield in The Catcher in the Rye. Luke Skywalker in Star Wars. (Yes, pretty much the whole Hero's Journey template falls into this category as well.)

The, let's call it, "Escapist Adventure" is about finding one's place in society and in the world. It's about recognizing not the self as an actor onto oneself, but about realizing the "other" (the outer world, Sartre's "être") and how one relates to it. It's very much about acceptance and cooperation as a group. Like I said earlier, Peter Pan is a great example, where the journey is one to acceptance of necessities and laws of nature. Same for Alice in Wonderland.

And, yes, as I alluded to earlier, in most cases both aspects are present. Some works of literature strike a nearly perfect balance. Huckleberry Finn comes to mind.

Didn't Toei limit the number of keyframes in each episode? Or was it Gainax?

No, watch Doremi or CCS instead.

Is this worth watching after having watch all of precure? Cause originally Precure was just Sailor Moon's concept just with more psychical fighting.

>Cause originally Precure was just Sailor Moon's concept just with more psychical fighting.
I don't know where you got this info from, but I my impression is that that's not the slightest bit true. Pretty Cure might be derivative in many aspects (as most Mahou Shoujo that came after Sailor Moon), but it still is a different thing altogether.